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--- Log opened Thu Mar 13 00:00:03 2003 --- Day changed Thu Mar 13 2003 00:00 < tsa> i see. 00:00 < Mike1> tsa he is supposed to have conection already, but thats it 00:00 < tsa> just wondering why he didn't answer all the mails on the ML regarding 1.6 00:00 < Mike1> SMP: lets see what Clifford has to say about it, Rene what do you think about adding a different list for patches 00:01 < fake> hi ho 00:01 < Mike1> tsa no time? no conection to fetch the mail? 00:01 < Mike1> hi fake! 00:01 < fake> tsa: you can't answer email without a connection to the internet... 00:01 < tsa> I can! 00:01 < fake> tsa: i know, that's hard to understand, but it's true - i can also not imagine being totally disconnected... 00:01 < tsa> uucp rox. 00:02 < fake> well, internet-cafe's as a last resort 00:02 < tsa> ODMR for sendmail, anyone? 00:02 < tsa> btw... 00:02 * fake away agauin... 00:02 < fake> -u 00:02 < tsa> SMP: you seem to be quite familar with qmail - does it support smtp-auth? 00:03 < SMP> only with a patch. 00:03 < SMP> do you need client or server? 00:03 * tsa needs an MTA to behave like a smtp-auth client.. 00:03 < SMP> ahh 00:03 < tsa> currently doing this with sendmail 00:06 < SMP> there's something: https://www.cyberphoria.org/?display=projects_qmail_smtp_auth_send_patch 00:06 < tsa> thx 00:06 * tsa browsing.. 00:06 < SMP> personally I use relaying based on TLS certs. 00:06 < dreamind> hm, anybody here familiar with kerberos? 00:07 < dreamind> or at least can point me to some good docs for kerberos + ldap 00:07 < dreamind> currently I'm using ldap for pam and nss 00:07 < dreamind> (and imap and ....) 00:07 < SMP> dreamind: https://www.bayour.com/LDAPv3-HOWTO.html 00:08 < SMP> tsa: you might be better off with nullmailer or so 00:09 < dreamind> SMP: thanks a lot ;) 00:09 < SMP> anyone need some more URLs? ;-O 00:10 < dreamind> hm I wonder if there is some way to share bookmarks with mozilla... 00:10 < dreamind> netscape 4.7 had that feature with ldap, and I had it running about a year ago 00:10 < SMP> dreamind: there isn't. short of copying the file around 00:11 < dreamind> ugh, that doesn't sound nice :( 00:11 < dreamind> hm, I could use some cvs way... 00:11 < SMP> technically, roaming profiles really sucked in Netscape 4 00:11 < dreamind> checkin and checkout the bookmarks.html file ;) 00:11 < dreamind> SMP: yes I know, but they at least worked ;) 00:11 < dreamind> *grin* 00:12 < SMP> dreamind: but look at some projects on https://www.mozdev.org/projects.html ... 00:12 < dreamind> I'll do :) 00:12 < dreamind> btw, another question, is Oroborus nowadays included with Rocklinux? 00:13 < Mike1> dreamind: scrollback, rxr and i had short conversation about it a bit ago 00:13 < tsa> oro-what? 00:13 < rxr> tsa: yet another window manager ... 00:13 < Mike1> tsa: https://www.oroborus.org/ 00:14 < tsa> hm... 00:15 < tsa> screenshots look like gnome2 w/ aqua theme. 00:15 < tsa> which part of the screenshots actually show the wm?# 00:15 < dreamind> ah ok, I have no highlight here for oroborus, damn 00:16 < dreamind> just added that ;) 00:17 < dreamind> its not just "YAWM"! 00:17 < rxr> tsa: the border around the windows are the WM ;-) 00:17 < dreamind> the borders? well and screenshots just don't cover the ui. 00:17 < dreamind> they only cover the look, but not the feel. 00:18 < tsa> hm...the look sux. does the feel suck, too? ;) 00:18 < dreamind> tsa: you don't have to use it. 00:18 < dreamind> if you don't like it, then just use something different. 00:19 < tsa> lookd like sawfish 00:19 < rxr> blackbox, windowmaker or waimea are also NYAWM ... ;-) 00:19 < rxr> but Mike1 wanted to check it out ;-) 00:20 < Mike1> rxr we will see 00:20 < Mike1> :) 00:20 < Mike1> what would we use the oficial RLML for if there was a seperate patch list? 00:20 < dreamind> well and for whats so special with Oroborus, read the website. 