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00:00 < tcr> and that's what using ignore is.. it makes you blind and deaf towards one person, which fact is for sure really pathetic. And it also has always an implication of arrogance and ignorance
00:01 < daja77> tcr: no, you misunderstood this completely
00:01 < tcr> that's an assumption.. the nazis would have said it's jewish propaganda
00:02 < tcr> either undergird your statement or it's not acceptable neither valid
00:03 < daja77> tcr: the net is different than irl, there really mad people out there who deserve to be blocked
00:03 < tcr> spammers for example
00:03 < daja77> tcr: spammers and other idiots
00:04 < tcr> in irc howsoever it's absolutely useless... idiots are meant to be kicked and banned
00:04 < tcr> and not just ignored
00:04 < daja77> tcr: I cannot say much about irc but my experience in usenet let me filter some people
00:05 < tcr> I don't like the usenet anyway. And that killfilling and als that crap is of course a reason for that
00:05 < rxr> tcr: oh sorry - missread the whois info. Sorry.
00:05 < beli> ok, thank you all for the help
00:05 < beli> nice day
00:05 < daja77> the content is much better than on irc
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00:07 < tcr> irc is just like a dunghill of fun for me, nothing I either very much appreciate or like. For it fundamentally most of the same what's valid for usenet, is also valid
00:08 < daja77> you read the wrong groups
00:08 < tcr> rxr: ;) i asked you for updating moz to 1.3 and when TP2 is scheduled?
00:08 < tcr> TP3 even
00:13 < rxr> tcr: Mozilla is allready be updated ...
00:13 < rxr> the 2.0.0 aplha was scheduled for this weekend
00:14 < rxr> but since of the gnome2 update mess and lack of time it might be ready in the middle of next week.
00:14 < tcr> will it contain all the recently updated pkgs?
00:14 < rxr> jups - I'll at least do a new rebuild for it
00:15 < rxr> I already have a nearly complete build finished - but the buld was restarted many times - and many packages got rebuild several times due to all the heavy updating and fixing.
00:18 < tcr> ok, that's quite fantastic..
00:18 * tcr going sleeping now
00:18 < tcr> gn8 all
00:18 < rxr> cu
00:18 < daja77> cu tcr
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00:18 < owl> adios tcr
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01:27 < kasc> re
01:38 < rxr> hi kasc
02:06 < kasc> hi rene :)
02:06 < kasc> still working?
02:13 < rxr> jups
02:21 < rxr> n8
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12:08 < kasc> moin
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12:45 < rxr> re
13:52 < esden> good morning
13:59 < owl> moin
14:01 < ringo78> moin
14:01 < blindcoder> moin all
14:01 < owl> hi blindy, ringo78
14:01 < esden> morning owl, ringo78, blindcoder 
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14:17 < rxr> moin
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15:34 < owl> hi daja77
15:35 < daja77> hi owl, rest
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16:26 < rxr> esden: are you here ?
16:31 < owl> bbl (inlineskating)
16:59 < esden> rxr: yes I am
16:59 < esden> more or less ;-)
16:59 < daja77> hi esden
16:59 < esden> hi daja77 
17:00 < daja77> still downloading 1.7 cvs version over isdn :(
17:01 < esden> that will take some time ...
17:01 < daja77> btw, is there a script which removes old packages after an upgrade?
17:02 < esden> not that I know of
17:03 < daja77> hmmm, I should write one
17:06 < esden> so do it ;-)
17:06 < daja77> well, we'll see, could happen this week
17:29 < rxr> ah hi esden  ;-)
17:30 < rxr> I only wanted to questoin you regarding the categories of your repository - but the patch is already out ...
17:33 < esden> I wanted to fix them 
17:33 < esden> but missed it
17:33 < esden> your patch is fixing it ?
17:33 * -> esden sends now a dietlibc patch out
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17:38 < rxr> esden: jups - I hope so - but some categories might need a rethink ....
17:40 < esden> ok I will take a look at it. For now I sent a dietlibc target related stuff
17:40 * -> esden getting a shower
17:53 < esden> re
17:54 < esden> very fast reaction of clifford ... I should mark it red in a callender ;-)
17:54 < tfing> lol
17:54 < rxr> esden: jups - me wondering too. Seems to be a very active sunday.
