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00:03 < ringo78> anyone running sawfish? I get this error. error--> (file-error "No such file or directory" "sawfish/wm/misc") any sugstions?
00:04 < Mike1> ringo78: Jan submited a patch to the list a few minutes ago that fix this
00:05 < ringo78> ahhhh I'll have a look, lucky me ...
00:05 < Mike1> ringo78: :)
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00:39 < daja77> gn8 you all
00:39 < Mike1> n8 daja77
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00:56 < zer0_o> =)
00:56 < zer0_o> look ...
00:57 < Mike1> hi zer0_o
00:57 < zer0_o> something fun..
00:57 < zer0_o> http://sampo.rdx.net/ledcontrol/#shots
00:58 < Mike1> nice :)
00:58 < zer0_o> *g*
01:00 < ringo78> Nice simulate kernel panic, only a screen saver with it fun ...
01:02 < zer0_o> kernel panic ?
01:02 < zer0_o> hi ringo78
01:04 < ringo78> Yehh then you dont have to crash your system you just leen back put a nice kernel panic on screen and blint the leds ;-)
01:04 < ringo78> blink sri
01:07 < ringo78> morse should be fun to .... ..   --.. . .-. -----  ---
01:08 < ringo78> I ones had a morse device /dev/morse was cool 2.
01:08 < zer0_o> *g*
01:08 < zer0_o> *gggg*
01:23 < zer0_o> ringo
01:34 < ringo78> yes ?
01:35 < zer0_o> you've got some time for me ?
01:50 < esden> weee I found it !!!
01:50 < esden> yesss!!!
01:50 < esden> re hi all so by the way
01:53 < zer0_o> hi esden
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03:24 < zer0_o> =) i have A NICe moD iNStalLED , IT DisPLAyS THE nETWOrktRAFFic on tHE keYboARD LEd's =), BUT the mAIN function OF thesE leDS IS not DIsABLED .. SO the wRIting is A litTLE BIT WEIReD ;DDD
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04:24 < zer0_o> n8 all
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08:09 < blindcoder> moin
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08:33 < kasc> moin
08:33 < blindcoder> moin kasc
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08:38 < kasc> moin blindcoder
08:39 < kasc> looks like i could start installing my current build this afternoon :)
08:41 < blindcoder> nice :)
08:41 < blindcoder> I still have some 50 packages not coompiling ad need a good part of it >_<
08:41 < kasc> aww
08:43 < blindcoder> and I don't want to mess up my tree more than it already is... *ahem*
08:43 < blindcoder> find . -name '.#*' | wc -l
08:43 < blindcoder>      250+
08:43 < blindcoder> *whistles innocently*
08:43 < kasc> i disabled most packages that wont build ;)
08:44 < blindcoder> yes but  I nee^H^H^Hwant gimp14 and all
08:44 < kasc> still 6 failed packages in stage 9 so far :(
08:44 < kasc> gimp seems to build nicely here
08:44 < blindcoder> mplayer, dosemu, sdl >_<
08:45 < kasc> i disabled dosemu in favor of bochs...
08:45 < blindcoder> hmm... haven't tried bochs yet
08:46 < kasc> unfortunately i have far too few disc space to even try to build everything
08:46 < kasc> me neither
08:46 < blindcoder> can it do sound in dos?
08:46 < kasc> just wanted to give it a chance ;)
08:46 * blindcoder looks at his disks and is ashamed
08:46 < kasc> ?
08:47 < blindcoder> 2x 80 GB (/home and /data) and 1x 30 GB (/)
08:47 < kasc> 20 GB... thats all
08:51 < blindcoder> hmm... does ROCK take up more than 5 GB during build?
08:51 < kasc> think so
08:52 < kasc> i have 3.8 gb partitions and can either build e or gnome or kde
08:52 < blindcoder> oh...
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08:53 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.rocklinux.de:/cvs co -P rock-1.5 && cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@clifford.homedns.org:/home/cvs co -P rock-src-1.7
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08:53 (Users #rocklinux)
08:53 [ _snyke    ] [ esden ] [ Mike1     ] [ ringo78] [ snyke ] 
08:53 [ aszlig    ] [ esden_] [ netrunner_] [ rolla  ] [ tfing_] 
08:53 [ blindcoder] [ huebi ] [ owl       ] [ ruddur ] [ tibit ] 
08:53 [ bluefire  ] [ kasc  ] [ Parabull_ ] [ SMP    ] 
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08:53 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Tue Jun 11 09:27:41 2002
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08:54 < kasc> that should fix my diskspace problems for a while ;)
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09:07 < kasc> wonder why packages keep breaking in stage 9 but working in 5...
