--- Log opened Sat Mar 15 00:00:08 2003
--- Day changed Sat Mar 15 2003
00:00 < Mike1> daja77: you need to make cluster builds, and on router, uml and dietlibc targets on bughunting
00:00 < Mike1> and help on ...
00:00 < Mike1> damn i hate to type while i speak on the phone
00:00 < esden> Mike1: I can imagine that .... ;-)
00:01 < daja77> cluster build: no, dietlibc target I'm interested anyway
00:01 < esden> ok ... sorry guys ... I will have to leave you ... /me needs to get up early tomorrow
00:01 < esden> daja77: I will probably have more to tell you about the dietlibc target tomorrow
00:01 < Mike1> daja77: finally, there are 2 more things
00:02 < daja77> esden: cu, like to hear from you tomorrow
00:02 < Mike1> you need to get owl to make coffee for esden and me, and to give her a bear hug without been killed
00:02 < Mike1> ok cu esden
00:02 < esden> daja77: I am sure that it is easy for you what mike told you ;-)
00:02 < esden> ok ... cu then
00:02 < daja77> ah these are hard tests, damn
00:02 < esden> n8
00:02 < Mike1> lol
00:02 < Mike1> gutte nach mein freund
00:03 < Mike1> nacht*
00:03 < daja77> don't mind the typos today
00:03 < daja77> btw, I'm restoring the rock dir from the laptop
00:04 < daja77> after the e2fsck run, all the data was lost
00:19 < Mike1> n8 all
00:19 < daja77> n8?
00:20 < Mike1> daja77: i am off
00:20 < Mike1> dinner with gf tonight
00:20 < daja77> ok, then see you tomorrow
00:20 < Mike1> daja77: will be racing this weekend
00:20 < Mike1> so will cu untill monday
00:20 < Mike1> :))
00:21 < Mike1> daja77: /me mountain bike racer :)
00:21 < daja77> no problem, have fun with the racing
00:21 < Mike1> bye
00:21 < daja77> bye
00:36 < daja77> anybody out there?
00:45 < daja77> gn8 all
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03:46 < owl> *gnaaaaaaaaaaa* not again... (falling asleep on the notebook and using it as pillow) --> now using a real pillow as pillow... gn8
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08:35 < tcr> moin all
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09:16 < tcr> moin ruddur
09:16 < ruddur> hi tcr
09:16 < tcr> ca va?
09:16 < ruddur> bien merci
09:17 < ruddur> et toi
09:17 < tcr> le week-end, c'est super!
09:18 < ruddur> oui
09:18 < ruddur> il va faire beau temps
09:18 < tcr> at last time again for coding... that's great
09:18 < ruddur> yes
09:18 < ruddur> close in the house
09:19 * tcr is listening to Crystalium - Je Suis Le Christ
09:23 < tcr> hmm seems to be a decent band
09:24 < ruddur> he is god
09:24 < ruddur> hum
09:28 < tcr> oh got to reconnect ,brb
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13:25 < kasc_> moin
13:43 < owl> hi
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13:50 < owl> hi tfing
13:54 < tfing> yop
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14:37 < ringo78> moin
14:39 < owl> hi ringo78
14:57 < esden> hi all
14:59 * -> esden got patches for perl to get it running under dietlibc !!!
14:59 < esden> WEEE
14:59 * -> esden jumps around
15:01 < owl> hi esden
15:03 < esden> hi owl
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16:27 < Be-El> hi ppl
16:28 < owl> hi Be-El
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16:37 < daja77> moin
16:38 < esden> moin daja77 
16:38 < kasc_> auch moin
16:38 < daja77> hi esden
16:38 < esden> moin kasc_ 
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16:38 < kasc> hi esden
16:38 < esden> the holy mathilda bless you guys ;-)
16:38 * daja77 gets down on his knees
16:39 < owl> hi kasc , daja77
16:39 < daja77> hi owl
16:39 < esden> you may stand up now daja77 
16:40 < daja77> *sigh*
16:48 < Be-El> bbl
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17:08 < rxr> re
17:08 < owl> hi rxr
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17:11 < esden> hi rxr 
17:12 < rxr> hi esden
17:13 * daja77 curses via for ther errorprone chipsets
17:13 < rxr> via is on in killfile for some time now ...
