--- Log opened Sat Mar 29 00:00:34 2003
--- Day changed Sat Mar 29 2003
00:01 < daja77> gn8 you all
00:03 < Mike1> n8 daja77
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00:14 < esden> re hi all
00:15 < Mike1> re esdy :)
00:22 < esden> ok ... -> sleep
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00:35 < A-Tui> Puzzle script is avaible on ROCK 1.7?
00:45 < rxr> There is no Puzzle needed anymore ...
00:47 < A-Tui> thanks, that is what i think, but a read it from HACKING-HOWTO
00:48 < rxr> urgs
00:49 < rxr> 33http://www.rocklinux.org/projects/drock/2.0.0.html
00:49 < rxr> s/33//
00:49 < rxr> documentation is on the TODO listed in the errata section on the site
00:49 < A-Tui> aha, well at the moment i translated it too
00:50 < A-Tui> when i received a new version of doc, fix the changes in the translations too
00:51 < A-Tui> received == receive
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01:49 < Mike1> jasonmaier.
01:57 < A-Tui> Mike1: are you reading?
01:57 < Mike1> yeah.
01:57 < A-Tui> you think i must translate snapshot?
01:58 < A-Tui> or i let it as snapshot?
01:59 < jasonmaier> jep its me
02:00 < Mike1> snapshot is just fine
02:00 < A-Tui> ok
02:00 < Mike1> jasonmaier: http://www.hack-solutions.com/~mike2/ROCK/1.7/
02:00 < jasonmaier> Mike1: ready with the iso?
02:00 < jasonmaier> ok wow thx
02:00 < Mike1> jasonmaier: i am fast :)
02:00 < jasonmaier> faster than hell!
02:01 < Mike1> yeah 1/2 a bit
02:01 < Mike1> new one will come on monday
02:02 < jasonmaier> whats this one about?
02:02 < Mike1> jasonmaier: router, but the monday one will be more debugged and improved
02:03 < Mike1> jasonmaier: BTW Clifford included my router target to the official tree :)
02:03 < jasonmaier> wow so i can build my own router target on miguels router iso
02:04 < jasonmaier> ??
02:04 < jasonmaier> got the iso already
02:04 < jasonmaier> nearly
02:05 < jasonmaier> thx a lot
02:06 < Mike1> jasonmaier: yeah the connection is also fast :)
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07:01 < Mike1> *yawn*
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10:31 < wosch> Hi
10:33 < rxr> hi wosch
10:34 < wosch> Just nosing around while dl'ing an iso for 1.6.0 to see whats inside
10:36 < rxr> hm - the 1.6.0 files do not seem to be the best choice ...
10:37 < wosch> why?
10:37 < rxr> I suggest the mailing-list archive to the read the various discussions about wha the stable tree was not stableized and why 1.7 is more stable than 1.6.x ...
10:37 < wosch> oops... ok, i will have a look
10:38 < rxr> wait for my 2.0.0-alpha iso i'll release today
10:38 < rxr> It should be more usefull ... :-(
10:38 < wosch> so an alpha is more stable than an iso marked stable... :)
10:38 < rxr> maybe we should configure a rebot that answers this as soon as a 1.6 is in the channel ...
10:39 * wosch snickers amusedly.
10:39 < rxr> There is a 1.6.0 release? The last time there was on ly some -rcX ...
10:39 < rxr> talk to the 1.6.x maintainer on this ...
10:39 < wosch> 'yes, i meant the release candidate 3
10:39 < rxr> ah yes
10:40 < rxr> I guess the -rc3 has the quality of my 2.0.0-Technology-Preview2 ....
10:40 < rxr> s/I guess t/T/ ...
10:40 < wosch> I will finish the dl anyway and have a look. I'm planning a new home server which doesn't even have any hardware yet.
10:41 < rxr> simply scroll thought the mailing list
10:41 < wosch> 'I don't know which distribution it will be this time, i am only absolutely sure that it won't be suse again
10:42 < rxr> ;-) This is how I came to ROCK Linux three or four years ago ...
10:42 < wosch> i heard a small speech about rock last month from a local user group. sounded interesting.
10:44 < wosch> btw, bit offtopic, you know where i can get some good recommendations for suitable hardware? I've some weird preferences there...
