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--- Log opened Fri Apr 11 00:00:26 2003
--- Day changed Fri Apr 11 2003
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00:01 < [n00kie]> anyone alive?
00:02 * jhidalgo is alive! :>
00:02 < Mike1> ik
00:02 * daja77 is alive
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00:02 < [n00kie]> ah :)
00:02 < Mike1> geshme__ is not alive :)
00:02 < [n00kie]> oh man
00:02 < [n00kie]> i'm hungry :)
00:03 < daja77> eat!
00:03 < [n00kie]> i can't
00:03 < [n00kie]> we have nothing to eat under bridge
00:03 < [n00kie]> you know
00:03 < [n00kie]> just rats
00:03 < daja77> why, no foood in austria?
00:03 < [n00kie]> and death birds
00:03 < daja77> kill a rat
00:03 < [n00kie]> lol
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00:28 < jhidalgo> diay no se, yo duro como 15 mins llegando!
00:28 < Mike1> lol wrong window
00:28 < jhidalgo> y ya tengo hambre! jeje
00:28 < jhidalgo> ups, sorry people!
00:29 < daja77> wanna read a little poem in the evening?
00:30 < Mike1> daja77: did you wrote it?
00:30 < daja77> nope, a guy wrote in another chan, it is funny
00:32 < Mike1> show it to us
00:33 < daja77> father heard his children scream
00:33 < daja77> so he threw them in the stream
00:33 < daja77> saying as he drowned the third
00:33 < daja77> "children should be *seen* - not heard"
00:34 < Mike1> hehe
00:38 * jhidalgo gone for a smoke!
00:38 < daja77> jhidalgo is burning .oO
00:42 * Mike1 wonders why _NULL is so quite today...
00:43 < daja77> cos she is away?
00:43 * Mike1 misses _NULL
00:52 * jhidalgo gone early from work!
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00:52 * Mike1 gone too
00:53 * daja77 will go now to bed, bye all
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01:23 < _HulK_> hi all
01:24 < _HulK_> anyone has dial up connection?
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01:46 < mauricio> hi!
01:48 < mauricio> i am looking for a database managemet system with support for stored procedures and sub-queries, any clue on it?
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03:02 < miguel> hi there
03:03 < miguel> anyone is up?
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03:04 < _HulK_> he
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07:26 < [n00kie]> Hello!
09:31 < _NULL> hi
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10:34 < rxr> re
10:34 < _NULL> hi rxr
10:35 < esden> hi all
10:35 < _NULL> hi esden
10:42 < rxr> hi esden
11:03 < [n00kie]> Hello rxr!
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11:05 < esden> hi [n00kie] 
11:05 < [n00kie]> hi esden
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12:18 < [n00kie]> Hi Guys!
12:18 < _NULL> hi [n00kie]
12:18 < [n00kie]> hi _NULL
12:19 < [n00kie]> i need some help with rock linux 2.0 alpha
12:19 < [n00kie]> i installed it successfully
12:19 < [n00kie]> but grub does not start
12:19 < [n00kie]> so
12:19 < [n00kie]> how can i boot rock ?
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14:44 < _NULL> hi daja77
14:44 < daja77> hi _NULL
14:49 < kasc_> moin
14:49 -!- kasc_ is now known as kasc
14:49 < daja77> hi kasc :)
14:49 < _NULL> hi kasc
15:15 * kasc hates mutt
15:15 < _NULL> why?
15:15 < kasc> doesnt sent any mails. It just eats them
15:16 < _NULL> great. /me whishes to be an e-mail which is eaten by mutt
15:16 < Ge0rG> mutt is a MUA, not a MTA. thats why it uses sendmail to send mail.
15:17 < kasc> Ge0rG: i'd like it to send mails with sendmail but it doesnt
15:18 < Ge0rG> sendmail logs to syslog when it is started - do you get any output there?
15:18 < kasc> usually yes. everything works fine with pine, but with mutt i dont even get any output from postfix...
