--- Log opened Thu Apr 03 00:00:03 2003
--- Day changed Thu Apr 03 2003
00:00 < rxr> ;-)
00:03 < esden> ha now pango creates pangoft2 !
00:04 < esden> YESS
00:04 < esden> ok ... gimp still needs libart
00:05 < esden> libart_lgpl23 o_O what a strange name
00:06 < esden> rxr: you have an error in libart_lgpl23.conf ... there is one asterisk too much
00:07 < rxr> oh really ?
00:07 < esden> yups
00:07 < rxr> fixed
00:07 < esden> good ;-)
00:08 < esden> rxr: was gimpprint not removed as dependancy of gimp ?
00:09 < rxr> hm?
00:10 < rxr> from the vanilla gimp?
00:10 < esden> I thought that there was a patch in the mailinglist that removed dependancy of gimp14 to gimp-print44
00:10 < esden> genppd.c:67:23: cups/cups.h: No such file or directory 
00:10 < esden> >_<
00:11 < rxr> hm - no IIRC
00:11 < esden> do I have to install cups to get gimp compile ?
00:11 < rxr> esden: hm - I enable CUPS hardcoded in the .conf (IIRC) - maybe I should change this ... ;-)
00:12 < esden> yes please make it an option in scripts/Config enabled as default
00:12 < rxr> hm - no I do not enable it ...
00:13 < rxr> esden: NO - even if I would have hardcoded it - please no more useless and stupid options showing up in Config
00:13 < rxr> a [ -e /usr/lib/libcups.so ] && confopt="$confopt --enable-cups" is more then sufficiant
00:14 < esden> yes right
00:14 < rxr> who should got throught all the options and select the right flags ???
00:14 < rxr> but it is not hardcoded ;-)
00:14 < rxr> esden: mabye the configure is not working correctly ...
00:14 < esden> yes I see it ... >_<
00:15 < esden> checking for cups-config... no
00:15 < esden> *sigh*
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00:16 < A-Tui> hi guys
00:16 < esden> hi A-Tui
00:16 < A-Tui> hi esden
00:16 < esden> rxr: the gimp in package gimp14 is called gimp-1.3.13 ... why?
00:23 < esden> rxr: sorry ... it was gimp-print44 that has problems to compile when cups is not avalable
00:24 < esden> I have added confopt="$confopt --without-cups" in gimp-print44.conf as a quickfix
00:24 < esden> but it does not help >_<
00:26 < rxr> the gimp binary in gimp14 is named gimp-1.3.13 because there is not yet a stable release called 1.4.s.th. ...
00:27 < rxr> we name the package like the targetted stable version - otherwise you would get shared files when the stable 1.4.0 release is out ...
00:27 < rxr> and we would have package renames all the time ...
00:27 < esden> yes right
00:28 < rxr> I have no time to investigate gimp problem now - I can plan this for the weekend ...
00:29 < rxr> what really bugs me is that the gcc-3.3 prerelease is not able to yield a usefull cross compiler
00:29 < rxr> this needs to be fixed as soon a possible ...
00:29 * rxr need to go to bed now ...
00:29 < rxr> cu you all tomorrow
00:29 < esden> night rxr 
00:30 < Mike1> n8 Ren
00:30 < esden> ok ... it seems that I fixed the gimpprint problem
00:31 < Mike1> esden: Good.
00:31 < esden> ok one more try to compile gimp14
00:31 < rxr> ;-) feel free to drop me a mail about the modification you made ...
00:32 < rxr> n8 all
00:32 < rxr> exit
00:32 < rxr> oops ;-)
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00:34 < esden> grrr this stupid gimp ... it is tryes to use gimpprint-config instead of pkg-config >_<
00:34 * -> esden wants to destroy something
00:37 < esden> ok ... now I have disabled print ... let's see if it helps
00:38 < esden> YESSSS! configure runs through !!!!
00:38 < esden> WEEE
00:39 < esden> that is terrible ... gimp in rocklinux depends on cups ... *headshake* it will probably not start if cups is not there ... 
00:40 * Mike1 laughts
00:47 < esden> gimp still compiling ... 
00:47 * Mike1 still laughtinh
00:47 < Mike1> laughting*
00:50 < esden> do not lough !
00:50 < esden> it is _NOT_ funny
00:53 < A-Tui> re
00:53 < esden> re A-Tui 
00:53 < A-Tui> esden,so you have problems?
00:53 < A-Tui> esden,do you have problems?
00:54 < esden> I think I have finally resolved them ... in some way
00:54 < esden> I hacked them away ;-)
00:54 < A-Tui> :)
00:54 < esden> but that are BAD hacks
00:56 < esden> there is something about mary ...
00:57 < esden> cameron diaz rulez ;-)
00:57 < A-Tui> XD
00:57 < A-Tui> good girlz!
00:57 < A-Tui> here there is a report about croatia war
00:58 < esden> where? .. there is always somewhere a report ...
00:59 < A-Tui> yes, this is about a spanish war report, who was in libano, croatia etc...
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06:49 < blindcoder> moin
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09:22 < _NULL> *gr* morning
09:22 < blindcoder> moin
10:06 < kasc> moin
10:06 < _NULL> hi kasc
10:24 < _NULL> 1091 lines of source code... just for a _simple_ gui!!! fsck-C#!!
10:25 * kasc doesnt want to know haw many lines of assembler this would have taken...
10:25 < _NULL> (and the whole app in java (gui + implementation) is 279 lines...
10:26 < _NULL> *knurr*
10:26 < _NULL> H A T E!!!
10:32 < BOFH_org> Hello World\n;
10:33 < _NULL> hi BOFH_org
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10:34 < _NULL> IRC != c... so, no need for \n :P
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10:38 < BOFH_org> _NULL: lol
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11:05 < _NULL> hi tibit
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11:40 < _NULL> someone of the 1.5-team on?
11:41 < _NULL> huebi, maybe?
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11:51 < _NULL> BOFH_org: u're using the root-accout?!!!
11:54 < Lorini_> good mooooooooooooooooorning
11:54 < _NULL> hi Lorini_
11:55 < Lorini_> hi owl/NULL :)
11:55 < Lorini_> how are you?
11:55 < Lorini_> (brb)
11:55 < BOFH_org> _NULL: never trust indent
11:56 < _NULL> Lorini_: alive, i fear. thx. and you?
