--- Log opened Tue Apr 15 00:00:37 2003
--- Day changed Tue Apr 15 2003
00:04 < daja77> gn8 you all, have a nice rest day or so :)
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00:51 < A-Tui> hi
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01:42 < n00kie> Hello!
01:42 < n00kie> Hi A-Tui! :)
01:44 < A-Tui> hola n00kie!
01:44 < A-Tui> how are you tonight?
01:45 < n00kie> good :)
01:46 < n00kie> I just reinstalled rock
01:46 < A-Tui> 1.7?
01:46 < n00kie> But nvidia packages won't download :(
01:46 < A-Tui> from source?
01:46 < n00kie> No
01:46 < n00kie> 1.7 binaries
01:46 < A-Tui> ahms ok
01:47 < n00kie> but i'm going to build it, when my system fully works!
01:47 < n00kie> i have a traffic flat
01:47 < n00kie> i just can download 4.5gigs a month :(
01:47 < A-Tui> i'm trying to build it from a debian system
01:47 < A-Tui> n00kie: :)
01:50 < n00kie> ah
01:50 < n00kie> from debian stable or unstable?
01:51 < n00kie> A-Tui:
01:51 < n00kie> :)
01:52 < A-Tui> well, fifty fifty :)
01:52 < A-Tui> i used it to test packages
01:52 < A-Tui> so, some packages are unstable
01:53 < n00kie> ah
01:53 < n00kie> Why don't you build rock from a rock system? :)
01:53 < A-Tui> becouse i have ROCK on laptop
01:54 < n00kie> hmm
01:54 < A-Tui> and i want to build it on the other machine, this way i can get machine on some days
01:54 < n00kie> ah :)
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01:55 < A-Tui> now i'm trying to solve problems on tools building
01:55 < xnp> I'm having problems with rock-1.5, the script/Download -base can not find some files !
01:56 < n00kie> xnp: Whats the error message?
01:58 < xnp> I'll paste the error msg!
01:58 < n00kie> yes
01:58 < n00kie> my error message is
01:58 < n00kie> Processing pattern downad/*/nvidia ...
01:58 < n00kie> And then it aborts ;/
01:58 < n00kie> :(
01:59 < xnp> cksum errors and Resolving sourceware.cygnus.com... failed: Host not found
01:59 < A-Tui> n00kie: take a look at dowloads/*/
01:59 < xnp> Error in server response, closing control connection.
01:59 < n00kie> A-Tui: How?
01:59 < n00kie> xnp: Maybe you should use another server
01:59 < A-Tui> ./tsa/nvidia
02:00 < A-Tui> look at dowloads/nsa/nvidia
02:00 < xnp> I can hear you!, .... and the server is...?
02:00 < xnp> -mirror ?
02:00 < n00kie> wait
02:00 < A-Tui> xnp, try to solve packages handly
02:01 < n00kie> yes :)
02:02 < n00kie> anyone using grub in here?
02:02 < A-Tui> n00kie: you have that entry?
02:02 < A-Tui> me no n00kie
02:03 < n00kie> A-Tui: I not tried
02:03 < xnp> hey, I'm new in rock, I dont want to bleed in my first installation!... ;(, do i need to download each file by my own! ?
02:04 < A-Tui> xnp: only if script can't do it
02:05 < A-Tui> try 1.7
02:07 < xnp> Hm..., I have downloaded like 500Mb and now I'm going to delete it!...., ok, and rock 1.7 doesn't fail this way !???
02:08 < A-Tui> on 1.7 i only needed to get one package handly
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02:12 * jhidalgo is not happy at all about his time wasted with 1.5 (Mike1 recomendation!)
02:12 < A-Tui> :)
02:15 < n00kie> lol jhidalgo
02:15 < n00kie> hmm
02:15 < n00kie> isn
02:16 < A-Tui> n00kie: what's mean lol?
02:16 < n00kie> 't it just ./scripts/Download -required for rock 1.7 ?
