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06:17 [ [anders]  ] [ esden  ] [ ichilton] [ Mike1  ] [ rolla] [ snyke] 
06:17 [ aszlig    ] [ fake   ] [ kasc_   ] [ owl    ] [ simon] 
06:17 [ blindcoder] [ hannes_] [ mayan   ] [ praenti] [ SMP  ] 
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08:17 < fake> morgen!
08:17 < th> moin
08:21 < blindcoder> moin
08:35 < blindcoder> my opinion of Addison-Wesloy just got worse
08:35 < blindcoder> either that or my opinion of Apache's own documentation of their httpd 2.0
08:55 < blindcoder> okay, that's it
08:55 < blindcoder> the mpm_perchild is absolutely unusable for big ISPs (contrary to what Addison-Wesleys "Apache Webserver 2.0" claims)
09:20 < owl> *yawn* morgen
09:23 < blindcoder> moin owl
09:23 * blindcoder ranting against Apache httpd 2.0
09:23 < owl> hi blindy ;)
11:37 < esden> hi all
11:37 < blindcoder> hi esden
11:39 < owl> hi esden
11:40 < blindcoder> urks
11:40 < blindcoder> this perl here has almost nothing >_<
11:40 < blindcoder> a wonder that CPAN.pm is there
11:42 < esden> hehe .. a clean installation ;-)
11:42 < blindcoder> esden: you can put it that way, too :)
11:42 < blindcoder> virgin installation :)
11:45 < esden> teen installation ;-)
11:46 < esden> like in "not full featured"
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11:50 < vectrax> hi
11:53 < owl> hi vectrax
11:53 < blindcoder> hi vectrax
11:57 < esden> hi vectrax 
11:58 < aszlig> hi vectrax
11:58 < aszlig> *lool*
11:58 < vectrax> ;)
12:00 < esden> aszlig: do you feel fine ?
12:02 < aszlig> yeah ;)
12:02 < owl> aszlig: you missed school yesterday!
12:02 < aszlig> oh..
12:02 < aszlig> i forgot school *gg*
12:03 < owl> *ouch*
12:05 < vectrax> lol
12:06 < owl> "forgot to breath. now i'm dead. stupid thing"
12:09 < aszlig> i'm dead? didn't know?
12:11 < owl> no, no, no. but it's a "metapher" like "man kann auch ueber hamburg nach rom fahren" you see?
12:12 < owl> (now i'm teaching german... help!!)
12:13 < blindcoder> owl: You expect aszlig to understand what you're babbling about?
12:14 < owl> blindcoder: a) i'm not "babbling" and b) if you want to offend someone - then look for someone else
12:15 < blindcoder> :P
12:16 < blindcoder> we're in a bad mood today, aren't we?
12:16 < owl> blindcoder: i dunno if we are. but /me isn't in bad mood
12:17 < esden> blindcoder: owl is easyly ofendable ;-)
12:17 < blindcoder> owl: definately dosn't look like that
12:18 < blindcoder> esden: yuah, and especially today. How was the pizza?
12:18 < owl> blindcoder: and "babbling" doesn't sound very friendly imho. it sounds like "oh my god. now she's talking sh** again"
12:18 < esden> blindcoder: 237 days !!! i love this uptime ;-)
12:18 < esden> owl: you take things to serious ...
12:18 < blindcoder> esden: nIt will be gone soon. We should change the disk rather sooner than later
12:18 < esden> blindcoder: yes I know ... *sigh*
12:19 < blindcoder> owl: you cried for help yourself, didn't you?
12:19 < blindcoder> esden: erdi already asked me to do it, because I also can, but i refused to do so
12:19 < owl> blindcoder: n. f. c.
12:19 < esden> blindcoder: the pizza was great ... with "thunfisch", onion, and garlic ... really good
12:20 < blindcoder> owl: hmm... I know nfw and kfc, but nfc?
