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--- Log opened Fri Jan 17 00:00:05 2003
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00:00 < Be-El> testing bison patch....
00:04 < Be-El> *wait*
00:05 < Be-El> patch profed to solve the problem for me [tm]
00:05 < Be-El> sending patch
00:05 < Be-El> lalalala
00:06 < tsa_> hehehe
00:09 < Be-El> i should stop preparing patches after 0 o'clock...they are definitly not the usualy patch quality
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00:20 < owl> <-- trying to sleep again
00:20 < owl> gn8
00:20 < holyolli> n8 owl
00:21 < Be-El> cu owl
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01:01 < Be-El> cu
01:02 < tsa_> n8 Be-El
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06:41 < demian> hi
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07:18 < demian> blindcoder
07:20 < blindcoder> moin demian
07:21 * blindcoder will be offline for the weekend due to a destructive badblocks-scan on his router's system harddisk and reinstallation
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07:54 < demian> cya
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08:41 < ringo30> morgen all(e)
08:44 < blindcoder> moin ringo30
09:07 < owl> hi all
09:10 < blindcoder> moin owl
09:11 < owl> hi blindcoder
09:21 < Lorini_> moin
09:21 < owl> hi Lorini_
09:21 < blindcoder> moin Lorini_
09:23 < [anders]> lo..
09:23 < [anders]> morning blindcoder, owl
09:24 < blindcoder> hi [anders]
09:24 < owl> hi [anders]
09:25 < [anders]> *yawn*
09:25 < [anders]> I have had a good 8 hours sleep and I still feel tired as heck.. what is wrong with me...
09:28 < blindcoder> [anders]: maybe you slept _too_ long
09:29 < blindcoder> but who am I to talk after almost 12 hours in bed
09:30 < [anders]> hehehe.. Well, I have been tired for the last week or so, and it has felt like I have not had enough sleep every morning I have woken up. It is almost as if my sleep keeps on getting interrupted so I never geta full nights sleep..
09:32 < blindcoder> hmm.... I kinda know how that is... dreamt of my first gf two nights ago (again >_<) and woke up about once every two hours
09:32 < blindcoder> after such a night yuo feel like someone was using you as a dancefloor
09:33 < blindcoder> and it's even worse if your throat is infected >_<
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09:35 < blindcoder> btw: didn't anyone ever think of adding PPPoE to ROCK?
09:37 < [anders]> blindcoder: I know the feeling.. I am starting to get a sore throat and a dry cough.. which is getting quite annoying now..
09:38 < blindcoder> [anders]: Hmm... better conlust a doctor... it's not nice to be hardly able to speak
09:38 < blindcoder> as I was on WednesDay andstill Thursday morning
09:38 < kasc> blindcoder: hot lemon helps as long as its still beginning ;)
09:38 < blindcoder> kasc: thanks, I'll keep that in mind for next time :)
09:39 < blindcoder> hi kasc btw :)
09:39 * [anders] is trying to drink lots of water... preferably luke-warm..
09:39 < [anders]> easier to drink it that way.. I should probably slow down on the amount of coffee I have as well.. two tripple espressos a day is getting a little much..
09:40 < blindcoder> hmm...
09:40 * blindcoder only drinking one can per work-day
09:42 < kasc> hiyas :)
09:43 < kasc> drinking a lot always helps, too ;)
09:44 * blindcoder drinking about two to three cans of tea with honey since wednesday
09:46 < kasc> what about fresh air?
09:46 < blindcoder> I open the windown once a day for 30 minutes :)
09:46 < blindcoder> THE windows, not Windows :)
09:47 < kasc> hehe
09:47 < kasc> i meant more something like going outside and stuff ;)
09:47 < blindcoder> Hmm... I could take my dog for a walk, but since I got major headaches just from standing up yesterday I didn't do it
09:49 < kasc> walking outside usually helps with headaches, unless its raining cats and dogs or other depressing weather
09:50 < blindcoder> "It's raining cats and dogs" - "How do you know?" - "I just stepped on a poodle" :)
09:50 < blindcoder> No, really: Blue Sky and sunshine
09:50 < blindcoder> If I can get myself to putting on some clothes I probably will
09:50 < kasc> hehe
09:50 < blindcoder> toke my dog out for a walk
09:51 < blindcoder> brb, need to change some mounts (/home for one thing)
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09:59 < blindcoder> rehi
10:00 < fake> hmmm..
10:00 < fake> morning
10:00 < fake> why am i missing /dev/fd ?
