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--- Log opened Sat Mar 15 00:00:08 2003 --- Day changed Sat Mar 15 2003 00:00 < Mike1> daja77: you need to make cluster builds, and on router, uml and dietlibc targets on bughunting 00:00 < Mike1> and help on ... 00:00 < Mike1> damn i hate to type while i speak on the phone 00:00 < esden> Mike1: I can imagine that .... ;-) 00:01 < daja77> cluster build: no, dietlibc target I'm interested anyway 00:01 < esden> ok ... sorry guys ... I will have to leave you ... /me needs to get up early tomorrow 00:01 < esden> daja77: I will probably have more to tell you about the dietlibc target tomorrow 00:01 < Mike1> daja77: finally, there are 2 more things 00:02 < daja77> esden: cu, like to hear from you tomorrow 00:02 < Mike1> you need to get owl to make coffee for esden and me, and to give her a bear hug without been killed 00:02 < Mike1> ok cu esden 00:02 < esden> daja77: I am sure that it is easy for you what mike told you ;-) 00:02 < esden> ok ... cu then 00:02 < daja77> ah these are hard tests, damn 00:02 < esden> n8 00:02 < Mike1> lol 00:02 < Mike1> gutte nach mein freund 00:03 < Mike1> nacht* 00:03 < daja77> don't mind the typos today 00:03 < daja77> btw, I'm restoring the rock dir from the laptop 00:04 < daja77> after the e2fsck run, all the data was lost 00:19 < Mike1> n8 all 00:19 < daja77> n8? 00:20 < Mike1> daja77: i am off 00:20 < Mike1> dinner with gf tonight 00:20 < daja77> ok, then see you tomorrow 00:20 < Mike1> daja77: will be racing this weekend 00:20 < Mike1> so will cu untill monday 00:20 < Mike1> :)) 00:21 < Mike1> daja77: /me mountain bike racer :) 00:21 < daja77> no problem, have fun with the racing 00:21 < Mike1> bye 00:21 < daja77> bye 00:36 < daja77> anybody out there? 00:45 < daja77> gn8 all 00:47 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-072-244.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 01:03 -!- Kamui-chan [[XA]13680@pD9523349.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:11 -!- Kamui-chan [[XA]13680@pD9523349.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit () 03:09 -!- dwnldr [~freubelso@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has quit () 03:46 < owl> *gnaaaaaaaaaaa* not again... (falling asleep on the notebook and using it as pillow) --> now using a real pillow as pillow... gn8 03:58 -!- tibit [~tibit@p508AA187.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:04 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Der Sinn des Lebens ist die Suche nach eben jenem.") 04:07 -!- netrunner_ [~netrunner@p508029EE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04:16 -!- tibit_ [~tibit@p508AAD0A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:58 -!- netrunner_ [~netrunner@p5080295E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 08:33 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E49F64.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:35 < tcr> moin all 09:15 -!- ruddur [~ruddur@rocklinux.ruddur.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:16 < tcr> moin ruddur 09:16 < ruddur> hi tcr 09:16 < tcr> ca va? 09:16 < ruddur> bien merci 09:17 < ruddur> et toi 09:17 < tcr> le week-end, c'est super! 09:18 < ruddur> oui 09:18 < ruddur> il va faire beau temps 09:18 < tcr> at last time again for coding... that's great 09:18 < ruddur> yes 09:18 < ruddur> close in the house 09:19 * tcr is listening to Crystalium - Je Suis Le Christ 09:23 < tcr> hmm seems to be a decent band 09:24 < ruddur> he is god 09:24 < ruddur> hum 09:28 < tcr> oh got to reconnect ,brb 09:28 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E49F64.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 09:32 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E49B40.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:50 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD958FC10.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 09:58 -!- ruddur [~ruddur@rocklinux.ruddur.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 10:00 -!