15:20 < Ge0rG> maybe you have to :set sendmail to a postfix appropriate value?
15:21 * tfing has nothing configured for outgoing mail in his .muttrc
15:22 < kasc> postfix installs /usr/sbin/sendmail to enable programs to send mail
15:22 < Ge0rG> on my machine I have sendmail="/usr/bin/sendmail -oem -oi" (but I'm using "real" sendmail too)
15:25 < daja77> bye bye I'm off now
15:26 < _NULL> bye daja77
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17:07 < rolla> re
17:33 < esden> hi rolla 
17:34 < esden> hi all
17:40 < esden> and cu all
18:05 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dialin-145-254-162-175.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux
18:07 < capchaos> Hmm would there be any problem (with the linker) if I upgrade from glibc 2.3.1 to 2.3.2 ?
18:07 < tfing> nope
18:07 < tfing> i did it yesterday ;)
18:07 < capchaos> no unresolved links in the binaries?
18:07 < tfing> i had no pb yet
18:07 < capchaos> ok, thanks :)
18:07 < tfing> except to put back some lib reps in the /etc/ld.so.conf
18:08 < tfing> at least it worked for me, but your mileage may vary eh
18:10 < capchaos> lib reps?
18:10 < tfing> lib directories
18:10 < capchaos> How would it look like?
18:10 < tfing> it's just a /usr/local/e17/lib that i had added
18:11 < capchaos> ok
18:11 < capchaos> Ah, I got it :)
18:11 * capchaos says good morning to himself
18:12 < tfing> :)
18:18 < capchaos> By default glibc doesn't change /etc/ld.so.conf.. at least not when I compiled it last time
18:18 < capchaos> iirc
18:19 < tfing> well, i had a bit screwed up my system
18:19 < tfing> when i upgraded from 2.2.5 to 2.3.1
18:20 < tfing> i couldn't do a ./scripts/Build-Pkg -update
18:20 < capchaos> I didn't compile it with ROCK
18:20 < capchaos> Didn't it work?
18:21 < tfing> hmm ?
18:22 < capchaos> ./scripts/Build-Pkg -update
18:22 < tfing> how do you want to compile it ?
18:23 < capchaos> from scratch
18:23 < capchaos> at least now
18:23 * capchaos haven't got any ROCK installed
18:23 < tfing> oh
18:23 < tfing> well, there shouldn't be a problem either
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18:34 < capchaos> re tfing
18:34 < tfing> re
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18:56 < [n00kie]> Hello!
18:56 < [n00kie]> I got Rock work!
18:56 < [n00kie]> :)
18:57 < [n00kie]> The problem was the ntfs filessystem und HDA1!
18:57 < [n00kie]> So i couldn't write grub/lilo into mbr!
18:57 < capchaos> great
18:58 < [n00kie]> :-))
18:58 < [n00kie]> But my partition table got destroyed
18:58 < [n00kie]> lol
18:59 < [n00kie]> but now i am happy
18:59 < capchaos> enjoy it
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19:13 < _NULL> re
19:16 < capchaos> Welcome back, owly!
19:17 < _NULL> thx, cap :)
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19:25 < _NULL> hi marcio
19:26 < marcio> supz
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19:30 < [n00kie]> hi
19:30 < marcio> re
19:30 < [n00kie]> hi marcio
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20:30 < Konrat> is there anibody out there?
20:30 < _NULL> hi Konrat
20:31 < Konrat> Hy Null
20:31 < [n00kie]> Hi Konrat
20:31 < Konrat> I would like to speak with Nikolaus ....
20:32 < Konrat> do you know his nick?
20:35 < Konrat> Hi n00kie
20:35 < Konrat> well, I would like to build Rock Linux under Mandrake 9.1
20:35 < Konrat> but since this is my first attempt in building it
20:35 < Konrat> I am afraid of "damaging" the previous installation ...
20:35 < Konrat> I read the guide, but I did not understand it well ...
