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00:15 < tsa> hi
00:15 < owl> hi tsa
00:27 < owl> gn8
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03:08 < tsa> n8
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09:24 < tcr> moin all
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11:10 < tcr> th: ping
11:23 < snyke> tcr: Destination host unreachable
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11:40 < holyolli> moin
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12:38 < tcr> moin chaosmaster
12:38 < chaosmaster> guten morgen ...
12:39 < tcr> great destructive nick ;)
12:39 < chaosmaster> thanks!
12:39 < chaosmaster> sorry, forget to talk english here ...
12:39 < tcr> best would be to add a 666 anywhere :->
12:40 < chaosmaster> I'm NOT that bad! most time }:)
12:41 < holyolli> hi tcr, chaosmaster
12:41 < chaosmaster> sending greetings to holyolli
12:42 < holyolli> can anyone explain me, what wire transfer is? (it's a payment method...) something like 'überweisung'?
12:42 < chaosmaster> never heard of that - where did you see it?
12:42 < holyolli> on ebay.com ;)
12:42 < holyolli> 'Buyers can pay by wire transfer'
12:44 < chaosmaster> I know of a transfer protocol over water, but how the f$§% to transfer money over wire?!
12:44 < holyolli> *fg*
12:45 < holyolli> hm. it's simply 'überweisung'....gnarf...and i think sending money from .de to .us is rather expensive
12:45 < chaosmaster> you would pay more for the transfer, as your goods are worth
12:45 < holyolli> ack.
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12:57 < ringo30> hi all(e)!
12:57 < chaosmaster> hello ringo
12:57 * tcr is trying to make his console utf-8 compatible
12:57 < holyolli> hi ringo
12:58 < ringo30> just installed alsa ... Fun, @ least I have some noise again.
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13:11 < tcr> aaah euro sign at prompt rules
13:11 < chaosmaster> :)
13:12 < tcr> though not really utf-8 compatible
13:12 < tcr> yet!
13:13 < chaosmaster> some time ago I played a little with Euro-compatibility in dRock and was some kind of successful
13:14 < tcr> echo -e 'set meta-flag on\nset convert-meta off\nset output-meta on' >> ~/.inputrc ; loadkeys /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwertz/de-latin1-nodeadkeys.map.gz ; kbd_mode -u; unicode_start; setfont /usr/share/consolechars/lat9w-12.psfu.gz -u /usr/share/unimaps/lat9w.uni
13:14 < tcr> then try to press altgr + e
13:15 < owl> *yawn* good morning
13:16 < tcr> hmm
13:17 < chaosmaster> yes, that was not everything .... displaying != input and so i had to make some more tricks AFAIR
13:18 < chaosmaster> and X11 is another afair :)
13:19 < ringo30> morgen owl
13:19 < tcr> input seems to be also utf-8 compliant
13:19 < owl> hi ringo30
13:19 < chaosmaster> I remember, some of the latin fonts has displaced some graph chars
13:19 < tcr> since i'm able to properly write äöü in vim with set encoding=utf-8
13:19 < chaosmaster> i think, i didnt use utf-8, but iso-15
13:19 < tcr> but bash has apparantly a bug with handling multibytes characters
13:19 < tcr> well it's rather readline
13:19 < chaosmaster> that was it..
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13:23 < tcr> hmm it seems not to work properly in all programms
13:23 < tcr> export LESSCHARSET=utf-8; man bash produces many '?' within the manpage
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13:26 < chaosmaster> yes, i remember - several progs needs some more workaround for supporting utf, but iso-15 is rather eesy as its just another fontset
13:27 < tcr> well I'm not finished yet ;)
13:27 < tcr> btw. utf-8 support could be some $SOME_TERM_I_DO_NOT_REMEMBER in rock ;)
13:28 < chaosmaster> you mean --with-some-utf8-hack :)
13:29 < tcr> some kind of target
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13:30 < freed> hi all
13:30 < holyolli> hi freed
13:30 < tcr> moin
13:30 < freed> na alles schoen bei euch?
13:30 < chaosmaster> jo...
13:32 < tcr> hmm, i see i have to hack my programmable completion function for ./configure, it's broken in some way *hrm*
13:34 < chaosmaster> your own or do you use the fm-announced one?
13:35 < tcr> i think i copied it once
13:37 < tcr> hmm
13:38 < chaosmaster> a friend of mine just doomed 2 installations by copying glibc onto his running system :)
13:38 < chaosmaster> twice!
