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00:38 < esden> good evening everyone
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02:09 < rxr> cu
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02:33 < owl> wuah. remoin
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09:12 < owl> morning
10:54 < kasc> moin
11:02 < blindcoder> hi kasc
11:06 < owl> re
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11:41 < owl> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/anw-11.03.03-013/ << *ouch*
11:45 < blindcoder> idiocy
11:49 < owl> full ack
11:51 < blindcoder> "we need more people from outside our country!" Well, we don't have enough jobs for our own people, but we ned them..
11:52 < owl> of course. cuz the outside people are more qualified... (in Schroeder's sweetes dreams). what we need imho is more "ausbildungsplaetze" to get more young people... and a better "ausbildungssystem"...
11:54 < blindcoder> we need a system. where there is no system, you can't make it better=
11:57 < owl> hmm... or so... but - normally there is a system imho... not a good one, but a existent... but the ideas of what we're learning (at school e.g.) is crap imho... what will i need "betriebswirtschaft" for as programmer?
11:57 < esden> morning
11:57 < owl> hi esden :)
11:58 < esden> blindcoder: I have dumped the bchat logs and wiped out all old data
11:58 < blindcoder> esden: why?
11:58 < blindcoder> owl: ACK
11:58 < esden> blindcoder: what why ?
11:59 < blindcoder> esden: why have you deleted the log and data?
11:59 < owl> blindcoder: and IHK-stuff and especially exams are the worst crap ever produced by human imho...
12:00 < esden> blindcoder: errm because I wanted that they finally are out of the database
12:01 < esden> now you can find them in /root/bchat.log.sql.bz2
12:01 < blindcoder> esden: hmm.... I didn't see any need to clear the log or so, but... okay..
12:01 < blindcoder> owl: hehe, you haen't had your final test yet :D It gets worse each year :D
12:01 < esden> hmm ... everything I do ... or want to do does not make sence to you ...
12:02 * -> esden taking a shower -> that does not make sence too
12:02 < owl> blindcoder: oh yeah... great. thx. now my illusions are gone... but when i had a look at those fscking "zwischenpruefungen", i wanted to scream...
12:05 < blindcoder> owl: wel, we _did_ scream
12:06 < owl> blindcoder: *g*
12:06 < blindcoder> esden: sorry for not understanding
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13:17 < esden> re hi all
13:19 < owl> wb esden
13:19 < esden> blindcoder: ok ... I wiped it so that the database get's lighter ... and bchat can perform better ...
13:24 < blindcoder> rehi
13:24 < blindcoder> esden: the only thing when bchat ran slow was with creating the html-logfile, wasn't it?
13:28 < esden> no database was also slowing it down
13:28 < blindcoder> hmm... i see... okay, then maybe we should do this regularly
13:29 < blindcoder> say, onre a month?
13:29 < blindcoder> with kidnetting now also hosted on apollo, this might be something to look at...
13:29 < esden> I will do it from time to time
13:29 < esden> ok ... now mysql is not to see in top when I write something in bchat
13:30 < blindcoder> hmm... no, My thought was more along a cron-job using mysqldump
13:30 < esden> it was jumping on the top with 90% cpu usage everytime you wrote a line
13:30 < blindcoder> oh... okay
13:31 < esden> if you like you can do it ... but it is not nessesary if you ask me ...
13:31 < esden> wiping it once a year would suffice ... 
13:31 < esden> but we will do it when the new server is installed 
13:31 < blindcoder> okay
13:31 < esden> then we can make everything cleanly
13:31 < blindcoder> btw.: we need to change quite a few things in bchat for kidnetting >_<
13:32 < esden> aha ... why this ?
13:32 < blindcoder> because Vera said this was necessary
13:32 < esden> aha ... Vera ... ;-)
13:33 < blindcoder> for example: the kidnetting chat may only be used when there's a moderator there
13:33 < blindcoder> no private messages
13:33 < blindcoder> daily HTML-Logs
13:33 < esden> urgh ...
