--- Log opened Tue Apr 01 00:00:27 2003
--- Day changed Tue Apr 01 2003
00:04 < tcr> gn8 all
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00:05 * daja77 feels a bit lonely now
00:12 < ringo78_> daja77: dont .... Thats what I do most of the day ;-)
00:12 < daja77> ringo78_: why?
00:12 < ringo78_> daja77: Unemployed having a hard time concentrating ...
00:14 < daja77> huh, when I was in the Netherlands they told that they need lots of guys for computer things
00:14 < ringo78_> Yehh but I am not to cool no diploms etc ...
00:14 < ringo78_> But reading a nice book  : "Neuromancer"
00:15 < daja77> don't know it
00:15 < ringo78_> Nice scifi a must read, Robert T. Morris liked it ;-)
00:16 < daja77> I'll watch out for it next time I'm in a bookstore
00:19 < ringo78_> I'll have a little job this week ... Testing computers and whacking hd's
00:19 < daja77> hehe cool
00:21 < ringo78_> I'm rtying to build a snapshot see where it gets me, last time I had a little to less room. No I have 14gig I hope it does the trick smoothly ;-)
00:22 < daja77> 14G are sufficient, I did it on a 12G partition and had some GB over
00:24 < ringo78_> hmm nice, what should I read if I want to be a little bit more familair with rock ?
00:25 < daja77> http://www.rocklinux.de/sources/Documentation/
00:25 < daja77> http://www.rocklinux.de/guide.html
00:33 < ringo78_> Feeling like /dev/zero but I am going to manage that. Good I am off now going to regenrate ... C you !
00:33 < daja77> gn8, cu
00:39 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux
00:39 < daja77> hi A-Tui
00:39 < A-Tui> hi
00:39 < A-Tui> hi daja77
00:40 < A-Tui> how is all?
00:40 < daja77> it is well
00:41 < A-Tui> that's great :)
00:41 < daja77> why joining so late?
00:41 < A-Tui> i'm fixing a friend's server
00:41 < daja77> you mean installing rock :)
00:42 < A-Tui> so i'm a little busy
00:42 < A-Tui> yeah
00:42 < A-Tui> im putting a rock there :)
00:42 < daja77> me too, installing a computer for my granny
00:43 < A-Tui> the server was hacked :)
00:43 < daja77> whow, what OS
00:43 < A-Tui> Suse
00:43 < daja77> rotfl
00:43 < A-Tui> but with a very very bad admin
00:44 < A-Tui> it was almost 2 years without upgrading
00:44 < daja77> SuSE --> bad admin
00:44 < A-Tui> yes
00:45 < A-Tui> its very caothic linux system
00:45 < A-Tui> with a very strange init scripts
00:45 < A-Tui> :)
00:45 < daja77> well I have a SuSE server at work, they made me not to change a thing on it, because it's running so well
00:46 < daja77> SuSE is trying to make me hate Linux
00:46 < A-Tui> i had never used a suse linux, but i don't like anything :P
00:46 < daja77> I used it some years ago, until it got on my nerves that much to make me change
00:47 < A-Tui> :)
00:47 < A-Tui> my server now is running on debian
00:47 * daja77 runs away
00:47 < daja77> you've mentioned the d word
00:48 < A-Tui> ops sorry :)
00:48 < A-Tui> but tomorrow i will start with building of ROCK 1.7 ;)
00:48 < daja77> good
00:49 < A-Tui> now i have 1.6
00:49 < daja77> my last 1.7 build finished yesterday, I'm now installing from the isos :)
00:50 < A-Tui> i want to make isos and reinstall ROCK on server
00:50 < daja77> that will be fine :)
00:51 * daja77 just hates debian, don't worry
00:51 < A-Tui> :)
00:51 < A-Tui> don't like it?
00:51 < daja77> nope
00:51 < A-Tui> i started and learned with it
00:52 < A-Tui> but, i wanted get new experiences, and then saw ROCK
00:53 < daja77> I didn't but the main problem with deb are the fanatic users goin on my nerves
00:53 < A-Tui> yes, that's true
00:53 < daja77> :)
00:53 < A-Tui> i had many times discussions about it
00:54 < daja77> me too, and I hate it
00:54 < A-Tui> i have a lot of debian friends
00:54 < A-Tui> and slack friends (who are more moderated) :)
00:54 < daja77> I have some too, some are not trying to convince me, but the others might go to hell instead
00:55 < daja77> hehe, never installed slack but used their nice boot floppies
00:56 < A-Tui> here, in the laptop before the actual ROCK, there was a slack distro
00:56 < daja77> cool
00:57 < A-Tui> i liked slack
00:57 < daja77> hmm maybe I should try it
00:58 < A-Tui> i'm sure enjoy you
00:58 < daja77> we'll see, I'm now looking forward installing rock on my computers
00:59 < daja77> + NetBSD :)
00:59 < A-Tui> w0w
00:59 < A-Tui> :)
00:59 < A-Tui> i had some time ago a freebsd in a machine
00:59 < A-Tui> but i used it very bit
00:59 < daja77> yeah, it is more fun installing it
01:00 < A-Tui> XD
01:00 < A-Tui> yes
01:00 < A-Tui> did you try hurd?
01:01 < daja77> nope
01:01 < daja77> I tried Plan9
01:01 < A-Tui> mmmmm it's sound nice
01:01 < A-Tui> i read about plan9
01:01 < A-Tui> it's a micro kernel arch true?
01:02 < daja77> I think so
01:02 < daja77> I had a nice discussion with one of the Hurd guys about the differences between plan9 and hurd
01:02 < A-Tui> who are Plan9 developers?
01:03 < daja77> Bell Laboratories (the fathers of UNIX)
01:03 < A-Tui> w0w
01:03 < daja77> http://www.cs.bell-labs.com/plan9dist/
01:03 < A-Tui> it's free soft?
01:03 < daja77> sort of
01:04 < daja77> it is gpl with some additions not recognized by fsf
01:04 < A-Tui> aha
01:05 < A-Tui> the logo is great!
01:05 < A-Tui> :)
01:05 < daja77> this is glenda :)
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01:07 < A-Tui> it's pretty :)
01:07 < daja77> http://www.cs.bell-labs.com/plan9dist/glenda.html
01:08 < A-Tui> when i have time perhaps try plan9 on one machine
01:08 < daja77> go for it but be careful if your hardware is supported
01:09 < A-Tui> i don't put it on the laptop, i will use a more simple machine
01:10 < daja77> there are laptops which work with plan9, but you have to be careful on other machines as well
01:10 < A-Tui> lucent belongs to Bell Labs?
01:10 < daja77> Bell Labs belong to Lucent
01:11 < daja77> plan9 runs in graphic mode only so the graphics adaptor must be supported by plan9
01:12 < A-Tui> i have no idea
01:13 < daja77> http://www.cs.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/supported_pc_hardware/index.html
01:14 < A-Tui> sis chipsets are not supported :(
01:15 < daja77> hehe, that's what I meant about being careful, but the hardware support has gained since I tried it last time
01:16 < A-Tui> well, i think that i have a machine that could work
01:17 < A-Tui> daja77: see you later, work call me :)
01:17 < daja77> A-Tui: cu
02:04 < esden> re hi all
02:04 < daja77> re esden :)
02:04 < esden> does anyone know a easy internet phone solution ?
02:04 < daja77> audio or video
02:05 < esden> audio would suffice for the beginning ;-)
02:06 < daja77> you mean software not a provider right?
02:06 < esden> it can also be a win$ solution ... or even better a cross platform
02:09 < daja77> for the moment you can be use gnomemeeting (but they are closing their source to support tcpa *aaaargh*)
02:09 < esden> yes I mean software ... I know that there is something ... but do not know where to search ... /me is too lazy to search the net ...
02:09 < esden> WHAT ??? 
02:10 < esden> you are kidding me !