12:20 < esden> and I got an info from matze ... ;-) *jumparound*
12:20 < owl> no further comments
12:20 < blindcoder> esden: urks... good thing that noone has to sleep next to you
12:20 < esden> yes ;-)
12:20 < blindcoder> esden:  me too. His "Untersuchung"
12:20 < esden> yes
12:20 * blindcoder hugs esden
12:21 < esden> *rehug*
12:21 * -> esden hugs matze ;-)
12:21 < blindcoder> owl: by telling me this you already gave another comment :)
12:21 < blindcoder> esden: yes, that's what I did yesterday, too :)
12:21 < esden> I only could call him 
12:22 * aszlig is in a too good mood today ;)
12:22 < esden> but I will do it when I see him
12:22 < aszlig> re
12:22 < aszlig> :)
12:22 < blindcoder> well, i met him at the cinema yesterday
12:22 < esden> aha
12:23 * -> esden finally understands what spinlocks are ! *happy*
12:23 < blindcoder> then tell me :)
12:23 < blindcoder> spinning locks?
12:23 < esden> this are semaphores
12:23 < blindcoder> to make unlocking more difficult? :)
12:23 < esden> no !!!
12:24 < blindcoder> and what are they used for?
12:24 < esden> this semaphores are protecting a critical code so that a process running this critical code is not interupted ... and noone executes this protected code symultanously
12:24 < blindcoder> hmmm... i c
12:24 < esden> but it is possible that other processes run on other processors in that machine
12:25 < esden> so it is usefull for SMP machines ... but nothing else ...
12:25 < esden> and on SMP this locking is much faster then the global locks
12:25 < esden> ala storeflags(); cli()
12:25 < blindcoder> sweet. Now all I need is a SMP machine :)
12:25 < esden> hehe ... yes
12:26 < blindcoder> esden: oh, I finally know how to do the hex-map RIGHT
12:26 < esden> I want a 4 processor alpha machine ;-)
12:26 < esden> blindcoder: with triangles ;-)
12:27 < blindcoder> esden: you read the post on happypenguin?
12:27 < esden> no ... you told me about it ;-)
12:27 < blindcoder> I did o_0? When?
12:27 < esden> on monday ;-)
12:28 < blindcoder> oh... really... hmm... where is my brain >_<
12:28 < esden> you ever had a brain ?
12:29 < aszlig> hrhr
12:29 < aszlig> *gg*
12:29 < blindcoder> welll... I think I once had one
12:29 < vectrax> loool
12:29 < esden> blindcoder: you _think_ you had one ... you have no brain ... so you can not think ... ;-)
12:30 < blindcoder> damn
12:30 * blindcoder stops thinking
12:30 < esden> well done blindcoder ... thinking is something for lamers ;-)
12:31 < owl> <-- lamer ;P
12:31 * blindcoder is happy
12:31 < blindcoder> libgli is now distributed with ROCK Linux *laughs*
12:32 < esden> that is a sure end for ROCK ;-)
12:32 < blindcoder> *mwahahaha*
12:32 < blindcoder> hey, it only needs .05 BSUs to compile
12:33 < blindcoder> if at all
12:34 < blindcoder> hmmm
12:34 < blindcoder> someone shot the Happy Penguin
12:34 < esden> but when you compile it some thousend times ... then it takes longer then compiling open office ;-)
12:34 < esden> that really is a sure end for rock ;-)
12:34 < blindcoder> hmmm
12:35 < blindcoder> never compiled OOo by hand
12:35 < blindcoder> always used precompiled binaries :)
12:37 * blindcoder --> hunting
12:50 < fake> re.
12:51 < owl> hi fake. r u enjoying school right now?
12:51 < fake> 'enjoy' ??
12:51 < owl> fake: sure. do you have something against school?
12:52 < esden> hoho fake 
12:52 < fake> owl: i'd enjoy sitting at the beach at night, using wifi to work on rock whilst listening to the waves... *sigh*
12:52 < fake> jo esden
12:53 < esden> fake: do not describe such beautifull things please ... *sigh*
12:53 < owl> fake: hm. bad then. might you should concentrate listening to the lessons instead and force yourself to enjoy this? *vbeg*
12:53 < fake> owl: that would be even more useless.
12:54 < owl> fake: hm. bad luck... what then?...
