--- Log opened Mon Mar 10 00:00:02 2003
--- Day changed Mon Mar 10 2003
00:00 < daja77> can you post me your config and error logs plz
00:00 < kasc> dcc, query or email?`
00:01 < daja77> email would be fine
00:01 < esden> cu l8er
00:01 < daja77> <daniel@lospalmos.net>
00:01 < daja77> by esden
00:02 < kasc> mail sent
00:05 < daja77> was it a big mail?
00:06 < owl> gn8.
00:06 < daja77> gn8 owl
00:06 < kasc> n8 owl
00:07 < daja77> kasc: still haven't recvd anything
00:08 < daja77> let's try dcc, cos I want to go to bed soon
00:13 < daja77> have you selected the stack smashing protector option in scripts/Config ?
00:13 < kasc> yep
00:14 < kasc> was also my thought that this might break something here
00:14 < daja77> ok, so we know what the __guard thingies are ;)
00:14 < daja77> you mentioned that you had xdm running while playing with the config
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00:15 < kasc> after editing the config i killed the xdm and restarted it
00:16 < kasc> aaaaall byyyyy myyysehehelf *sing*
00:16 < daja77> is it so hard *g*
00:16 < kasc> it is!
00:17 < daja77> well, what about killing xdm and starting via startx
00:17 < kasc> well i cant add any further games using GLX to rock unless i can test them ;)
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00:17 < daja77> what gl games you wanted to add?
00:18 < kasc> foobilliard, flightgear (is already added but not tested) same with gltron
00:18 < kasc> i have about 10 gl games on my todo
00:19 < daja77> sounds cool, what about the startx try
00:20 < kasc> XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"
00:20 < kasc>       after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
00:20 < kasc> and some lines above that:
00:20 < kasc> Fatal server error:
00:20 < kasc> Caught signal 11.  Server aborting
00:20 < daja77> is there still some X crap running in memory?
00:21 < daja77> kill -9 xdm
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00:21 < rxr> hi
00:21 < daja77> hi rxr
00:21 < rxr> Mike1: are you online ?
00:21 < rxr> hi dej
00:21 < rxr> er daja77
00:21 < daja77> *g*
00:21 < kasc> nope, no X in background
00:22 < kasc> and with 24 bit color it works nicely
00:22 < kasc> hi rxr
00:22 < rxr> hi kasc
00:22 < daja77> it reads if it is trying to use some old sockets
00:23 < daja77> somehow X has "memories" of the 24bit settings in some old sockets or something like this
00:24 < rxr> does someone know if Mike1 was online today?
00:24 < kasc> daja77: i cant think how this could work
00:24 < daja77> try to delete some sockets in /tmp
00:25 < daja77> X is weird stuff, so don't worry
00:26 < kasc> still the same
00:26 < daja77> it still reads to me that is an X already running
00:27 < kasc> oh, and the link you gave me is far too old to be helpful
00:27 < kasc> there is no hint of X running in ps ax
00:28 < daja77> what X version do you have?
00:28 < kasc> 4.3.0
00:32 < daja77> haven't found something useful on www.xfree86.org, maybe you want to dig there again, I'll have to quit now, sorry
00:33 < kasc> thx anyways :(
00:33 < daja77> maybe I can help later
00:33 < kasc> later?
00:34 < daja77> later this day
00:35 < kasc> what TZ do you live in?
00:35 < daja77> Europe/Berlin
00:36 < kasc> ic
00:37 < daja77> well, then it is ok for now
00:38 < daja77> gn8 you all
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01:07 < esden> re hi all
01:07 < esden> kasc: you maintain games ?
01:08 < rxr> hi esden
01:10 < esden> hi rxr 
01:17 < rxr> re esden ;-)
01:19 < esden> ok copying rock-src-1.7 on v100
01:22 < esden> rxr: how good are scsi scanners supported ?
01:23 < rxr> hm?
01:23 < rxr> ah
01:23 < rxr> erhr on SPARC or in general?
01:23 < esden> on intel ... 
01:24 < esden> linux
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01:24 < rxr> most work very well.
01:24 < esden> I have a "mustek 800 IISP"
01:24 < rxr> http://panda.mostang.com/sane/sane-mfgs.html
01:25 < esden> ok stable
01:26 < esden> now I need a correct connector
01:27 < rxr> Did you read on the list that I managed to get an additional SCSI disk into my U5 as well as an Adapted controller ;-) ?
01:28 < esden> I think I oversaw that 
01:28 < esden> but ... congrats
01:28 < rxr> normally it is shipped with crippled IDE fluff ...
01:29 < esden> we really need a minimal/server target ...
01:29 < esden> that would help creating test builds ... with only the most importaint packets
01:29 < rxr> ACK
01:29 < rxr> this is on my todo  - as well as automated regression tests ...
01:30 < rxr> but should I really raise the desktop and server target on me?
