--- Log opened Tue Mar 11 00:00:44 2003
--- Day changed Tue Mar 11 2003
00:04 < esden> good evening
00:04 < daja77> wb esden
00:08 < daja77> gn8 you all
00:09 < esden> n8 daja77 
00:09 < fake> hi esden!
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00:11 < esden> hi fake 
00:11 < fake> how's things?
00:11 < esden> pretty well thanks ... and how are you ?
00:12 * -> esden reading Belgariad-Saga ;-)
00:12 < fake> well, still too much work
00:12 < fake> esden: enjoy
00:12 < esden> fake: I already do it ;-)
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00:13 < tsa> hi all
00:13 < owl> hi tsa
00:13 < fake> hi tesa!
00:13 * -> esden is also everyday at the university and doing lot of stuff ... today I had a lecture to hold ... was pretty amusing 
00:13 < tsa> (where "all" probably means one or two, actually ;)
00:13 * owl thinks fake is in strange mood, today...
00:13 < esden> hi tsa 
00:13 * tsa thinks owl is in strange mood, always...
00:14 < tsa> hi owl, fake, esden
00:15 < netrunner_> esden: what kind of presentations are there these days? oh - tgi?
00:16 < kasc> moin tsa
00:17 < tsa> hi kasc
00:18 < esden> netrunner_: it was for a programming practice that is running currently ... I offered myself to talk about teamwork and interfaces
00:18 < tsa> hm...
00:18 < tsa> esden?
00:18 < esden> tsa?
00:18 < tsa> i have a cksum error for you..
00:18 < tsa> Cksum ERROR: download/esden/povray35/povuni_s-3.5.tgz.cksum-err (2438530522)
00:19 < esden> ohh an updated version ? good to know. thanks tsa 
00:19 * fake is never in no modd
00:19 < fake> mood
00:19 < fake> argh
00:19 < tsa> mud? ;)
00:19 < fake> double negations are 3v1l
00:20 < fake> i am in no special mood, i ment
00:20 < esden> fake = !!mood
00:21 < fake> i originally ment: fake != !!mood
00:21 < fake> perl is so ugly...
00:22 < esden> fake: tell us something new ;-)
00:22 < owl> if you're in no mood and you have no emotions, you're not alive. so - fake == dead?
00:24 < netrunner_> esden: so why do you hold beginners lectures for perl? ;)
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00:25 < fake> oh, i can't neglect having emotions. i just don't care right now ;)
00:25 < esden> because I used it ... I know it ... and it was not much effort to do it ... that is why
00:26 < esden> fake: do you ever care ?
00:26 < fake> esden: who cares?
00:26 < rxr> hi esden
00:26 < owl> everbody - but not fake
00:27 < rxr> hi all
00:27 < esden> owl: you better say : most people ... you should not globalize
00:27 < esden> hi rxr 
00:27 < fake> hi rene
00:27 < owl> re rxr
00:27 < owl> esden: ok. right.
00:28 < fake> q: how to deal with fake? a: don't.
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01:10 < tsa> cu all
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01:15 < owl> gn8
01:24 < rxr> cu
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03:10 < esden> n8
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11:42 < esden> good morning
12:08 < fake> mornin'
12:10 < blindcoder> moin moin
12:10 < esden> morning fake, blindcoder 
12:10 < blindcoder> my damn box at home keeps panic'ing like crazy >_<
12:11 < esden> I was starting to think that I am the only one alife in this part of the universe ;-)
12:11 < blindcoder> hehe
12:12 < esden> blindcoder: it is called crazyhorse ... right ?
12:12 < blindcoder> right
12:12 < esden> so do not wonder
12:13 < blindcoder> esden: but I don't like that state
12:13 < blindcoder> I don't know WHY it panics
12:14 < blindcoder> the best hint I got so far was the kernel complaining about a NULL pointer exception in snmpd
12:20 < blindcoder> esden: and now you seem to be dead
12:21 < esden> I do not say anything because I have no solution for your problem ...
12:22 < blindcoder> Well... I think that it's the PSU that makes problems...
12:22 < blindcoder> I hope that 3027 brings one along today
12:23 < esden> PSU ... causes kernel panics ? o_O you are kidding me
12:23 < blindcoder> not enough voltage --> memory errors
12:24 < blindcoder> dunno, but I _do_ know that my PSU has one problem or another
12:24 < blindcoder> I already tried disabling the snmpd, recompiling the kernel, all to no avail
12:25 < esden> ok ... but I still can not imagine that the PSU is the problem
12:25 < blindcoder> If a now PSU doesn't resolve this' i'm out of options
12:25 < esden> ok ... so try it
12:26 < blindcoder> mhm, now I just need 3027 to pick up the phone *grmpf*
12:34 < esden> hmm animatrix second episode ... sweet
12:35 < blindcoder> still haven't watched the first one...