12:55 < fake> watching the cobalt drop gems ... ;)
12:55 < fake> it just finished =[9]=> make
12:55 < esden> fake: is cobalt a miner in a gem/cobalt mine ? 
12:56 < owl> how many packages failed until now?
12:58 < fake> esden: i never thought about that analogy... ;) that's funny
12:58 < fake> owl: why are you so negative?
12:59 < owl> fake: why should this question be negative? it's neutral...
13:00 < esden> http://www.privatkopie.net/index.php <-- what do you think about it ? is it worth signing ?
13:04 < fake> owl: you coud have asked: "how many build fine?"
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13:08 < owl> *grr*
13:08 < owl> re
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13:08 < fake>  Der Brief wurde abgeschickt, Sie sind Unterzeichner Nummer 36885
13:09 < fake> (that was not german *g*_
13:12 < fake> owl: nothing seriouse
13:13 < owl> *failed?
13:13 < fake> owl: dietlibc,syslog-ng,screen,gpm,minicom,mtools,alsa,apmd,reiserfsprogs,raidtools,isdn4k-utils,pcmcia-cs,wu-ftpd,keepalived,man-pages
13:13 < fake> nothing one realy _needs_ ;)
13:13 < owl> k.
13:14 < fake> and besides ditelibc it's not the mips port's fault they don't build.
13:18 < owl> i c.
13:22 < blindcoder> rehi
13:22 < esden> re blindcoder 
13:23 < esden> fake: why is screen not compiling for example ?
13:23 < esden> it should be portable ... or not ?
13:24 * -> esden getting knoppix cd ... from leo.org ... that is fun sucking stuff with 950K/s
13:25 < owl> <-- break. brb
13:28 < fake> esden: uh,just a sec
13:28 < fake> configure: error: Can't run the compiler - internal error. Sorry.
13:28 < fake> *rofl*
13:30 < blindcoder> *lol*
13:30 < blindcoder> at least it apologises for incompetence :)
13:32 < esden> *rofl*
13:33 < esden> fake: the gcc runig nativ on mips seems to be fscked
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13:39 < owl> re
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13:40 < blindcoder> re
13:42 < esden> re
13:43 * blindcoder now finally has spamassassin running @home
13:43 < esden> the filter ... or the invoked script ?
13:48 < fake> esden: it's running fine.
13:50 < blindcoder> esden: since it's just my prrivate box I fsck up I just pipe each mail to spamassassin via ~/.procmailrc
13:52 < blindcoder> no spamc or spamd
13:55 < blindcoder> esden: ping
13:55 < blindcoder> esden: did you send a mail to the woman from kidnetting?
14:04 < fake> tne new p3 build will be nice
14:04 < fake> esden: maybe we should update the technik-rechners in bitz
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14:13 < blindcoder> esden is dead
14:14 < fake> oh.
14:15 < Mike1> Moin all
14:15 < fake> moin Mike1
14:16 < Mike1> hi fake
14:18 < owl> hi Mike1
14:19 < blindcoder> *UUUUUUUUAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH*
14:20 < Mike1> hi owl
14:20 < blindcoder> sorry, that just had to be :)
14:20 < blindcoder> hi Mike1
14:20 < blindcoder> anyone knows the Linux Progress Patch?
14:20 < Mike1> hi blindy? are you ok my friend?
14:21 < blindcoder> no, I'm not okay... that is... yes, of course I am... erm... I don't know
14:21 < Mike1> m...
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14:22 < ringo30> hi all(e).
14:22 < blindcoder> hi ringo30
14:22 < Mike1> hi ringo30
14:22 < owl> moin ringo30
14:24 < rolla> re
14:24 < blindcoder> esden: !!!
14:24 < blindcoder> esden: !!!
14:24 < blindcoder> esden: !!!
14:24 < blindcoder> *grmpf*
14:24 < blindcoder> I'll call him
14:25 < blindcoder> okay, got on his nerves :)
14:38 * blindcoder now trying  to apply the lpp
14:39 < Mike1> <AOL> /me too </AOL>
14:46 < rolla> esden:
14:47 < blindcoder> hmm
14:47 < blindcoder> have to do that at home it seems...
14:47 < blindcoder> too many patch rejects...
