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00:16 < Mike1> n8 all
00:17 < Satg> C U people, good nights to all, bye
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01:48 < Be-El> so...und wech
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04:26 < tsa> n8
04:26 < tsa> cu all
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08:06 < blindcoder> moin
08:16 < esden> moin
08:19 < esden> blindcoder: on advogato there are tons of real _gurus_ ...
08:19 < esden> at least it seems so
08:19 < esden> now I found a lead developer of OpenSSH ...
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08:26 < esden> hmm ... and another interesting person ... a gcc developer
08:26 < esden> hi [anders] 
08:28 < blindcoder> hi esden
08:28 < blindcoder> hi [anders]
08:28 < blindcoder> esden: maybe we should leave there then :)
08:30 < blindcoder> hmm...
08:30 < blindcoder> I need to hack together a _really_ big Regex
08:32 < esden> blindcoder: hmm ... I feel so ... "unwuerdig" there
08:32 < blindcoder> yes.... somewhat
08:32 < blindcoder> but the upside is that people read your diarys and contact you about them
08:33 < esden> but I think I have an idea how to fix linux-utils ... it seems to be a .conf problem once more ... >_<
08:33 < esden> blindcoder: yes ... that is really funny ... the story with fefe yesterday was really funny
08:33 < esden> blindcoder: did you have something simmilar ?
08:34 < blindcoder> someone contacted me about my Apache2 problem, but that didn't really help
08:34 < esden> ohh interesting
08:34 < esden> how had he the contact address ?
08:35 < esden> .oO(i should be in a lecture at the moment)
08:35 < esden> hmm ... I think I go now to a lecture >_<
08:35 * -> esden has much better things to do .. but one can not change that ... >_<
08:35 < esden> cu l8er
08:37 < blindcoder> esden: it's an advogato
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09:22 < owl> hi
09:24 < blindcoder> moit owl
09:24 < owl> hi blindcoder
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09:31 < owl> hi [anders]
09:32 < [anders]> lo owl
09:32 < [anders]> lo esden
09:32 < [anders]> lo blindcoder
09:32 < [anders]> bloomin server messages to change the hostname of the irc server...
09:37 < owl> fscking reality. fscking work. fscking everything. damn.
09:38 < [anders]> heh
09:38 * owl listens to rammstein and hopes her brain will be blown by this stuff
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10:09 < esden> re hi all
10:09 < owl> hi esden
10:09 < esden> hi owl 
10:11 < blindcoder> re esden
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10:17 < esden> owl should do something with her irc client ... she is going and coming every hour
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10:17 < owl> re
10:17 < blindcoder> in and out...
10:18 < esden> owl: do something this in out in out in out ... game ...
10:18 < owl> forgot to plugin the power supply...
10:18 < esden> urgh
10:18 < esden> go on irc over aszlig net or so ... that will maintain your connection ... ;-)
10:18 < esden> and you then have scrollback
10:19 < owl> what for?
10:19 < esden> blindcoder: what was your regex about ?
10:20 < blindcoder> esden: takeing apart the Details about other clionts that have a given file
10:20 < esden> owl: because thing going and coming is going on nerves ... one wants wo write something to you ... and "puff" you are not here ...
10:20 < esden> blindcoder: phpesel ?
10:20 < owl> bad luck
10:21 < esden> yes your bed luck ... 
10:21 < esden> s/bed/bad/ ;-)
10:22 < owl> why? irssi and cursor up will help
10:23 < esden> not really ... 
10:23 < esden> i think you do not understand ...
10:24 < owl> or don't want to understand. or i'm just too silly or in mr. dunkel's words "you're a NULL"
10:24 * owl screams "i'm a NULL and stupid" YEHAW!!!
10:25 < esden> *headshake*
10:28 < owl> *hrmpf*
10:33 < blindcoder> esden: yes
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10:52 < aszlig> rehi
10:53 < aszlig> lcall problem fixed, urgh..
11:02 < esden> hi aszlig 
11:02 < esden> you are alive ?