10:00 < fake> and /dev/fd/*, unfortunatley
10:01 < blindcoder> /dev/fd is just a symlink, isn't it?
10:02 < blindcoder> blindcoder@crazyhorse:~$ ls -l /dev/fd
10:02 < blindcoder> lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 13 Jan 16 10:52 /dev/fd -> /proc/self/fd
10:04 < fake> well, i know, but why is that symlink missing?
10:05 < blindcoder> hmm...
10:05 < fake> hm... maybe i should start devfsd ? ;)
10:05 < blindcoder> might help :)
10:06 < fake> on debian... *yuck*
10:06 < fake> but my 2nd-stage system works like a bliss...
10:06 < fake> i love mips ;)
10:06 < blindcoder> nice :)
10:06 * blindcoder will now build a K6-2 Iso and then destroy all data on his router's system disk
10:07 < fake> yeah... after strating devfsd it's there
10:07 < fake> hm
10:07 < fake> strange
10:09 < fake> blindcoder: i happily did that to my cinema yesterday
10:09 < fake> the new install stone is really cute
10:09 < fake> now anybody can install rock
10:09 < fake> its _really_ great
10:09 < blindcoder> fake: but not because of several thousand(!) bad blocks, did you?
10:09 < fake> well, yes, they were all bad, because they carried debian *g*
10:09 < blindcoder> I have >3000 bad blocks on my router's system disk
10:10 < blindcoder> and they all carried ROCK :)
10:11 < fake> ts ts ts.
10:11 < fake> how dare they... ? ;)
10:11 < blindcoder> well, it's an evil disk :)
10:12 < fake> i'm curious wether stage 2 will work now that i have /dev/fd/62...
10:12 < fake> aw
10:12 < fake> gonna fix the kernel first ;)
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10:16 < esden> hi all
10:17 < fake> hi esden!
10:17 < esden> I have all apollo data on DLT
10:17 < esden> OFYI ;-)
10:17 < fake> esden: how did you manage to kill my IRC session, but to keep the uptime?
10:17 < fake> init S ?
10:18 < esden> init 1 ... I had to shutdown everything that is changing data
10:18 < fake> ok, cool
10:18 < fake> ;)
10:18 < esden> so I have a consistent backup
10:19 < fake> than i may delete your file on navi?
10:19 < esden> yes
10:19 < fake> mkay.
10:19 < blindcoder> hi esden
10:19 < fake> *drrdrrdrrdrr*
10:19 < esden> thanks for keeping it a while
10:19 < esden> hi blindcoder
10:19 < fake> no pro... (disk space makes fake happy)
10:20 < esden> fake: you are working for disk space ?
10:20 < esden> blindcoder, fake: how are you today, anyways ?
10:21 < fake> i'm fine - cobalt reached stage 2, chroot works like a bliss
10:21 < fake> only minor devfs problems
10:21 < blindcoder> esden: better, thanks. My head stopped exponding in different ways at the same time, but my throat still isn't what it used to be
10:21 < fake> esden: maybe you could have a look at the .err of dietlibc on mips... sometime?
10:22 < esden> fake: please send it to me
10:22 < fake> it's one of the 2 pkgs that failed up to now ;)
10:22 < fake> esden: i am currently... "generating" a .err file *g*
10:22 < esden> lool
10:22 < esden> ok I look forward to it ;-)
10:23 < fake> it's real fun working on that cobalt
10:23 < fake> she is robust...
10:23 < esden> what do you mean with robust?
10:24 < fake> 10:25:15 up 10 days, 17:39, 1 user, load average: 1.22, 1.15, 0.65
10:24 < fake> never had that on SGI
10:25 < esden> was it dying so often ?
10:27 < esden> ahh ... I remember you had the serial console problem ... right ?
10:30 < blindcoder> esden: when will apollo get his new IP-Adress?
10:33 < esden> hmm ...
10:33 < fake> esden: yes. close minicom and the machine dies ;)
10:33 < fake> but that was predictable...
10:33 < esden> I think I should add it ... now ... or has someone objections against it ?
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10:34 < esden> fake: were there other problems ?
10:34 < fake> esden: if you don't mess it up, i'm fine with it ;)
10:34 < esden> kk
10:34 < fake> esden: sure.
