--- Log opened Wed Jan 15 00:00:19 2003
--- Day changed Wed Jan 15 2003
00:07 < Be-El> finally fftw is building....
00:15 < tsa> disabled here - semd patch to the mailing list
00:15 < tsa> ;)
00:15 < tsa> s,m,n,
00:17 < Be-El> done
00:20 < owl> <-- leaving the cruel world/reality for today
00:20 < owl> gn8
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00:44 < Minemonic> bye !
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01:05 < dennis> hi
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02:34 < rolla__> re
02:34 < rolla__> anyone here
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02:34 < dennis> hi
02:34 < rolla_rock> :)
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06:41 < blindcoder> moin
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08:20 < esden> moin
08:20 < blindcoder> moin esden
08:23 < blindcoder> esden: how did it go yesterday?
08:24 < esden> ich fahre gleich in die uni und gehe im bitz vorbei um die kasette zu verstauen
08:24 < esden> ok ... /me -> fruehstueck
08:24 < blindcoder> an guadn
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09:30 < owl> hi
09:30 < blindcoder> moin owl
09:30 < owl> hi blindcoder
09:30 < blindcoder> hi Lorini
09:30 < Lorini> hi ihr
09:30 < owl> moin Lorini
09:31 < owl> waaaaeh! spam is evil... *shivers*
09:32 < blindcoder> a quick hit on 'd' and you problem is solved :)
09:32 < owl> yeah. in mutt yes.... but not in eudora stuff
09:33 < blindcoder> hmm... then it might be 'del'
09:33 < owl> nope
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10:27 < [anders]> naaaaaaarf..
10:27 < [anders]> !
10:28 < owl> hi [anders]
10:28 < [anders]> lo owl, wie gehts?
10:28 < owl> horrible. thx. you?
10:29 < blindcoder> hi [anders]
10:38 < [anders]> lo blindcoder
10:38 < [anders]> owl: uhm.. tired, and somewhat busy with the builds at work..
10:38 < [anders]>  :)
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12:48 < owl> re
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13:00 < Be-El> hi ppl
13:30 < esden> re hi all
13:30 < esden> blindcoder: ping
13:30 < Be-El> hi esden
13:31 < esden> hi blindcoder 
13:31 < esden> argh 
13:31 < esden> Be-El: 
13:31 < esden> hi Be-El, that is what I wanted to write ...
13:32 < rolla_rock> re
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13:33 < Be-El> CC="gcc-3" /usr/bin/perl scripts/test-installation.pl sysdeps/../
13:33 < Be-El> make: *** [install] Segmentation fault (core dumped)
13:33 < Be-El> *args*
13:39 < Be-El> Configure: line 1641: 19088 Segmentation fault      (core dumped) ls `cat $tmppw
13:39 < Be-El> d/$filelist` >/dev/null 2>>$tmppwd/missing
13:39 < Be-El> *indentischbeiss*
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14:24 < blindcod1r> esden: pong
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14:27 < blindcoder> esden: I'm at home, lying in bed, headache, throat aches and back aches, too
14:27 < blindcoder> esden: I'm just waiting for my tea to get ready and will fall asleep then
14:36 < blindcoder> brb, fetching tea
14:38 < rolla> re
14:39 * blindcoder now off to bed
14:45 < rolla> :p
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14:52 < rolla> Mike1:
14:52 < Mike1> rolla
14:53 < Mike1> hi all
14:53 < Be-El> hi Mike1
14:53 < Mike1> hiya Be-El
14:54 < owl> hi Mike1
15:00 < rolla> OWL
15:00 < rolla> OwL
15:00 < rolla> lWo
15:10 < owl> hi rolla
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15:15 < Mike1> brb
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15:16 < Mike1> back :)
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15:20 * -> esden WAR FUTTERN
15:20 < Mike1> esden?
15:20 < esden> uups
15:20 < esden> capslock sucks
15:21 < Mike1> lol
15:37 * Mike1 installing 1.7 ...
15:44 < owl> hi esden
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15:57 < esden> hi owl 
15:57 < esden> argh ... how many cards should I get ...
16:31 < owl> <-- train
16:32 < owl> ciao
16:57 < Be-El> re
17:00 * rolla goes to shoot his raid array
17:03 < rolla> grrr
17:03 < rolla> I am going to throw that disk array in the river
17:05 < esden> rolla: before you throw it in the river send it to me ;-)
17:05 < rolla> yeah yeah
17:05 < rolla> it has crapped out for the second time I need to find out which disk is bad and remove it
17:05 < esden> sorry ... I know you are in bad mood now
17:06 < rolla> I am not in a bad mood but now I have to build another mail server
17:07 < esden> that means money, not ?