20:35 < Konrat> how does it work, to build under another ditribution, but using the compiler of Rock linux?
20:36 < _NULL> Konrat: version? 1.7?
20:36 < Konrat> well, I would like to build 2.0 alpha ....
20:37 < Konrat> I work practically on the backbone, so I can download the one I prefer ...
20:37 < Konrat> (I downloaded 1.6, and then i discovered it was unmantained!)
20:37 < _NULL> *cough cough*
20:37 < _NULL> (not really unmaintained, but... /* no comment */)
20:38 < Konrat> well, it is not a problem really ...
20:38 < _NULL> normally you need devfs support in your kernel, devfsd...
20:38 < Konrat> got it ... I am working on 2.4.21 ...
20:39 < Konrat> (the kernel, I mean)
20:39 < _NULL> and you want to compile for the alpha-architecture?
20:40 < Konrat> why the alpha??? no it is pentium III ....
20:40 < _NULL> 20:36 < Konrat> well, I would like to build 2.0 alpha .... << because of this ;)
20:40 < _NULL> ok... then i can help you
20:40 < Konrat> :-D ... no I meant version 2.0.0-Alpha ....
20:41 < Konrat> which I think it is at the end of the day the last version of 1.7 ...
20:42 < Konrat> is it right?
20:43 < _NULL> aehm..
20:43 < _NULL> dunno. sorry...
20:43 * _NULL uses CVS
20:43 < [n00kie]> Konrat
20:43 < Konrat> perfect ...
20:43 < [n00kie]> Building Alpha makes no sense
20:43 < Konrat> iwhy???
20:43 < [n00kie]> 2.0.0 alpha uses 1.7 binary files
20:44 < _NULL> did you alreay download the packages?
20:44 < Konrat> interesting ... well, in any case I can use CVS ...
20:44 < [n00kie]> i use 2.0.0 alpha too
20:44 < Konrat> not yet, I was trying to understand how it works ...
20:44 < Konrat> because of what happened when i downloaded all the 1.6 packages ah, ah!
20:44 < _NULL> hehe. sorry for that...
20:45 < Konrat> no problem ... :-)
20:46 < Konrat> so, we were at the stage where my kernel has to have devfsd ...
20:46 < Konrat> and then?
20:46 < [n00kie]> okay
20:46 < [n00kie]> i will reinstall rock now :)
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20:47 < _NULL> then you create a dir where you will build rock - let's call it 'rock-linux'
20:47 < n00kie> hi
20:47 < _NULL> get the sources
20:47 < _NULL> which will be located at 'rock-src-1.7' (normally)
20:47 < Konrat> yes
20:47 < Konrat> under /rock-linux/rock-src-1.7
20:48 < _NULL> after that change into 'rock-src-1.7' and run './scripts/Create-Links /path/to/rock-linux'
20:48 < Konrat> ok ...
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20:49 < _NULL> aeh... where do you want to create the 'rock-linux' directory?
20:49 < n00kie> i have a question
20:49 < n00kie> when i install rock linux
20:50 < Konrat> I use a diectory called /rock-linux under a partition separate by the / partition ...
20:50 < n00kie> should i use logical or primary partitions?
20:50 < Konrat> it is the same partition where I have /home
20:50 < Konrat> which is around 2Gb
20:50 < _NULL> change into the 'rock-linux' directory, and run './scripts/Download -parameter' there.
20:50 < Konrat> and practically empty ...
20:51 < Konrat> I do that AFTER downloading the sources ...
20:51 < _NULL> (usually './scripts/Download -required'
20:51 < Konrat> and AFTER ./scripts/Create-Links '/path/to/rock-linux'
20:51 < Konrat> ??
20:51 < n00kie> _NULL: Should I use primary or logical partitions?
20:51 < _NULL> n00kie: aeh. that's your choice
20:52 < n00kie> aehm
20:52 < n00kie> i dont know the difference between them
20:52 < n00kie> on hda1 it is so:
20:52 < n00kie> hda1: primary, fat32
20:52 < n00kie> hda5: logical, fat32
20:52 < n00kie> so
20:52 < n00kie> what partitions should i make?