13:33 < esden> the girl is kidding me ...
13:33 < blindcoder> woman in late 20s
13:34 < esden> she behaves like a girl ;-)
13:34 < blindcoder> well, the private messages and daily logs isn't a big thing if you ask me
13:34 < blindcoder> no, she cares for the kids she has to take ccare for
13:34 < esden> yes I know ... but it is still work
13:34 < blindcoder> it is PR for bingo, and we can need every bit of it
13:34 < esden> *sigh* you are right
13:35 < blindcoder> of rourse I am :)
13:36 < blindcoder> you know, bingo might survive this year, but i the situation doesn't improve dramatically, we won't be around by the end of next year
13:36 < esden> yes I know
13:37 < esden> the moderator thingy is problematic
13:37 < blindcoder> hmm... I think  ihave a solution for that
13:38 < blindcoder> a little PHP-Script that chacks if either a mod is in the chan or the user is a mod should do the trick
13:39 < esden> yes ... that is right
13:43 < snyke> hm
13:43 < snyke> huh?
13:43 < snyke> what?
13:45 < blindcoder> snyke: nothing :)
13:46 < blindcoder> I like flames! (wrt admin-mailinglist >_<)
13:46 < snyke> yop
13:46 < blindcoder> I just regret that it wasn't me who started it :D
13:46 < snyke> :)
13:47 < snyke> hmm
13:47 < snyke> mmmh
13:47 < snyke> wasn't there a rule that a "normal" bingo member can only get 1 alias?
13:47 < blindcoder> snyke: erm... well... yes... I think that rule exists
13:48 < snyke> so why does Mr Baldauf not have to stick to this rule?
13:48 < snyke> he is a new member
13:48 < snyke> don't forget that
13:48 < blindcoder> that's a good question...
13:48 < blindcoder> I think it's because he is who he is
13:49 < snyke> a big azzhole?
13:49 < blindcoder> and I personally REALLY REALLY like it that Marino has cancelled the new election of Technik-Chef :D :D :D
13:49 < blindcoder> snyke: correct
13:49 < snyke> so why don't we try to kick him out of bingo
13:50 < snyke> if we () like () bingo () we should at least try
13:50 < blindcoder> Marino said that Mr. Baldauf may _not_, repeat _not_ have any access rights, lleading position or other higher" status
13:50 < snyke> that we just say "no" if he wants sth. to be done
13:50 < snyke> hehehe
13:50 < snyke> okay
13:50 < snyke> :)
13:50 < snyke> but he will have.
13:50 < snyke> he _will_have_
13:50 < blindcoder> no, he won't
13:50 < snyke> sure
13:50 < blindcoder> or else someone gets kicked by marino
13:50 < snyke> well I think you don't get my meaning
13:51 < snyke> he doesn't need the privs' himself
13:51 < blindcoder> hmm.. right...
13:51 < blindcoder> bbut personally I like it that I may just throw him out if I want to :D
13:51 < esden> puhh
13:51 < esden> hi snyke 
13:51 < blindcoder> esden: ?
13:51 < snyke> hi esden
13:51 < esden> blindcoder: some alias work done
13:52 < snyke> blindcoder: how?
13:52 < blindcoder> esden: hehe
13:52 < esden> blindcoder: have you took a look at koules ?
13:52 < blindcoder> snyke: easy: jb1350 does not have a key to bitz
13:52 < esden> do you get it runnig ?
13:52 < snyke> blindcoder: will he get?
13:52 < blindcoder> esden: no, not yet
13:52 < blindcoder> snyke: no, he won't
13:53 < blindcoder> not until he needs it, which means he must have a leading position, which he won't get
13:53 < esden> blindcoder: apropos jb1350 I made him aliases now
13:53 < esden> I left me a lot of time with it ... ;-)
13:53 < blindcoder> yes,  saw that... but that might cause problems as snyke pointed out
13:53 < blindcoder> jb1350 is a regular member now
13:53 < blindcoder> and one regular member == 1 alias
13:53 < snyke> not really "problem"
13:54 < esden> ohh ... really ?