01:30 < esden> no you should not ... if you ask me you have enough work already ...
01:31 < rxr> maybe you start the server target ?
01:31 < esden> I am thinking about it
01:32 < esden> but first I have to get some routine in my time schedule that is pretty corrupted since I moved from home
01:33 < rxr> do you have holidays, too ?
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01:35 < esden> yes I have ... but I have to learn for an exam in three weeks ... and gather some "scheine" so that I have more spare time in the semester
01:36 < dreamind> Hi :)
01:36 < dreamind> hi esden
01:37 < esden> hi dreamind 
01:37 < esden> hmm ... and dietlibc target is broken too ...
01:37 < esden> *sigh*
01:52 < esden> sparc build started
01:53 < dreamind> night ;)
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01:57 < rxr> ;-)
02:00 < esden> I am really excited how well it will work
02:01 < esden> you are building the desktop target on sparc ?
02:01 < rxr> how many bits, which optimization and do you use a 64bit kernel in the config?
02:02 < rxr> and which gcc ;-)?
02:03 < esden> gcc3 "build 64 bit user-space SPARC (v9 - Ultra SPARC)" " No special optimisation"
02:03 < esden> other things are default
02:03 < esden> and the system I am building on is debiat
02:03 < esden> debian even
02:05 < rxr> 64bit userspace does not work yet
02:06 < rxr> use 32bit userspace a 64 bit kernel (which is not cased in the config yet) and optimize for Ultra SPARC ...
02:06 < rxr> or you debug seg-faults in the libc and so if you use 64bit user-space ... :-(
02:07 < esden> *sigh* ... ok I restart the build
02:08 < rxr> I guess I need to write a help-file for SPARC ? ;-)
02:11 < rxr> your SPARC is bleeding fast, istn't it ?
02:12 < esden> hmm ... in the moment I said that I stop the build it was building glibc23 ... but I think that it is not very slow ... it has 1G ram ... 
02:12 < rxr> and how many Hz ?
02:12 < esden> cpu             : TI UltraSparc IIe
02:13 < esden> fpu             : UltraSparc IIe integrated FPU
02:13 < esden> Cpu0Bogo        : 999.42
02:13 < rxr> so 500 Mhz ?
02:13 < esden> yes
02:13 < rxr> hm
02:13 < esden> something abouth this
02:14 < rxr> Could you organize another one? My U5 @270Mhz and 128MB RAM sleeps during compiling ...
02:14 < esden> no ... the one I have is only borrowed
02:15 < esden> and I will have to give it back in 1 or two weeks
02:15 < esden> but I will see what I can do
02:15 < rxr> oh :-( On teh CCC I tought they likely do not need it back ...
02:17 < esden> the machine belongs to the guy that sat in the middle between me and fake ... the one who owned the second one
02:17 < esden> he needs it for a project
02:18 < esden> I hope that when I give it to him and he finishes his project for which the machines are I get it back
02:18 < esden> that would be very very good
02:18 < rxr> yes
02:19 < rxr> I'll not invest in SPARC ... If s.o. comes with a good price I might get another one - but otherwise my next box is a dual Athlon-64 ... ;-)
02:20 < esden> yes that is a very good choice
02:20 < esden> we need the machines so we can push the Hammer port 
02:20 < rxr> or maybe a iBook if my laptop breaks
02:20 < esden> that is also a thing I thought about
02:21 < esden> but I think that before I buy me a new laptop I need a faster intel machine
02:21 < rxr> The iBook is so great - if it would have an PCMCIA slot and a better keyboard it would ROCK
02:21 < esden> get a powerbook ;-)
02:21 < rxr> They look ugly and they are too expensive ...
02:22 < esden> yes that is right
02:22 < esden> hmm ... hannes is sleeping >_<
02:22 < rxr> hm?
02:22 < esden> hannes is the v100 guy
02:23 < esden> ohh ... I really have to go to bed
02:23 < esden> >_<
02:23 < rxr> ok cu
02:23 < esden> tomorrow I have to hold a lecture >_<
02:24 < esden> ok ... good night
02:24 < rxr> viel erfolg !
02:24 < esden> thanks
02:36 * rxr 140kB/s GNOME-22 source downloading
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04:14 < rxr>  /qui
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08:21 < blindcoder> moin
08:47 < kasc> moin
08:59 < blindcoder> hi kasc
09:01 * blindcoder updated to icewm 1.2.7 with Xinerama-suppert *WEEE*
09:12 < owl> morning
09:12 < blindcoder> moin owl
09:31 * kasc hates xfree86
09:31 < kasc> moin owl
09:32 < owl> hi kasc
09:32 * owl hates visual studio.NET && c# *breaking into tears*
09:33 < owl> so, don't complain, kasc
09:33 < blindcoder> kasc: why? doesn't it compile?
09:34 < kasc> blindcoder: partially this and i cant get the GL extensions to work
09:35 < blindcoder> which card?