20:52 < n00kie> logical or primary
20:52 < _NULL> wuah. windows...
20:53 < n00kie> yes
20:53 < Konrat> n00kie: where is your linux installation?
20:53 < Konrat> in hda5?
20:53 < _NULL> which of the partiotions would you like to remove?
20:53 < n00kie> Konrat: No, there are files
20:53 < Konrat> how is it possible on a fat 32?
20:53 < n00kie> _Null: I have 42gb free
20:53 < _NULL> n00kie: then, create a logical partiton...
20:54 < n00kie> ok
20:54 < n00kie> what is the difference between logical and primary partitions?
20:54 < Konrat> NULL: I run './scripts/Download -parameter'. After that?
20:54 < _NULL> you will get the files
20:55 < _NULL> ... and wait and have some cups of coffee ...
20:55 < Konrat> why not './scripts/Download -required' ?
20:56 < _NULL> after that './scripts/Config' or if you don't want to use the default-config-file, use './scripts/Config -cvg whateverconfigname'
20:56 < _NULL> Konrat: i meant with '-parameter' that you can choose the parameter(s) you need/want, here
20:57 < Konrat> OK. So the sequence is './scripts/Config' and then './scripts/Download -required' ...
20:57 < _NULL> yes... or so...
20:57 < Konrat> and I download all the files under '/rock-linux/rock-src-1.7'
20:58 < Konrat> then I run './scripts/Create-Links /rock-linux'
20:58 < Konrat> ?
20:58 < _NULL> no!
20:58 < _NULL> you run:
20:58 < _NULL> cd /rock-linux
20:58 < _NULL> mkdir rock-linux
20:59 < _NULL> if you want to store the rock-linux folder in rock-linux
20:59 < _NULL> ok?
20:59 < _NULL> and - after that you use:
20:59 < Konrat> yes, of course. I was thinking of having only one leave of the tree, starting from scratch ...
21:00 < _NULL> 'cd /rock-linux/rock-src-1.7'   './scripts/Create-Links /rock-linux/rock-linux'
21:00 < Konrat> perfect!
21:01 < _NULL> after that in '/rock-linux/rock-linux' you will need to run './scripts/Config' (with/without paramters)
21:02 < Konrat> ok!
21:02 < _NULL> well
21:03 < n00kie> Can I build 1.7 on drock 2.0 alpha?
21:04 < Konrat> after that I run './scripts/Download -required'
21:04 < Konrat> or './scripts/Download -all'
21:04 < Konrat> or whatever I want! :-)
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21:04 < _NULL> n00kie: which 'alpha' do you mean? *confused*
21:05 < _NULL> alpha-version or alpha-architecture?
21:05 < n00kie> alpha version
21:05 < _NULL> ah. k. then - yes. should work
21:05 < n00kie> ah
21:05 < n00kie> thx
21:06 < n00kie> <- installing drock 2.0 alpha full :)
21:06 < _NULL> you're welcome
21:06 < _NULL> n00kie: hehe. have fun
21:06 < n00kie> but i forgot to deselect the servers
21:06 < Konrat> at the build stage, which compiler is going to be used?  the compiler of the version which is behind (Mandrake 9.1) or the compiler I downloaded?
21:06 < n00kie> could i deinstall them afterwards?
21:07 < capchaos> Mandrake¿
21:07 < capchaos> Konrat, there are different stages
21:08 < n00kie> _NULL: Can I deinstall the servers after the setup of rock?
21:08 < n00kie> i don't want to use samba, apache, ...
21:08 < _NULL> aeh... you need to build rock, a gcc-3.2.whatever - then it will build the first stages (don't ask me until which stage) and after this, it will afaik chroot into the rock-directory and use the gcc-3.2.2 which was build by rock
21:08 < _NULL> n00kie: aehm. i guess mine should be your friend
21:08 < n00kie> ah
21:08 < n00kie> ok
21:08 < n00kie> ty
21:09 < Konrat> ok ...