09:09 < blindcoder> bad install scripts, maybe
09:09 < blindcoder> "directory already exists" and the like
09:11 < owl> moin *yawn*
09:11 < blindcoder> moin sleepy owl
09:11 < owl> hi blindcoder
09:11 < blindcoder> aren't you at work if you're still so sleepy?
09:12 < owl> i'm at work...
09:13 < kasc> one of my favorite bugs:
09:13 < kasc> mcopidl.cc: In function `void doInterfacesHeader(FILE*)':
09:13 < kasc> mcopidl.cc:1528: internal error: Illegal instruction
09:13 < kasc> Please submit a full bug report,
09:13 < kasc> with preprocessed source if appropriate.
09:13 < kasc> See <URL:http://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/bugs.html> for instructions.
09:13 < kasc> moin owl :)
09:14 < owl> hi kasc
09:16 < blindcoder> kasc: my favorite is: can't cast unsigned int from unsigned int (or something like that)
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11:29 < daja77> ?
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11:43 < owl> http://www.dau-alarm.de/pictures/docs/anfrag-001_g.jpg << *cries*
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11:54 < daja77> moin
11:55 < ringo78_> moin daja77
11:55 < daja77> hi ringo78_
11:57 < ringo78_> all_OK ?
11:58 < daja77> yeah
11:58 < ringo78_> nice to hear.
11:59 * daja77 is downloading tons of new packages for rock *grumble*
12:02 * blindcoder wants the mplayer-sources >_<
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12:02 < daja77> blindcoder: grab them :)
12:02 < blindcoder> daja77: curl: (22) The requested file was not found >_<
12:02 < blindcoder> hi Shiro-kun
12:03 < Kamui-chan> hi blind
12:03 < daja77> hi Kamui-chan
12:03 < Kamui-chan> hi daja
12:05 < Kamui-chan> Is everybody know that owl online is?
12:06 < daja77> blindcoder: ftp://ftp1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/MPlayer-0.90rc5.tar.bz2 HTH
12:09 < blindcoder> i have that one, thanks, I'm missing the following:
12:09 < blindcoder> Matched: download/miguel/mplayer/font-arial-iso-8859-1.tar.bz2
12:10 < blindcoder> Matched: download/miguel/mplayer/default.tar.bz2
12:10 < blindcoder> Matched: download/miguel/mplayer-fonts/bulgarian-font-maritza-bold-1.0.2.tar.gz
12:10 < daja77> I guess you'll have to wait until Mike1 is awake :)
12:11 * blindcoder placing a bucket of cold water at a strategically good point (right above his head)
12:11 * daja77 stubs blindcoder
12:11 < blindcoder> oops();
12:11 < blindcoder> *splash*
12:11 * blindcoder now soaking wet
12:12 * daja77 laughs loudly
12:13 < blindcoder> grmpf *walking up to daja77 and starts shaking(?) like a dog*
12:14 * daja77 kicks blindcoder
12:14 * blindcoder evades the kick and bites daja77 
12:14 * daja77 scratches blindcoder's eyeballs
12:15 * blindcoder bleeds onto daja77 armani suit
12:15 < daja77> hehe
12:16 < owl> project manager can just bug, but not read *ARGH*
12:16 * daja77 just tells everybody that he bought it that way :)
12:16 < daja77> hi owl
12:16 < owl> hi daja77
12:16 < daja77> I'm just fighting with blindcoder
12:17 < daja77> hmm, I think I should go to work now
12:18 < owl> aeah. ? i spoke about my special friend "marcel" in office... /me feels reminded to the song: metallica - free speech for the dumb ;)
12:18 < daja77> owl: you are allowed free speech here *g*
12:19 < owl> daja77: *ARGH*
12:19 < owl> don't begin speaking like my parents, please!!!!!!!!!!!
12:20 < daja77> oops
12:20 < daja77> ok I'll leave out that bavarian accent :)
12:20 < owl> *gnaaaaaaa*
12:21 < daja77> should I read this as ack
12:22 < owl> *taking sword and killing daja77 *
12:22 < blindcoder> owl: calm dawn, will you?