15:26 < fake> p3 is building ike a charme
15:27 < blindcoder> nice
15:32 < ringo30> anybody know anything about mc core dunping with gpm ?
15:33 < blindcoder> there was a thread on the mailing list about that. I think the thread is still active
15:33 < blindcoder> compile without gpm and it works
15:35 < ringo30> ok will read about it, yes done that allready, it seems gpm_open inf lib/liblow.c seems to trouble it, I'll read the mailing list first, Thanks.
15:36 < ringo30> inf = in sri.
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15:50 < tsa> hi
15:52 < owl> hi tsa
15:54 < blindcoder> hi tsa
15:54 < tsa> hi owl
15:54 < tsa> hi blindcoder
15:54 * blindcoder going home. bye bye
15:59 * fake too
16:00 < Mike1> lucky guys!
16:21 < rolla> grrr
16:41 < esden> hi all
16:41 < esden> rolla: another 80mb ... then the upload is ready
16:42 < owl> <-- going home.
16:42 < owl> ciao. bbl
16:44 < esden> cu owl
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17:00 < blindcoder> rehi
17:01 < esden> re blindcoder
17:01 < esden> I know the lpp
17:01 < blindcoder> and I now patch it into my kernel
17:01 < esden> but at the moment I have tested it it was not applying to the current 2.4. kernel series
17:01 < esden> back then 2.4.17 was actual
17:01 < blindcoder> well, I found one that is for 2.4.17
17:02 < esden> blindcoder: which vorsion of lpp ?
17:02 < esden> ahh yes
17:02 < blindcoder> and that one applies almost perfectly against 2.4.20
17:02 < blindcoder> only 4 minor rejects and only one of these is vital
17:02 < esden> hmm ... then it seems that there is a newer one
17:02 < blindcoder> http://scavenger.homeip.net/~blindcoder/linux-2.4.17-lpp.patch
17:03 < esden> init scripts have to be updated too
17:03 < esden> or better "altered" ;-)
17:04 < blindcoder> yes
17:04 * -> esden eating a two day old sandwitch
17:04 < blindcoder> I want to make it an option next to init_raw and init_nice
17:06 < esden> hmm ... but you will need an option if rock should apply the patch ... and with which theme
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17:06 < blindcoder> that won't be a big problem
17:07 < esden> besides the problem convincing cliff to apply the patch ;-)
17:08 * -> esden still waiting for clifford to fix "cleanly" the gcc under dietlibc compile problem >_<
17:08 < esden> but it seems that I will wait till I am very old 
17:09 < blindcoder> esden: yes, I think that will be like cpmv_D_switch.patch
17:09 < blindcoder> It will stay in my pesonal tree forever
17:12 < blindcoder> okay, patch mostly applied
17:12 < esden> but you have not subwmitted the patch as an option ... but only for inclusion
17:12 < esden> otherwise it would work probably
17:12 < blindcoder> now i have to search for specific PREGRESS(); that have vanished in 3 patch-levels
17:23 < esden> 28 mb ...
17:23 < esden> *sigh*
17:23 < blindcoder> hmm
17:23 < blindcoder> no ./scripts/Config in /usr/src/linux
17:24 < esden> loool
17:24 < esden> but yes that sux ;-)
17:26 * blindcoder now configuring LPP-Kernel :)
17:28 < esden> humm humm ... do you have a camera to document it ?
17:28 < esden> when and if it boots ?
17:29 < blindcoder> no
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17:29 < esden> hi Mike1 !!!
17:29 < Mike1> hi esden !!!
17:29 < esden> hmm another 22 minutes ...
17:30 < esden> I WANT MY BANDWIDTH BACK !
17:30 < Mike1> LOL
17:31 < esden> 20 minutes ...
17:31 < esden> yadda yadda
17:31 * Mike1 feeling stress comming from esden ...
17:34 * -> esden emiting stress waves
17:34 < esden> and particles ... that emition is twotyped
17:36 < blindcoder> okay, making
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17:42 < blindcoder> *ARGH*
17:42 < blindcoder> STUPDI FUCKING KERNEL
17:42 < blindcoder> /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-rock/include/linux/kernel.h:10:20: stdarg.h: No such file or directory
17:43 < blindcoder> wtf?