02:10 < daja77> http://www.gnomemeeting.org read it for yourself
02:10 < esden> *click*
02:13 < esden> "We have decided to close the source code of GnomeMeeting because we think it is a good way to produce more secure software." they are kidding ... they lost their minds ... 
02:13 * -> esden is disgusted to the extreme !!!!
02:13 * -> esden still can not belive that...
02:13 < daja77> oh I forgot it's April 1st
02:14 < esden> urgh ... *sigh*
02:14 < esden> they got me
02:14 < esden> they really got me !
02:14 < daja77> me too
02:14 < esden> *lough*
02:14 < esden> cool
02:15 < daja77> hehe, yeah it's really cool
02:16 < owl> re
02:16 < daja77> re owl
02:16 < A-Tui> hi esden hi owl
02:16 < daja77> esden: should we point her to that link
02:17 < A-Tui> well guys, i tired so i go to sleep
02:17 < A-Tui> good nights all!!
02:17 < A-Tui> buenas noches
02:17 < daja77> gn8 A-Tui, cu
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02:17 < esden> daja77: yes !
02:18 < daja77> owl: have a look at the latest press release from gnomemeeting at http://www.gnomemeeting.org
02:18 * -> esden is waiting for reports on slashdot ;-)
02:19 * tfing too
02:19 < owl> have no bandwith  for my  browser....
02:19 < daja77> owl: you are taking away our fun
02:20 < owl> daja77: yeah. compain at telekomiker and force them to install t-dsl  here
02:20 < daja77> owl: don't use Telekom
02:21 < owl> daja77: here is no chance to get *DSL (not QDS, not, T-DSL, notFSCK-DSL)
02:21 < daja77> well, then wait for the displaying of that page, it is worth a try
02:21 < owl> noooooooo#
02:22 < esden> owl: is sucking like a ... erm ... hoover ;-)
02:22 < daja77> stop complaining I'm an isdn user as well, I know what it can do :)
02:23 < owl> daja77: dont "BLAH" around
02:23 < daja77> owl: I don't
02:23 < owl> i'm updating my 1.7-sources...  so - i have no bandwith for brosers or stuff!
02:24 < owl> browsers even
02:24 < daja77> you have, I know it, done it myself while downloaded sources
02:24 < daja77> esden: maybe we should announce it on /.
02:24 < esden> daja77: but what ...
02:24 < esden> we need something very good
02:24 < owl> daja77: *grrrrrrrr*
02:25 < esden> tcpa support in rocklinux ?
02:25 < daja77> why not, claim that we include the ibm patches
02:25 < owl> rocklinux officially supported/sponsored  or so by microsoft...
02:26 < daja77> rockmond
02:26 < esden> yea
02:26 < esden> cool
02:26 < daja77> owl: :P
02:27 < daja77> of course we must have such an announcement on the rock hp
02:27 < daja77> on the other hand it is lame to clone the jokes of other people
02:28 < esden> daja77: I write to jocelin
02:28 < daja77> :)
02:28 < esden> she will announce that ...
02:28 < esden> and clifford of course
02:28 < daja77> sounds great
02:29 < esden> I need to write to the mailinglist with the patches ... *sigh*
02:29 < esden> how can I produce fake patches ...
02:30 < daja77> modify README, create a patch, and create a Patch which turns everything back
02:30 < esden> tcpa target ...
02:30 < esden> hmm
02:30 < daja77> hehe, yeah
02:32 < esden> ok ... first update my rock tree
02:33 < daja77> damn I forgot my /. account
02:33 < esden> I think that I do not need to include the patches ... they are closed source ;-)
02:33 < daja77> lol
02:33 < esden> daja77: then create new one
02:34 < daja77> yes maybe, I'll dig my mails if find it there
02:34 < esden> I will need an hour or so to create the patch
02:35 < esden> I will submit to symlink when the mail is on the mailinglist
02:36 < daja77> ok
02:39 < esden> hmm ... it seems that cliff is working on the cvs tree ... 
02:56 < esden> daja77: have you seen the comment in Documentation/Developers/CHANGELOG recently ?
02:56 < daja77> eh no
02:57 * daja77 is currently submitting the gnomemeeting story to /.
02:57 < esden> hehe ;-)
02:58 < esden> from Documentation/Developers/CHANGELOG-CLIFFORD : "- New nice init scripts are default now" <- that sounds not really like clifford ...
02:58 < daja77> *g*
03:05 < daja77> submission is out
03:05 < esden> good
03:05 < esden> tcpa target on the way
03:05 < esden> or do you have a better name ?
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03:07 < daja77> esden: do you know why yesterday's log is not available
03:08 < daja77> tcpa is the best name for it, maybe enhanced_security would be good but not really
03:08 < daja77> palladium perhaps
03:08 < esden> but that is the windows system ... not the overall "security" system
03:09 < daja77> hehe, sure
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03:09 < demian> hi guys
03:09 < esden> hi demian 
03:09 < demian> hallo esden
03:10 * demian just reading cliff resume
03:10 < owl> hi demian
03:10 < demian> Miss owl !
03:10 < daja77> hi demain, join us having fun on April 1st
03:10 < demian> why ?
03:10 < demian> what would be cool in april 1st ?
03:10 < esden> demian: resume ?
03:10 < demian> :)
03:11 < demian> esden: curriculum vitae
03:11 < esden> ahh
03:11 < daja77> demian: go for http://www.gnomemeeting.org
03:11 < demian> surprising
03:11 * demian remembers he is from costa rica, just some few kilometers far from there
03:11 < esden> hmm ... that should be enough
03:12 < esden> does anyone have a 1.7 binary cd ?
03:12 < daja77> me
03:13 < esden> daja77: put it somewher where people can reach it ... with the "appropriate" name ;-)
03:13 < demian> hehe
03:13 < demian> what is the last rock 1.7 tree release ?
03:13 < daja77> have not that much space on the net
03:13 < demian> for the cd
03:13 < demian> iso
03:14 < esden> daja77: hmm ... 
03:14 < esden> ok ... then I will announce that the cd will be avalable soon
03:14 < daja77> :)
03:17 < esden> ok ... patch ready
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03:17 < daja77> cool
03:18 < esden> for review: http://www.esden.net/rocklinux/tcpa.patch
03:18 < esden> any comments ?
03:19 < esden> I need a help file ...
03:19 < daja77> hmm
03:20 < demian> nice, im playing with a SMP now !
03:22 < demian> Linux VLSI-11 2.4.18-3smp #1 SMP Thu Apr 18 07:27:31 EDT 2002 i686 unknown
03:22 < demian> but runnig a redhat :(
03:22 < daja77> the are worse distros than that
03:23 < esden> daja77: ok new version of the patch online
03:24 < esden> comments ?
03:24 < daja77> typo, wonder instead of wander
03:24 < esden> k
03:25 < esden> corrected
03:26 < esden> ok ... so I send it to the mailinglist ...
03:26 < daja77> wait
03:27 < daja77> you could add a sentence after the first one
03:27 < daja77> tcpa target turns your computer into a trusted platform
03:28 < daja77> something like that, I mean a marketing phrase, you know
03:30 < daja77> esden: what do you think
03:34 < esden> yes that is good
03:34 < esden> I write the email to the mailinglist at the moment...
03:35 < daja77> :)
03:35 < esden> good coffee brewing ;-)
03:35 < owl> kjlojlkä#
03:36 < daja77> ??
03:36 < owl> sorry... my pillowx was typing
03:36 < daja77> *rofl*
03:38 < esden> rofl
03:39 < esden> do not put so many bacteria in to your pillow owl so that it begins to live ...
03:39 < owl> *g*
03:40 < esden> daja77: patch updated
03:41 < esden> daja77: read also http://www.esden.net/rocklinux/tcpa.mail <- what do you think can I send it like that ?
