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--- Log opened Sun Jan 26 00:00:36 2003 --- Day changed Sun Jan 26 2003 00:03 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc2-stoc3-4-cust133.midd.cable.ntl.com] has quit ("leaving") 00:03 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc2-stoc3-4-cust133.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #rocklinux 00:14 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082BF68.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:15 < tsa> hi 00:15 < owl> hi tsa 00:27 < owl> gn8 00:27 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813E6C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 01:38 -!- bluefire [bluefire@p50816C3D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 02:01 -!- acm_scl [~kiki@200.72.213.181] has joined #rocklinux 03:08 < tsa> n8 03:08 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082BF68.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("*plopp*") 03:44 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Der Sinn des Lebens ist die Suche nach eben jenem.") 03:47 -!- bluefire [bluefire@p50816C3D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 05:13 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@62.99.178.159] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05:23 -!- hackbard_ [~hackbard@p50807CCE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:40 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@p50807D5B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:23 -!- acm_scl [~kiki@200.72.213.181] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:21 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813B06.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:24 < tcr> moin all 10:28 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD958F6F1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:46 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958F2CF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10:47 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@62.99.178.159] has joined #rocklinux 11:10 < tcr> th: ping 11:23 < snyke> tcr: Destination host unreachable 11:23 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 11:35 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc2-stoc3-4-cust133.midd.cable.ntl.com] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:40 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-178-53.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:40 < holyolli> moin 11:45 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813B06.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 11:51 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p5081381B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:38 -!- chaosmaster [~niko@nfilus.home.cs.tu-berlin.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:38 < tcr> moin chaosmaster 12:38 < chaosmaster> guten morgen ... 12:39 < tcr> great destructive nick ;) 12:39 < chaosmaster> thanks! 12:39 < chaosmaster> sorry, forget to talk english here ... 12:39 < tcr> best would be to add a 666 anywhere :-> 12:40 < chaosmaster> I'm NOT that bad! most time }:) 12:41 < holyolli> hi tcr, chaosmaster 12:41 < chaosmaster> sending greetings to holyolli 12:42 < holyolli> can anyone explain me, what wire transfer is? (it's a payment method...) something like 'überweisung'? 12:42 < chaosmaster> never heard of that - where did you see it? 12:42 < holyolli> on ebay.com ;) 12:42 < holyolli> 'Buyers can pay by wire transfer' 12:44 < chaosmaster> I know of a transfer protocol over water, but how the f$§% to transfer money over wire?! 12:44 < holyolli> *fg* 12:45 < holyolli> hm. it's simply 'überweisung'....gnarf...and i think sending money from .de to .us is rather expensive 12:45 < chaosmaster> you would pay more for the transfer, as your goods are worth 12:45 < holyolli> ack. 12:57 -!- ringo30 [ringo78@xs2.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 12:57 < ringo30> hi all(e)! 12:57 < chaosmaster> hello ringo 12:57 * tcr is trying to make his console utf-8 compatible 12:57 < holyolli> hi ringo 12:58 < ringo30> just installed alsa ... Fun, @ least I have some noise again. 13:09 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("Serverwechsel") 13:09 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:11 < tcr> aaah euro sign at prompt rules 13:11 < chaosmaster> :) 13:12 < tcr> though not really utf-8 compatible 13:12 < tcr> yet! 13:13 < chaosmaster> some time ago I played a little with Euro-compatibility in dRock and was some kind of successful 13:14 < tcr> echo -e 'set meta-flag on\nset convert-meta off\nset output-meta on' >> ~/.inputrc ; loadkeys /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwertz/de-latin1-nodeadkeys.map.gz ; kbd_mode -u; unicode_start; setfont /usr/share/consolechars/lat9w-12.psfu.gz -u /usr/share/unimaps/lat9w.uni 13:14 < tcr> then try to press altgr + e 13:15 < owl> *yawn* good morning 13:16 < tcr> hmm 13:17 < chaosmaster> yes, that was not everything .... displaying != input and so i had to make some more tricks AFAIR 13:18 < chaosmaster> and X11 is another afair :) 13:19 < ringo30> morgen owl 13:19 < tcr> input seems to be also utf-8 compliant 13:19 < owl> hi ringo30 13:19 < chaosmaster> I remember, some of the latin fonts has displaced some graph chars 13:19 < tcr> since i'm able to properly write äöü in vim with set encoding=utf-8 13:19 < chaosmaster> i think, i didnt use utf-8, but iso-15 13:19 < tcr> but bash has apparantly a bug with handling multibytes characters 13:19 < tcr> well it's rather readline 13:19 < chaosmaster> that was it.. 13:23 -!