11:04 < aszlig> yes
11:04 < aszlig> :)
11:04 * aszlig revived ;)
11:05 < esden> i see
11:05 < blindcoder> hmm
11:06 < blindcoder> I think I finally have a solution for all the mldonkey segfaults
11:07 < blindcoder> it uses optimized assemblercode and checks which to use in configure
11:07 < esden> ROFL: http://www.kernel.dk/shutthefuckup.jpg
11:07 < blindcoder> but there's also a C file for the same purpose... I now just forced to use the C File no matter what
11:08 < esden> hmm .. blindcoder you will see if it will work ...
11:09 < blindcoder> pango told me it  could work (the one patching and patching and patching mldonkey :)
11:09 < aszlig> esden: how about a nice cup of...?
11:09 < esden> aszlig: yes ... ;-)
11:10 < aszlig> :)
11:10 < aszlig> STFU!
11:10 < aszlig> *gg*
11:11 < blindcoder> Star Trek Fleet University
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11:16 < blindcoder> esden: I hawe Slayers - The Motion Picture finished :)
11:25 < esden> good
11:25 * -> esden read documentation about minit
11:25 < esden> very interesting
11:25 < esden> I will have to test it on my laptop ;-)
11:26 < esden> it may improve the boot speet significantly ;-)
11:26 < esden> i mean speed
11:26 * -> esden hungry -> hunting
11:26 < blindcoder> hehe
11:27 * blindcoder now one of three people on this planet running phpEselGUI 0.5.0
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11:27 < owl> re
11:27 < blindcoder> re owly
11:29 < owl> oh god. windows suckz...
11:29 < blindcoder> right :)
11:30 < owl> "we will reboot the fileserver again at ... to delete files used by win"
11:30 < owl> *ouch*
11:34 < blindcoder> owl: that happens with UNIX, too
11:35 < blindcoder> if you 'rm -f' a file that is still opened by a process the inode won't be released until the process finishes
11:35 < blindcoder> If it makes a boo-boo and doesn't properly close the fd, then the inode might stay open until reboot
11:35 < owl> yeah... but do you have some files which are not opened anymore and not used by the sysem itself...?
11:35 < blindcoder> We had such a case on poseidon lately
11:35 < owl> *under unix
11:36 < blindcoder> hmm... I'm not sure I understand what youmean...
11:36 < esden> re hi all
11:37 < owl> re esden
11:38 * -> esden has to buy a new harddisk ... what is the smallest disk I can get at the moment ?
11:40 < blindcoder> esden: Inside: 20
11:40 < blindcoder> GB
11:41 < blindcoder> *urgs*
11:41 < blindcoder> Outlook sucks...
11:42 < blindcoder> You can't change Mailbox-privileges recursively but you have to change each item in the mailbox (Inbox, Sent Items, To Do, Calender, etc.) one at a time
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11:50 < esden> blindcoder: urgh ... do you know how much it costs ?
11:51 < blindcoder> no
11:51 < blindcoder> strange...
11:53 < blindcoder> `gcc iconv_test.c -o test` fails
11:53 < blindcoder> `gcc iconv_test.c -o test -liconv` works
11:54 < blindcoder> ld.so.1: ./test: fatal: libiconv.so.2: open failed: No such file or directory
11:55 < esden> blindcoder: is libiconv.so.2 file somewhere on the harddisk ?
11:56 < esden> or libiconv.so* ?
11:59 < blindcoder>  nope
11:59 < blindcoder> find / -name *iconv*so* | wc
11:59 < blindcoder> 0
11:59 < esden> so install the libconv 
12:00 < blindcoder> it's in standard C library...
12:00 < esden> where is the problem ?
12:00 < esden> when it is missing then something has been done wrong
12:00 < esden> get the library from somewhere
12:00 < blindcoder> Standard C Library Functions                            iconv(3C)
12:01 < esden> check why it is not there instead trying to compile it without it
12:01 < esden> because that will not work
12:01 < blindcoder> esden... it... is.. libc...