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17:07 < holyolli> moin
17:07 < esden> hi holyolli 
17:07 < holyolli> hi esden
17:07 < rolla> nope
17:07 < Be-El> moin holyolli
17:07 < holyolli> hi bl
17:08 < rolla> esden: I just need to setup the MX records and config sendmail on one of my other servers
17:08 < holyolli> rolla: what about your alpha?
17:09 < esden> rolla: ahh ok
17:09 < rolla> holyolli: still not rock
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17:10 < esden> rofl !!! there exists lug-owl.de !! 
17:10 < holyolli> esden: no jokes about this lug...
17:10 < holyolli> ;)
17:11 < esden> owl why have you not told us about that !
17:11 < esden> holyolli: I but the association is allowed or not ?
17:11 < holyolli> hm.
17:11 < holyolli> o.k.
17:11 < holyolli> ;)
17:11 < esden> good ;-)
17:11 < holyolli> esden: btw. did you manage to run em86 on alpha?
17:12 * -> esden is on csspc mailinglist ... and it moved to that domain ... 
17:12 < esden> holyolli: not tryed to
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17:19 < Mike1> greetings [anders]
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17:25 < dennis> hi
17:25 < Mike1> hi dennis
17:27 < dennis> ich hab hier ein nagelneues toshiba notebook... wollte grad rock drauf spielen... als "Uncompressing Linux.. OK, loading Kernel" kommt bleibt er einfach stehen. ne ahnung woran das liegen könnte?
17:28 < th> kernel fuer ne andere architecture?
17:28 < rolla> dennis: is that on a alpha?
17:28 < th> kernel kein support fuer toshiba-laptops?
17:28 < th> (im kernel)
17:28 < rolla> oh never mind I must read all of it
17:29 < dennis> hmm, is ein p4... von dem her müsste es keine probleme geben
17:29 < th> stimmt
17:30 < dennis> ich hab auch mal ne knoppix cd ausprobiert... da kommt das gleiche problem
17:30 < th> 17:28:26 < th> kernel kein support fuer toshiba-laptops?
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17:31 < dennis> doch, kernel hat support für toshiba-notebooks
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17:31 < Be-El> dennis: oder schalt mal die io-apic unterstuetzung aus
17:31 < dennis> hab ich auch schon probiert
17:31 < th> oder mal noapic als append zeile
17:31 < dennis> ja, hab ich schon...
17:31 < th> bzw. nobd als append
17:31 < dennis> auch schon
17:31 < th> hmm
17:32 < th> vga=normal?
17:32 < th> hast du serielle konsole im kernel an?
17:32 < dennis> hmm, aber dann dürfte er auch nicht die anderen msg anzeigen
17:32 < th> doch bis zum uncompressen
17:32 < dennis> vga is als standart aber normal...
17:33 < th> jo aber evtl nicht, wenn console auf seriel steht
17:33 < dennis> ich probiers mal aus...
17:33 < dennis> bis gleich
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17:33 < rolla> wow that is working my german knowledge
17:34 < th> rolla: :)
17:34 * rolla need to get his learn GERMAN cd :)
17:38 < Be-El> rolla: or install some automated translation module for your irc client ;-)
17:39 < holyolli> ..or put a babelfish in your ear ;-)
17:39 < rolla> nein I want to learn
17:39 < rolla> althought the babelfish would be great
17:39 < Mike1> export LANG=en_UK would be easier
17:39 < rolla> be able to pickup chicks all over the world :)
17:39 < rolla> Mike1: ei Mate
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17:40 < dennis> re
17:40 < esden> re dennis 
17:40 < dennis> an vga hats auch nicht gelegen
17:40 < esden> please talk english
17:40 < dennis> k
17:40 < esden> thanks
17:40 < dennis> :)
17:40 < rolla> re dennis
17:40 < Mike1> thx esden
17:41 < dennis> ok, it doesn't work... anyway
17:41 < dennis> any ideas?
17:41 < esden> de nada Mike1 ;-)
17:42 < esden> Mike1: when someone talks other language then english here please ask him to talk english ... this channel here is english only ... we decided it democratically on 19c3 ;-)
17:42 < dennis> k, i understand...
17:42 < dennis> ;)
17:43 < Mike1> i know :)
17:43 < esden> dennis: that is because of the logs that are being created and are searchable on rocklinux.org ... the irc logs is kind of documentation too 
17:43 < dennis> no problem...
17:43 < dennis> lets go on with my problem
17:43 < Mike1> *g
17:44 < esden> that is why we want everybody to talk english ... so that people that talk only that language do not get confused ;-)
17:44 < esden> dennis: describe the problem
17:44 < esden> english this time ;-)
17:45 < dennis> in front of mine is a new toshiba notebook...
17:45 < dennis> :)
17:45 < Mike1> nice :)
17:45 < dennis> i want to install rock
17:45 < dennis> then:
17:46 < holyolli> rolla: perhaps you can try ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Linux-Alpha/ - there much alpha-stuff like kernels, etc.
