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00:04 < owl> gn8
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05:57 < AlanDriN> quien habla español aca¿?
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07:14 < blindcoder> moin
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08:42 < demian> hi
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09:31 < esden> morning
09:31 < esden> argh ... sigh ... I need a time expander !
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09:40 < blindcoder> hi esden
09:40 < blindcoder> esden: how's learning?
09:40 < blindcoder> moi Ge0rG
09:40 < Ge0rG> morning :)
09:40 < blindcoder> now, THAT''s a ./configure check:
09:40 < blindcoder> checking for intelligent life... not found
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09:41 < blindcoder> moin martin_
09:41 < martin_> moin blindcoder
09:42 < esden> blindcoder: ./configure was right in that point ;-)
09:42 < blindcoder> esden: thanks :P
09:42 < esden> checking for duct tape on your mouth... not found (please fix it)
09:43 < esden> hehe
09:43 < esden> learning sux ... 
09:43 < esden> but is needed ... and when you take a look at what I am learning it is pretty funny anyways ;-)
09:44 < esden> argh ... I want that piro draws more frequently !!!
09:44 < blindcoder> esden: I'm currently hinking about setting up a age for FreeSerf
09:44 * -> esden has to order a megatokyo book ...
09:44 < blindcoder> esden: wait a little. I want one, too :)
09:44 < esden> yes ... i think i will need a creditcard
09:44 < blindcoder> together with an EluminX keyboard
09:45 < esden> so I will need your help anyways
09:45 < esden> hehe eluminX ;-)
09:45 < blindcoder> brb, co-worker crying
09:45 < esden> lol
09:50 < blindcoder> re
09:50 < blindcoder> he couldn't get KDE to start <_>
09:50 < blindcoder> >_<
10:01 < esden> re
10:01 < esden> lol
10:01 < esden> poor blindcoder 
10:02 < esden> hmm ... there is a bootscreen discussion in lkml
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10:05 < blindcoder> esden: hmm... can you link to the archive?
10:06 < esden> mom
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10:07 < blindcoder> esden:  since my adaption of the LPP for 2.4.20 got accepted on lpp-themes.sf.net I'm quite interested :)
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10:12 < esden> hmm ... the thread seems to be too new
10:12 < esden> no archive (that supports threads has it)
10:14 < blindcoder> then I have to wait
10:14 < blindcoder> but I'm sure it'll pop up in the next kernel-traffic
10:16 < esden> here is the mbox file with the thread : http://www.esden.net/rocklinux/bootscreen
10:16 < esden> you can open it with mutt -f bootscreen 
10:16 < esden> ;-)
10:16 < esden> mutt and mbox format rulez ;-)
10:19 < esden> blindcoder: ping ?
10:19 < blindcoder> pong
10:19 < blindcoder> esden: have you ever used the edit-threads patch for mut? (delivered with debian)
10:21 < esden> nope
10:21 < esden> why ?
10:22 < blindcoder> esden: hmm.. that's quite interesting... sems almost no one is able to do the LPP without problems... (why didn't _I_ have some then?)
10:22 < esden> dunno
10:22 < blindcoder> esden: it's quite convenient and useful for the ROCK-mailinglist whe people use the Reply Button to start a new topic or reple without an "In-Reply-To:" Header
10:22 < esden> you are emitiing too many cluons ?
10:23 < blindcoder> you can take mails and pin them to a thread or take mails aut of existing threads
10:23 < esden> hmm ... 
10:24 < esden> how do I use this feature ?
10:24 < esden> ahh
10:24 < esden> forget it 
10:24 < esden> i have a self compiled version here
10:24 < esden> and the patch is not in there
10:25 < blindcoder> usually: tag the mail and then use & to attach it to another an use # to break a thread
10:25 < blindcoder> esden: incoming...
10:26 < esden> incoming ?
10:29 < blindcoder> dcc
10:30 < esden> thanks
10:31 < blindcoder> esden: nothing new on the discussion of the topic in lkml. I have read those arguments on various sites pro/contra lpp
10:32 < esden> ok
10:32 < blindcoder> but I still don't think it will go intovanilla-linux. too many different POVs
10:33 < esden> I also do not think that it will go to the vanilla
10:35 * blindcoder continuing to create a style.css for his FreeSerf site
10:40 < esden> uhum
10:49 < esden> ok ... cu all
10:49 < esden> I am probably dead till sunday
10:49 < esden> cu
11:14 < martin_> cul
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13:06 < ringo30> blindcoder: Kernel messages are NULL whats a nice way to shut up init.. rewrite it ?