12:01 < esden> and ... ???
12:01 < esden> then libc has been installed inpropperly
12:01 < blindcoder> there is no libiconf.so... not here and not anywhere else
12:02 < blindcoder> esden: so you say ROCK install glibc wrong?
12:02 < blindcoder> as well as debian, SuSE, Red Hat, Mandrake...
12:02 < esden> so why does apach want it
12:02 < esden> have you checked them all .. i do not think so
12:03 < blindcoder> because configure for no apparent reason attaches -liconv and for no apparont reason it works
12:03 < esden> but that is not the point
12:03 < esden> what is in your iconv_test.c file ?
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14:08 * tcr hails all
14:09 < blindcoder> hi tcr
14:10 < tcr> hallo
14:10 < blindcoder> hehe I have to keep that log somewhere...
14:10 < tcr> th: i'm about taking a look at install-cdrom in a few minutes :)
14:11 < blindcoder> A discussion of how to promote ROCK Linux in #mldonkey :)
14:12 < th> tcr: ok
14:18 < th> 14:18:12 Highlights:
14:18 < th> 14:18:12    1 ^th:  -regexp
14:18 < th> 14:18:12    2 teha
14:18 < th> 14:18:12    3 th_
14:18 < th> oups
14:18 < th> wcer
14:19 < tcr> hrm
14:22 < tcr> th: hmmm
14:22 < snyke> moo
14:22 < tcr> th: i don't like a use of something like 'scriptbase' that has to be found out in the beginning of a script
14:23 < blindcoder> NOTSCHLACHTUNG @snyke
14:23 < th> tcr: alternative?
14:23 < th> tcr: adapting path?
14:23 < snyke> hm
14:23 < snyke> da saugts dich rein ins vakuum
14:23 < snyke> ich hab nämlich hunger das goa nimma besser geht
14:25 < tcr> th: well, if i see correctly, this script is creating a ramdisk for the cdrom?
14:25 < th> tcr: yes. it will do more of course
14:26 < tcr> hmm the name is somewhat confusing
14:26 < tcr> (of the subdist)
14:26 < th> install-cdrom?
14:26 < th> why that?
14:27 < tcr> well what's the concrete difference to install-disks?
14:28 < th> tcr: the subdist will create an bootable iso-image
14:29 < tcr> hmm, i thought scripts/Create-CD is doing that??
14:35 < th> for now
14:35 < th> i thought i could do better
14:35 < tcr> hm
14:35 < th> and a new subdist won't hurt or break anything
14:36 < th> and if it all works we have a sexy system for bootable CDs
14:36 < tcr> what's wrong with Create-CD (have never looked at it)
14:36 < th> neither did i ;)
14:37 < th> but we can do better in adding support for selecting which packages should go to cdrom
14:37 < tcr> that's indeed a dilemma
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14:37 < th> giving ability to do special "live" (as in "live cd system") things
14:38 < rolla> re
14:38 < th> tcr: and if all fails it has been a good case study on subdistributions for me ;)
14:40 < tcr> hmm.
14:40 < th> but i'm quite optimistic
14:40 < th> the fdemu already boots
14:40 < th> (but still no initrd of course)
14:41 < tcr> i just want to prevent reinventing the wheel ;)
14:41 < th> tcr: Create-CD script is just not flexible and modular enough for me.
14:41 < th> tcr: i'd do this anyways
14:43 < tcr> build-install-cdrom.sh will come?
14:46 < th> if build-$subdistname.sh is the sh-script to be called. yes.
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14:58 < holyolli> moin
14:59 < blindcoder> moin holyolli
15:09 < holyolli> hi blindcoder
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15:13 < owl> re
15:15 < aszlig> wb owl
15:15 < aszlig> *gg*
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15:15 < toberkel> hi all
15:16 < aszlig> sorry, but had a small error in the selinux policy, that caused, that my syslog was flooded with "Permission denied" and "Operation not permitted" *gg*
15:17 < blindcoder> re owl aszlig
15:19 < blindcoder> aszlig: did you try to log in with an insecure keyboard? :)
15:19 < toberkel> hi aszlig
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15:22 < aszlig> hrm?
