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01:48 < ringo30> hmm why is there no /opt/licq/lib/licq/licq_qt-gui.so ?
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06:56 < blindcoder> oin
06:56 < blindcoder> moin
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09:16 < owl> wtf???
09:16 < owl> good morning
09:19 < blindcoder> moin owly
09:20 < owl> hi blindcoder
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11:22 < esden> hi all
11:23 < blindcoder> hi esden
11:23 < blindcoder> esden: ROCK was mentioned in the german LinuxUser again :)
11:25 < owl> hi esden
11:25 < esden> ohh ... that is cool
11:25 < esden> hi owl, blindcoder ... sbtw
11:25 < esden> blindcoder: in which context ?
11:26 < blindcoder> esden: the release of 1.5.20 was mentioned and that "the people from ROCK Linux didn't wait until the now year to ddeliver the nowest f their pre-stable Version 1.5.20"
11:26 < blindcoder> deliver the newest version of their pre-stable Version 1.5.20"
11:26 < blindcoder> the last line again due to too much spelling errors
11:27 < esden> aha ... hmm
11:27 < blindcoder> also Rolling ROCK Magazine was mentioned
11:28 < esden> that is cool ...... but I still have to write the articles ... *sigh*
11:28 < blindcoder> hehe :)
11:28 < blindcoder> and I have a bug in the libgli pachkage...
11:29 < blindcoder> loooks like a typo or similiar in package category
11:29 < esden> blindcoder: that was expectable ;-)
11:29 < blindcoder> I usually don't have Paranoia Checks enabled, so I didn't see it
11:29 < esden> so enable them!! and fix everything it spits
11:30 < blindcoder> It spits too much (duplicate files now make 70% of my .err files)
11:31 < owl> *aaaaaaaargh*
11:31 < blindcoder> owl: don't die here.
11:31 < owl> i do
11:32 < blindcoder> owl: No. If you want to die, go somewhere else.
11:33 < owl> to sun?
11:34 < blindcoder> esden: btw.: Palm Beach this Saturday will be postponed due to "too much" interest
11:34 < kasc> blindcoder: lpp doesnt work here
11:35 < blindcoder> kasc: why?
11:35 < blindcoder> kasc: or, how does it not work?
11:35 < kasc> dont know exactly, but it keeps flickering at boot up
11:36 < blindcoder> hmm... looks like your framebuffer isn't set up correctly
11:36 < kasc> either white large stripes or nothing at all
11:37 < kasc> i usually use the tdfxfb driver
11:38 < kasc> but i also tried to use the vesa driver
11:38 < blindcoder> hm... i don't know how to set that one up
11:38 < blindcoder> that is strange... You did insert a theme, didn't you?
11:40 < kasc> oh, there isnt a default theme?
11:40 < blindcoder> no
11:41 < kasc> well :)
11:41 < blindcoder> and the themes don't work out-of-the-box you have do tweak them just a bit
11:41 < blindcoder> Here's what you have to do:
11:41 < blindcoder> untar the theme you want to use
11:42 < blindcoder> create a dir (it extracts to the local dir) that will hold the theme
11:42 < blindcoder> move the "definitions" and the "linux_logo.h" into that file
11:43 < blindcoder> they have to be called this, maybe you need to rename them
11:44 < blindcoder> then edit the linux_logo.h and change the first "#if ... == 214" to a "#define ... 214" and remove all remaining lines with #
11:45 < blindcoder> then tar cfvz (the z is important) theme.tar.gz theme/
11:45 < blindcoder> and now you can use the script theme_install from lpp to install the theme and then recompile the kernel
11:45 < blindcoder> I know it's a bit dirty. I will clean this up asap
11:46 < blindcoder> the modification o linux_logo.h has to be made obsolete, but I haven't had time/motivation to look into this yet
11:47 < blindcoder> brb
11:50 < blindcoder> re
11:51 < kasc> can you give me the URL to the patch again? :)
11:52 < blindcoder> mom
11:53 < blindcoder> http://scavenger.homeip.net/~blindcoder/lpp-2420.patch.bz2
11:53 < kasc> thx
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11:54 < blindcoder> hi tcr
11:54 < tcr> moin all
11:57 < esden> blindcoder: that is very good that it is being postponed ... 