13:54 < snyke> yes at least I thought so
13:54 < blindcoder> well, that's the last thing _I_ know
13:54 < esden> hmm ... so should I remove them ... 
13:54 < esden> *sigh*
13:54 < blindcoder> esden: stop
13:55 < esden> no I do not do it
13:55 < blindcoder> leave them, I'll talk to Zero about it, he knows jb1350's "status" best ATM
13:55 < esden> it is too late
13:55 < esden> ohh
13:55 < esden> or so 
13:55 < esden> ask him what to do with him
13:55 < blindcoder> jupp
13:56 < blindcoder> esden: read the flame-war on admin@, too?
13:56 < esden> the one that followed your answer ?
13:56 < blindcoder> yes
13:56 < esden> yes I have
13:57 < blindcoder> what do you think about it?
13:57 < snyke> kindergarten :)
13:57 < esden> snyke: ack ;-)
13:57 < blindcoder> snyke: that, too. We're talking about bingo, remember? :)
13:57 < esden> what should I think about it ...
13:58 < esden> I think that it was a mail written by commander/baldauf
13:58 < esden> to attack support ... 
13:58 < snyke> blindcoder: I don't think that it has always been that worse
13:58 < snyke> SERVICE
13:58 < snyke> :)
13:58 < blindcoder> hmm... possible
13:58 < esden> snyke: ROFL 
13:58 < snyke> esden: no. commander... don't think he does
13:59 < snyke> seen header?
13:59 < esden> blindcoder: but it is ok that you answered
13:59 < snyke> commander is not able to do such things
13:59 < esden> perhups it is really someone that needs helb
13:59 < esden> p
13:59 < blindcoder> esden: well, someone had to. And I think that I have more experience with angry customers than snyke :)
14:00 < esden> blindcoder: ACK
14:01 < snyke> :)
14:01 < snyke> esden: at least the hostname is auth.
14:04 < snyke> hey
14:04 < blindcoder> yeh
14:05 < snyke> erdi said that this might be covered by the "active" status
14:05 < blindcoder> what does he do?
14:05 < snyke> miba
14:05 < blindcoder> hmm... yeah, he may be right there
14:05 < blindcoder> still, he does not need a key to bitz
14:06 < esden> blindcoder: _ACK_ and he never will >_<
14:06 < blindcoder> and if Zero should give him on then I will personall kill him at a student's test with a bad mark!
14:06 < snyke> kay
14:07 < esden> blindcoder: he will be killed with the "kuendigungs schreiben"
14:07 < blindcoder> nah, not necessarily
14:08 < esden> it makes more fun using non conventional arms ... roll the sheet in a tube and stick it in the heart ... that is fun ;-)
14:08 < blindcoder> hehe
14:08 < snyke> lol
14:08 < blindcoder> esden: you relly have to watch Orphen
14:08 < esden> aha ?
14:09 < blindcoder> yes :)
14:09 < esden> give it to me
14:09 < esden> erm CCS
14:10 * -> esden watching CCS
14:10 < blindcoder> mkay
14:10 < blindcoder> I'm still DL'ing
14:10 < blindcoder> but I have to finish Escaflowne ASAP
14:10 < esden> yes you have
14:14 < blindcoder> Current  In:  40.1 kB/s (41.8%)
14:14 < blindcoder> oh well :)
14:23 < blindcoder> Current  In:  47.7 kB/s (49.7%)
14:23 < blindcoder> :D
14:28 < owl> hmm... ftp.leo.org != updated source mirror?
14:28 < blindcoder> dunno
14:32 < owl> hm. thx anyways.