21:09 < capchaos> Konrat, you'll need a host compiler to bootstrap first (e.g. in your Mandrake). At the end all programs will be compiled with ROCK's own gcc
21:09 < Konrat> ok ..
21:10 < Konrat> when I arrive at the stage of compiling the kernel ..
21:10 < Konrat> oooops ... my wife is calling! see you soon ... are you always here more or less at this time of noght?
21:11 < Konrat> (night)
21:11 < capchaos> see ya Konrat
21:11 < _NULL> yes...
21:11 < n00kie> yesd Konrat  :-)
21:11 < _NULL> bye Konrat
21:11 < n00kie> have fun
21:11 < Konrat> see ya .... and thank for help ...
21:11 < _NULL> no problem. bye
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21:35 < capchaos> hi blindy
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21:54 < n00kie> i am on my rock linux setup
21:54 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux
21:54 < n00kie> it asks me after my "host ip adress"
21:54 < A-Tui> hi all
21:54 < n00kie> is the host ip adress my default lan ip adress?
21:54 < _NULL> hi A-Tui
21:54 < n00kie> hi A-Tui
21:54 < _NULL> n00kie: yes
21:54 < A-Tui> hi _NULL, n00kie!
21:55 < n00kie> ok _Null
21:55 < n00kie> There is
21:55 < n00kie> i mean
21:55 < n00kie> my default ip adress is 192.168.0.4
21:55 < _NULL> yes?
21:55 < n00kie> but there "steht" 192.168.0.10/24
21:55 < n00kie> is this ok?
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21:55 < _NULL> aeh....
21:56 < capchaos> hi demian!
21:56 < demian> hi
21:56 < demian> capchaos!!
21:56 < n00kie> hello demian
21:56 < capchaos> :)
21:56 < demian> the n00kie
21:56 < _NULL> i guess you should maybe change it to 192.168.0.4/24 ?
21:56 < n00kie> :)
21:56 < _NULL> hi demian
21:56 < n00kie> ah
21:56 < n00kie> ok
21:56 < n00kie> thank you _NULL
21:56 < A-Tui> hola demian
21:56 < demian> owl !
21:56 < demian> A-Tui!
21:56 < demian> hola A-Tui
21:56 < A-Tui> how are you?
21:56 < _NULL> n00kie: "angaben ohne gewaehr"
21:57 < demian> bien, gracias
21:57 < A-Tui> me alegro :)
21:57 < n00kie> hehehe _NULL :)
21:57 < demian> y vos ?
21:57 < A-Tui> bien, hoy cogi vacaciones, asi que muy alegre :)
21:58 < demian> i ll be on holydays until next wednesday :(
21:58 < A-Tui> ops
21:58 < A-Tui> i have almost 2 weeks
21:58 < n00kie> i have another question
21:58 < demian> nice
21:59 < n00kie> i am on configuring grub
21:59 < A-Tui> yes, that's great
21:59 < n00kie> i have windows 2000 on a fat32 partition on hda1
21:59 < n00kie> what entry must i give, to choose it on grub?
22:00 < demian> other=/dev/discs/discN/partX
22:00 < demian>  ah no.. that's lilo, sorry
22:00 < _NULL> ???
22:00 * _NULL doesn't use grup
22:00 < _NULL> s/grup/grub
22:00 < capchaos> grub rocks!
22:00 < capchaos> *flame*
22:00 < n00kie> can anyone please tell me the entry?
22:01 < _NULL> capchaos: :p
22:02 < n00kie> hi capchaos
22:02 < capchaos> n00kie, I haven't used grub with Windows partitions... but I see the info/man pages say a lot about it
22:03 * capchaos too lazy to read through, though
22:03 < n00kie> yeeeeeees
22:03 < n00kie> ROCK is booting! :))9
22:03 < n00kie> :)))
22:04 < n00kie> is there anyway to install nano ?