00:20 < Mike1> even many of the dicussions beggin after submiting a patch 00:20 < Mike1> rxr my personal opinion is to keep it as is, even the LKML list works like that, and they _DO_ have a big traffic 00:20 < SMP> Mike1: but LKML is not for users 00:21 < Mike1> SMP: well yeah, you got a point, :) 00:21 < dreamind> nite 00:21 < Mike1> n8 dreamind 00:21 < Mike1> maybe we should have rock-developer list 00:21 < Mike1> or simple use SMP's hackers list 00:21 -!- dreamind [dreamind@skeeter.dreamind.de] has quit ("Client exiting") 00:22 < rxr> discussion about changed are different from raw patch content 00:23 < tsa> hm.. 00:23 < tsa> can we have options to disable gnome/kde ? 00:24 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dialin-145-254-159-222.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Wer zu viel Macht hat macht zu viel...") 00:24 < Mike1> tsa: that would be great ! 00:25 < tsa> i don't use any of them, and that could save at least a day of the build time.. 00:26 < rxr> tsa simply do so in your private config 00:26 < rxr> it is that easy to archive - we do not need a config for everything ... 00:26 < tsa> rm -rf package/g* package/k* ;-) 00:27 < rxr> if you like even this ... 00:27 < rxr> O gnome14 00:27 < rxr> O gnome2 00:27 < rxr> O kde31 00:27 < rxr> in your config would be sufficient ... 00:28 < tsa> O lines do match on directories as well? 00:28 < tsa> nice. 00:28 < tsa> thx. 00:29 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Der Sinn des Lebens ist die Suche nach eben jenem.") 00:29 < rxr> and O rene 00:29 < rxr> or so to disable the add-ons lying in the rene repository .... 00:31 < rxr> no they match the line in produced by the Create-PkgList 00:31 < rxr> the repository name is in that line 00:32 < tsa> ah..ok 00:32 < rxr> oh 00:32 < rxr> it is'nt any more ... 00:32 < tsa> .oO( we can disable rene with just one line? ;-)) 00:32 * tsa giggles 00:32 < rxr> it is ... 00:34 * rxr blind ... 00:41 < owl> <-- going to die. gn8 00:46 < tsa> have fun. 00:50 < Mike1> ok last patches email sent (at least for today) 00:54 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:55 < Mike1> n8 all 00:55 < SMP> yeah. off, too 00:55 < rxr> cu SMP 00:58 < tsa> cu SMP 01:02 < esden> hmm ... Q is funny but still a bad guy ... in some way at least ;-) 01:03 * rxr off eating and then relaxing watching enterprise ... ;-) 02:14 -!- demian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has joined #rocklinux 02:14 < demian> hi 02:15 < demian> does someone knows the results of that real madrid match ? hehe 02:17 < esden> hi demian 02:17 < esden> ahh earl grey ... wonderfull tea 02:31 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9588C62.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:43 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p5081740D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 02:59 -!- rxr [~rxr@port-212-202-173-211.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit ("leaving") 03:48 -!- demian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has left #rocklinux () 03:58 -!- tibit [~tibit@p508AAD9A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:06 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Der Sinn des Lebens ist die Suche nach eben jenem.") 04:07 -!- netrunner_ [~netrunner@p5080285D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04:15 -!- tibit_ [~tibit@p508AADF2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:00 -!- netrunner_ [~netrunner@p50802836.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 08:25 -!- rolla_ [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:25 -!- rolla [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:40 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc3-stoc3-4-cust203.midd.cable.ntl.com] has left #rocklinux () 10:48 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p5081740D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:38 -!- loideal [~monitoreo@mail.loideal.com] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:24 -!- Netsplit over, joins: blindcoder, kasc 12:30 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p5081740D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 12:33 -!