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--- Log opened Mon Jan 20 00:00:48 2003 --- Day changed Mon Jan 20 2003 00:05 < holyolli> has anybody experience with em86? 00:05 < holyolli> (in order to run intel binaries on other archs) 00:25 -!- [n00kie] [~[n00kie]@N297P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 00:41 -!- [n00kie] [~[n00kie]@N297P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 00:46 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-178-55.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit ("X-Chat: PARTYTIME! 5 seconds to the millenium! 4...3...2...1...EOF From client") 00:47 -!- Be-El [be-el@p5082B182.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 01:52 -!- Netsplit saberhagen.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: owl, Ge0rG, [anders], rolla, ichilton, chrisime, simon, blindcoder, fake, mayan, (+7 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 01:54 -!- Netsplit over, joins: SMP, simon, snyke, kasc_, owl, aszlig 01:54 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Ge0rG, hannes_, rolla, fake, [anders], mayan 01:55 -!- Netsplit over, joins: blindcoder, chrisime, LoriAW, ichilton 01:56 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Mike1 02:08 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p50802380.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Connection timed out) 02:57 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Der Sinn des Lebens ist die Suche nach eben jenem.") 07:18 -!- kasc_ [~kasc@p5090B1E3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 07:28 -!- kasc_ [~kasc@p5090A561.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:10 -!- Netsplit saberhagen.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: owl, [anders], rolla, ichilton, simon, blindcoder, mayan, fake, LoriAW, hannes_, (+4 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 08:11 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Mike1, ichilton, LoriAW, blindcoder, mayan, [anders], fake, rolla, hannes_, aszlig (+4 more) 09:28 < owl> morning 09:37 < blindcoder> moin moin 09:37 < owl> hi blindcoder 09:53 < fake> fsck 09:53 < fake> bash: relocation error: /lib/libnss_db.so.2: undefined symbol: db_create 09:56 < fake> ... 10:02 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-178-55.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:02 < holyolli> moin 10:08 < owl> moin holyolli 10:08 < holyolli> hi owl 10:09 < holyolli> wget -l 0 -r https://breakfast 10:09 < holyolli> brb 10:16 < fake> hi holyolli 10:16 < holyolli> hi fake 10:27 < owl> moin fake 10:36 -!- demian [~hdw_user@196.40.64.209] has joined #rocklinux 10:36 < demian> hi 10:37 < holyolli> hi demian 10:38 < demian> how are u holyolli ? 10:38 < owl> hi demian 10:38 < holyolli> demian: o.k. - i have no school this morning... :) 10:38 < demian> and u owl 10:38 < holyolli> demian: and how are you...? 10:39 < owl> demian: alive. thx. and you? 10:40 < demian> im fine, a little hag, but that's ok 10:47 < owl> someone know's if c# has a function which converts int to hex? 10:49 * holyolli not 10:49 < demian> do it 10:50 < owl> demian: ? 10:56 < fake> owl: &value? 10:57 < fake> err 10:57 < fake> forget that 10:59 < [anders]> Mike1: ping 10:59 < [anders]> lo dudes.. 10:59 < owl> fake: in c#? i found something like : while (hexint+15>Math.Pow(16,counter-1) { ... } 11:00 < fake> *ROFL* 11:01 < owl> fake: ? 11:01 < fake> oh my fscking god.... 11:01 < fake> i can't believe it 11:01 < fake> https://fake.bchat.net/pics/other/computerbild.jpg 11:02 < fake> that screenshot was shot by me about 5 minutes ago 11:02 < holyolli> *rotfl* 11:02 < holyolli> fake: can i reference the url? 11:02 < fake> holyolli: you can even reference the original url... 11:02 < fake> holyolli: but yes, of course 11:02 < holyolli> ack. 11:03 < holyolli> .oO(we can make now some suggestions, why fake is surfing on computerbild.de ;) 11:03 < [anders]> heheh 11:05 < fake> holyolli: because a colleage told me about that text :P 11:05 < holyolli> hehe... i understand... :-D 11:05 < fake> (no, of course i wondered what in the world a 'PC' might be.) 11:08 < demian> cya 11:08 < holyolli> cu demian 11:08 -!