--- Log opened Sat Jan 11 00:00:45 2003
--- Day changed Sat Jan 11 2003
00:10 < tsa> cd pub; more beer
00:10 < tsa> cu all.
00:10 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9E111FD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("*plopp*")
00:10 < Be-El> strace tsa
00:10 < Be-El> cu
00:11 -!- Be-El [be-el@p5082B59E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting")
00:14 -!- castille [~lfs@pool-151-197-185-147.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #rocklinux
00:15 -!- castille [~lfs@pool-151-197-185-147.phil.east.verizon.net] has left #rocklinux ()
00:20 < esden> yes I crunched it !!
00:34 < snyke> life crunched me
00:39 < esden> I finally understand the inner workings of strlen !
00:39 < esden> that is really beautifull
00:41 < esden> but only of the dietlibc implementation
00:41 < esden> not the glibc one 
00:41 < esden> the glibc one is a yucky bloatbomb
01:31 -!- airann [~airann@airann-pt.tunnel.tserv1.fmt.ipv6.he.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
01:41 -!- owl [~owl@aszlig.net] has quit (Ping timeout: 14400 seconds)
02:05 -!- chrisAFK is now known as chriZzzz
05:43 < rolla__> re
05:43 -!- rolla__ is now known as rolla_rock
05:44 < rolla_rock> anyone alivea?
06:10 < rolla_rock> grrr
06:47 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Der Sinn des Lebens ist die Suche nach eben jenem.")
06:59 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090B78C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
07:13 -!- kasc [~kasc@p509096B2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
09:17 < esden> good morning
09:22 < blindcoder> moin
09:22 < blindcoder> esden: when do you want to go to Fischer?
09:33 < esden> hmm ... dunno
09:33 < esden> not now ;-)
09:36 < blindcoder> sure
09:36 < blindcoder> I meant: befor 17:00 or after 17:00
09:37 * -> esden checking
09:40 < esden> hmm ... 
09:40 < esden> where is a difference if I go before 17 or after ?
09:40 < esden> uwe said that it is starting at 11 and going till 19
09:41 < esden> blindcoder: do you know how much does a 20GB disk kost at Inside ?
09:41 < blindcoder> It starts at 11 with some events and at 17 the "Tanzparty" starts
09:41 < blindcoder> esden: nope.
09:42 < esden> ahh ok
09:42 < esden> uwe will call me *hopefully* when he is going there ... 
09:42 < esden> and that will also be the time I will leave ;-)
09:42 < esden> that is what we decided yesterday ..
09:43 < esden> he said that he will go there as soon as possible
09:43 < esden> so ...
09:43 < esden> i think I will go there ... at 16 
09:43 < blindcoder> hmm... okay
09:43 < esden> but not stay till the end
09:43 < blindcoder> I'll try to be ready by then.
09:43 < blindcoder> Why not?
09:43 < esden> because I have really a lot to do >_<
09:44 < esden> but we will see
09:44 < esden> ;-)
09:44 < blindcoder> hmm... too bad
09:44 < esden> that is why I had no time for cinema yesterday
09:45 < esden> how was the film ?
09:45 < esden> anyways ...
09:46 < blindcoder> hmm... a bit disappointing
09:46 < blindcoder> thu Intro and the final fight could have been a bit more...
09:47 < esden> I have heard a critic
09:47 < esden> and it was really bad
09:47 < esden> "lot of logical foults"
09:47 < esden> you see dragons very seldom
09:47 < blindcoder> esden: you might have mixed that up with the latest Bond-Movie
09:47 < esden> and so on
09:48 < esden> no ... I mean "Herrschaft des feuers"
09:48 < blindcoder> I htink yousee them about half of the movie, though mostly not in great detail
09:48 < esden> that was what I heard
09:48 < esden> that is not my opinion
09:49 < blindcoder> then go on and make yourself one :)
09:49 < esden> hmm ... with whom ?
09:49 < esden> :-/
09:50 < blindcoder> no idea
09:51 < esden> but you say that the Intro and the fight could be more ... what ?
09:52 < blindcoder> just more. Both were quite a bit short
09:53 < esden> lol ... ok
09:54 < blindcoder> okay, I'm now watching Slayers - The Motion Picture :)
09:55 < blindcoder> see you
09:56 < esden> have fun
10:17 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813DAE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
10:18 < tcr> hail
10:24 < esden> hi tcr 
10:26 < tcr> moin
10:39 < esden> puhh
10:39 < esden> now is my alpha back in one piece
10:40 < tcr> betty?