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14:42 < tcr> moin all
14:43 < owl> hi tcr
14:52 * blindcoder going home
14:52 < Mike1> moin all
14:52 < owl> hi Mike1, bye blindcoder
14:53 < Mike1> yo owlita :)
15:03 < rolla> re Mike1
15:03 < rolla> re owl
15:03 < Mike1> hi rolla
15:04 < owl> hi rolla
15:04 < Mike1> rolla: sendmail is working pretty nicely on the "mike" box :)
15:04 < rolla> cool
15:11 < esden> owl: it should be up to date ... the last time I downloaded from it it was mostly complete besides new packages that were on no rock source server ...
15:13 < Mike1> hi esden
15:14 < esden> god bless you Mike1 
15:14 < owl> esden: stuff like download/kde31/<whatever> ? and download/x11/librsvg/* ?
15:14 < Mike1> God bless you too MPET :)
15:20 < esden> kero chan with a pen in his mouth looks funny ... *lough*
15:20 < esden> yes ... owl
15:22 < esden> hmm ... I should write an email to clifford ... *sigh*
15:54 < tcr> rolla: ping
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16:09 < rolla> tcr why ping me ?
16:09 < owl> rolla: tcr = n/a :P
16:36 < owl> <-- going home...
16:36 < owl> cu later
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17:16 < Mike1> *yawn*
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17:26 < Mike1> hi blindy
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18:48 < kasc> moin
18:49 < Mike1> moin kasc
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18:50 < blindcoder> esden: ping
18:50 < Mike1> hi blindy
18:51 < blindcoder> hi Mike1
18:51 < blindcoder> Mike1: thanks for the updates!
18:54 < Mike1> blindcoder: you are welcome :)
18:54 * blindcoder currently testing winex 3-pre1
18:55 < Mike1> blindcoder: how is it so far?
18:55 < blindcoder> rough around the edges... had a few system-lockups so far...
18:55 < Mike1> mm..
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18:56 < Mike1> hi ruddur
18:56 < ruddur> hi Mike1
18:57 < Mike1> blindcoder: i think clifford might get a bit pissed off for me sending seperate mails with patches for every repos, but i think its the best way to do it, don't you think?
18:58 < Mike1> blindcoder: so far i've sent over 22 patches
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18:59 < tcr> Mike1: dont think so, it's absolutely the right thing. This way all pkg maintainers get all information, and the likelyhood that some maintainer looks over a package is very low
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19:00 < blindcoder> like this one right now
19:01 < Mike1> how are you tcr?
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19:04 < tcr> Mike1: quite dismotivated.. somewhat :/
19:05 < Mike1> tcr: why so my friend?
19:05 < tcr> writing documentation etc is boring.. ;)
19:05 < tcr> probably that's it
19:06 < Mike1> tcr: what are you documenting?
19:06 < tcr> small library that implements C++ like exception in C
19:07 < Mike1> tcr: what about rock stuff?
19:09 < tcr> will install the next version of the drock ISO
19:09 < tcr> then I go on there, until that... nothing actually
19:10 < Mike1> tcr: i see
19:10 < Mike1> tcr: gee and i though i was demotivated ..
19:11 < tcr> but now??
19:11 < tcr> you saw that I', even more pitiful than you`?
19:11 < tcr> :)
19:11 < tcr> ;)
19:11 < tcr> actually
19:12 < Mike1> tcr: actually Rene Rebe is the one to blame for me getting my motivation back
19:12 < Mike1> tcr: lets hope you get your motivation back soon, we need you in the team you know.
19:19 < tcr> brb
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19:27 < snyke> ARGH
19:27 < snyke> DONGH
19:27 < snyke> DONGH
19:27 < snyke> DONGH
19:27 < snyke> DONGH
19:27 < snyke> DONGH
19:27 < snyke> DONGH
19:27 < snyke> esden?
19:27 < snyke> blindcoder?