12:35 < blindcoder> esden: you couldid encode both eps into divx for me )
12:36 < esden> I do not know how it has to be done
12:40 < blindcoder> `mencoder -ovc divx -oac copy -o animatrix_01.avi animetrix_01.mov` with a bit of -divxopts tweaking _should_ do the trick
12:41 < esden> will try 
12:44 < blindcoder> thanks :)
12:45 * blindcoder --> lunch
13:50 < esden> hmm ... the story of matrix reloaded and revolutions sounds pretty good
13:51 < blindcoder> didn't look into it yet
13:51 < blindcoder> http://www.crackmonkey.org <-- I _love_ this site :D
13:51 < esden> I found a polish fan site ... and they reveal some pretty interesting things about it
13:51 < blindcoder> esden: nice :)
13:52 < esden> reloaded and revolutions is one very long film that has been splitted in two
13:52 < blindcoder> esden: bah. so the same BS as with LOTR
13:52 < esden> yes
13:53 * -> esden getting dressed and -> uni
13:53 < blindcoder> *grrr*
13:54 < esden> o_O
13:54 < blindcoder> I hate it that you can sleep so long while I have to get up at 05:00 >_<
13:54 < esden> I went to bed at 5 in the morning
13:54 < blindcoder> *GRRRR*
13:54 < esden> I had to read a book to the end
13:55 < blindcoder> well, I think about leaving in half an hour
13:55 < esden> now I go to uni and try to get a webserver running on an rcx ;-)
13:55 < blindcoder> rcx?
13:55 < esden> yes lego mindstorms controller brick
13:56 < blindcoder> i see
13:56 < esden> or even a mp3 decoder or so ...
13:56 < esden> I need something cool for my next lecture ;-)
13:57 < blindcoder> ROCK
13:57 < blindcoder> ROCK
13:57 < blindcoder> ROCK
13:57 < blindcoder> :)
13:57 < esden> that will be difficult
13:57 < kasc> moin
13:57 < blindcoder> well, good luck then :)
13:57 < blindcoder> moin kasc
13:57 < esden> but also massive parallel computing with rcx would be a funny thing
13:57 < esden> moin kasc 
13:58 < kasc> parallel computing with lego's? how that?
13:59 < esden> and the best thing that I could work on would be reliable data connections between rcx's
14:00 < esden> kasc: yes ... when you need a inteligence ala velena in your robot you need something like this
14:00 < esden> till now I have used an external computer
14:00 < esden> but this is cheeting ... I do not like it
14:04 < blindcoder> esden: just put some legos around your 'puter and everythings alright :)
14:04 < esden> that is cheeting ;-)
14:04 < blindcoder> cheating, even :)
14:05 < esden> yes
14:05 < esden> *sigh*
14:05 < blindcoder> *sigh*, too
14:09 < blindcoder> esden: I've met Gecko a few days ago
14:09 < esden> good ... how is she ?
14:10 < blindcoder> fine as always :) and it seems like news of me taking dance lessons again spreads quite fast :)
14:11 < esden> I can imagine that ;-)
14:11 < blindcoder> yes... although until about a week ago it wasn't even sure _if_ I take some again
14:11 < blindcoder> esden: you'll be in IN this weekend, won't you?
14:11 < esden> yes I will
14:12 < blindcoder> good :)
14:14 < esden> *cry* I need a new backpack ... >_<
14:15 < blindcoder> why?
14:15 < blindcoder> did you just set your old one on fire?
14:15 < esden> no ... but it has a _big_ hole in the side
14:15 < blindcoder> brb
14:17 < blindcoder> oh
14:17 < blindcoder> so I should be walking along jst in case your laptop falls through :D
14:18 < esden> yes ... erm noo ... 
14:18 < blindcoder> hehe :D
14:19 < esden> this is what I need : http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/bags/57aa/
14:19 < blindcoder> nice :)
14:19 < blindcoder> esden: btw.: when was your bday and bday-party again?
14:20 < esden> the weekend after the 5 April
14:20 < esden> bday is the 5 April
14:20 < esden> and also the day I have to write an exam
14:20 < esden> >_<
14:21 < blindcoder> so the 10th of April?
14:21 < esden> yes
14:21 < blindcoder> k... *scribble* *scribble*
14:22 < esden> hmm ... blindcoder would you help me on the weekend buying some things from thinkgeek ?