03:41 < daja77> esden: it should be into a trusted one
03:42 < esden> what have I written ? ... o_O
03:42 < daja77> to
03:42 < esden> ahh ok
03:43 * -> esden english needs improovement ... /me is also pretty tired by now >_<
03:43 < esden> but corrected
03:43 < daja77> me too
03:43 * daja77 reads esden's mail
03:43 < esden> there are also many faults
03:44 < daja77> dunno, mom
03:44 < daja77> the mail is ok
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03:44 < daja77> so far I can see this now
03:45 < esden> good ... so I send it away
03:45 < daja77> yeah, do it
03:45 < esden> ahh ... another thing
03:45 < esden> I have to ask cliff/jocelin to announce that on our homepage
03:46 < daja77> yes that
03:47 < daja77> it seems that there is someone looking on pending submissions on /. now, there is hope
03:49 < esden> mail sent
03:49 < daja77> cool
03:50 < daja77> clifford will kill you if he applies it to CVS
03:50 < demian> hehe
03:50 < esden> yes he will
03:50 < esden> on aprill it is foregivable
03:51 < daja77> the best part is to remove things from CVS, hehe
03:51 < esden> ?
03:51 * -> esden confused
03:52 < demian> have someone worked with serial port in C or java ?
03:52 < daja77> removing dirs from CVS is painful
03:52 < esden> yes right ;-)
03:52 * -> esden is looking forward to the responses ;-)
03:52 < daja77> *g*
03:53 < daja77> hehe, recvd your mail
03:53 * -> esden too ;-)
03:54 < esden> daja77: clifford should answer as he uses to: "applied" with no further comment ;-)
03:54 < daja77> *lol*
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03:58 < esden> daja77: will you submit to slashdot?
03:58 < daja77> about your mail
03:59 < daja77> I fear I'm a too tired for this now
04:00 < esden> hmm ... ok
04:01 < esden> hmm ... the mail is not yet in the web archive ...
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04:02 < daja77> that takes some hours sometimes
04:02 < esden> argh
04:02 < esden> I can not submit to symlink or /. till it is there ...
04:03 < daja77> yes
04:03 < daja77> I'll go to bed now, have fun
04:04 < esden> good night daja77 
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04:04 * -> esden will have fun beeing killed by some people
04:05 < owl> in suicidial mood, esden #?
04:05 < esden> yes ;-)
04:06 < owl> *fg*
04:06 * owl kills esden with a sword
04:06 < owl> do you  feel better, now? ;)
04:06 < esden> much better!
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04:07 < owl> welll
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05:23 < esden> wooow that looks amazing: http://www.megatokyo.com/strips/0391.jpg
05:24 < esden> I can not wait to see the full image
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05:31 < demian> re
05:31 < demian> so.. none have played with serial port to send and receive data ?
05:31 < esden> nope
05:32 < esden> demian: see this: http://www.megatokyo.com/strips/0391.jpg
05:32 < esden> I am really interested how the full poster will look like
05:34 < demian> i need to implement a virtual RISC machine which will be a server for scoreboarding through serial port, from which clients will receive the out of order answer to execute an instrucion
05:34 < demian> fucking teacher and fucking homework :(
05:34 < demian> nice pic esden !
05:34 < esden> virtual RISC machine?
05:34 < esden> an emulator?
05:34 < demian> yes
05:34 < demian> yes
05:34 < esden> what kind of RISC?
05:35 < demian> i choose it, possibly MIPS, since once i coded in MIPS asm some time ago .
05:36 < esden> where do you get a MIPS emulator? (excuse my stupid question)
05:37 < demian> spim
05:37 < esden> url?
05:37 < demian> mom
05:37 < demian> # [V] 6.4
05:37 < demian> # [S] 3 4
05:37 < demian> # [D] spim.tar.gz http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~larus/SPIM/
05:38 < esden> ohh
05:38 < demian> but now i have to code mine :(
05:38 < demian> and more complicated :(
05:39 < esden> hmm ... I see
05:39 < demian> with scoreboarding and a complete pipelining system :(
05:39 < esden> cool ... that is fun I bet
05:39 < esden> in which language will you implement it
05:39 < demian> a server of pipelining and a client which will execute instructions according with what the server says
05:40 < demian> esden: i need first to know how to communicate with serial, parallel or USB port (i choose one)
05:40 < demian> and i should do a GUI to see the process tat the server is doing
05:40 < esden> under linux you simply send to the device ... but I do not think that is what you want to know
05:40 < demian> so... the only thing where i know how to code GUIs is Java
05:40 < demian> hehe
05:40 < demian> sure, cat > /dev/tts..
05:41 < esden> on intel it is a interrupt
05:41 < demian> it must be generic
05:41 < demian> umm.. yeah ?
05:41 < esden> and a gate on which you write
05:41 < demian> i see
05:41 < esden> if I remember correctly
05:42 < demian> umm
05:42 < demian> how can i call an int in C ?
05:42 < demian> in asm it is easy. but i dunno how to do it in C
05:43 < esden> that outranges my knowledge
05:43 < esden> I also only know how to do it in asm
05:43 < demian> but i bet there should be a library to play with things like those in C
05:44 < demian> same for java
05:44 < esden> no I think that in C it is in the language directly
05:46 < demian> dunno../me newbie
05:58 < esden> woot: http://www.merecatcreations.com/
05:58 < esden> go to desktops
05:58 < esden> really neat stuff
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07:03 < rxr> esden: nice aprils fool ;-)
07:04 < blindcoder> rxr: indeed :)
07:05 < blindcoder> rxr: I must admit, I fell for it :)
07:09 < blindcoder> br
07:09 < blindcoder> b
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07:16 < kasc> moin
07:17 < kasc> reading mails so early a day isnt good... ;)
07:18 < rxr> cu all
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07:18 < blindcoder> kasc: indeed :)
07:18 < blindcoder> brb
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07:19 < blindcoder> kasc: espocially if you forgot which day is today >_<
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07:26 < kasc> hehe
07:34 < esden> good morning everyone
07:35 < esden> hmm ... it seems that you guys are half asleep ;-)
07:36 < esden> good rxr applied my patch ;-)
07:37 < esden> blindy_fool: something for you : http://lime.aniverse.com:3000/
07:38 < esden> very good anime music station if anyone is interested
07:38 < kasc> morning esden
07:40 < esden> morning kasc 
07:40 < esden> how are you today ... how is your level of caffein doing today?
07:40 < kasc> am i the first who fell in to you april fool?
07:40 < kasc> too low. I'm still in batch mode ;)
07:41 < esden> no blincoder also fell in my afull ;-)
07:41 -!- kasc is now known as kasc_fool
07:41 < kasc_fool> hehe
07:43 < esden> kasc_fool: see this : http://www.gnomemeeting.org
07:43 < blindy_fool> esden: I hate you
07:44 < esden> blindy_fool: :D I love you too ;-)
07:44 < esden> chakka chakka
07:44 < blindy_fool> esden: good :)
07:44 < blindy_fool> esden: you know, today was the first day in 2 weeks that I chose to read mails BEFORE I have a coffee...
07:45 * blindy_fool having breakfast
07:45 < esden> that was a mistake ... I would give a lot to see your face when you read my mail
07:45 < blindy_fool> esden: hehe :)
07:45 < esden> blindy_fool: what were your first words?
07:45 < blindy_fool> esden: first: sweet. second: damn, what's with my harddisk? No space left on device an 24 GB free?
07:46 < blindy_fool> then I did a fsck on my disk, had a coffee and looked at the clack...
07:46 < blindy_fool> clock, actually
07:46 < blindy_fool> 01.04.2003.... *slurp* ... esden... I hate you...
07:46 < esden> hehe
07:46 < blindy_fool> that was the chain of events
07:47 < esden> I love this day already
07:47 < blindy_fool> esden: serious question: is there ANY way to look through the mailing list archives on rocklinux.org?