17:43 < blindcoder> it is in /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.1/include/stdarg.h
17:43 < Mike1> wwaa stress waves all over the chan
17:43 < blindcoder> it is symlinked in /usr/include/stdarg.h
17:43 < blindcoder> WTF?
17:46 < blindcoder> shouldn't /usr/include be included automatically???
17:47 < blindcoder>  if you need
17:47 < blindcoder> # 'kbuild_2_4_nostdinc :=' or -I/usr/include for kernel code and you are not UML
17:47 < blindcoder> # then your code is broken!  KAO.
17:47 < esden> another 4 minutes ....
17:48 < blindcoder> hmm...
17:48 < blindcoder> should I file a bug report to ROCK?
17:48 < esden> prrrr
17:49 < blindcoder> ah, wtf. I just try adding -I/usr/include
17:50 < blindcoder> the file I need isn't in /usr/include but in /lib/gcc-3.2.1/include/.../.../... but who cares
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17:53 < esden> ahh finished !!!!
17:54 < esden> weee !!!
17:54 < esden> I can type normally !!!
17:54 < esden> weee !!! *jumparound*
18:03 < tsa> ??
18:04 < blindcoder> esden loosing the last bits of mind htat were left
18:04 < tsa> ah, i understand..
18:07 < blindcoder> brb
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18:08 < esden> uhmm
18:08 < esden> ok ... I watch a film ... ;-)
18:16 < fake> re.
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18:35 < snyke> http://eros.bingo-ev.de/picz/fake.jpg.small.jpg <- fake
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18:37 < blindcoder> rehi
18:38 < snyke> re
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18:46 < fake> Finishing build.
18:47 < fake> who's in bitz? *g*
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18:48 < blindcoder> rehi
18:48 < Lorini> re
18:49 < fake> blindcoder: @bitz?
18:49 < fake> Lorini: re!
18:49 < Lorini> hey fake :)
18:49 < blindcoder> fake: no, @home
18:49 < fake> 1215 builds total, 1113 completed fine, 102 with errors.
18:51 < blindcoder> fake: where should printk's be visible?
18:51 < fake> blindcoder: <value>
18:52 < blindcoder> I mean `dmesg` or /var/log/boot.msg
18:52 < fake> blindcoder: depends on how you important it is
18:52 < fake> s,you,,
18:52 < blindcoder> during boot
18:53 < fake> blindcoder: dmesg = /var/log/boot.msg on rock, isn't it?
18:53 < blindcoder> hmm.. duno by heart
18:53 < fake> yes, it should be in dmesg.
18:53 < fake> (or in the serial console output... if you have one ;)
18:54 < blindcoder> then I need more printks
18:54 < blindcoder> brb again
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19:04 < blindcoder> looks like this will be MUCH more work to got going than I thouht
19:04 < rolla> grr
19:08 < rolla> okay who here is from italy?
19:08 < blindcoder> not me
19:09 < rolla> hmm
19:09 < rolla> they were trying to download a alpha.iso file off of my server
19:10 < blindcoder> so?
19:11 < blindcoder> try /ctcp ping #rocklinux and check IP adresses
19:11 < blindcoder> not that this necessarily helps
19:12 < rolla> crap now I have hung conns on ftp
19:12 < rolla> fgrrr
19:13 >>> [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] requested CTCP VERSION from #rocklinux: 
19:15 < esden> re fake cool
19:15 < rolla> I need to find out who this is
19:17 < blindcoder> hmm....
19:18 < blindcoder> Maybe I'm also just plain stupid
19:18 < rolla> esden: ?
19:19 < blindcoder> hmm.... no I'm not
19:19 < esden> erm
19:19 < esden> I wanted to say that slayers is cool ...
19:19 < esden> but I had something here in the line before ... 
19:19 < esden> so that is why I greet fake so strangely ... ;-)
19:21 < blindcoder> esden: seems like LPP on 2.4.20 has to wait a little
19:21 < esden> yes ? why ?
19:21 < esden> I had also problems with 2.4.19 ... or so ...