13:09 < th> ringo30: do you need "dmesg -n 0"?
13:10 < ringo30> th: Got a nice bootlogo but the screen is cluttered by init, starting int.. etc. where do I put dmesg -n 0 ?
13:11 < th> ringo30: ahh. all init.
13:11 < th> hmmm
13:11 < th> not with dmesg
13:11 < th> that's just for kernel ring buffer messages
13:11 < th> perhaps you want appendline like console=/dev/null
13:12 < ringo30> ahh nice     hjdasdjkhjk
13:13 < ringo30> sri ... But my shell acount didnt react ...
13:13 < ringo30> console = /dev/ttyS01 I got allready but still INIT keeps on screaming.
13:22 < th> hope you have this without spaces?
13:22 < ringo30> yep ! sri ...
13:23 < th> hmm
13:23 < th> strange
13:25 < ringo30> th: how do you mean strange it disables kernel messages and the init is started and that messages are displayed.
13:25 < th> hmm
13:25 < th> ahh
13:26 < th> ok
13:26 < th> so just redirect init's messages
13:26 < blindcoder> ringo30: how did you shut up the kernel?
13:28 < th> ringo30: try inserting a "exec 1>/dev/null" and "exec 2>/dev/null" into init-scripts
13:28 < blindcoder> ringo30: in /etc/rc.d/rc append >>/var/log/init.log 2>>&1
13:28 < blindcoder> th: not into the init-scripts, but /etc/rc.d/rc cause then it's global :)
13:28 < th> blindcoder: and who is executing /etc/rc.d/rc?
13:28 < th> hein?
13:29 < blindcoder> th: init AFAIK
13:29 < blindcoder> th: caus rc invokes the init-scripts
13:29 < th> ack
13:29 < th> so init-scripts
13:29 < th> /etc/rc.d/rc: can't stat `/etc/rc.d/rc' (No such file or directory).
13:30 < th> l3:3:wait:/etc/init.d/rc | /sbin/btee a /var/log/init.msg
13:30 < th> ringo30: just replace the | btee by a >
13:30 < th> l3:3:wait:/etc/init.d/rc >& /var/log/init.msg
13:30 < th> in /etc/inittab
13:31 < blindcoder> hmm... or like that, right..
13:32 < th> but exec 1>/dev/null in /etc/init.d/rc should do fine too
13:32 < th> and 2>/dev/null
13:33 < blindcoder> th: no, you were right. cause /etc/rc.d/rc also prints other message
13:33 < blindcoder> s
13:33 < th> ok
13:35 < ringo30> redirect them to /dev/null those echo's ?
13:36 < blindcoder> ringo30: I'd redirect them to somewhere in /var/log
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13:36 < ringo30> /var/log/lpp.log
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13:43 < ringo30> ok I'll try something, found a new hobby : Rebooting !
13:45 < blindcoder> hehe
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15:20 < rolla> re
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16:06 < Mike1> greetings
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16:58 < kasc_> moin
16:58 < Mike1> moin kasc
17:00 < kasc_> does anyone know how to make thinclients to do what i want them to do?
17:18 < rolla> re Mike1
17:18 < Mike1> greetings rolla
17:38 < Mike1> PING [anders]
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18:08 < owl> hi
18:08 < Mike1> hi owl
18:10 < owl> hi Mike1
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18:19 < ringo30> blindcoder: lot of trouble I cant write to my part at boot time could make part r/w but gives trouble with e2fsck... Rebooted 10 times  allready..
18:20 < ringo30> blindcoder: this is humor ;-)
18:22 < cchamilt> hello everybody
18:23 < cchamilt> anybody tried my new pam packages?
18:25 < cchamilt> what package contains /usr/share/dict/words?
18:34 < owl> hi cchamilt
18:37 < cchamilt> :)
18:37 < cchamilt> I am worried my new pam package won't build right.
18:38 < cchamilt> cracklib needs the dictionary and I think I may try to build it too early.
18:38 < cchamilt> Oh well I guess I'll try it and see...
18:39 < ringo30> rock-intel-1.5.12-DEV/base-pkgs/miscfiles.tar.bz2
18:39 < cchamilt> great thanks.
18:40 < ringo30> ok ! wrote a little script that lists contents of all packages, trying to get it into a DB later.
18:41 < cchamilt> yep, I build too early.
18:41 < cchamilt> Damn now I have to learn how to send patches to clifford.