12:22 < blindcoder> what did this... marcel do?
12:22 < blindcoder> and put away that tooth-pick
12:22 * daja77 takes down his head and starts to laugh shakingly
12:23 < owl> blindcoder: no. i'm not in the mood to calm down.
12:23 < owl> tooth-pick?
12:23 < owl> "zahnstocher"?
12:23 < blindcoder> "Zahnstocher"
12:23 < daja77> that thing you called a sword
12:23 < owl> hm. well guessed, owl. alsoo dumb people can guess *note to self*
12:24 < blindcoder> Note to self: Don't write any more Notes to self.
12:24 < daja77> blindcoder: you already have such a note *g*
12:25 < blindcoder> daja77: you're spoiling the pun there....
12:25 < owl> blindcoder: "multiple persoenlichkeiten" are well... might i could kick my parents without being "inhaftiert"
12:25 < daja77> *gggg*
12:25 < blindcoder> owl: hehe. now, back to that marcel...
12:26 < daja77> owl: kicking is not forbidden if they keep alive
12:26 < daja77> blindcoder: need a new friend
12:27 < blindcoder> daja77: ?
12:27 < daja77> owl: inhaftiert -> arrested
12:27 < owl> blindcoder: marcel always asks if this and another and 10000 other features are already included in the product... but it's written down in the "release notes"
12:27 < daja77> blindcoder: cos you're so keen to get news about that marcel
12:28 < blindcoder> daja77: no, I'm through with having a relationship with humans.
12:29 < daja77> hehe, you fell in love with computers I guess
12:29 < blindcoder> owl: hmm..the pint it out on 100 post-its and post them to his monitor so that he has a nice puzzle
12:29 < daja77> owl: so he is just an ordinary luser
12:29 < blindcoder> daja77: with 4 2GHz HT-Processors and 4GB of RAM, to be exact
12:30 < daja77> blindcoder: nice relationship
12:30 < owl> blindcoder: to read something, you should be able to read
12:30 < blindcoder> nice and healthy, and best of all: neither betrays nor insults or disappoints you
12:30 < blindcoder> owl: vocoder?
12:30 < daja77> but it might be broken
12:31 < blindcoder> daja77: then you can fix it easily
12:31 < daja77> owl: if he cannot read what is he doin there?
12:31 < blindcoder> just take a screwdriver and a few spare-parts
12:31 < blindcoder> brb... tele
12:32 * daja77 now know at least two people who prefer a relationship to computers over that to humans
12:32 < owl> daja77: he is a _project manager_ you just need to talk!
12:32 < daja77> lol
12:33 < daja77> owl: try to get a project manager then, life can be so easy
12:33 < daja77> to become even
12:35 < daja77> it is nice talking to you, but I'll have to leave for going to work now
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12:35 < daja77> bye
12:35 < ]ToYmAcHiNe[> hi all
12:35 < ]ToYmAcHiNe[> ow
12:36 < owl> hi ]ToYmAcHiNe[
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12:36 < ]ToYmAcHiNe[> ow
12:36 -!- ]ToYmAcHiNe[ is now known as zer0_o
12:36 < zer0_o> =))
12:36 < zer0_o> hi all
12:37 < owl> hi zer0_o
12:37 < zer0_o> =)
12:37 < owl> strange name... ;P
12:39 < zer0_o> its my friends gameplaynick
12:41 < owl> game... omg
12:42 < zer0_o> what's about it ?
12:43 < owl> nothing...
12:49 < zer0_o> how can i mount a freebsd partition in linux?? i tryed , but theres a bad superblock..
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13:14 < ringo78_> any sugs how to setup nvidia drivers ?
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13:59 < fake> re
13:59 < owl> hi fake
14:00 < fake> hi owl
14:00 < owl> how are you?
14:02 < fake> oh, okay, i assume
14:03 < fake> how b
14:03 < fake> about you?
14:03 * fake at school currently
14:04 < owl> alive. i guess.
14:04 < owl> ah so... wednesday... are you enjoying the interesting lessons? ;)
14:06 < fake> you're gonna enjoy the trip to the clinic here
14:06 < fake> it was pretty interesting (dreaming of that symmetrix...)
14:07 < owl> we were there yesterday, too.
14:07 < fake> oh... who showed you the server room?
14:08 < fake> alex said it was his first show
14:08 < fake> s,show,tour,
14:08 < owl> dunno the guy's name
14:08 < fake> was he blonde?