17:46 < dennis> "Uncompressing Linux.. OK, loading kernel"  then... stop. nothing
17:46 < holyolli> dennis: deactivated acpi?
17:46 < dennis> yeah, i already tried this
17:47 < dennis> it does not work
17:47 < holyolli> hm. o.k.
17:47 < dennis> i already tried vga=normal
17:47 < dennis> does not work, too
17:47 < rolla> holyolli: it is bacK/
17:48 < rolla> last time I was there it was a empty dir
17:48 < dennis> i think the problem is the notebook and not rock... or the kernel
17:48 < holyolli> ah
17:50 < dennis> i will welcome tips ;)
17:51 < Be-El> dennis: have a look at the linux-on-notebook web pages
17:51 < dennis> could you give me the url?
18:00 < dennis> i visited some sites... my model isn't listed or not enough information
18:05 < snyke> wuah, a dennis *shudders*
18:07 < dennis> ?
18:09 < dennis> snyke, its time for bed now... isn't? =)
18:10 < snyke> not really.
18:10 < snyke> have to work
18:10 < snyke> and learn
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18:53 < rolla> esden: great docs
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19:04 < ringo30> Hi all ! Whats wrong if /proc/pci doesnt exist though I have pci ?
19:05 < rolla> odd
19:05 < ringo30> think so 2 rolla. I get a mesg in /var/log/messages that it has assigned an irq.
19:06 < Be-El> ringo30: i got a similar problem with some old pentium mainboard
19:06 < Be-El> ringo30: the kernel wasn't able to detect the pci bus at all
19:07 < ringo30> hmm system is brand new, not state of art fujitsu siemens
19:07 < ringo30> amd 2400
19:07 < Be-El> ringo30: ok, that's odd
19:12 < kasc> ringo30: stupid (sanity) question:  have you mounted /proc
19:13 < ringo30> think so there some vatrious other stuf in it.
19:13 < kasc> is pci support compiled into your kernel?
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19:15 < ringo30> yep "spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7." and I
19:15 < ringo30>    don't think that is normal for a PCI clock generator.
19:15 < ringo30> cut and wasted ...
19:16 < kasc> so is pci support compiled into your kernel?
19:32 < ringo30> hmm yep, think else u would not get a warning about the previous  spurious  stuf.
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19:57 < owl> re
19:58 < owl> someone knows a company which is looking for a "azubi fachinformatiker anwendungsentwicklung"?
20:00 < kasc> owl: in my region or yours?
20:01 < dennis> not really
20:01 < dennis> use www.stepstone.de or sth. like that
20:01 < dennis> www.arbeitsamt.de :)
20:02 < dennis> is there a append option in lilo for lcd displays`?
20:02 < kasc> in lilo?
20:03 < owl> kasc: mine
20:04 < owl> dennis: this stuff doesn't really help
20:04 < owl> i'm at stepstone, jobpilot and so on since over one year... but...
20:05 < owl> stupid company. *ahrg*
20:05 < Mike1> owl.
20:06 < owl> hi Mike1
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20:34 < holyolli> hi tsa
20:36 < owl> hi tsa
20:58 < dennis> kasc: yes, in lilo
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21:05 < Be-El> hi ppl
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21:33 < Mike1> re
21:33 < Mike1> Damn Comunication MONOPOLY!!!!!
21:33 < Be-El> re Mike1
21:34 < rolla> re Mike1
21:35 < Mike1> ping esden
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22:34 < Be-El> does anyone use the cvs head to build rock ?
22:34 < Mike1> Be-El: i do
22:34 < tsa> currently not - cvs head from about 4-5 days ago
22:35 < tsa> (which mostly works)
22:35 < Mike1> tsa: you are not finished yet??
22:35 < Be-El> Mike1: did you experience problems with ls ? core dumps ?
22:35 < Mike1> Be-El: no
22:36 < Be-El> Mike1: hmm....can you do me a favour and chroot into the build environment and test it ?
22:36 < Mike1> Be-El: sure in a bit
22:47 < Ge0rG> how can I find out in which package a specific binary (in my case isdnctrl) is?
22:48 < Be-El> Ge0rG: fgrep isdnctrl /var/adm/flists
22:48 < Be-El> Ge0rG: and isdnctrl is part of isdn4k-utils
22:48 < Ge0rG> ah, thanks
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22:50 < Ge0rG> hm... its still 3.1pre1
22:51 < Be-El> Ge0rG: there's no new version afaik
22:51 < Ge0rG> its pretty disturbing, cause "isdnctrl status" doesn't work, "because I need kernel > 2.2.12", whereas I have 2.4.18
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23:25 < Minemonic> hello
23:25 < owl> hi Minemonic
23:35 < Mike1> n8 all
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