- demian [~hdw_user@196.40.64.209] has left #rocklinux () 11:23 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-178-55.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit ("X-Chat: X-Chat is as X-Chat does") 11:27 -!- Netsplit saberhagen.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: rolla, [anders], ichilton, blindcoder, fake, mayan, LoriAW, hannes_, Mike1, SMP 11:27 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Mike1, ichilton, LoriAW, blindcoder, SMP, hannes_, rolla, fake, [anders], mayan 13:18 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:26 -!- LoriAW is now known as Lorini 13:39 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD9E4F7AE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:00 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4FE66.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:40 -!- Lorini [~andrea@p3EE219E1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:53 < rolla> re 14:56 < esden> hi all 14:57 < fake> hi esden 14:57 < esden> hi fake 14:59 < owl> hi esden 15:00 -!- kasc_ [~kasc@p5090A561.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15:01 < fake> esden: you have mail... 15:01 < esden> k 15:02 < esden> fake: thanks 15:06 < esden> hi owl .. sbtw 15:09 -!- kasc_ [~kasc@p5090A561.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:22 < fake> esden: https://fake.bchat.net/pics/other/computerbild.jpg 15:22 < esden> *klick* 15:23 < esden> lol 15:24 < esden> poerssonell kompjuhter ... that sounds good ;-) 15:24 < fake> esden: i ment the last sentence 15:24 < esden> yes I know 15:24 < esden> but the other thing sounds good too ... that is how germans spell english ... 15:25 < esden> in this world the only existing os is windows 15:30 -!- Netsplit saberhagen.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Ge0rG, [anders], rolla, ichilton, mayan, fake, hannes_, Mike1, SMP 15:31 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Ge0rG, Mike1, ichilton, SMP, hannes_, mayan, [anders], fake, rolla 15:33 < Mike1> pong [anders] 15:33 < rolla> re Mike1 15:37 < owl> ciao. bbl 15:41 < esden> hi Mike1 15:41 < Mike1> hi @ all 15:48 < fake> Calendar will be included in future Mozilla builds 15:48 < fake> kewl. 15:50 < esden> mozilla is morphing to a outlook/ie hybrid 15:53 < rolla> ahhh 15:54 < fake> esden: i like it... the mail functions are nice in the 1.3alpha, enigmail supports gpg and the addressbook is nice, too. plus it uses standards for storing stuff, so you can change the tools at any time 15:58 < rolla> :) 16:10 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 16:10 < blindcoder> fake: will Mozilla support mbox anytime soon? 16:12 < esden> cool : https://radioqualia.va.com.au/freeradiolinux/ 16:12 < fake> blindcoder: it does. since always. 16:13 < fake> cd ~/.mozilla/*/ 16:13 < fake> mutt -f ./<yourmailboxilfe> 16:13 < esden> fake: the beauty lies in the eye of the beholder ;-) 16:13 < fake> even more interesting (about 2.5): 16:13 < fake> - With the above tools, you also no longer need ide-scsi in order to use 16:13 < fake> an IDE CD writer. 16:13 < esden> that is really cool ! 16:14 < fake> ftp.de.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/axboe/tools/ 16:15 < fake> https://lwn.net/Articles/13538/ 16:15 < fake> https://lwn.net/Articles/13160/ 16:33 < esden> cu all ... /me -> lecture 17:00 < fake> == 01/20/03 17:00:42 =[5]=> Finished building package openssl. 17:00 < fake> WEE! 17:02 < Mike1> :) 17:07 -!- totom [~sepp@141.30.69.18] has joined #rocklinux 17:07 < totom> hello 17:07 < Mike1> hi totom 17:07 < totom> how do i build some bootable isos of an compiled rock1.7 tree? 17:12 < totom> yes i know dau question but if i enter ./scripts/CreateCD ... it means not bootable and in the isocd.txt is no boot section 17:14 < fake> are you talking about 1.5/1.6? 17:14 < totom> 1.7 17:15 < fake> ./scripts/Create-ISO 17:15 < fake> did you build a bootdisk-target also? 17:15 < fake> ./scripts/Create-ISO <label> <bootdisktargetconfigname> <othertargetconfigname> 17:16 < totom> ahh ok thanks i was to stupid to understand what to do 17:16 < fake> no, the documentation is quite lacking... 17:21 < blindcoder> hmm... I sent a patch in my last patch-collection to update that part of doc/BUILD 17:22 < totom> if i use some optimisation in the config tool for example athlon-tb will the source compile with -march/-mcpu athlon-tb ? 