19:22 < esden> but can not remember what it was ...
19:22 < blindcoder> the picture is already there, and I can also redirect the console via append="console=/dev/vc2" so that it doesn't get messed up but the progress bar stil doesn't appear as well as /proc/progress isn't there
19:22 < esden> hmm ... that is bad
19:22 < esden> perhups the proc api has changed ?
19:22 < blindcoder> I think the missing progressbar and the missing /proc/progress are connected
19:22 < blindcoder> solve one, and the other is solved
19:22 < blindcoder> no, then kcc woul scream
19:23 < blindcoder> Also i don't think Marcelo vould change the /proc-API within just patch-levels
19:30 < esden> ok ... matze away ...
19:35 < blindcoder> matze away?
19:37 < esden> yes he was here ... getting some films ;-)
19:37 < blindcoder> oh.. okay
19:37 * blindcoder shutting the windows, dimming the lights and closing the curtains
19:38 < esden> o_O
19:38 < blindcoder> well if matze was at your place then that means he'll be at my place soon and I want to go to bed in 10 minutes
19:39 < blindcoder> I'm really sorry, but even if he's as good a friend as a brother to me... I'm sleepy and can't stand anyone 10 meters near me right now
19:40 < esden> blindcoder: you are really strange ... 
19:40 < blindcoder> esden: don't be surprised. This is me you're talking to after all :)
19:41 < esden> *sigh* ... yes ... 
19:42 < blindcoder> what?
19:42 < esden> nothing ... *hug* ;-)
19:42 < blindcoder> what have I fscked up now?
19:42 < blindcoder> okay *rehug* :)
19:43 < esden> you ... you have not fscked up anything other than always ;-)
19:44 < esden> I start watching CCS ... I thing that is the best thing I can do now ... besides lerning ... ;-)
19:45 < blindcoder> hehe indeed :)
19:45 < blindcoder> and I go sleeping... this lpp is driving me nuts
19:45 < blindcoder> byebye
19:45 < tsa> grr..learning..*sigh*
19:45 < esden> blindcoder: good night
19:45 < esden> tsa: *no_comment*
19:46 < tsa> <- examen on tuesday..
19:55 < rolla> it is cold here :(
20:11 < ringo30> here 2 wearing to sweaters...
20:13 < rolla> what is the temp there ?
20:13 < rolla> it is -9C here
20:25 < owl> re
20:25 < esden> "Card Captor Sakura" Weeee ... it is sooo sweet !!
20:26 < owl> what is it about?
20:26 < esden> about a little girl that has to capture monsters in cards ... it is sweeeeet ;-)
20:27 < owl>  *lol*
20:27 < esden> and has a little helper ... he is callyng himself kerberos ... but it is a "meerschweinchen" with wings ;-)
20:28 < owl> with wings? *hmpf*
20:28 < rolla> what the hell
20:29 < rolla> sounds like pokiemon
20:30 < esden> hmm ... perhups ... it sounds so ... but it is sweet ... 
20:30 < rolla> okay
20:30 < rolla> is it anime?
20:30 < esden> if you ask me it is not so dumb as pokemon
20:30 < esden> yes it is anime ...
20:30 < rolla> :)
20:30 < rolla> I like Kenshin
20:31 < rolla> Tenche
20:31 < rolla> Escafolwne
20:31 < esden> hmm ... I do not know kenshin ... sorry ... blindcoder is _the_ otaku that I know ;-)
20:31 < esden> ahh escaflowne ... I know that
20:32 < esden> that is really good
20:32 < rolla> Kenshin is called some other name in german
20:32 < [anders]> *cough* *cough*
20:32 < esden> I watch the originals with engilsh subtitles
20:32 < owl> hi [anders]
20:32 < rolla> :)
20:32 < esden> so the titles remain original ;-) ... normally
20:32 < esden> hi [anders] 
20:32 < [anders]> lo owl
20:32 < rolla> yeah
20:32 < [anders]> lo esden
20:32 < [anders]> and all the others.. :)
20:33 < rolla> re [anders]
20:33 < esden> ok ... I watch an other episode ...