10:42 < esden> no natalie
10:43 < esden> ok ... now I should leave to the postoffice for sending away the cheetah disk to huebi
10:44 < esden> I hope they have boxes for such fragile stuff
10:44 < tcr> cu
10:44 < esden> cu
10:46 < tcr> brb
10:46 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813DAE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos")
10:47 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D6BB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
11:00 -!- ringo30 [ringo78@xs3.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux
11:01 < ringo30> hi all ! How do install the packages with the install program what is a good doc ?
11:02 < tcr> 1.5 or 1.7?
11:02 < tcr> 1.5 respectively 1.6
11:02 < ringo30> 1.6 pre 3
11:03 < tcr> are you already in the installation shell?
11:04 < ringo30> yep and made a symlink from /mnt/rockia32-i686-1.6.0pre3 to /trg
11:05 < ringo30> sri /src i mean
11:05 < ringo30> mounted ext2 part on /dst
11:06 < tcr> you intend to use one partition only for you system ???
11:06 < ringo30> yep.
11:06 < ringo30> 6 gig
11:07 < tcr> hmm.. you should split it up, i think
11:07 < ringo30> bounderies from ext2 ?
11:08 < tcr> nah, /var, /tmp, /home and /usr/local  should normally be donated an own partition
11:10 < tcr> (well if you use tmpfs, the own partition of /tmp is redundant)
11:11 < ringo30> ok I'll make a couple of parts but why cant the intsall program find the packages ? must is be /src/rockia32-i686-1.6.0pre3
11:11 < tcr> yap
11:12 < tcr> or you have even to pass the path to the rockia32-i686-1.6.0pre3/info dir
11:13 < tcr> many moons has rised and sinked since I did a installation ;)
11:13 < tcr> have even
11:16 < ringo30> install program gives an error with busybox unrecognised option --use-compress-program=bzip2 ... Thats weard.
11:16 < ringo30> thats what the install program returns ..
11:16 < tcr> when does it return that?
11:17 < ringo30> when i try to install the selected programs with Install.
11:18 < tcr> tell what youve done so far (ie. what you've typed in)
11:18 < ringo30> Install program says it comes from ar
11:19 < ringo30> mounted /trg /src/**pre3 ; cd /mnt/sbin ; ./Install ; select * ; install *
11:20 < tcr> dont you have to pass a pass to Install?
11:20 < tcr> a path
11:23 < ringo30> didnt think so ... ;-(
11:23 < tcr> i'm not suer
11:26 < tcr> brb
11:26 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D6BB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos")
11:28 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D8B2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
11:33 < ringo30> Install does : install_bin /src/ rockia32-i686-1.6.0pre3 /trg
11:34 < tcr> info <pkg> works?
11:36 < tcr> rolla has had big problems with busybox sometime ago, it seems there are still some problems :/
11:36 < tcr> i'm currently building busybox to test it
11:37 < ringo30> yep ...
11:44 < ringo30> found da trouble ... used the tar program from the cd PATH=/mnt/bin:$PATH that works ... pfff time for coffee
11:48 < ringo30> that was fun ;-).
11:48 < ringo30> thanks tcr !
11:49 < tcr> hmm
11:49 < tcr> will bother you later to dix this permanently
11:49 < tcr> now taking a shower
11:52 < ringo30> good idea had to do that yesterday (cat doesn't mind likes it).
12:05 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p5080291E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux
12:05 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p5080291E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Client Quit)
12:13 < ringo30> where can I find source from install_bin ?
12:27 < esden> puhh
12:27 < esden> ok the disk is on it's way
12:28 < esden> now somebody can send me a new one so I can continue the alpha port ;-) 
12:28 < esden> or even a faster alpha ;-)
12:28 < esden> or a cluster that is also ok 
12:37 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D8B2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos")
12:38 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D618.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
12:39 < tcr> ringo30: base-config/install-bin/{install.c,menu.[ch]}
12:45 < ringo30> Do you want some report mailed with the Install setup procedure kludges ?
12:45 < ringo30> tcr ?
12:46 < tcr> you asked where the source of the install shell are placed :)
12:49 < tcr> ringo30: how did you come to the idea to reset PATH ?
12:53 -!- chriZzzz is now known as chrisime
12:57 < ringo30> just he hunge ... vy little bit unix expirience and little bit logical thinking ... I saw busybox was returning the error and the cmd line opts didnot support the params so let bash find /mnt/bin first before /bin.