17:54 < rxr> ;-)
17:55 < owl> rehi
17:55 < esden> rxr: seems so ;-) 
17:55 < esden> re owl 
17:56 < owl> hi esden
17:56 < esden> rxr: I bet that clifford feels bored today ... that is why he is so active ;-)
17:59 < rxr> esden: have you seen that fefe has soem assembly to speedup mad and ogg/vorbis on his homepage ;-)!
18:00 < esden> no I have not seen that ... 
18:12 < esden> rxr: can I insert more categorys for example : gui/console gui/x11 ?
18:27 < rxr> regarding the gui/* cliff and I had some discussion anyway ...
18:27 < rxr> he wants the gui/* do be used differently.
18:27 < rxr> but fell free to add what you need ;-)
18:28 < esden> I mean that i add to the [C] tag more than one gui category
18:28 < esden> is that ok ... or will it cause problems?
18:29 < esden> dependancy or so .. (it may be that I missundunderstood something)
18:34 < rxr> thats ok
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19:31 < esden> ok lcdproc packet added to esden repository
19:37 < esden> rxr: what do you think about a category application/monitoring ?
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19:49 < owl> hi dev0
19:49 < dev0> hi owl
19:52 < esden> hi dev0 
19:52 < blindcoder> g'eveninc
19:52 < esden> huhu blindcoder 
19:52 < blindcoder> hi esden
19:53 < daja77> hi blindcoder
19:53 < esden> blindcoder: your package creation script is nice. 
19:53 < blindcoder> esden: nice to hear that
19:53 < blindcoder> hi daja77
19:53 * -> esden created lcdproc package with it 
19:53 < owl> hi blindcoder
19:54 < blindcoder> hi owl
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19:58 < blindcoder> esden: good
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20:11 < tcr> moin all
20:11 < owl> hi tcr
20:11 < daja77> hi tcr
20:16 * daja77 off
20:16 < owl> bye daja77
20:16 < tcr> hmm, mission to mars..
20:19 < esden> mathilda bless you tcr
20:20 < esden> tcr: where ?
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20:20 < tcr> pro7
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20:20 < blindcoder> re
20:20 < tcr> moin blindcoder
20:21 < blindcoder> moin tcr
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20:28 < daja77> re
20:28 < daja77> hi ruddur
20:28 < ruddur> hi daja77
20:30 < ruddur> alles gut
20:30 < daja77> ja
20:30 < ruddur> that's all for me
20:30 < daja77> did I got that right, that you are from Charleroi?
20:31 < ruddur> yes
20:31 < daja77> my parents were there in their holidays, two years ago ;)
20:32 < daja77> pay Lucky Luke a visit ;)
20:33 < ruddur> ah ok
20:33 < ruddur> yes
20:35 < tcr> muhahaha
20:35 < tcr> who's watchinb mission to mars?
20:36 < ruddur> i
20:36 < daja77> have seen it twice in cinema
20:36 < ruddur> in satellite
20:36 < daja77> hehe
20:37 < daja77> well the movie was quite ok, if forget the horrible end
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20:38 < daja77> ruddur: do you speak all the three official languages?
20:39 < ruddur> no
20:39 < ruddur> only french
20:40 < daja77> and english ;)
20:41 < ruddur> yes but it's not a belgium official language
20:41 < daja77> I know, that's why I added the smiley
20:42 < ruddur> yes sorry
20:42 < daja77> no problem
20:43 < daja77> the gf from a fellow student is from belgium, so I know a bit ;)
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20:43 < daja77> hi kasc
20:43 < ruddur> hi kasc
20:54 < kasc> re
21:21 < tcr> huh... why the heck isn't his head blown up?
21:21 < daja77> why should it?
21:22 < tcr> there's no compression in kosmos
21:23 < tcr> but every being has a certain compression (mainly caused by its heart)..