10:34 < esden> hmm ... but now you have your sweet cobalt ;-)
10:47 < fake> esden: you .err-file is ready
10:47 < fake> gcc: pic-mips/dyn_syscalls.o: No such file or directory
10:51 < fake> esden: mail sent
10:53 < esden> fake: thanks
10:54 < fake> for giving you work? well... if you like that... ;)
10:55 < esden> ohh ... the fix is easy ... disable building dynamic dietlibc for mips ... that is all for now. I will have to take a deeper look to fix it "propperly"
10:56 < fake> kewl
10:56 < fake> how do i do that? ;)
10:57 < esden> - if [ "$arch" = arm -o "$arch" = ia32 -o "$arch" = mips ] ; then
10:57 < esden> + if [ "$arch" = arm -o "$arch" = ia32 ] ; then
10:57 < esden> in ./package/base/dietlibc/dietlibc.conf
10:57 < fake> in dietlibc.conf ?
10:57 < fake> okay
10:57 < fake> thanks
10:57 < esden> denada
10:57 < esden> I hope it works then
10:57 < fake> i'll let my kernel finish (2 hrs), then i'll try
10:58 < esden> lol, k
10:58 < fake> i'll send a bunch of mips-patches tonight
10:59 < esden> cool
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11:00 < blindcoder> re
11:01 < esden> re blindcoder
11:01 < blindcoder> hmm.. If I had thought about it a bit I could have built the Anime-Disk into my workstation whil both machines were offline >_<
11:26 < esden> fake: please inform me if the fix worked
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11:35 < Be-El> hi ppl
11:36 < owl> hi Be-El
11:40 < blindcoder> hmm... quite a lot of programs con't handle clock skews...
11:42 < Be-El> blindcoder: clock skews during building or running them ?
11:42 < blindcoder> Be-El: running
11:42 < blindcoder> tkpppoe, mldonkey, donitor are the ones that just caught my attention
11:43 < Be-El> these programs rely on timestamps
11:43 < blindcoder> but now I'm going to get myself something to eat, bbl
11:43 < blindcoder> Be-El: not timestamps I think
11:43 < blindcoder> but on a strange(correct?) implementation of sleep(); I think
11:44 < Be-El> either sleep() or they use the systemtime to synchronize actions
11:44 < blindcoder> for example: tkpppoe has a runtime-graph htat shows trafficb going through the PPP-Connection
11:44 < blindcoder> and when I do a ntpdate <server> while it is doing so, it hangs until the time that the graph was updated last is reached again
11:44 < blindcoder> (this means ~60 minutes here)
11:45 < blindcoder> oh well, could be worse I think ):
11:45 * blindcoder now off --> eating
11:45 * -> esden -> hunting
11:46 * Be-El --> mensa
12:06 < fake> first mail sent..
12:24 < Be-El> re
12:24 < fake> re.
12:27 < fake> == 01/17/03 12:27:47 =[0]=> Finished building package dietlibc.
12:27 < fake> esden: thanks
13:13 < fake> aw. i know why stage 3 makes problems.
13:13 < fake> *phew* nothing serious
13:15 * fake hiding
13:19 * fake unhiding ;P
13:19 < owl> aeh?
13:19 < Lorini> hi everybody
13:20 < owl> hi Lorini
13:20 < fake> hi Lorini !
13:54 < blindcoder> blech! what a screwed way to start the weekend
13:55 < owl> blindcoder?
13:56 < blindcoder> owl: a nice "Loveletter" frem the "Bundeswehr": "Musterung" at the 04.02.2003
13:56 < owl> shit..
13:57 < blindcoder> Well, as I look right now I'm htat they will lay me off almost instantly :D
13:57 < blindcoder> I mean, 30 kilos overweight...
14:05 < owl> dead.
14:05 < owl> <-- killed by music
14:23 < esden> finally owl is dead !!! cool !
14:25 * -> esden -> home
14:27 < Be-El> .oO ( alles jungspunde hier ;-) )
14:31 < fake> Be-El: well, i am proud of it ;)
14:31 < fake> j/k
14:36 < rolla> re
14:43 < owl> hi rolla
14:50 < owl> *ARGH* c# is horrible!
14:54 < rolla> c# is not a lang :(
14:56 < owl> c# what is it? something like sh**?
14:57 < rolla> close
14:57 < rolla> :)
14:57 < rolla> why are you messing with it owl?
14:57 < owl> hm.
14:57 < owl> cuz my fscking company wants me to do so
14:58 < owl> this is all such a sh**. i cannot tell ya how painful it is...
14:59 < owl> it compiles! i can't believe my eyes!
15:00 < rolla> :)
15:01 < rolla> yeah I have a copy of that around here somwhere
15:01 < rolla> but it won't load on my linux box
15:02 < owl> haha. you mean VS.NET?