14:09 < owl> nope. he had brown hair (short), about 1.80 m large...
14:09 < fake> oh. timo kliemchen, by chance?
14:10 < owl> i really dunno... i just know that he is the "linux freak" at "klinikum"
14:10 < fake> oh, so it wasn't klimo ;)
14:10 < fake> pretty M$ified
14:10 < fake> but that AS/400 is sw33t
14:11 < blindcoder> the description might really be klimo
14:12 < owl> hm. imho the most of the PCs were cool... or the compaq workstations... *dreaming*
14:12 < fake> naaah
14:12 < fake> the HP NetServer LE's are lusy
14:13 < fake> better desktop-pcs
14:13 < fake> lousy
14:13 < fake> the dell boxen look good, but i never 'used' one
14:13 < fake> i'd choose the symmetrix and the as/400
14:14 < owl> yeah. and the "schande" is that the most boxes are abused ... with win on it... *cries*
14:14 < fake> (including l33t z3r14l t3rm1n4l)
14:15 < owl> *g* fake - you're also dreaming, aren't you?
14:16 * blindcoder starting /usr/src/rock-src/scripts/Config on fake serial console
14:51 < kasc> bbl (installing)
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15:07 < rolla> re
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15:16 < tcr> moin all
15:20 < blindcoder> moin moin
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15:24 < kasc> re
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16:44 < Mike1> Good day all
16:49 < rolla> re mike
16:49 < rolla> where is the iso?
16:49 < Mike1> lol
16:49 < Mike1> i am good thx
16:49 < Mike1> :P
16:50 < Mike1> rolla: my dump ass removed the build dir after it finished, but another build is in progress, so the iso will be ready this afternoon i hope
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17:14 < esden_> hello all
17:15 -!- You're now known as esden
17:18 < Mike1> God bless you MPET
17:24 < esden> bless you Mike1 
17:24 < Mike1> :)
17:28 < esden> wee cvs forwarding seems to work now ... god bless you
17:28 < Mike1> :)
17:48 < rolla> esden: do you use german layout keyboard or american?
17:50 < tcr> Hmm.. why?
17:52 < rolla> trying to setup a german layouy
17:52 < esden> rolla: I use dvorak layout
17:52 < rolla> crap
17:52 < esden> links rulez! I have to say that everytime I use it
17:53 < tcr> rolla: I do use it...
17:58 < rolla> tcr do you use gnome2?
17:59 < tcr> Nope
17:59 < rolla> dang
18:00 < tcr> Wouldn't it be best to just tell where you problem actually is rather than swearing here around? ;)
18:00 < rolla> ;)
18:01 < rolla> I am trying to use xmodmap to show german chars and I get nothing in the gnoem terms but in icq they show up fine
18:01 < tcr> What about xterm?
18:01 < rolla> I have even tried just using german layout in X and it does not work either
18:05 < tcr> Does it work in xterm?
18:06 < rolla> fuball
18:06 < rolla> tcr yes
18:06 < rolla> it use to work
18:06 < rolla> beofre I reload my box
18:06 < tcr> rolla: Hmm... But that gnome thingie doesnt?
18:07 < rolla> yes
18:07 < rolla> very odd
18:07 < rolla> I cannot find any reason why either
18:07 < rolla> it just shows a blank space where the char should be
18:07 < rolla> 
18:07 < rolla> see
18:07 < tcr> Well.. You could try to use *VT100.Translations in the Xdefaults file
18:08 < tcr> I guess the gnome terminal is also based on the vt100 widget
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18:08 < rolla> yes
18:09 < tcr> Well, but isn't ther some gnome specific conf tool to manage that?
18:09 < rolla> I ran gnome2 before and it was fine. I am looking at the terminal setupright now
18:09 < rolla> not that I know of
18:09 < rolla> 
18:09 < Mike1> tsts
18:10 < tcr> *VT100.Translations: #ovverride <KeyPress>BackSpace: string(0x7f)\n
18:11 < tcr> that would for instance assign the backspace key the char with the code 127
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18:12 < tcr> You should inquire google on that though..
18:12 < rolla> yeah I am looking there
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18:29 < esden> ok ... big mail sent to the dietlibc mailinglist
18:30 * daja77 is back (gone 05:54:28)
18:31 < daja77> hi esden
18:31 < esden> hi daja77 
18:31 < daja77> hi everybody :)
18:32 < tcr> moin
18:32 * daja77 adjusts his hate level to normal
18:32 < daja77> hi tcr :)
18:32 < rolla> re daja77
18:33 < Mike1> hi danein77
18:33 < Mike1> :)
18:33 < daja77> Mike1: drunk?