11:56 < _NULL> BOFH_org: oki
11:58 < _NULL> *grrr* fighting with rock-1.5 isn't fun! *complain*
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11:59 < _NULL> hi dreamind
12:00 < dreamind> Hi =)
12:08 < Lorini_> _NULL: i feel good ;)
12:10 < _NULL> good as in "the world is great"?
12:11 < _NULL> fascinating... one of our project managers is able to count to 9!!!
12:12 < blindcoder> _NULL: how's that?
12:12 < _NULL> blindcoder: hm?
12:13 < blindcoder> _NULL: how did you prove that?
12:14 < _NULL> he said: "1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9"
12:14 < Lorini_> hm. good = happy..
12:14 < blindcoder> _NULL: and why did he do that?
12:14 < _NULL> how does it come, Lorini_ ?
12:15 < _NULL> blindcoder: he tried to explain something to my coworker.
12:15 < blindcoder> _NULL: oh
12:20 < Lorini_> _NULL: mh. :) its only..  yesterday was a very great day for me
12:21 < _NULL> why this?
12:21 < Lorini_> query
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12:58 < daja77> moin
12:58 < _NULL> hi daja77
12:59 < daja77> hi _NULL *sigh*
12:59 < _NULL> daja77: what's wrong?!
12:59 < daja77> nothing
13:00 < _NULL> well, why are you "sighing" around here, then?
13:01 < daja77> just saw you changed the nick again :(
13:02 < _NULL> yeah. and? - what's the matter with it?
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13:04 < daja77> _NULL: nothing and I can sigh around as much as I like
13:04 < _NULL> *grrr*
13:04 < daja77> :P
13:05 < _NULL> i will never understand men...
13:05 < daja77> and I will never understand you
13:05 < _NULL> aha
13:06 < daja77> it's too complex for me
13:07 < _NULL> well. you're a man... so - almost everything is too complex for you
13:07 < daja77> *hmpf*
13:08 < daja77> btw, which part of men do you not understand
13:10 < _NULL> ever part of men
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13:11 < _NULL> +x
13:11 < _NULL> -x +y
13:12 < daja77> *rofl*
13:12 < _NULL> hm?
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13:13 < daja77> nothing, you are just confusing as hell
13:14 < _NULL> aha
13:16 < daja77> you might not have noticed it
13:17 < _NULL> gnaaaaaa.
13:18 < daja77> don't worry
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13:19 < _NULL> daja77: better look at this and tell me if you know what could be wrong: http://the-null.de.vu/rocklinux/rock-1.5/error-logs/3-rpm.err
13:22 < daja77> just checking, btw what do you need rpm for?
13:23 < _NULL> i'm building rock-1.5... and got an error... so... i want to fix it... if possible
13:23 < daja77> is this a new version of rpm?
13:23 < _NULL> yeah. it's the 4.1
13:24 < _NULL> on my system it builds without problems (many, many warnings, but no errors)... but in stage 3 it failes
13:24 < daja77> could be, that it is optimised for gcc-3.x
13:24 < _NULL> i have gcc-2.95.3 on my system (where it was building without problems)
13:25 < daja77> huh, you told me it produced an error
13:25 < _NULL> yeah... or just: it doesn't build.
13:26 < daja77> there are variables missing that start with PY_, seems there is a python wrapper missing
13:27 < _NULL> hrmpf.
13:27 < daja77> it is definitely the python part which broke
13:28 < daja77> rpmmodule.c:336: `PyObject' undeclared (first use in this function)
13:28 < _NULL> yeah... saw it... but the question is - why
13:28 < daja77> was the python build successful?
13:29 < _NULL> yeah...
13:29 < daja77> mom
13:32 < _NULL> but just after disabling a patch: http://the-null.de.vu/rocklinux/rock-1.5/CHANGELOG-OWL
13:34 < daja77> why did you disabled the patches
13:35 < _NULL> because they failed...?!
13:35 < daja77> hmmm
13:35 * daja77 download rpm-4.1 and will see if it builds on rh8
13:36 < _NULL> "The current release, RPM-4.1, shipped in Red Hat Linux 8.0, and has growing pains." << www.rpm.org O_o
13:37 < daja77> yeah, I've seen it, but this apllies to run time :)
13:37 < _NULL> jup... but i full agree with this text (and not just at runtime) *grml*
13:37 < daja77> my notypo patch failed too :(
13:38 < _NULL> *g*
13:39 < daja77> *gnarf* this borken nic on this machine gives me the creeps
13:40 < daja77> owl sing for me while I have to wait :)
13:40 < _NULL> *g* then you don't need to wait... cuz you would be killed by a singing owl *vbeg*
13:40 < daja77> fine :)
13:42 < daja77> on the other hand I can say hello to every single byte that arrives here
13:42 < _NULL> hehehe. nice ;)
13:43 < daja77> btw, the whole release RedHat 8 has growing pains
13:44 < _NULL> deathHat...
13:44 < daja77> deadrat :)
13:44 < _NULL> yeah. dead rat even ;)
13:45 < daja77> the pains grew that much I finally discovered rock :)
13:45 < _NULL> hehe ;) thx to redhat from me, then ;)
13:46 < daja77> *lol*
13:46 < daja77> you must understand, they want to compete with SuSE
13:46 < _NULL> suxe - i see. gpl-windows...
13:47 < daja77> das windows aus Nürnberg...
13:47 < _NULL> *g*
13:47 * _NULL got mail...
13:48 < daja77> damn cygnus
13:48 < _NULL> the 3rd mail of the day... the 3rd mail of the day with the content: "mail-server restart at XX o'clock" *cries*
13:48 < _NULL> cygnus?
13:49 < daja77> what, you haven't got an offer to buy a viagra bulk package?
13:49 < _NULL> daja77: at work? nope ;)
13:49 < _NULL> (we have a non-windows-firewall... imagine that... in this company)
13:49 * daja77 builds rpm-4.1
13:50 < daja77> _NULL: Cygnus are those idiot guys that ported linux command line tools to windows
13:50 < _NULL> heh, congrats... you finally got the bits, merged them together and now building? ! ;)
13:50 < _NULL> daja77: ah so...
13:50 < daja77> yepp :)
13:50 < daja77> they are the main reason why autoconf got that much bloated
13:51 < _NULL> hmmm... ok. :)
13:51 < daja77> rpm has been ported to cygnus O_o
13:51 < _NULL> cygwin, even, or am i wrong?
