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--- Log opened Sun Mar 16 00:00:13 2003 --- Day changed Sun Mar 16 2003 00:00 < tcr> and that's what using ignore is.. it makes you blind and deaf towards one person, which fact is for sure really pathetic. And it also has always an implication of arrogance and ignorance 00:01 < daja77> tcr: no, you misunderstood this completely 00:01 < tcr> that's an assumption.. the nazis would have said it's jewish propaganda 00:02 < tcr> either undergird your statement or it's not acceptable neither valid 00:03 < daja77> tcr: the net is different than irl, there really mad people out there who deserve to be blocked 00:03 < tcr> spammers for example 00:03 < daja77> tcr: spammers and other idiots 00:04 < tcr> in irc howsoever it's absolutely useless... idiots are meant to be kicked and banned 00:04 < tcr> and not just ignored 00:04 < daja77> tcr: I cannot say much about irc but my experience in usenet let me filter some people 00:05 < tcr> I don't like the usenet anyway. And that killfilling and als that crap is of course a reason for that 00:05 < rxr> tcr: oh sorry - missread the whois info. Sorry. 00:05 < beli> ok, thank you all for the help 00:05 < beli> nice day 00:05 < daja77> the content is much better than on irc 00:06 -!- beli [~beli@pD9E641AA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("...and thanks for all the fish") 00:07 < tcr> irc is just like a dunghill of fun for me, nothing I either very much appreciate or like. For it fundamentally most of the same what's valid for usenet, is also valid 00:08 < daja77> you read the wrong groups 00:08 < tcr> rxr: ;) i asked you for updating moz to 1.3 and when TP2 is scheduled? 00:08 < tcr> TP3 even 00:13 < rxr> tcr: Mozilla is allready be updated ... 00:13 < rxr> the 2.0.0 aplha was scheduled for this weekend 00:14 < rxr> but since of the gnome2 update mess and lack of time it might be ready in the middle of next week. 00:14 < tcr> will it contain all the recently updated pkgs? 00:14 < rxr> jups - I'll at least do a new rebuild for it 00:15 < rxr> I already have a nearly complete build finished - but the buld was restarted many times - and many packages got rebuild several times due to all the heavy updating and fixing. 00:18 < tcr> ok, that's quite fantastic.. 00:18 * tcr going sleeping now 00:18 < tcr> gn8 all 00:18 < rxr> cu 00:18 < daja77> cu tcr 00:18 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D828.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 00:18 < owl> adios tcr 00:57 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: fronti 00:58 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: rxr 01:01 -!- Netsplit over, joins: rxr 01:02 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: vectrax, tibit_, ruddur, Mike1, Parabull, kasc, Ge0rG, th, toberkel, tfing, (+4 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 01:02 -!- daja77_ [~daja77@dialin-145-254-073-061.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:02 -!- Netsplit over, joins: ringo78, aszlig, th, vectrax 01:02 -!- daja77_ is now known as daja77 01:03 -!- fronti [kliche@zebra.fh-weingarten.de] has joined #rocklinux 01:03 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Parabull, tfing, tibit_ 01:04 -!- Netsplit over, joins: kasc, ruddur, Ge0rG, Mike1, rolla, toberkel 01:23 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-073-061.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 01:27 < kasc> re 01:38 < rxr> hi kasc 02:06 < kasc> hi rene :) 02:06 < kasc> still working? 02:13 < rxr> jups 02:21 < rxr> n8 02:21 -!- rxr [~rxr@port-212-202-173-211.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit ("leaving") 03:04 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Der Sinn des Lebens ist die Suche nach eben jenem.") 03:59 -!- tibit [~tibit@p508A8E1D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:15 -!- tibit_ [~tibit@p508AA187.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:31 -!