18:33 < tcr> What has been so hateable?
18:33 < Mike1> nah bored
18:33 < Mike1> how are you Daniel?
18:33 < daja77> ok
18:33 < daja77> tcr: RedHat
18:33 < tcr> Yes?
18:34 < daja77> oh yes
18:34 < rolla> daja77: what has redhat done to you ?
18:34 < Mike1> rolla: the same tha drock did to you
18:34 < tcr> I actually wanted to encourage you to add some information to underline that statement ;)
18:34 < daja77> their installer is crap
18:34 < rolla> :)
18:34 < daja77> I had a read error on disc 2 package postfix
18:35 < daja77> any reasonable installer would just go on, but this one crashes and leaves a messed up box behind it
18:35 < rolla> daja77: well they feel that if all packages cannot be install the system shoudl not finish
18:36 < rolla> there is some logic in it
18:36 < daja77> well of course a system without postfix will be doomed *lol*
18:37 < rolla> well trying to keep a list of all packages they need to fail on would be alot of work and sometimes be wrong
18:37 < tcr> daja77: That might be "just" a bug and not intended
18:37 < rolla> better to fail on all
18:37 < rolla> tcr true
18:37 < rolla> but bad media is bad media
18:37 < rolla> like CNN :)
18:37 < tcr> heh
18:37 < daja77> rolla: they did failed to install all
18:37 < tcr> daja77 is doing evilest FUD!
18:37 < daja77> spotted a RedHat fan :P
18:38 < daja77> tcr: this is intended, they show a python trace to explain
18:38 < rolla> daja77: who?
18:39 * daja77 is strangely looking at tcr
18:40 * tcr points to daja77 and hoarsely coughs propagator
18:40 < daja77> the worst thing is that I'm now doing a network install, this machine has a broken nic, that means net install with modem speed
18:41 < daja77> tcr: I liked RedHat two or three years ago
18:42 < tcr> I meant you're spreading falsehoods about other people
18:43 < tcr> I've never used redhat within my short lifetime
18:43 < daja77> omg, I said something wrong about tcr, how could I *g*
18:43 < daja77> ok then tell us about your sin(s)?
18:45 < daja77> only about those connected to computers plz :)
18:46 < tcr> Hmm.. I'm not aware of any really sins other than that I used to be completely stupid ;)
18:46 < daja77> as a baby this is ok
18:47 < tcr> That time is far beyond unfortuntely
18:47 < daja77> have you used w*d*ws?
18:48 < tcr> I'm still using it in a certain angle of view
18:48 < daja77> huh?
18:49 < tcr> Do not let's talk about that ;)
18:50 < blindcoder> no, i never abused widows
18:50 < daja77> abusing it is the most fun at all :)
18:51 * daja77 is silently screaming
18:53 < rolla> hmm time for a new version of gnome
18:53 < daja77> hehe, you are a masochist
18:53 < rolla> still better than KDE
18:53 < daja77> slightly
18:54 < rolla> what do you use?
18:54 < Mike1> rolla: he obviously is into kde
18:54 < Mike1> :)
18:54 * daja77 throws a stinking egg after Mike1
18:54 < Mike1> arrgg
18:55 < daja77> rolla: if I am lazy I use Gnome, otherwise I like blackbox
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19:01 < daja77> tcr: how are your projects going?
19:02 < tcr> Well I wrote the last quiz for this quartial, so I'm today back to coding since the last week...
19:03 < tcr> Only have to gather some information about a __builtin_setjmp() in gcc
19:04 < daja77> why?
19:04 < tcr> setjmp() is quite ressources intensive
19:04 < daja77> what do you need it for?
19:06 < tcr> My whole lib is based upon setjmp and longjmp, and does actually just easy the use of it
19:06 < daja77> does it link against dietlibc?
19:07 < tcr> No. it should keep somewhat ISOC compatible
19:07 < daja77> but you would gain more performance with it
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19:11 < jasonmaier> he all
19:11 < daja77> hi jasonmaier
19:12 < tcr> Well, daja77.. I doubt dietlibc is any better on that particular things.. But nevertheless my lib should actually be linkable with dietclib
19:12 < daja77> you are talking about the exception lib, right?