09:36 < kasc> Voodoo 3500 TV
09:36 < fronti> kasc: mine -r nvidia
09:36 < kasc> nvidia?
09:36 < blindcoder> hmm... modprobe tdfx and 'Load "dri"' in /etc/X11/XF86Config ?
09:37 < kasc> tdfx is compiled into kernel both for fb and for dri here
09:37 < blindcoder> kasc: yees, mine -r -v -R / nvidia to remove the nvidia package and their opengl things
09:38 < blindcoder> then install mesa
09:38 < kasc> and dri should be loaded from XF86Config
09:38 < kasc> never installed any nvidia drivers
09:38 < kasc> and i tried mesa, too
09:39 < blindcoder> hmmm.... loading dri and haveing tdfx should be enough IIRC
09:40 < kasc> i read somewhere something about that chip supporting acceleration only for 16 bit colors, but with 16bit my x doesnt even start up
09:40 < blindcoder> did you install the extra dri-package?
09:41 < kasc> what extra dri package?
09:42 < blindcoder> http://dri.sourceforge.net/downloads.phtml
09:42 < kasc> i did install xfree86 as is comes with rene's package...
09:42 < blindcoder> search for 3dfx and voodoo3 in that page
09:43 < fronti> dri works here with renes package, after i remove the nvidia package.. i'm using a matrox card
09:46 < kasc> i'll try that as soon as i got my xfree86 running again at all ;)
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11:31 < daja77> moin
11:34 < blindcoder> hi
11:34 < daja77> hi blindcoder
11:34 < owl> hi daja77
11:34 < daja77> wb owl
11:35 < owl> god! it's such a crap!!!
11:36 < daja77> huh?
11:36 < owl> someone has experience with this stupid .NET stuff? - and knows how to define 'references' (to another project/workspace/class)  into c#??
11:37 * blindcoder fading into the shadows
11:37 < owl> blindcoder: *g*
11:37 < owl> mv /dev/world/bullet /dev/owl/head
11:38 < daja77> the mv will be too slow
11:38 < blindcoder> so she'll only get a major headache :)
11:38 < owl> damn it...
11:38 < daja77> /dev/world/bullet is the wrong device anyway
11:39 < owl> uh... bad luck
11:39 < daja77> try /dev/gun/bullet
11:39 < owl> oh... maybe this...
11:40 < owl> thx
11:43 < daja77> I explained your query to the great google and he answered me this
11:43 < daja77> http://www.mastercsharp.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=18&&TopicID=4
11:43 < daja77> hth
11:44 < huebi> Moin
11:44 < owl> hi huebi
11:44 < huebi> hi owl
11:44 < owl> thx daja77
11:44 < daja77> hi huebi
11:45 < daja77> owl: no problem
11:45 < blindcoder> moin huebi
11:45 < owl> daja77: but anyways - doesn't help...
11:45 < daja77> owl: this might happen if you leave all the interesting details
11:46 < owl> daja77: nope...
11:46 < owl> The type or namespace name 'Converter' could not be found (are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?)
11:46 < owl> my error...
11:46 < blindcoder> *LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL*
11:46 < blindcoder> http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=4622
11:48 < daja77> hehe
11:49 < daja77> owl: I do not fiddling with .ARG but in most cases the compiler is right
11:49 < owl> hmm....
11:50 < daja77> owl: make a break, reread your code, and your mistake will show up (at least I hope so)
11:51 < daja77> rot13 .ARG and you'll see ;)
11:51 < owl> my mistake - nobody at this company ever used this fscking .net-crap, and i'm the only one who is forced to code in c# and we have no books or so.
11:52 < daja77> then tell them to buy some, you can't get even support on the net for this crap without being registered
11:53 < owl> hmm... i told them about 10 times, that i need a fsckin book... but always the same "use google."
11:56 < daja77> muhaha, google only works on free software
11:56 < daja77> maybe you can ask the mono guys
11:57 * blindcoder now asking his nethack :)
11:58 < owl> daja77: tell my boss this fact... and tell him, that i need more money ... :P
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11:58 < daja77> owl: what about getting a better job?
12:00 < owl> daja77: i'm in "ausbildung"...
12:03 < daja77> daja77: why do we have this thing in this fscking country that people who are in company to learn have to do all the crap the regulars (with the big salary) are too stupid for
12:04 < daja77> *lol* too stupid for me *gnaaarf*
12:05 < owl> cuz we are in a wonderful country... and: don't forget - where the people who should (theoretically) get the stuff teached by someone, have to learn the stuff by themselves...
12:06 < blindcoder> daja77: simple: because the people "in charge" never learned the stuff the apprentice must know after 3 years
12:08 < daja77> well, here at my $orkplace I'm the only one who is able to run the linux box which serves the NT Clients, if I'm leaving the'll have trouble
12:08 < kasc> WOOOHOOOO!!!! Finally i got that bitch running! :)
12:08 < daja77> kasc: what was it
12:08 < blindcoder> daja77: dare to ask me about my job?