13:52 < daja77> yeah cygwin is the software, cygnus was the company (now owned by redhat
13:52 < daja77> )
13:52 < _NULL> ah. k.
13:53 < daja77> cygnus also worked on gcc
13:54 < _NULL> hm
13:55 < daja77> well if you liek to upgrade windows go for http://www.cygwin.com/
13:56 < _NULL> hm. already have it... just couldn't remember the name "cygnus"
13:56 < daja77> *g*
14:02 < daja77> no warnings so far with this build
14:02 < _NULL> no warnings?
14:02 < _NULL> i guess you're kidding?
14:03 < daja77> nope
14:03 < _NULL> gnaaaaaa! which compiler do you have?
14:03 < daja77> gcc version 3.2 20020903 (Red Hat Linux 8.0 3.2-7)
14:04 < _NULL> hmpf
14:05 < _NULL> let's try it with gcc-3.2.1 here...
14:05 < daja77> the build hasn't finished yet
14:06 < _NULL> hm. how long did you already build ? and on which processor?
14:07 < daja77> sorry haven't looked at the clock, P4 1400Mhz
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14:07 < _NULL> hm. k.
14:13 < _NULL> waaah! gcc-3.2.1 (non-redhat-'gcc') is killing me with thousands of warnings (more than with gcc-2.95.3)
14:13 < daja77> ???
14:14 < _NULL> i got many warnings. much more than with gcc-2.95.3...
14:14 < _NULL> (if compiling rpm-4.1 with gcc-3.2.1)
14:14 < daja77> warning compiling what?
14:14 < _NULL> rpm-4.1
14:14 < daja77> what warnings
14:15 < _NULL> db_server.h:1000: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype
14:15 < _NULL> such warnings...
14:15 < daja77> build dinished
14:16 < daja77> damn
14:16 < _NULL> *g* your 'notypos' app still doesn't work
14:16 < daja77> nope, compiled it with an experimental gcc *g*
14:17 < _NULL> hrm
14:18 < daja77> *lol* /home/jahre/rpm-4.1/rpmdb/rpmdb.c:1456: Warning: The following parameters of dbiFindByLabel(dbiIndex dbi, DBC *dbcursor, DBT *key, DBT *data, const char *arg, dbiIndexSet *matches) are not documented:
14:18 < daja77>   parameter matches
14:19 < daja77> tons of that not documented warnings
14:19 < _NULL> warning: function declaration isn't a prototype
14:20 < _NULL> ^^tons of this
14:21 < daja77> omg, they still got that one, rpmchecksig.c:349: the use of `mktemp' is dangerous, better use `mkstemp'
14:22 < daja77> _NULL: don't care look if the compilation stops due an error
14:22 < _NULL> i know
14:22 < daja77> godd :)
14:22 < daja77> damn again
14:23 < _NULL> yeah. call me god ;P
14:23 < daja77> no not you!
14:24 < _NULL> why not?
14:24 < _NULL> god of chaos or so *vbeg*
14:24 < daja77> I'd kill myself if you are the one in charge
14:24 * blindcoder opens the window for daja77 
14:24 < _NULL> hahaha!
14:25 < daja77> blindcoder: don't tell me it's true
14:25 < _NULL> it is... :P
14:25 < _NULL> (don't say anything wrong, blindy)
14:25 * daja77 jumps
14:26 * blindcoder shouting after the falling daja77: NO! I LIED!
14:26 * _NULL taking a sword and killing blindcoder with it!!!
14:27 * daja77 laughs shakingly
14:27 < blindcoder> MUAHAHAHA!
14:27 * blindcoder laughs at owl
14:27 < _NULL> dead guys can't laugh. didn't your mothers taught you that fact ?
14:28 < daja77> _NULL: no, teach me :P
14:28 < _NULL> daja77: so. as i already said, boy - dead people are not able to laugh
14:28 < daja77> _NULL: don't believe it
14:29 < _NULL> daja77: hm. wanna see it?
14:29 < daja77> yeah
14:29 < _NULL> if yes, then: take a knive, cut your venes and die...
14:29 < blindcoder> I don't believe anything owl says :D
14:29 < daja77> _NULL: have no knife here
14:29 < _NULL> razor blades also works
14:30 * blindcoder has a knife here that is long enough to cut through his arm
14:30 < daja77> _NULL: don't have that too, I'm at work
14:30 < _NULL> urgs. that suckz...
14:30 < daja77> blindcoder: /me don't believe owl, no news I guess
14:30 < _NULL> pfff.
14:31 * blindcoder holds knife agains arm... yes... would come out on the other side
14:31 < _NULL> note to self: those guys are evil
14:31 < _NULL> aehm. blindy! *knocking blindy down*
14:32 < daja77> _NULL: your are evil
14:32 * blindcoder drops the knife, falls to ground, knife cuts into heart
14:32 < daja77> blindcoder: please laugh for me
14:33 * blindcoder laughs cause he's finally managed to die
14:33 < daja77> _NULL: you see
14:33 < _NULL> aeh. the heart is inside the arm? aha... "biology taught by blindy"
14:34 < daja77> _NULL: please let us not talk about biology, some bad memories are connected with it
14:35 < blindcoder> _NULL: no, but the knife drops to the ground bounes off a bit and I fall onto it, stupid
14:36 < _NULL> blindcoder: ok...
14:36 < daja77> blindcoder: you'll get nominated for this year's Darwin Awards
14:36 < blindcoder> daja77: I don't really care...
14:37 < daja77> of course not
14:37 < daja77> the winner is alread dead
14:37 * daja77 bites in his right hand
14:38 < _NULL> *g*
14:38 < daja77> the other one hurts already
14:38 * _NULL np: blutengel - i'm dying alone *hrm*
14:38 < daja77> _NULL: i c you don't know good music
14:39 < _NULL> daja77: i know _very good_ music
14:39 < daja77> then listen to it
14:39 < _NULL> i'm already doing
14:39 < daja77> *shaking my head*
14:41 * blindcoder listening to Aniverse Radio
14:41 < daja77> wtf is that?
14:43 < blindcoder> http://lime.aniverse.com:3000
14:44 < blindcoder> Anime Universe Radio :)
14:44 < blindcoder> short: Aniverse :)
14:45 < daja77> japanese music
14:48 < BOFH_org> Animositisomina...