- ruddur [~ruddur@rocklinux.ruddur.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:23 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@p50813816.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:41 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E49B40.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:41 -!- thalerim is now known as tcr 11:47 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: tibit, fronti, ruddur, netrunner_ 11:51 -!- Netsplit over, joins: fronti 11:51 -!- Netsplit over, joins: ruddur, netrunner_, tibit 11:52 -!- tibit_ [~tibit@p508AA187.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:53 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: tibit, netrunner_, ruddur 11:57 -!- Netsplit over, joins: ruddur, netrunner_ 12:01 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: netrunner_, ruddur 12:01 -!- Netsplit over, joins: ruddur, netrunner_ 12:09 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: netrunner_, ruddur 12:11 -!- Netsplit over, joins: ruddur, netrunner_ 12:19 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: netrunner_, ruddur 12:20 -!- Netsplit over, joins: ruddur, netrunner_ 12:40 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813816.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 12:51 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:02 -!- tfing [tfing@shagwell.viktorrydberg.studenthem.gu.se] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13:11 -!- ruddur is now known as rudlanCs 13:25 < kasc_> moin 13:43 < owl> hi 13:50 -!- tfing [tfing@shagwell.viktorrydberg.studenthem.gu.se] has joined #rocklinux 13:50 < owl> hi tfing 13:54 < tfing> yop 14:11 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Ge0rG, rudlanCs, netrunner_ 14:14 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:14 -!- rudlanCs [~ruddur@rocklinux.ruddur.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:14 -!- netrunner_ [~netrunner@p5080295E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:17 -!- Ge0rG_ [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:19 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Ge0rG, rudlanCs, netrunner_ 14:30 -!- rudlanCs [~ruddur@rocklinux.ruddur.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:37 < ringo78> moin 14:39 < owl> hi ringo78 14:57 < esden> hi all 14:59 * -> esden got patches for perl to get it running under dietlibc !!! 14:59 < esden> WEEE 14:59 * -> esden jumps around 15:01 < owl> hi esden 15:03 < esden> hi owl 16:27 -!- Be-El [~be-el@p5082B370.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:27 < Be-El> hi ppl 16:28 < owl> hi Be-El 16:28 -!- veninga [1000@co97886-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has joined #rocklinux 16:32 -!- veninga [1000@co97886-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has quit (Client Quit) 16:36 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-073-061.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:37 < daja77> moin 16:38 < esden> moin daja77 16:38 < kasc_> auch moin 16:38 < daja77> hi esden 16:38 < esden> moin kasc_ 16:38 -!- kasc_ is now known as kasc 16:38 < kasc> hi esden 16:38 < esden> the holy mathilda bless you guys ;-) 16:38 * daja77 gets down on his knees 16:39 < owl> hi kasc , daja77 16:39 < daja77> hi owl 16:39 < esden> you may stand up now daja77 16:40 < daja77> *sigh* 16:48 < Be-El> bbl 16:49 -!- Be-El [~be-el@p5082B370.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 17:08 -!- rxr [~rxr@port-212-202-173-211.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:08 < rxr> re 17:08 < owl> hi rxr 17:10 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9522D6C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:11 < esden> hi rxr 17:12 < rxr> hi esden 17:13 * daja77 curses via for ther errorprone chipsets 17:13 < rxr> via is on in killfile for some time now ... 17:15 < daja77> I'd like to add them too, if there would be more clueful vendors out there 17:16 < rxr> The recent SiS seemed to be fine ... 17:16 < rxr> the AMD for SMP ... 