14:22 < blindcoder> what things do you want?
14:23 < esden> the bag first ... but when I get something then I want to get more ... and I have to think about it ...
14:23 * -> esden thiking if he can get such a backpack also in germany ...
14:24 < esden> the shipping would be cheeper
14:25 < blindcoder> just tell me what you want because I may also buy some things
14:25 < esden> weee : http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/ladies/5981/action/20fd8e6/
14:26 < blindcoder> then we can prepare your part of the purchase and then I add what I want to it
14:26 < blindcoder> *LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL*
14:28 < esden> lol : http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/ladies/5981/action/20fcd0c/
14:29 < blindcoder> okay, I'm leaving early today. C U
14:29 < esden> cu 
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14:29 < esden> cu all ... /me leaving too
14:37 < fake> http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/ladies/5981/action/20fbd05/
14:37 < fake> she's sweet
14:38 < fake> i'd trade her for one ss20 ;)
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15:29 < tcr> moin all
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15:39 < reutter> Hi all...
15:40 < tcr> moin reutter
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15:40 < th> re
15:41 < tcr> moin th
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16:04 < esden> ok ... another signature gathered ;-)
16:06 < tcr> hm?
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16:07 < nosfod> hello
16:07 < tcr> moin
16:09 < nosfod> sorry for my stupid question, but i choosed athlon-tbird in the config and if i compile the only opimized packages are gcc and the kernel - what must i do to compile everything with -march=...
16:10 < tcr> sure they aren't optimized? Someone already claimed that, but it has been proven that he wasn't right. Look into the $pkg.log files (in /var/adm/logs) rather than on buildlog
16:11 < nosfod> yes i looked in $pkg.log but no -march=athlon-tbird in there
16:12 < tcr> hmm
16:12 < nosfod> in *-gcc.log is -march=athlon but not in the other pkgs for example mozilla
16:12 < tcr> hmm, i'm not really sure, but might there be a config option that has to be set on?
16:14 < nosfod> yes exactly that was my own question i cant answer my self :)
16:14 < esden> moin nosfod, tcr 
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16:14 < esden> tcr: my gpg key got signed 
16:15 < nosfod> i switched in ./scripts/Config optimization to athlon-tbird but it seems not the right thing
16:15 < tcr> heh ;)
16:15 < [dd]holyolli> moin
16:15 < esden> moin [dd]holyolli 
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16:15 < tcr> hi olli. You got among the evil clan players? :-(
16:15 < holyolli> ups...thx and hi esden
16:15 < tcr> sorry nosfod... can't help you.. esden?
16:16 < holyolli> tcr: not that really...but I used it to make somebody thinking about this... ;)
16:16 < holyolli> hi tcr
16:16 < holyolli> tcr: and btw. i hate cs and always loose in q3 ;)
16:17 < tcr> all recent games (say about of the last 5years) except for nethack are pathetic thoroughly
16:17 < holyolli> *g*
16:17 < holyolli> has anybody seen tsa in the last hours?
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16:18 < tcr> not really seen. but he sent an email to the list yesterday
16:18 < tcr> moin rubenh
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16:18 < tsa> moin
16:18 < tcr> huhaha
16:19 < holyolli> *lol*
16:19 < tcr> when talking of the devil...
16:19 < holyolli> moin tsa
16:19 < holyolli> tcr: exactly...
16:19 < tsa> hehe
16:22 < tcr> star trek in twenty minutes...
16:22 < nosfod> again my stupid question - do i have to change something other than the dialog box for optimization - i switched to athlon-tbird but if i compile or build and look in root/var/adm/log/9-mozilla for example there is no -march=athlon-tbird?
16:24 < holyolli> cu l8ter
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16:48 < owl> morning
16:51 < esden> good morning owl 
16:51 < owl> hi esden
16:51 < Mike1> Gott segne dich esden und owl
16:52 < esden> gott segne dich Mike1 
16:52 < Mike1> :)
16:52 < owl> hi Mike1. god bless you.
16:52 * -> esden needs food
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16:52 < Mike1> hi owlita
16:59 < esden> re
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17:24 < martin_> Hello all.
17:24 < owl> hi martin_
17:25 < martin_> Hmm, I have a (very simple) bash asks:
17:25 < martin_> #!/bin/bash
17:25 < martin_> ls * | while read y ; do
17:25 < martin_>         foo=bar
17:25 < martin_>         #echo "$foo"
17:25 < martin_> done
17:25 < martin_> echo "$foo"     # Don't work ?!
17:25 < martin_> hi owl
17:26 < Mike1> martin is foo=y?