12:58 < tcr> what's in /mnt/bin at all? ;)
13:09 < blindcoder> esden: ping
13:13 < ringo30> tcr tar (plain no busybox) /mnt = my_cdrom
13:17 < esden> puhh ... a very long talk with huebi 
13:18 < esden> blindcoder: pong
13:20 < blindcoder> esden: I think about going to bitz now
13:23 -!- owl [~owl@aszlig.net] has joined #rocklinux
13:23 < owl> good morning
13:23 < blindcoder> moin owl
13:24 < owl> hi blindcoder
13:32 < esden> blindcoder: I can not ... sorry ...
13:32 < esden> not yet
13:32 < esden> but in 1-2 hours
13:32 < blindcoder> esden: when could you?
13:32 < blindcoder> oh.. okay, then I think I'll go ahead :)
13:32 < esden> ok ... do it
13:32 < blindcoder> just have to burn a CD
13:32 < esden> I will follow you
13:32 < esden> in some time
13:33 < blindcoder> good boy :)
13:33 < esden> we see each other online
13:33 < esden> ;-)
13:33 < blindcoder> sure
13:33 < blindcoder> esden: what will you wear now for Fischer?
13:34 < esden> puhh ... 
13:34 < esden> I do not know >_<
13:34 < blindcoder> like we said or just-as-usual?
13:34 < esden> :-(
13:34 < esden> hmm ...
13:35 < esden> just as usual I go to fisher
13:35 < esden> but not in "sakko" ;-)
13:35 < blindcoder> okay
13:35 < esden> or how it is spelled ;-)
13:35 < tcr> you wanna go fishing with a sakko XD??
13:35 < blindcoder> so I will take my stuff with me
13:35 < esden> tcr: yes girlfishing ;-)
13:36 < esden> blindcoder: yo that is the best idea
13:36 < tcr> XD!
13:36 < tcr> going to lotr2 in some minutes, it''ll bes the second time i watch it
13:37 < esden> tcr: have fun watching it ;-)
13:37 < owl> tcr: watching it on morning? aeh?
13:37 < esden> I have only seen a part of it
13:37 < esden> on 19c3
13:37 * -> esden had not the time for stuff like this there
13:37 < tcr> owl: nah, the second time generally
13:37 < owl> hi esden, btw
13:38 < tcr> esden: you are a untr00 geek then >_<
13:38 < esden> hi owl, btw
13:38 < esden> tcr: :P
13:38 < tcr> it's just like missing a date with Linus himself!
13:39 < blindcoder> tcr: I'd call him and postpone it
13:39 < tcr> btw. 16. Jan Star Trek, Nemesis will come out :) that's also a MUST to watch
13:39 < esden> hmm ... I was with Linus in kindergarden ... so I do not see anything special in a date with him 
13:39 < esden> ;-)
13:40 < tcr> hope there will be a premiere here ...!
13:40 < blindcoder> tcr: sure. Will you wear your Uniform and carry your Phaser-Rifle?
13:40 < esden> I will be with blindcoder and some others in Star Trek Nemesis
13:41 < tcr> i went as a dwarf to both lotr premieres ;)
13:41 < esden> but not in a uniform
13:41 < tcr> some years ago i even had a star trek TNG uniform .. but i guess it wont suit me anymore :/
13:42 < blindcoder> tcr: Mine is a ST-9 one and the Rifle was built by a friend of  mine :)
13:44 < blindcoder> oops();
13:44 < blindcoder> Swap:        0k total,        0k used,        0k free,   150572k cached
13:46 < blindcoder> okay, I'm leavin
13:46 < blindcoder> g
13:46 < blindcoder> bye
13:46 < owl> bye blindcoder
13:52 < esden> god ... the people from iproute ... messed really everything up
13:56 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D618.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos")
13:58 -!- Hipo [~hipo@dsl-hkigw4ne4.dial.inet.fi] has joined #rocklinux
14:41 < ringo30> tcr: linux up on other comp ! fun  !
14:41 < ringo30> tcr: linux up on other comp ! fun  !
14:42 < ringo30> tcr: linux up on other comp ! fun  !
14:42 -!- ringo30 [ringo78@xs3.xs4all.nl] has quit ("leaving")
14:42 < owl> wtf was that?
14:42 -!- ringo30 [ringo78@xs3.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux
14:46 < ringo30> huebi: thanks  ! 1.6.0.pre3 working !!!!!