07:47 < esden> owl and daja inpired me ;-)
07:47 < blindy_fool> I love it, too sinco I will go home around 13:00 today :)
07:48 < esden> http://www.rocklinux.org/maling-list/rock-linux/2003-4/0.html
07:49 < blindy_fool> esden: My thought was more along the lines of http://scavenger.homeip.net/~blindcoder/rocklinux/archive/
07:49 < esden> rene is also playing the game with me ;-) he "applied" the patch ;-)
07:49 < blindy_fool> yes :)
07:50 < esden> I am very interested what people will answer
07:51 < esden> clifford answered ;-)
07:51 < esden> I made a mistake
07:52 < blindy_fool> tsktsktsk
07:53 < esden> lack of caffeine
07:56 < esden> clifford really has an eye for bugs ...
07:56 < esden> *sigh*
07:57 < esden> from praenti: Hi, ist das jetzt ein April-Scherz oder ist IBM wirklich so spendabel (IMHO ich nicht glaube)? Ach ja und wer ist dann alles drauf reingefallen ;-) Gruss, Michael
07:57 < esden> lol
07:58 < esden> blindy_fool: still here? a link for you: http://lime.aniverse.com:3000/
07:59 < esden> and one more http://www.merekatcreations.com
07:59 < esden> really good site
08:05 < blindy_fool> esden: yes, I already knew both, but aniverse-radio isn't my cup of tea
08:06 < blindy_fool> esden: btw: why the fuck are you awake at this time of the day?
08:08 < esden> because I slept yesterday in the afternoon and woke up at 21:30 or so ...
08:08 < esden> and now I am still awake
08:09 < esden> I had to create the patch send it and watch the reaction ... so I could not go to bed ;-)
08:09 < blindy_fool> tststs
08:10 < esden> that is owl's expression ... you know that ...
08:10 < blindy_fool> so what?
08:11 < kasc_fool> umm... what about a taliban release? not sure what to put into that, tho...
08:13 < blindy_fool> kasc_fool: ROCK LInux Al-Qaida Edition: with (dammit... whatshisname?) Desktop Themes, Extra Flight-Simulation Games and Do-it-yourself-C4-Explosives!
08:13 < blindy_fool> dammit... now this Channel is monitored by the DOHS
08:14 < kasc_fool> kewl :)
08:14 < kasc_fool> greets to your guys from DOHS then :)
08:14 < esden> blindy_fool: did you know this forum? : forums.sijun.com
08:15 (Users #rocklinux)
08:15 [ aszlig     ] [ fake      ] [ kasc_fool] [ Parabull_] [ ruddur] [ tfing ] 
08:15 [ blindy_fool] [ huebi     ] [ Lorini_  ] [ ringo78_ ] [ SMP   ] [ tibit_] 
08:15 [ esden      ] [ jasonmaier] [ owl      ] [ rolla    ] [ snyke ] 
08:15 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 17 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal]
08:15 < esden> blindy_fool: nice!
08:16 < esden> DOHS?
08:16 < esden> it seems that I need another cupple of hours of sleep ... *sigh*
08:16 < esden> I hate that
08:17 < blindy_fool> Deportment of Homeland Security
08:17 < esden> ohh ... so I also greet also over to DOHS
08:18 * -> esden waves
08:20 < esden> wooow ... that hurts: http://div.dyndns.org/EK/selfs.jpg
08:24 < blindy_fool> http://bash.org/?13077 <--- WEE
08:26 < kasc_fool> lol
08:27 < esden> lol
08:50 < esden> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/sun-31.03.03-000/ <- finally they provide it!
08:50 < blindy_fool> brb
08:53 < blindy_fool> re
08:53 < blindy_fool> esden: hehe :)
08:59 < kasc_fool> kewl :)
09:02 < blindy_fool> ah, still 4 hours to go
09:12 < esden> blindy_fool: DO NOT COMPLAIN!
09:22 < esden> wee answer from clifford! YESS
09:23 < esden> ROFL
09:23 < esden> very good
09:25 < kasc_fool> lol
09:26 < kasc_fool> wouldnt be that bad after all... then i should be able to get a larger harddisk to build a rock without tailoring a pksel first ;)
09:30 < blindy_fool> esden: I don't complain
09:32 < blindy_fool> esden: there's a fine difference between complaining and whining :D
09:33 < esden> so do not whine ...
09:33 < blindy_fool> :(
09:33 * blindy_fool now compiling xmms @work
09:36 < esden> guys ... I have another image for you ... if you like, it is called the "Firy queen": http://www.optidigit.com/stevens/fairyqueen4.jpg and other version:  http://www.optidigit.com/stevens/fairyqueen3.jpg
09:37 < blindy_fool> esden found a new hobby
09:37 < esden> hmm nice: RFC 3514 - New bit defined for IPv4 Headers
09:37 < blindy_fool> it's about time :)
09:38 * -> esden loves art ... and I see that digital art is very impresive now
09:39 < esden> and Gentoo incorporates the RPM format in their distribution
09:39 < esden> that is what they really deserve!
09:41 < blindy_fool> muhahaha
09:51 < esden> hmm ... go to www.cpan.org ...
09:51 < esden> *cough*
09:58 < blindy_fool> sweet
09:58 < esden> yes ;-)
09:58 < blindy_fool> last year it was the Comprehensive Java Archive Network
10:04 < kasc_fool> hehe
10:05 < blindy_fool> not to forget freshmeats now infamous Xbox-Layout :D
10:14 < esden> that was good yes
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10:21 < tcr> moin all
10:23 < esden> morning tcr 
10:24 < tcr> "We need to fill 10 new Editor positions. These will be our usual fulltime positions with starting salaries of $65,000/year. In addition to the standard health benefits, basic laptop computers and Internet access will be provided."
10:25 < tcr> freshmeat searches for more employees
10:25 < blindy_fool> WEE! INTERNET ACCESS!! :)
10:26 < tcr> Hrrm.. they select candidats through their irc channel
10:26 < tcr> heh, that's geeky, aint it? ;)
10:30 < esden> yups
10:31 < blindy_fool> but the best is still ThinkGeek :D
10:31 < tcr> btw. esden: in target/tcpa/tcpa.txt you wrote 'a NDA' but as NDA is spoken EnDihAey it must be an NDA ;)
10:32 < blindy_fool> tcr: don't hassle esden with grammar. he already has prbolems with speling :)
10:32 * tfing laughs at the tcpa thread
10:33 < tfing> yop guyz
10:33 < tcr> blindy_fool: This makes him just a lot more american ;))
10:33 < blindy_fool> muiahahaha
10:35 < esden> hi tfing 
10:35 < esden> tcr: I know that my english is bad >_<
10:36 < tcr> Hmm well you have said that, not me ;)
10:38 < esden> tcr: ye ye
10:38 < esden> but thanks for correcting
10:39 < esden> I will try to improove myself ... 
10:39 < blindy_fool> 2:20 to go...
10:39 < blindy_fool> including 30-45 minutes lunch break
10:41 < tfing> blindy_fool: thx for xjdic package btw, i won't have to go on the web to look for a japanese dictionary anymore ;)
10:41 < tcr> what's so funny on the thread btw? 8)
10:43 * tcr is waiting for daja...
10:47 < blindy_fool> tfing: :) yes, I know how you feel
10:50 < blindy_fool> tfing: I could have also given you a good site for japanese->eng[rl]ish translation, but unfortunately by bookmarks-file vanished due to stupid harddisk >_<
10:54 < blindy_fool> http://www.engrish.com/computer/image/spermmouse.jpg <-- I WANT THAT MOUSE :D
10:55 < tfing> blindy_fool: do u know how to make mutt displays kanjis ?