- kasc [~kasc@p509099FA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:23 < tcr> hmm it seems not to work properly in all programms 13:23 < tcr> export LESSCHARSET=utf-8; man bash produces many '?' within the manpage 13:25 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090A548.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:26 < chaosmaster> yes, i remember - several progs needs some more workaround for supporting utf, but iso-15 is rather eesy as its just another fontset 13:27 < tcr> well I'm not finished yet ;) 13:27 < tcr> btw. utf-8 support could be some $SOME_TERM_I_DO_NOT_REMEMBER in rock ;) 13:28 < chaosmaster> you mean --with-some-utf8-hack :) 13:29 < tcr> some kind of target 13:30 -!- freed [~chuck@pD950173E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:30 < freed> hi all 13:30 < holyolli> hi freed 13:30 < tcr> moin 13:30 < freed> na alles schoen bei euch? 13:30 < chaosmaster> jo... 13:32 < tcr> hmm, i see i have to hack my programmable completion function for ./configure, it's broken in some way *hrm* 13:34 < chaosmaster> your own or do you use the fm-announced one? 13:35 < tcr> i think i copied it once 13:37 < tcr> hmm 13:38 < chaosmaster> a friend of mine just doomed 2 installations by copying glibc onto his running system :) 13:38 < chaosmaster> twice! 13:40 < blindcoder> chaosmaster: i did so, too. Worked like a charm 13:40 < owl> hi blindcoder 13:40 < blindcoder> hi owl\ 13:42 < chaosmaster> but somehow, his system got a kernel panic .... I dont know why 13:42 < blindcoder> hmm... strange 13:45 < tcr> hm 13:46 < tcr> has anyone here a clue about composing two keys to one? 13:46 < tcr> i wanna have à etc even with -nodeadkeys 13:48 < chaosmaster> yes, they have to be entered into .... ähm, inputrc?! 13:48 < tcr> hmm? i put keycode 125 = Compose into my keymap 13:48 < tcr> 125 = the left windows button 13:49 < chaosmaster> thats not enough - you need to specify which keys result in what composing 13:49 < tcr> well, that should be done by include "compose.latin1" 13:49 < tcr> but .. 13:49 < tcr> that file seems not to take care .. 13:55 < blindcoder> *LOOOL* 13:55 * blindcoder now already getting japanese spam-mails :) 13:57 * tcr brb 13:57 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p5081381B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 13:57 < chaosmaster> apropos include compose.* 13:58 < chaosmaster> can remember some kbd versions didn't like the *.gz files and didnt want to include them - or another problem was the relative path 14:00 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E497D0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:03 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc2-stoc3-4-cust133.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #rocklinux 14:05 < tcr> compiling patched bash now 14:11 -!- ringo30 [ringo78@xs2.xs4all.nl] has quit ("leaving") 14:13 < chaosmaster> https://freshmeat.net/articles/view/709/ 14:13 < chaosmaster> did anybody of you thought of this problem in rock? 14:14 < chaosmaster> I mean largefile support .... 14:14 < tcr> nooe 14:14 < tcr> nope 14:15 < chaosmaster> as I dont use large files and dont have a 64bit capable hardware, I'm not really interested, but some of you have aplhas, sparcs and so on .... 14:17 < holyolli> i didn't encounter this problem at the moment (with alpha) 14:28 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E497D0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 15:01 -!- freed [~chuck@pD950173E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("I like core dumps") 15:04 -!- chaosmaster [~niko@nfilus.home.cs.tu-berlin.de] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 16:04 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9E1CBDD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:16 -!- ringo30 [ringo78@xs2.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 16:19 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-ls-6-2-dialup-147.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 16:22 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E49898.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:23 < tcr> re 16:23 < owl> re tcr 16:36 < zer0_o> re 16:38 -!- Lorini [~andrea@p3EE218C2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:38 -!- Lorini [~andrea@p3EE218C2.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux ("Angels are bright still, though the brightest fell.") 16:48 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E49898.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:43 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@62.99.178.159] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18:00 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p508136A0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:08 -!- rolla [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit ("leaving") 18:24 < th> tcr: pong 18:25 < tcr> hrm. hi th.. i solved my provlem myself 18:25 < th> good ;) 18:25 < th> sorry for delay 18:30 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-178-53.