- loideal [~monitoreo@mail.loideal.com] has joined #rocklinux 12:39 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:39 -!- rolla_ is now known as rolla 15:05 -!- Kamui-chan [AngelusDel@pD9523915.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:12 -!- Kamui-chan [AngelusDel@pD9523915.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit () 15:32 < owl> hi 15:35 < rolla> re owl 15:35 < owl> hi rolla 16:00 -!- ringo30 [ringo78@xs2.xs4all.nl] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 16:10 < esden> hmm ... 16:10 < esden> good morning all 16:10 * -> esden away ... *sigh* 16:14 < blindcoder> esden: maybe you should get a "normal" sleep-wake-rhythm 16:14 < blindcoder> :) 16:15 -!- Kamui-chan [[XA]00055@pD9523915.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:16 -!- Kamui-chan [[XA]00055@pD9523915.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Client Quit) 16:18 * blindcoder putting his first draft of patchdonkey aside and waiting for more responses on the ML 16:21 < owl> hi blindcoder 16:21 -!- boonhn [pwnz-21145@203.103.26.24.cfl.rr.com] has joined #rocklinux 16:21 -!- boonhn [pwnz-21145@203.103.26.24.cfl.rr.com] has left #rocklinux () 16:41 -!- juanca [~juancasc@mail.loideal.com] has joined #rocklinux 16:46 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-071-053.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:46 < daja77> hi all 16:47 -!- juanca [~juancasc@mail.loideal.com] has left #rocklinux () 16:48 < owl> hi daja77 16:48 < daja77> hi owl, how are you? 16:48 < owl> daja77: alive, i fear. thx 16:49 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 16:57 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p508013B8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:58 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Excess Flood) 16:59 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:00 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Excess Flood) 17:01 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:02 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Excess Flood) 17:02 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:04 < owl> hmmmmmmm... 17:04 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Excess Flood) 17:04 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:04 < owl> wtf is this guy doing? 17:09 < Mike1> ehh Flooding? 17:09 < daja77> hi Mike1 17:09 < Mike1> moin all 17:09 < owl> Mike1: *g* hi 17:09 < Mike1> hi daja77 17:09 < Mike1> hi owly 17:18 -!- juanca [~juancasc@mail.loideal.com] has joined #rocklinux 17:18 < daja77> hi juanca 17:19 < owl> hi juanca 17:20 < juanca> hi owl 17:20 < juanca> where are you? 17:21 < juanca> hi daja 17:21 < daja77> in the air *g* 17:23 < esden> re hi all 17:23 < daja77> hi esden 17:24 < owl> hi esden 17:26 < esden> hi owl 17:27 < esden> hmm ... blindcoder is away >_< 17:37 -!- Nor [~ircap75@mail.loideal.com] has joined #rocklinux 17:37 < Nor> Hi!! 17:37 < esden> hi Nor 17:37 -!- Nor [~ircap75@mail.loideal.com] has quit (Client Quit) 17:42 -!- Nor [~ircap75@mail.loideal.com] has joined #rockLinux 17:44 < snyke> ESDEN 17:46 -!- Nor [~ircap75@mail.loideal.com] has quit ("...") 17:46 * -> esden be back 17:51 < kasc> moin 17:51 < daja77> moin kasc 17:54 -!- rubenh [~ircap7@mail.loideal.com] has joined #rocklinux 17:55 -!- loideal [~monitoreo@mail.loideal.com] has quit () 18:05 -!- Nor [~ircap75@mail.loideal.com] has joined #rocklinux 18:05 -!- Nor is now known as Nor_Cheking_Serv 18:05 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958DBDE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:06 < tcr> moin all 18:07 < owl> hi tcr 18:09 -!- IR9540 [~ircap75@mail.loideal.com] has joined #rocklinux 18:10 -!- IR9540 is now known as loidal] 18:10 -!- loidal] is now known as loIdeal 18:12 -!- Nor_Cheking_Serv is now known as Nor 18:17 < rubenh> [nor] 18:17 < rubenh> cuak 18:17 -!- juanca [~juancasc@mail.loideal.com] has quit () 18:18 -!- juanca [~juancasc@mail.loideal.com] has joined #rocklinux 18:20 -!- rubenh [~ircap7@mail.loideal.com] has quit (" IRcap 7.0 https://www.ircap.net !!") 