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06:39 < blindcod1r> moin
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11:31 < dreamind> Hi :)
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13:33 < tomik> hello
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14:42 < TheNight> Hi
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15:17 < _NULL> hi
15:28 < Mike1> moin all
15:29 < tomik> hi
15:29 < _NULL> hi Mike1
15:30 < TheNight> hi _NULL
15:30 < _NULL> hi TheNight
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18:34 < daja77> hi all
18:35 < Mike1> hi daja77
18:35 < daja77> Mike1: hi
18:36 < daja77> I have still trouble with my via chipset
18:36 < daja77> don't get rock compiled without a panic :(
18:36 < Mike1> mmm...
18:37 < Mike1> daja77: kernel version?
18:37 < daja77> 2.4.19-20 even tried 2.4.21pre2
18:37 < Mike1> daja maybe you should go for kernel vainilla
18:37 < Mike1> mm..
18:37 < Mike1> weird
18:37 < daja77> 2.4.20 is vanilla
18:37 < Mike1> daja 1.7 right?
18:42 < daja77> yes
18:42 < daja77> I even tried to disable dma mode for hd
18:42 < Mike1> mm.
18:42 < Mike1> this is very strange
18:43 < daja77> yes, it makes me crazy
18:43 < Mike1> daja77: you should build your own 1.7
18:43 < Mike1> daja77: several people including me had problems with this iso
18:44 < daja77> Mike1: do you think compiling under RedHat would do better?
18:45 < Mike1> daja77: yeah do it
18:45 < daja77> Ok, I'll give it one more try, but i didn't work last time
18:45 < Mike1> daja77: else you can try with 1.6.x installed
18:46 < daja77> Mike1: the compiler is too old in 1.6.x
18:48 < Mike1> daja77: arrg yeah true
18:48 < Mike1> daja77: give it a try on redhat
18:48 < Mike1> daja77: i am currently running rh8.0 on this box
18:48 < Mike1> and will runa  build
18:48 < Mike1> so i guess we will have similar problems
18:51 < daja77> Well started the build on rh8 with devfs enabled 2.4.19 vanilla
18:52 < Mike1> daja77: i will see what happens on my side
18:52 < daja77> Mike1: cool, will tell if it fails
18:52 < Mike1> daja77: oki
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18:54 < javito> hi all
18:54 < Mike1> oi javito
18:55 < javito> oi Mike1 wasup?
18:55 < Mike1> javito: nothing much, just working and coding a bit
18:55 < javito> kewl
18:55 < javito> bettar than nuthing
18:55 < Mike1> u?
18:55 < Mike1> javito: certainly
18:55 < javito> working and installing rock on my station
18:56 < javito> =P
18:56 < Mike1> Good :)
18:56 < javito> look, i got an SMC 83C170QF network card
18:56 < javito> seems its the epic100 model
18:56 < javito> dunno
18:56 < javito> but i think rock aint got that module..
18:56 < javito> what can i do?
18:57 < Mike1> javito: it does not depend on the distro, it depends on the kernel
18:57 < Mike1> javito: did you already recompile your kernel?
18:57 < javito> yeah i know
18:57 < Mike1> javito: maybe you want to update your kernel
18:57 < javito> i havent started with the installation
18:57 < Mike1> javito: what kernel version and rock version are you running
18:57 < javito> wait up..lemme check
18:57 < Mike1> javito: then how do you know it will not work?
18:58 < javito> i guess 2.4.20
18:58 < javito> rock 1.7
18:58 < Mike1> javito it should be supported then
18:58 < javito> i just burned that iso out, remeber?
18:58 < Mike1> yeah :)
18:59 < javito> shit
18:59 < javito> seems its the epic100 card
19:00 < javito> Standard Microsystems Corp [SMC]|83C170QF epic100
19:00 < javito> yes
19:00 < javito> wait a moment please
19:01 < javito> look Mike1
19:01 < javito> it says.. List of available modules
19:01 < javito> and lists some modules
19:01 < javito> but it aint got the epic100
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19:01 < Mike1> javito: where are you getting such list?