14:48 < daja77> hi BOFH_org
14:48 < BOFH_org> hey daja77
14:49 < daja77> :)
14:50 < daja77> BOFH_org: how is life?
14:50 < BOFH_org> sucks as usual
14:50 < BOFH_org> I'm in state of war w/ postgresql
14:51 < daja77> BOFH_org: hehe, how many luser have been killed by you?
14:51 < daja77> BOFH_org: tell me more
14:51 < BOFH_org> I'm trying to write a mozilla-addressbook plugin that can handle odbc connections.... and that doesn't work (yet)
14:52 < daja77> oh you are working on postgres code base :(
14:55 < daja77> *rofl* the comments on http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/04/02/239224&mode=thread&tid=117&tid=109
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14:57 < dreamind> Hi
14:58 < daja77> hi dreamind
14:58 < dreamind> Hi daja77
14:59 < daja77> in response to Larry Ellison someone says: Never trust someone who falls on his arse for a living *rolf*
15:00 < daja77> dreamind: how are you?
15:01 * daja77 just wishes to meet someone here who is not fed up with life
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15:03 < dreamind> daja77: quite annoyed about bad users submitting bugs without their email!
15:03 < dreamind> .oO( lart them, lart them! )
15:03 < daja77> dreamind: explain
15:04 < dreamind> daja77: I'm the maintainer of Oroborus, a small windowmanager.
15:04 < daja77> url?
15:04 < dreamind> and I have a project page set up at savannah, where some bad user submitted several bugs without entering his email.
15:04 < dreamind> www.oroborus.org
15:04 < daja77> dumbass
15:05 < dreamind> hm I think I'll close the bugs.
15:05 < daja77> page is hard to read
15:05 < dreamind> maybe he learns from that
15:05 < daja77> yeah
15:05 < dreamind> then install or select a better "sans-serif" font
15:06 < daja77> not on this machine
15:06 < dreamind> because oroborus.org uses either Nimbus Sans L (Free font, very nice) or a sans-serif font
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15:06 < daja77> wb blindcoder
15:06 < blindcoder> re
15:07 < daja77> blindcoder: your name on apollo is crash *g*
15:07 < blindcoder> daja77: yes :) crash@apollo :D
15:07 < daja77> dreamind: *rofl* why that big trashcan on screenshot 1
15:10 < daja77> dreamind: is this just another wm for gnome?
15:20 < dreamind> no. this is Oroborus, a totally gnome-independent WM
15:20 < dreamind> but it _CAN_ be used with gnome.
15:20 < dreamind> and because gnome looks nice I used it for my machine ;)
15:21 < dreamind> the biggest point is, that Oroborus is only some KB in size.
15:21 < dreamind> 76K	/usr/bin/oroborus
15:21 < dreamind> (on ppc)
15:21 < daja77> dreamind: linked against dietlibc?
15:22 < dreamind> no. its linked against libc6 and x11
15:22 < dreamind> but nothing more.
15:22 < dreamind> (no bloated gtk, no mega bloated qt and so on ;)
15:22 < daja77> hehe
15:23 < dreamind> you have to know that, what has a WM to do, it has to render the window border, and it has to react on the mouse pointer (focus follows mouse) and it has to have nice keyboard bindings (of course all configurable, not only the keyboard bindings).
15:23 < dreamind> for what of that do you need gtk or qt?
15:24 < blindcoder> for _pretty_ borders :)
15:24 < blindcoder> I mean... even evilWM has borders...
15:24 < dreamind> blindcoder: nope. XPM is the thing.
15:24 < dreamind> and Xft support can be done without qt or gtk ;)
15:25 < dreamind> so no need for that
15:25 < blindcoder> dunthave to tell me, I'm using iceWM
15:25 < dreamind> hm icewm ;) *grin*
15:26 < dreamind> well seems I always find out bad things with other WM's, maybe thats the point why I first started to use Oroborus and then took over development ;)
15:26 < blindcoder> hehe
15:27 < dreamind> I first used E, then I switched over to several other wms (which I used only for a very short ammount of time) and after that, Oroborus ;)
15:27 < blindcoder> hmm...  I used KDE (for the first two days of my Linux-Carrer :D)
15:27 < blindcoder> then I switched to iceWM
15:27 < daja77> dreamind: then tell me what is so exiting about oroborus
15:27 < blindcoder> and got stuck there :)
15:30 * daja77 got stuck with blackbox and GNOME sometimes
15:31 < dreamind> well its simply small, leightweight and it has a good default setup (nice keybindings and so on)
15:31 < dreamind> and you can move and resize windows by _keyboard_
15:31 * blindcoder presses Ctrl+Alt+Space and the active window is maximized (with Xinerame support)
15:31 < blindcoder> that's all the resizing I need :)
15:32 < dreamind> and it does some nice things, like for example, when you use focus follows mouse, it warps the mouse pointer to the "active" window, when switching the window by keyboard.
15:32 < rolla> re
15:32 < dreamind> and so on...
15:32 * Mike1 greets all.
15:32 < daja77> re rolla, Mike1
15:33 < blindcoder> dreamind: I hope one can eactivate that "feature"
15:33 < blindcoder> deactivate even...
15:33 * blindcoder phone... brb
15:33 < dreamind> blindcoder: yup
15:34 < blindcoder> back
15:34 < blindcoder> good :)
15:34 < blindcoder> I'd be pretty lost if I had to search my pointer each time I use my mous (which is rare enough :)
15:36 < dreamind> well, thats not the hard point.
15:36 < dreamind> and you really fast get used to that.
15:36 < dreamind> and you have the improvement that you have shorter ways for your mouse.
15:37 < dreamind> (mostly you want to do something in the active window)
15:37 < blindcoder> he, I have two 1280x1024 monitors...
15:37 < blindcoder> and only a handful of non-console apps
15:37 < dreamind> well I have 2 1600x1200 monitors
15:38 < blindcoder> busted...
15:39 < dreamind> maybe also because of that I prefer that windows appear centered under the mouse
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17:10 < _NULL> cu later
17:14 * BOFH_org is away: unzip;strip;touch;finger;mount;fsck;more;yes;fsck;umount;sleep
17:26 < rolla> _NULL: :)
17:28 -!- rolla [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit ("leaving")
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17:29 -!- maisenhe is now known as rolla
17:29 < daja77> rolla: ?