18:21 -!- rubenh [~ircap7@mail.loideal.com] has joined #rocklinux 18:23 -!- Nor [~ircap75@mail.loideal.com] has quit ("...") 18:24 -!- Nor [~ircap75@mail.loideal.com] has joined #rocklinux 18:33 -!- Nor [~ircap75@mail.loideal.com] has quit ("• IRcap [7.5] • https://www.ircap.net •") 18:46 -!- rubenh [~ircap7@mail.loideal.com] has quit (" IRcap 7.0 https://www.ircap.net !!") 18:52 -!- loIdeal [~ircap75@mail.loideal.com] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:24 -!- demian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has joined #rocklinux 19:24 < demian> hi 19:29 < owl> re 19:39 < Mike1> hi debian 19:40 < Mike1> ping ruddur 19:40 < Mike1> ping ruddur 19:40 < Mike1> ping ruddur 19:40 < Mike1> ping ruddur 19:43 < ruddur> hi Mike1 19:43 < esden> re hi all 19:43 < ruddur> hi esden 19:44 < owl> re esden 19:44 < Mike1> ruddur: why did you unsubscribe to the rock mailing lists? 19:44 < Mike1> anything wrong my friend? 19:44 < ruddur> hi own 19:44 < ruddur> no most message 19:44 < Mike1> :(( 19:44 < ruddur> if i have a problem i post here 19:45 < ruddur> it's most fast 19:45 < Mike1> oks 19:45 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958F1A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:46 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 19:46 < esden> ahh blindcoder ... 19:46 < owl> hi blindcoder 19:46 < esden> hi blindcoder 19:46 < esden> blindcoder: do you really want to write the patch system ... 19:46 < blindcoder> I'm almost done with V0.1 19:46 < Mike1> blindcoder: COOL COOL, let me see!! 19:46 < esden> ohh no ... you are too fast you know that ... (no offence her) 19:46 < esden> e 19:47 < blindcoder> Mike1: hold your horses. there's no client yet, only the server 19:47 < blindcoder> I think I'll have a usable demo at the Weekend 19:47 < blindcoder> esden: maybe, because maybe it's not wanted 19:48 < blindcoder> but at least I have something to do during work 19:48 < ruddur> Mike1 : no problem i'm in rocklinux and i stay to the end 19:48 < esden> blindcoder: ok ... have fun then ;-) 19:48 < blindcoder> esden: thanks :) 19:48 < ruddur> hi blindcoder 19:48 < tcr> first let's wait for an answer of clifford to by mail ;) 19:49 < blindcoder> hi ruddur 19:49 < esden> but you know if it will be taken you will need to write it compleatly new ... with clean design... 19:49 < blindcoder> tcr: indeed :) 19:49 < blindcoder> esden: what do you mean by 'clean' design. beautiful code? 19:50 -!- demian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has left #rocklinux () 19:50 < blindcoder> feature creaping? 19:50 < esden> blindcoder: no forget what I said before and I hope that it will be taken 19:51 < esden> I do not want to make your work bad ... excuse me 19:51 < blindcoder> no please tell me 19:51 < blindcoder> so I can save me a complete rewrite 19:51 < tcr> blindcoder: let clifford do the first step. (period) 19:52 < blindcoder> esden: if you want: apollo:/home/blindcoder/public_html/rock 19:52 < tcr> he's sometimes very fussy about such things 19:52 < blindcoder> tcr: sure, I startet at work today, and your(?) mail came when I was going home 19:52 < esden> I would like to take a look ... yes ... but I think that you will make it in the right way ... 19:52 < esden> tcr: ACK *sigh* 19:53 < blindcoder> esden: "red net em den heissen brei rum" 19:55 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux 19:55 < armijn> re 19:56 < owl> hi armijn 19:56 < armijn> hi owl 19:57 * armijn listening to Soilwork 19:58 * tcr is listening to Eisregen - Meine Tote Russische Freundin 19:59 < tcr> moin arm 19:59 < blindcoder> brb 19:59 * owl np: subway to sally - narben 20:00 < armijn> heh 20:00 < blindcoder> re 20:03 < esden> hi armijn 20:03 < armijn> hi esden 20:03 < armijn> sigh, been battling OpenBSD today... 20:06 < armijn> wasn't that funny... 20:06 < armijn> and lots of ports outdated...argh 20:07 < daja77> re 20:10 < daja77> armijn: have you won the war against OpenBSD? 20:11 < armijn> nah 20:11 < armijn> gotta update lots of ports... 