--- Log opened Sun Mar 09 00:00:08 2003
--- Day changed Sun Mar 09 2003
00:00 < rxr> cu in some minutes
00:06 < kasc> n8 all
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00:15 < _NULL> re
00:23 < rxr> rere
01:04 < esden> hi all
01:04 < _NULL> hi esden
01:06 < esden> hi owl ;-)
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01:45 < rxr> wow afet many hours of hacking my kernel now recognizes this stupid wlan card
01:46 < esden> which one ?
01:48 < rxr> one using the ADM which ...
01:48 < rxr> (I know binary only ... )
01:48 < rxr> and this shit binary only is what makes the thing ugly.
01:50 < esden> ohh ... ok
01:50 < rxr> http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Linux.Wireless.drivers.html#ADMtek
01:50 < rxr> http://www.admtek.com.tw/products/ADM8211.htm
01:51 < esden> *klick*
01:53 < rxr> WOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWW
01:53 < rxr> After 6 hours of frickeling I know can ping wire-less
01:53 < esden> ok ... this is the chipset ... you have the d-link card ?
01:53 < rxr> no a longshine
01:54 < esden> ok ...
01:54 < rxr> the only one avaliable on a saturday here in berlin ...
01:54 < rxr> :-(
01:54 < esden> why do you need a wlan card so shortly ?
01:54 < esden> congrats ... that you can ping now
01:55 < rxr> because valentin is paying the DSL line - after a week he also wants to use the 1024MBit/s line ...
01:55 < rxr> so we set out to get a card
01:55 < esden> ahh ok 
01:56 < rxr> of course we only bougth it under with bring-back
01:56 < rxr> but when the card is plugged into my laptop I somehow fell to get the shit thing to send s.th. thought the air  - you know= ;-)
01:57 < rxr> s/under/
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01:59 < esden> yes I think I understad
01:59 < esden> nd ;-)
02:01 < rxr> do you already used a wlan card ?
02:04 < esden> yes I have ... but my new one is currently freezing my laptop >_<
02:04 < rxr> oh - which one ?
02:04 < esden> it is a compu-shack card
02:04 < esden> it is a prismI chipset
02:04 < rxr> oh - such an old one ?
02:04 < esden> it should work or better it has to ... fake has the same card
02:05 < esden> hmm ... not sure
02:05 < esden> it is a prism chipset that is sure
02:05 < rxr>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
02:06 < rxr> is 0 a good signal level - or a bad one=
02:06 < rxr> or maybe the card doesn't support this ?
02:06 < esden> every second time I insert the card it is being recognized ... and when it is recognized my machine freezes ... when I remove the card the system continues to work ..
02:06 < esden> very strange behaviour
02:06 < esden> 0 is bad
02:07 < esden> link quality should be higher too
02:07 < esden> noise should be 0 ;-)
02:07 < rxr> hm
02:10 < rxr> both of my adapter show this
02:10 < rxr> the one is such a ADMtek and the other has an Atmel chip
02:17 < esden> hmmm ... now my laptop panicked ...
02:17 < esden> ok ... I go sleeping ...
02:18 < rxr> ;-) good night
02:19 < esden> good night
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03:41 < fronti> 20 min to formular 1 start
03:41 < Ge0rG> fronti: this is off topic here :-P
03:41 < fronti> Ge0rG: hehe ;) ok than i build a f1.desc ;)
03:41 < Ge0rG> *g*
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06:23 < holyolli> moin
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08:44 < netrunner_afk> moin
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09:00 < netrunner_> http://www.ratnet.stw.uni-erlangen.de/geist
09:00 < netrunner_> urgs - sorry!
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10:25 < netrunner_> anyone skilled with booting an nfs-exported root here?
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11:44 < netrunner_> why does util-linux not create passwd? the only thing compiled is agetty. Shall I edit etc/shadow by hand?
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12:04 < kasc> netrunner_: passwd is made by the shadow package
12:05 < kasc> moin
12:18 < netrunner_> kasc: ok. I built stage 1 (almost) successful. now I wanted to boot the root, login and continue with stage 2, since I need an devfs-enabled kernel. am I wrong there? shadow is stage3 ... so I can not login.
12:22 < kasc> i dont think its a good idea to try to boot anything before stage 5
12:23 < kasc> it should be easier to build a devfs enabled kernel on your host system and boot that
12:23 < netrunner_> kasc: I can not reboot the machine I built on. so I need a second machine with devfs and continue building there.
12:24 < netrunner_> kasc: i have some kind of rescue cd with devfs here, but that freezes at "freeing kernel memory" :(
12:25 < kasc> what about booting the second machine with the devfs enabled kernel, mount / from the other box via nfs and do the complete build on that box?