19:27 < Mike1> snyke: ??
19:27 < snyke> some1 sent username and dialin password over a mailinglist
19:28 < snyke> because she wants the quota of her webspace to be increased
19:28 < rolla> ha ha
19:28 < Mike1> snyke: your username?
19:30 < Mike1> damn ...
19:33 < snyke> mine?
19:33 < snyke> no not mime
19:33 < snyke> mine
19:33 < Mike1> oks
19:51 < blindcoder> snyke: which list?
19:51 < blindcoder> snyke: mitglieder@bingo? :D
20:07 < snyke> ahm
20:07 < snyke> admin
20:07 < snyke> :P
20:07 < snyke> lets dialin ;)
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20:23 < tsa> hi all
20:23 < Mike1> hi tsa
20:23 < esden> re hi all
20:23 < Mike1> welcome back esdy
20:23 < esden> snyke: ???
20:23 < esden> re Mike1 
20:23 < rolla> re
20:23 < tsa> hi Mike1
20:23 < tsa> hi esden
20:23 < tsa> re rolla
20:24 < snyke> yes?
20:24 < snyke> esden?
20:24 < tsa> hi snyke
20:24 < esden> snyke: you wanted something from me ?
20:24 < snyke> wanted to show you how dumb users can be :)
20:24 < snyke> see admin@
20:24 < esden> hi rolla, tsa, snyke ... (/me feels like flooding the channel ;-)  )
20:24 < esden> snyke: yes Dusica ... or how is she called
20:25 < snyke> yep :)
20:25 < esden> that is our former cleanwoman or how it is called ...
20:25 * -> esden really needs his english improoved
20:25 * -> esden checking dict.leo.org for advice
20:26 < esden> charwoman
20:26 < esden> cleaning lady is also ok ...
20:27 < esden> ahh www.chilledbeats.org rulez
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20:33 < esden> Mike1: I had to revoke the wvdial update
20:33 < esden> I had big problems with this newer version
20:34 < esden> the older one is working perfectly
20:34 < esden> it needs some work to update to the newer version
20:34 < Mike1> esden: mmm... what kind of problems did you have?
20:35 < esden> it was not dialing ;-)
20:35 < esden> I can not remember the detiles ..
20:35 < tsa> details?
20:35 < tsa> ;)
20:35 < Mike1> esden: mm..
20:35 < Mike1> tsa: detalles :)
20:35 < tsa> aah! ;)
20:35 < esden> tsa: GRRR
20:36 < Mike1> esden: i will have a deep look into that once i finish updating the repos
20:36 < esden> do you have a modem ?
20:37 < Mike1> esden yeah :)
20:37 < esden> cool thing ... that retro thingys rule ;-) *lough*
20:37 < tsa> Mike1: don't tell him any details about your modem ;-)
20:37 < Mike1> esden external 3com 56k also and old 28k
20:37 < Mike1> tsa too late :)
20:38 < Mike1> esden its always fun to play around :)
20:40 < owl> re
20:41 < Mike1> welcome back owl
20:41 < owl> thx, Mike1
20:42 < esden> re owli *hug*
20:42 < owl> esden: *rehug* ;)
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20:43 < esden> hmm ... rocklinux mailinglist is _SLOW_
20:44 < esden> huhu kasc 
20:44 < owl> moin kasc
20:49 * Mike1 away having lunch ....
20:49 < Mike1> yes i know its late, i have been busy!
20:50 < esden> bon appetitt
20:50 < owl> Mike1: guten appettit.
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20:53 < owl> hi javito
20:53 < esden> hi javito 
20:56 < esden> ohh gosh ... that are many updates ... *sigh*
20:56 < esden> I hate repos renaming ...
21:07 < esden> argh ... I need a faster box >_<
21:07 < esden> *sigh*
21:13 < Mike1> esden: i am not finished with my updates BTW
21:14 < esden> that sounds frightening ;-)
21:14 < Mike1> esden: how come
21:14 < Mike1> ?