20:11 < armijn> better get down to do that..sigh 20:11 * armijn off 20:11 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has left #rocklinux () 20:15 < esden> ok ... very interesting 20:27 -!- ringo30 [ringo78@xs1.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 20:35 -!- kasc_ [~kasc@p5090AD8C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:36 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090B0D4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:03 -!- javito [~javito@ip33-167.furb.br] has joined #rocklinux 21:06 < ruddur> hi javito 21:06 < javito> hi everybody 21:06 < javito> wassup 21:08 < daja77> hi ruddur 21:09 < ruddur> hi daja77 21:09 < daja77> bonsoir mon ami ;) 21:10 < ruddur> bonsoir monsieur daja77 21:11 < ruddur> vous allez bien ? 21:11 < Mike1> hola javito 21:12 < daja77> ruddur: oui, merci 21:12 < ruddur> good french 21:13 < daja77> are you sure? I didn't write any serious stuff 21:13 < Mike1> *LOL* 21:14 < javito> hola loco Mike1 como andas.. 21:14 < ruddur> for me is not a problem to speak to you in french but i don't know if it is for the others users 21:14 < daja77> Mike1: in french ;) 21:14 < Mike1> javito: che bien y vos? 21:14 < javito> bien por suerte 21:14 < javito> =) 21:14 < tcr> ruddur: pas vraiment... je dois apprendre beaucoup pour l'école etc 21:14 < Mike1> daja77: nice :) 21:15 < ruddur> only french talkers here 21:15 < ruddur> ;) 21:15 < daja77> nope 21:15 < javito> oui 21:15 < Mike1> javito: ruddur are you sure you wanna see whats the dominating language here? 21:15 < Mike1> *g 21:15 < javito> *bg* 21:15 < ruddur> german no ;) 21:15 < daja77> Mike1: sorry, but learning spanish at school, would have been too much 21:16 < Mike1> ruddur: hehe 21:16 < Mike1> daja77: actually we are dominted by german lang here. 21:16 < tcr> I had to choose between spanish and french, decided for french, though, looking at it now, I'd have choosen spanish, I think. 21:16 < Mike1> daja77: voce falas portugues? 21:16 < Mike1> tcr: hehe :) 21:17 < javito> tcr: go for it toby =) 21:17 < ruddur> possiamo parlare italiano 21:17 < daja77> Mike1: nope, try russian, english, french or arab ;) 21:17 < ruddur> linux it's universal 21:17 < javito> io tambene parlo o italiano! 21:17 < Mike1> i speak Linux :) 21:18 < daja77> in every language ;) 21:18 < javito> ja! 21:18 < ruddur> just 21:18 < Mike1> export LANG=li_RK 21:18 < Mike1> or something like that :) 21:19 < daja77> ? 21:19 < Mike1> nevermind 21:19 < Mike1> huebi: alive? 21:21 < ruddur> anybody use satellite receptor : dreambox of dream-multimedia.tv is german 21:21 < ruddur> with linux inside 21:21 < tcr> let's speak binary: 01111001 01101111 01110101 01100001 01110010 01100101 01100100 01110101 01101101 01100010 21:21 < daja77> tcr: what coding did you use? 21:23 < tcr> ascii number into little endian format 21:24 < daja77> hehe, pc user :P 21:26 < tcr> youaredumb ;) 21:27 < daja77> maybe, but on the net it is bigendian ;) 21:28 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9E0A8D0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:29 < tcr> man 3 byteorder :P 21:29 -!- hackbard is now known as defbla 21:29 < defbla> oh 21:30 < tcr> moin defblah 21:30 < defbla> hi rockers :) 21:30 < defbla> ohne h bitte ;) 21:30 < tcr> blah 21:30 < tcr> :P 21:33 < daja77> tcr: sorry, I fear I got a bot owlish this evening, plz don't mind ;) 21:33 < daja77> a bit, damn 21:34 < defbla> %) 21:34 < tcr> no mind and owl.. hmm that fits roughly 21:34 < defbla> call 0100 ENDIANPOLICE 21:34 < daja77> tcr: sure 21:35 < daja77> defbla: 0800 plz 21:36 < defbla> or 8000 ? %) 21:36 < daja77> don't think so 21:36 < tcr> @(bb|!(bb)) 21:37 < daja77> ? 