17:26 < martin_> is foo a local variable ??
17:26 < tibit> a while loop may be executed in a subshell
17:27 < tcr> wrong
17:27 < tcr> E4 of the bash faq answers the question
17:28 < tibit> Oh, i did not saw he is using bash
17:28 < th> 17:25:18 < martin_> #!/bin/bash
17:28 < th> looks like bash
17:28 < tcr> http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-bash/2003-03/msg00037.html
17:29 < owl> bbl.
17:29 < Mike1> th back from holidays?
17:33 < th> Mike1: yea
17:34 < Mike1> th welcome back!, hope you enjoyed the holidays :)
17:34 < th> Mike1: yea. was great.
17:35 < Mike1> th: Andreas couldn't make it to get connection on the date spected, as we spoke before you left, he talked to me last night and he is supposed have conection today
17:36 < th> as he is supposed to since months
17:36 < th> poor him
17:37 < Mike1> th: the root disk issue is still there, so if you are still willing to solve it as you said you might do, please do so.
17:37 < th> ok. i still need some days to get back in sync with my other working fields.
17:37 < Mike1> th: yes
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18:11 < esden> re hi all
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18:12 < holyolli> re
18:12 < esden> re holyolli 
18:13 < holyolli> hi esden
18:18 < martin_> hi esden
18:18 < esden> hi martin_ 
18:20 < blindcoder> (argh(
18:20 < blindcoder> I need a Null-moden-cable >_<
18:34 < esden> I have one at home in ingolstadt
18:35 < blindcoder> hmmm... that will be too late, i need it to get the kernel oops on ttyS0
18:36 < esden> I could call my mother to give it to you ...
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18:37 < blindcoder> esden: hmm... nah, I already have the machine configured to catch the oops now, and it would take me 30 minutes to do it again, but thanks for the offer
18:38 < esden> denada
18:45 < holyolli> cu l8ter
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18:46 < blindcoder> esden: btw.: how's the presentation been?
18:48 < esden> it was very good ... now I have to make an other one ...
18:53 < blindcoder> about what?
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19:13 < ruddur> hi all
19:33 < netrunner_> buona sierra
19:35 < owl> re
19:38 < blindcoder> hi owl
19:39 < netrunner_> hm ... I'm building for three days now, and already reached 3-libol. but sometimes my screen gets flooded with 'lockd: cannot monitor <nfsserverip>'. What does that mean?
19:41 < owl> hi blindcoder
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19:51 < _NULL> re
19:51 < _NULL> aszlig: what's wrong with ssh && your server?
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19:51 < blindcoder> it's his, that's what's wrong :D
19:51 < owl> *cough* *cough*
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19:57 < blindcoder> oops
19:57 < blindcoder> that was the mrong sysrq key
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19:58 < owl> *grr*
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20:20 < daja77> hi all
20:20 < owl> hi daja77
20:22 < daja77> hi owl *g*
20:22 < owl> huh?
20:23 < daja77> should be a smile
20:23 < owl> a - s - z - l - i - g!!!!!!!!!!!!! your server is dead!!! *call*
20:23 < owl> daja77: ah so
20:25 < owl> (not just the server... aszlig seems to be dead, too)
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20:26 < tsa> re
20:26 < daja77> hi tsa
20:26 < owl> hi tsa
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21:05 < daja77> re
21:16 < kasc> auch re
21:17 < th> who is publishing out irc-logs?
21:17 < th> s,out,our,
21:17 < owl> hi th
21:17 < th> hi owl
21:17 < owl> i guess esden, isn't he?
21:17 < daja77> hi kasc
22:01 * daja77 has put his Linuxtag foils online
22:04 < dreamind> *yawn*
22:04 < dreamind> Hi ;)
22:04 < dreamind> huebi: are you there?
22:07 < daja77> hi dreamind
22:22 < dreamind> hi daja77
22:22 < daja77> nobody seems around here
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22:52 < daja77> gn8 you all
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23:00 < rudaway> bye all
23:07 < martin_> gn8
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23:10 < rxr> re
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23:31 < Mike1> owl
23:31 < Mike1> owl: alive?
23:40 < rxr> hi Mike1
23:40 < Mike1> rxr: !!!
23:41 < rxr> how are you ?
23:41 < Mike1> rxr stressed to death, workload is killing me, and you ?
23:41 < rxr> hm - it's not that bad here ...
23:41 < rxr> only my OpenSource projects could need more time ...
23:42 < Mike1> rxr: well... all my open source projects need time
23:42 < Mike1> rxr you recieve my patches?
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