19:01 < Mike1> lsmod?
19:02 < javito> from the init menu
19:02 < javito> i just booted with that cd
19:02 < Mike1> javito: you will not need the net module during the install
19:03 < Mike1> javito just recompile ur kernel _after_ you finish the install
19:03 < javito> ok
19:03 < javito> i load that module
19:03 < javito> =0
19:03 < Mike1> javito: don't use a module use it static :)
19:03 < javito> should i go to the 2nd stage
19:03 < javito> ?
19:04 < Mike1> yeah
19:04 < javito> load 2nd stage from local device?
19:04 < Mike1> yeah
19:04 * Mike1 away eating ..
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19:11 < armijn> re
19:12 < _NULL> re armijn
19:13 < armijn> hi _NULL
19:14 * armijn playing Suicidal Tendencies
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19:32 < tcr> moin all
19:34 < javito> moin tcr
19:36 < tcr> hi javito.. alles klar bei dir?
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19:41 < javito> ich bin fine
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19:42 < tcr> ;)
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19:45 < Mike1> re
19:47 < tcr> hi mike
19:47 < Mike1> hi tcr :)
19:49 < javito> fuck i hate dealing with people
19:49 < Mike1> javito: please moderate your language.
19:50 < javito> ok
19:50 < javito> =P
19:50 < javito> but its true!
19:50 < Mike1> javito: same here bte :)
19:50 < Mike1> btw*
19:51 < javito> look, got a stupid working with me
19:51 < javito> by error, i copied my mp3z at a win2k server
19:51 < javito> and he deleted eveerything!
19:51 < javito> wow!
19:51 < Mike1> arrggg!!
19:51 < javito> thanx im an educated guy
19:51 < Mike1> asume you deleted the w2k crap right?
19:52 < javito> i mean
19:52 < javito> i thought i was copying to a friend wrkstation
19:52 < javito> and i copied to a fu@#!@#$ wi2k server
19:53 < javito> anyway
19:53 < Mike1> javito: simply remove the w2k server and peace will be back to you :)
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19:54 < Mike1> hi ruddur
19:54 < ruddur> hi Mike1
19:55 < tcr> Mike1: just to inform you, when the new drock-2.0 isos are out, i'll finally jump to 2.0
19:55 < tcr> 1.7
19:55 < ruddur> hi _NULL, tcr, esden and the others
19:56 < Mike1> tcr: as you can see 1.6 seems to be ... death... so we should simple jump over now
19:56 < tcr> hi ruddur ;)
19:59 < _NULL> hi ruddur
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20:01 < _NULL> hi netrunner_
20:02 < ruddur> hi netrunner_
20:04 < netrunner_> hi *
20:05 < netrunner_> oh what fun I had when I just read that you have to proceed differently if you are going to cross-build ...
20:14 < javito> tcr:
20:14 < tcr> here
20:14 < javito> do i?
20:24 < netrunner_> kewl ... binutils failed.
20:24 < netrunner_> oh I re-read the file and saw that I wasn't _that_ wrong :) but it failed anyway.
20:25 < javito> Mike1:
20:27 < bluefire> OT question: Does anybody know a laptop which can reliably do suspend-to-ram under Linux and that is currently available on the market?
20:27 < javito> no i dont
20:29 < netrunner_> bluefire: I am very happy with my sony vaio n505x
20:29 < bluefire> netrunner_: does it match the question?
20:30 < javito> im curious too/
20:30 < bluefire> netrunner_: suspend-to-ram + available to buy in a shop?
20:30 < netrunner_> bluefire: what do you mean with reliably? if the battery wears out, it will go off...
20:30 < netrunner_> bluefire: I am mostly using the suspend to disk feature.
20:30 < bluefire> no, I mean when I close it lid it goes to suspend and then I open the lid I can continue where I stopped.
