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10:17 < kasc> moin
10:30 < blindcod1r> moin
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10:33 < kasc> finished my first seven packages :)
10:33 < kasc> wanna have a look?
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10:40 < blindcoder> what packages?
10:42 < kasc> 6 games and a library
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10:43 < blindcoder> games! games! games! games! games!
10:43 < kasc> hehe
10:43 < blindcoder> kasc: what are you waiting for? ./scripts/Create-Diff | mail rock-linux@rocklinux.org
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10:44 < blindcoder> moin owl
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10:44 < kasc> blindcoder: i already sent a copy to clifford
10:44 < kasc> still waiting for an answer
10:45 < blindcoder> kasc: I see :)
10:45 < blindcoder> which games / libs did you package?
10:46 < kasc> mainly arcade games
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10:46 < blindcoder> hmm... we could package the whole happypenguin.org :)
10:46 < kasc> geki2, geki3, grande, SpaceAryarya, hexxagon and xrick
10:46 < blindcoder> geki? as in Gekigangar?
10:47 < kasc> i'm currently testing games from gametome ;)
10:47 < kasc> i dont know gekigangar
10:47 < blindcoder> no surprise there :)
10:47 < kasc> i already found about 10 games that just wait to be packaged ;)
10:48 < blindcoder> it's an anime that is played inside another anime :)
10:48 * blindcoder has to continue wark on his own game
10:48 < kasc> geki is some kind of 2D shooter
10:48 < kasc> do all games have to go to /usr/games/ ?
10:49 < blindcoder> they don't HAVE to, but it is nice if they do :)
10:49 < blindcoder> consult the FHS for that
10:49 < kasc> how do i change the dir they get installed to? is there a nice way to do it from .desc ?
10:50 < blindcoder> hmm... I think prefix="/usr/games/" in .conf
10:50 < blindcoder> moment
10:51 < blindcoder> from Documentation/Developers/PKG-BUILD-VARS:
10:51 < blindcoder> prefix ........ install prefix (usually '/usr' or '/opt/...')
10:51 < blindcoder> so add to .conf: prefix="/usr/games"
10:52 < kasc> ah, thx :)
10:52 < blindcoder> but if they aren't autoconf'd you will have to do some cheating
10:52 < blindcoder> like creating a patch for the Makefile or other weird stuff
10:53 < kasc> with one game i need to fix a sed line in configure :(
10:54 < kasc> hope the author will do it for me ;)
10:54 < blindcoder> fix it and tell him
10:56 < kasc> not sure if i'm going to include it anyways
10:56 < kasc> the storyline is a bit short
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10:57 < tcr> moin all
10:58 < kasc> moin tcr
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11:58 < totom> hello
11:59 < tcr> hello totom
11:59 * tcr is listening to Gamma Ray - Gods of Deliverance
12:00 < totom> i compiled rock 1.7-2003... and made an ./Scripts/Create-Iso ... but when i want to boot this cd a red lilo promt(ramdisk ...) but than "kernel panic:No init found." whats wrong?
12:02 < tcr> take a look at the lilo.conf and look if your hd of your root dir is properly append='ed
12:03 < tcr> if it is, look if the kernel has been compiled with the right driver for you HD (which actually should be the case)
12:03 < totom> thanks ill try it later
12:03 < totom> yes the kernel works i have no esoteric hardware
12:04 < tcr> with lilo.conf i mean the configuration file that had been used to create the ramdisk
12:04 < tcr> and not /etc/lilo.conf
12:06 < simon> good morning
12:06 < tcr> moin
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12:07 < totom> my other question: i looked in the build log files i thought if i choose athlon-tbird in the config menu all pkgs will be build with -march=athlon-tbird -mcpu=athlon-tbird but i cant see any march/mcpu in the logs? have i set it for my own?