17:22 < blindcoder> tnhat's the point of it, yes 17:23 * blindcoder watching Anime again 17:23 < totom> is it a good idea to compile all programs with athlon optimisation? 17:24 < totom> i mean will it not decrease stability? 17:26 < fake> just because the athlon is unstable in hardware, it doesn't mean it's software is neccesarily unstable, too ;) 17:28 < totom> hmm i tried this sometime ago with binutils an the result was not working 17:28 < totom> but not with rocklinux 17:46 < blindcoder> root@crazyhorse:/usr/src/rock-src-1.7# ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg bootdisk 17:46 < blindcoder> Error logs from bootdisk-1.7-snapshot-ia32-k6-2-bootdisk-expert: 17:46 < blindcoder> [1] base/linux24 [1] base/gcc3 17:46 < blindcoder> 143 builds total, 40 completed fine, 2 with errors. 17:46 < blindcoder> I just don't get it >_< 17:49 -!- Netsplit saberhagen.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Ge0rG, rolla, [anders], ichilton, fake, mayan, hannes_, Mike1, SMP 17:52 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Ge0rG, Mike1, rolla, fake, [anders], mayan, hannes_, SMP, ichilton 17:52 -!- totom [~sepp@141.30.69.18] has quit ("Killed by frash (Requested by panasync)") 17:55 -!- Netsplit saberhagen.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Ge0rG, [anders], rolla, ichilton, fake, mayan, hannes_, Mike1, SMP 17:59 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Ge0rG, mayan, [anders], fake, rolla, hannes_, SMP, ichilton 18:00 < fake> == 01/20/03 17:54:26 =[5]=> Finished building package python. 18:00 < fake> wee! 18:00 < fake> it goes on and on and on... 18:00 < rolla> what does G-line mean 18:02 -!- Netsplit saberhagen.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: rolla, [anders], Ge0rG, ichilton, fake, mayan, hannes_, SMP 18:02 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Ge0rG, ichilton, mayan, [anders], fake, rolla, hannes_, SMP 18:02 -!- Netsplit saberhagen.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Ge0rG, rolla, [anders], ichilton, fake, mayan, hannes_ 18:03 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 18:03 < Mike1> re 18:03 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Ge0rG, ichilton, hannes_, mayan, [anders], fake, rolla 18:16 -!- rolla [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit ("leaving") 18:17 -!- maisenhe [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:17 -!- maisenhe is now known as rolla 18:18 < rolla> re 18:21 < blindcoder> re rolla 18:21 < blindcoder> *argh* 18:21 < blindcoder> I hate the bootdisk-target >_< 18:26 * blindcoder going 18:32 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 18:36 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 18:36 < Mike1> re @ all 18:38 < rolla> re mike 18:39 < Mike1> Joel :) 18:39 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-178-55.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:39 < holyolli> moin 18:40 < Mike1> holy ! :) 18:40 < holyolli> Mike1 :)) 18:59 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 19:01 < rolla> holyolli: 19:04 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p5080207C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:04 < holyolli> hi rolla 19:04 < holyolli> hi blindcoder, chrisime 19:05 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-178-55.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit ("X-Chat: now with flavor crystals!") 19:08 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-176-181.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:08 < holyolli> re 19:12 * blindcoder now going to kick esdens ass :) 19:12 < blindcoder> greetings from him btw :) 19:16 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813352.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:16 < tcr> moin all 19:18 < holyolli> hi tcr 19:21 < tcr> hi holyolli 19:27 -!- holyolli_ [~holyolli@port-212-202-176-181.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:28 < holyolli_> re... 19:30 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-176-181.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:30 < tcr> wb 19:33 < tcr> blindcoder: ping 19:35 -!