21:37 < tcr> geekied famour quote of shakespeare hamlet ;) 21:37 < daja77> got it 21:37 < tcr> expressed in a bash extended extglob 21:38 < daja77> I'm a bit slow today 21:39 < tcr> for all being amazed: bb == 2b == to be. and: bb or not bb. conclusion: to be or not to be 21:40 < daja77> 2 beer or not 2 beer 21:41 < tcr> hard to answer 21:41 < daja77> I prefer the latter ;) 21:41 < tcr> amazing, me too 21:42 < daja77> cool, two germans on this channel who don't like beer 21:42 < tcr> it's like... 21:43 < tcr> no idea ;) 21:43 < daja77> two russians who don't like vodka 21:44 < tcr> there's even an official vodka memorial day or something like that 21:44 < tcr> guess what russian do on that day ;) 21:44 < daja77> refreshing memories, perhaps 21:45 < tcr> would be reasonable 21:46 < daja77> refreshing memories of parties with friends and vodka, by having a party with friends and vodka 21:46 < esden> hehe ... Q rulez 21:47 < tcr> it does? 21:47 -!- javito [~javito@ip33-167.furb.br] has quit ("Client Exiting") 21:48 < daja77> esden: did he changed the gravity constant again ;) 21:48 < tcr> oh, you're talking about Q, the godlike spinner in star trek 21:48 < esden> hmm ... no Q is stupid ... I think that is its biggest problem ... it is having a lot of power but is not able to understand us ... humans 21:48 < tcr> you have been watching to star trek, esden? where? 21:49 < esden> yes the Q ... that _THING_ in star trek 21:49 < daja77> he might be stupid but he rulez somehow? 21:49 * -> esden is downloading all episodes from a server here ;-) 21:49 < tcr> he's just bored, not a crime, just a sign of imperfection what he actually claims not to have, but apparantly has 21:49 < esden> yes that is right 21:50 < esden> all episodes with it/him are very funny 21:50 < tcr> it's a very idiosyncratic quirk of him (muhaha what's an expression ;)) 21:50 < daja77> you cannot blame him for not understanding us, I didn't either ;) 21:50 * -> esden clicking on dict.leo.org 21:50 < defbla> esden! 21:50 < tcr> he also appeared in two or three episodes of voyager 21:50 < defbla> dict, nor diet? :) 21:51 < defbla> s/nor/not/ 21:51 < daja77> Q is always funny to watch 21:51 < defbla> how is the dietlibc port going? 21:51 < esden> hmm ... I am having currently some problems with changes that were made by clifford 21:52 < esden> I am still waiting for an answer from him 21:52 < esden> because I am not able to debug it till now ... because my knowledge about the interna of 1.7 have still some shortcomming 21:52 < esden> s 21:53 < defbla> ic, is he changing the wrappers? 21:53 -!- rxr [~rxr@port-212-202-173-211.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:53 < defbla> hi rene :) 21:53 < tcr> moin rxr 21:53 < esden> tcr: I am looking forward to see Q 21:53 < esden> moin rxr 21:54 < tcr> esden: are you leeching TNG episodes? 21:55 < rxr> hi all 21:55 < daja77> hi rxr 21:56 < esden> tcr: yes ... with 200kb/s ... that is fun ;-) 21:56 < Mike1> hey Ren 21:56 < esden> I could double it if I would download from two hosts ... 21:56 < rxr> hi Mike1 21:58 < tcr> esden: well, the most annyoing thing on TNG is wesley crasher and counselor troy... those damn fucking über characters 21:58 < daja77> tcr: full ack 21:58 * rxr votes for counselor troy as most anoying person in TNG, too !!! 21:58 < esden> yes they suck ... that is right 21:59 < daja77> wesley is more annoying indeed 21:59 < tcr> but well, at least TNG has some decent actors. DSP is a amusing pile of crappy amateurs 22:00 < daja77> I would add Riker to that list 22:00 < tcr> i always have to fall in laugh when I see how tautly Sisco stands. no moving, nothing. muhaha that's so funny 22:00 < esden> what is the name of the newest startrek series ? 22:00 < tcr> no Riker is cool 22:00 < tcr> imo 22:00 < esden> that one that plays in the beginning of the travels ? 22:01 < esden> tcr: ack 22:01 < esden> he is ok 22:01 < tcr> well but the collest thing is of course DATA! damn he rulez hairy gorilla ball, all time, ever! 22:01 -!- defbla [~hackbard@pD9E0A8D0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("bye") 22:01 < daja77> ds9 is too religious for being Star Trek 22:02 < tcr> i'd rather add to the annoying list dr. polasky 22:02 < esden> yes data is the best character in Star Trek 22:02 < daja77> tcr: ack again 22:02 < tcr> and Lion of course! 22:02 < daja77> ? 