19:16 < tcr> yeah
19:17 < tcr> with a rewrite of the burning programm I once wrote with a swede I will start next week
19:17 < daja77> maya or so?
19:18 < tcr> magma
19:18 < daja77> ah yes :)
19:20 < tcr> esden: ping?
19:32 * daja77 is making isos from last week's build
19:34 < esden> tcr: ?
19:38 < tcr> esden: Hmm, I can't find the default key for searching with the last typed string again in pinfo? (IIRC you're the maintainer of it, so you might know it)
19:38 < Mike1> re all
19:38 < Mike1> hi jasonmaier
19:39 < daja77> re Mike1
19:40 < rolla> re
19:41 * tcr brb
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19:41 < daja77> does anyone how I can create bootdisks from a CVS build?
19:41 < Mike1> daja77: ./scripts -cfg install
19:42 < Mike1> select boot-disks target
19:42 < Mike1> and build it
19:42 < daja77> Mike1: nope, I just got isos, I need a boot floppy
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19:43 < Mike1> daja77: ah... no sorry :(
19:48 < esden>  tcr sorry but I do not know that 
19:50 < daja77> I found it *jumping around*
19:53 < owl> re
19:54 < daja77> re hi owl
19:54 < tcr> Why isn't there an option to choose between bzip2 and gzip? Or is that possible in 1.7?
19:56 < Mike1> tcr: have you ever seen rock linux using tar.gz packages in stead of tar.bz2 or .gem?
19:57 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder
19:57 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
19:58 < owl> hi blindcoder
19:58 < tcr> Mike1: unfortunately not :-/
19:58 < owl> tel
19:58 < blindcoder> nothing like a shower after sport :)
19:58 < Mike1> tcr: well simply, we don't use tar.gz's
19:58 < Mike1> tcr: anyways why would you wanna use tar.gz's and not tar.bz2?
19:59 < tcr> Mike1: because gz really beats up bz2 on slow machines
20:00 < Mike1> tcr: use .gem :)
20:00 < tcr> Well, when I'm back at rock hacking I'll implement that myself
20:00 < tcr> .gem uses its own compression algorithm?
20:01 < Mike1> :)
20:11 < daja77> the floppy image is not bootable :(
20:15 * daja77 hates computers that cannot boot from CD
20:23 * tcr is looking at gcc sources...
20:23 < daja77> you are brave
20:24 < owl> some men are like dogs *grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr*
20:24 < daja77> owl: please enlighten us
20:25 < owl> <-- talking to some someone on the telephone
20:25 < daja77> barking, hehe
20:26 < owl> hm....
20:27 * daja77 imagines a barking owl *lol*
20:27 < owl> grrrr
20:28 < daja77> wuff
20:29 * Mike1 feeling like a dog .... in heat ...
20:29 < Mike1> *g
20:29 < daja77> do not bark at owl :)
20:30 < rolla> it has some weird dirs
20:31 < daja77> ?
20:31 < owl> hi Mike1
20:31 < Mike1> yo owl.
20:32 < daja77> *gnaaaa*
20:32 < daja77> rolla: what did you mean?
20:33 < rolla> nothing
20:33 < daja77> *g*
20:38 < tcr> Hmm... dang! What holy crap! everything looks ok, but __builtin_longjmp() restricts that the value that's passed to __builtin_setjmp _must_ be 1... And I'm currently passing the exception type via that value..
20:46 < daja77> ping esden
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20:58 < demian> hi
20:58 < owl> hi demian
21:00 < demian> hola owl
21:00 < daja77> hi demian
21:00 < demian> ;-) daja77
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21:23 < Mike1> owl!
21:23 < owl> Mike1: ?
21:23 < Mike1> *HUG*
21:23 < Mike1> ;-)
21:25 < daja77_> ?
21:25 -!- rxr [~rxr@port-212-202-173-211.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux
21:25 < rxr> he
21:25 < daja77_> hi rxr
21:25 < Mike1> daja77?
21:25 < Mike1> hi Ren
21:25 < owl> hi rxr
21:25 < daja77_> ich war kurz weg, mom
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21:26 < daja77> *puh* re
21:26 < daja77> brb phone
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21:33 < A-Tui> hi
21:33 < Mike1> Aitor :)
21:33 < daja77> hi A-Tui
21:33 < A-Tui> hola a tod*s
21:33 < demian> hi A-Tui
21:34 < Mike1> d3bian!