- d3mian [~hdw_user@196.40.64.249] has joined #rocklinux 19:35 < d3mian> hi ! 19:35 < holyolli_> hi demian 19:36 < tcr> hi d3mian 19:37 < d3mian> could someone tell mewhat do i need to avoid receive this cups error message: 19:37 < d3mian> Unable to convert file 0 to printable format for job 13! 19:42 < tcr> d3mian: what about asking g00gl3? ;) 19:42 < d3mian> %) 19:44 < d3mian> Mike1: u here ? 19:44 < tcr> apparantly you are missing some filter externsion for bups 19:44 < tcr> cups 19:44 < tcr> for instance to print .ps files 19:45 * tcr taking shower 19:47 < d3mian> seems so, psutilsisalready installed, but stracing lp doesnt show enough info to determine with binary is using to filter source file:( 19:47 < d3mian> i have already installedpsutils,and prob continue, ill see 19:55 < d3mian> oh, i alreadyknow :) 19:55 -!- holyolli_ [~holyolli@port-212-202-176-181.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit ("X-Chat: by any other name is still X-Chat") 20:03 < d3mian> espgs-7.05.5-source.tar.bz2 is needed for CUPS version 1.1.16 and later 20:03 < d3mian> umm 20:06 < Mike1> d3bian 20:06 < Mike1> now i am here :) 20:06 < rolla> Mike1: 20:07 < Mike1> rolla: 20:07 < d3mian> umm, many people has its own packages repos in 1.7 20:07 < d3mian> i havent taken a look lately 20:07 < d3mian> Mikey 20:08 < Mike1> d3bian yes they have added parts of targets and stuff, and Cliff has been a bit flexible letting maintain packages 20:08 < d3mian> umm 20:08 < d3mian> ic 20:08 < Mike1> d3mian: wanna add some packages? 20:09 < d3mian> Mike1: could u make me a please ? 20:09 < Mike1> whats up? 20:09 < d3mian> i need to download some stuff, but my connection is too slow to get them 20:09 < Mike1> d3mian: ? 20:10 < d3mian> could u download them and i burn them there ? 20:10 < d3mian> within those days 20:10 < Mike1> d3mian: ALL 1.7 packages?? 0_o 20:11 < d3mian> it wont be a bad idea too 20:11 < d3mian> %) 20:11 < Mike1> there are over 1GB of packages, so it would take at least 3 hours to download everything maybe 4 20:11 < Mike1> !! 20:11 < d3mian> i got a new HD and a free partitionfor build 20:11 < Mike1> i can seee that :) 20:12 < d3mian> and dunt u have them already there ? 20:12 < Mike1> d3mian: no i cleaned up my harddrive 20:13 < Mike1> all i have are the 1.5 packages 20:13 < d3mian> i see 20:14 < d3mian> and are package versions of 1.5 old ? in comparison with 1.7 ? 20:14 < Mike1> some yes and 1.7 has many more packages 20:16 < d3mian> ok 20:17 < [anders]> Mike1: been to the docs with Helen, and now I am starting to fade a bit... 20:17 < tcr> no, i guess 1.6 is much more up to date than 1.7 20:17 < tcr> except gcc and glibc, gtk and glib 20:18 < Mike1> [anders]: good, welcome back my friend :) 20:18 < [anders]> not going to be monitoring irc a great deal in the next 12 hours, but should be back talking in 12 hours or so.. 20:18 < tcr> but the last too will be upgraded by th when 1.6.0 is out (whenever that will be .. sigh) 20:18 < tcr> hej [anders] 20:18 < d3mian> what gcc versions both versions are currently using ? 20:18 < [anders]> bit repetative there, I am not doing well. Just taken ibuprofen against headache.. 20:18 < [anders]> hej tcr :) 20:18 < tcr> d3mian: 1.7 3.2, 1.6 still 2.95 20:19 < d3mian> and glibc 20:19 < [anders]> going to have a little something to eat, then time to go bed.. 20:19 < Mike1> tcr: speaks svenka? 20:19 * d3mian building gcc 3.2.1 now 20:19 < Mike1> [anders]: ok will talk to you tomorrow, we need to get gnome2 tree back working 20:19 < [anders]> tcr: beware of gcc 3.2.x if you have _lots_ of inline large funtions.. 20:19 < d3mian> ic 20:20 < Mike1> tcr: translation in progress 20:20 < d3mian> i havent had troubles with gcc-3.2.1 yet 20:20 < [anders]> tcr: just been through this at work and you'll need -finline-limit=32768 (or arbitrary large value where large > 2000) 20:20 < Mike1> d3mian: "... _lots_ of inline large funtions.." 20:21 < tcr> Mike1: jag spikar lite svenska 20:21 < [anders]> d3mian: I am talking of linking with a dozen or so static libraries where the biggest libs are 50+ MB 20:21 < [anders]> tcr: spikar ? 20:21 < Mike1> tcr: god :) 20:22 < tcr> [anders]: hmm, tala maybe? 