20:33 * [anders] has been off work sick since monday... time to see the doc now me thinks..
20:34 * [anders] is awaiting a parcel containing a Teach Yourself Russian book/CD package..
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20:34 < owl> [anders]: have fun with it... e.g. with cyrillic letters... ;P
20:35 < tcr> moin
20:35 < owl> hi tcr
20:36 < [anders]> owl: I need to set up the xterm properly..
20:36 < owl> [anders]: *lol* ok. but writing/learning them by writing them down to a piece of paper is more useful imho ;)
20:37 < ringo30> temp here inside is 19.
20:40 < [anders]> owl: That is true. that should come with the book though..
20:41 < [anders]> ringo30: adequate.. :)
20:42 < owl> [anders]: but what do you need russian for? ;)
20:43 < [anders]> owl: been wanting to learn russian for the last 15 years, and now I am finally getting a chance to do so.. I like the sound of russian when spoken..
20:43 < owl> i. c.
20:44 < [anders]> owl: as well as the fact that in 10-15 years, the russian market will probably be bigger than the american one.. (and I will laugh very hard at the americans then..)
20:44 < tcr> i like english with a russian accent in james bond films, etc ;)
20:44 < [anders]> tcr: well, a little like Pitr in UserFriendly ? :)
20:45 < tcr> yea
20:45 < owl> [anders]: maybe. we will see then... in 10 - 15 years or so :)
20:45 < tcr> hmm, does live many russians in gb?
20:45 < [anders]> tcr: dunno..
20:45 < tcr> arghs screwed up!
20:46 < [anders]> owl: it is already a big market, just not as open as could be..
20:46 < tcr> in germany they are /a lot/
20:46 < tcr> and to be honest they dont behave very well
20:47 < owl> [anders]: dunno.
20:47 < rolla> :)
20:47 < ringo30> anders :oebierasje ;-)
20:48 < [anders]> tcr: there could be a reason they are not in Russia.. if they are not behaving well, perhaps they were 'told' that leaving the country was a good idea?
20:48 < [anders]> ringo30: huh?
20:48 < ringo30> russian ?
20:48 < ringo30> Its phonetical Russian.
20:48 < [anders]> ringo30: I don't speak/read it yet.. :)
20:49 < ringo30> You remember thats what you say when a girl really fancies oyu.
20:49 < [anders]> what does it mean?
20:49 < ringo30> go away ;-)
20:49 < [anders]> ringo30: ah..
20:50 < owl> eh, ringo30, that's not friendly! *complain* ;P
20:50 < tcr> [anders]: nah, russia's economics are just exremely bad.. there was a time they left russia to find jobs here, well and as the years went by they told their relatives to come too. and now many russians live here
20:51 < [anders]> tcr: you are probably right. :)
20:51 < ringo30> ja w tjebja wloebjon. Is probably better.
20:52 < tcr> [anders]: and their behaviour, well.. i know a german word, but cant find a translation.. hrm
20:52 < [anders]> tcr: what is the german word then?
20:53 < [anders]> ringo30: I guess you speak russian then... :)
20:55 < ringo30> nope just go a little book called Russian on vakation (thats if oyu want to go there on vacation).
20:55 < ringo30> s/oyu/you
20:56 < [anders]> ringo30: aaahh.. :) well, I looked at those but decided to go for a little bit more..
20:57 < tcr> [anders]: well just some expression for people who just do what they do, don't respect other (or other's norms).. well they just appear in a very associal behaviour
20:57 < tcr> do what they want
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20:58 < [anders]> tcr: that is a good explanation.. :)
20:58 < tcr> hmm.. well of course there are exceptions! but those are just proving the rule anyway ;->
20:59 < ringo30> hmm I encounteres allso a cpule of Russians in Thailand, they proved the rule.
20:59 < rolla> grrr script kiddies need to die
20:59 < ringo30> s/cpule/couple/
20:59 < ringo30> rolla ?
21:00 < tcr> rolla was h4x0red by some scr1pt k1dz!
21:00 < tcr> yuck
21:00 < [anders]> hm.. got to disconnect, and reconnect in a few moment..