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15:27 < rolla> yes
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15:48 < owl> uff
15:48 < blindcoder> hmL\
15:48 < blindcoder> ?
15:49 < blindcoder> owl: what do you want to tell us?
15:57 < owl> blindcoder: that was the answer to rolla's "yes"
15:58 < blindcoder> oh... what a round-trip :
15:58 < blindcoder> )
16:01 < owl> round trip? why this?
16:02 < rolla> ?
16:03 < owl> rolla: ???
16:04 < owl> <-- confused like hell today
16:05 < blindcoder> owl: no comment :)
16:07 < owl> blindcoder!
16:07 < blindcoder> owl!
16:07 < rolla> nothing Owl just causing trouble
16:08 < owl> tss...
16:08 < owl> urgs... i have hunger... and no breakfast yet... dammit
16:09 < blindcoder> hmm... I had some soup all day...
16:10 < owl> aeh? why all day?
16:20 < blindcoder> hmm... schlecht ausgedrueckt... all I had was some soup today
16:21 < blindcoder> hmm... anyone successfully running a ROCK-cempiled MySQL 4 server?
16:22 < fake> jep
16:25 < blindcoder> fake: how? it just keeps segfaulting just after I started it
16:25 < blindcoder> fake: I've now tried it on K6-2 and Pentium4
16:28 < fake> blindcoder
16:28 < fake> blindcoder: i am running it on my notebook quite fine
16:29 < fake> blindcoder: had some trouble first with some file permissions, but that was my stupidity ;)
16:29 < blindcoder> file permissions are all on mysql.mysql 644 (+x where necessary)
16:30 < blindcoder> ut it also happens when I remove all databases from /var/opt/mysql
16:30 < blindcoder> if I install a precompiled version from mysql.org then it works just fine
16:34 < fake> hum *shrugs*
16:37 < blindcoder> brb
16:38 < owl> <-- train
16:38 < owl> ciao. bbl
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16:44 < tsa> ups.
16:51 < blindcoder> re
17:12 < rolla> so has anyone fixed screen yet?
17:14 < blindcoder> rolla: is it broken _again_ ?
17:14 < rolla> allways has been
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17:15 < rolla> I try and run anything with colors and it locks up
17:15 < Be-El> rolla: what is your $TERM setting ?
17:15 < rolla> mom
17:16 < rolla> damnit fscking ircnet
17:16 < rolla> I am going to kill their servers grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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17:16 < blindcoder> rolla: I remembar that being fixed ages ago...
17:16 < rolla> what is ages ago
17:16 < blindcoder> mom, I'll search that post
17:16 < blindcoder> s/post/mail/
17:17 < rolla> screen
17:17 < Be-El> it was related to wrong $TERM settings
17:17 < rolla> \maisenhe@maisenhelder:~$ echo $TERM
17:18 < rolla> screen
17:18 < blindcoder> https://www.rocklinux.org//mailing-list/rock-linux/2002-10/297.html
17:18 < rolla> okay I try
17:18 < th> rolla: update screen
17:19 < th> termcap issue
17:19 < rolla> right after I nuke ircnet
17:19 < Be-El> rolla: what
17:19 < Be-El> rolla: what's your problem with ircnet ?
17:19 < snyke> BLINDCODER
17:19 < rolla> they restrict my connection no matter what
17:20 < blindcoder> SNYKE\
17:20 < Be-El> rolla: install identd
17:20 < snyke> your person is requested in #gametome
17:20 < rolla> it is there and running
17:20 < rolla> root 122 0.0 0.0 1872 700 ? S Jan15 0:00 /usr/sbin/inetd
17:20 < Be-El> rolla: do you got something running on port 1080 ?
17:20 < rolla> nein
17:21 < Be-El> hmm....wenn ich wuesste, was "-" vorm usernamen genau heisst...
17:21 < rolla> ?
17:21 < Be-El> --- [rolla] (-Der@134.244.181.87) : Der Affe
17:21 < Be-El> oder bist du das nicht ?
17:22 < rolla> oh
17:22 < rolla> I am not sure let me check
17:24 < rolla> blindcoder: do you know what versions I need of those files?
17:24 < blindcoder> hmm... I used the ones taht came with ROCK 1.5 by then
17:24 < rolla> okay
17:24 < blindcoder> plus a nower version of screen which is shown in the mail
17:25 < rolla> nod
17:26 < rolla> Be-El: where on earth could it be getting that - from ?