17:29 < rolla> ja
17:30 < daja77> nothing, I was just wondering
17:30 < rolla> :)
17:31 < rolla> had to fix a restircted connection
17:31 < daja77> :)
17:32 < esden> hi all
17:32 < daja77> hi esden
17:33 < esden> urgh my gimp is eating 61MB ram ...
17:33 < Mike1> Gott segne dich esden
17:33 < esden> but I think that can become more
17:33 < rolla> :)
17:33 < esden> bless you Mike1 
17:33 < esden> drawing is fun ;-)
17:33 < rolla> :)
17:34 * rolla is just enjoying having his linux box back
17:35 -!- fede2 [~fede2@fuerzag.ulatina.ac.cr] has joined #rocklinux
17:35 < daja77> esden: go for http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/tuxpaint/
17:36 < fede2> Anyone from the sparc rocklinux crew?
17:36 < rolla> fede2: good luck
17:37 < Mike1> fede2: greetings, what do you need?
17:37 < fede2> Mike1: Is there a 64bit userland howto (or tarball, or whatever) available?
17:38 < Mike1> fede2: generic or for rock?
17:38 < fede2> Mike1: I don't care if it is not stable at all. I'll just need that userland for about 20 minutes :)
17:38 < fede2> (need to translate some ioctls...)
17:38 < Mike1> mm...
17:38 < fede2> Mike1: 'dont't care. Either one will be fine.
17:39 < Mike1> fede2: you can simple fetch the 1.7 cvs and build a the sparc port target
17:39 < Mike1> it won't be that hard, ther eis also the fact that i asume you won't need x
17:39 < Mike1> docs on sparc 64 userland can be found on the ROCK Linux Guide v2
17:39 < fede2> Mike1: Nahh. Just a compiler.
17:39 < Mike1> let me get the url for you
17:40 < fede2> Mike1: thanks.
17:41 < Mike1> fede2: http://www.rocklinux.org/people/pjotr/guide.download/html/
17:42 < Mike1> fede2: a crossbuild is also possible in case you need a very basic system.
17:43 < Mike1> Wee!! i think i have managed to solve all the problems for the router target.
17:43 < Mike1> daja77: rolla we shall have an iso by the end of the day
17:43 < blindcoder> i hate this...
17:44 < Mike1> blindcoder: what?
17:44 < blindcoder> i hate this stupid customer
17:44 < daja77> Mike1: you mean router target
17:44 < blindcoder> I'm at work for almost 12 hours now
17:44 < Mike1> blindcoder: you are stuck at hell desk again?
17:44 < Mike1> daja77: yes router target.
17:44 < blindcoder> just because that fucking customer calls once in three hours and I'm the only one who can think long enough (5 minutes at a time) to fix the problem again... and again... and again...
17:45 < blindcoder> and that same thing tomorrow again...
17:45 < blindcoder> as it was the last three days...
17:45 < blindcoder> i so hate it...
17:45 < Mike1> daja77: the router target is currently a merge of my target and cliffs ideas, but i found several build problems which i think (hope) are fixed now. :)
17:45 < daja77> blindcoder: shoot him
17:46 < blindcoder> there's nothing worse than incompetent co-workers..
17:46 < Mike1> blindcoder: a shootgun is the best solution :)
17:46 < Lorini> hey mike :)
17:46 < Mike1> blindcoder: you could also hire daja77
17:46 < blindcoder> Mike1, daja77: I'm seriously considering this ATM
17:46 < Mike1> hi Andi :)
17:46 < Lorini> :)
17:46 < blindcoder> Mike1: I have a knife here long and sharp enough to come out at the other end again...
17:47 < Mike1> blindy hehe :)
17:47 * blindcoder considers karoushi by seppuku...
17:48 < Mike1> :)
17:49 < esden> daja77: I do not need baby drawing program >_<
17:49 < esden> *grr*
17:50 < blindcoder> hi esden
17:50 < daja77> lalala
17:50 < blindcoder> e-dethis might be interesting for you: http://www.crash-override.net/xmms.php
17:50 < esden> ho blindcoder 
17:51 * -> esden crashes daja77's bones
17:52 * blindcoder has a bad feeling about driving home today
17:52 < esden> blindcoder: hehe a stream ripper ... nice
17:52 < Lorini> hi esden
17:52 < Lorini> hi blindy
17:52 < esden> hi Lorini!
17:52 < blindcoder> esden: xmms could do thin before... but only into one huge file
17:52 < blindcoder> esden: now it can do it to several files :)
17:52 < esden> yes I know
17:53 < esden> very nice
17:53 < blindcoder> I hope I'll come home alive today... I'm so damn sleepy...
17:54 < daja77> esden: I've heard of adults who were quite happy with it, so don't worry
17:57 < esden> blindcoder: do you like a coffe ... I have some here ;-)
17:57 < blindcoder> esden: doesn't help
17:57 * Mike1 wants coffee
17:58 < blindcoder> esden: nothing helps against a co-workec who can't even count up to 5 if you don't give him a step-by-step howto
17:58 < daja77> Mike1: the coffee will be cold until it reaches you :)
17:58 < blindcoder> that's why I'm still at work
17:58 * fede2 is glad to have his expresso machine at work
17:58 < daja77> fede2: can you make coffe for Mike1
17:58 < Mike1> fede2: you are not that far away, sent me over some coffee :)
17:58 < blindcoder> lme wanted to go home at 13:00 today... btw
17:58 < fede2> daja77: Well.. We are both in costa rica.. so :)
17:59 < daja77> fede2: that's why I asked you :)
17:59 < Mike1> daja77: fede2 is an old friend from Uni.
17:59 < Mike1> daja77: and the one to blame for me getting started with linux.
17:59 < daja77> fede2: good job
18:00 < fede2> I am very sorry to have done that.
18:00 < kasc> re
18:00 < daja77> fede2: why?
18:00 < daja77> re kasc
18:00 * Mike1 kicks fede2 
18:00 < fede2> daja77: Mike1 should be picking up coffee in the coffee fields or something :)
18:01 < Mike1> fede2: always charming huh?
18:02 < ringo78_> Hi Mike1 all ok ?
18:02 < Mike1> ringo78_: yeah sure :)
18:02 < fede2> Mike1: Al Bundy' charming :)
18:03 < Mike1> ringo78_: wie gehts?