22:02 < tcr> (or how she's spelled) 22:02 < tcr> the person being in 10 vorne alltime 22:03 < daja77> Guinan, perhaps 22:03 < rxr> hm 22:03 < tcr> also one of those über sensitive fuckers 22:03 < tcr> yea 22:03 < netrunner_> esden: the title seems to be just 'enterprise' 22:03 < daja77> she was ok 22:03 < esden> hmm ... that can be right 22:03 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22:03 < tcr> daja77: yeah, 'cause there aren't a lot episode where she plays a role ;) 22:03 < netrunner_> esden: I have the first 13 here, if you'd like :) 22:04 < esden> here is a subdirectory with that name ... 22:04 < esden> I have to check it out when the 10th episode of TNG is here 22:04 < netrunner_> (but very good quality!) 22:04 < esden> I love this student network ! 22:04 < netrunner_> esden: where do you find this stuff? 22:05 < daja77> tcr: she was not über, she was from another dimension and knew everthing, but that doesn't matter 22:05 < esden> I bet that what is here is also very good quality 22:05 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 22:05 < Mike1> re 22:05 < esden> I know my "komilitonen" 22:05 < netrunner_> esden: gimme names plz :) 22:05 < esden> re Mike1 22:06 < tcr> daja77: XD what a difference 22:06 < esden> netrunner_: Enterprise s1e01 - Broken Bow p1 -en-.avi 22:06 < esden> is it that ? 22:07 < netrunner_> esden: ack. 22:07 < daja77> tcr: the only bad thing was that you couldn't get real alcohol at the bar 22:11 < tcr> geordi is also a cool character 22:11 < tcr> technically brilliant as he is.. 22:11 < daja77> and picard of course 22:11 * netrunner_ hates that country style soundtrack 22:12 * SMP *loves* the Enterprise soundtrack ;p 22:12 < netrunner_> smp: have you ever listened to the _new_? 22:12 < SMP> netrunner_: is there an other series by that name? 22:13 < Mike1> hi SMP 22:13 < tcr> netrunner_: SMP means old ass star trek with cpt kirk ;) 22:13 < SMP> tcr: no. 22:14 < daja77> is it really country like? sounds ugly to me 22:14 < SMP> TOS is pure crap 22:14 < tcr> what serie is then called enterprise 22:14 < netrunner_> daja: i do not think it's really country, but it sounds weird. 22:14 < daja77> *the old sh..* 22:15 < SMP> daja77: search for 'Where my heart will take me' by Russell Watson 22:15 < netrunner_> and watching the first few parts I thought it looked like a home-made movie. 22:15 < SMP> tcr: https://www.startrek.com/library/episodes_ent.asp 22:16 < daja77> it plays before cpt kirk, so I guess their equipment was older ;) 22:17 < daja77> where my heart will take me, hmm reminds me of celine dion 22:17 < tcr> Your eyes are full of hate, Forty-one. That's good. Hate keeps a man alive. 22:17 < tcr> It gives him strength. 22:17 < SMP> actually the refrain is slightly different in the soundtrack 22:18 < tcr> great ben hur quote 22:18 < daja77> hehe, https://www.startreksoundtracks.com/sts-performer-watson.html 22:20 < daja77> I guess the lyrics were written by homeland security department 22:21 < daja77> now they destroyed roddenberry's vision of Star Trek completely 22:21 < tcr> star trek music with vocals? 22:22 < tcr> that sounds... quite incostitent 22:22 < daja77> and such horrible lyrics 22:22 < SMP> nah, that song rules 22:22 < SMP> in its own way 22:23 < tcr> it's just not appropriate to star trek. its quality doesnt matter on any account 22:23 < daja77> might be, but roddenberry wanted that religion only plays a minor role 22:24 < daja77> by singing of faith this is just awful 22:24 < SMP> daja77: that song is exactly not religious 22:25 < daja77> Cause I?ve got faith of the heart. 22:25 < daja77> I?m going where my heart will take me. 22:25 < daja77> I?ve got faith to believe. I can do anything. 22:25 < daja77> what do you think it is? 22:25 < SMP> yeah. that's faith in oneself. nothing else. no higher force. 