12:08 < tcr> hmm. dunno, not that familiar with 1.7.. just wait till someone else woke up
12:08 < tcr> wake
12:09 < tcr> wakes
12:09 < tcr> grm
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12:10 < tcr> re blindcoder
12:10 < tcr> totom: ask your question blindcoder, he might be able to answer it
12:11 < totom> blindcoder: i looked in the build log files i thought if i choose athlon-tbird in the config menu all pkgs will be build with -march=athlon-tbird -mcpu=athlon-tbird but i cant see any march/mcpu in the logs? have i set it for my own?
12:11 < simon> hmm, are there actual binary packages available to install remotely via network?
12:12 < blindcoder> totom: then there's something wrong. I have -march when I grep threugh my logs
12:12 < blindcoder> totom: did you forget to add -cfg anywhere?
12:13 < totom> hmm iam noot sure in the moment - may be that i forgot it some time
12:14 < totom> blindcoder: i am not at home so i cant look but thank you for the tip
12:14 < blindcoder> totom: no problem
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12:51 < owl> hi *yaaaawn*
12:55 < fake> nabend
12:56 < owl> morgen fake
12:57 < fake> <- still up, not already
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12:58 < owl> omg. worked until ...?
13:00 < fake> only until ~22:00
13:01 < owl> hm. are you mutating into a vampyre or something similar?  how are you btw?
13:01 < fake> (okay... i fell asleep for about 100 lines while scroll-reading kernel source..)
13:02 < fake> i'm.... busy
13:02 < fake> how are you?
13:03 < owl> ok. extremly tired. thx.
13:05 < fake> no sleep?
13:05 < owl> slept for about 16 hours... but.. dunno. extremly tired ;)
13:06 < fake> omfg
13:06 < owl> *g* shocked? ;)
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13:14 < fake> hi hackbard
13:14 < hackbard> morning fake!
13:14 * fake Instant Remedy - Last Ninja (extended)
13:16 < owl> <-- going skiing now.
13:16 < owl> cu later
13:16 < fake> have fun, owl
13:16 < owl> thx. i will have
13:17 < fake> (imagines an owl in skis...)
13:17 < owl> catch some sleep fake ;P
13:17 < fake> s,in,on,
13:17 < owl> fake: *kick*
13:17 < fake> not yet
13:17 < fake> firtst kernel compiles
13:17 < fake> then fake sleeps
13:17 < owl> tstststs...
13:17 < fake> hm...
13:17 < fake> seemes like i fixed it
13:17 < owl> congrats ;P
13:17 < fake> mips is pretty broken in 2.4.20
13:18 * fake getting more coffee
13:18 < owl> hm.
13:18 < owl> fake, the caffeine junkie
13:18 < fake> i'm not addicted!
13:19 < owl> are you sure?
13:19 < ringo30> me 2 ! I love coffee, I am adicted !
13:19 < fake> i can stop whenerver i ... have to.
13:19 < owl> hm.  maybe. why don't test it?
13:19 < fake> i did
13:19 < owl> ? when? some days ago?
13:20 < fake> i didn\t drink coffe from thursday to sunday last week
13:20 < fake> *proud*
13:20 < owl> hm. and slept all the time, i guess, eh?
13:21 < fake> yes, about 18h/day
13:21 < owl> urgs.
13:21 < fake> i couldn't believe it, too... but i fell asleep again and again...
13:22 < owl> yeah, of course. cuz you have a "defizit" of sleep i guess
13:23 < fake> http://www.machinaesupremacy.com/
13:23 < fake> YES!~
13:23 < fake> it built!
13:23 < fake> <- geht voll ab ;)
13:24 < owl> hehe. congratulations, again
13:25 < fake> now if this kernel works i have s/th to announce ... *smiles*
13:25 < tcr> hi fake
13:25 < fake> hi tcr!
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13:27 < tcr> hmm
13:27 < tcr> bah. that sounds too computer generated
13:28 < fake> get 'great gianna sisters'
13:29 < tcr> ok
13:29 < fake> i like the mix of rock and electronic
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13:29 < owl> fake: is it ebm... or different?