12:09 < blindcoder> kasc: nice :)
12:09 < kasc> dunno, i'll try to find that out now ;)
12:09 < daja77> blindcoder: I'm fearless ;)
12:10 < blindcoder> daja77: hehe. I'm currently administrating the wholo Siemens ICN IntranetWebservers in Germany, scripting together a bunch of scripts to automate creation/deletion of db4web, tomcat, apache, php et al and probably won't be here anymor in october
12:11 < daja77> blindcoder: Congrats, for your leaving, I do not feel sorry for them
12:11 < blindcoder> and no, there's no one here who understands 'var=${foo%$bar}'
12:11 < daja77> of course not
12:12 < blindcoder> try searching a man-page or google for what that line does :)
12:12 < daja77> sorry, I that was not the point I wanted to make
12:13 < blindcoder> sure :)
12:14 < daja77> the guy who wants to sell equipment to my father's school told me, that the schools cannot give up windows totally, coz the poor suckers in the industry still need it
12:15 < blindcoder> yes they do, because they want to.
12:15 < daja77> he was quite unsure when stated that I don't care
12:15 < blindcoder> *lol*
12:16 < daja77> at least he admitted that his company is unable to run the school's computers at the costs that I'm doin
12:17 < blindcoder> hmhm
12:18 < daja77> zero, can easily converted to every currency
12:18 < blindcoder> ne calculator required :)
12:19 < daja77> rechecking math knowledge of graduates this time, calculator with algebra system is *required*
12:22 < kasc> daja77: there is absolutely nothing different
12:22 < kasc> it just chose to work
12:23 < daja77> huh?
12:24 < kasc> the XF86Config doesnt contain anything it didnt already contain when it didnt work
12:24 < daja77> so you have rebooted the machine?
12:24 < kasc> nope, not even that
12:25 < daja77> so you did nothing, and now it works the way it should be
12:25 < kasc> i started to build xfree86 by hand, but neither was the build through nor did i install anything from that tree
12:26 < daja77> there must be a reason why it is called X *Windows*
12:27 < kasc> daja77: nope, must me something else... it didnt need a reboot so it cant be windows ;)
12:27 < daja77> windows moves on, hehe
12:33 < tibit_> daja77: Its called "X  Window System" not "X Windows" :)
12:34 < daja77> I see, that there is still hope, *sigh*
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13:28 < kasc> re
13:29 < kasc> well in fact there are indeed differences to my x now...
13:29 < owl> re kasc
13:29 < daja77> wb kasc, what is it?
13:30 < kasc> daja77: i compiled without -fstack-protector and i installed the binary-only (ugh) glide libs from dri.sourceforge.net
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13:34 < daja77> so I was not completely wrong last night
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13:37 < kasc> the problem with voodoo3 is that most urls are terribly outdated
13:37 < daja77> just like the hardware *g*
13:38 < dreamind> hi
13:38 < daja77> hi dreamind
13:38 < kasc> unfortunately, yes
13:40 < owl> hi dreamind
13:40 < kasc> hi dreamind
14:08 < esden> hi all
14:09 < daja77> hi esden
14:11 < blindcoder> hi esden
14:14 < owl> hi esden
14:23 < kasc> hi esden
14:23 < daja77> kasc: can you run the desired games now?
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14:28 < kasc> FlightGear doesnt work, but i currently cant rebuild anything coz i'm currently building for another box
14:29 < daja77> have you put the data files at the right place?
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14:29 < kasc> foobillard works and looks great... i just cant play billard ;)
14:30 < blindcoder> kasc: who cares? cgoban and gnugo work like a charm here... but I just suck at Go m:)
14:30 < kasc> dont think so, but i want to do a rebuild before messing the package over
14:31 < kasc> i'm currently building asc by hand
14:31 < daja77> ?
14:31 < kasc> advanced strategic command. a battle isle clone
14:32 < kasc> if it works i'll probably be off some days to weeks testing that one ;)
14:32 < daja77> hehe
14:32 < kasc> especially as it can import battle isle II mission files and my box is way too fast to play that directly ;)
14:33 < daja77> if you haven't enough already you might want to have a look at http://ltag.blaxxtarz.de/index.php?n=mat
14:33 < kasc> what is it about?
14:34 < daja77> a list of linux games and other ressources
14:34 < kasc> kewl, thx
14:40 < kasc> wonder how long it takes till rock 2.0 is released...
14:40 < daja77> it is no wonder, so broken as it is, you can't release
14:41 < kasc> if it takes too long, there might be more games than packages in base *fg*
14:41 < daja77> that wouldn't be a problem
14:42 < daja77> as long as games are not installed per default
14:44 < kasc> we would have to rename the subtitle of rock linux from 'the admin friendly distribution' to 'the g4m3rZ fr|3ndly |)i57r|bu7|0n' ;)
14:44 < daja77> In that case I must leave rock :(
14:45 < kasc> why that?