22:25 < tcr> faith does not necessarily means anything related to religion though 22:26 < daja77> you might be right, but ds9 already proofed wrong in that way 22:26 < tcr> and it's common to talk also about faith when talkin about pioneers 22:27 < daja77> in times of american nationalism I do not trust such things 22:29 < SMP> yes, together with the intro movie there's quite a bit of patriotism in it 22:30 < daja77> I hope it is only a bit 22:30 < tcr> the captain just looks like a typical patriotic american 22:30 < tcr> thought that before this discussion has arised 22:30 < tcr> had 22:31 < SMP> sigh. 22:31 < tcr> it's so 22:32 < daja77> I'm downloading the song now... 22:32 < daja77> well, Star Trek got worse and worse since roddenberry died 22:32 < tcr> I don't assume this was a reason why he was choosen, I just recognized and stated it 22:34 < daja77> those suckers wanted to prevent the download 22:35 -!- Delicik [~taner@62.29.92.234] has joined #rocklinux 22:37 * daja77 np: faithofheart.mp3 22:38 < daja77> it finished, *this is disgusting* 22:39 < SMP> nah, trash culture. gorgeous 22:39 < daja77> it is not country, but a rod steward imitation 22:40 < daja77> I guess they had no money to pay an orchestra this time *g* 22:43 < tcr> gn8 all 22:43 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958DBDE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 22:44 < daja77> SMP: how is the rest of the series? 22:45 < SMP> well I think it is the best so far 22:46 < SMP> no boring tech gadgets like in TNG 22:46 < SMP> they started doing stupid mistakes lately 22:46 < daja77> like? 22:46 < SMP> like all aliens speaking English and knowing what 'counter clockwise' means 22:47 < SMP> in certain situations. not in every episode 22:48 < daja77> it is made for today's viewers, so they lowered the level 22:49 < daja77> btw, do like the latest Star Trek movie? 22:50 < daja77> s/do like/do you like/g 22:50 < SMP> didn't see it. I don't like ST movies in general 22:50 < daja77> you should keep it this way, cause this movie is the worst 22:51 -!- Delicik [~taner@62.29.92.234] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22:54 < daja77> gn8 you all 22:55 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-071-053.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 23:27 -!- RaD|Tz [~LinuXo@200.77.150.24] has joined #rocklinux 23:28 < RaD|Tz> lets work 23:28 < RaD|Tz> I've downloaded de ISO image of RockLinux 23:28 < RaD|Tz> the installation is the same like other distros? 23:33 -!- RaD|Tz [~LinuXo@200.77.150.24] has quit ("https://memonet.port5.com") 23:37 < rxr> rtfm ... 23:41 < Mike1> hehe :)) 23:44 < ringo30> glad I just downloaded rootlinux ;-) 23:44 < Mike1> :) 23:44 < ringo30> They are so friendly down there ;-) 23:45 < Mike1> ringo30: does it mean aren't? 23:45 < Mike1> we aren't* 23:45 < ringo30> I know thats why I stick here. 23:47 < Mike1> good :) 23:49 < esden> ohh the poor guy he got no help here ... 23:50 < Mike1> esden: don't look at me i was away on different workspace :) 23:50 < esden> I was also away ... 23:51 < Mike1> so its ringo30's fault 23:51 < Mike1> *bveg* 23:51 < esden> yes it is ringo30's fault ... and the guy had no endurance 23:52 < esden> otherwise he would get at least an unfrierdly "rtfm" comment ;-) 23:53 < Mike1> esden: why unfriendly ? its the answer to the 98% of the newbies questions 23:53 < esden> hmm ... but they always feel bad getting such an answer 23:54 < esden> they hope to get everything chewed 23:54 < Mike1> or something "rtfm, then try to do it yourself, if fails come back with specific questions, we will give you yet anothe rmanual to read " >:) 23:54 < esden> hmm that is a better answer, yes 23:54 < Mike1> esden: if we give them the whole solution there will be no challenge or learning involved, so whats the point? 23:56 < esden> hmm ... yes *schrug* 23:56 < esden> -c 23:56 < Mike1> hehe :) 23:57 < Mike1> esden: you really will not forget that word, will you ? 23:58 < esden> *GG* 23:58 < esden> I like that word ... even if it is only the short version of "shrug shoulders" 23:58 < Mike1> lol 23:59 < esden> I left me some artistic freedom to shorten it 23:59 < Mike1> would owl like the word s-hug ? 23:59 < Mike1> s = super 23:59 < Mike1> esden: i have noticed --- Log closed Fri Mar 14 00:00:18 2003