17:17 < daja77> huh, AMD makes chipsets again, glad to hear that, why they had stopped? 17:18 < rxr> Hm? They make the fat one for SMP machines since - they never stopped. 17:18 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux 17:18 < daja77> they stopped making them for single processor board, cos via had some, *puke* 17:19 < armijn> re 17:19 < rxr> jups. I wrote AMD for SMP ... ;-) 17:19 < rxr> hi armijn 17:19 < owl> hi armijn 17:19 < armijn> is it about free hardware? 17:19 < daja77> hi armijn 17:20 < daja77> rxr: I don't have an SMP machine, so it doesn'tr help 17:20 < daja77> armijn: no it is about crappy via chipsets 17:20 < armijn> oh, too bad 17:21 < armijn> I could use some more hardware... 17:21 * armijn looks around the room 17:21 < armijn> ...or maybe not 17:21 < rxr> ;-) 17:22 < daja77> or like Klaus Knopper put it: 17:22 < rxr> daja77: The last SiS were ok ... 17:22 < rxr> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 735 Host (rev 01) 17:22 < daja77> I have the most trouble with hardware, I'd like not to use it at all 17:23 < armijn> Klaus did some cool stuff with his distro 17:23 < rxr> Not a single problem here. I build some of those boxes - the run really well. 17:23 < rxr> This knoppix thing ? 17:23 < armijn> yeah, it rocks 17:23 < rxr> hm - why ? 17:23 < daja77> rxr: will have a look at it, even I have not the best experience with SiS 17:23 < armijn> the hwsetup is pretty nifty 17:24 < rxr> The Unified Memory Chipsets sucked - but the 7xx ones were really fast. (the latest nvidia are faster - but they seem to have soem missing GPL drivers) 17:24 < daja77> knoppix rocks, because you can turn every windoze box into a usable workstatio in a few minutes 17:25 < daja77> I never thought about using nforce based boards ;) 17:25 < rxr> armijn: hm it uses the vesa XFree driver for my SiS laptop. So the autodetection doesn't seem to work that perfect :-( 17:25 < rxr> a ROCK-live system is on the top of my TODO list ... 17:25 < armijn> it does a better job than most distros 17:25 < daja77> full ack 17:26 < rxr> point 1 after point 0 "Fixing remaining build issues ... 17:26 < rxr> " 17:27 < daja77> rxr: will you use the cloop filesystem, too? 17:28 < armijn> ah well, I should reinstall my last ROCK system with something else... 17:28 < armijn> will go for OpenBSD 17:28 < daja77> you still want to do this *g* 17:29 < armijn> yeah 17:29 < armijn> but I haven't gotten around to do it 17:30 < armijn> I'm quite busy :) 17:30 < rxr> armijn: why? Do you "hate" ROCK that much ? 17:30 < rxr> daja77: don't know yet. 17:31 < armijn> rxr: nah 17:31 < armijn> I don't hate ROCK, but there are some things I dislike in the system 17:31 < rxr> which parts? 17:31 < armijn> quite a few problems with UltraSparc and I can't be bothered to fix them 17:31 < armijn> well, package management is one of them 17:32 < daja77> armijn: that reminds me that I have a new NetBSD CD set lying around here ;) 17:33 < armijn> heh, yeah, also have to install NetBSD on a machine 17:35 < daja77> unfortunately, I don't have the time for it 17:39 < owl> hmmm... the rock-1.5 cvs changed a bit? *wondering* 17:43 < armijn> hi owl 17:43 < armijn> owl: probably not 17:43 < owl> armijn: your guess or do you know it...? 17:46 < armijn> owl: my guess 17:46 < owl> armijn: hmm.... 17:47 < owl> i just know, that the updating (of cvs...) takes ages... *yawn* 17:48 * armijn listening to Foetus 17:58 < armijn> am off 17:58 < armijn> cu 17:58 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has left #rocklinux () 18:25 * rxr away 18:40 -!- Parabull_ [~Parabull@62.99.178.159] has quit ("Client Exiting") 18:40 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@62.99.178.159] has joined #rocklinux 18:42 -!- rudlanCs is now known as ruddur 18:49 < esden> I hate deleting stuff due to a mistake >_< 18:50 < daja77> I hate lots of things, so never mind 19:33 * daja77 off for a while 19:41 -!- pjosggq [GOVGNPN@202.88.190.103] has joined #rocklinux 19:41 -!- pjosggq [GOVGNPN@202.88.190.103] has left #rocklinux () 19:46 < esden> hmm ... new glibc version ... 