- ruddur [~ruddur@rocklinux.ruddur.net] has quit ("[BX] BitchX is as BitchX does") 09:08 -!- ruddur [~ruddur@rocklinux.ruddur.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:43 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F475.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:31 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:08 < kasc> moin 12:45 -!- rxr [~rxr@port-212-202-173-211.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:45 < rxr> re 13:52 < esden> good morning 13:59 < owl> moin 14:01 < ringo78> moin 14:01 < blindcoder> moin all 14:01 < owl> hi blindy, ringo78 14:01 < esden> morning owl, ringo78, blindcoder 14:06 -!- ringo78 [~idiot@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has quit ("leaving") 14:07 -!- ringo30 [ringo78@xs2.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 14:07 -!- ringo30 [ringo78@xs2.xs4all.nl] has quit (Client Quit) 14:07 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9522D84.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:08 -!- ringo78 [~idiot@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has joined #rocklinux 14:17 < rxr> moin 14:31 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F475.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: blindcod1r!blindcoder@p508016F4.dip.t-dialin.net))) 14:31 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p508016F4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:34 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-074-020.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:34 < owl> hi daja77 15:35 < daja77> hi owl, rest 15:39 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("seeya") 16:26 < rxr> esden: are you here ? 16:31 < owl> bbl (inlineskating) 16:59 < esden> rxr: yes I am 16:59 < esden> more or less ;-) 16:59 < daja77> hi esden 16:59 < esden> hi daja77 17:00 < daja77> still downloading 1.7 cvs version over isdn :( 17:01 < esden> that will take some time ... 17:01 < daja77> btw, is there a script which removes old packages after an upgrade? 17:02 < esden> not that I know of 17:03 < daja77> hmmm, I should write one 17:06 < esden> so do it ;-) 17:06 < daja77> well, we'll see, could happen this week 17:29 < rxr> ah hi esden ;-) 17:30 < rxr> I only wanted to questoin you regarding the categories of your repository - but the patch is already out ... 17:33 < esden> I wanted to fix them 17:33 < esden> but missed it 17:33 < esden> your patch is fixing it ? 17:33 * -> esden sends now a dietlibc patch out 17:36 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9522D84.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 17:38 < rxr> esden: jups - I hope so - but some categories might need a rethink .... 17:40 < esden> ok I will take a look at it. For now I sent a dietlibc target related stuff 17:40 * -> esden getting a shower 17:53 < esden> re 17:54 < esden> very fast reaction of clifford ... I should mark it red in a callender ;-) 17:54 < tfing> lol 17:54 < rxr> esden: jups - me wondering too. Seems to be a very active sunday. 17:54 < rxr> ;-) 17:55 < owl> rehi 17:55 < esden> rxr: seems so ;-) 17:55 < esden> re owl 17:56 < owl> hi esden 17:56 < esden> rxr: I bet that clifford feels bored today ... that is why he is so active ;-) 17:59 < rxr> esden: have you seen that fefe has soem assembly to speedup mad and ogg/vorbis on his homepage ;-)! 18:00 < esden> no I have not seen that ... 18:12 < esden> rxr: can I insert more categorys for example : gui/console gui/x11 ? 18:27 < rxr> regarding the gui/* cliff and I had some discussion anyway ... 18:27 < rxr> he wants the gui/* do be used differently. 18:27 < rxr> but fell free to add what you need ;-) 18:28 < esden> I mean that i add to the [C] tag more than one gui category 18:28 < esden> is that ok ... or will it cause problems? 18:29 < esden> dependancy or so .. (it may be that I missundunderstood something) 18:34 < rxr> thats ok 18:37 -!- ruddur [~ruddur@rocklinux.ruddur.