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12:27 < kasc> have a look at Documentation/nfsroot.txt in your linux source tree
12:27 < netrunner_> kasc: oh, you mean not the build/bla/root but the original root?
12:27 < kasc> the original root as the build/*/root should not be bootable at that stage
12:28 < netrunner_> kasc: well, it boots up, but you can not login :)
12:28 < kasc> or you chroot to the builddir and make shadow by hand
12:30 < netrunner_> I already did the nfsexport / boot via nfsroot thing, and it works. but the root is missing important parts, since I did not begin stage 2
12:31 < kasc> you would at least have to build by hand everything needed for further building
12:33 < netrunner_> omg, things get really complicated now ;)
12:34 < kasc> IMHO you will need at least a completed stage 3 build to be able to finish the build
12:35 < netrunner_> kasc: I chrooted to the build/def../root now and build shadow. I'll see if that helps :)
12:36 < netrunner_> kasc: the problem is, as I reported to the list, some packages have problems being cross-built. and for some error with the host_arch and build_arch vars, some packages think they are cross-built even if they are not, and fail.
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13:40 < netrunner_> hm ... found an old drock iso, maybe this is ok for building
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13:47 < esden> good morning
13:48 < kasc> morning esden
13:49 < ruddur> hi esden
13:54 < esden> hmm ... I think I will have to improove the vim syntax highlighting for .desc files ... >_< ... the # comments suck anyway ... >_<
13:57 < netrunner_> hi esden
14:06 < _NULL> *yawn* morning
14:10 < esden> morning owl
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14:11 < _NULL> hi esden
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14:18 < hasi> hello
14:23 < hasi> is my bunny here?
14:25 < kasc> who is your bunny?
14:25 < netrunner_> my bunny is over the ocean ...
14:26 < hasi> netrunner_: :(
14:26 < ruddur> my bunny like over the ocean
14:27 < hasi> ruddur: :(
14:27 < ruddur> yes yes
14:27 < hasi> where is the love?
14:27 < _NULL> not existent.
14:29 < hasi> what is love?
14:29 < _NULL> an illusion
14:30 < _NULL> and hasi seems to be a bot
14:30 < ruddur> bad english
14:31 < ruddur> my bunny lies over the ocean
14:31 < ruddur> my bonnie lies over the ocean
14:32 < hasi> is love rock u ?
14:32 < ruddur> bugs bunny song
14:34 < hasi> is rock realy better then sex?
14:35 < kasc> 'lies' over the ocean? must be a big bunny...
14:35 < ruddur> yes
14:35 < ruddur> mdr
14:35 < kasc> hasi: it is. it also lasts longer ;)
14:36 < hasi> do u have a girlfriend kasc?
14:38 < kasc> currently not
14:38 < A-Tui> whats the meaning of bunny?
14:45 < hasi> nobody like sex more then rock linux?
14:56 < esden> hasi: that is correct
14:57 < esden> when you once used rock ... you will always prefere it than sex
15:10 < hasi> hmm, i realy will love my bunny. bye ...
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15:12 < armijn> re
15:15 < netrunner_> esden: well, I am trying for a week now to build rock ... sex is definitely faster :)
15:16 < armijn> well, you should use the special "ROCK lubricants (tm)"
15:20 < netrunner_> armijn: I am sure you can reccomend some? ;)
15:21 < armijn> nah
15:21 < armijn> but good things should last long right?
15:22 < armijn> it should be something worth waiting for
15:22 < armijn> no guarantees though
15:26 < netrunner_> armijn: yeah , I started the compile now on the target machine, since the other host made problems not supporting devfs. But the target is a p-120 - cu next year :)
15:27 < armijn> heheh
15:27 < armijn> ok, bye >:->
15:29 < _NULL> hi armijn
15:37 < armijn> hi
15:45 < armijn> sigh, so much work to do
15:47 < armijn> am off
15:47 < armijn> later
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16:16 < esden> netrunner_: what about rock hard viagra ?
16:27 < netrunner_> esden: would you share yours? ;)
16:27 * -> esden sends one rock viagra pill over to netrunner_ 
16:29 < netrunner_> oh, thx. I'll save this one for the hard times :)
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16:31 < tcr> moin all
16:32 < netrunner_> hi tcr
16:36 < ruddur> hi tcr
16:37 < ruddur> what is the signification of moin " moin all "
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16:39 < esden> you better say for the soft times ;-)
16:39 < tcr> ruddur: moin is a expression of a german dialect and originally means 'morning', but can actually be used at any time
16:40 < tcr> it might be even a offical ROCK Linux greeting term ;)
16:40 < ruddur> thanks now i know
16:41 < esden> tcr: it is nearly like that ... ;-)
16:41 < _NULL> hi tcr
16:41 < esden> and moin tcr  ... so by the way ;-)
16:41 -!- _NULL is now known as owl
16:41 < esden> ahh finally ... 