19:46 < esden> we may prepare for many broken packages ... *sigh* 19:50 -!- Ge0rG_ is now known as Ge0rG 20:35 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D828.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:35 < tcr> re all 20:37 < esden> re tcr 20:37 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090A74C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:38 < tcr> and also watching sat1? ;) 20:38 < daja77> tcr: me too ;) 20:41 < tcr> sat1 and commercial breaks ... 20:43 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090B51D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:46 < fronti> .o( evrybody is watching sat1 ) 20:47 * -> esden is asking himself how many of the people her are watching sat1 now ;-) 20:49 < fronti> hmm, if i want to update my system to pam support.. which packeges are a must to compile (pam of course..) 20:50 < tcr> shadow utils 20:50 < owl> hmmmm... too much... but - i can say: i'm not watchin TV (now) 20:51 < esden> owl: you may be ashamed 20:52 < owl> esden: why? 20:52 < tcr> muhaha. 20:53 < esden> owl: because it is a must to see Enterprise ;-) 20:53 < tcr> i bet the commcercial breaks will take 1h 20:53 < esden> if you want to survive in this channe ;-) 20:53 < tcr> all in all 20:53 < esden> tcr: yup ... enough time to get cigs 20:53 * -> esden off getting cigs 20:54 < owl> esden: nope... it's not a must... :P a must is to die (if it's time) 20:54 < daja77> owl: please stop that 20:54 < tcr> shut up, bitch and turn your tv on 20:54 < tcr> nuff said ;) 20:54 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9522D6C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:54 < daja77> tcr: you should be nicer 20:54 < owl> daja77: WHY? 20:55 < tcr> she wants it this way 20:55 < owl> aaah... sorry... capslock... 20:55 < daja77> owl: it gives me the creeps 20:55 < owl> tcr: did i say it? - no 20:57 < owl> daja77: and why? if you're 80 years or so... then you have to die... where's the problem? 20:57 < esden> re 20:57 < daja77> owl: I have no problem to die, just don't need you to tell me every day 20:58 < fronti> hmm, is it possible to build a package without installing it? like ./scripts/Build-Pkg -only-build package-name 20:58 < esden> daja77: ACK 20:58 < owl> bla 20:58 < daja77> esden: she'll never learn 20:58 < owl> daja77: bla 20:58 < esden> daja77: nope 20:59 < esden> fronti: It is possible but I do not know how ... 20:59 < tcr> she definitively needs someone who leashs her totally. Guys, it's time to really get her married ;) 20:59 < owl> it's my business, if i want/will to die or not. *grrrrr* 20:59 < daja77> tcr: marry her, then 21:00 < daja77> owl: it is yours, not ours 21:00 * daja77 wathcing tv again 21:00 < owl> tcr: i will never get leashed 21:00 < tcr> daja77: afaik you're still virgin^W^W^W^W^W^W unoccupied ;) 21:21 < daja77> tcr: huh? 21:22 < esden> "Found shared files with other packages" ... GRR 21:22 < daja77> esden: have seen this error too, how can this happen? 21:24 < tcr> daja77: well I should marry her to someone, and you've got the honor to be elected by me 21:24 < esden> I have this in textutils ... 21:24 < esden> tcr: why not you ? 21:24 < daja77> good question 21:24 < esden> tcr: you are talking all the time about it ... I think that you are the right one ... 21:25 < tcr> well, I'm too young to die ;) 21:25 < daja77> tcr: you don't have to ;) 21:26 * daja77 thinks that tcr hasn't enough courage to ask 21:27 < tcr> well, it wouldn't be equally to death, it would be even much worse! like meet a very agonizing death again and again and that's for eternity. No thank you, I'm not masochistic. 21:28 < tcr> back to tv 21:47 < daja77> *bah* so ein scheiss 21:49 < fronti> werbung nervt.. 21:49 < daja77> nicht nur das, die Nichtwerbung ist auch doof 21:49 < fronti> daja77: das auch.. 21:50 < esden> yes adverts suck 21:50 < daja77> fronti: das erinnert mich dunkel an den letzten Star Trek film *kübel* 21:51 < tcr> hmm 21:51 < fronti> daja77: den habe ich leider noch nicht gesehen.. da war ich genau im dipl. arbeitsstress und dann kam er schon nciht mehr im kino.. 21:51 < daja77> fronti: sei froh, ich habe die 8,50 ¤ bitter bereut 21:51 < tcr> dunno, it might be just some thing of familiarization... 