18:03 < kasc> anyone wants some tea?
18:03 < Lorini> do you have orange tea?
18:04 < kasc> the color is somewhat orange, yes...
18:04 < ringo78_> Mike1: Rel. ok, assembled 11 Pc's Think I am going to buy a sparc ;-).
18:05 < Mike1> ringo78_: getting sparc laptop would be nice.
18:05 < daja77> ringo78_: hi
18:06 < ringo78_> hmm ok when I have some more $. Hi daja77
18:06 < Lorini> kasc: and the taste?
18:06 < kasc> Lorini: its a rooibos tea ;)
18:06 < Lorini> uah.. no thanks :)
18:06 < kasc> not specially flavored
18:06 < kasc> lol
18:06 < fede2> Mike1: I don't think that is suck a good idea. last time I checked, sparc laptops where incredibly expensive.
18:07 < Mike1> fede2: yeah over 7k
18:07 < Mike1> fede2: but without considering the price it would be nice to have one :)
18:07 < ringo78_> I think its much nicer then a ferrari ...
18:07 < ringo78_> ;-)
18:08 < Mike1> can i have both?
18:08 * Mike1 away on a meeting.
18:10 < ringo78_> I think when you have a ferrari, your no long interested in coding, works distractive, better buy an as400 with the spac laptop ;-)
18:16 < fede2> Mike1: thanks for the help.
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18:32 < blindcoder> wish me luck on my way home...
18:33 < Mike1> blindcoder: brake a leg.
18:34 < daja77> blindcoder: do not sleep :)
18:35 < daja77> Mike1: a very short meeting you had :)
18:35 < Mike1> daja77: actually i am still on the meeting but they don't see me :)
18:36 < daja77> Mike1: hehe, cool
18:37 < daja77> damn heavy rain again :(
18:40 < daja77> oh no it snows
18:40 * daja77 hates april
18:54 < kasc> here the sun is shining while its raining...
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18:56 < daja77> kasc: I had this yesterday, again, I hate it
18:57 < kasc> i like it as long as i can stay indoors and the sun keeps shining into my windows ;)
18:58 < daja77> I can't see anything if the sun shines on my monitor
18:59 < kasc> then your monitor isnt positioned well ;)
19:00 < daja77> I can't change it here at work
19:01 < daja77> kasc: btw, I booked a youth hostel in MD for the weekend :)
19:01 < kasc> hehe
19:02 < kasc> i'd like to come, too, but those tests are too important for me to spend a single day without lerning
19:02 < daja77> the test is on friday and the linuxtag is on saturday
19:03 < kasc> and yet another test is on tuesday
19:03 < daja77> I have a test on wednesday :(
19:03 < kasc> what about?
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19:04 < daja77> Datenschutz und Datensicherheit
19:04 < kasc> sounds interesting
19:04 < daja77> extended theoretical computer science :)
19:04 < kasc> better then statistics or math ;)
19:05 < daja77> this is maths, lots of it
19:05 < kasc> DGL's, fourier transformation and stuff?
19:06 < daja77> not this
19:06 -!- Lorini_ [~andrea@p3EE219C6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
19:07 * kasc prefers letting a computer do those parts of math ;)
19:07 < daja77> kasc: it is not that easy programming such stuff
19:08 < kasc> i know. but fortunately i dont need to code that myself :)
19:08 * daja77 is doin this
19:09 < kasc> poor you ;)
19:09 * daja77 throws an axe after kasc
19:09 * Mike1 laughts
19:09 * kasc hides behind Mike1 
19:10 < Mike1> *g
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19:11 < kasc> daja77: looks like you hit Lorini...
19:11 < daja77> hehe
19:12 < daja77> I have more axes to throw...
19:12 < kasc> uh oh... *g*
19:13 * kasc still hides behind Mike1 
19:13 < daja77> coward
19:14 < kasc> i just dont have a shield
19:14 < kasc> btw: what size is that axe?
19:14 < daja77> .oO the poor student cannot afford having a shield *rofl*
19:15 < daja77> big enough for you
19:16 < kasc> you know that large axes tend to fly like dead mules? *g*
19:17 < kasc> no wonder you hit Lorini ;P
19:17 * daja77 is bored of kasc the coward
19:18 * Mike1 eats daja77's axes
19:18 < daja77> Mike1: no food in cr, eh
19:18 < Mike1> daja77: just trying to be fair
19:19 < Mike1> kasc: attack now!
19:19 < daja77> hehe, you are fair *rofl*
19:19 < Mike1> daja77: sure i am :)
19:19 < kasc> Mike1: my only weapon would be to tickle daja77 to death ;)
19:19 < daja77> why didn't you gave him an axe
19:20 < daja77> kasc: dare!
19:20 * Mike1 throws an axe to kasc
19:20 < kasc> Mike1: hey!
19:20 < Mike1> oopps you were supposed to grab it!
19:20 < daja77> Mike1: you have them eaten, remember
19:20 * kasc ducks
19:20 < Mike1> daja77: i have some of my own
19:20 < daja77> Mike1: and this you call fair
19:21 < Mike1> daja77: you could kill an elephant with them
19:21 < Mike1> daja77: nah i got bored of been fair :)
19:21 < daja77> hehe
19:21 < kasc> Mike1: why would you want to kill an elephant with axes?
19:21 < daja77> kasc: because he is bored the whole time
19:22 < Mike1> kasc: because it would be fun?
19:23 < kasc> Mike1: to kill an elephant?
19:23 < daja77> there are no elephants in cr, iirc
19:23 < Mike1> kasc: maybe we could pretent that esden is the lephant
19:23 < Mike1> elephant*
19:23 < kasc> hehe
19:24 < Mike1> daja77: are you in?
19:24 < kasc> Mike1: in what way? having such a thick skin or being that heavy? *g*
19:25 < Mike1> kasc: who cares? just throw the axes
19:25 < daja77> Mike1: huh?
19:26 < Mike1> daja77: we shooting elephants
19:26 * kasc prefers to be pacifistic
19:26 < Mike1> daja77: und esden is one of them
19:26 < daja77> kasc is a wimp
19:26 < kasc> i'm just not that aggressive
19:26 < daja77> Mike1: one, two, throw
19:27 < Mike1> hehe
19:27 < daja77> kasc: as I said, you are a ...
19:27 * Mike1 doesn't know what anger hate or agressivity is.