17:15 < daja77> I'd like to add them too, if there would be more clueful vendors out there
17:16 < rxr> The recent SiS seemed to be fine ...
17:16 < rxr> the AMD for SMP ...
17:17 < daja77> huh, AMD makes chipsets again, glad to hear that, why they had stopped?
17:18 < rxr> Hm? They make the fat one for SMP machines since  - they never stopped.
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17:18 < daja77> they stopped making them for single processor board, cos via had some, *puke*
17:19 < armijn> re
17:19 < rxr> jups. I wrote AMD for SMP ... ;-)
17:19 < rxr> hi armijn
17:19 < owl> hi armijn
17:19 < armijn> is it about free hardware?
17:19 < daja77> hi armijn
17:20 < daja77> rxr: I don't have an SMP machine, so it doesn'tr help
17:20 < daja77> armijn: no it is about crappy via chipsets
17:20 < armijn> oh, too bad
17:21 < armijn> I could use some more hardware...
17:21 * armijn looks around the room
17:21 < armijn> ...or maybe not
17:21 < rxr> ;-)
17:22 < daja77> or like Klaus Knopper put it:
17:22 < rxr> daja77: The last SiS were ok ...
17:22 < rxr> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 735 Host (rev 01)
17:22 < daja77> I have the most trouble with hardware, I'd like not to use it at all
17:23 < armijn> Klaus did some cool stuff with his distro
17:23 < rxr> Not a single problem here. I build some of those boxes - the run really well.
17:23 < rxr> This knoppix thing ?
17:23 < armijn> yeah, it rocks
17:23 < rxr> hm - why ?
17:23 < daja77> rxr: will have a look at it, even I have not the best experience with SiS
17:23 < armijn> the hwsetup is pretty nifty
17:24 < rxr> The Unified Memory Chipsets sucked - but the 7xx ones were really fast. (the latest nvidia are faster - but they seem to have soem missing GPL drivers)
17:24 < daja77> knoppix rocks, because you can turn every windoze box into a usable workstatio in a few minutes
17:25 < daja77> I never thought about using nforce based boards ;)
17:25 < rxr> armijn: hm it uses the vesa XFree driver for my SiS laptop. So the autodetection doesn't seem to work that perfect :-(
17:25 < rxr> a ROCK-live system is on the top of my TODO list ...
17:25 < armijn> it does a better job than most distros
17:25 < daja77> full ack
17:26 < rxr> point 1 after point 0 "Fixing remaining build issues ...
17:26 < rxr> "
17:27 < daja77> rxr: will you use the cloop filesystem, too?
17:28 < armijn> ah well, I should reinstall my last ROCK system with something else...
17:28 < armijn> will go for OpenBSD
17:28 < daja77> you still want to do this *g*
17:29 < armijn> yeah
17:29 < armijn> but I haven't gotten around to do it
17:30 < armijn> I'm quite busy :)
17:30 < rxr> armijn: why? Do you "hate" ROCK that much ?
17:30 < rxr> daja77: don't know yet.
17:31 < armijn> rxr: nah
17:31 < armijn> I don't hate ROCK, but there are some things I dislike in the system
17:31 < rxr> which parts?
17:31 < armijn> quite a few problems with UltraSparc and I can't be bothered to fix them
17:31 < armijn> well, package management is one of them
17:32 < daja77> armijn: that reminds me that I have a new NetBSD CD set lying around here ;)
17:33 < armijn> heh, yeah, also have to install NetBSD on a machine
17:35 < daja77> unfortunately, I don't have the time for it
17:39 < owl> hmmm... the rock-1.5 cvs changed a bit? *wondering*
17:43 < armijn> hi owl
17:43 < armijn> owl: probably not
17:43 < owl> armijn: your guess or do you know it...?
17:46 < armijn> owl: my guess
17:46 < owl> armijn: hmm....
17:47 < owl> i just know, that the updating (of cvs...) takes ages... *yawn*
17:48 * armijn listening to Foetus
17:58 < armijn> am off
17:58 < armijn> cu
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18:49 < esden> I hate deleting stuff due to a mistake >_<
18:50 < daja77> I hate lots of things, so never mind
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19:46 < esden> hmm ... new glibc version ...