21:52 < fronti> daja77: ;) 21:52 < daja77> tcr: *rofl* 21:52 < tcr> what 21:52 < daja77> what do you mean by familiarization? 21:53 < fronti> so, pam build is ready, the su binary has libpam in the ldd output.. all looks fine.. 21:53 < tcr> "es ist vielleicht nur eine Frage von Gewöhnung" 21:53 < fronti> now i have to build openssh 21:53 < daja77> tcr: vielleicht bin ich zu alt für so nen Scheiss 21:54 < tcr> I didn't like voyager in the first place, but with watching it regulary I quite adhere it 21:54 < tcr> adore 21:54 < tcr> yeh. some part of the typical star trek ambiance seems to be completely lost 21:54 < tcr> it's just like the new star wars movies: They all suck asses 22:08 < esden> well ... I am eager to see the next episode in german 22:09 < daja77> tcr: which movies do you mean? 22:10 < tcr> episode I and II 22:11 < daja77> sorry, I should read more carefully, *Star Wars*, ok 22:11 < daja77> at least the render it with linux ;) 22:13 < esden> hmm .. wget is broken >_< 22:14 < rxr> hm? 22:14 < tcr> ah hi rxr. 22:15 < tcr> rxr: moz 1.3 is out, and really an update worth 22:15 < tcr> rxr: and when are you going to release tp3? 22:15 < esden> rxr: I am not sure if it is a dietlibc problem so I am compiling it under glibc now 22:16 < esden> rxr: you want to see the error ? 22:17 < daja77> esden: are there any plans to change things like the init system according to dietlibc? 22:18 < esden> daja77: I first of all want to get all stages running under dietlibc ... when I did it (that will take probably several months) I will think about other things like tynyinit and so on 22:18 < rxr> esden: ourgs - only if necessary ... ;-) 22:18 < esden> ok 22:18 < esden> ok the problem is dietlibc related 22:19 < daja77> esden: minit sounds nice 22:19 < rxr> :-( 22:23 < tcr> muhaha 22:24 < daja77> ? 22:24 < tcr> MI2 at pro7.. that movie sucks hell 22:24 < daja77> tcr: now it is a good time to switch tv off, there is nothing interesting at the moment 22:25 < tcr> well I quite like 'genial daneben' 22:25 < esden> daja77: yes minit ... 22:25 * tcr brb 22:25 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D828.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 22:26 < esden> puhh ... my old monitor back online !!! *happy* 22:26 < daja77> esden: maybe I can help you, when I got my machine back working 22:27 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D828.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:30 < esden> daja77: any help is appreciated 22:30 < esden> but be warned dietlibc is hard drive ... for me at least :-/ 22:31 < esden> I mean hard ride 22:32 < daja77> esden: I know, before I tried rock, I tried to bring up a LFS like system with dietlibc 22:32 < esden> how far have you come ? 22:33 < daja77> well, I had trouble with commands like mount 22:34 < tcr> just loaded up for some friend.. maybe someone other is interested... https://freebits.de/trash/ewiges%20reich%20-%2008%20-%20auferstehung.mp3 22:34 < daja77> what is that? 22:34 < tfing> tcr: updated to gnome2.2, gtagger works like a charm :) 22:35 < esden> tcr: permission denied 22:36 < tcr> permission denied?! 22:36 < esden> tcr: ack 22:36 < esden> tcr: ahh sorry my fault 22:36 < tcr> huh? it works here, and the guy i uploaded it for also got it 22:37 < daja77> download works 22:37 < tcr> tfing: wonderful. In some point in future I'll create a rock package for it ;) 22:37 < esden> tcr: down, thanks 22:39 < esden> tcr: that sounds terrible ... 22:40 < tcr> not at all :P 22:41 < esden> "jedem das seine" 22:42 < ringo78> the music is nice but why the screeming pigs ;-) 22:42 < owl> *lol* 22:42 < esden> good question ringo78 22:43 < owl> someone seems to be killed... slowly and painflul...? 