11:57 * -> esden has to go talking to an other guy now (getting the sources of MI >_<)
11:57 * -> esden cu l8er
11:59 < blindcoder> baba
12:15 < qubit_> hmm, i just googled and found out esden had problems building a dietlibc gcc ...
12:15 < qubit_> so do i ;)
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13:02 < tsa> moin.
13:02 < kasc_> still doesnt work :(
13:02 < kasc_> moin tsa
13:02 < kasc_> blindcoder: now it gives me an oops
13:03 < tsa> aah..nice - new hardware just arrived ;)
13:03 < owl> hi tsa
13:03 < owl> tsa: which hardware?
13:04 < tsa> sparcserver20
13:04 < tsa> 2x 150mhz ;)
13:04 < blindcoder> kasc_: oops(); hmm... strange
13:04 < owl> tsa: hehe.. have fun with them
13:05 < kasc_> tsa: how much does fun like that cost?
13:05 < tsa> kasc: 80 USD on ebay.com and 100 USD for shipping ;)
13:05 < tsa> still cheaper than buying it in .de
13:06 * blindcoder has to make an order on thinkgeek soon
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13:09 < ringo30> Is the package licq corrupted ?
13:09 < owl> NOOO!!! now the computer of my co-worker is playing this awful music again! without the coworker in front of it. i'm dying!
13:10 < tcr> turn your boxes louder then
13:10 < ringo30> owl: take a deep breth and think about something nice...
13:11 < owl> no. this pop-music sounds cats which are in great pain...
13:12 < ringo30> cool gimme name... I wanna play th@ too ...
13:12 < owl> *lol* are you in suicide-mood, ringo30 ?
13:13 < blindcoder> ringo30: depends on your definition of corrupted
13:13 < ringo30> hmm trying to expand my horizon ...
13:13 < owl> ringo30: then better listen to great music like "inscape - verbrannte welt" ;P
13:16 < ringo30> hmm I will have a peek @ it.
13:17 < owl> ringo30: not really?
13:19 < ringo30> hmm why not ? I am recompiling gift (daily routine) to get it.
13:19 < blindcoder> ringo30: what's your problem with licq?
13:20 < owl> or centericq
13:21 < ringo30> It doesnt make a dynamic module, needs -lXss, what is -lXss
13:21 < tcr> libXss *bg*
13:21 < ringo30> centericq. micq are all ok, ok I will recompile it.
13:21 < tcr> just google for libXss
13:24 < blindcoder> blindcoder@crazyhorse:~$ grep Xss /var/adm/flists/*
13:24 < blindcoder> /var/adm/flists/xfree86:xfree86: usr/X11R6/lib/libXss.a
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14:09 < blindcoder> hmm.. the fileutils people are not very respondive
14:11 < kasc_> anyone has xblast?
14:12 < ringo30> nope gimme location.
14:14 < ringo30> Cant install kasc_ ?
14:18 < kasc_> ringo30: i'm looking for other players ;)
14:18 < kasc_> www.xblast-center.com
14:18 < kasc_> something like that
14:18 < ringo30> downloaded
14:19 < kasc_> the TNT version?
14:21 < ringo30>    Xblast-2.6-Color
14:21 < kasc_> then i have to compile that, too. Dunno if they are compatible
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14:26 < ringo30> sri crashed the X-server..
14:27 < rolla> re
14:29 < kasc_> ringo30: i'd recommend the TNT version. the 2.6-Color needs some nasty workarounds to enable network games
14:29 < ringo30> ok !
14:51 < kasc_> does it work?
14:53 < ringo30> sri ...
14:54 < ringo30> There are so many diff files...
14:54 < ringo30> different
14:57 < kasc_> did you get the TNT sources for unix?
14:57 < ringo30> yep. Did it compile ?
14:57 < kasc_> it did here
14:58 < kasc_> you will also need the tarballs with the levels, the sounds and the images
14:58 < kasc_> well, it didnt compile all way through... it stopped somewhere while compiling the manpages
14:59 < ringo30> ok ! Here 2.