21:24 < tcr> and so actually he should have got bursted in thousands parts
21:24 < daja77> wierd talk during the break, now
21:25 < tcr> one of the main tasks of every spacesuit is to guarantee balance of pressure
21:25 < tcr> cheap production ;)
21:25 < daja77> yep, but wait it is getting worse
21:26 < tcr> well the story is flippin lame anyway
21:26 < daja77> the best parts of the movies are the scenes inside the spaceship
21:28 < tcr> and you said you were twice in that movie in cinema? oh, gosh, why the hell that?
21:28 < tcr> muha, again that cheap scene ;)
21:28 < daja77> shit happens, I don't know anymore
21:29 < tcr> Well, I actually just go to the premier presentation of LOTR in cinema... all other movies aren't worth it
21:29 < daja77> *bah*
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21:35 < daja77> hi A-Tui
21:35 < owl> hi A-Tui
21:37 < A-Tui> hi all
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22:19 < esden> Error logs from default-1.7-snapshot-x86-dietlibc:
22:19 < esden> 142 builds total, 96 completed fine, 46 with errors.
22:19 < esden> looks better than I thought
22:19 < daja77> or the 46 connected in any way?
22:20 < owl> gnaaaa.. go away, esden - i had about 360 errors (and this was still stage 5... then i gave up/aborted the build)
22:21 < owl> argh. i'm blind
22:21 < daja77> indeed
22:34 < ringo78> what are the advantages of dietlibc ?
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22:34 < tsa> hi all
22:34 < daja77> hi tsa
22:34 < ringo78> hi tsa
22:35 < daja77> ringo78: mind reading http://www.fefe.de/dietlibc
22:35 < owl> hi tsa ;)
22:57 < esden> re hi all
22:58 < daja77> ringo78: have you found the information you needed?
22:58 < daja77> re hi esden
22:58 < daja77> esden: are the 46 failed packages connected in any way?
23:02 < owl> re esden
23:02 < daja77> he is sleeping
23:09 < rxr> hi tsa
23:17 < esden> daja77: yes they are ...
23:17 < esden> and I had paranoia check enabled
23:17 < esden> now I run the build once more with paranoia checks disabled
23:17 < daja77> so do I
23:17 < daja77> I thought paranoia checks were done before the build
23:18 < ringo78> daja: found it, interesting, first got to learn more from ROCK-scripts.
23:19 < daja77> ringo78: fine
23:19 < esden> daja77: no they are being also run during the biuild after every package
23:20 < daja77> esden: to check what?
23:20 < esden> daja77: some packets are failing du to coliding files ... (files contained in two packages with the same names and paths)
23:21 < esden> argh the headake will kill me >_<
23:21 < daja77> how can this happen?
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23:24 < esden> some packages have files that have the same name and path but different content ... that causes collisions
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23:25 < daja77_> maybe rock should use a directory tree like stow
23:25 < esden> what is that ?
23:26 < daja77_> http://www.gnu.org/software/stow/stow.html
23:27 < daja77_> basic idea is to keep every package in a directory for itself
23:28 < esden> but the packages that have the problems are very central ... like textutils
23:28 < esden> I do not think that it is the best thing to do 
23:28 < esden> the problems can be solved
23:29 < esden> doing bit scripting in .conf files
23:30 < esden> ok ... lcdproc package ready
23:32 < daja77_> well the stow idea isn't so bad, but of course it would be too much to change that for rock quickly
23:32 < esden> ohh ... I already added lcdemu to rock ... I nearly forgot that >_<
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23:34 < rxr> daja77_: you could create a target which does this
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23:35 < daja77_> rxr: nah, I need another target first
23:35 < rxr> which target ?
23:36 < daja77_> I need a distribution which has an rtai enabled kernel and the rtai modules preinstalled
23:38 < rxr> rtai ?
23:39 < daja77_> real time layer, http://www.rtai.org
23:40 < rxr> ah - what are you doing with it ?
23:40 < daja77_> controlling a tripod machine
23:43 < esden> hmm ... linux24 needs a hlaf eternity to compile ...
23:45 < daja77_> on what machine?
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23:58 < esden> daja77: on a Athlon thunderbird 1.2
23:58 * -> esden thinking about overclocking ...
23:58 < daja77> esden: please no
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