15:23 < toberkel> wie gehts?
15:25 * aszlig is in a _very_ good mood ;)
15:26 < rolla> warum?
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15:35 < aszlig> because my server was down for 22 hours
15:35 < aszlig> :/
15:35 < aszlig> brb :Q
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15:55 < Mike1> greetings @ all.
15:55 < rolla> re Mike2
15:55 < rolla> re Mike3
15:55 < Mike1> lol
15:56 < Mike1> rolla its was fscking xchat's autoconect
15:58 < Mike1> ping esden
16:04 < esden> re hi all
16:04 < esden> hi Mike1 
16:04 < Mike1> hi esden!
16:04 < Mike1> :))
16:04 < esden> Mike1: pong ;-)
16:05 < Mike1> esden: i wanted you to look at this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/virgule/
16:05 < esden> ahh ... ice ... I love ice
16:05 < esden> Mike1: yes I know it ... why ?
16:05 < Mike1> 0_o
16:06 < Mike1> esden: ah its sort of like advogato.org
16:06 < esden> ehhm .. no ... sorry ... I mixed it up with something different ...
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16:07 < esden> or ... yes ... 
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16:07 < Mike1> though its is easier to mainatin
16:07 < esden> ehhm
16:07 * -> esden confused
16:07 < esden> erm
16:07 < esden> wait a moment
16:07 < Mike1> esden: raph from advogato once wanted to make the whole base in more xml and less c coding
16:07 < Mike1> thats pretty much what it is
16:08 < esden> aaaha
16:08 < esden> but ... : http://www.advogato.org/code.html
16:08 < esden> advogato is mod_virgule ...
16:08 < esden> or do I miss something ?
16:09 < Mike1> yes you are missing something
16:09 < Mike1> vigule is sort off like an improved advogato
16:09 < esden> Mike1: look at the link I have posted ... and grep for mod_virgule ...
16:10 < Mike1> created on xml based "language"
16:10 < Mike1> esden yes i have seen the link
16:10 < esden> aha ... ok ...
16:11 < Mike1> mom
16:11 * -> esden informing himself
16:15 < esden> no demo site is working
16:16 < esden> I want to see the differences ... and not only read about it ... 
16:18 < Mike1> esden: i have something for you mom
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16:49 < dreamind> hi
16:49 < dreamind> huebi: hi :)
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16:53 * blindcoder now going home
16:54 < Mike1> yo blindcoder
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16:59 < owl> <-- off
16:59 < owl> cu later.
16:59 < Mike1> cu owly
16:59 < rolla> who knows alot about bluetooth?
17:00 < tcr> rolla: hmm, afaik there is an irc channel on this net about them
17:01 < rolla> :)
17:01 < rolla> ic
17:05 < tcr> found it?
17:10 < rolla> nope but i found what I needed online :)
17:11 < tcr> :P
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17:27 < tcr> th: beep
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18:14 < sandey> !find mettalica
18:15 < sandey> @find mettalica
18:15 < sandey> !find metallica
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18:17 < esden> lool
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18:18 < tcr> th ping
18:33 < tcr> away for now
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19:05 < th> tcr: pong?
19:07 < tcr> re
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19:08 < tcr> th: what should export losetup=`type -p losetup` be for?
19:08 < th> tcr: finding full path off binary
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19:09 < tcr> th: yeah, but for what?
19:09 < th> tcr: at the moment it is useless cause i don't do anything with path
19:10 < th> tcr: atm it is useless and would be removed in cleanup
19:11 < th> tcr: but imagine path adaption to find a binary and store the full path
19:11 < tcr> I just can't see any sense in this. type -p is itself searching in PATH, and just using losetup would also search in PATH
19:12 < th> tcr: intended for subscript not sharing the environment and path
19:12 < th> tcr: sorry i'm still away.