14:59 < kasc_> but the binary was created and thats all that counts ;)
15:13 < ringo30> works ... Finally ... ;-)
15:13 < ringo30> Had to put on some good MUSIC...
15:17 < kasc_> hehe
15:18 < kasc_> try to join a network game on shamans-den.homeip.net
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15:21 < kasc_> try again. had to adjust my firewall ;)
15:22 < tcr> re
15:25 < ringo30> kasc ? Dunno what to do ... im am a lUseR
15:28 < kasc_> is it running?
15:28 < ringo30> yep
15:29 < kasc_> click on join network game
15:29 < kasc_> then choose what half of your keyboard you're gonna use
15:29 < kasc_> after that click on connect...
15:30 < kasc_> in the hostname field put the hostname i gave you
15:31 < kasc_> then click on connect
15:31 < kasc_> and hopefully it should connect here
15:33 < kasc_> does it work?
15:35 < ringo30> it says waiting for other clients...
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15:49 < ringo30> kasc: shamans-den.homeip.net port 1618 ?
15:52 < kasc_> 16168
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15:59 < ringo30> sri giving up ...
16:00 < kasc_> :(
16:04 < ringo30> hostPlayer[1][0] = "Olli@213.51.149.58:33919" "Olli"
16:09 < ringo30> sri ...
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16:29 < esden> hi ho
16:30 < owl> re esden
16:31 < esden> re owlita ;-)
16:31 < tsa> hehe
16:31 < tsa> moin esden
16:31 < tsa> esden: remember the sparcserver20 on ebay.com?
16:32 < esden> uhhmm ... yes ... I think so ...
16:32 < tsa> guess what arrived here today.. ;)
16:32 < blindcoder> re esden
16:33 < blindcoder> esden: will you be at bitz today?
16:33 < esden> blindcoder: nope ...
16:33 < esden> blindcoder: I am still in munich ... why ?
16:33 < blindcoder> esden: sad... I wanted to introduce lpp there today
16:33 < esden> blindcoder: will be in IN tomorrow ...
16:33 < esden> blindcoder: grr... you need a digicam !!!
16:34 < blindcoder> esden: I can postpone it until tomorrow or Sunday if yfou want to be with me then :)
16:34 < esden> or even better a digicamcoder ;-)
16:34 < esden> yes I want to see it ! 
16:36 < blindcoder> esden: my granpa has one, but it is not set up yet :)
16:37 < esden> *sigh*
16:37 < esden> but I got the code of the MI today *happy*
16:38 < blindcoder> MI?
16:38 < blindcoder> esden: he said he needs the cam to let me inherit it :)
16:40 < esden> blindcoder: that is fine ... 
16:40 < blindcoder> esden: hehe
16:40 < esden> MI ::= "Maschiene fuer Informatikausbildung"
16:40 < blindcoder> esden: what is MI?
16:40 < esden> it is a emulator of a machine ... 
16:40 < esden> it is based on the vax architecture
16:41 < esden> it can have one ... or 4 processors ;-)
16:41 < esden> we use it in TUM to learn programming assembler
16:41 < esden> it is really sweet 
16:41 * tcr watching star trek - tng
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16:42 < esden> tcr: have fun
16:42 < tcr> kabel1 ;)
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16:42 < esden> blindcoder: the problem is that the core (the simulator itself) is written in ansi c ... and the gui is written in java ...
16:43 < tcr> lol
16:43 < esden> and you can get from the internet only the binary version of the simulator 
16:43 < esden> and that only for win32
16:43 < blindcoder> urgs, that sucks >_<
16:43 < blindcoder> and you got the source for it today?
16:43 < esden> I went to the guy that wrote the emulator and said that i want the code or his life ;-)
16:44 < esden> no he has only written the gui ..
16:44 < esden> the guys that wrote the simulator are probably already dead ... it is long time since they were on TUM ;-)
16:45 < esden> I want first of all clean up the code
16:45 < blindcoder> i c
16:46 < esden> make it compilable ... and make it usable in the standards of GNU ...