10:45 < rxr> feel free to ask here ;-)
10:45 < wosch> ok :)
10:46 < wosch> I wanna build the PC from scratch. I rather prefer low-power over speed, but also want many PCI slots. So far, it seems these two wishes stand against each other...
10:47 < wosch> 'I look for a mobo that includes vga, lan & sound. lan & sound must of course work on linux, vga ist not a big prolem since there will be only an emergency text-mode monitor.
10:48 < wosch> intel d845gebv2 or FuSi D1526 look promising, but are a bit power hungry...
10:50 < rxr> hm the many pci slots are a problem
10:50 < rxr> otherwise I would recommend via cpus ...
10:50 < rxr> but with many pci slots ... :-(
10:50 < wosch> yes, as soon as you look for low power, you can be happy if you get one of those pci...
10:52 < wosch> i need at least a slot for: secondary NIC for DSL Modem, ISDN and later WLAN (using hostap software), three already... and i wanted some spare, you never know...
10:52 < rxr> maybe there are some via bassed boards with more pci slots ... how many slots did the crusoe development kit had ?!? ;-)
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10:54 < kasc> moin
10:54 < rxr> hi kasc
10:54 < wosch> hi
10:55 < kasc> umm... bbl
10:55 < kasc> lets see if my latest build works
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10:57 < wosch> anyway, have a nice day. gotta idle for a while. There's a life to do...
10:57 < rxr> cu
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11:03 < kasc> forgot to actually build the kernel :/
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11:34 < kasc> re
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11:36 < daja77> moin
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12:01 < _HulK_> hi there
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12:12 < rxr> hi _HulK_
12:12 < _HulK_> what could i do when a package gets me cksum-err?
12:13 < _HulK_> i'm downloadin all
12:13 < _HulK_> ROCK-1.7
12:15 < rxr> hm which package ?
12:16 < _HulK_> arts
12:16 < _HulK_> mozilla
12:16 < rxr> if you are sure that the file is ok (redownload?) simply rename the file to not have the cksum-err extension
12:16 < rxr> and send a mail to the list ...
12:16 < _HulK_> i'm dowloadin to my remote server
12:17 < _HulK_> ok
12:17 < _HulK_> i'll do it
12:18 < _HulK_> then, how could i continue downloading?
12:18 < _HulK_> renaming the package will make cksum again?
12:19 < rxr> how to contiune downloading ?
12:19 < rxr> the scripts/Download downloads all packages no matter if one has a chksum error or not ...
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12:20 < _HulK_> doesn't ocurs with me
12:20 < rxr> no ./scripts/Create-CkSumPatch will create a patch containing the new chksum
12:20 < _HulK_> it stops
12:20 < wosch_> re
12:20 < _HulK_> hi
12:21 < _HulK_> Downloading download/base/gettext/gettext-0.11.5.tar.gz ...
12:21 < _HulK_> INFO: Found cached mirror URL in src/Download-Mirror:
12:21 < _HulK_> INFO: http://ftp.leo.org/pub/comp/os/unix/linux/ROCKlinux/ROCK-1.7
12:21 < _HulK_> INFO: To force a new mirror auto-detection, remove src/Download-Mirror.
12:21 < _HulK_> ######################################################################## 100.0%
12:21 < _HulK_> Finished downloading 2549040 bytes in 6.771 seconds (376464.333 bytes/sec).
12:21 < _HulK_> cksum-test (bzip2): download/base/gettext/gettext-0.11.5.tar.bz2
12:22 < _HulK_> then if cksum fails it stops
12:22 < rxr> hm
12:22 < _HulK_> not with this package
12:22 < _HulK_> :)
12:22 < rxr> I would have to take a look - this might be a bug - it is not intended to stop
12:22 < _HulK_> i've done amirror of ROCK1.7 from ftp.leo.og
12:23 < _HulK_> and now i'm trying to download all again
12:23 < _HulK_> so i will report if it fails again
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12:33 < wosch_> umh... i've been warned, but... is the 1.6 iso really supposed to come without any fdisk?
12:36 < wosch_> there's a drock-2.0-00-Technology-Preview2_cd1.iso on iso.rocklinux.de ... any good?
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13:21 < tcr> moin all
13:28 < ringo78_> hi tcr
13:28 < tcr> moin ringo
13:30 < ringo78_> I have tryed a couple of time to build rock wich ne do you recomend ? Amd athlon 2400?