20:22 < [anders]> tcr: talar yes.. :) 20:22 < [anders]> or pratar 20:22 < d3mian> ok, thanx 20:22 < [anders]> anyways, I'm off now chaps.. back tomorrow sometime after 9 am probably.. 20:22 < Mike1> [anders]: svenska master :) 20:23 < [anders]> ~~~ 20:23 < Mike1> ok jeg da [anders] 20:23 < tcr> [anders]: concerning to inline functions 20:24 < Mike1> tcr: too late he's gone to bed :) 20:24 < tcr> the linux kernel is using pretty a lot inline functions but isn't ported to gcc 3.2 yet 20:24 < tcr> ok 20:24 < Mike1> tcr: translation is in progress 20:25 < tcr> ah good. though my friend found someone else who is also working on it. But also on the portugese translation (mainly i think), so just continue 20:25 < tcr> btw Mike1. Have you evern run a build with the new gcc protector patch I once sent to you? 20:26 < Mike1> tcr: make a choise spanish or portuguess? 20:26 < Mike1> *gggg* now, /me has not running a 1.5 build since 1.6.0-pre1 was released 20:26 < Mike1> s/now/no 20:26 < tcr> wait up please 20:27 < Mike1> ? 20:27 < tcr> just wait a sec, i'm asking my friend 20:28 < Mike1> oki 20:30 < tcr> hmm, he told one to translate in spanish and portuguese.. I'll write that guy a mail now, will CC 20:30 < tcr> to you, is that ok? 20:30 < Mike1> well then you don't need me 20:30 < Mike1> tcr: its cool don't worry :) 20:31 < tcr> yeah, but maybe he havent began so far, or with the portuguese one, so you could still do the spanish translation 20:32 < Mike1> tcr: as you wish, you guys decide if you want / need my help then let me know. 20:32 < tcr> at the latest for testing ;) 20:32 < Mike1> ok 20:38 < tcr> Mike1: will inform you then... 20:38 < Mike1> tcr: sure i will be around, as usual :) 20:40 < Mike1> fetching 1.7 source 20:40 < d3mian> i should leave 20:40 < d3mian> cya later guys 20:40 < Mike1> any specific optmization you are interested in? 20:40 < Mike1> ok bye 20:40 < d3mian> :)) 20:41 < d3mian> is there specific things for amd's ? 20:41 < tcr> sure 20:41 < Mike1> d3mian: yeah 20:41 * Mike1 has 2 amds on his workstation :) 20:41 < d3mian> then, for amdand intel 20:42 * d3mian still fetching 1.7 sources.. 20:42 < Mike1> ia32 ... no big deal :) 20:42 < d3mian> cvs server: Updating rock-src-1.7/package/rene/libtiff 20:42 * Mike1 finished fetching 1.7 1.5 and hdw 20:42 < Mike1> :) 20:42 < d3mian> damnit 20:42 * Mike1 kicked d3mians ass 20:42 < d3mian> add them to the sources i asked u then :) 20:42 < Mike1> ack 20:42 < d3mian> thanx :) 20:43 < d3mian> bye 20:43 -!- d3mian [~hdw_user@196.40.64.249] has left #rocklinux () 20:43 < Mike1> bye 20:43 < Mike1> *g 20:55 < owl> re 20:56 < Mike1> wb owl 20:56 < owl> hi Mike1 21:35 < rolla> what does K-line mean ? 21:40 < Ge0rG> a permanent ban from an irc server for an IP or IP range 21:42 < rolla> great 21:42 < rolla> stupied undernet 21:49 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813352.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21:54 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p508130F5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:54 < tcr> th: ping !! 21:54 < th> tcr: pong 21:56 < rolla> ping 21:56 < th> rolla: pong 21:57 < tcr> ah! 21:57 < tcr> th: what do you think to add --enable-multibyte to the configure flags of VIM? I'd /really/ favor that. 21:58 < tcr> hi th and rolla btw ;) 21:58 < th> tcr: i'd have no problem with that 21:58 < tcr> should I or will you do it? 21:58 < owl> re tcr, hi th 21:58 < th> tcr: i'm already on it 21:59 < tcr> wonderful 22:00 < th> tcr: committed. please give it a test-build 22:01 < tcr> th: btw what are the option for cvs up to force overwriting all files, even those being modified locally? 22:01 < tcr> options 22:01 < th> tcr: rm the local files 22:02 < tcr> that's fucking unhandy >_< 22:03 < th> Use the `-C' option to overwrite locally modified files with clean copies from the 22:03 < th> repository (the modified file is saved in `.#file.revision', however). 22:03 < tcr> yeah, just looked up myself now 22:05 < th> i did not knew this option 22:06 < tcr> well, as they are saved it's not what I want all 22:07 < tcr> btw. th: does --enable-{ruby,perl,python}interp require perl/ruby/pythion installed to compile vim? 22:07 < th> tcr: i'm not sure but i do not think so 22:09 < tcr> if i just run ./scripts/Build-Pkg vim, that will overwrite my system config files of vim, that's quite annoying. is the prefered way to make a tbz2 and then install it via pkg-update? 