16:41 < esden> well done owl 
16:41 < owl> esden: :P
16:42 < esden> owl: :*
16:42 < owl> esden: huh?
16:43 < esden> owl: :P
16:43 < owl> tsss
16:46 < esden> owl: freeing gases ???
16:46 < owl> not really...
16:50 < esden> but sounds so
16:51 < owl> maybe sounds so... but...
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16:59 < esden> please sign: http://www.petitiononline.com/zxcv7nm/
17:05 < ruddur> act
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18:04 < rxr> re
18:07 < huebi> Moin
18:08 < rxr> oh - hello hui
18:08 < kasc> moin rene
18:09 < rxr> s/hui/huebi/ ... ;-)
18:09 < huebi> hi rxr
18:11 < owl> hi huebi
18:11 < huebi> hi owl
18:12 < kasc> rxr: did you already actually try xfree86 4.3.0?
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18:12 < huebi> from tuesday on I should have a permanent internet connection in the office again.
18:13 < huebi> moin tcr
18:14 < tcr> moin huebi
18:24 < esden> hi huebi 
18:34 < huebi> moin esden
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19:59 < kasc> re
20:16 < kasc> brb
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20:22 < kasc_> re
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20:47 < tcr> hi tfing... re kasc
20:48 < tfing> yo
20:48 < tcr> yo yo, nigger, my bro!
21:12 < kasc> re
21:13 < kasc> uh, whatever ;)
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21:15 < Freak> still alive guys?
21:16 < capchaos> Still running Mandrake?
21:16 < capchaos> *g*
21:16 < tcr> nope, we went all to the stuffy and torrid realms of death
21:16 < Freak> still not answering what I'd like to reply.
21:17 < Freak> tcr: that is fine.
21:17 < tcr> well, we're just there for visiting owl, you know..
21:17 < Freak> hehehe
21:18 < Freak> yano
21:18 < Freak> I just remembered the good ol' times
21:19 < owl> hi Freak
21:19 < Freak> hey there owl
21:20 < Freak> .oO(I'm not here to fight so I'm gonna avoid to tease her by calling her a stinky bavarian.)
21:20 < Freak> .oO(oh my god.. I fear they can read my mind.. sh?t!)
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21:22 < tcr> she lately turned to be somewhat more distant on such issues. She at current time might even be able to hold herself on leash...
21:22 < tcr> yeah, i know that's terrible untypical for a women... but hey..
21:22 < tcr> it's still owl after all ;)
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21:28 < Freak> tcr :)
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21:57 < esden> re hi all
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22:02 < daja77> hi all
22:05 < esden> hi daja77 
22:05 < daja77> hi esden
22:06 < daja77> borrowed a laptop from my sister to try a rock compile on it
22:06 < esden> have fun daja77 ;-)
22:07 < daja77> hope so, the machine I used before was fscked up everytime :(
22:08 < ruddur> hi daja77
22:09 < daja77> bonsoir ruddur
22:09 < ruddur> houla
22:09 < ruddur> nice
22:09 < ruddur> in french
22:10 < daja77> I had french in school, I tried it in France last year ;)
22:10 < A-Tui> anyone knows where to download termtypes.ti.gz?
22:11 < daja77> what did the great google said?
22:11 < daja77> say
22:11 < A-Tui> no much
22:12 < daja77> could it be termtypes.tar.gz ?
22:12 < A-Tui> mmm in the rock source there are a link to tuxedo.org
22:12 < A-Tui> but seems to not run
22:13 < A-Tui> daja77 i dont know the "ti" is very strange
22:13 < tcr> oh tuxedo.org isnt in use anymore
22:14 < daja77> hi tcr
22:14 < A-Tui> tcr why?
22:14 < tcr> A-Tui: try the same url, but with www.catb.org/ instead of www.tuxedo.org
22:14 < A-Tui> ok
22:15 < tcr> ESR decided to move ..
22:15 < esden> bon soir A-Tui 
22:15 < esden> moin tcr 
22:15 < A-Tui> it seems to run
22:15 < A-Tui> thanks
22:16 < A-Tui> bon soir?