13:30 < tcr> ne?
13:31 < ringo78_> I know there is 1.5.0 1.6.0 1.70 but which shall I choose ?
13:32 < tcr> 1.7
13:33 < ringo78_> ok I'll have a go ... See where the journy ends ;-).
13:39 < wosch> there's a drock-2.0-00-Technology-Preview2_cd1.iso on iso.rocklinux.de ... any good?
13:40 < tcr> wosch: -TP3 is going to come... bug rxr on that, he actually wanted to finish that a week ago or so
13:41 < wosch> ah, so maby this is what he meant this morning when he said he wants to put up a new iso today...
13:42 < tcr> Hm, probably
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13:48 < tcr> moin tfing
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13:51 < tcr> moin hannes
13:51 < hannes__> hi
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14:10 < o1k> 
14:10 < o1k> sri ...
14:11 < tcr> hrrrm, thou shalt not do that
14:12 < o1k> I am usng xterm trying to compile rxvt but failed... then irssi works normal again sri.
14:13 < tcr> OK ;)
14:13 < rxr> hi
14:13 < rxr> wosch: the TP2 is mostly ok
14:13 < rxr> aplha ISO will be online today (it if passes some basic tests)
14:14 < rxr> for errata and todo:
14:14 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux.org/projects/drock/2.0.0.html
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14:59 < wosch> Running TP2 now... how come pcnet32.o taints the kernel? Isn't this an opensource module?
15:05 < rxr> wosch: some modules might be incorrect
15:05 < rxr> the might miss the license flag ... :-(
15:05 < wosch> it seems. thought i mention it.
15:06 < rxr> you might verify by doing a custom kernel compile - and report to linux-kernel ;-)
15:06 < wosch> When I get so far...
15:07 < wosch> Right now, it won't start installing, it says:
15:07 < wosch>  /usr/sbin/stone: line 139: /mnt/target/tmp/stone_postinst.sh: No such file or directory
15:08 < wosch> When using ok on the package selection dialog
15:08 < rxr> currently I'm really busy getting the alpha ready ...
15:08 < rxr> could you retest with that release when it is ready ?
15:08 < wosch> Sorry, will not disturb then...
15:08 < rxr> we can discuss bug for this version then ;-)
15:08 < wosch> ok
15:09 < wosch> I'm using a weird setup... trying on vmware first :)
15:11 < rxr> I won't run vmware ...
15:11 < rxr> I usually test on my laptop. Maybe I try bochs the next time ... (but it is slow ...)
15:17 * wosch falls down laughing.
15:19 < wosch> btw, can I get a localized keymap early on?`
15:23 < rxr> you laugh about what?
15:24 < wosch> The kernel was panicking, and it said: Live sucks!
15:24 < wosch> How did it know? :)
15:24 < rxr> the kernel panicked ?????????????????
15:24 < wosch> I tried the small first-stage, and it couldn't find a linuxrc and thus panicked
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15:39 < wosch> Wow... qt-3.1.2
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15:59 < wosch> brb
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16:47 < esden> hi all
16:47 < blindcoder> hi esden
16:48 < daja77> hi esden
16:51 < blindcoder> esden: ping
17:02 < esden> blindcoder: ?
17:02 < esden> blindcoder: if you need something call me
17:02 < blindcoder> esden: are you @in today?
17:02 * -> esden -> ingolstadt
17:02 < blindcoder> esden: okay :)
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17:15 < wosch> re
17:15 < daja77> hi wosch
17:20 < wosch> hmm... seems drock2... tp2 lacks gcc3 (oops!)
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17:32 < rxr> hm ?!?
17:33 < rxr> where do you got the ISO from ?
17:39 * rxr now touches the preleminady alpha ISO on the server - please don't download ...
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17:45 < obiwan_kenobi> hi there
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17:47 < daja77> hi obiwan_kenobi
17:48 < o1k> arts 1.1 from kde 3.1 seems to have incorrect ckecksum ?
17:49 < o1k> Can I get in great trouble when updating pkg descr to the found checksum ?
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17:52 < wosch> got the iso from iso.rocklinux.de
17:52 < wosch> Just to see what happens, I selected ALL, but unselected gnome (preferring kde)
17:53 < wosch> At the end, it did not find gcc3, kdelibs and xanim.