14:45 < kasc> dont you like games?
14:46 < daja77> I like them, if Ik have to run a games booth, I don't need them at work
14:46 < blindcoder> daja77: theres that neato category called 'application/game'. Don't install it if you don't want it
14:46 * blindcoder going home. byebye
14:47 < daja77> bye blincoder
14:47 < kasc> bye blindcoder
14:49 < owl> bye blindy
15:18 < esden> puhh
15:18 < esden> ok ... some keys signed ...
15:19 * -> esden pleeds for a key signing party on the next rocklinux developer meeting
15:20 < esden> kasc: are you here ?
15:20 * -> esden thinks that kasc ignores esden's existence
15:45 < kasc> i'm here
15:47 < kasc> esden?
16:04 < esden> ahh ...
16:04 < esden> kasc: you maintain games ?
16:04 < esden> if yes add koules ;-)
16:04 < kasc> yep
16:05 < kasc> hehe
16:05 < esden> http://www.ucw.cz/~hubicka/koules/English/koules.html <-- there it is ;-)
16:06 < esden> will you do it for me ?
16:08 < kasc> lemme have a look at it first ;)
16:10 < esden> it is good ... !!! it is one of the best games I know !!
16:10 < kasc> and it doesnt build out of the box :/
16:10 < blindcoder> koules _should_ build ootb
16:11 < esden> hi ho blindcoder !!! *hug*
16:11 < blindcoder> rehi esden
16:11 < blindcoder> *rehug*
16:11 < esden> blindcoder: you could also insert the packet ;-)
16:11 < blindcoder> nah, I think I'll leave the games things to kasc
16:12 < kasc> hehe
16:13 < kasc> something with shm seems to be broken
16:13 < blindcoder> esden: btw: icewm 1.2.7 has Xinerama support!!!!
16:14 < esden> cool ... finally
16:14 < blindcoder> it has it since 1.2.4 but the ROCK package didn't get updtaed since 1.2.2 >_<
16:14 < esden> hmm ... not good ... it was building out of the box the last time I tried it
16:14 < esden> urgh ... blindcoder send update ;-)
16:15 < blindcoder> esden: already sent it to rxr since it' his package
16:15 < blindcoder> oh, and I played a little withe icewm's programs file
16:15 < blindcoder> kinde sweet :)
16:16 < blindcoder> let's you say that licq is automatically on all desktops and may not be cowvered when you maximize a window :)
16:17 < blindcoder> with XFree86 4.2.0 I also managed to get OpenGL on my nvidia card and running the 3dfx card without acceleration at the same time, too :)
16:17 < blindcoder> so now I have the ultimate desktop at home :D
16:18 < daja77> hehe, try to explain the *ultimate* part to windows luser
16:18 * owl kicks daja77 to /dev/hell
16:18 * Mike1 bites owl
16:18 < owl> hi Mike1
16:19 < Mike1> moin all
16:19 < esden> hi Mike1 *hug*
16:19 < blindcoder> daja77: dual haed 1280x1024x16 on two screens, hardware acceleration, 32bpp, 100+ fps in jedi knight 2
16:19 < daja77> hi Mike1
16:19 < blindcoder> hi Mike1
16:19 < owl> daja77: maybe you have heard of people who are forced to use it!?! *grrrrrr*
16:19 < Mike1> Gott segne dich esdy
16:19 < blindcoder> daja77: ultimate enough?
16:19 < esden> *GG*
16:19 < daja77> blindcoder: indeed, but $blah doesn't run on it
16:20 < esden> blindcoder: get another two cards ... then you have an ultimate quadhead desktop system ;-)
16:20 < blindcoder> esden: if you gimme your two HP Monitors then I'l get myself a Parhelia :D
16:20 < daja77> owl: I did not speak to you this moment, we talked about kewl windows xp gamers
16:21 < blindcoder> daja77: right, because Winblows is too stupid to use these monitors
16:21 < owl> daja77: k.
16:22 < daja77> blindcoder: some people just need a fast pc to see a xp windows moving while dragging
16:23 < daja77> blindcoder: so what do you expect from them
16:23 < blindcoder> daja77: that they jump out of a 10th floor window
16:24 < daja77> blindcoder: hehehe, it would create new jobs in the funeral business, yeah
16:25 < owl> oh hopefully they will really do... but... who should write business letters if "sekretaerinnen" are jumping out of the window?
16:25 < blindcoder> owl: if the team assistants are al out, then you will have to type my letters :D
16:25 < blindcoder> *runninng away*
16:25 < daja77> well, the secretaries I know are too stupid to write an email, I'll not miss them
16:26 < owl> blindcoder: i guess you want to be shot, don't you? - but - i'm glad... i'm not in your team
16:26 < owl> daja77: *g*
16:27 < daja77> one of them specialized in writing mail with the whole content quoted
16:27 < esden> blindcoder: grrr
16:27 < owl> she's blonde, isn't she?