20:32 < netrunner_> bluefire: I guess you'll have to press a button (or maybe configure it in the bios). But I am not sure if it meets your hw-needs. it's just celeron 333
20:32 < bluefire> netrunner_: then it doesn't match "available in stores"
20:33 < bluefire> I don't believe anybody still sells them new
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20:34 < netrunner_> noe, they definitely don't.
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20:44 < tcr> moin daja
20:44 < daja77> hi tcr
20:44 < daja77> something wrong with your clock?
20:45 < tcr> with mine?
20:45 < daja77> yes
20:45 < daja77> well doesn't matter anyway
20:46 < tcr> hmm, yeah on one of my boxes it's already 20:50
20:47 < daja77> what's the library business doing?
20:48 < tcr> well today started school again, and i'm currently eating, so not much... done some smaller things.. but my todo list has grown up in the meanwhile
20:48 < daja77> what grade are you in?
20:49 < tcr> 10. :->
20:50 < daja77> cool
20:57 < netrunner_> anyone has an advise for this?
20:57 < netrunner_> ./../ylwrap: -d: command not found
20:57 < netrunner_>  /bin/sh ./../ylwrap "" arparse.y y.tab.c arparse.c y.tab.h arparse.h --  -d
20:57 < tcr> what are you trying
20:57 < netrunner_> tcr: building binutils, stage 0 for cross-build
20:58 < tcr> uhm
20:58 < tcr> is that produced by a ROCK script or by binutils itself
20:58 < tcr> ?
21:01 < daja77> Mike1: my machine is fscked up completely during glibc build :(
21:03 < netrunner_> tcr: by make, I guess, which is called by scripts/Build-Target
21:05 < tcr> netrunner_: well, show in the .conf file if you encounter any bogus thing (unlikely). Then untar the sourceball in any dir, and grep for the following line: 'arparse.y y.tab.c arparse.c y.tab.h' and look in the appropriate files if there's something wrong
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21:30 < demian> hi
21:30 < _NULL> hi demian
21:30 < daja77> hi demian
21:30 < demian> everytime i come here i see more people...
21:31 < demian> hehe
21:31 < demian> is rock linux mailing list sending mails propertly ?
21:31 < netrunner_> tcr: thx. i issued make in <binutilssrcdir>/binutils and it complains about a missing yacc. i'll move on from there.
21:31 < tcr> why?
21:32 < tcr> @ demian
21:32 < demian> havent received a mail in 2 days
21:32 < javito> im booting with the rock-1.7-2002-12-xx-.iso burned cd
21:33 < javito> i create the partitions
21:33 < javito> swap n stuff
21:33 < javito> i got two files
21:33 < javito> a big one
21:33 < javito> a small 170mb one
21:34 < javito> when i choose the packages, it complains about a disk 2
21:34 < javito> what can be wrong?
21:34 < javito> am i not supposed to have everythign on the 1st cd since im not compiling nothing extra?
21:36 < javito> any ideas...?
21:37 < tcr> demian: received ~12 mails today
21:38 < demian> tcr: ill check what is happening then. thnx
21:47 < javito> my cd is fu##cked up!
21:48 < demian> cya
21:48 < javito> gn7
21:48 < javito> gn8
21:48 < javito>  =DS\
21:48 < ruddur> javito it's 1.7.19c3.iso
21:48 < javito> mmm...
21:48 < javito> lemme see
21:48 < ruddur> i have this in two cd's
21:48 < javito> rock-1.7-2002-12-24-CD1.iso
21:48 < ruddur> yes
21:48 < javito> which one is it?
21:49 < ruddur> two cd's
21:49 < javito> douh
21:49 < daja77> you need also CD2
21:49 < ruddur> yes
21:49 < javito> ok danke
21:49 < ruddur> in ftp.drock.org i thinks
21:49 < javito>  ncftpget ftp://iso.rocklinux.de/dRock/unstable/1.7-19c3/rock-1.7-2002-12-24-CD2.iso
21:49 < javito> =P
21:49 < ruddur> yes
21:50 < javito> hope tomorrow ...