14:51 < blindcoder> re
14:52 < esden> re blindcoder 
14:57 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux
14:57 < blindcoder> esden: query
14:59 -!- chrisime_ [~chrisime@p50802A79.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux
15:18 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p5080291E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
15:21 < snyke> hi blindcoder
15:21 < snyke> I can see you ;)
15:22 < blindcoder> snyke: I don't really care
15:22 < blindcoder> cause I will go upstairs as soon as the nicnacs are empty
15:22 < rolla_rock> anyone seen holyolli?
15:23 < owl> rolla_rock: hi. saw him yesterday...
15:23 < rolla_rock> yeah I saw him then too :(
15:24 < snyke> blindcoder: wasn't meant so
15:24 < rolla_rock> but now I need to talk to him today
15:24 < blindcoder> snyke: no I would have gone either way
15:24 < snyke> mhm
15:25 < blindcoder> okay, relocating myself
15:26 < rolla_rock> anyone else know about milo and aboot?
15:35 < esden> blindcoder: nicnacs !!! also wanna have
15:36 < blindcoder> esden: I have a second pack
15:36 < esden> rolla_rock: what do you want to knaw about aboot/milo ?
15:37 < esden> blindcoder: good wait with it till I am @ bitz
15:37 < blindcoder> okay, I'll stay downstairs. Heating doesn't work
15:37 < blindcoder> esden: When will you be here?
15:37 < esden> blindcoder: why ... turn it on ...
15:37 < esden> blindcoder: as soon as possible
15:37 < esden> I have to take a shower first
15:38 < blindcoder> esden: I tried. Doesn't work. THEN FSCKING GO AND HAVE ONE
15:38 < blindcoder> Y=
15:38 < blindcoder> :)
15:38 < blindcoder> damn DE-Keyboard
15:39 < rolla_rock> äää
15:43 < esden> blindcoder: on it
15:43 < blindcoder> esden: good boy :)
15:46 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD958F769.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
15:47 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p508015F5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: blindcod1r!blindcoder@pD958F769.dip.t-dialin.net)))
15:47 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder
15:49 < owl> *yawn*
15:49 < owl> <-- off again. need more sleep. gn8
15:57 -!- martin_ [~martin@pD9E7B4BC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
15:57 < martin_> hello
16:06 * -> esden clean
16:06 < esden> hi martin_ 
16:09 -!- wk [~wk@M1120P028.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux
16:09 < wk> hallo!
16:09 < wk> Ist hier zufällig jemand vom Rocklinux-Team der am 19C3 anwesend war?
16:09 -!- ringo30 [ringo78@xs3.xs4all.nl] has quit ("Lost terminal")
16:15 < martin_> hi esden
16:16 < martin_> hi wk
16:16 < wk> hi martin
16:16 -!- martin_ is now known as iBook
16:18 < fake> ahoi
16:18 < fake> wk: yes
16:20 < esden> hi fake 
16:20 < esden> wk: yes
16:20 < esden> fake: are you coming with us to fischer ?
16:20 < esden> ok ... /me -> bitz
16:21 < esden> cu l8er
16:21 < fake> esden: i doubt it
16:22 < blindcoder> fake: It would have honestly surprised me if you had said yes :)
16:22 < fake> but i might give that bitz part a shot ;)
16:23 < blindcoder> he, but don't laugh when you see me :)
16:25 -!- wk [~wk@M1120P028.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("leaving")
16:25 < fake> why should I? do you have green hair?
16:29 < fake> i think i'll have breakfast now...
16:29 < fake> cya later
16:31 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-ls-5-2-dialup-203.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux
16:38 < owl> re
16:39 < zer0_o> re owl
17:13 -!- qubit_ [~qubit@137.250.82.191] has quit ("leaving")
17:15 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-ls-5-2-dialup-203.freesurf.ch] has quit ()
17:20 -!- qubit_ [~qubit@faic.Physik.uni-augsburg.de] has joined #rocklinux
18:48 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc1-stoc3-4-cust247.midd.cable.ntl.com] has quit (Remote closed the connection)
18:53 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc1-stoc3-4-cust247.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #rocklinux
19:25 < rolla_rock> grr
19:25 < rolla_rock> damn HP
19:26 < rolla_rock> no more MILO
19:31 < owl> milo?