13:30 * tcr is listening to Mortification - Lymphorsarcoma
13:31 < owl> * like *
13:31 < fake> owl: different
13:32 < owl> hm. k.
13:32 < owl> <-- finally off. bye
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14:05 < kpraenti> cool. kopete can do irc
14:05 < tcr> kpraenti 8)
14:06 < kpraenti> but i think i want my irssi console back
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14:08 < praenti> ahh. better
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14:11 < praenti> cool thing. but nobody need it ;-)
14:11 < praenti> cu tomorrow cause i have to learn
14:12 < tcr> have phun
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16:28 * tcr brb
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16:39 < owl> re
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16:41 < tcr> re
16:42 < owl> re tcr
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16:50 < demian> hi
16:51 < owl> hi demian
16:52 < demian> brb
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16:57 < d3mian> re
16:59 < ringo30> re
16:59 < ringo30> anobody know a good faq about lprng with ifhp ?
17:01 < d3mian> what do i need to make cups print ? i receive a error like: Unable to convert file to printable document
17:01 < d3mian> seems i need a filter.. but i dunno which, and stracing `lp` dont show enough info
17:02 < ringo30> maybe ifhp a2ps or something
17:03 < d3mian> i have a2ps.. but not ifhp.. ill try it
17:03 < d3mian> thanx
17:08 < d3mian> a rock fb logo would be nice if it were an optional feature
17:09 < d3mian> how can i make lilo load a ramdisk before load the boot kernel ?
17:09 < d3mian> like rock's install-cd does: loading ramdisk. booting kernel..
17:10 < ringo30> you can also make aown rocklogop in stead of the pinguin with a fbdevicce.
17:10 < ringo30> rocklogo
17:10 < ringo30> Or you can also install lpp
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17:11 < ringo30> its not so difficult , I am having sme trouble with other res than 640*480 but I am looking into that first I wanna have my printer  print.
17:12 < d3mian> sure, i know, but.. how would be this included, in the kernel sources ? then.. it is a user selectable option when compiling the kernel with framebuffer ? or a that wanted logo will appear always when i have fb enabled ?
17:13 < ringo30> it will allways be enabled unless you boot without db device, you can make some kernels with different images.
17:14 < d3mian> for my opinion, it could be included, if it is a user selectable option when configuring kernel build
17:14 < d3mian> as an option applied in the config.in
17:15 < ringo30> CONFIG_FB=y I allways put it in .config right befiore I make menuconfig.
17:17 < ringo30> CONFIG_FB_VESA=y /* you can boot at differenent resoluions using vesa 2.0 */
17:17 < d3mian> i know
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17:17 < putra-langit> hi
17:17 < putra-langit> anyone here use rocklinux for machine production ?
17:18 < d3mian> let's say i want sth like a USE_ROCK_FB_LOGO option selectable when i enable CONFIG_FB and that
17:19 < ringo30> you can just make a linux_logo.h with
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17:20 < ringo30> fblogo 0.5.0 it converts a PNG to a linux_logo.h
17:21 < ringo30> you will have also to install imagemagick (used by fblogo)
17:24 < ringo30> you can also patch your kernel with lpp its cooler you get a graph login it really nice, but you will have to redirect some messages from the daemons started by inet.d
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17:25 < d3mian> ive played with that already
17:26 < ringo30> looks great doesnt it , you can use themes and also create your own, I have downloaded a rock-theme its really cool !
17:27 < d3mian> but.. what i dunt want is to see estrictly a rockfb logo when i enable fb in the kernel.. in logic way: if [ "CONFIG_FB" == "y" ] ; then "should i use rock_logo or kernel default ? (y/n)"; fi
17:30 < ringo30> then later you can change liux_logo.h by a different one and you compile it with that logo.
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17:31 < d3mian> re tcr
17:32 < d3mian> what do i have to do to make lilo load a initial ramdisk before the kernel ?