19:46 < esden> we may prepare for many broken packages ... *sigh*
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20:35 < tcr> re all
20:37 < esden> re tcr 
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20:38 < tcr> and also watching sat1? ;)
20:38 < daja77> tcr: me too ;)
20:41 < tcr> sat1 and commercial breaks ...
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20:46 < fronti> .o( evrybody is watching sat1 )
20:47 * -> esden is asking himself how many of the people her are watching sat1 now ;-)
20:49 < fronti> hmm, if i want to update my system to pam support.. which packeges are a must to compile (pam of course..)
20:50 < tcr> shadow utils
20:50 < owl> hmmmm... too much... but - i can say: i'm not watchin TV (now)
20:51 < esden> owl: you may be ashamed
20:52 < owl> esden: why?
20:52 < tcr> muhaha.
20:53 < esden> owl: because it is a must to see Enterprise ;-)
20:53 < tcr> i bet the commcercial breaks will take 1h
20:53 < esden> if you want to survive in this channe ;-)
20:53 < tcr> all in all
20:53 < esden> tcr: yup ... enough time to get cigs
20:53 * -> esden off getting cigs
20:54 < owl> esden: nope... it's not a must... :P a must is to die  (if it's time)
20:54 < daja77> owl: please stop that
20:54 < tcr> shut up, bitch and turn your tv on
20:54 < tcr> nuff said ;)
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20:54 < daja77> tcr: you should be nicer
20:54 < owl> daja77: WHY?
20:55 < tcr> she wants it this way
20:55 < owl> aaah... sorry... capslock...
20:55 < daja77> owl: it gives me the creeps
20:55 < owl> tcr: did i say it? - no
20:57 < owl> daja77: and why? if you're 80 years or so... then you have to die... where's the problem?
20:57 < esden> re
20:57 < daja77> owl: I have no problem to die, just don't need you to tell me every day
20:58 < fronti> hmm, is it possible to build a package without installing it? like ./scripts/Build-Pkg -only-build package-name
20:58 < esden> daja77: ACK
20:58 < owl> bla
20:58 < daja77> esden: she'll never learn
20:58 < owl> daja77: bla
20:58 < esden> daja77: nope
20:59 < esden> fronti: It is possible but I do not know how ...
20:59 < tcr> she definitively needs someone who leashs her totally. Guys, it's time to really get her married ;)
20:59 < owl> it's my business, if i want/will to die or not. *grrrrr*
20:59 < daja77> tcr: marry her, then
21:00 < daja77> owl: it is yours, not ours
21:00 * daja77 wathcing tv again
21:00 < owl> tcr: i will never get leashed
21:00 < tcr> daja77: afaik you're still virgin^W^W^W^W^W^W unoccupied ;)
21:21 < daja77> tcr: huh?
21:22 < esden> "Found shared files with other packages" ... GRR
21:22 < daja77> esden: have seen this error too, how can this happen?
21:24 < tcr> daja77: well I should marry her to someone, and you've got the honor to be elected by me
21:24 < esden> I have this in textutils ... 
21:24 < esden> tcr: why not you ?
21:24 < daja77> good question
21:24 < esden> tcr: you are talking all the time about it ... I think that you are the right one ...
21:25 < tcr> well, I'm too young to die ;)
21:25 < daja77> tcr: you don't have to ;)
21:26 * daja77 thinks that tcr hasn't enough courage to ask
21:27 < tcr> well, it wouldn't be equally to death, it would be even much worse! like meet a very agonizing death again and again and that's for eternity. No thank you, I'm not masochistic.
21:28 < tcr> back to tv
21:47 < daja77> *bah* so ein scheiss
21:49 < fronti> werbung nervt..
21:49 < daja77> nicht nur das, die Nichtwerbung ist auch doof
21:49 < fronti> daja77: das auch..
21:50 < esden> yes adverts suck
21:50 < daja77> fronti: das erinnert mich dunkel an den letzten Star Trek film *kübel*
21:51 < tcr> hmm
21:51 < fronti> daja77: den habe ich leider noch nicht gesehen.. da war ich genau im dipl. arbeitsstress und dann kam er schon nciht mehr im kino..
21:51 < daja77> fronti: sei froh, ich habe die 8,50 ¤ bitter bereut
21:51 < tcr> dunno, it might be just some thing of familiarization...