16:28 < daja77> dunno, don't care
16:30 < daja77> btw, there were rumours that some offices didn't answer mails, cos they couldn't put a stamp on it
16:30 < owl> fsck... someone is willed to shot me, please? and please _now_
16:30 < daja77> no, it is forbidden, even if I wanted to eat you
16:31 < owl> daja77: don't care. i will write a letter (cuz i can it, i'm not a blonde secretary) - that it was my will *hrhr*
16:31 < esden> ohoh ... DHR is coming ... hide everyone ;-)
16:31 < owl> DHR?
16:31 < esden> you will see owl ;-)
16:31 -!- reutter [~daniel@ppp-62-245-162-70.mnet-online.de] has joined #rocklinux
16:31 < owl> *g* k.
16:32 < esden> yes DHR = reutter
16:32 < reutter> Hi all.
16:32 < owl> hi reutter
16:32 < reutter> What?
16:32 < daja77> hi reutter
16:32 < esden> hi reutter ;-) nice to meet you ;-)
16:32 < reutter> Hi Owl
16:32 < reutter> Yeah, whatever...
16:32 < esden> :P ... I like you too ... 
16:32 < daja77> owl: writing letters doesn't help
16:32 < esden> as food or so ;-)
16:32 < reutter> Hm...
16:33 < owl> daja77: whatever. simple: shot me!
16:33 < reutter> Who wants to be shot?
16:33 < esden> owl is willing to die ... *sigh*
16:33 < blindcoder> hi reutter
16:33 < esden> that gets boring
16:33 < blindcoder> esden: why *grrr* L
16:33 < reutter> Hi benji
16:33 < daja77> owl: don't have any missiles and no time to drive down to Munich
16:33 < esden> because I will not give my HP monitors away ... 
16:33 * -> esden hugs his monitors 
16:34 < blindcoder> reutter: I hope you're torturing esden enough while I can't do so?
16:34 < reutter> He is screaming in agony right now...
16:34 < reutter> I replaced him by a simple script, so no one will realize ;)
16:34 < blindcoder> good
16:34 < esden> blindcoder: you should be here ... it is less painfull having you around than reutter 
16:35 < reutter> I take that for a compliment.
16:35 < blindcoder> esden: hm.... that needs to be changed. Remind me of it when I'm next at your home :)
16:35 * -> esden running amok on the harddisk
16:35 < esden> ohoh ... that sounds promising blindcoder 
16:35 < esden> ruarrrr ;-)
16:36 < reutter> OK we should all stop calling those "Ruf-Mich-An"-phone numbers....
16:36 < esden> ehhmm ... hrm ...
16:36 < esden> well ... what were we talking about?
16:36 < Mike1> "that"
16:37 < reutter> Dunno... All people that are into masochism should raise their hand (or their chains, whatever)
16:37 * -> esden rises his hand inclusive a "streckbank"
16:37 * blindcoder raising a chainsaw, does that count?
16:37 < reutter> I admit, I actually *am* into masochism, too. I'm using X11 quite regularly.
16:38 < daja77> doesn't count
16:38 < esden> hmm ... so I should start using emacs ... should I ?
16:38 < daja77> no
16:38 < blindcoder> Than that would include every user of GNU software
16:39 < reutter> Sorry, but unattended raising of chainsaws isn't accepted as a counting vote. Ask the Supreme Court. *They* know how to vote, esp. in Florida
16:39 < esden> freedom for the arms !!!
16:40 < reutter> Well... yeah, kind of.
16:40 < daja77> esden: you don't want to have our idiots walking around with guns, will you?
16:40 < reutter> esden: But when the you bear arms in your arms, you would have a doubled vote, and therefore a not counting one.
16:41 < esden> sigh ... that is sad ... 
16:41 * -> esden aims his gun on reutter  ... is it a counting one now ?
16:41 < reutter> daja77: You are right. American idiots walking around with guns are enough.
16:41 < daja77> reutter: you're mutating into a sadist by talking like that
16:41 < daja77> reutter: indeed
16:42 < reutter> I am sadistic. No matter what. But I like to suffer a little bit too. Esp. when it's so colorful like X.
16:42 < esden> reutter: or quake III
16:42 < Mike1> reutter: get a monocrom monitor and colors will go away ...
16:42 < reutter> Well... getting fragged sux. No matter how good it looks.
16:43 < daja77> reutter: if you are unable to configure it properly, it is your problem
16:43 < reutter> Oh no, it's running quite well. As good as any X. I just don't like the idea behind all of it...
16:44 < daja77> X is a nice terminal multiplexer
16:44 < reutter> Yeah, but this is also true for VTs.
16:45 < reutter> Gimme a browser with framebuffer support and I would never startx again, except for the colours and the look of it!