10:55 < blindy_fool> tfing: hmm... using kterm might work
10:55 < tfing> kterm only is not sufficient
10:56 < tfing> i got something encoded in iso-2022-jp
10:56 < blindy_fool> tfing: hmm.. no, then I don't know, sorry
10:56 < tfing> ok, thx anyway
10:56 < blindy_fool> hmm.. I sometimes get these mails, too
10:56 < blindy_fool> usually they contain links to (insert randomm sex phrase here).co.jp
10:58 < tfing> it was a greeting card from yahoo.co.jp
11:14 < tibit_> http://www.theorie.physik.uni-goettingen.de/pipermail/transcode-users/2003-April/006961.html
11:16 < tibit_> oops, sorry
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11:22 < blindy_fool>  ah, nothing like being superior to others :D
11:30 < tcr> hrm?
11:35 < blindy_fool> ah, our proxy buffers sites before it sends them to the client
11:35 < blindy_fool> but with transconnect it works like a charm (Streaming radio)
11:40 < blindy_fool> ah, one more hour to go
11:56 < blindy_fool> now it's lunch first
11:57 < tcr> mahlzeit
12:27 < blindy_fool> back
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13:07 < kasc_fool> did anyone of you manage to build pwlib and openh323?
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13:33 < tfing> kasc_fool: yep
13:34 < kasc_fool> tfing: what version?
13:36 < tfing> openh323 1.10.5 and pwlib 1.4.5 it seems
13:36 < kasc_fool> on a rock linux?
13:37 < tfing> yep
13:37 < tfing> i use gnomemeeting ;)
13:37 < kasc_fool> then maybe you can help me :)
13:37 < kasc_fool> pwlib wont build here
13:37 < tfing> what did u do ?
13:39 < kasc_fool> i got the pwlib from cvs, set the PWLIBDIR and put the dir/lib into my ld.so.conf as described in the documentation
13:39 < kasc_fool> but in make both  i get lots of errors
13:40 < tfing> i did not do a make both
13:40 < kasc_fool> just make?
13:40 < tfing> no
13:40 < tfing> make something else
13:41 < tfing> i don't remember preciseley
13:41 < tfing> make shared maybe
13:41 < tfing> look at the makefile
13:41 < tfing> see which targets are available
13:43 < kasc_fool> optshared, debugshared and bothshared
13:44 < kasc_fool> one of them?
13:48 < tfing> type make help to get all the targets
13:48 < tfing> i think i did make opt
13:50 < kasc_fool> lets see what happens :)
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14:12 < kasc_fool> still the same error
14:13 < kasc_fool> it complains about an invalid conversion from `void*' to `XML_ParserStruct*'
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14:28 < daja77> moin
14:36 < kasc_fool> moin daja77
14:36 < daja77> hi kasc_fool, why the fool today?
14:37 < kasc_fool> didnt read my mail, yet?
14:37 < daja77> ehm no, mom
14:38 < daja77> whow, 24 new messages
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14:42 < daja77> dunno, which mail you are referring to
14:42 < daja77> you mean cos you didn't got that joke
14:44 < kasc_fool> yep
14:44 < daja77> poor kasc_fool
14:44 < kasc_fool> at least not until my mail was outta my mailq
14:44 < daja77> hehe
14:45 < daja77> I have to admit that I was involved in this matter, so blame me if you like
14:46 < kasc_fool> i know :)
14:46 < daja77> damn
14:46 < kasc_fool> hehe
14:46 < daja77> who has talked??
14:47 < kasc_fool> *g*
14:48 < kasc_fool> brb
14:52 * daja77 is away: having a walk and work :)
15:07 < kasc_fool> re
15:53 < rolla> re
16:05 * daja77 is back (gone 01:13:00)
16:05 < daja77> re
16:08 < daja77> damn those gentoo guys beat out my submission with their jokae
16:08 < rolla> bah
16:08 * rolla hates april 1st
16:08 < daja77> why?
16:09 < rolla> it is dumb these jokes
16:09 < rolla> can never get any work done cause noone wants to help
16:09 < rolla> alleays with the jokes
16:09 < daja77> oh come on, have you been fooled that bad
16:11 < daja77> *rofl* New RFC Adds "Evil Bit"
16:12 < rolla> nope never been fool just annoyed by mind less morons that have nothing better to do with their lives
16:12 < daja77> it is just one day out of 365, so never mind
16:13 < rolla> if they put this much energy into good use image what can happen instead they act like 5 year olds.
16:14 < daja77> rolla: what's the matter with you?
16:14 < rolla> nothing
16:14 < rolla> just marveling at how dumb people can be
16:15 < daja77> you have known that before
16:15 < rolla> yes but today show just how dumb people can be
16:15 < daja77> there are some really good jokes out
16:16 < rolla> not really
16:16 < daja77> esden and me were really fooled by one this night
16:17 < rolla> daja77: only belive half of what you read and half of what you hear
16:17 -!- kasc_fool is now known as kasc
16:17 < rolla> but know which half is the hard part
16:17 < daja77> you turn out as philosopher today
16:18 < rolla> daja77: I am allways like this
16:18 < daja77> this is good
16:19 < daja77> but anyway I don't mind a good joke
16:22 < daja77> rolla: btw, I added a new hd to my grandma's pc so that we can switch between GNOME and KDE, to see which is better :)
16:25 < rolla> :)
16:25 * rolla is using garnome right now
16:25 < daja77> I used it once, but it was not that much fun, I expected
16:26 < rolla> it makes build gnome so much eaier
16:26 < daja77> yes, but I had still to make some patches
16:26 < rolla> ah
16:27 < rolla> nod
16:27 < daja77> :)
16:27 < rolla> but if it saves me time getting gnome up I am happy
16:27 < daja77> of course you'll be :)
16:27 * rolla goes back to learning SAP
16:27 < daja77> WHAT?
16:28 < rolla> daja77: you know what SAP is right?
16:28 < daja77> omg, yes I feel with you
16:28 < rolla> daja77: that phrase would be. "I feel for you"
16:28 < esden> good morning ;-)
16:28 < rolla> re esden
16:29 < daja77> I feel for you, then
16:29 < daja77> hi esden, congrats
16:29 < rolla> daja77: what does zundfolge mean?
16:29 < daja77> rolla: don't know the word
16:29 < esden> huhu daja77 
16:30 < esden> re rolla 
16:30 < rolla> daja77: it is german
16:30 < rolla> it might be zuendfolge
16:30 < daja77> there is no german word zundfolge
16:30 < daja77> did you find that in SAP docs
16:30 < rolla> might be abbr.
16:31 < rolla> daja77: nope on a car part
16:31 < rolla> daja77: http://dave.maisenhelder.net/bmw/Pictures/318i/Paint/MVC-279F.JPG
16:32 < daja77> could be spark order
16:33 < rolla> ?
16:33 < daja77> or ignition order
16:33 < rolla> ah
16:33 < rolla> is it an abbervation?
16:34 < daja77> no but it seems to be a widdely unknown technical term
16:34 < rolla> unkown?
16:34 < daja77> I've never heard of it
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16:35 < rolla> :)
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16:36 < dadark> hey, a little question.. how can i make a bootdisk? :D i mean.. i can't find a manual about the installation???
16:37 < daja77> esden: there seems to be a bug in http://www.rocklinux.de/irc.html the logs from yesterday and the day before are not linked
16:37 < rolla> daja77: babelfish knows the word :)
16:37 < daja77> cool
16:37 < rolla> firing order
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16:38 < daja77> which is not much different from my proposal
16:38 < rolla> nope
16:38 < rolla> daja77: good call
16:38 < daja77> ??
16:38 < rolla> daja77: it means good answer or you are right
16:39 < daja77> ah thx
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16:51 < daja77> hmm, new enlightment is out
17:19 < owl> hi
17:20 < daja77> hi owl, awake now? *g*
17:20 < owl> jup.
17:20 < daja77> :)
17:28 < rolla> re owl
17:28 < owl> hi rolla
17:40 < esden> daja77: ups ... strange
17:41 < daja77> esden: it seems that there is no additional row left in that table
17:45 < owl> hi esden
17:54 < ringo78_> hi all
17:55 < daja77> hi ringo78_
17:55 < owl> moin ringo78_
17:55 < ringo78_> Just fixed 4 pc's (hardware). 25 to go ... Nice job
17:56 < owl> have fun, ringo78_
17:56 < daja77> how many whacked hds
17:56 < ringo78_> thanks ... Have to make everything working. No whacked hd's just loads of them 'missing'.