21:52 < fronti> daja77: ;)
21:52 < daja77> tcr: *rofl*
21:52 < tcr> what
21:52 < daja77> what do you mean by familiarization?
21:53 < fronti> so, pam build is ready, the su binary has libpam in the ldd output.. all looks fine..
21:53 < tcr> "es ist vielleicht nur eine Frage von Gewöhnung"
21:53 < fronti> now i have to build openssh
21:53 < daja77> tcr: vielleicht bin ich zu alt für so nen Scheiss
21:54 < tcr> I didn't like voyager in the first place, but with watching it regulary I quite adhere it
21:54 < tcr> adore
21:54 < tcr> yeh. some part of the typical star trek ambiance seems to be completely lost
21:54 < tcr> it's just like the new star wars movies: They all suck asses
22:08 < esden> well ... I am eager to see the next episode in german
22:09 < daja77> tcr: which movies do you mean?
22:10 < tcr> episode I and II
22:11 < daja77> sorry, I should read more carefully, *Star Wars*, ok
22:11 < daja77> at least the render it with linux ;)
22:13 < esden> hmm .. wget is broken >_<
22:14 < rxr> hm?
22:14 < tcr> ah hi rxr.
22:15 < tcr> rxr: moz 1.3 is out, and really an update worth
22:15 < tcr> rxr: and when are you going to release tp3?
22:15 < esden> rxr: I am not sure if it is a dietlibc problem so I am compiling it under glibc now 
22:16 < esden> rxr: you want to see the error ?
22:17 < daja77> esden: are there any plans to change things like the init system according to dietlibc?
22:18 < esden> daja77: I first of all want to get all stages running under dietlibc ... when I did it (that will take probably several months) I will think about other things like tynyinit and so on
22:18 < rxr> esden: ourgs - only if necessary ... ;-)
22:18 < esden> ok
22:18 < esden> ok the problem is dietlibc related
22:19 < daja77> esden: minit sounds nice
22:19 < rxr> :-(
22:23 < tcr> muhaha
22:24 < daja77> ?
22:24 < tcr> MI2 at pro7.. that movie sucks hell
22:24 < daja77> tcr: now it is a good time to switch tv off, there is nothing interesting at the moment
22:25 < tcr> well I quite like 'genial daneben'
22:25 < esden> daja77: yes minit ...
22:25 * tcr brb
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22:26 < esden> puhh ... my old monitor back online !!! *happy*
22:26 < daja77> esden: maybe I can help you, when I got my machine back working
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22:30 < esden> daja77: any help is appreciated
22:30 < esden> but be warned dietlibc is hard drive ... for me at least :-/
22:31 < esden> I mean hard ride
22:32 < daja77> esden: I know, before I tried rock, I tried to bring up a LFS like system with dietlibc
22:32 < esden> how far have you come ?
22:33 < daja77> well, I had trouble with commands like mount
22:34 < tcr> just loaded up for some friend.. maybe someone other is interested... http://freebits.de/trash/ewiges%20reich%20-%2008%20-%20auferstehung.mp3
22:34 < daja77> what is that?
22:34 < tfing> tcr: updated to gnome2.2, gtagger works like a charm :)
22:35 < esden> tcr: permission denied
22:36 < tcr> permission denied?!
22:36 < esden> tcr: ack
22:36 < esden> tcr: ahh sorry my fault
22:36 < tcr> huh? it works here, and the guy i uploaded it for also got it
22:37 < daja77> download works
22:37 < tcr> tfing: wonderful. In some point in future I'll create a rock package for it ;)
22:37 < esden> tcr: down, thanks
22:39 < esden> tcr: that sounds terrible ...
22:40 < tcr> not at all :P
22:41 < esden> "jedem das seine"
22:42 < ringo78>  the music is nice but why the screeming pigs ;-)
22:42 < owl> *lol*
22:42 < esden> good question ringo78 
22:43 < owl> someone seems to be killed... slowly and painflul...?
22:44 < daja77> owl: I guess it's you ;)
22:44 < owl> daja77: *kick* nope... i'm alive... as you can see
22:45 < daja77> owl: *kick back*
22:45 < owl> *sniff*
22:45 < daja77> tcr: you are weird
22:46 < daja77> owl: need a hadkerchief?
22:46 < daja77> damn typos today
22:46 < owl> daja77: nope. thx.