19:33 < rolla_rock> it is for alpha's
19:33 < rolla_rock> I am stuck cause I am unable to boot the rocklinux alpha CD
19:33 < rolla_rock> it seems that they want me to use MILO over aboot
19:39 -!- chrisime_ [~chrisime@p50802A79.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ("leaving")
19:41 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p50802A79.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux
19:42 < owl> i c.
19:45 < rolla_rock> yeah i need holyolli
20:02 < rolla_rock> where is everyone?
21:37 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux
21:37 < Mike1> re all
21:37 < owl> hi Mike1, LocalHero
21:37 < LocalHero> Hi all :)
21:37 < LocalHero> owl, hi :)
21:38 < Mike1> greetings LocalHero
21:38 < Mike1> owly :)
21:38 < owl> Mike1 ;)
21:49 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@62.99.178.159] has joined #rocklinux
21:53 < LocalHero> Hmm, somebody wouldnt know how to list all installed packages in redhat8?
22:13 < rolla_rock> Mike1:
22:13 < Mike1> LocalHero: #redhat?
22:13 < Mike1> dunno if it exists. :)
22:13 < Mike1> rolla_rock: ?
22:20 < LocalHero> Mike1, well sometimes you have to use redhat :)
22:23 < Mike1> LocalHero: really? what for?
22:23 < rolla_rock> yeah I know what you mean LocalHero
22:24 < owl> Mike1: to see how bad it is...
22:24 < Mike1> rolla_rock: your case is an execption to the rule, you don't have to use it, you _must_ use it *g
22:25 < Mike1> owl: whats the point on using something when you already know is bad
22:25 < owl> i dunno.
22:25 < Mike1> owl: have you ever used it?
22:25 < Mike1> anyways LocalHero what are you using it for?
22:26 * Mike1 cross fingers and prays to not hear LocalHero say he uses redhat on the iso site ...
22:26 < owl> Mike1: yep used redhat 7.something
22:26 < LocalHero> Mike1, A server at my job is running it :(.. Now i need to get ride of some packages so that i can install them from source :)
22:26 < owl> (long time ago ;P)
22:27 < LocalHero> Mike1, Well, im proud to annonce that the iso site is running rocklinux 1.4
22:27 < Mike1> LocalHero: good
22:27 * Mike1 thanks God for that
22:27 < owl> hehe.
22:27 < Mike1> LocalHero: why not just rpm -e <package>
22:27 < owl> LocalHero: if you would something different, i guess you would have beendkilled by Mike1
22:28 < Mike1> dont forget to run 'rpm -e rpm' in the end
22:28 < Mike1> *g
22:28 < owl> what have you against rpm, Mike1? isn't it wounderful *cyn*
22:29 < Mike1> owl: i can tell i would prefer dpkg than rpm of course if i wasnt allowed to use gem-mine
22:35 < LocalHero> Hehe :)
22:35 < LocalHero> well, got to go now
22:35 < LocalHero> cya
22:35 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has quit ()
22:36 -!- Be-El [be-el@pD95254C6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
22:36 < Be-El> hi ppl
22:41 < Mike1> hi Be-El
22:44 < esden> hi all
22:45 -!- esden [weasel@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has left #rocklinux ()
22:47 < Mike1> esdy
22:47 < Mike1> :)
22:48 < esden> hi Mike1 !
22:51 -!- chrisime_ [~chrisime@p508022C2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux
23:04 < owl> hi esden
23:06 < owl> <-- sleeping
23:06 < owl> gn8. ciao
23:06 < esden> n8 owl
23:06 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p50802A79.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
23:06 < esden> owl: you were sleeping some hours ago
23:07 < esden> 5 to be correct
23:07 < Mike1> esden: her lazyness has no limits
23:08 < esden> yes I see it ;-)
23:10 -!- chrisime_ [~chrisime@p508022C2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
23:20 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p508020A5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux
23:21 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958F769.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("shutdown")
23:27 < Mike1> n8 all
23:27 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting")
23:34 -!- chrisime_ [~chrisime@p508021BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux
23:37 < snyke> ROFL
23:37 < snyke> ROFL
23:37 < snyke> ROFL
23:37 < snyke> ROFL
23:37 < snyke> <-- ChanServ has quit (ACK! SIGSEGV!)
23:37 < esden> O_o ?
23:38 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D972.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
23:39 < tcr> re
23:40 < snyke> esden: here in freenode
23:40 < snyke> services crashed
23:41 < esden> ohh
23:51 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p508020A5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
--- Log closed Sun Jan 12 00:00:03 2003