19:13 < th> tcr: 'll check back later... send me email please about further opinions
19:13 < tcr> ok
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19:52 < holyolli> moin
19:52 < Mike1> hi holyolli
19:53 < holyolli> hola Mike1! como estas?
19:53 < Mike1> holyolli: muy bien gracias y tu?
19:53 < holyolli> Mike1: perfecto
19:53 < holyolli> ;)
19:53 < Mike1> :)
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20:04 < owl> re
20:04 < Mike1> re owl
20:05 < holyolli> hi owl
20:05 < owl> hi holyolli
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20:21 < dreamind> Hi
20:21 < owl> hi dreamind
20:35 < dreamind> hi owl
20:35 < dreamind> is this chan german or english?
20:35 < dreamind> and is huebi there?
20:35 < Mike1> dreamind: _english_
20:35 < dreamind> Mike1: ok :)
20:36 < dreamind> so do you know if huebi is there?
20:36 < huebi> Moin
20:36 < Mike1> is here now
20:36 < dreamind> moin huebi :)
20:36 < owl> hi huebi
20:36 < Mike1> Greetings Master huebi
20:37 < tcr> huebi: moin!
20:37 < huebi> Moin Mike1 dreamind owl :-)))
20:37 < huebi> Moin tcr
20:37 * Mike1 back to code ...
20:38 * huebi reading cvs changelog
20:39 < huebi> fscking WLAN/A-DSL router. It droke down after only 2 days
20:40 < tcr> huebi: could you please so kind and tag the cvs?
20:40 < tcr> huebi: i actually want to update three packages, but these shouldn't get in pre4.
20:40 < dreamind> hm, time to start an rocklinux chroot :)
20:43 < huebi> th: PING...
20:48 < huebi> tcr: What packages do you want to update
20:48 < huebi> ?
20:49 < huebi> hmm. I have to check the sources in the office again.
20:50 < huebi> tcr: I tag it tomorrow morning.
20:50 < tcr> mom
20:50 < huebi> if not in a few hours
20:50 < huebi> tcr: Yes?
20:51 < tcr> lyx, libpng
20:51 < tcr> and..
20:51 < tcr> libxml2
20:54 < huebi> tcr: Did you test your changes? Do they compile and work fine?
20:55 < tcr> both libs has been sucessfully tested, but i had no chance to test lyx
20:56 < tcr> #define tested (download && compiled)
20:57 < huebi> Ok, then I make a test build over night and tomorrow I tag the tree
20:57 < tcr> i haven't comitted them so far, should i?
20:57 < huebi> if something goes wrong I'll fix it
20:57 < huebi> tcr: yes please, then I can test your updates.
20:58 < tcr> ok, will commit in about half an hour (have to plug in the network cable again, .. cleaned my room today ;))
20:58 < huebi> Ok, do it please
21:03 < esden> re hi all
21:03 < huebi> Moin esden
21:03 < esden> huebi: no I have not sent it yet
21:03 < owl> hi esden
21:03 < esden> ;-)
21:03 < esden> hi owl 
21:03 < huebi> esden: Yes, you wanted to do it tomorrow...
21:04 < esden> yes ... but I thought that I will menage to send it yesterday ...
21:04 < huebi> esden: Ah, ok
21:15 < rolla> Mike1: you around?
21:15 < Mike1> yes
21:15 < rolla> I got my 5th Alpha in the trunk of my car :)
21:16 < Mike1> ARRRGGGG alpha alpha alpha!!
21:16 < rolla> :p
21:17 < rolla> it is slow one AS500 266mhz
21:17 < Mike1> not funny >_<
21:17 < huebi> rolla <- loves high performance computing clusters also at home
21:17 < rolla> yeah if I got some more nicks I could cluster them for fun
21:17 < Mike1> rolla make a cluster with those 5 babys and tell if you still think its slow
21:18 < Mike1> looks like we are all thinking about clusters
21:18 < Mike1> :)
21:18 < rolla> yeah I am still waiting for Rock alpha to come around
21:18 < rolla> I don't want to cluster with redhat :p
21:19 < holyolli> rolla: i'm just compiling.. ;)
21:19 < holyolli> huebi: i'll send you the cd on montag - then it will be ready
21:19 < huebi> holyolli: Greaat.