21:14 < esden> dunno ... I only wanted to say something ;-)
21:14 < Mike1> i've only submited 30 updates
21:14 < esden> otherwise it is so silent here ;-)
21:14 < Mike1> :P
21:14 < javito> hi evryone
21:14 < esden> hi javito 
21:15 < Mike1> yeah it's been really quite around here lately
21:15 < Mike1> oi javito
21:15 < esden> we have to change it Mike1 ;-)
21:15 < javito> sups Mike1
21:15 * -> esden making a lot of noise jumping around ;-)
21:15 < Mike1> javito: everything cool thanks
21:15 < javito> hola Mike1 sos de costa rica?
21:15 < Mike1> javito: si :)
21:15 < javito> kewl
21:16 < Mike1> esden: BTW i haven't look into the ircstats in a long time
21:16 < javito> vos por casualidad no estabas haciendo algo de ssh con un server un dia..
21:16 < esden> hmm ... me nither ...
21:16 < Mike1> javito: http://www.rocklinux.org/people/esden/gallery/
21:16 < Mike1> javito: you will find me there :)
21:16 < javito> wow I met a rockstar =)
21:17 < Mike1> javito: please export LANG=en_US
21:17 < esden> hmm ... huebi is still on top
21:17 < Mike1> javito: you mean esden right?
21:17 < Mike1> javito: what about ssh?
21:17 < javito> sorry i know en_US is the official rocklinux lang
21:18 < javito> dunno Mike1 one day i met a guy , dunno where, he told me about a project bringing up a sshd and rocklinux,
21:18 < javito> so i checked out and found he was running red hat..
21:18 < javito> he was from cr
21:18 < Mike1> javito: its ok with me to speak spanish, but i am sure someone else will want to know what we are talking about, so it is polite to simple speak in language everyone will understand
21:18 -!- rxr [~rxr@port-212-202-173-211.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux
21:18 < rxr> re
21:18 < Mike1> esden: you the second so..
21:18 < Mike1> hey Ren
21:19 < esden> huhu rxr 
21:19 < javito> esden is like essen?
21:20 < owl> hi rxr
21:20 < Mike1> javito: i have been testing rh8 but i will not do anything else than test it :)
21:20 < Mike1> javito: guess it was maybe demian
21:20 < Mike1> he is also from cr
21:20 < rxr> hi all;-)
21:21 < javito> dunno.. that was a time ago..
21:21 < javito> anyway
21:21 < Mike1> javito: ah well.
21:21 < javito> who cares.
21:21 < Mike1> javito: its good to see around rock :)
21:21 < Mike1> see you *
21:21 < javito> yeah
21:21 < javito> i mean..
21:21 < Mike1> javito: how long have you been using it?
21:22 < javito> i hate to admit i aint got the time to dedicate a day on building a rock box
21:22 < esden> javito: no it does not have anything to do with essen 
21:22 < javito> esden: just kidding
21:22 < javito> =P
21:22 < esden> hrm
21:22 < javito> got two rok cds here
21:23 < Mike1> javito: i don't have time either, but i guess i tend to be a bit productive when have a little spare time
21:23 < javito> well.. sometimes productive also means university, trainning courses, and of course girlfriend
21:23 < javito> know what im saying..
21:23 < esden> hmm ... the second of truth
21:24 < esden> javito: productivity != reproduction ;-)
21:24 < Mike1> javito: yeah, but i mean productive in a ROCK development sence :)
21:25 < javito> productivity != reproduction = fun
21:26 < Mike1> :)
21:26 < esden> :) yes that is true
21:26 < Mike1> javito: reproduction, fun, bier ... i dunno, esden is more apropiate to talk about that :)
21:27 < esden> me ? 