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19:31 < esden> ok lcdproc packet added to esden repository 19:37 < esden> rxr: what do you think about a category application/monitoring ? 19:48 -!- dev0 [~ricboe@pD953C66F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:49 < owl> hi dev0 19:49 < dev0> hi owl 19:52 < esden> hi dev0 19:52 < blindcoder> g'eveninc 19:52 < esden> huhu blindcoder 19:52 < blindcoder> hi esden 19:53 < daja77> hi blindcoder 19:53 < esden> blindcoder: your package creation script is nice. 19:53 < blindcoder> esden: nice to hear that 19:53 < blindcoder> hi daja77 19:53 * -> esden created lcdproc package with it 19:53 < owl> hi blindcoder 19:54 < blindcoder> hi owl 19:54 -!- dev0 [~ricboe@pD953C66F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 19:58 < blindcoder> esden: good 20:11 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813335.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:11 < tcr> moin all 20:11 < owl> hi tcr 20:11 < daja77> hi tcr 20:16 * daja77 off 20:16 < owl> bye daja77 20:16 < tcr> hmm, mission to mars.. 20:19 < esden> mathilda bless you tcr 20:20 < esden> tcr: where ? 20:20 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p508016F4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: blindcod1r!blindcoder@pD9E4FB53.dip.t-dialin.net))) 20:20 < tcr> pro7 20:20 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4FB53.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:20 < blindcoder> re 20:20 < tcr> moin blindcoder 20:21 < blindcoder> moin tcr 20:25 -!- ruddur [~ruddur@rocklinux.ruddur.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:28 < daja77> re 20:28 < daja77> hi ruddur 20:28 < ruddur> hi daja77 20:30 < ruddur> alles gut 20:30 < daja77> ja 20:30 < ruddur> that's all for me 20:30 < daja77> did I got that right, that you are from Charleroi? 20:31 < ruddur> yes 20:31 < daja77> my parents were there in their holidays, two years ago ;) 20:32 < daja77> pay Lucky Luke a visit ;) 20:33 < ruddur> ah ok 20:33 < ruddur> yes 20:35 < tcr> muhahaha 20:35 < tcr> who's watchinb mission to mars? 20:36 < ruddur> i 20:36 < daja77> have seen it twice in cinema 20:36 < ruddur> in satellite 20:36 < daja77> hehe 20:37 < daja77> well the movie was quite ok, if forget the horrible end 20:37 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090B51D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:38 < daja77> ruddur: do you speak all the three official languages? 20:39 < ruddur> no 20:39 < ruddur> only french 20:40 < daja77> and english ;) 20:41 < ruddur> yes but it's not a belgium official language 20:41 < daja77> I know, that's why I added the smiley 20:42 < ruddur> yes sorry 20:42 < daja77> no problem 20:43 < daja77> the gf from a fellow student is from belgium, so I know a bit ;) 20:43 -!- kasc [~kasc@p50909A41.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:43 < daja77> hi kasc 20:43 < ruddur> hi kasc 20:54 < kasc> re 21:21 < tcr> huh... why the heck isn't his head blown up? 21:21 < daja77> why should it? 21:22 < tcr> there's no compression in kosmos 21:23 < tcr> but every being has a certain compression (mainly caused by its heart).. 21:24 < tcr> and so actually he should have got bursted in thousands parts 21:24 < daja77> wierd talk during the break, now 21:25 < tcr> one of the main tasks of every spacesuit is to guarantee balance of pressure 21:25 < tcr> cheap production ;) 21:25 < daja77> yep, but wait it is getting worse 21:26 < tcr> well the story is flippin lame anyway 21:26 < daja77> the best parts of the movies are the scenes inside the spaceship 21:28 < tcr> and you said you were twice in that movie in cinema? oh, gosh, why the hell that? 21:28 < tcr> muha, again that cheap scene ;) 21:28 < daja77> shit happens, I don't know anymore 21:29 < tcr> Well, I actually just go to the premier presentation of LOTR in cinema... all other movies aren't worth it 21:29 < daja77> *bah* 21:32 -!- A-Tui [~eof@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 21:35 < daja77> hi A-Tui 21:35 < owl> hi A-Tui 21:37 < A-Tui> hi all 21:51 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813335.