22:06 < n00kie> how can i remove a user?
22:06 < capchaos> userdel user
22:07 < n00kie> hmm
22:07 < n00kie> i made
22:07 < n00kie> useradd n00kie -p password
22:07 < n00kie> and it doesn't accepts the passwd?
22:08 < kasc> re
22:08 < n00kie> wb kasc!
22:08 < kasc> thx :)
22:10 -!- demian is now known as scasb
22:10 < capchaos> scasb?
22:10 < scasb> an ia32 machine internal instruction
22:11 < capchaos> Ah :)
22:11 < capchaos> n00kie, what does it say?
22:11 < n00kie> login incorrect
22:11 < n00kie> hmm
22:12 < n00kie> should i user
22:12 < scasb> n00kie: do that is dangerous, never add a user displaying its pasword in the cmd, instead try to addd it first and later change its password with 'passwd' command
22:12 < scasb> btw.. what rock are u using ?
22:12 < n00kie> useradd n00kie -c Real Name -d /home/n00kie -p PASSWORT -uid 2 ?
22:12 < n00kie> 2.0 alpha
22:13 < n00kie> ah
22:13 < n00kie> ok scasb
22:13 < scasb> umm. i see
22:13 < n00kie> what should i know enter to add the user n00kie?
22:14 < scasb> msae thing u did, but without the -p option.
22:14 < scasb> s/msae/same
22:14 < n00kie> ok
22:15 < n00kie> hmm
22:15 < n00kie> this doesn't works
22:16 < n00kie> useradd: Ungueltiges numerisches Argument 'ID'
22:16 < scasb> english ?
22:16 < n00kie> uhm
22:16 < n00kie> unknown numerical argument 'ID'
22:16 < n00kie> not unknown
22:16 < n00kie> i mean
22:17 < n00kie> no acceptable
22:17 < n00kie> not acceptable
22:17 < n00kie> sorry, my english is not very good
22:18 < scasb> just do this: useradd -m n00kie -u 2
22:18 < n00kie> useradd: UID 2 is not correct
22:19 < scasb> is the previous command u used -uid -> so u are trying to assing 'id' to uid
22:19 < n00kie> hm
22:19 < n00kie> ok
22:19 < n00kie> and what must i enter?
22:20 < scasb> useradd -m n00kie
22:20 < n00kie> ok
22:20 < n00kie> this worked :)
22:20 < n00kie> and how can I change the password?
22:20 < scasb> later changes values by hand in the passwd file or with 'chfn' command
22:20 < scasb> passwd
22:20 < n00kie> passwd n00kie password?
22:20 < n00kie> scasb ?
22:21 < scasb> passwd n00kie
22:21 < n00kie> ah
22:21 < n00kie> thank you!
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22:21 < n00kie> i have another problem
22:21 < n00kie> when i want to ping a website
22:21 < n00kie> it says host not found
22:21 < n00kie> but in the lan it finds the host
22:22 < n00kie> i think i have not added a gateway
22:22 < n00kie> can you please tell me the gateway command?
22:22 < n00kie> in man ifconfig i have not found anything
22:23 < scasb> sure, it is there
22:23 < n00kie> wait
22:23 < n00kie> i look again!
22:23 < scasb> ifconfig eth0 192.198.34.2 up
22:23 < scasb> make sure it ends in the subnet of the lan
22:24 < scasb> and later ..
22:24 < n00kie> eth0 is up with 192.168.0.4
22:24 < scasb> route add default gw 192.168.0.1 eth0
22:24 < scasb> (replace 192.168.0.1 with ur gw addr)
22:25 < n00kie> thank you very very much!!!
22:25 < n00kie> yes
22:25 < n00kie> you helped me!
22:25 < n00kie> hmm
22:25 < n00kie> when i wanna start irssi
22:25 < n00kie> it says
22:25 < n00kie> ** ERROR **: Couldn' create /home/n00kie/.irssi directory
22:25 < scasb> hehe
22:25 < n00kie> aborting
22:26 < n00kie> what should i do?