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21:01 < tcr> hi bluefire
21:01 < ringo30> rolla: I am sorry for you.
21:01 < tcr> ringo30: lol ;) dont take me serious!
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21:02 < tcr> re
21:02 < [anders]> re re
21:03 < tcr> [anders]: already watched Star Trek Nemesis? =/\=
21:04 < [anders]> tcr: nope..
21:04 < [anders]> any good?
21:04 < ringo30> tcr : sri .... Could be I think I have some major leaks around here.
21:05 < tcr> [anders]: yea, it's star trek! what am i supposed to say more?
21:05 < tcr> and dont pretent not being a star trek fan
21:05 < ringo30> 7/9 playing in it ?
21:06 < [anders]> hehe
21:06 < [anders]> star trek is good to watch, but I prefer STNG over any of the other..
21:06 < tcr> ringo30: hmm for that purpose the playboy was invented :->
21:06 < tcr> [anders]: yeah !!! nemesis is said to be the last episode of captain picard and his crew
21:07 < ringo30> ahh some > nice pics on p2p networks ;-)
21:11 < tcr> for what country does .tv stand for?
21:12 < tcr> s,for,,1
21:13 < ringo30> tuvalu
21:13 < tsa>  tv = Tuvalu
21:13 < tcr> ah
21:13 < tsa> xchat has /country for this ;)
21:14 < tcr> uh indeed
21:15 < owl> 78 kb/s??? at home? with isdn? wtf????
21:15 < tcr> might be a computing error
21:15 < owl> maybe...
21:16 < tcr> you'll realize it at the latest when your wires get inflamed
21:17 < owl> hehe.and my eumex-box burns
21:17 < owl> "set this world on fire"
21:36 < rolla> well the email was sent to abuse@
21:36 < rolla> I hops his account gets killed
21:37 < owl> rolla: which account?
21:38 < rolla> some script kiddies ISP account
21:38 < rolla> screw with my webserver will they
21:39 < owl> uff
21:44 < rolla> I am going throught my web server log and email accounts to their ISP's of their activite
21:48 < rolla> how can I find out the domain that owns a ip address range
21:50 < tcr> there are lists i think
21:50 < [anders]> hmm...
21:51 < rolla> wow one seems to be on cnn.com subnets :)
21:51 < rolla> I think it is time to get someone fired
21:52 < owl> *lol*
21:56 < rolla> :)
21:56 < rolla> I am on a rampage now
21:56 < owl> yes, seems so
21:57 < tcr> gn8 all. i'm gonna burn some cd and sleep then.
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22:00 < rolla> :)
22:05 < owl> yes, yes, yes!!! life is great *jumping_around*
22:07 < rolla> warum?
22:08 < owl> just because... hm. "you got mail" ;)))
22:08 < rolla> :p
22:10 * rolla getting these script kiddies is like playing wack-a-mole
22:11 < owl> wack-a-mole?
22:13 < rolla> yeah
22:14 < owl> what is that?
22:14 < rolla> a game at carnivals
22:14 < rolla> a board with a bunch of holes with a 'mole" in them
22:14 < owl> hm... never heard of it...
22:15 < rolla> they jump up at random and you are suppose to hit them with a mallet
22:15 < rolla> scoring points
22:15 < owl> hm. k.
22:16 < rolla> yeah it is dumb
22:16 < rolla> but it show a futileness of going after hackers
22:17 < owl> hmm.
22:30 < owl> gn8
22:31 < rolla> nacht
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22:42 < rolla> so quiet
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23:08 < d3mian> hae
23:15 < d3mian> dig @demian.homelinux.net <anyhost.com> any
23:15 < d3mian> does this work for u ?
23:16 < snyke> yes
23:16 < d3mian> thanx, DNS works fine then :)
23:16 < snyke> a bit slow
23:16 < snyke> ;; Total query time: 1536 msec
23:16 < d3mian> hehe, a ppp connection :(
23:17 < snyke> mine too
23:17 < snyke> ;)
23:17 < d3mian> :)
23:18 < snyke> hmmmm
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23:39 < d3mian> hi Parabull , Lorini
23:40 < Lorini> hey d3mian
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