22:44 < daja77> owl: I guess it's you ;) 22:44 < owl> daja77: *kick* nope... i'm alive... as you can see 22:45 < daja77> owl: *kick back* 22:45 < owl> *sniff* 22:45 < daja77> tcr: you are weird 22:46 < daja77> owl: need a hadkerchief? 22:46 < daja77> damn typos today 22:46 < owl> daja77: nope. thx. 22:46 < tcr> ewiges reich creates a perfect atmosphere of a misanthropic rush... 22:48 < daja77> rm -rf ewiges%20reich%20-%2008%20-%20auferstehung.mp3 22:50 < owl> creating? with what stuff? - i guess a exploding bottle or so would create a better atmosphere than those screaming and/or dying metal-guys... (imho) 22:50 < ringo78> tcr: my neighbors gonna love you for that. 22:51 < daja77> tcr: the create a feeling of aggression, as you could see 22:51 < esden> ok ... wget seems to be fixed 22:53 < esden> ok ... next packet that is feeling about deserving my attention ... *sigh* 23:01 < rxr> esden: what was the reason for the bug ? 23:02 < esden> rxr: the implementation of assert in dietlibc differs slightly from the implementation in glibc ... so it gets problems. some additional brackets solved the problem 23:03 < esden> ok util_linux fixed too 23:04 < rxr> ;-) 23:04 < tcr> esden: huh? how should that matter a bug of compilcation? 23:04 < tcr> -c 23:04 < rxr> Do you push such patches do fefe ? 23:05 < rxr> s/do//to/ 23:05 < tcr> it sounds more reasonable that one implemention doesnt do anything correctly 23:06 < esden> I push all patches that affect dietlibc to him when I know that the patch is not a hack ... 23:06 < esden> I will ask him to take a look at dietlibc target when everything works correctly till stage 2 without hours of hacking 23:06 < esden> I hope that I am pretty near to that gole 23:07 < rxr> nice! 23:09 < esden> rxr: OFYI I got the patches to get perl running under dietlibc today ! 23:09 < rxr> ;-) And how much hacking is this? 23:10 < esden> the changes that were needed in dietlibc are already in the cvs 23:10 < esden> I will add the possibility to use cvs version of dietlibc in the next time 23:11 < esden> fefe says in his faq that one should use the cvs and not the released versions because there are many things that are importaint ... and he releases dietlibc not so often 23:11 < esden> rxr: there were two functions missing in dietlibc to get perl running 23:12 < esden> and you have to change some setting in perl 23:12 < esden> that is all you have to do 23:12 < rxr> ah.- 23:17 < esden> hmm ... another function that is missing: syscall 23:17 < rxr> hm? 23:17 < esden> yes, in dietlibc the function syscall is missing 23:18 < rxr> rene:~/develop/rock$ grep sys/syscall.h /var/adm/flists/* 23:18 < rxr> /var/adm/flists/dietlibc:dietlibc: usr/dietlibc/include/sys/syscall.h 23:18 < rxr> /var/adm/flists/glibc23:glibc23: usr/include/sys/syscall.h 23:18 < rxr> is the header empty ? 23:19 < rxr> hm only includes asm/unistd.h ... 23:19 -!- beli [~beli@pD9E641AA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:19 < beli> hi there 23:20 < beli> howto obtain rocklinux via rsync? 23:20 < beli> whats the module name for current? 23:22 < tcr> moin 23:23 < esden> I do not know the module name ... but why not using cvs ? 23:23 < tcr> bot is described at https://www.rocklinux.de/snapshots/ 23:23 < esden> and hi sbtw 23:23 < tcr> both 23:24 < beli> because i like rsync 23:24 < beli> i found it out: rocklinux-snapshot 23:24 < beli> but thanks 23:26 < esden> hmm ... nice the only packet that is still failing in stage 1 is module-init-tools 23:26 < esden> very well 23:26 < beli> hmpfl 23:27 < beli> it got me the whole rocklinux current in just 3 mins via dsl connection 23:27 < beli> lol 23:27 < beli> i guess it synched the native patches only 23:27 < tcr> rxr: please don't put that all in one patch 23:28 < tcr> It's terrible labor intensive to go through that 23:29 < beli> is there no possibility to download the sources AND the native patches? 23:29 < tcr> sorry, really dont get what you want 23:30 < esden> WEE binutils compile in stage 2 ! 23:30 * -> esden jumps around 23:30 < rxr> tcr: ? 