21:34 < A-Tui> XD
21:34 < demian> Mike1
21:34 < Mike1> wie gehts?
21:34 < demian> danke, gut
21:35 < demian> und dir ?
21:35 < Mike1> gut auch :)
21:35 < demian> kewl
21:35 < A-Tui> Mike1: do you speak german?
21:36 < tcr> he just pretens to do to impress you A-Tui
21:36 < A-Tui> ahhhh XD
21:36 < Mike1> A-Tui: a little bit :)
21:37 < Mike1> A-Tui: i am taking classes
21:37 < A-Tui> it's a pretty language
21:37 < Mike1> tcr: i have no need to impress anyone here or anywhere.
21:37 < demian> i parle espagnol auch
21:37 < daja77> heh, the spanish guys talking german
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21:37 * daja77 watches silently
21:38 < A-Tui> im trying to learn esperanto
21:38 < tcr> Mike1: Yeh, that was more or less a joke ;)
21:38 < Mike1> tcr: sure.
21:38 < tcr> ok then.
21:41 < rxr> hi Mike1
21:45 < daja77> hmm, there is stated in the Rock Linux Guide: The floppy images are in rock-base-<version>/<arch>-floppies
21:45 < daja77> but there is no such dir
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21:56 < tcr> gn8 all
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22:04 < Mike1> daja77: ROCK Linux Guide is not for 1.7
22:08 < demian> cya
22:09 < daja77> bye demian
22:09 < A-Tui> adios demian
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22:23 < daja77> ping blindcoder
22:29 < esden> interesting ... why I get the error and the guy not ... 
22:29 < esden> hmm
22:30 < daja77> hi esden
22:30 < esden> hi daja77 
22:30 * -> esden has no beer >_<
22:30 < rxr> hi esden
22:30 < esden> hi rxr 
22:30 * Mike1 laughs 
22:31 * rxr boots into the dRock-2.0-alpha ISO - see you soon
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22:31 * -> esden could brew some erlgrey
22:31 < daja77> I was searching for bootable floppy images for my CVS build, but Mike told your Guide is outdated
22:31 < Mike1> daja77: for 1.7 read Documentation/*
22:31 < Mike1> daja77: specially Documentation/Developers/HACKING-HOWTO
22:32 < esden> daja77: whoose guide ?
22:32 < daja77> yours
22:32 * -> esden is not pjotr /me is piotr
22:32 < daja77> huh?
22:32 < esden> which guide do you mean ?
22:32 < Mike1> daja77: Pjort Prins != Piotr Esden-Tempski
22:33 < Mike1> esden: yeah esden he mean PJ's
22:33 < daja77> ok sorry
22:33 < Mike1> Pjotr even :
22:33 < Mike1> :)
22:33 < esden> good ... people are very often make this mistake ;-)
22:34 * -> esden is not a millionair ... he is ;-)
22:34 < Mike1> esden: why do you think we can you esden ? :)
22:34 < esden> ?
22:35 < Mike1> esden: nevermind
22:35 < esden> explain ...
22:36 < esden> ahh the night air smells soo good !
22:36 * -> esden loves that smell
22:36 < Mike1> :)
22:37 < daja77> Mike1: you mean  should read the FIXME entries :)
22:37 < esden> I think that has something to do with the trees that are outside my window
22:37 < daja77> I even
22:37 < Mike1> daja77: hehe blame Clifford for those entries no me
22:37 < daja77> I do not blame you, you just told me to read it :)
22:38 < Mike1> :)
22:38 < daja77> I remember why I confused the two
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22:43 < rxr> hi
22:43 < rxr> hm gas_gui core dumps ...
22:43 < rxr> :-(
22:43 < Mike1> wb rxr
22:43 < Mike1> mm..
22:45 < rxr> I'm just retry with the latest versin - the build included 0.6
22:45 < rxr> actual is 0.7 - so maybe this helps
22:45 < rxr> otherwise I start gdb
22:45 < rxr> but I now also rebuild some other failed packages
22:45 < Mike1> arrgg so no alpha avalable yet
22:46 < rxr> mayber later this night
22:46 < Mike1> k.
22:46 < rxr> when we have no luck (in the case the mine's 0.7 gasgui also core-dumps) tomorrow ...
22:47 * daja77 sings: how many stages must a man walk down, before he can hold up a rock...