22:09 < tcr> i'm not 100% about overwriting, but i noticied that once when building another pkg 22:09 < th> VIM - Vi IMproved 6.1 (2002 Mar 24, compiled Jan 20 2003 22:08:39) 22:09 < th> -mouse_netterm +mouse_xterm +multi_byte +multi_lang -osfiletype +path_extra 22:10 < th> tcr: are you sure about this? 22:10 < th> tcr: which file is overwritten? 22:11 < tcr> hmm 22:11 < tcr> i know it was /etc/modules.conf, but i dunno the pkg that caused that 22:11 < th> ahh i thought you meant vim 22:11 < tcr> i thought it's the intended way 22:12 < th> a package should not do so 22:12 < tcr> and i also think that even calling build-pkg -mktar did update the local /var/adm/*/ files 22:13 < th> ouhm. 22:13 < tcr> hmm, seems i should recheck build-pkg *g* 22:14 < tcr> th: but i wonder how build-pkg is prevented from overwriting local files 22:14 < tcr> th: sine a make install does affect the system 22:14 < tcr> since 22:15 < tcr> indeed, the preferred way may be to use -mktar and update the pkg via pkg-update 22:21 < tcr> th: or even the maintainer of a pkg is supposed to take about that and add such files to $flistdel -- which only works when using the flist wrapper 22:22 < th> tcr: are you talking of files belonging to that package or files that come from e.g. sysfiles 22:23 < tcr> both actually 22:26 < tcr> th: btw. could you take a look at fix-nvidia.patch sent to the list by niko some minutes ago? 22:27 < th> tcr: ok 22:27 < tcr> the patch line looks very bogus to me. 22:27 < th> fix-nvidia.patch : remove modprobe 22:27 < th> remove modprobe? 22:28 < tcr> take a look at the actual patch 22:28 < tcr> i'm talking about +patch -p1 < $confdir/no_modprobe.patch 22:28 < th> i looks to me like it removes the modprobing while building 22:28 < tcr> .patch files are still applied by Build-Pkg and dont need to be applied in the .conf file directly 22:28 < th> which is fine 22:29 < th> ahh 22:29 < th> yes 22:29 < th> you are right 22:29 < th> +patch -p1 < $confdir/no_modprobe.patch 22:29 < th> this line seems bogus to me too now 22:29 < th> ;> 22:33 < tcr> do you wanna complain or should i write a mail, just for the case that this passed clifford's eagle eyes ;) 22:33 < tcr> i actually want to go sleeping now.. 22:34 < th> i wont answer that mail 22:35 < tcr> hrm 22:35 < tcr> :P you are tyrannical 22:35 < th> ;-) it's actually to early to go to bed now for you 22:36 < tcr> the first two lessons are ancient greek, that's gonna exhaust me, without 6 hours sleep not bearable 22:37 < tcr> tomorrow 22:37 < th> ;> 22:37 < th> ancient greek? 22:37 < th> what the hell are you doing? 22:38 < tcr> learning for my life.. 22:38 < th> ouhm 22:38 < tcr> never wondered about my quit msg? 22:40 < th> yes 22:40 < th> enlighten me 22:41 < th> i just noticed that it isn't latin 22:44 < tcr> 'Wer Notwendiges weiß, nicht wer viel weiß, ist weise' (Who knows necessary things, not who knows much, is wise) 22:44 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-176-181.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:44 < holyolli> re 22:44 < owl> re holyolli 22:44 < holyolli> hi owl 22:44 < th> tcr: thanks 22:44 < tcr> but now going to bed, gn8 all 22:44 < holyolli> n8 tcr 22:44 < th> gn8 tcr 22:44 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p508130F5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 22:51 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-be-10-1-dialup-67.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 22:53 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-be-10-1-dialup-67.freesurf.ch] has quit (Client Quit) 22:54 -!- chrisime_ [~chrisime@p508025DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:07 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p5080207C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:23 -!- ringo30 [ringo78@xs4.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 23:57 -!- ringo30_ [ringo78@xs1.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 23:57 -!- ringo30 [ringo78@xs4.xs4all.nl] has quit ("leaving") --- Log closed Tue Jan 21 00:00:06 2003