02:16 < n00kie> A-Tui: Laughing
02:16 < A-Tui> ok :)
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02:21 < A-Tui> hi kasc
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02:34 < n00kie> A-Tui: I got the Grub Config! :)
02:35 < A-Tui> n00kie: great!!!
02:35 < A-Tui> i'm think that i will try grub too
02:35 < A-Tui> seems to be more interesting than lilo
02:36 < n00kie> yes :)
02:36 < n00kie> i like grub more, because it is more sorted
02:36 < n00kie> on lilo everything is in one file
02:36 < n00kie> in grub you have for each config one file :)
02:37 < A-Tui> i never used grub :(
02:38 < A-Tui> it's more complicated?
02:38 < n00kie> no
02:38 < n00kie> i don't think
02:38 < n00kie> i think it is easier :)
02:38 < n00kie> lilo: used - 1.5years. - understood: never
02:39 < n00kie> grub: used - 2 days. - understood: in 2 days
02:39 < n00kie> A-Tui: :)
02:39 < A-Tui> XD
02:39 < A-Tui> n00kie: then i will try it :)
02:40 < A-Tui> one moment i'm going to rolling a cigarette :)
02:40 < n00kie> yes
02:40 < n00kie> haev fun :)
02:44 < A-Tui> re
02:45 < n00kie> wb A-Tui  :)
02:45 < A-Tui> re n00kie
02:46 < A-Tui> i'm writing a ascii graph with how Build-Target runs
02:46 < A-Tui> what others scripts call, etc...
02:48 < n00kie> cool :)
02:48 < A-Tui> this way maybe a found why cmd_wrapper.c fail
02:48 < A-Tui> s/a/i/
02:49 < n00kie> i see
02:58 < n00kie> A-Tui: I will try, if my grub works
02:58 < n00kie> brb
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03:26 < n00kie> re A-Tui :)
03:27 < A-Tui> re n00kie!
03:27 < A-Tui> how was grub?
03:27 < n00kie> I missed a line!
03:27 < n00kie> But now everything is okay :)
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03:31 < A-Tui> nice!
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03:42 < demian> ji
03:42 < n00kie> Hello demian!
03:42 < A-Tui> eih hola demian!
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03:43 < n00kie> oh
03:43 < n00kie> we have fullmoon :)
03:43 < demian> hello boys
03:44 < A-Tui> n00kie: time for wolfs!
03:45 < n00kie> auuuuuuuuu, A-Tui :)
03:46 < A-Tui> ;)
03:46 < A-Tui> here are a lot of wolves
03:47 < A-Tui> they are protected
03:47 < n00kie> we have no wolves
03:47 < n00kie> "You cannot kick wolve01 from #reallife. - wolve01 is a protected user" :)
03:47 < A-Tui> XD
04:00 < A-Tui> well guys, time to sleep
04:00 < A-Tui> cu all!
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04:18 < demian> cya guys. -> asm coding :(
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07:00 < esden> good morning
07:15 < rxr> 1hi esden
07:19 < esden> hi rxr 
07:20 < esden> rxr: how far is the sparc port? can you once more tell me the configuration I have to use to compile it?
07:21 < rxr> jups
07:21 < rxr> but I need to walk to uni now ...
07:21 < rxr> cu later
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07:23 < esden> ok ... I am of to uni too 
07:23 < esden> cu all
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08:07 < regalisia> "that horse which comes from bonaaaanzaaaa..."
08:07 < regalisia> chiquito rules!
08:07 < regalisia> Xd
08:07 < regalisia> hi all
08:07 < regalisia> anyone's up?
08:07 < regalisia> 8:07 am at Spain
08:40 < blindcoder> moin all
09:11 < _NULL> morning *yawn*
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09:32 < blindcoder> hi nully
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09:56 < regalisia> i'm going to install rock 1.6 pre3 iso
09:56 < regalisia> to compile rock 1.7
09:56 < regalisia> it's a good idea?
09:56 < regalisia> XD
09:58 < _NULL> regalisia: hi. why not the 1.7-isos?
09:58 < regalisia> where are?
09:59 < regalisia> iso.rocklinux.de?