22:16 < ruddur> esden in one word
22:16 < ruddur> bonsoir
22:16 < esden> yes ... *sigh*
22:16 < tcr> A-Tui: would you be so kind and bug that on the mailinglist
22:16 * -> esden and writing >_<
22:16 < A-Tui> tcr ok, im new wqith rock linux
22:16 < tcr> go away with french... write a quiz in it tomorrow
22:17 < esden> urgh
22:17 < esden> I am sorry for you tcr 
22:17 < daja77> huch much you can win?
22:17 < tcr> A-Tui: well, then that's a good start point for you to get into ROCK ;)
22:17 < A-Tui> :)
22:18 < A-Tui> i will subscribe to it
22:18 < A-Tui> who is the mainanter spanish project?
22:19 * -> esden trying strawbarry kabba
22:19 < esden> A-Tui: Mike1 
22:19 < A-Tui> ok, is not spanish true?
22:20 < esden> what do you mean ...
22:20 < A-Tui> if he live in spain
22:20 < daja77> no
22:20 < esden> no he is from cr
22:21 < A-Tui> aha, ok
22:28 < esden> only one week ... and so any entrys in the CHANGELOG
22:29 < esden> it seems that the 1.7 work advances pretty well ;-)
22:33 < esden> one game is really missing: koules
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22:38 < daja77> there are more, if I get a usable rock distro out of the sources, I'd like to add some games
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22:54 < ruddur> bye all
22:54 < ruddur> see you tomorrow
22:54 < tcr> gn8 ruddur
22:54 < daja77> gn8 ruddur
22:55 < ruddur> bye
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23:47 * kasc kicks his computer
23:47 < daja77> hi kasc, did it help?
23:47 < kasc> hi daja77
23:47 < kasc> nope, didnt help
23:47 < Freak> yea
23:47 < Freak> kick it
23:47 < Freak> harder
23:48 < Freak> yes
23:48 < kasc> fscking box!
23:48 < Freak> heh
23:48 < daja77> kickin just work with russian devices
23:48 < Freak> heh
23:48 < daja77> at least with russian tv boxes
23:48 < kasc> i cant get DRI and GLX to work
23:49 < daja77> what card?
23:49 < kasc> Voodoo 3500 TV
23:49 < Freak> hey I got that one too
23:49 < Freak> now there's two of us!
23:49 < daja77> do you have kernel support for it?
23:49 < kasc> yep
23:49 < daja77> error message?
23:49 < Freak> kasc: I had that working before I reinstalled my box
23:50 < kasc> Freak: it was working with SuSE. Wonder what i'm doing wrong
23:50 < Freak> not sure what broke it.
23:50 < daja77> what error message you get?
23:50 < Freak> this is a debian box and it worked here as well.. yea I dont mind :)
23:50 < Freak> no
23:50 < Freak> guys
23:51 < kasc> daja77: it either just doesnt put the GLX extension
23:51 < Freak> you didnt hea that "debian" noise I just made
23:51 < kasc> or if it does, the graphics using GL is freaking sluggish
23:51 < daja77> you must have a line: load "glx" in you XF86Config
23:52 < kasc> with xscreensaver glclock i gto a framerate of about 0.8 frames per second...
23:52 < kasc> looks fscking ugly with a clock
23:52 < kasc> that line is already there
23:53 < kasc> somewhere on the web i found a site claiming the driver works only for 16 bit colors because the hardware supports the acceleration only with 16 bit.
23:54 < Freak> kasc: the funny thing is.. when I put it in, xawtv and other programs fail to start
23:54 < kasc> well when i try to run X in 16 bit color mode it wont find any display
23:54 < daja77> 16 bit is the best supported color depth on XFree this time :(
23:54 < daja77> error message?
23:55 < kasc> xdm error (pid 5390): Display :0 cannot be opened
23:55 < kasc> xdm error (pid 5390): Display :0 is being disabled
23:55 < esden> hmm ... nearly all packages here ... very well
23:55 < daja77> kasc: btw, it seems that you need the GLide lib to get the card working
23:56 < daja77> try reading http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/3Dfx-HOWTO.html
23:57 < kasc> and XFree86.0.log gives me a few hundred warnings about unresolved symbols...
23:57 < daja77> to what module?
23:57 < kasc> to _every_ module
23:57 < kasc> Symbol __guard from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a is unresolved!
23:57 < kasc> Symbol __stack_smash_handler from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a is unresolved!
23:58 < daja77> cool, seems that your X install is fscked up
23:58 < kasc> over a few hundred lines...
23:58 < daja77> please redo your X install and read the link I posted
23:59 < kasc> well, it works in 24bit mode, although it keeps warning
23:59 < daja77> the resolve warnings?
23:59 < kasc> yep
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