16:46 < reutter> Enlightenment really gets heavy on your resources, but having a real Enterprise-Console on your screen is worth every MB of RAM used up.
16:47 < esden> reutter: use directfb ?
16:47 < reutter> esden: Nope. I *am* a masochist in that way.
16:48 < esden> directfb does have real alpha channel ... that is hurning pretty well ;-)
16:48 < esden> hurting even
16:49 < esden> hmm ... it seems that people start to die during this conversation ... :-/
16:49 < reutter> Better than shooting...
16:49 < daja77> not dying, working, much the same
16:49 < esden> words are better arms than everything I know till now
16:50 < reutter> Yeah, but without work one could never afford those nifty gadgets standing around in our rooms... isn't it so?
16:50 < esden> reutter: you may be right
16:50 < reutter> esden: You never got familiar with a tactical nuclear weapon, right?
16:51 < esden> they are too ultimate ... and working too fast ...
16:51 < esden> when you die you are freed
16:51 < esden> that is not hard enough 
16:52 < reutter> esden: Depends on how you use it... A 50 Megaton bomb up your ass can be a really slow pain...
16:52 < esden> I can also use a cola bottle ... and put it up your ass ... that is much cheeper
16:52 < reutter> Nah. Too easy.
16:53 < esden> yes typical of you ... why do it the easy way when you can do it the hard way ?
16:54 < reutter> Hard in every meaning of the word...
16:54 < esden> I do not want to know or hear what you mean with it ... *hides* 
16:54 < owl> cu later....
16:54 < esden> cu owl 
16:54 * reutter is thinking we should change to #sex-with-arms to continue our conversation
16:55 < reutter> cu owl
16:55 < esden> errm ... yes ... it is probably a good thing
16:55 < reutter> brb
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17:11 < Mike1> capy!!
17:13 < capchaos> mikey!
17:13 < capchaos> :)*
17:13 < capchaos> How's it going?
17:14 < Mike1> capy not bad, and you ?
17:14 < capchaos> Not bad either
17:15 * capchaos just too fscking tired
17:15 < capchaos> cu!
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17:16 < daja77> Mike1: preparing my sister's laptop for continuing my build
17:16 < Mike1> daja77: so i guess its good to have sisters with laptops :))
17:17 < daja77> yeah, in that case it is a mobile athlon 1600XP+ better than my other boxes
17:18 < Mike1> *g
17:20 < daja77> to say that clear I'm not against testing my machine with reiserfs, but I thought trying on another machine could be better
17:20 < daja77> at least I can tell her if her machine is working fine ;)
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17:32 < tcr> moin all
17:32 < daja77> hi tcr
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18:03 < esden> cu l8er
18:04 < tcr> hi daja77 ;)... cu esden
18:04 < daja77> cu esden
18:07 < kasc> wonder if that scummvm works...
18:08 < daja77> I know people who claimed it working, havn't tested it
18:09 < kasc> i'll know soon if my DOTT disks arent too old...
18:09 < daja77> lemme know
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18:20 * daja77 is away: shopping
18:21 < tcr> in chemnitz? das ist möglich? ;)
18:24 < kasc> it works... it works!! DIE WELT EROBERN!!! *MUAHAHAHAHA*
18:26 < tcr> well the english version of DotT is imho much better ;)
18:26 < tcr> kasc: do you know if there also some emulator for Simon the Sorcerer 1 & 2? I adored, nearly worshipped them
18:27 < tcr> still wearing a fan t-shirt of it sometimes ;)
18:27 < kasc> tcr: the scummvm even works with simon the sorcerer
18:27 < tcr> what's that after all?
18:29 < kasc> ScummVM is an implementation of the SCUMM (Script Creation Utility for
18:29 < kasc> Maniac Mansion) engine used in various Lucas Arts games such as Monkey
18:29 < kasc> Island and Day of the Tentacle.
18:29 < kasc> (from the README)
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18:46 < tcr> moin javito
18:50 < javito> hi tcr
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19:06 < esden> re hi all
19:07 < daja77> hi ruddur, javito
19:07 < javito> sers
19:08 < ruddur> hi daja77, esden, javito
19:09 < Mike1> ruddur.
19:09 < ruddur> oh sorry
19:10 < ruddur> hi Mike1
19:13 < javito> wasupo Mike1
19:16 < esden> v100 is terribly loud ... *sigh*
19:16 < esden> I love the silence of my intel box ... *irony*
19:17 < esden> but it is way less then the v100
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19:21 < Mike1> oi javito :)
19:21 * Mike1 away eating
19:22 < tcr> hi dreamind
19:22 < tcr> 'n guten @ Mike1
19:23 < dreamind> Hi tcr
19:38 < tcr> (o_
19:38 < tcr> U_/_
19:38 < tcr> hm
19:38 < tcr> should actually represent a pinguin ;)
19:39 < daja77> folded?