21:19 < holyolli> rolla: if you want to, i can also send you a copy
21:20 < huebi> holyolli: I can upload it to the stud
21:20 < rolla> a alpha ISO
21:20 < rolla> can it really be?
21:20 < holyolli> rolla: i have actually an alpha iso - but an older one
21:20 < holyolli> if you want to, i can also upload it
21:20 < rolla> yes!!!
21:21 < holyolli> .oO(why didn't he ask...?) ;-)
21:21 < rolla> I have been
21:21 < rolla> I was told it was broken :(
21:21 < holyolli> where should i put it?
21:21 < esden> rolla: you have to many alphas ... 
21:21 < huebi> ftp://stud.fbi.fh-darmstadt.de/pub/linux/rocklinux/iso-images
21:22 < rolla> I do not
21:22 < holyolli> huebi: how can i upload there?
21:23 * rolla dances around :) 
21:23 < huebi> holyolli: have you a download location for me?
21:23 < holyolli> huebi: not at the moment...
21:23 < holyolli> mompl../me is just confing...
21:24 * huebi just called the server room - nobody there :-(
21:24 < Mike1> rolla esden is right you have many alphas
21:24 < Mike1> you must share some!
21:25 < holyolli> huebi: you manage the ftp mirror?
21:26 < rolla> Mike1: costs too much to ship ;)
21:26 < Mike1> esden will pay
21:26 < rolla> ha ha
21:26 < Mike1> :)
21:26 < esden> Mike1: /me no money
21:27 < rolla> Mike1: you just need to move to the US
21:27 < Mike1> rolla i am in the process >_<
21:27 < rolla> :)
21:27 < tcr> rolla: you just need to move out of the US ;P
21:27 < rolla> then I will save a alpha for you
21:28 < rolla> tcr: I find that unlikly at the moment and even then I would have to leave most of the computers behind
21:28 < tcr> rolla is TEH savior ;))
21:29 < tcr> huebi: i'm committing now
21:29 < huebi> tcr: great
21:30 < huebi> holyolli: yes, I do so
21:32 < rolla> 30.07K/s  ETA 5:37:00
21:32 < huebi> I have to drive about 15 mins to the FH, then I normaly upload from CD. Thats the fastes way
21:32 < rolla> that is going to take awhile
21:39 < owl> <-- leaving this cruel world for today
21:39 < owl> gn8
21:39 < holyolli> n8 owl
21:41 < rolla> nacht owl
21:42 < huebi> nacht owl
21:42 * Mike1 hugs owl
21:42 < Mike1> nacht owl
21:43 * Mike1 couldnt resist :)
21:44 < esden> nacht owl
21:44 * -> esden hugs owl too ;-)
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21:47 < tsa> hi
21:48 < holyolli> huhu tsa
21:48 < tsa> huhu
21:48 < huebi> Moin tsa
21:49 < tsa> hi huebi
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21:52 < holyolli> hi bl
21:52 < Be-El> hi ppl
21:52 < Be-El> dem heiligen olli !
21:52 < holyolli> dem bello!
21:52 < tsa> weia..
21:52 < holyolli> tsa: mh?
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21:53 < Be-El> i'm curious...what happened to the CVS tree today ? all packages were updated
21:53 < tsa> Be-El: profiling patch looks good so far, in stage 5 now without any problems..
21:53 < Be-El> tsa: yeah....and i got a fix for our python problem.....not the one with import _sre, but the general one
21:53 < tsa> Be-El: -lcrypt?