13:40 < blindcoder> chaosmaster: i did so, too. Worked like a charm
13:40 < owl> hi blindcoder
13:40 < blindcoder> hi owl\
13:42 < chaosmaster> but somehow, his system got a kernel panic .... I dont know why
13:42 < blindcoder> hmm... strange
13:45 < tcr> hm
13:46 < tcr> has anyone here a clue about composing two keys to one?
13:46 < tcr> i wanna have à etc even with -nodeadkeys
13:48 < chaosmaster> yes, they have to be entered into .... ähm, inputrc?!
13:48 < tcr> hmm? i put keycode 125 = Compose into my keymap
13:48 < tcr> 125 = the left windows button
13:49 < chaosmaster> thats not enough - you need to specify which keys result in what composing
13:49 < tcr> well, that should be done by include "compose.latin1"
13:49 < tcr> but ..
13:49 < tcr> that file seems not to take care ..
13:55 < blindcoder> *LOOOL*
13:55 * blindcoder now already getting japanese spam-mails :)
13:57 * tcr brb
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13:57 < chaosmaster> apropos include compose.*
13:58 < chaosmaster> can remember some kbd versions didn't like the *.gz files and didnt want to include them - or another problem was the relative path
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14:05 < tcr> compiling patched bash now
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14:13 < chaosmaster> http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/709/
14:13 < chaosmaster> did anybody of you thought of this problem in rock?
14:14 < chaosmaster> I mean largefile support ....
14:14 < tcr> nooe
14:14 < tcr> nope
14:15 < chaosmaster> as I dont use large files and dont have a 64bit capable hardware, I'm not really interested, but some of you have aplhas, sparcs and so on ....
14:17 < holyolli> i didn't encounter this problem at the moment (with alpha)
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16:23 < tcr> re
16:23 < owl> re tcr
16:36 < zer0_o> re
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18:24 < th> tcr: pong
18:25 < tcr> hrm. hi th.. i solved my provlem myself
18:25 < th> good ;)
18:25 < th> sorry for delay
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18:33 < tcr> re holyolli
18:36 < holyolli> hi tcr
18:39 < owl> hi holyolli
18:40 < holyolli> hi owl
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19:40 < demian> hi
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20:19 < holyolli> re
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20:58 < holyolli> silly question, but where and how are the file-permissions (e.g. /dev/sound) adapted, when a user logs in with gdm?
21:01 < owl> vim /etc/devfsd.conf ?
21:01 < owl> # Sets the read/write/execute permissions to owner "root" and group "audio"
21:01 < owl> REGISTER ^sound/.* PERMISSIONS root.audio 775
21:01 < owl> this one?
21:01 < holyolli> hm. not really. its done when the user logs in (with gdm) and the xserver is started
21:02 < holyolli> (or at least the group audio must be assigned to that user)
21:03 < owl> hm. k.
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21:28 < th> how to install an old kde1?
21:33 < th> can't find old kdelibs-1.1.2
21:33 < th> (.tar.gz)
21:36 < SMP> ugh
21:37 < th> hmmm found a file with that name... let's have a look
21:40 < SMP> ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/distfiles/kde/
21:40 < SMP> has all the other old packages, too
21:41 < SMP> some directly under .../distfiles/
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21:45 < ringo30> silly qwestion from me again... How do I start gnome ? exec ...
21:46 < th> SMP: yea that's where i get it from
21:46 < th> ringo30: gnome is no program to start
21:46 < th> IIRC
21:47 < SMP> exec gnome-session
21:47 < ringo30> SMP: done that it crashes ... I am back to the drawing bord. hrmpf
21:48 < SMP> use gnome-wm as windowmanager then
21:48 < SMP> no session support, but needs that anyway...
21:51 < ringo30> SMP: thanks ... !
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21:52 < IBM> what is rocklinux ?
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21:58 < th> IBM: nothing for people with lack of time
22:00 < ringo30> th: ;-)
22:04 < ringo30> s/;/:
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22:09 < huebi> Moin
22:10 < th> HUEBI?
22:10 < th> du lebst?
22:10 < huebi> th: Jo, internet geht jetzt mal wieder. Und der Ischias klemmt auch nicht mehr ganz so sclimm
22:11 < th> Ischias?
22:12 < huebi> jo, dicker nerv vom Ruecken in die Beine...
22:12 < th> ahso :-/
22:19 < owl> re
22:19 < owl> hi huebi
22:20 < huebi> moin owl :-)
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22:34 < owl> *grrr* this stupid stuff... it can't be real. *argh*
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22:50 < IPunto> Hello, Hola ...
22:51 < IPunto> Can anyone help me for getting up a CVS server?
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