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 18:32 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-178-53.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:33 < tcr> re holyolli 18:36 < holyolli> hi tcr 18:39 < owl> hi holyolli 18:40 < holyolli> hi owl 18:46 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc2-stoc3-4-cust133.midd.cable.ntl.com] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:46 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc2-stoc3-4-cust36.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #rocklinux 19:10 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 19:11 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:13 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 19:14 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:19 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p508136A0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 19:29 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958DCA1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:40 -!- demian [~hdw_user@196.40.64.235] has joined #rocklinux 19:40 < demian> hi 19:41 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-ls-6-2-dialup-147.freesurf.ch] has quit () 19:53 -!- demian [~hdw_user@196.40.64.235] has quit ("leaving") 20:10 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-178-53.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit ("X-Chat: its magically delicious!") 20:19 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-178-53.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:19 < holyolli> re 20:22 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958DCA1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 20:29 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 20:42 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:44 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 20:44 -!- snyke [~snyke@62.245.214.132] has joined #rocklinux 20:51 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-zh-24-1-dialup-6.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 20:53 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-zh-24-1-dialup-6.freesurf.ch] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 20:58 < holyolli> silly question, but where and how are the file-permissions (e.g. /dev/sound) adapted, when a user logs in with gdm? 21:01 < owl> vim /etc/devfsd.conf ? 21:01 < owl> # Sets the read/write/execute permissions to owner "root" and group "audio" 21:01 < owl> REGISTER ^sound/.* PERMISSIONS root.audio 775 21:01 < owl> this one? 21:01 < holyolli> hm. not really. its done when the user logs in (with gdm) and the xserver is started 21:02 < holyolli> (or at least the group audio must be assigned to that user) 21:03 < owl> hm. k. 21:07 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-178-53.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit ("X-Chat: Showering in your clothes shows you're crazy. Showering nude shows your nuts.") 21:28 < th> how to install an old kde1? 21:33 < th> can't find old kdelibs-1.1.2 21:33 < th> (.tar.gz) 21:36 < SMP> ugh 21:37 < th> hmmm found a file with that name... let's have a look 21:40 < SMP> ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/distfiles/kde/ 21:40 < SMP> has all the other old packages, too 21:41 < SMP> some directly under .../distfiles/ 21:44 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p508027F3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:45 < ringo30> silly qwestion from me again... How do I start gnome ? exec ... 21:46 < th> SMP: yea that's where i get it from 21:46 < th> ringo30: gnome is no program to start 21:46 < th> IIRC 21:47 < SMP> exec gnome-session 21:47 < ringo30> SMP: done that it crashes ... I am back to the drawing bord. hrmpf 21:48 < SMP> use gnome-wm as windowmanager then 21:48 < SMP> no session support, but needs that anyway... 21:51 < ringo30> SMP: thanks ... ! 21:52 -!- IBM [~IBM@adsl-65-67-246-208.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:52 < IBM> what is rocklinux ? 21:58 -!- IBM [~IBM@adsl-65-67-246-208.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 21:58 < th> IBM: nothing for people with lack of time 22:00 < ringo30> th: ;-) 22:04 < ringo30> s/;/: 22:08 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-zh-20-2-dialup-192.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 22:09 -!- huebi [huebi@rocklinux.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:09 < huebi> Moin 22:10 < th> HUEBI? 22:10 < th> du lebst? 22:10 < huebi> th: Jo, internet geht jetzt mal wieder. Und der Ischias klemmt auch nicht mehr ganz so sclimm 22:11 < th> Ischias? 22:12 < huebi> jo, dicker nerv vom Ruecken in die Beine... 22:12 < th> ahso :-/ 22:19 < owl> re 22:19 < owl> hi huebi 22:20 < huebi> moin owl :-) 22:28 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-zh-20-2-dialup-192.freesurf.ch] has quit ("i go beeing depressed..") 22:34 < owl> *grrr* this stupid stuff... it can't be real. *argh* 22:50 -!- IPunto [~none@eu74-221.clientes.euskaltel.es] has joined #rocklinux 22:50 < IPunto> Hello, Hola ... 22:51 < IPunto> Can anyone help me for getting up a CVS server? 22:59 -!- IPunto [~none@eu74-221.clientes.euskaltel.es] has left #rocklinux () 23:11 -!- ringo30 [ringo78@xs2.xs4all.nl] has quit ("leaving") --- Log closed Mon Jan 27 00:00:54 2003