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 22:19 < esden> Error logs from default-1.7-snapshot-x86-dietlibc: 22:19 < esden> 142 builds total, 96 completed fine, 46 with errors. 22:19 < esden> looks better than I thought 22:19 < daja77> or the 46 connected in any way? 22:20 < owl> gnaaaa.. go away, esden - i had about 360 errors (and this was still stage 5... then i gave up/aborted the build) 22:21 < owl> argh. i'm blind 22:21 < daja77> indeed 22:34 < ringo78> what are the advantages of dietlibc ? 22:34 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082D890.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:34 < tsa> hi all 22:34 < daja77> hi tsa 22:34 < ringo78> hi tsa 22:35 < daja77> ringo78: mind reading https://www.fefe.de/dietlibc 22:35 < owl> hi tsa ;) 22:57 < esden> re hi all 22:58 < daja77> ringo78: have you found the information you needed? 22:58 < daja77> re hi esden 22:58 < daja77> esden: are the 46 failed packages connected in any way? 23:02 < owl> re esden 23:02 < daja77> he is sleeping 23:09 < rxr> hi tsa 23:17 < esden> daja77: yes they are ... 23:17 < esden> and I had paranoia check enabled 23:17 < esden> now I run the build once more with paranoia checks disabled 23:17 < daja77> so do I 23:17 < daja77> I thought paranoia checks were done before the build 23:18 < ringo78> daja: found it, interesting, first got to learn more from ROCK-scripts. 23:19 < daja77> ringo78: fine 23:19 < esden> daja77: no they are being also run during the biuild after every package 23:20 < daja77> esden: to check what? 23:20 < esden> daja77: some packets are failing du to coliding files ... (files contained in two packages with the same names and paths) 23:21 < esden> argh the headake will kill me >_< 23:21 < daja77> how can this happen? 23:22 -!- daja77_ [~daja77@dialin-145-254-077-143.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:24 -!- ruddur_ [~ruddur@rocklinux.ruddur.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:24 < esden> some packages have files that have the same name and path but different content ... that causes collisions 23:25 -!- ruddur_ [~ruddur@rocklinux.ruddur.net] has quit (Client Quit) 23:25 < daja77_> maybe rock should use a directory tree like stow 23:25 < esden> what is that ? 23:26 < daja77_> https://www.gnu.org/software/stow/stow.html 23:27 < daja77_> basic idea is to keep every package in a directory for itself 23:28 < esden> but the packages that have the problems are very central ... like textutils 23:28 < esden> I do not think that it is the best thing to do 23:28 < esden> the problems can be solved 23:29 < esden> doing bit scripting in .conf files 23:30 < esden> ok ... lcdproc package ready 23:32 < daja77_> well the stow idea isn't so bad, but of course it would be too much to change that for rock quickly 23:32 < esden> ohh ... I already added lcdemu to rock ... I nearly forgot that >_< 23:33 -!- ruddur [~ruddur@rocklinux.ruddur.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:34 < rxr> daja77_: you could create a target which does this 23:34 -!- ruddur [~ruddur@rocklinux.ruddur.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:35 < daja77_> rxr: nah, I need another target first 23:35 < rxr> which target ? 23:36 < daja77_> I need a distribution which has an rtai enabled kernel and the rtai modules preinstalled 23:38 < rxr> rtai ? 23:39 < daja77_> real time layer, https://www.rtai.org 23:40 < rxr> ah - what are you doing with it ? 23:40 < daja77_> controlling a tripod machine 23:43 < esden> hmm ... linux24 needs a hlaf eternity to compile ... 23:45 < daja77_> on what machine? 23:47 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-074-020.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23:47 -!- daja77_ is now known as daja77 23:58 < esden> daja77: on a Athlon thunderbird 1.2 23:58 * -> esden thinking about overclocking ... 23:58 < daja77> esden: please no --- Log closed Mon Mar 17 00:00:31 2003