19:43 < tcr> no idea ;)
19:48 < Mike1> Gott segne dich tcr :)
19:49 < daja77> Mike1: are you a priest? ;)
19:49 < esden> a folded pengidn
19:49 < esden> *in
19:50 < esden> urgh ... that is not coffe ... that is water .. >_<
19:51 < tcr> esden: was that coff made by owl?
19:52 < esden> no .. by me ... but I had no more coffee pouder ...
19:52 < tcr> no wonder then, twerp! ;)
19:55 < Mike1> daja77: nah :)
19:55 < daja77> Mike1: good to know ;)
19:56 < esden> ok ... i go now swimming
19:56 < esden> cu l8er
19:56 < daja77> have fun
19:57 < esden> thanks will have ;-)
19:57 < Mike1> esden: cu :)
19:57 < Mike1> daja77: i just have a strong relationship with God :)
19:58 < Mike1> daja77: esden shares the feeling .
19:59 < tcr> esden: huh?! where
19:59 < owl> re
19:59 < daja77> wb owl
19:59 < daja77> esden went swimming
20:00 < tcr> yeah, but where? and at the current point of time..
20:00 < tcr> but that reminds me.. i actually wanted to shower..
20:00 < daja77> dunno, ask him later
20:01 < tcr> just finished the "Tips and Pitfalls" part of my user documentation... 240lines
20:02 < daja77> cool, brb
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20:03 < zer0_o> hi all
20:03 < tcr> moin
20:03 < owl> hi zer0_o
20:03 < zer0_o> was a loong time ...
20:16 * tcr taking a shower
20:17 < zer0_o> hf tcr
20:17 < javito> tcr is taking a shower!!!
20:18 < zer0_o> javito: lets bang him ,) looool
20:18 < javito> and i thought bush oil war was gonna destroy the world!
20:18 < javito> *bg*
20:18 < javito> dont do it tcr!!!!!!!!
20:19 < javito> please dont!
20:19 < javito> =)
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20:21 < zer0_o> *tcrbang*
20:23 < Mike1> tcr: water is forbiden for hackers..
20:23 < Mike1> tcr: ask Alan Cox!!
20:26 < tcr> why
20:26 < tcr> cant remember to a quote in which he should have claimed that
20:27 < owl> WEEEE!!! router up and running!
20:27 < tcr> though if you look at him, you might get the impression of that ;)
20:27 < daja77> congrats
20:27 < owl> thx
20:28 < Mike1> thats waht i had in mind :)
20:28 < Mike1> owl: OpenBSD router?
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20:29 < owl> Mike1: *lol* no isdn-support there...
20:29 < owl> but... fli4l *(y(eah, yeah. shame on me... ) - but better than tnoghtin...
20:29 < owl> but... damn... my connection is too slow, anyways
20:30 < tcr> wee, i'm still using my flipping winrouter
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20:36 < owl> re
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20:48 < kasc> re
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20:54 < demian> hi
20:54 < owl> hi demian, re kasc
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20:59 < reckcah> nick demian
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21:34 < daja77> re hi
21:36 < owl> re daja77
21:36 < demian> hi owl
21:36 < daja77> owl: aargh lost connection again
21:36 < daja77> hi demian
21:37 < demian> hi demian
21:37 < demian> :p hi daja77
21:37 < kasc> daja77: dott worked fine!
21:37 < kasc> even the music is great ;)
21:38 < daja77> kasc: fine, yes the music was cool
21:38 * kasc still has that white-red-blue tentacle flag waving in background ;)
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21:43 < rxr> re
21:43 < daja77> hi rxr
21:44 < owl> hi rxr
21:52 < rxr> hi all
21:54 * daja77 is back (gone 00:19:55)
22:24 < demian> hallo rxr
22:30 < demian> cya
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22:30 < javito> gn8
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22:31 < daja77> gn8 javito
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22:52 < owl> re
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23:03 < rudaway> bye all
23:04 < rudaway> good night
23:04 < daja77> bye ruddur
23:05 < owl> gn8 rudaway
23:05 < rudaway> ciao
23:09 < tcr> gn8 all
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23:16 < huebi> re
23:16 < daja77> re hi huebi
23:17 < owl> re huebi
23:17 < huebi> re zusammen.
23:17 < huebi> morgen gibt's wohl wieder internet
23:17 < owl> morgen erst?
23:18 < owl> ah so... heuter ist ja montag...
23:18 < huebi> jo, genau
23:18 < owl> sorry. bin verpeilt...
23:31 < fake> hi huebi !
23:32 < fake> ho owl
23:32 < daja77> hi fake
23:32 < fake> hi daja77
23:32 < owl> hi fake
23:34 < huebi> moin fake
23:39 < huebi> good night.
23:39 < huebi> cu tomorrow
23:39 < daja77> gn8 huebi
23:40 < fake> n8
23:40 < owl>  gn8 huebi
23:46 < rxr> cu huebi
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