22:46 < tcr> ewiges reich creates a perfect atmosphere of a misanthropic rush...
22:48 < daja77> rm -rf ewiges%20reich%20-%2008%20-%20auferstehung.mp3
22:50 < owl> creating? with what stuff? - i guess a exploding bottle or so would create a better atmosphere than those screaming and/or dying metal-guys... (imho)
22:50 < ringo78> tcr: my neighbors gonna love you for that.
22:51 < daja77> tcr: the create a feeling of aggression, as you could see
22:51 < esden> ok ... wget seems to be fixed
22:53 < esden> ok ... next packet that is feeling about deserving my attention ... *sigh*
23:01 < rxr> esden: what was the reason for the bug ?
23:02 < esden> rxr: the implementation of assert in dietlibc differs slightly from the implementation in glibc ... so it gets problems. some additional brackets solved the problem
23:03 < esden> ok util_linux fixed too
23:04 < rxr> ;-)
23:04 < tcr> esden: huh? how should that matter a bug of compilcation?
23:04 < tcr> -c
23:04 < rxr> Do you push such patches do fefe ?
23:05 < rxr> s/do//to/
23:05 < tcr> it sounds more reasonable that one implemention doesnt do anything correctly
23:06 < esden> I push all patches that affect dietlibc to him when I know that the patch is not a hack ... 
23:06 < esden> I will ask him to take a look at dietlibc target when everything works correctly till stage 2 without hours of hacking
23:06 < esden> I hope that I am pretty near to that gole
23:07 < rxr> nice!
23:09 < esden> rxr: OFYI I got the patches to get perl running under dietlibc today !
23:09 < rxr> ;-) And how much hacking is this?
23:10 < esden> the changes that were needed in dietlibc are already in the cvs
23:10 < esden> I will add the possibility to use cvs version of dietlibc in the next time
23:11 < esden> fefe says in his faq that one should use the cvs and not the released versions because there are many things that are importaint ... and he releases dietlibc not so often 
23:11 < esden> rxr: there were two functions missing in dietlibc to get perl running
23:12 < esden> and you have to change some setting in perl 
23:12 < esden> that is all you have to do
23:12 < rxr> ah.-
23:17 < esden> hmm ... another function that is missing: syscall
23:17 < rxr> hm?
23:17 < esden> yes, in dietlibc the function syscall is missing
23:18 < rxr> rene:~/develop/rock$ grep sys/syscall.h /var/adm/flists/*
23:18 < rxr> /var/adm/flists/dietlibc:dietlibc: usr/dietlibc/include/sys/syscall.h
23:18 < rxr> /var/adm/flists/glibc23:glibc23: usr/include/sys/syscall.h
23:18 < rxr> is the header empty ?
23:19 < rxr> hm only includes asm/unistd.h ...
23:19 -!- beli [~beli@pD9E641AA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
23:19 < beli> hi there
23:20 < beli> howto obtain rocklinux via rsync?
23:20 < beli> whats the module name for current?
23:22 < tcr> moin
23:23 < esden> I do not know the module name ... but why not using cvs ?
23:23 < tcr> bot is described at http://www.rocklinux.de/snapshots/
23:23 < esden> and hi sbtw
23:23 < tcr> both
23:24 < beli> because i like rsync
23:24 < beli> i found it out: rocklinux-snapshot
23:24 < beli> but thanks
23:26 < esden> hmm ... nice the only packet that is still failing in stage 1 is module-init-tools
23:26 < esden> very well
23:26 < beli> hmpfl
23:27 < beli> it got me the whole rocklinux current in just 3 mins via dsl connection
23:27 < beli> lol
23:27 < beli> i guess it synched the native patches only
23:27 < tcr> rxr: please don't put that all in one patch
23:28 < tcr> It's terrible labor intensive to go through that
23:29 < beli> is there no possibility to download the sources AND the native patches?
23:29 < tcr>  sorry, really dont get what you want
23:30 < esden> WEE binutils compile in stage 2 !
23:30 * -> esden jumps around
23:30 < rxr> tcr: ?
23:31 < rxr> congrats esden
23:31 < rxr> tcr: you mean my patches on the list ?
23:31 < esden> rxr: more interesting is if gcc3 will compile ... /me gets pretty nervous
23:31 < beli> is rocklinux just a collection of native patches?