19:27 < daja77> but you know what fun is
19:27 < Mike1> hell yeah
19:30 < daja77> aggressive is when start having fun with someone who doesn't know you
19:34 * daja77 takes his axe and goes hacking
19:34 < Mike1> :)
19:35 < Mike1> kasc: how are games doing?
19:36 < kasc> Mike1: currently suspended as university wants me to use my time with learning
19:36 < Mike1> can't you split the time?
19:36 < Mike1> or even your brain :)
19:36 < kasc> hehe
19:37 < kasc> one game is nearly finished, but its marked as unfinished in my rolling rock article, so i cant submit it ;)
19:41 < daja77> well, initiated build at work :)
19:42 < Mike1> == 12:31:13 =[5]=> Building base/glibc23 [2.3.2 1.7-snapshot].
19:42 < Mike1> == 12:16:53 =[5]=> Building kde31/kdemultimedia31 [3.1.1 1.7-snapshot].
19:42 < Mike1> :)
19:42 < daja77> :)
19:43 < daja77> will continue to work on realtime rock next week
19:43 < Mike1> why next week?
19:44 < daja77> I have to learn for a test on wednesday
19:45 < Mike1> enjoy learning
19:45 < daja77> thx
19:46 < _NULL> re
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19:47 < daja77> re owl
19:47 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p50801919.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
19:47 < blindcoder> hi
19:48 < daja77> re hi blindcoder, what's the matter with you?
19:49 < blindcoder> too much to list here
19:49 < daja77> pick out the most annoying thing
19:50 < blindcoder> now THAT's a good question...
19:50 < blindcoder> maybe stupid co-workers who are unable to count to 5 if you don't give them a step-by-step HowTo
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19:51 < wosch> hi
19:51 < _NULL> wb blindcoder, hi wosch
19:51 < daja77> hi wosch
19:51 < daja77> kasc: http://www.pro-linux.de/news/2003/5389.html
19:55 < kasc> nice :)
19:55 < kasc> appended to my todo
19:55 < daja77> hehe, good
19:55 < kasc> bbl (Kneipentour)
19:55 < _NULL> kasc: have fun. bye
19:55 < daja77> have fun
19:55 < kasc> thx
19:56 * daja77 is goin home now :)
19:57 < daja77> cu
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20:05 < Lorini_> *sigh*
20:21 < esden> Lorini_: ?
20:21 < Lorini_> everything ok
20:22 < _NULL> hi esden
20:23 < esden> hi owl
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20:28 < demian> hi
20:28 < _NULL> hi demian
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20:30 < esden> hi demian, Parabull 
20:35 < demian> _NULL, esden !
20:36 < demian> the Parabull
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20:46 < daja77> re
20:46 * blindcoder going to bed
20:46 < blindcoder> with a bit of luck I die in my sleep
20:46 < daja77> n8 blindcoder
20:46 < Mike1> n8 blindy
20:47 < Mike1> blindcoder: and you will _NOT_ die
20:47 * daja77 loves to drive through that ghost town at night
20:47 < _NULL> gn8 blindcoder
21:00 < demian> cya blindcoder
21:00 < daja77> demian: you are so late *g*
21:55 -!- rxr [~rxr@port-212-202-173-117.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux
21:55 < rxr> hi
21:55 < Mike1> hi Ren.
21:56 < rxr> hi Mike1
21:56 < Mike1> ;-)
21:57 < _NULL> hi rxr
21:58 < esden> hoho rxr 
21:58 < esden> rxr: I got gimp running
21:58 < esden> but only disabling gnome-print
22:21 < rxr> http://schillernet.dyndns.org/rock-linux/
22:21 < rxr> ppc .gem files ;-) as well as historic dRock releaes ;-)
22:22 < Mike1> http://schillernet.dyndns.org/rock-linux/historic/rock-i586-1.3.11.iso
22:22 < Mike1> wow! :)
22:24 < demian> would be cool to get that
22:34 < Mike1> demian: get it.
22:34 * Mike1 has a 1.2.0 iso :)
22:34 < demian> lol.. u know my connection.. asking a turtle to bring it from that place would be faster
22:42 < esden> demian: got a booster ;-)
22:42 < esden> a waterpump schoud do ;-)
22:42 < demian> lol
22:45 < esden> you only have to mod it into a bitpump
22:45 < Mike1> Guys you have to see this :
22:45 < Mike1> http://www.sun.com/blueprints/0502/816-4816-10.pdf
22:45 < esden> Mike1: what is this?
22:46 < Mike1> esden: <click> :)
22:46 < esden> urgh ... nooo ... I had to open acroread .. /me to lazy
22:47 < Mike1> ok as you wish.
22:47 < esden> *sigh*
22:49 < rxr> Mike1: /me also has a 1.2.0 cd lying around here ... ;-)
22:51 < _NULL> GNAAA!FSCKING RPM
22:51 < Mike1> rxr: got any prvious iso then 1.2?
22:51 < Mike1> _NULL: relax!
22:52 < _NULL> no!
22:52 < esden> yes _NULL relax
22:52 < _NULL> it's going to kill me3!
22:52 < esden> no ... kill me !! ;-)
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22:52 < _NULL> aeh...
22:53 < esden> I want to se if my thesis is right ;-)
22:53 < _NULL> it's simple esden - build (or better: try to build) rpm-4.1, stage 3 in rock-1.5...
22:53 < _NULL> esden: your thesis ist wrong.
22:53 < esden> no thanks .. 1.5 is evil ;-)
22:53 < _NULL> full ack
22:53 < esden> so why do you use thatL
22:53 < esden> ?
22:55 < _NULL> *knurr* the .err file contains more warnings than build-out-log-stuff
22:56 < Mike1> _NULL: of course
22:56 < demian> hehe
22:56 < esden> rofl
22:56 < _NULL> Mike1: why "of course"?
22:56 < _NULL> is it optimized for gcc-alien-version?
22:58 < esden> _NULL: it 1.5 is made by aliens aka huebi ;-)
22:58 < _NULL> hrm.
22:59 < rxr> esden: *lol*
22:59 < esden> rxr: am I right or am I right?
23:00 < rxr> you are right.
23:00 * rxr head banging ;-)
23:00 < _NULL> omg
23:00 < esden> rofl
23:00 < esden> rxr: is my man ;-)
23:01 < esden> i mean our man ;-)
23:01 < _NULL> *cough* *cough*
23:01 < Mike1> esden: does it mean i am an Alien too?