17:53 < wosch> weird
17:59 * wosch hops around in circles.
17:59 < wosch> It boots! Hey, nice login screen :)
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19:09 < rxr> ah thanks I'll fix this
19:11 < wosch> after it was up, i
19:11 < wosch> i tried  modprobe pcnet32  and got _loads_ of missingf symbol errors. Now I give up and wait for your next alpha.
19:15 < rxr> wosch: the symbol thing is fixed in the todays alpha release
19:16 < rxr> and the missing gcc is a mirroring problem ...
19:20 < wosch> weird... i checked the md5 of the isos
19:20 < wosch> a5fd1d8791a168bc09a8610f2c550f30  drock-2.0-00-Technology-Preview2_cd1.iso
19:21 < wosch> 39d3ffedb9b7dacc6060a947d8a9ec17  drock-2.0-00-Technology-Preview2_cd2.iso
19:24 < rxr> mom
19:24 * rxr busy
19:24 < rxr> your .md5 file might be an old one ...
19:25 < rxr> I'll report in some minutes
19:25 * rxr busy ...
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19:50 < rxr> a5fd1d8791a168bc09a8610f2c550f30  drock-2.0-00-Technology-Preview2_cd1.iso
19:50 < rxr> 1a8cc4c0309a79fb6c252fab4d41595b  drock-2.0-00-Technology-Preview2_cd2.iso
19:50 < rxr> THIS ARE THE OFFICIAL MD5 SUMS OF THE TP2 !!
19:51 * rxr does a manual mirror walk ...
19:52 < rxr> my wirror walk yields: The various site have valid files
19:52 < rxr> wosch: when did you downloaded this file ?
19:54 * rxr manual checking the iso.rocklinux.org sites files ...
19:55 < wosch> um...  guess about 10h ago
19:55 < rxr> huh strange
19:56 < wosch> 'the first image matches your md5, the second does not
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19:56 < rxr> do you have DSL or s.th. ?
19:56 < wosch> i donwloaded the md5 files only an hour ago or so
19:56 < wosch> yes
19:58 < wosch> The file ftp://oggy.lunds.lu.se/dRock/2.0-00-Technology-Preview2/drock-2.0-00-Technology-Preview2_cd2.iso.md5
19:58 < wosch> still contains
19:58 < wosch> 39d3ffedb9b7dacc6060a947d8a9ec17  drock-2.0-00-Technology-Preview2_cd2.iso
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19:59 < wosch> This oggy.lunds.lu.se I got when i opened ftp iso.rocklinux.de
20:02 < rxr> jups the cd2 files on iso.rocklinux.de are incorrect
20:02 * rxr still investigating
20:02 < rxr> would you test the alpha release ?
20:02 < wosch> sure
20:03 < rxr> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/ftp/drock/unstable/2.0.0-alpha/
20:04 < wosch> however, even with dsl this is gonna take a few hours
20:04 < rxr> oh shit
20:05 < wosch> oggy gave me 80k/s, now i get only 40
20:05 < rxr> I know why the files are corrupted
20:05 < wosch> 1eet h4x3r?
20:05 < wosch> scnr...
20:06 < rxr> hm?
20:06 < wosch> I was joking, did you get hacked?
20:07 < rxr> I forgot to call the script to create the structure for the mirrors - so the mirror-walk ineed synced an old file for the cd2 ... :-(
20:07 < wosch> oops
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20:30 < wosch> I estimate the download to be complete at two in the night... so i  call this a day and hope i will find fresh filles tomorrow morning
20:30 < wosch> Thanks for your patience!
20:36 < wosch> bye
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20:50 < tcr> re all
20:50 < daja77> hi tcr
20:50 < tcr> Mike1: ping
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22:08 < daja77> re
22:22 < daja77> bye
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22:23 < kasc> re
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22:58 < Mike1> tcr: pong
23:03 < tcr> Mike1: I wrote the mail just a moment ago... Couldnt managed it yesterday
23:03 < Mike1> tcr: ah good
23:03 < Mike1> i am out of here in a moment so will reply on monday :)
23:05 < Mike1> got the mail, thanks tcr
23:05 * Mike1 gone
23:05 < Mike1> n8 all
23:06 < tcr> gn8 Mike1
23:06 < ringo78_> n8 Mike1
23:07 < Mike1> ringo78_ ;-)
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