23:32 < rxr> beli: hm?!? what do you mean with native patches ?
23:32 < beli> i need some sources to build a linux distribution
23:32 < beli> right?
23:33 < tcr> rxr: sorry, didn't recognized it's a patch that contains various other patches from other people. It's ok then...
23:33 < rxr> tcr: no it contains more
23:33 < rxr> tcr: but this is the "I'm the maintainer fot those repositories" patch that goes to Cliff some times a days
23:33 < rxr> tcr: my Create4Clifford.sh creates seperate patches - but I do cat them into a big one if they are too small
23:34 < tcr> however, might be just that I'm already damn sleepy
23:34 < tcr> and you haven't answer yet to my questiones I asked you when you joined
23:35 < beli> rocklinux just provides a buildscript and is going to download the sources from the net?
23:35 < rxr> tcr: the only reason this patch did went to the list (normally my repository / target work goes to cliff directly) is that I patches blackbox and I wanted to show michiel this change so he can veto the thiing ...
23:35 < tcr> al right rxr
23:35 < tcr> beli: well primarely yes
23:35 < rxr> beli: yes ROCK Linux provides an "Auto-Build-System" with a huge "package database"
23:35 < tcr> very primarely actually
23:35 < beli> er okay
23:36 < beli> but what's with computers not connected to the internet?
23:36 < beli> there should really be some source tree
23:36 < rxr> beli: what's the difference you need internet to get this fat source tree, too
23:36 < beli> or maybe someone has a slow internet connection and his friend can get the sources faster
23:36 < beli> that's the difference
23:36 < rxr> and we have such a source-tree lying on our mirror sites ...
23:37 < tcr> beli: that's possible of course
23:37 < beli> rxr: url please?
23:37 < daja77> beli: linux without internet sucks anyway ;)
23:37 < beli> lol
23:37 < beli> depends
23:37 < tcr> beli: you friend could download them and burn you a CD, you can use at your computer
23:37 < rxr> beli: you can get an ISO, too ..
23:37 < beli> could download them == you need to know where they are, and where to download them
23:37 < beli> if there is a single location, tell me, and it's fine
23:38 < beli> otherwise it's bullshit ;)
23:38 < tcr> beli: that's done by a script
23:39 < tcr> beli: it looks in (very abstractly thought) a database for the official location of the packages and downloads it from there
23:39 < beli> oh fine, the script collects the sources for me and puts them in one directory so i can burn them for someone else?
23:39 < tcr> beli: there's of course also a script to burn it ;)
23:39 < beli> hehe, no need
23:39 < tcr> well
23:39 < beli> ok, now everything sounds better
23:39 < tcr> it might create some directory tree the others are relying on
23:39 < tcr> or other things
23:40 < daja77> tcr: no there is no script to burn the sources
23:40 < beli> rocklinux homepage should really explain that at the intro section
23:40 < beli> daja77: we don't care
23:40 < tcr> not?! I'm quite sure there was
23:40 < daja77> beli: it's alright just wanted to mention
23:41 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux.net/mirrors.cgi?1.7-snapshot
23:41 < rxr> or use our scripts ...
23:41 < beli> fine
23:41 < daja77> I guess that the last snapshot is more broken than cvs version
23:42 < beli> where to get your scripts?
23:42 < tcr> beli: ROCK can do absolutely everything. It's just limited in your capability
23:42 < rxr> urgs
23:42 < rxr> you can read ?
23:42 < rxr> Ë
23:42 < rxr> Ë
23:42 < beli> your said or
23:42 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux.org/
23:42 < beli> but no url
23:42 < beli> oh ;)
23:42 < tcr> <tcr> bot is described at http://www.rocklinux.de/snapshots/
23:42 < rxr> The "Getting" entry in the menu on the top of the page !!!!!!!!!!!
23:42 < beli> tcr: every linux has this capability
23:43 < beli> i am using slackware linux and Owl
23:43 < daja77> no
23:43 < rxr> it isn't that difficutlt...
23:43 < daja77> you are using owl *rofl*
23:43 < owl> daja77: :PPP
23:43 < tcr> rxr: well it's quite late ;) he shall be forgiven
23:43 < beli> hehe
23:43 < rxr> tcr: ah I see ...