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17:33 < d3mian> i added this option:     initrd=root.img
17:33 < d3mian> to lilo.conf (in kernel boot image)
17:34 < tcr> and?
17:35 < d3mian> but, when booting cd.., boot messages are:
17:35 < d3mian> loading kernel.......(log list of dots)..
17:36 < d3mian> but rock's install cd show: loading ramdisk. booting kernel..
17:36 < d3mian> and i want more than one ramdisk, one for root, and other one for some kernel modules
17:38 < d3mian> how can i make this ?
17:38 < d3mian> i already read Bootdisk-howto.. but bootable cdrom part is not so good
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17:54 < ringo30> main rotations lost connectivity on wallops waht does this mean ?
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20:09 < simon> hello, can someone tell me which filesystem the root disks use?
20:10 < kasc> simon: depends on how you formatet them
20:10 < kasc> most probably its ext2
20:10 < simon> hmm, its not
20:10 < kasc> perhaps minix?
20:11 < simon> kasc I used the root-disk-1.44MB.img from 1.6.0pre3.iso
20:11 < kasc> i'm not much into bootdisks yet
20:11 < kasc> sorry
20:12 < simon> thank you anyway.
20:12 < tcr> simon: that doesnt use any filesystem at all, but has to be copied to the disk rawly
20:12 < tcr> via dd
20:13 < simon> tcr is there a tar.bz2?
20:19 < tcr> sorry, was away
20:20 < tcr> simon: i think that's detailedly described in the guide
20:34 < ringo30> simon: tar (tape archive) bzip2 compressed.
20:35 < ringo30> sry gzipped
20:36 < ringo30> off watching tele  ! sorry didnt read 1/2 of it !
20:39 * owl goethes erben - rote traenen
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20:46 < Mike1> greetings
20:46 < owl> hi Mike1
20:46 < Mike1> :))
20:46 < Mike1> ho Sandra
20:46 < Mike1> hi even
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20:47 < Be-El> hi ppl
20:59 * kasc is happy :)
20:59 < Be-El> kasc: your mail didn't contain an attachment ;-)
20:59 < kasc> oops...
21:00 < Be-El> kasc: repository kasc oder repository games ?
21:01 < kasc> repository kasc
21:01 < Be-El> kasc: we should put all games and game related stuff into a single repository
21:02 < Be-El> the games itself, libraries like SDL etc
21:02 < kasc> i'd rather like to introduce some more categories for games...
21:02 < Be-El> it's easier to disable a complete repository if you do not want to build the games
21:03 < kasc> why is it more difficult to use categories to disable all games?
21:05 < Be-El> categories are a way to handle it, too
21:05 < Be-El> but some libraries are used by other applications, too...
21:05 < Be-El> SDL for example
21:06 < kasc> that would be a reason for using categories instead of disabling the whole repository
21:07 < Be-El> yes, but if SDL is put into the category games/lib, disabling this category may break other (non game related) software, too
21:07 < kasc> you can put a package into multiple categories
21:08 < kasc> so it would be easier to reenable those packages using the other categories they might be in
21:08 < Be-El> sure...but the default way to disable a package (either with scripts/Config or some config.in scripts) is to use a regexp
21:09 < Be-El> and those regexp do not care for additional categories in most cases ;-)
21:10 < kasc> lets say libSDL is in a repository called games and in the categories games/lib and x11/lib
21:10 < kasc> how would you disable all games but not libSDL?
21:10 < Be-El> i would put SDL into repository x11 ;-)
21:11 < kasc> although it is mainly used by games?
21:12 < kasc> there will be other libs like SDL and spreading them all over the repositorys would make it much more difficult to maintain ;)
21:12 < Be-El> before releasing 1.8 we should shuffle the repositories anyway
21:13 < Be-El> e.g. kdevelop should move to kde-30
21:13 < kasc> thought 2.0 would be next...
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21:27 < Mike1> **yawn**
21:41 < Be-El> re
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23:40 < freed> hi all
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