16:46 < esden> then I will either port the whole stuff to java
16:46 < blindcoder> make it a ROCK package :)
16:47 < esden> or to c++ ... and make it usable on linux, solaris, windows
16:47 < esden> yes sure I will make it a ROCK package ... what do YOU think ;-)
16:47 < tcr> omg kabel1 sucks !!!! commercials just after the "introduction" (vorspann in german)
16:47 < blindcoder> I DON'T think
16:48 < blindcoder> esden: C++!!!!!!!
16:48 < esden> I then make a page ... and say that MI is a part of ROCK ... and that the easiest way to use MI on your own machine is to install ROCK ;-)
16:48 < blindcoder> tcr: that's harmless. Just wait until the proposed law from the EU gets into actiion
16:48 < tcr> ?
16:48 < blindcoder> or rather, "all commercial laws are being dropped"
16:48 < tcr> hah
16:48 < blindcoder> like one commercial every minute would be perfectly legal
16:49 < tcr> i'm actually more worried about the tcpa issue
16:49 < blindcoder> me too, since I don'tmawn a Television, but only a 'puter (and not even a TV-Card)
16:49 < blindcoder> don't own
16:49 < tcr> :->
16:50 < tcr> hmm. mom!
16:50 < blindcoder> dad!
16:50 < blindcoder> :)
16:51 < tcr> your home certainly looks like http://www.w00nf.org/fun/home.jpg
16:51 < tcr> notice the really k00l chair
16:54 < blindcoder> yeah, something like that... just without the light bulb :)
16:56 < owl> going home
16:56 < owl> bye
16:56 < blindcoder> okay, /me now going home
16:56 < blindcoder> bye bye
16:56 < tcr> cu
17:13 * rolla dances
17:16 * tcr animates rolla
17:17 < rolla> :)
17:17 < rolla> I think I got all my perl working :)
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18:04 < rolla> it is dead here
18:30 < esden> re
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18:44 < ringo30> rollla dead ?
18:45 < ringo30> rolla: dead ?
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19:11 < rolla> ringo30:
19:11 < rolla> ?
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19:49 < owl> re
19:49 < ringo30> what is this with re ?
19:49 < owl> ringo30: ???
19:53 < ringo30> Im just curious sometimes you type re why ?
19:53 < owl> cuz i was away then and returned
19:53 < ringo30> OK !
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19:54 < rolla> owl:
19:54 < owl> hi rolla.
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21:18 < tcr> re
21:19 < owl> re tcr
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21:34 < Satg> Hello People !!!!
21:34 < tcr> hi
21:34 < owl> re
21:34 < owl> hi all
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21:49 < tcr> re rola
21:49 < tcr> maisenhe?
21:49 < rolla> yeah username
21:55 * tcr brb
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21:57 < tcr> re
22:22 < owl> gn8
22:30 * tcr gn8 all
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22:41 < armijn> re
22:41 < rolla> re armijn
22:42 < armijn> hi rolla
22:42 < armijn> anything exciting happening @ ROCK?
22:43 < fake> sure
22:43 < armijn> like?
22:43 < fake> great steps forward at the mips front ;)
22:45 < armijn> oh yeah...mips...who cares :)))))
22:46 < fake> i care :P
22:46 < armijn> heheheh
22:46 < armijn> I just downloaded Aurora Sparc Linux
22:46 < armijn> I will burn the ISOs next week
22:47 < armijn> I will reinstall my Ultra...
22:47 < armijn> so I finally can get rid of this Debian/ROCK hybrid
22:47 < fake> Aurora was this distro using parts of old rock-code, wasn't it?
22:48 < armijn> ehr
22:48 < armijn> no
22:49 < armijn> it is based upon RedHat 7.3
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22:49 < fake> oh, i wasn't sure
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22:49 < fake> hi Lorini
22:49 < armijn> heh, too late
22:50 < fake> armijn: clifford once found a project that was only for sparc, too, where he showed me 1:1 copied code from rock 1.3 ot s/th. just funny ;)
22:50 < armijn> hmm, there aren't too many distro's for sparc
22:51 < armijn> but aurora is really based upon redhat...still even some redhat logos in some programs ;-)
22:51 < fake> well, whatever. i just wanted to say something half-way intelligent
22:52 < fake> (sparc.... who cares?)