21:54 < Be-El> tsa: nope
21:54 < tsa> regarding CVS - the devel tree became stable, therefore we're only using cvs sources from now on to make things a little more "broken" ;)
21:54 < Be-El> the libraries python depend on results off additional modules which are statically linked into libpython.a....
21:55 < Be-El> tsa: so the easy solution is to tell python to make these modules dynamic ones ;-)
21:55 < tsa> Be-El: looks like a good idea.. *awaiting patch*
21:55 < Be-El> patch will take a while.... i have to fire up kmail ;-)
21:57 < tsa> hehe..ok
21:57 < tsa> use mutt, btw ;)
21:57 < tsa> == 21:57:07 =[5]=> Building base/glibc [2.3.1 1.7-snapshot].
21:57 < tsa> ...
21:58 < tsa> we'll see what happens now
21:58 < esden> ROFL ... the glibc implementation of strnlen sux !
21:58 < Mike1> hehe
22:03 < Be-El> tsa: have a look at the src.glibc* directory while build.....
22:04 < Be-El> tsa: without disabling profiling, each .c file is translated into three seperate .o files
22:04 < Be-El> tsa: so disabling profiling save a rough 1/3 of building time ;-)
22:04 < tsa> nice.
22:15 < Be-El> tsa: btw....never build vegastrike from source....i've never seen a ld process consuming over 180MB of ram ;-)
22:15 < tsa> grr..still waiting for glibc
22:15 * holyolli too!
22:15 < tsa> Be-El: hehe..ok
22:15 < tsa> Be-El: which one do you use - cvs head or last release?
22:15 < Be-El> cvs
22:15 < tsa> ack
22:16 < Be-El> and some files are still broken....e.g. compiling the server
22:18 < tsa> hm..i'm not really interested in the server part ;)
22:19 < tsa> should learn, anyway..
22:19 < holyolli> tsa: when is your exam?
22:19 * Be-El waves with a special book
22:19 < Be-El> tsa: and don't forget the cds ;-)
22:20 < tsa> Be-El: hehe
22:20 < tsa> ./scripts/Build-Pkg cdrdao
22:20 < Be-El> tsa: and there's a nice chapter in that book about solaris and doorfs
22:20 < tsa> aah...good!
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22:24 < esden> I have not thought that a strlen algorithm can be soo sweet ;-)
22:24 < tsa> == 01/10/03 22:24:24 =[9]=> Finished building package cdrdao.
22:24 * tsa starts copying CDs
22:28 < esden> can somebody of you tell me what the c operator &~ means ?
22:29 < rolla> :)
22:29 < Be-El> esden: some kind of AND NOT ?
22:29 < Be-El> or AND NEG
22:30 < rolla> bit wise 1 compliment
22:31 < esden> uhum
22:31 < rolla> make a 0 a 1 and a 1 a 0
22:31 * rolla loves his K&R C book
22:31 < huebi> rolla: *g*
22:31 < tcr> esden: say you want set off bit 2 and 3 of a variable called foo, then A&=~12 iswhat you want to do :)
22:31 < tcr> foo &= ~12
22:32 < tcr> sorry
22:32 < esden> so 01010101 &~ 10101010 = 11111111
22:32 < esden> ?
22:32 < rolla> looks like it
22:32 < tcr> |~
22:33 < tcr> ah no, you are right
22:33 < tcr> >_< fucking late already
22:33 < rolla> :)
22:33 < esden> tcr: no problem :-)
22:33 < rolla> esden: does that help?
22:33 < esden> I hope so ...
22:33 < esden> but it is really funny that they use such stuff in strlen function 
22:34 < rolla> :)
22:34 < esden> thank you guys 
22:34 < rolla> np
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22:44 < Be-El> re
22:44 < holyolli> re bl...
22:45 < tsa> ;)#
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23:04 < holyolli> cya
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23:04 < Mike1> cu holy
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23:38 < Mike1> http://www.linux.edu
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23:58 < huebi> cu tomorrow
23:59 < huebi> n8
23:59 < Be-El> cu huebi
23:59 < huebi> cu Be-El
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