23:31 < rxr> congrats esden 23:31 < rxr> tcr: you mean my patches on the list ? 23:31 < esden> rxr: more interesting is if gcc3 will compile ... /me gets pretty nervous 23:31 < beli> is rocklinux just a collection of native patches? 23:32 < rxr> beli: hm?!? what do you mean with native patches ? 23:32 < beli> i need some sources to build a linux distribution 23:32 < beli> right? 23:33 < tcr> rxr: sorry, didn't recognized it's a patch that contains various other patches from other people. It's ok then... 23:33 < rxr> tcr: no it contains more 23:33 < rxr> tcr: but this is the "I'm the maintainer fot those repositories" patch that goes to Cliff some times a days 23:33 < rxr> tcr: my Create4Clifford.sh creates seperate patches - but I do cat them into a big one if they are too small 23:34 < tcr> however, might be just that I'm already damn sleepy 23:34 < tcr> and you haven't answer yet to my questiones I asked you when you joined 23:35 < beli> rocklinux just provides a buildscript and is going to download the sources from the net? 23:35 < rxr> tcr: the only reason this patch did went to the list (normally my repository / target work goes to cliff directly) is that I patches blackbox and I wanted to show michiel this change so he can veto the thiing ... 23:35 < tcr> al right rxr 23:35 < tcr> beli: well primarely yes 23:35 < rxr> beli: yes ROCK Linux provides an "Auto-Build-System" with a huge "package database" 23:35 < tcr> very primarely actually 23:35 < beli> er okay 23:36 < beli> but what's with computers not connected to the internet? 23:36 < beli> there should really be some source tree 23:36 < rxr> beli: what's the difference you need internet to get this fat source tree, too 23:36 < beli> or maybe someone has a slow internet connection and his friend can get the sources faster 23:36 < beli> that's the difference 23:36 < rxr> and we have such a source-tree lying on our mirror sites ... 23:37 < tcr> beli: that's possible of course 23:37 < beli> rxr: url please? 23:37 < daja77> beli: linux without internet sucks anyway ;) 23:37 < beli> lol 23:37 < beli> depends 23:37 < tcr> beli: you friend could download them and burn you a CD, you can use at your computer 23:37 < rxr> beli: you can get an ISO, too .. 23:37 < beli> could download them == you need to know where they are, and where to download them 23:37 < beli> if there is a single location, tell me, and it's fine 23:38 < beli> otherwise it's bullshit ;) 23:38 < tcr> beli: that's done by a script 23:39 < tcr> beli: it looks in (very abstractly thought) a database for the official location of the packages and downloads it from there 23:39 < beli> oh fine, the script collects the sources for me and puts them in one directory so i can burn them for someone else? 23:39 < tcr> beli: there's of course also a script to burn it ;) 23:39 < beli> hehe, no need 23:39 < tcr> well 23:39 < beli> ok, now everything sounds better 23:39 < tcr> it might create some directory tree the others are relying on 23:39 < tcr> or other things 23:40 < daja77> tcr: no there is no script to burn the sources 23:40 < beli> rocklinux homepage should really explain that at the intro section 23:40 < beli> daja77: we don't care 23:40 < tcr> not?! I'm quite sure there was 23:40 < daja77> beli: it's alright just wanted to mention 23:41 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.net/mirrors.cgi?1.7-snapshot 23:41 < rxr> or use our scripts ... 23:41 < beli> fine 23:41 < daja77> I guess that the last snapshot is more broken than cvs version 23:42 < beli> where to get your scripts? 23:42 < tcr> beli: ROCK can do absolutely everything. It's just limited in your capability 23:42 < rxr> urgs 23:42 < rxr> you can read ? 23:42 < rxr> Ë 23:42 < rxr> Ë 23:42 < beli> your said or 23:42 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.org/ 23:42 < beli> but no url 23:42 < beli> oh ;) 23:42 < tcr> <tcr> bot is described at https://www.rocklinux.de/snapshots/ 23:42 < rxr> The "Getting" entry in the menu on the top of the page !!!!!!!!!!! 