21:50 < javito> Could not connect to iso.rocklinux.de -- try again later: Connection timed out.
21:50 < javito> douh
21:50 < ruddur> there is another
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21:50 < javito> which
21:51 < javito> which 1?
21:51 < ruddur> one moment
21:51 < javito> okz
21:54 < ruddur> ftp://drocklinux.dyndns.org/drock/unstable/1.7-19c3
21:55 < ruddur> ftp://drocklinux.dyndns.org/drock/unstable/1.7-19c3/rock-1.7-2002-12-24-CD2.iso
21:55 < javito> is it the same?
21:56 < javito> yeah it is..
21:56 < javito> well..
21:56 < javito> thnx!
21:56 < ruddur> nothing
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21:56 < javito-off> gn8!
21:56 < tcr> schlag gut javito
21:56 < daja77> hehe
21:56 < tcr> uhm schlaf gut ;)
21:57 < tcr> why the heck is the g key so near to the f key
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21:58 < tcr> i should switch to dvorak
21:58 < daja77> you can type fg very fast
21:58 < demian> now i know what happened with the mail server here.. somone already played with the bof in sendmail :(
21:59 < tcr> bofh you mean?
21:59 < demian> just wanted to inform u of update sendmail as fast as u can
21:59 < daja77> you don't play with a bofh
21:59 < demian> buffer over flow
22:00 < demian> cya
22:00 < daja77> tcr: at least only once
22:00 < daja77> bye demian
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22:03 < tcr> hi juanca... that sounds female, eh?
22:04 < juanca> no
22:04 < juanca> i male
22:04 < juanca> and you?
22:04 < daja77> dunno *g*
22:04 < juanca> somebody knows...
22:05 < daja77> hehe
22:05 < juanca> what command i have to type in linux console...
22:05 < juanca> for help commands?
22:05 < daja77> man $topic
22:05 < juanca> thanks
22:05 < tcr> quick search can be done with 'apropos keyword'
22:05 < juanca> how i can create a directory?
22:05 < daja77> mkdir
22:05 < juanca> what is the command?
22:05 < juanca> thanks
22:06 < juanca> :)
22:06 < daja77> man mkdir *g*
22:06 < tcr> you should go to some site for a general overview of basic shell commands
22:06 < tcr> there're tons of such sites
22:12 < daja77> tcr: I hope you are not here to meet females *g*
22:13 < tcr> daja77: and that /you/ say to me? You with your age after your nick?
22:14 < daja77> *lol* no boy couldn't be my age, I would have to change too often
22:14 < tcr> well though i doubt it's very attractive to show babes that you're some old wranky grandpa ;)
22:14 < daja77> only if you have money
22:14 < daja77> $daja77 now
22:15 < tcr> or are the owner of the playboy
22:15 < daja77> I missed that part
22:16 < daja77> well I use the 77 to distinct my nick from the other dajas around
22:18 < tcr> how inventive you are, dare ;)
22:18 < tcr> dear
22:18 < daja77> huh?
22:19 < tcr> yeah, i'm pretty impressed of your creativity ;)
22:19 < daja77> what do you want from me today?
22:20 < daja77> read: what is your question again?
22:20 < tcr> what question?
22:21 < daja77> about that inventive stuff
22:21 < tcr> i'm just impressed how you got out of the friggin afair just by putting a magical number like 77 after your nick. Simple but with far reaching consequences, that I call a genius
22:22 < tcr> ye, i'm rather kidding
22:22 < daja77> well, of course it does not solve every problem, but I don't use this nick only in irc
22:23 < daja77> outside irc it works quite better
22:23 < tcr> so this decision even influenced your life?