23:02 < esden> Mike1: hmm ... seems so ... ;-) and owl too ;-)
23:02 < Mike1> omg! We are all aliens!?!?!
23:02 < Mike1> AHHH!!
23:02 * _NULL takes a laaaaarge sword and kills esden !
23:02 < Mike1> _NULL: lazer sword?
23:02 < _NULL> nope.
23:02 < Mike1> _NULL: ah the pink sword :)
23:03 < _NULL> nope
23:04 < esden> hehe ... the pink owl sword is sweet
23:04 < _NULL> pah
23:04 < esden> it is also called "little kitty sword"
23:05 < _NULL> *grrrrr*
23:05 * -> esden can imagine owl in pink armor and a pink sword ... that would look sweet ;-)
23:05 * Mike1 ROTL
23:05 < _NULL> heeeelp! esden is insane! please call a doctor and the police!
23:06 < Mike1> _NULL: just give him a hug
23:06 < _NULL> nope
23:09 < rxr> you all now this is beeing logged *smile*
23:09 < rxr> esden: interseting is that heubi had no time for the stable tree - but as soon as we get an interbiew about ROCK Linux huebi immidiately speaks up beeing interested ...
23:09 < rxr> (esden: you get rock-core ?)
23:09 < Mike1> rock-core ?!?
23:09 < Mike1> great.
23:09 < Mike1> :(
23:10 < esden> o_O ... rock-core ?
23:10 * -> esden confused ... sorry
23:11 < Mike1> esden: i guess its yet another ml to which you and i are not subscribed
23:12 < esden> I am subscribed to the hacker mailinglist or how it is called
23:13 < esden> the 1.5 stuff developes itself to a closed community like Xfree86 group ...
23:13 < Mike1> esden: yeah thats hackers
23:13 < rxr> I don't care about 1.5 anymore ...
23:14 < Mike1> esden: but hackers != rock-core
23:14 < Mike1> esden: if we are not there if for a reson so..
23:14 < rxr> anyway ...
23:14 < rxr> no it is nor for a reason
23:15 < rxr> it was an idea for internal organisation
23:15 < rxr> but the last half year there was only one mail ...
23:15 < rxr> the last mail before was: Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 19:33:21 +0100 (CET)
23:15 < rxr> ...
23:16 < esden> hmm ... it can be that I am in that mailinglist ... 
23:16 < Mike1> ah ...
23:16 < rxr> Jocelyn sent a mail today
23:16 < esden> but I am in many mailinglists ... and when there are no mails that come from it then I do not realize that I am in it
23:16 < esden> aha ...
23:16 * -> esden checks
23:16 < rxr> but the list is so seldom used that the mail tomorrow fot not even sorted correctly
23:17 * rxr adapting the XEmacs/mew mail filer ;-)
23:17 < Mike1> excellent i didn't get Jocelyns mail
23:17 < Mike1> so i am not in.
23:17 * Mike1 goes back to his dutys.
23:19 < esden> ok ... I am also not in that mailinglist ...
23:20 < rxr> you do not missed anything ...
23:20 < rxr> err did not miss ...
23:20 * Mike1 believes someone like esden should be in...
23:21 * rxr already writing this via mail
23:21 < rxr> Maybe this mail should also go to the rock-linux list - since I guess
23:21 < rxr> only a few people are on rock-core (I guess not even esden is
23:21 < rxr> ...). Maybe only core developers should join the chat - but most
23:21 < rxr> current core developers are not on rock-core ...
23:21 < rxr> Btw: Should we start rock-core for more delegation in the future?
23:21 < rxr> Is this ok ?
23:22 < esden> even ;-)
23:22 < Mike1> anyways decides who are cores and who are not?
23:22 < esden> not _even_ me ... ROFL
23:22 < Mike1> who decides who ..
23:23 < rxr> no one decided - some people simply got put on the list by cliff two years ago or so
23:23 < Mike1> esden: well you are a core you should be in :)
23:23 < Mike1> rxr ok
23:23 < esden> at least I am in the file containing core developers ... and also Mike1 
23:24 < Mike1> esden: i am just filling space there.
23:24 < esden> ROFL
23:24 < Mike1> esden: its the truth
23:25 < Mike1> anyways its not important.
23:25 < rxr> there never was much traffic - and the subscrivers never changed ....
23:25 < rxr> esden: you are a core devel, aren't you?
23:25 < rxr> sent
23:26 < esden> rxr: yes I am ...
23:28 < demian>  < Mike1> esden: i am just filling space there. -> i saw sth like that in a Developers file somewhere :p
23:28 < Mike1> demian: i know.
23:31 < rxr> hm the webmin thing get hot ... :-(
23:31 < rxr> hm 20 seconds and I'll burn a YellowDogLinux CD to deflate my .gem files on the iBook
23:32 < demian> lol @ rxr
23:32 < demian> hm the webmin thing get hot ... :-(
23:32 < demian> well, have to leave
23:32 < demian> cya
23:32 < demian> later
23:32 < _NULL> bye demian
23:33 < Mike1> demian: you can be weird sometimes
23:33 * demian away
23:34 < rxr> hm the yellow dog linux peolpe are strange - naming the iso "dayton-2.3-20020704-install.iso"
23:35 < rxr> who should remember that this is yellow dog linux some weeks later ?!?
23:36 < kasc> re
23:36 < _NULL> hm. it's not difficult to remember imho
23:37 < Mike1> wb kasc
23:37 < _NULL> hi kasc
23:37 < kasc> thx
23:38 < esden> rxr: we should also change our iso naming ... take a dictionary open it somewhere and pick a rondom word ;-)
23:39 < _NULL> better: password-generator... the total unique "iso-name" ;P
23:39 < esden> lol yes
23:39 < rxr> jups
23:39 < demian> who could gimme a brief description of what inline-functions are ?
23:40 < _NULL> demian: you're writing an exam and cheating?
23:40 < demian> does this replaces procedures calls with its code into the caller ?
23:41 < demian> hehe, no.. investigating about optimization levels variety and risks in DLX arch
23:41 < _NULL> hehe. ok ;)
23:42 * demian have to code a virtual scoreboarding server machine to simlate a DLX arch :(
23:57 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux
23:57 < A-Tui> hi guys
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