21:27 * -> esden does not know anything about fun ... besides fun killing bugs ;-)
21:27 * -> esden runs around with a big clubbet and hunts bugs
21:28 < javito> my bierkrug is fun
21:28 < javito> full mit bier
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21:29 * -> esden has no beer ... *sigh*
21:29 * -> esden has to buy some tomorrow
21:30 * owl has to buy some wodka tomorrow. to initialize destroying the fscking brain
21:31 * Mike1 needs some jolt ..
21:31 < esden> hmm ... it really seems that my fix works ... 
21:32 < javito> and whattabout jagermeister?
21:32 < owl> javito: don't like it...
21:32 < javito> like the die toten hosen song
21:33 < javito> i do
21:33 < javito> nice mixed up with coke
21:35 < owl> javito: hm... pure wodka or metaxa is best imho... especially juice & metaxa... 40 % of alk... yipeeh
21:39 < javito> metaxa\ never tried it
21:39 < javito> its german drink?
21:39 < javito> gotta go .. universtadt..
21:39 < owl> javito: hm. dunno. i don't care about it... and: i dislike it... but you can temp. kill your brain it... and that's why i like it
21:39 < javito> lol
21:40 < javito> nice explanation
21:40 < owl> not lol...
21:40 < javito> ok
21:40 < javito> gn8!
21:40 < owl> gn8 javito
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21:40 < esden> hmm ... I am really interested if mplayer is so good ... 
21:40 < owl> so good like...?
21:41 < esden> playing not burned vcd images ... it is a combo of a .bin und a .cue file ...
21:42 < owl> hmmm.
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22:40 < Mike1> hi capy
22:40 < owl> hi capchaos
22:47 < capchaos> hey mikey, hey owly
22:47 < Mike1> capy how is Andi?
22:48 < owl> -y
22:48 < capchaos> Mike1, I don't know.. she left me
22:48 < Mike1> s/owly/owlita
22:48 < Mike1> capchaos: 0_o
22:48 < owl> s/owlita/owl
22:48 < capchaos> :(
22:48 < Mike1> capchaos: oh man i'm really sorry to hear that
22:49 < capchaos> Mike1, that's destiny :/
22:49 < owl> destiny? - nope... just sh**
22:49 < capchaos> yep
22:49 * capchaos wasn't enough
22:49 < Mike1> capchaos: ah well, just go on with your life, or as good friend of mine would say Keep Hacking :)
22:50 < capchaos> ;> I know whom you mean
22:50 < Mike1> capchaos: don't say that
22:50 < Mike1> capchaos: :)
22:50 < capchaos> But it's the truth
22:50 < capchaos> Mike1, how are you btw?
22:51 < Mike1> i am good thx :)
22:51 < Mike1> capchaos: updating the 1.7 repos.
22:51 < capchaos> How's your studies going?
22:51 < capchaos> So you're developing in 1.7 now? kool
22:53 < Mike1> capchaos: my studies are doing great thanks, and yes i am developing for 1.7 now
22:53 * capchaos proud of Mike1 *g*
22:53 < Mike1> lol
22:54 < Mike1> capchaos: you can blame rxr for me joining 1.7
22:54 < capchaos> Oh :)
22:55 < esden> Mike1: I am very glad to have you in 1.7 ... 
22:55 < Mike1> esden: hey thanks :)
22:55 * Mike1 suddenly feels welcome ... 
22:56 < rxr> yeah - welcome Mike1 ;-)!
22:56 < capchaos> hi esden, hi rene!
22:57 < Mike1> rxr thanks :)
23:03 < esden> hi capchaos 
23:03 < esden> /usr/local/data/1.7/new/test/rock-src-1.7.new/build/default-1.7-snapshot-x86-dietlibc-expert/tools.cross/crosscc/../lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnulibc1/3.2.2/../../../../i386-pc-linux-gnulibc1/bin/ld: cannot find -lc
23:03 < esden> argh !!!!