22:52 < tsa> <-
22:52 < fake> grr...
22:53 < fake> (fall mir nur in den ruecken... ;)
22:55 < armijn> heh
22:57 < tsa> sparc hardware is nice...
22:57 < armijn> yeah...but Linux doesn't run that smoothly on it
22:58 < armijn> but, to be honest, what does run Linux smoothly?
22:58 < fake> mips! *g*
22:59 < fake> i like usparc better than sparc ;)
22:59 < snyke> yeah
22:59 < snyke> http://eros.bingo-ev.de/webcam/
23:01 < tsa> doesn't really look like eros to me..
23:03 < fake> snyke: who's that guy with the ugly white hat?
23:03 < armijn> heh, no X here :)
23:03 < snyke> me!!!
23:03 < armijn> but I don;t think I miss much in this case
23:03 < snyke> GRR
23:03 < snyke> that isn't a white hat
23:03 < snyke> it's a strohhut
23:04 < fake> oh. and you are using windows XP. i can smell it.
23:04 < armijn> even worse
23:05 < owl> *grrrrrrrrrrr*
23:06 < owl> re
23:06 < owl> someonme knowswhat happend with rock-1.5's-kernel?
23:07 < fake> he was made admiral.
23:07 < owl> he's failing in stage 3...
23:08 < armijn> if it's not on sparc, I know nothing...
23:08 < owl> armijn: it's on ia32
23:11 < armijn> owl: then go away :)
23:11 < armijn> ;-)
23:11 < owl> it's because patches (for 2.4.19) are failing... (cuz it's 2.4.20 kernel) but why  isn't that corrected until now? i also had the same prob  about one week ago..l.
23:11 < fake> owl: ask huebi(tm)
23:12 < owl> armijn: eh! wanna bekicked to /dev/hell?
23:12 < owl> fake: *hmpf* i even am not sure if he is alive
23:13 < fake> owl: maybe he never was alive? maybe he walways was mathilda's puppet?
23:14 < owl> n.c.
23:14 < armijn> owl: what if I'm already there?
23:14 < armijn> owl: after all, I listen to metal...
23:15 < fake> what if there is a spoon?
23:15 < armijn> there is a spoon?!?
23:15 < armijn> aaaaah!
23:15 < tsa> armijn: you seem to have some experience with sparc hardware...
23:15 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has left #rocklinux ()
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23:15 < fake> *lol*
23:15 < tsa> hehe
23:15 < armijn> owl: but you can remove these patches yourself, right? after all, you are a big girl now...
23:17 < tsa> hm..will a ss20 be able to run sol9 or is it too slow?
23:17 < fake> should work
23:17 < owl> armijn: might i could... but it would have no sense. cuz  i need a iso tomorrow, 10 a.m. and stage 3 - stage 5 woun't compoleted until then, ig uess
23:18 < armijn> tsa: don't do it! even solaris 8 is a pain to run on an ss20
23:18 < armijn> owl: just provide a minimal install then...
23:18 < rolla> who here can help me with a little perl?
23:18 * fake liked his sol8 ss20 at work...
23:18 < tsa> armijn: hm..i've heard sol9 is faster than 8..
23:18 -!- Be-El [be-el@pD9525811.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
23:18 < armijn> tsa: could be, but it's both not funny to run...
23:18 < Be-El> hi ppl
23:19 < tsa> hm..
23:19 < tsa> i'll give it a try, not having anything else available currently
23:19 < owl> armijn: nope. no install. no iso. nothing. but the sources. if he wants them...
23:19 < fake> no linux? ;)
23:19 < tsa> no.
23:20 < armijn> owl: ah, it's for a special someone?
23:20 < fake> owl: then i'd fix the source
23:20 < owl> armijn: how do you mean? ;)
23:20 < armijn> fake: Linux on sparc32 is a bit ehr...not very stable...
23:20 < armijn> fake: 2.4 runs most of the time, but is not officially supported
23:21 < tsa> i'd rather eat the box than install linux on it..