22:26 < _NULL> you don't have /home/n00kie have you?
22:26 < n00kie> i have
22:26 < tfing> is it owned by n00kie ?
22:26 < scasb> chown -r n00kie.users /home/n00kie
22:27 < n00kie> ah
22:27 < n00kie> thank you guys
22:27 < n00kie> now it works
22:27 < n00kie> i will come in rock now
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22:32 < n00kie> sorry
22:32 < n00kie> i don't understand
22:32 < n00kie> When I want to open with vim this file
22:32 < n00kie> it opens /etc/init.d/network
22:32 < n00kie> not /etc/init.d/network script
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22:33 < scasb> sure, network is the script!
22:33 < n00kie> this file is empty
22:33 < scasb> just see a little the script source and modify IP's
22:33 < n00kie> i have this file not
22:33 * _NULL not, too
22:33 < _NULL> /etc/init.d is not existent
22:33 < n00kie> "/etc/init.d/network script" [New File]
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22:34 < scasb> umm.... doe this directory changed in the 1.7 tree ??
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22:38 < n00kie_> ah
22:38 < scasb> n00kie: this will give u a global idea of how rock works and will allow u to expand ur possibilities
22:38 < n00kie_> this was already made automaticilly
22:39 < mauricio> scasb, what 'bout you?
22:39 < scasb> ?
22:40 < scasb> mauricio: im waiting for a partner to start coding an asm stuff concerned to java, pipelining, serial, parallel, and usb port :( ..
22:40 < mauricio> scasb :'(
22:40 < scasb> i need to present that work for holyday's wednesday :( -> because of Rodrigo Nunez :(
22:40 < scasb> and.. how did u come over here ?
22:41 < scasb> che ?
22:41 < scasb> btw..i met Che and a friend yesterday at night.
22:42 < mauricio> scasb, good luck!
22:42 < n00kie> can anyone please tell me the adress for the nvidia geforce drivers?
22:42 < n00kie> i have no xfree, so it is hard to get the adress
22:42 < _NULL> no xfree???
22:42 < n00kie> no
22:43 < n00kie> i work with console
22:43 < n00kie> because i have no nvidia drivers
22:43 < _NULL> ah so...
22:43 < n00kie> i must install them first
22:43 < scasb> this man is doing it in the good way
22:43 < n00kie> but i don't know the url
22:43 < scasb> well, there is a default nvidia driver included in xfree86
22:44 < n00kie> but this driver does not work with geforce 4:(
22:44 < scasb> but to get the power of nvidia in xfree86, .. mom
22:45 < n00kie> please no querry
22:45 < n00kie> i don't know how to read them in irssi
22:45 < _NULL> *ggg+
22:45 < scasb> CTRL-P, CTRL-N -> this switch windows in irssi
22:46 < _NULL> alt+numberofwindows
22:46 < scasb> or ALT-N (where N in the number of the window)
22:47 < n00kie_> ok
22:47 < n00kie_> ty
22:47 < mauricio> n00kie, https://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=linux_display_ia32_1.0-4349
22:47 < scasb> n00kie: the link i gave u is part of my old rock repos, the extension for optional/nvidia is there
22:48 < scasb> just use those links and use the build configuration by hand , do not apply it to rock source for now.
22:48 < scasb> thenx mauricio
22:49 < n00kie> ok
22:55 < scasb> i must leave right now
22:55 < scasb> bye all
22:56 < _NULL> bye scasb
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23:07 < A-Tui> how much disc space require ROCK 1.7 bulding?
23:08 < tfing> 2.3Go
23:08 < tfing> something like that
23:09 < A-Tui> ok tnx tfing
23:09 < n00kie_> anyone running geforce 4 nvidia drivers on rock linux 1.7 or 2.0 alpha?
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23:45 < [n00kie]> Hi
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