17:57 < owl> great. sounds really like a "nice" job
17:57 < daja77> ringo78_: explain missing
17:58 < owl> if something is not existent...
17:58 < ringo78_> Yehh its really more moving system cases and searching components.
17:58 < daja77> owl: thx, that was not my question
17:59 < owl> daja77: :P it was the explanation of the famous word "missing" - so, don't complain
17:59 < ringo78_> missing .. stolen I suppose it all stands in a room which is easy top enter , just trying to make as much working systems as posibel.
17:59 < daja77> stolen, bad thing
18:00 < ringo78_> s/possibel/plausibel/
18:00 < ringo78_> stolen = bad Welcoem to the 21st century.
18:00 < ringo78_> s/Welocoem/Welcome/
18:01 < daja77> ringo78_: to get your right, your are puzzling PCs from which hardware was stolen
18:02 < ringo78_> some is stolen not all fortunenatly .
18:02 < daja77> how the hell someone gets such a job?
18:03 < ringo78_> By a sipatch bureau...
18:04 < ringo78_> dispach sri
18:04 < daja77> huh?
18:04 < owl> <-- off for "having fun" or so
18:04 < owl> bye
18:04 < daja77> rofl
18:05 < ringo78_> yeh laugh its something ...  Maybe its called dispach agency...
18:08 < ringo78_> hmm bad superblock ... Nice have to boot from cd...
18:25 < ringo78_> Think I gave my own computer to llittle attention today, he/she is taking revenge ... Bad superblock...
18:25 < daja77> revenge, hehe
18:34 < ringo78_> is there any change in the cups package ? It wont compile for some od reason.
18:34 < daja77> ringo78_: disable paranoia checks
18:35 < daja77> cups compiles it just try to install the same man pages as LPRng
18:36 < ringo78_> daja77: ok .. thanks ..
19:05 < kasc> is there a way to make gnomemeeting compile without installing jet another bdb?
19:05 < daja77> bdb?
19:06 < kasc> openldap claims to need bdb41
19:06 < kasc> ang gnomemeeting seems to need openldap
19:06 < daja77> wtf is bdb, I hope it's not berkeleyDB
19:07 < kasc> it is
19:07 < daja77> damn
19:07 < daja77> what does gnomemeeting openldap for
19:07 < kasc> that is exactly what i wanted to hear... NOT
19:07 < kasc> configure in gnomemeeting/ claims openldap is needed
19:07 < kasc> dunno why
19:08 < daja77> kasc: sorry tell me things you wanna hear, I will say them only for you
19:08 < kasc> in fact i would prefer a solution that doesnt contain installing any bdb or ldap
19:09 < daja77> what does ./configure --help say about openldap
19:09 < kasc> nothing
19:09 < daja77> damn again
19:09 < kasc>   --with-openldap-includes=PFX   Location of OpenLDAP includes.
19:09 < kasc>   --with-openldap-libs=PFX       Location of OpenLDAP libs.
19:09 < daja77> those suckers
19:10 < kasc> no --enable* or --disable*
19:13 < daja77> it seems that gnomemeeting needs openldap for the ILS directory stuff
19:13 < kasc> ILS?
19:13 < daja77> don't ask me, I just read on their homepage
19:14 < daja77> gnomemeeting was the inspiraton for tcpa target :)
19:15 < kasc> i know that already, too ;)
19:16 < kasc> someone was being very informative :)
19:16 < daja77> who?
19:17 * daja77 is waiting for an answer
19:18 < kasc> think i found a prehistoric version of openldap that doesnt need bdb41 :)
19:18 * kasc innocently changes topic... *whistle*
19:19 < daja77> kasc: don't try to distract
19:21 < kasc> ok ok... esden did
19:21 < daja77> *smile* that's ok
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19:24 < kasc> :)
19:31 < daja77> kasc: are you goin to Magdeburg this weekend?
19:33 -!- ^wolf^ [~chatzilla@p5081B6E4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
19:35 < kasc> Magdeburg?
19:35 < daja77> hi ^wolf^
19:35 < kasc> hallo ^wolf^
19:35 < daja77> kasc: there is a Linuxtag on Saturday
19:35 < kasc> oh, nice to know :)
19:36 < kasc> wouldnt know how to get there/where to sleep...
19:38 < ^wolf^> hallo
19:38 < daja77> mhmm, I have to find something for myself, I was told, that there is a nice motel at the railway station
19:38 < daja77> but I don't know it
19:39 < owl> re
19:40 < daja77> re hi
19:40 < kasc> maybe there is a youth hostel or something...
19:40 < daja77> btw, http://www.mdlug.de/linuxtag2003/index.php?option=linuxtag&Itemid=52
19:42 < daja77> kasc: http://www.magdeburg-tourist.de/indexmd.phtml
19:44 < kasc> thx
19:44 < daja77> np
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19:48 < tsa> hi all
19:48 < kasc> hi tsa
19:48 < tsa> hi kasc
19:48 < daja77> hi tsa
19:48 < tsa> hi daja77
19:48 < owl> hi tsa
19:48 < tsa> hi owl
19:52 < kasc> daja77: think that would be too much trouble to now start organizing that for me
19:52 < daja77> hmm :(
19:53 < kasc> i'll have to write a Klausur on friday and still have to learn
19:53 < daja77> good luck
19:54 < kasc> look like i will need lots of that...
19:54 < kasc> thx :)
19:58 < kasc> gnomemeeting still wont build :(
19:58 < daja77> why?
19:59 < kasc> `gm_[blah]' undeclared (first use in this function) <-- and many of those
19:59 < daja77> urgs
19:59 < kasc> stock-icons.c: In function `gnomemeeting_stock_icons_init':
19:59 < kasc> stock-icons.c:54: `gm_ils_directory_stock_data' undeclared (first use in this function)
20:00 < ^wolf^> can i build 1.7 without exim? i'd rather install postfix later myself
20:00 < daja77> sounds like a missing header file
20:00 < daja77> ^wolf^: just choose postfix as default mailer
20:00 < kasc> ^wolf^: sure. just disable it
20:00 < ^wolf^> is there a postfix package?
20:00 < ^wolf^> i didnt see one
20:01 < daja77> there is one
20:01 < ^wolf^> its not in the file "packages"
20:01 < ^wolf^> hm
20:01 < ^wolf^> how would i add it?
20:02 < daja77> if you had a recent CVS it should already be on your hd
20:02 < ^wolf^> k, let me rerun that cvs thing
20:03 < ^wolf^> i add O exim in pkgsel, right?
20:03 < kasc> daja77: besides in the faulty .c file the undeclared string only appears in Makefiles :/
20:03 < daja77> postfix2.0.6  alessandro It is an alternative to the widely-used Sendmail program.
20:04 < daja77> grabbed from website
20:04 < daja77> kasc: ???
20:05 < kasc> eg gm_ils_directory_stock_data is only in stock-icons.c, pixmaps/Makefile(.in|.am|)
20:06 * daja77 hates autoconf
20:14 < ^wolf^> after that cvs command nothing really happens ...
20:14 < daja77> ^wolf^: choose postfix as default mailer in Config
20:15 < ^wolf^> daja77: my config doesnt offer that yet
20:15 < ^wolf^> only exim in there
20:15 < ^wolf^> so i am re-running cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@clifford.homedns.org:/home/cvs co -P rock-src-1.7
20:15 < ^wolf^> ah, now something happens
20:22 < ^wolf^> still no postfix to choose in MTA
20:22 < daja77> yipeeh, my slashdot submission is set to accepted
20:22 < ^wolf^> only exim
20:22 < ^wolf^> i put O exim and X postfix in pkgsel tho
20:24 < daja77> (X) Use sendmail (8.12.8) as standard MTA
20:24 < ^wolf^> i dont have that
20:24 < daja77> 	( ) Use nullmailer (1.00RC5) as standard MTA                                      				( ) Use exim (4.12) as standard MTA                                               				( ) Use postfix (2.0.6) as standard MTA                                           				( ) Do not configure a default MTA
20:25 < ^wolf^> should i delete something and re-run that cvs line?