23:42 < beli> tcr: every linux has this capability 23:43 < beli> i am using slackware linux and Owl 23:43 < daja77> no 23:43 < rxr> it isn't that difficutlt... 23:43 < daja77> you are using owl *rofl* 23:43 < owl> daja77: :PPP 23:43 < tcr> rxr: well it's quite late ;) he shall be forgiven 23:43 < beli> hehe 23:43 < rxr> tcr: ah I see ... 23:43 < beli> www.openwall.com/Owl 23:43 < esden> owl: you are being used ... isn't that nice ? 23:44 < beli> solar designer's linux distro 23:44 < owl> esden: you want a kick i guess... 23:44 < tcr> cheap slut she is 23:44 < daja77> beli: I know, it is funny anyway 23:44 < beli> harhar 23:44 < esden> tcr: opensource 23:44 < beli> yeah, right 23:44 < daja77> tcr: boy watch your language 23:44 < tcr> esden: hah ;) 23:44 < tcr> daja77: no worry, owl knows I'm kidding 23:45 < esden> tcr: you can get her whenever you want and for frico 23:45 < daja77> tcr: at least she's not kicking you 23:45 < tcr> for frico? is this her gay slut brother? 23:45 < owl> cuz i didn't see what tcr wrote... 23:45 < daja77> hehe 23:45 < daja77> owl: you should keep it this way 23:46 * owl takes a sword and kills tcr with the sword... "die, die, die!!!" 23:46 < beli> owl: kicking is lame ;) 23:46 < owl> beli: yep. sword is better ;) 23:46 < tcr> well, kicking in one's ball is rather painful than lame 23:46 < esden> ok gcc3 is not willing to compile with a gcc3 compiled under dietlibc ... *sigh* 23:46 < rxr> tcr: by the way: I enabled some of your packages for the dRock build ... 23:46 < beli> ignore is the most powerfull thingie on irc 23:47 < tcr> rxr: ?-) 23:47 < owl> beli: hehe. full ack. 23:47 < tcr> muha 23:47 < rxr> tcr: hm ? 23:47 < tcr> rxr: didnt get you, what packages of me? 23:48 < rxr> # some selected peaces from the tibit repository 23:48 < rxr> ctags / { p; d; }; 23:48 < rxr> dvdrip / { p; d; }; 23:48 < rxr> fvwm / { p; d; }; 23:48 < rxr> libchipcard / { p; d; }; 23:48 < rxr> libdv / { p; d; }; 23:48 < rxr> libstroke / { p; d; }; 23:48 < rxr> mjpegtools / { p; d; }; 23:48 < rxr> nvrec / { p; d; }; 23:48 < rxr> openhbci / { p; d; }; 23:48 < rxr> xvid / { p; d; }; 23:48 < tcr> ignore is the function for all those suckers that are lacking on self-conciousness and dealing with unasked guest. 23:49 < tcr> and inability in dealing... 23:49 < daja77> tcr: get down 23:49 < tcr> rxr: ?? I'm not tibit 23:51 < tcr> daja77: well what? Is there something like that in real life? no, surely not. People using it just affirm me that they presumably have some psychologic problems 23:52 < tcr> well actually not psychologic, but social 23:52 < owl> a- 23:52 < daja77> tcr: you wouldn't talk like this irl, believe me 23:53 < tcr> hm? 23:53 < daja77> btw, filtering is useful in usenet, too 23:53 < tcr> I wouldn't at all talk about that irl, because it's a pathetic matter of discussion 23:54 < owl> nothing.. just commented one of your statements... 23:54 < daja77> filtering equals not to talk to someone irl 23:54 < daja77> this happens quite often 23:54 < tcr> no, it really doesnt 23:54 < beli> have you ever tried gentoo? what is main difference to rocklinux? 23:54 < tcr> now youre making it yourself just too easy 23:55 < daja77> I am awaiting your explanation 23:55 < tcr> No. Gentoo is a source based distribution, Rocklinux a distribution tool kit 23:55 < tcr> with an inlined distribution though 23:56 < tcr> daja77: you can't just press some button, and you'll never hear of someone 23:56 < tcr> and 23:56 < beli> okay 23:57 < tcr> the really meeting equality to not talking to someone would be not to answer to someone 23:57 < beli> so, rocklinux does no patching of sources like other distos, it's just a one-in-one build tool? 23:57 < beli> s/distos/distros/ 23:57 < daja77> tcr: it might be harder to avoid someone but it is not impossible 23:58 < tcr> well it does... though just for the purpose that all packages are built in the big intertwined construction of rocklinux per se 23:59 < tcr> daja77: it is. Unless you are blind and deaf. 23:59 < daja77> tcr: this doesn't help you ;) --- Log closed Sun Mar 16 00:00:13 2003