23:21 < fake> armijn: i have that debian her on my ss5 and i encountered no problems up to now... what is wrong?
23:21 * Be-El hands tsa salt and pepper
23:21 < owl> fake: but what for? it's almost impossible to compoile the stages until tomorrow morning
23:21 < armijn> owl: well, some people give chococlates, other give flowers, maybe you give ROCK
23:21 < armijn> fake: ehr, no maintainer?
23:21 < armijn> although people are picking it up now again
23:22 < owl> armijn: *lol* no, no, no
23:22 < fake> owl: sou can give him sources that will comple?
23:22 < fake> armijn: yeah i noticed that, too ;)
23:23 < armijn> "because I really love you, here's a ROCK CD"
23:23 < armijn> "I baked it myself"
23:23 < tsa> hehe
23:23 < owl> fake: yeah. but he has access to inet... "do it by yourself, man"
23:23 < owl> armijn: pah :P
23:23 < armijn> owl: that's not a very nice thing to say...so unpersonal
23:23 < tsa> owl: he has you because he has already done it himself for too long...
23:24 < armijn> so, anyone coming over to FOSDEM in two weeks?
23:24 < owl> tsa: he's using debian...
23:24 < tsa> he's using owl, too..
23:24 < owl> ... and he hasn't me
23:25 * owl 's using a sword to kill tsa -NOW
23:26 < armijn> who's using owl?
23:27 < armijn> *silence*
23:28 < armijn> owl is probably executing "sword --kill tsa"
23:28 < Be-El> yeap...and the call is blocking
23:28 < owl> armijn: yeah. forgot it.
23:28 < Be-El> let's do a luser tsa ;-)
23:28 < armijn> zombie process...
23:29 < armijn> owl: but who's using debian?
23:29 < owl> armijn: a friend of mine
23:29 < fake> owl's beloved one.
23:29 < tsa> Be-El: i'd prefer nonblocking i/o
23:30 < owl> fake: my beloved one is called "ancoras" - and it's my notebook
23:30 < fake> tsa: shut up, zombie.
23:30 * Be-El reapes tsa
23:30 < armijn> fake: beloved one?
23:31 < armijn> awwww, how sweet, owl's got a boyfriend :)
23:31 < armijn> she's finally growing up!
23:31 < owl> armijn: yeahl.ö
23:31 * owl hugs ancoras *kiss*
23:31 < armijn> and ancoras runs debian?
23:32 < owl> nope. on ancoras there is rocklinux installed...
23:32 < tsa> i guess it just panic()'ed..
23:32 < armijn> now I'm confused...
23:32 < owl> *lol*
23:32 < owl> ancoras = my sweet, beloved notebook
23:32 < armijn> first it is said that your beloved one runs debian and now he runs ROCK, even though you didn't have time to finish that build!
23:33 < Be-El> armijn: maybe it's bisexual^Wdual-boot
23:33 < owl> no, no. no
23:34 < tsa> windows ME (masochist edition)?
23:34 < owl> for sure not
23:34 < Be-El> windows XP (eXtended Pain) ?
23:34 < owl> no.
23:35 < armijn> owl: you women are so confusing...
23:35 < Be-El> windows CE-ME-NT ??
23:35 < owl> armijn: why?
23:35 < armijn> that's why hardly any women are techies...
23:35 < fake> btw: /me is running ROCK Linux 1.7-snapshot (2003/01/22)
23:36 < armijn> owl: well, you're contradicting yourself (first debian, then rock, etc.)
23:36 < tsa> strange..always thought fake was human..
23:36 < armijn> ssh fake
23:36 < tsa> poweroff, please ;)
23:36 < armijn> finger @fake
23:37 < tsa> urghs.
23:37 < tsa> no, i wouldn't do _that_
23:37 < fake> armijn: pervert dutch guy! *slap*
23:37 < armijn> ah, I guess he's just faking...
23:37 < armijn> ouch!
23:37 < armijn> if it ain't Dutch, it ain't much!
23:40 < armijn> so...no one coming to FOSDEM...
23:43 * tsa not - no time..
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