22:24 < daja77> indeed, I had no chance to register a daja domain or account somewhere
22:24 < tcr> what a pity
22:24 < daja77> I got over it *g*
22:24 < tcr> well, being left by a gurlfriend is nothing against that, i guess
22:25 < tcr> the worst case[tm] that could occur to one ever
22:25 < daja77> you get it soom, I see
22:25 < tcr> didn't you play around with suicid thoughts
22:26 < daja77> don't mess me up with _NULL or her other incarnations
22:26 < Mike1> *yawn*
22:27 < daja77> wb Mike1
22:27 < tcr> well null is hopeless lost, that's not argueable in any way
22:27 < Mike1> daja77: thanks
22:27 < Mike1> _NULL: Gott segne dich
22:27 < tcr> what time is it, Mike1?
22:27 < daja77> Mike1: my machine died quitely during the build
22:27 < Mike1> tcr: Wed Mar  5 15:36:17 CST 2003
22:27 * tcr gets amused everytime Mike1 says that, it's so amazing ;)))
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22:28 < _NULL> Mike1: thx. god bless you, too, Mike1
22:29 < daja77> you forgot about the god bless america part *g*
22:29 < Mike1> daja77: define died?
22:29 < Mike1> tcr: well you should know me by now :)
22:30 < daja77> Mike1: I didn't react via keyboard or network, switched it off
22:30 < tcr> i must hear that in rl from you ;)
22:31 < Mike1> daja77: mm...
22:32 < Mike1> tcr: you will
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22:33 < daja77> Mike1: I know, it seems that the hardware is completely broken, but explain that to a vendor
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22:34 < tcr> for the germans among you: https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/politik/0,1518,238608,00.html
22:35 < Mike1> daja77: just ask them if their hardware supports Linux before buying
22:35 < Mike1> daja77: would be nice if you could bring the box up and gimme ssh access to it.
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22:36 < daja77> Mike1: I would do this but the machine is masqueraded
22:37 < Mike1> daja77: behind a linux router / firewall?
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22:37 < daja77> Mike1: yes, sort of it is an old pc routing isdn
22:37 < Mike1> daja77: but the router has an accessible ip?
22:38 < daja77> Mike1: we'll manage that, you can enter the router and hop on that machine, ok?
22:38 < Mike1> daja77: actually just:
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22:38 < rudaway> bye all
22:39 < rudaway> good night
22:39 < rudaway> see tomorrow
22:39 < Mike1> iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -p tcp -d <routers-ip> --dport 10 -j DNAT --to <fucked-box-ip>:22
22:39 < Mike1> daja77: do that on the router and make me an account on the messed box :)
22:40 < daja77> Mike1: don't you need root account?
22:40 < Mike1> daja77: you could make me a sudoer
22:40 < Mike1> still i just wanna have a quick look on it
22:40 < Mike1> no root access needed certainly
22:41 < daja77> mom
22:43 < tcr> gn8 all
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23:25 < Mike1> n8 all
23:25 < daja77> gn8 Mike1 and thx for all
23:25 < Mike1> daja77: no problem
23:43 < daja77> gn8 you all
23:45 < kasc> moin
23:45 < daja77> hi kasc
23:45 < _NULL> gn8
23:45 < kasc> could anyone lend me a hand with some c?
23:45 < daja77> gnu8 _NULL
23:45 < kasc> n8 _NULL
23:46 < daja77> kasc: maybe, but before I can tell you something about your printing problem
23:46 < kasc> kewl
23:46 < kasc> what is it?
23:46 < daja77> I asked Kurt Pfeifle at the Linxutag
23:47 < daja77> maybe your ghostscript version is too old
23:47 < kasc> hmm
23:48 < kasc> shouldnt be that old
23:48 < daja77> it must be one of the latest if used with cups 1.15 or higher
23:48 < kasc> ic
23:49 < kasc> i'll upgrade soon then ;)
23:49 < daja77> hth
23:49 < kasc> i'll let you know if it works as soon as i have something to print again
23:50 < daja77> ok
23:51 < daja77> what is your c problem?
23:52 < kasc> i need to access a parameter i put to make from within the .c file
23:52 < daja77> command line?
23:53 < kasc> like in: make DESTDIR=/usr
23:54 < kasc> i need to build the DESTDIR somehow into the sources
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