18:46 < cchamilt> I disabled cracklib till stage 5, pam will build in 3 without it which is fine.
18:47 < cchamilt> If this works well I'll add kerberos and support for it and ldap in pam.
18:47 < cchamilt> I got my first Sun LX50 today.
18:48 < cchamilt> No idea what to do with it.  It is sitting on the floor.
18:49 < cchamilt> Still don't know if I am supposed to use Redhat, Sun Linux, or Rock to develop apps for it.
18:55 < cchamilt> Ingram and Sun want some sort of 'demo'.  Which I am very clueless about what they expect.
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18:58 < tcr> moin all
19:00 < cchamilt> hi
19:01 < owl> hi tcr
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19:03 < tcr> hmm, it's quite full today..
19:04 < cchamilt> anybody try a new build today?
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19:30 * tcr brb
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20:26 < demian> hi
20:31 < ringo30> hi demian
20:31 < demian> vacations have finished.. getting back to the action !
20:32 < demian> :)
20:36 < ringo30> had a good vacation ?
20:36 < demian> yeah
20:38 < ringo30> hmm nice, I just ate the worst pizza in the world.... :-(
20:38 < demian> haha
20:38 < demian> where ? (to dont eat there ..)
20:39 < ringo30> Picolino in Almelo Holland.
20:41 < demian> ok
20:41 < demian> umm
20:41 < demian> im sincere, i dunt like to see that bad packages distribution in rock-src/package/
20:42 < demian> why did u do that ?.. it wasnt so last time i updated my rock src :p
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20:55 < owl> *yawn*
20:55 < owl> hi demian
20:55 < Mike1> owl!!!
20:56 < owl> hi Mike1
20:56 < Mike1> greetings d3bian
20:56 < demian> Miky
20:57 < demian> thanx for those sources Mike1
20:58 < Mike1> demian: you are welcome
20:58 < Mike1> demian: were they actually usefull for you ?
20:58 < demian> :)
21:00 * Mike1 listening to RoJO - No me avergüenzo
21:01 < demian> wtf is that ?
21:01 < demian> Mike1: los he usado pa la otra distro :p.. ya hay varios packs actualizados :)
21:01 < Mike1> RoJO = /me favorite band
21:02 < Mike1> demian: to hear they accomplished their porpouse :)
21:04 < owl> <-- sleeping now
21:04 < owl> gn8
21:04 < demian> what is accomplish ¿
21:04 < demian> cya owl
21:04 < Mike1> lograr
21:05 < demian> hehe
21:05 < demian> which purpose ?
21:05 < Mike1> ser utiles :)
21:06 < demian> oh, sure
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21:10 < demian> im gonna go camping right now
21:10 < demian> cya
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21:16 < snyke> geil danke fake
21:16 < snyke> Message from Talk_Daemon@apollo at 20:51 ...
21:16 < snyke> talk: connection requested by fake@213.70.214.67.
21:16 < snyke> talk: respond with:  talk fake@213.70.214.67
21:16 < snyke> ..
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21:17 < tcr> re
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22:07 < Be-El> hi ppl
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22:10 < Delicik> hey
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22:13 < Delicik> make[2]: *** [commandModule.o] Error 1      make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/lmme-0.6.4/src'     make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1    make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/lmme-0.6.4'    make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
22:13 < Delicik> any tar.gz same problem.
22:14 < tcr> Delicik: first: it's not a good thing[tm] to irc as root, second: your quoted lines are completely desinformative
22:15 < tcr> probably the two/three lines above off that *** [commandModule.o] Error 1 are interesting
22:16 < Be-El> Delicik: are you sure you joined the right channel ? afaik there's no software being built in /root at all in rock linux
22:16 < Delicik> ok sorry
22:17 < tcr> hmm
22:17 < tcr> i have no problem with helping you, if i can of course
22:17 < tcr> it's rather a very nice thing to consider us to be smart enough to help you out of this problem ;)
22:18 < Be-El> hehe
22:19 * Be-El continues debugging the qt-31 issues
22:19 * tcr is ripping some CD *g*
22:20 * Mike1 kicks owl
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22:21 < tsa> moin
22:21 < Be-El> moin tsa
22:21 < tcr> moin tsa
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22:32 < Be-El> somone mentioned a problem with segfaults while building qt-31 some time ago
22:32 < Be-El> does anyone know whether this problem still exists ?
22:50 < tcr> gn8 all
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22:52 < kasc> re
22:52 < Be-El> moin kasc
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23:23 < Mike1> cu all
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