20:26 < daja77> from Config of the latest snapshot
20:26 < daja77> yes
20:26 < ^wolf^> and _what_ should i delete?
20:26 < daja77> everything
20:26 < ^wolf^> great
20:26 < daja77> you can keep downloads somewhere else
20:26 < ^wolf^> including more than 500 MB of sources?
20:26 < ^wolf^> very funny
20:27 < ^wolf^> okay i move the downoad folder then
20:27 < ^wolf^> download even
20:27 < daja77> just mv download somewhere else and mv it back afterwards
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20:40 < rxr> hi
20:40 < ^wolf^> hi rxr
20:40 < rxr> h iwo
20:41 < rxr> erghs
20:41 < rxr> hi ^wolf^
20:41 < rxr> ;-)
20:41 < ^wolf^> ;)
20:41 < daja77> hi rxr
20:41 < rxr> after 10 hours at univesity my fingers seem to be a bit lame ...
20:41 < rxr> hi all
20:42 < tsa> rxr:
20:42 < tsa> 7 download/base/psutils/psutils-p17.tar.bz2 ftp://drocklinux.dyndns.org/software/psutils/psutils-p17.tar.bz2
20:43 < tsa> download still failing - can you put the file there again?
20:48 < rxr> jups - I wanted some days ago - but I was not able to reconstruct the data on the faulty IBM disc
20:48 < rxr> I'll now use my copy on this box.-
20:48 < rxr> thanks for the reminder ;-)
20:48 < tsa> no problem
20:49 < daja77> are there known bugs in stone in connection with grub install?
20:51 < kasc> hi rxr
20:52 < rxr> daja77: yes
20:52 < rxr> the if /boot is an own partition it is not handled correctly ...
20:52 < daja77> it wasn't
20:53 < daja77> well I'll redo yesterday's install and look what happens
20:54 < ^wolf^> i re-ran the cvs thing, and it still doesnt show me postfix as an MTA choice
20:54 < ^wolf^> only exim
20:55 < daja77> did you get any errors while doin this
20:55 < ^wolf^> no
20:59 < ^wolf^> okay now i saw postfix
21:04 < daja77> *rofl* http://www.freebsddiary.org/fretbsd.php
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21:06 < tcr> re all
21:06 < daja77> hi tcr
21:06 < kasc> hi tcr
21:07 < tcr> hi daja77. What's up to the acc?
21:08 < daja77> well it seems that the machine that blocked our action yesterday doesn't like, so I'll switch back to the other one and give you access
21:08 < daja77> gimme some time to arrange that
21:08 < tcr> fine with that
21:10 < rxr> tsa: could you test if you get the file?
21:11 < tcr> rxr: Hmm. a new version of evolution has been released today...
21:11 < tcr> Aren't you the maintainer?
21:13 < tsa> rxr: mompl
21:13 < tsa> curl: (7) Connect failed
21:13 < tsa> httpd down?
21:14 < rxr> no it is in miguel's repository ...
21:14 < rxr> tsa: hm ?!?
21:15 < tsa> arghs
21:15 < tsa> $ dnsip drocklinux.dyndns.org
21:15 < tsa> 192.168.1.44
21:15 < rxr> arhs ....
21:15 < rxr> I see it too
21:15 < rxr> incorrect
21:15 < tsa> it won't work this way, i guess ;-)
21:16 < rxr> jups
21:16 < rxr> hm shit I know where this came from - but strange that the correct IP has not yet been propagated ... :-(
21:17 < tsa> the dyndns nameserver also have that one.
21:18 < rxr> jups I booted from the corrupted hd some days ago here (at home) - I forgot the there was some cronjob updating the dyndns entry
21:18 < rxr> but this only shows that my real server is also not updating it correctly
21:18 * rxr already ssh'ed
21:23 < tsa> aah!
21:23 < rxr> ;-)
21:23 < tsa> cksum-test (bzip2): download/base/psutils/psutils-p17.tar.bz2
21:23 < tsa> ok.
21:24 < rxr> ack
21:24 < rxr> maybe I should use the dyndns name (from the time when this box was located here at home) more oftern
21:24 < rxr> I usually use the official name gsmp.tfh-berlin.de ...
21:25 < rxr> hm - the box has no ROCK 2.0 /var/log rotator:
21:25 < rxr> 60M Apr  1 19:38 messages
21:25 < daja77> tcr: I don't get sshd running on that machine
21:25 < rxr> 56M Apr  1 19:37 warn
21:25 < tcr> Hrrm...
21:26 < tcr> Ok
21:26 < daja77> it tells me that it cannot found the host keys but they are there
21:27 < tsa> compare hostkey locations in sshd_config and the sshd init script
21:29 < daja77> they are the same, and it doesn't work if start sshd manually
21:33 < daja77> this really annoying
21:43 < daja77> strange, strace showed that sshd gets a ENOENT for open() but the files are present
21:53 < rxr> Yeahhhhh!
21:53 < rxr> I just received the source for the "binary-only" Linux driver of my WLAN card!!!!!
21:53 < rxr> (also the license is yet unknown ...)
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21:54 < demian> hi
21:56 < rxr> hm - contains a binary only .o file ... :-(
21:57 < tcr> desassemble ;)
21:58 < huebi> Moin
21:58 < huebi> rxr: WLAN with TI chip set (22MBit)?
21:58 < tsa> huebi!
21:58 < tsa> moin.
21:58 < demian> hi huebi
21:58 < huebi> tsa: Moin :-)
21:58 < huebi> hi demian
21:59 < rxr> no with ADM-Tech
21:59 < rxr> ADM8211
21:59 < rxr> hi huebi  !
22:00 < huebi> hi rxr
22:00 < demian> :)
22:00 < demian> cya
22:00 < rxr> huebi: how are you ?
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22:01 < huebi> rxr: Tired :-) Much work and only small money for it...
22:01 < rxr> wasn't it running well last year ?
22:02 < tsa> huebi: i'm still awaiting your invoice for the IBM crt...
22:02 < huebi> tsa: Arghh. Thanks for the hint.
22:02 < huebi> rxr: No, not as good as I had planned it.
22:02 < ^wolf^> Downloading download/praenti/ddd/ddd-3.3.1.tar.gz ...
22:02 < ^wolf^> Finished downloading 0 bytes in 0.217 seconds (0.000 bytes/sec).
22:02 < ^wolf^> curl: (22) The requested file was not found
22:03 < ^wolf^> whats wrong with those?
22:03 < tsa> hm..
22:03 < rxr> ^wolf^: the remote file might just have moved ...
22:04 < rxr> huebi: hm
22:04 < tsa> Downloading download/praenti/ddd/ddd-3.3.1.tar.gz ...
22:04 < tsa> INFO: Found src/Download-Mirror: none (use the original download locations)
22:04 < tsa> INFO: To force a new mirror auto-detection, remove src/Download-Mirror.
22:04 < tsa> #################                                                         23.9%
22:04 < rxr> "objdump -d ADM_Prv.o" is my friend ;-) *lol*
22:04 < tsa> the file is tehre
22:04 < rxr> tsa: ah ok - then he is using a mirror wich hasn't got the file yet ...
22:04 < tsa> probably
22:05 < ^wolf^> it picked the fastest mirror ... ftp.leo.org
22:05 < ^wolf^> which one is better?
22:05 < tsa> ^wolf^: the ddd package was introduced just a few days ago, so the mirror doesn't have it (yet).