22:49 < esden> daja77: would you like to create a release tune for 2.0  ? ;-)
22:49 < daja77> the tune is already there, maybe I should add some text :)
22:50 < esden> yes that would be fine ... send the url where we can get the mp3 ;-)
22:50 < daja77> No, I can't sing
22:51 < daja77> wait, maybe I'll find someone to sing it, for the ogg ;)
22:52 < esden> yes ogg 
22:52 * daja77 likes the ogg files very much
22:52 * -> esden is still fixed on mp3
22:53 < daja77> well the songs I download are mp3, but my samples I do with ogg, it's faster and better
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23:08 < isabel> exit
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23:08 < daja77> who was that?
23:09 < Mike1> don't know
23:10 < ringo78_> Isabel Grieshaber
23:10 < Mike1> daja77: jasonmaier's girl
23:12 < daja77> ah ok, haven't read her, that puzzled me a bit :)
23:13 < Mike1> yeah its the first time she shows up
23:14 < daja77> well the build is doin fine, and I'll go to bed now :)
23:15 < ringo78_> n8 daja77
23:15 < daja77> cu ringo78_, haven't noticed you around :)
23:16 < Mike1> daja77: ringo78_ is one of the shy guys here :)
23:16 < Mike1> daja77: n8 :)
23:16 < daja77> n8 and nice rest of the day
23:16 < Mike1> *g
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23:32 < esden> urgh ... it seems that the why gcc3 is not compiling in stage2 is my stupidity >_<
23:32 < esden> GRRR
23:32 < Mike1> esden: explain ..
23:33 < esden> I forgot to set some switches ...
23:33 < esden> -D_BSD_SOURCE
23:33 * -> esden was to lazy to look deeper into the problem >_<
23:34 * -> esden hits himself
23:35 < rxr> esden: you are on dietlibc ?
23:36 < Mike1> rxr yeah he is
23:36 < A-Tui> bye bye guys, cu!
23:37 < Mike1> bye A-Tui
23:37 < rxr> esden: have you already some results about size/speed compared to glibc ?
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23:37 < esden> rxr: nope ... I did not care much about it ...
23:38 < Mike1> esden: 0_o why not?
23:38 < esden> but I wrote to the dietlibc malinglist that it would be nice if they make tho dynamic linker usable ... ;-)
23:38 < Mike1> :)
23:38 < rxr> indeed that would be great
23:38 < rxr> has anyone replied ?
23:39 < esden> rxr: have you and clifford considered using in gcc3 instead of "make all" "make bootstrap" that would inticate better if the compiler is usable ... because a compiler that can not compile itself is not usable ...
23:39 < esden> that would make us realize that the compiler has problems earlier ...
23:40 < esden> rxr: noone has answered on this particular issue
23:43 < rxr> :-( I guess the dietlib hacker do not like dynamic linking ...
23:43 < rxr> esden: make bootstrap would double (or so) the time of a gcc compile
23:43 < rxr> a) you will notice with the next package build
23:43 < rxr> b) we "bootstrap" ourself in the next build stage ... ;-)
23:44 < esden> yes that is true ... 
23:44 < esden> you are right
23:44 < esden> stupid suggestion ...
23:45 < Mike1> the only stupid sugestion is the one that is not made
23:45 < esden> rxr: I do not wander ... dietlibc is beeing used mostly for very small projects ... and including dynamic linking makes everything slightly bigger
23:45 < esden> and makes _small_ projects bigger
23:46 < rxr> jups
23:46 < esden> that is why they do not care much about dynamic linking ;-)
23:46 < rxr> I gues the diet hacker simply wait for s.o. that implements the dl ... if they do not need/want it ...
23:46 < rxr> ack
23:47 < esden> rxr: would you like to implement it ? ;-)
23:47 < Mike1> *ggg*
23:47 * -> esden is still too stupid for such thing ... 
23:50 < Mike1> n8 all
23:51 < ringo78_> n8 Mike1
23:51 * -> esden is missing an option in rock
23:51 < esden> n8 Mike1 
23:51 < Mike1> cu :)
23:52 < esden> an option that you ar beeing asked after a package failure if you whish to continue or abort
23:52 < esden> would be very usefull
23:55 < rxr> esden: no
23:55 < rxr> esden: simply select build after package fali
23:55 < rxr> fail
23:56 < rxr> you can restart it then if you like ...
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