23:43 < beli> www.openwall.com/Owl
23:43 < esden> owl: you are being used ... isn't that nice ?
23:44 < beli> solar designer's linux distro
23:44 < owl> esden: you want a kick i guess...
23:44 < tcr> cheap slut she is
23:44 < daja77> beli: I know, it is funny anyway
23:44 < beli> harhar
23:44 < esden> tcr: opensource 
23:44 < beli> yeah, right
23:44 < daja77> tcr: boy watch your language
23:44 < tcr> esden: hah ;)
23:44 < tcr> daja77: no worry, owl knows I'm kidding
23:45 < esden> tcr: you can get her whenever you want and for frico
23:45 < daja77> tcr: at least she's not kicking you
23:45 < tcr> for frico? is this her gay slut brother?
23:45 < owl> cuz i didn't see what tcr wrote...
23:45 < daja77> hehe
23:45 < daja77> owl: you should keep it this way
23:46 * owl takes a sword and kills tcr with the sword... "die, die, die!!!" 
23:46 < beli> owl: kicking is lame ;)
23:46 < owl> beli: yep. sword is better ;)
23:46 < tcr> well, kicking in one's ball is rather painful than lame
23:46 < esden> ok gcc3 is not willing to compile with a gcc3 compiled under dietlibc ... *sigh*
23:46 < rxr> tcr: by the way: I enabled some of your packages for the dRock build ...
23:46 < beli> ignore is the most powerfull thingie on irc
23:47 < tcr> rxr: ?-)
23:47 < owl> beli: hehe. full ack.
23:47 < tcr> muha
23:47 < rxr> tcr: hm ?
23:47 < tcr> rxr: didnt get you, what packages of me?
23:48 < rxr> # some selected peaces from the tibit repository
23:48 < rxr> ctags /       { p; d; };
23:48 < rxr> dvdrip /      { p; d; };
23:48 < rxr> fvwm /        { p; d; };
23:48 < rxr> libchipcard / { p; d; };
23:48 < rxr> libdv /       { p; d; };
23:48 < rxr> libstroke /   { p; d; };
23:48 < rxr> mjpegtools /  { p; d; };
23:48 < rxr> nvrec /       { p; d; };
23:48 < rxr> openhbci /    { p; d; };
23:48 < rxr> xvid /        { p; d; };
23:48 < tcr> ignore is the function for all those suckers that are lacking on self-conciousness and dealing with unasked guest.
23:49 < tcr> and inability in dealing...
23:49 < daja77> tcr: get down
23:49 < tcr> rxr: ?? I'm not tibit
23:51 < tcr> daja77: well what? Is there something like that in real life? no, surely not. People using it just affirm me that they presumably have some psychologic problems
23:52 < tcr> well actually not psychologic, but social
23:52 < owl> a-
23:52 < daja77> tcr: you wouldn't talk like this irl, believe me
23:53 < tcr> hm?
23:53 < daja77> btw, filtering is useful in usenet, too
23:53 < tcr> I wouldn't at all talk about that irl, because it's a pathetic matter of discussion
23:54 < owl> nothing.. just commented one of your statements...
23:54 < daja77> filtering equals not to talk to someone irl
23:54 < daja77> this happens quite often
23:54 < tcr> no, it really doesnt
23:54 < beli> have you ever tried gentoo? what is main difference to rocklinux?
23:54 < tcr> now youre making it yourself just too easy
23:55 < daja77> I am awaiting your explanation
23:55 < tcr> No. Gentoo is a source based distribution, Rocklinux a distribution tool kit
23:55 < tcr> with an inlined distribution though
23:56 < tcr> daja77: you can't just press some button, and you'll never hear of someone
23:56 < tcr> and
23:56 < beli> okay
23:57 < tcr> the really meeting equality to not talking to someone would be not to answer to someone
23:57 < beli> so, rocklinux does no patching of sources like other distos, it's just a one-in-one build tool?
23:57 < beli> s/distos/distros/
23:57 < daja77> tcr: it might be harder to avoid someone but it is not impossible
23:58 < tcr> well it does... though just for the purpose that all packages are built in the big intertwined construction of rocklinux per se
23:59 < tcr> daja77: it is. Unless you are blind and deaf.
23:59 < daja77> tcr: this doesn't help you ;)
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