17:26 < Be-El> rolla: i don
17:26 < Be-El> rolla: i don't know....
17:26 < rolla> :(
17:27 < Be-El> rolla: afaik the "-" indicates some open proxy...but i'm not sure about it
17:27 < rolla> hmmm
17:27 < rolla> what does that mean
17:28 < blindcoder> fake: okay, mysql up and running
17:29 < blindcoder> fake: it was bdb that causes the segfault
17:31 < Be-El> rolla: <kanossa> iline ohne ident
17:32 < rolla> I know it is not that
17:32 < rolla> it is something in my irssi config
17:32 < rolla> I made a new user and they connect without +r
17:32 < Be-El> does your irssi send another username, that cannot be verified by the running identd ?
17:33 < rolla> dont' think so I changed it back to be right but it still give me a -
17:33 < rolla> what does real_name have to match?
17:34 < Be-El> well, according to freenode you don't have an identd running...or the server is not able to contact the identd
17:34 < Be-El> perhabs your router is blocking the request or does not forward them to the right host behind it
17:34 < rolla> don't use this one
17:34 < rolla> this is my server from work which is firewalled
17:34 < rolla> I am connecting from home :)
17:35 < Be-El> yes, and the firewall is blocking identd requests
17:35 < Be-El> --- [rolla] (~Der@134.244.181.87) : Der Affe
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17:35 < rolla> mom
17:35 < Be-El> that's what the ~ says
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17:37 < rolla> that is my home machine
17:38 < rolla> are you sure the ~ means my identd is down?
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17:43 < Be-El> rolla: yes, i'm sure
17:43 < rolla> hmm
17:43 < rolla> well I can connect from one user account without restriction
17:43 < rolla> so I think identd is not the problem
17:44 < rolla> is there a place I could find info?
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17:48 < tcr> moin all
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17:50 < esden> hi all
17:50 < blindcoder> hi esden
17:51 < blindcoder> hi tcr
17:51 < tcr> hi blindcoder, esden
17:51 < tcr> th: ping
17:51 * -> esden finished watching slayers ;-)
17:51 < blindcoder> esden: ggod :)
17:51 * -> esden wants the film @ blindcoder
17:51 < th> tcr: pong
17:51 < blindcoder> then you can come round and grab CCS :)
17:51 < blindcoder> eseokay, I'll write it on a CD
17:51 < esden> and the first "staffel" is really better
17:52 < blindcoder> esden: hehe :)
17:52 < blindcoder> esden: season
17:52 < esden> yes the first season
17:52 < blindcoder> root@crazyhorse:~# iso_create /home/blindcoder/Slayers_-_The_Motion_Picture.Gowenna.avi >iso
17:52 * -> esden checking email
17:52 < blindcoder> esden: okay, when you're here it will be ready :)
17:52 < tcr> th: i'm adding a patch against a security issue of VIM right now. Will send an email to the ML anyway (to notify the 1.7 team). just that you know..
17:53 < tcr> https://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=full-disclosure&m=103972417823566
17:54 < th> tcr: restricted mode issue?
17:55 < th> tcr: oh i saw it
17:55 < th> tcr: thanks
17:55 < blindcoder> vim.org and some vendors were notified on Mon, 25 Nov 2002
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17:55 < blindcoder> *ahem*
17:56 < tcr> the patch was released on someday in dec 2002
17:56 < tcr> dunno why that there was no announce
17:56 < tcr> -that
17:56 < blindcoder> hmm... okay
17:57 < esden> hehe ... wim forgot his badge on 19c3 ;-)
17:57 < esden> ok ... I go get my father
17:57 < tcr> h?
17:57 < tcr> hm?
17:57 < tcr> downloading/compiling vim now
17:57 < esden> blindcoder: I will come by later ... when I am back from a meating
17:58 < blindcoder> esden: sure. I'll have your CDs ready by then
17:58 * blindcoder now taking his pills
17:58 < esden> tcr: wim is the guy selling openbsd funware ... a good friend of at least some rocklinux developers
17:58 * -> esden -> off
17:59 < blindcoder> hmm... he's at a _meat_ing...
17:59 * blindcoder wonders how much food he will get there :)
17:59 < blindcoder> btw...
17:59 * blindcoder --> hunting
18:02 < Be-El> cu
18:02 < Be-El> time to switch to weekend mode
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18:06 < maisenhe> which is newer termcap or termlib
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18:09 < rolla> anyone?