22:05 < rxr> ^wolf^: for using just added packages "none" as mirror is needed - since they need some time to catch up ;-) ...
22:05 < ^wolf^> sigh
22:06 < daja77> esden: ping
22:06 < tsa> just wait for your downloads to finish, them remove src/Download-Errors and re-run scripts/Download without a mirror
22:06 < ^wolf^> i c
22:06 < tsa> downloading all the sources takes up ages, anyway ;)
22:06 < ^wolf^> i noticed that
22:07 < tcr> moin huebi!
22:07 < huebi> tcr: hi|
22:07 < tsa> esden: you already wanted to fix this one:
22:07 < tsa> Downloading download/esden/povray35/povuni_s-3.5.tgz ...
22:07 < tsa> ERROR: Found download/esden/povray35/povuni_s-3.5.tgz.cksum-err.
22:08 < daja77> hi huebi
22:08 < huebi> huhu daja77
22:08 < daja77> hehe
22:09 < daja77> *sigh* well the story finally made it to slashdot, but everybody is annoyed cos one joke was posted 4 times today :(
22:09 * daja77 phone
22:10 < tsa> daja77: which one?
22:10 < tsa> i can't see anything on /.
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22:33 * rxr swithcing off - cu tomorrow
22:34 < ^wolf^> n8 rxr
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22:41 < ringo78_> anyone know why xaw3d patch did not succeed ?
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22:42 < ringo78_> Hi Ge0rG
22:42 < Ge0rG> hi :)
22:44 < daja77> re
22:44 < daja77> tsa: the first
22:45 < daja77> ok it is the second now that about gnomemeeting
22:46 < daja77> that was the base for the tcpa-patch mail from esden
22:49 < kasc> daja77: wanna help me get gnomemeeting to work? :)
22:50 < kasc> i have two different versions failing at different points...
22:50 < daja77> kasc: if I'm able to
22:50 < daja77> ok which points
22:51 < kasc> i told you of the first one already. The second fails with a parse error
22:51 < daja77> uhh
22:51 < kasc> which sounds easyier to solve? :)
22:51 < daja77> tell me about the parse error
22:52 < kasc> In file included from endpoint.h:35,
22:52 < kasc>                  from gnomemeeting.h:37,
22:52 < kasc>                  from callbacks.cpp:34:
22:52 < kasc> gdkvideoio.h:47: parse error before `{' token
22:52 < kasc> thats the 2003-04-01 snapshot
22:52 < daja77> any missing semicolons
22:53 < kasc> class GDKVideoOutputDevice : public PVideoOutputDeviceRGB
22:53 < kasc> {
22:53 < kasc>   PCLASSINFO(GDKVideoOutputDevice, PVideoOutputDeviceRGB);
22:54 < daja77> fsck c++
22:54 * kasc is still going to learn c++... next semester ;)
22:54 < daja77> :)
22:55 < daja77> can you mail me the whole file
22:55 < kasc> sure
22:55 < kasc> where to?
22:55 < daja77> daniel@lospalmos.net
22:56 < daja77> kasc: btw, have you tried printing again?
22:56 < kasc> yep, works now
22:56 < daja77> was it the ghostscript version?
22:57 < kasc> uhh... havent tried to print a pdf|ps again...
22:57 < kasc> the last thing was something from within opera
22:57 < daja77> ah ok :)
22:59 < kasc> did the mail reach you, yet?
22:59 < daja77> yes
22:59 < kasc> good :)
23:04 < tcr> rxr: mike won't come in the next time, could you update evolution please? (it fixes some sec vuln's, so it might be really of matter)
23:04 < tsa> arrrrrgh
23:04 < tsa> http://gwget.sourceforge.net/
23:04 < tcr> oh, he did already go
23:04 < tsa> stuff no one needs.
23:04 < tsa> *sigh*
23:05 < daja77> *rofl*
23:05 < daja77> the did already have a wget frontent in Gnome 1.x
23:05 < tsa> a graphical frontend for wget.
23:05 < tsa> very useful.
23:05 < daja77> yes
23:05 < tsa> (i already discovered Krename a few days ago)
23:06 < tcr> Why not
23:06 < tsa> you won't guess what it's for..
23:06 < daja77> wget itself hasn't proofed to be useful
23:07 < kasc> tsa: it renames itself to whatever you want it to be called?
23:07 < tsa> not quite. ;)
23:07 < kasc> *damn* ;)
23:10 < daja77> kasc: well my c++ is very bad but try to put the { two lines lower
23:11 < kasc> with just empty lines in between?
23:12 < tsa> time to code GTKls
23:12 < tsa> ;)
23:13 < kasc> tsa: whatabout a directfb featured sleep?
23:13 < kasc> daja77: still the same
23:14 < tsa> kasc: lol.
23:14 < daja77> kasc: this looks like java code, I have seen such things in C++ (maybe because I mainly write in C)
23:15 < kasc> hmm... the next few lines in the error message somewhat look like they could be meant as an explaination...
23:16 < daja77> wait I found some more docs on c++
23:16 < ringo78_> I yearn to program something in c it writes so lovely.
23:16 < kasc> gdkvideoio.h:49: parse error before `{' token
23:16 < kasc> gdkvideoio.h:50: virtual outside class declaration
23:16 < kasc> gdkvideoio.h:50: non-member function `const char* GetClass(unsigned int)'
23:16 < kasc>    cannot have `const' method qualifier
23:16 < kasc> gdkvideoio.h: In function `const char* GetClass(unsigned int)':
23:16 < kasc> gdkvideoio.h:50: `PVideoOutputDeviceRGB' undeclared (first use this function)
23:16 < kasc> gdkvideoio.h:50: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each
23:16 < kasc>    function it appears in.)
23:16 < tcr> OpenSSH 3.6.1 released April 1, 2003.
23:17 < tcr> Is that already updated in rock?
23:17 < daja77> tcr: I hope this is not a joke like enlightment 1.0
23:17 < tcr> No it isnt
23:18 < ringo78_> what aer you trying to compile ?
23:18 < kasc> ringo78_: gnomemeeting
23:19 < tcr> ok, ppl.. going sleeping now
23:19 < tcr> gn8 all
23:19 < daja77> kasc: it I can be no help today
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23:19 < daja77> it seems even
23:20 < kasc> this error is from gnomemeeting-2003-04-01. I also have gnomemeeting-0.96.1 sources here failing at some other point
23:20 < kasc> daja77: thx anyways :)
23:20 < daja77> it is strange that they put something before the public: keyword
23:21 < daja77> kasc: I can't remember that other error
23:21 < kasc> stock-icons.c: In function `gnomemeeting_stock_icons_init':
23:21 < kasc> stock-icons.c:54: `gm_ils_directory_stock_data' undeclared (first use in this function)
23:22 < kasc> with gm_*_stock_data only appearing in that file and in Makefiles
23:23 * daja77 fetches his Gnome Programmers Handbook
23:26 < ringo78_> ahh no gnome 2 yet ... sawfish also gives me headaches.. C++ you all bye.
23:26 < daja77> we apologize for the inconvience
23:27 < kasc> ah, looks like i found that one
23:28 < kasc> a header file was corrupted
23:28 < kasc> empty, that is
23:28 < daja77> *aaargh*
23:28 * daja77 is putting away the book
23:29 < kasc> i just took the one from the other sourcetree... hope it works ;) *crosses fingers*
23:29 < daja77> ...
23:33 < kasc> seems to work...
23:33 < daja77> congrats
23:33 < kasc> thx :)
23:36 < daja77> well, I think I'll leave now
23:37 < kasc> sleep well then
23:37 < daja77> thx gn8
23:37 < kasc> gn8
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23:44 < A-Tui> hi all!
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23:54 < demian> re
23:57 < ^wolf^> gn8 every1
23:58 < demian> n8
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23:59 < kasc> gn8 all
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23:59 < demian> cya 2
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