23:04 < netrunner_> hm ... I reacht stage 5 after 5 days :) only 1-mine and 1-lilo failed.
23:05 < esden> the error I have is in 1-binutils
23:22 < netrunner_> hm ... is stage 4 empty? there are no logs in build/bla/var/adm/logs for that stage ?
23:23 < netrunner_> (you know where I mean ;)
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23:30 < rxr> netrunner_: maybe there is no package for stage 4 ?
23:31 < Mike1> rxr: did ever get the chance to test 'oroborus' ?
23:32 < rxr> Mike1: hm?
23:32 < Mike1> rxr: http://www.oroborus.org/
23:33 < Mike1> i will test it on my 1.7 private tree, if it works as i spect i might add it to my repos
23:33 < netrunner_> rxr: oh, maybe, couldn't yet find a file with a list of packages to build that I could modify
23:36 < rxr> you need to modiy the packages .desc file - other lists lying in config/* are generated and overwritten with cache data ...
23:36 < rxr> Mike1: hm - feel tree to add it. I'll stay with KDE for medium to big machines and waimea or windowmaker for low-end machnies ...
23:37 < Mike1> rxr yeah i know, but its good to have second opinions :)
23:37 < rxr> http://www.waimea.org/
23:38 < rxr> we already have many options - but feel free to add "yet another" ;-)
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23:38 < toberkel> hi
23:38 < netrunner_> rxr: I thought of a file that describes the packagelist for a certain target.
23:39 < rxr> they are generated - take a look into the bootdisk or desktop target's config.in files ...
23:39 < rxr> the generic targets build all standard packages ...
23:39 < rxr> (those not disabled in the package's .desc file)
23:41 < tsa> re.
23:42 < tsa> rxr: ..
23:42 < tsa> [D] 2492281338 psutils-p17.tar.bz2 ftp://drocklinux.dyndns.org/software/psutils/
23:43 < tsa> broken..du you have another location?
23:43 < tsa> s,u,o,
23:43 < Mike1> 0_o
23:43 < SMP> *bwhahaha*
23:43 < SMP> tsa did it!
23:43 < Mike1> hi SMP
23:43 < tsa> hm?
23:43 < SMP> tsa said 'JEHOVA'
23:43 < owl> moin SMP
23:43 < SMP> (bugzilla)
23:43 < tsa> hehe
23:44 < rxr> tsa: oops. Must forget to restore the "software" area after the RAID5 crash ...
23:44 < rxr> will do so soon
23:44 < tsa> ack
23:44 < rxr> hi SMP
23:44 < rxr> tsa: SMP: Hm?!?
23:45 < rxr> Anyway hi!
23:46 < dreamind> *yaaawn*
23:46 < dreamind> Hi folks :)
23:46 < SMP> does nobody remember that Clifford already had a official bugzilla, but removed it because it was used like exactly zero times?
23:47 < tsa> hm..didn't know there was one..
23:47 < rxr> SMP: yes I know that - tsa opened a new bugzilla ?
23:47 < tsa> no, i didn't - i just suggested one.
23:48 < tsa> in this case, clifford will currently probably be eating his keyboard.. ;)
23:48 < tsa> *aslk*
23:48 < tsa> cron sux.
23:49 < Mike1> hi dreamind
23:49 * tsa wants "cron -fg"
23:49 < dreamind> Hi Mike1
23:54 < rxr> ah - now I see where tsa suggested a bugzilla ...
23:55 < SMP> rxr: I have an unused hackers@lists.rocklinux.de mailinglist, if that would help *cough cough*
23:55 < SMP> ;->
23:56 < rxr> *g*
23:57 < tsa> hehe
23:57 < tsa> anyone already talked to huebi this {year,month,..} ?
23:58 < dreamind> yup
23:58 < dreamind> I saw him recently here
23:58 < tsa> here?
23:59 < Mike1> tsa is poke to him 2 says ago
23:59 < Mike1> spoke even*
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