18:11 < snyke> moo
18:12 < rolla> :p
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18:13 < rolla> Mike1:
18:13 < Mike1> greetings @ all
18:13 < tcr> moin Mike1
18:13 < tcr> sorry rolla, dunno
18:13 < rolla> :(
18:13 < rolla> oh well I have screen working now
18:14 < rolla> brb
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18:15 * rolla does a dance for joy
18:16 < Mike1> *g
18:16 < rolla> screen works
18:16 < Mike1> congratz dancing rolla
18:17 < rolla> :)
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18:24 < Mike1> hi SLACKo
18:24 < SLACKo> hi man
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18:34 < tcr> ok mail sent about the vim61 sec issue
18:41 < rolla> danke
18:47 < th> perhaps we should patch the system-wide vimrc to disable modelines
18:48 < rolla> ja
18:48 < rolla> I mean yes
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18:48 < tcr> th: the patch solved the issue
18:48 < tcr> solves
18:48 < th> ahh ok
18:49 < tcr> Problem: libcall() can be used in 'foldexpr' to call any system function.
18:49 < tcr> rename(), delete() and remote_send() can also be used in
18:49 < tcr> 'foldexpr'. These are security problems. (Georgi Guninski)
18:49 < tcr> Solution: Don't allow using libcall(), rename(), delete(), remote_send() and
18:49 < tcr> similar functions in the sandbox.
18:49 < th> ic
18:50 < th> anyhow... such modelines are evil
18:51 < tcr> but it wouldnt fit to ROCK to disable them by default, imho
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18:53 < blindcoder> /away
18:53 < blindcoder> reeeeeeeeehi
18:53 < totom> hello i installed rocklinux 1.6pre3 from an iso and now i have the problem that i am to stupid to load modules?
18:54 < tcr> hi totom :)
18:54 < totom> i made depmod and modprobe -c > /etc/modules.conf but if i try to load an module i get confusing error messages
18:54 < tcr> like?
18:54 < totom> like ne2k-pci
18:55 < tcr> confusing error message like?
18:55 < tcr> and you should run /sbin/depmod -a
18:55 < totom> the manpage of depmod means depmod -a is no more recommend
18:56 < totom> i also tried depmod -a
18:56 < totom> the message was like look in your syslog ... i am not at home and i forgot to put the message on my notebook
18:57 < tcr> uhm. that's an extremely hard case for any helping
18:58 < tcr> when do you estiamte to come home?
18:58 < totom> and in the generic case what must i do to enale modules after install? in the roklinuxguide is nothing
18:59 < totom> hmm i have no internet at home :(
18:59 < tcr> oh
18:59 < blindcoder> totom: usually `depmod -ae` and then you can load any module not having any unresolved symbols
19:00 < tcr> okay, then just tell me what exactly you had done and i'll try to give an hint
19:00 < totom> blindcoder: thnks ill try if i am at home
19:01 < totom> tcr: i ll look for the error message at home and will come back sometime
19:02 < tcr> or write to the list :)
19:02 < totom> ok
19:02 < totom> yet another question am i able to make an iso if i try to build 1.7? the guide means no
19:03 < blindcoder> ./scripts/Create-ISO -size 700 bootdisk <yourtarget> should do it
19:04 < totom> ok maybe someone can fix this in the guide
19:04 < tcr> totom: please show me where it says that it's not possible
19:05 < tcr> (dont wanna search through the whole doc)
19:05 < totom> and than one one moment ill search it
19:06 < tcr> thank you
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19:10 < totom> it is not in the guide but in the src archive rock-1.7[version]/Documentation/Build "This is not implemented yet in the 1.7 development tree..."
19:11 < totom> so i thaugt it is not working
19:11 < tcr> blindcoder: could you care about that?
19:12 < blindcoder> I'll include a patch for it in my next patch-collection
19:13 < blindcoder> it should be on the list somevhen between tonight and sunday
19:22 < blindcoder> hmm... I'm sure, cliiford will change some bits of it, but at least he has a draft to work on :)
19:57 -!- Gud [~erik@h27n2fls32o899.telia.com] has joined #rocklinux
19:59 < Gud> Hi, I am from the RIAA. I came across this website searching google for 'warez' music, and I found a log where Ge0rG repeatedly said he "has got some of their disk as mp3".
19:59 < Gud> My question is, would you /dcc it to me? :D
19:59 < Gud> "monoton is minimal"
19:59 < Ge0rG> who is Ge0rG?
19:59 < Gud> bluefire, I believe
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20:00 < martin> hello
20:00 < Gud> Ge0rG: Still have it? I've been searching for this song for ages :D
20:00 < Gud> I don't even know the name of it
20:01 < Ge0rG> I am very sorry, but the local police already was here and confiscated all my computers, mp3s and original music cds due to the beforementioned irclog.
20:02 < Gud> Stupid local policemen, we've told them numerous times to let the RIAA handle these cases. After all, we are allowed to do stuff that the local law enforcement can only dream about
20:02 < Ge0rG> Gud: if you don't know the name of the song, how do you know its called "monoton und minimal"?
20:03 < Gud> Ge0rG: Well, a guy keeps singing that in the song so heh
20:03 < owl> re
20:03 < Ge0rG> Gud: the song is from welle:erdball, and you can download a short sample from the bands homepage... https://www.i-p-v.de/welle/mp3/Welle_Erdball_-_Monoton_und_Minimal.mp3
20:04 < Gud> Ge0rG: Cheers!
20:04 < blindcoder> owl: re
20:04 < owl> hi blindcoder
20:11 < tsa> re
20:12 < tsa> need sendmail god.
20:12 < tsa> anyone?
20:12 < blindcoder> phew sendmail...
20:13 < blindcoder> managed to make it use scavenger.homeip.net as sender-domain, but that was after 6 hours of googling
20:13 < tsa> hm..
20:14 < tsa> MASQUERADE_AS(`scavenger.homeip.net')dnl
20:14 < tsa> FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope')dnl
20:14 < tsa> FEATURE(`always_add_domain')dnl
20:14 < tsa> ..should be sufficent.
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20:14 < blindcoder> yes, but that didn't mask envelope_to: <>
20:15 < blindcoder> don't ask me why
20:15 < blindcoder> that still showed crazyhorse (my workstation) and not scavenger.homeip.net (my router)
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20:16 < tcr> Gud: you come from sweden, could that be?
20:17 < Gud> tcr: Yes.
20:17 < tcr> ah, realized on the .telia.com hostmask
20:18 < tcr> wasn#t sure whether it's really belonging to sweden
20:18 < Gud> it is :D
20:18 < Gud> telia is actually quite cool.
20:18 * blindcoder going to bed.
20:18 < Gud> They host sourceforge projects ;)
20:18 < blindcoder> wish me luck to not waking up again >_<
20:19 < tcr> know one or two other swedes who are using it, i think
20:19 < tcr> besides of something with .bred*.se
20:19 < tcr> bredbond..?
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20:21 < armijn> re
20:21 < Gud> bredband :)
20:22 < Gud> probably bredbandsbolaget.se :D
20:22 < Gud> 10Mbit :)
20:22 < Gud> (AFAIK)
20:23 < tcr> yeah something like that
20:23 < tcr> you damn swedet got such isps offering high bandwiths >_<
20:24 < tcr> which doesn't seem to be that expensive
20:24 < Gud> 521MBit for around $45
20:24 < Gud> (telia)
20:27 < armijn> heh
20:27 < armijn> good to see that at least some of my work is being used
20:27 < armijn> (in the guide)
20:28 < owl> hi armijn
20:28 < armijn> hi owl
20:30 < tcr> armijn: that's just like with all genious artists: their work has got the deserved honor when they died ;)
20:31 < armijn> heheh
20:31 < armijn> I'm not dead yet
20:31 < armijn> or is quitting ROCK regarded the same?
20:31 < owl> _ yet _
20:31 < owl> ;)
20:32 < armijn> owl: eventually I will, of course
20:33 < owl> *grrrr* irda makes me crazy
20:34 < tcr> armijn: yes, you have actually been added to a "to kill" list when you quitted
20:34 < armijn> tcr: ah, good to know
20:34 * armijn not going to .de anymore
20:35 < tcr> fosdem is a good place for a coincidental accident :->
20:35 < armijn> I just checkd the mailinglist
20:35 < armijn> doesn't seem like there are many people going to FOSDEM
20:36 < tcr> dirty jobs are never done by the bosses
20:36 < armijn> why do the 19c3 pictures look so much like the 18c3 pictures?
20:38 < tcr> havent been there, so dunno
20:39 < armijn> well, I haven't been to 19c3 either...
20:39 < tcr> but i guess they were just copied to pretending a normal meeting but in fact your death was planned ..
20:40 < armijn> ah...
20:40 < armijn> so, who are they gonna send in?
20:40 < armijn> owl, perhaps?
20:40 < owl> armijn: no
20:40 < armijn> posing as a geekgirl...
20:40 < tcr> yeah she could chatter you to death XD
20:40 < owl> no no no
20:40 < owl> *ARGH*
20:40 < armijn> tcr: oh ooh...that doesn't sound too good...
20:41 < armijn> talking about nonsense, like women do ;-)
20:41 < tcr> about?
20:41 < armijn> completely driving you nuts
20:41 < tcr> women talk nonsense ;)
20:41 < armijn> so you just kill yourself in the end...
20:41 < armijn> and then it's just suicide!
20:42 < armijn> aah! so that's your dirty game!
20:42 < owl> <--- currently not willed to talk... as quiet as fish...
20:42 < armijn> owl: blub
20:42 < owl> *grml*
20:42 < armijn> fish don't say "grml"
20:43 < owl> armijn: what then?
20:43 < armijn> blub
20:43 < owl> ah so.
20:43 < tcr> owl is a fishess
20:43 < owl> <-- totally confused
20:43 < tcr> == female fish
20:43 < armijn> *snif* *snif*, I smell fish!
20:43 < owl> *hrhr* it's just the Openbsd-box...
20:44 < armijn> OpenBSD doesn't smell...
20:44 < tcr> owl does?
20:44 < armijn> fish neither, except if they are out in the open for too long...
20:44 < armijn> tcr: how am I supposed to know?
20:44 < tcr> hmm, you'll be forced to find it out, if you want or not!
20:45 < owl> tcr: ???
20:45 < armijn> tcr: but given the fact that she has been in cyberspace longer than in water...
20:45 < armijn> owl: the chattering to death thing...
20:45 < owl> armijn: ? practiced by you and tcr ?
20:45 < armijn> owl: nooo
20:46 < tcr> armijn: caution!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
20:46 < armijn> tcr: ah, this is one of her tricks right?
20:46 < tcr> she's trying to get us psychopathic by pretending not to know what we are talking about!
20:46 < owl> armijn: of course. you both are talking more then myself
20:46 < armijn> tcr: or this is just a trick by you to make me paranoid...
20:47 < armijn> isn't it??
20:47 < tcr> even though, being paranoid isnt bad at all
20:47 < armijn> ;-)
20:47 < armijn> yeah...that reminds me
20:47 < tcr> i'm just a man on a mission ;)
20:47 * armijn puts on "Paranoid" by Black Sabbath
20:48 < tcr> i have a dream that one day my children hasn't to fear about the fearful owl ;)
20:48 < armijn> ok, so, that's "tcr" ,"owl" and "children" in one sentence...
20:48 < tcr> black sabbath \m/
20:48 < armijn> that can't be good
20:49 * tcr is listening to Nargaroth - Black Metal Ist Krieg
20:49 < armijn> tcr: what's wrong with Black Sabbath?
20:49 < tcr> how do you come to the assumption i have anything against itß
20:49 < tcr> ?
20:50 < tcr> it->them
20:50 < armijn> tcr: welll...what's the \m/ then?
20:50 < armijn> a hand?
20:50 < tcr> well stands for moshing or so, something like headbanging
20:51 < armijn> ah k
20:51 < armijn> nargaroth...sounds like black metal...
20:51 < tcr> ya
20:52 < armijn> can't be good then ;-
20:52 < armijn> ;-)
20:52 < armijn> ok, am off
20:52 < armijn> l8r!
20:52 < tcr> blah
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21:18 < rolla> /win2
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21:36 < tsa> re
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21:37 < tsa> re
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21:39 < owl> <-- sleeping
21:40 < owl> good night.
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21:57 < rolla> Mike1:
21:58 < Mike1> what?
21:59 < Mike1> rolla:
22:07 < rolla> :)
22:07 < rolla> just saying hi
22:09 < fake> hi rolla
22:09 < rolla> hello fake how is it going?
22:09 < fake> great... -_-
22:09 < rolla> that is good
22:09 < fake> well, mips is finally in stage 2, happily compiling
22:10 < rolla> :)
22:10 < rolla> very cool glad to here
22:10 < fake> (after i noticed that it's not possible to bind-mount nfs-mounts)
22:11 < rolla> :)
22:11 < rolla> fake: have a warsteiner for me :)
22:13 < fake> rolla: bluaeh. i'd prefer an augustiner, if it has to be pils - or a gutmann, for a weizen ;)
22:13 < rolla> :)
22:13 < rolla> did I spell that right
22:18 < fake> jep.
22:35 < Mike1> yo fake
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23:04 < esden> hi ha
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