09:59 < _NULL> http://www.rocklinux.de/mailing-list/rock-linux/2003-3/581.html
10:19 < ringo30> morning
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10:50 < ringo30> _NULL: thanks I am downloading :-)
10:51 < _NULL> ringo30: you're welcome. hi btw
11:00 < ringo30> hi NULL trying to compile enlightenment 0.16.5.
11:05 < _NULL> do you have success with it or not?
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11:25 < daja77> hi and bye :)
11:26 < _NULL> hi daja77
11:28 < daja77> hi _NULL :)
11:28 < ringo30> _NULL: nope something with freetype.
11:28 * daja77 has to go now :(
11:28 < daja77> bye
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11:37 < esden> hi all
11:37 < _NULL> hi esden
11:38 < esden> ahh is that nice ... alpha building propperly ... but I will have to alter kernel building a bit ...
11:41 < blindcoder> moin esden
11:41 * -> esden -> food
11:51 < ringo30> NULL: enlightenment works again  :-)
11:54 < _NULL> congrats
12:01 * blindcoder thinks about whether he should have lunch or not
12:10 < n00kie> Hello _Null, blindcoder :)
12:11 < _NULL> hi n00kie
12:16 < ringo30> blindcoder: you skated yesterday you'll need the calories ;-)
12:21 < blindcoder> ringo30: nah, I'll skate again today. I need to loose some 30 kilos...
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12:38 < esden> re
12:39 < _NULL> wb esden
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12:44 < ringo30> blindcoder: hmm I am not a regular eater, I think I eat to less, sometimes a whole day not ;-)
12:44 < blindcoder> re esden
12:44 < blindcoder> ringo30: well.. all I ate yesterday was a slice of braed...
12:46 < ringo30> blindcoder: ok, some people have a fast metabolism some dont, I have a fast one I can eat anything and not grow.
12:48 < esden> re blindcoder 
12:48 * blindcoder spits some pure envy to ringo30 
12:50 * -> esden has eaten two lunches today ;-) apropos eating everything you want ;-)
12:50 < ringo30> blindcoder: sorry to be born that way.
12:51 * _NULL has eaten almost nothing since friday
13:08 * -> esden -> lecture
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13:36 < n00kie> Hello!
13:36 < n00kie> I have a problem
13:36 < n00kie> When I type in
13:37 < n00kie> ./scripts/Download -package -nvidia in /usr/bin/rock-src
13:37 < n00kie> i says
13:37 < n00kie> Processing pattern download/*/-nvidia...
13:37 < n00kie> and then i aborts
13:38 < n00kie> ah :)
13:38 < blindcoder> just nviida
13:38 < n00kie> yes
13:38 < blindcoder> not -nvidia
13:38 < n00kie> yes
13:38 < n00kie> i tried it again
13:38 < n00kie> without the -
13:38 < n00kie> and it worked :)
13:38 < n00kie> blindcoder: And I build it with ./scripts/Build-pkg nvidia?
13:38 < blindcoder> yes
13:39 < n00kie> ah
13:39 < n00kie> thank you :)
13:40 < n00kie> Hmm
13:40 < n00kie> ./scripts/Build-pkg nvidia: file or directory not found
13:42 < n00kie> it was Build-Pkg :)
13:44 < n00kie> hmm
13:44 < n00kie> blindcoder: There is a problem
13:44 < n00kie> I get some error messages
13:46 < n00kie> It cannot find the nvidia package
13:47 < blindcoder> erm
13:47 < blindcoder> then you have a typo somevhere
13:48 < n00kie> hmm
13:48 < n00kie> i don't think
13:48 < n00kie> because it has successfully downloaded the package
13:48 < n00kie> but i'll try again
13:49 < n00kie> maybe it has deleted it
13:50 < n00kie> hmm
13:50 < n00kie> but the NVIDIA_kernel file does exist
13:52 < n00kie> hmm
13:52 < n00kie> maybe the file is corrupted
13:53 < capchaos> n00kie, try it by hand?
13:53 < n00kie> later :)
13:53 < n00kie> first i will try it again
13:53 < n00kie> i have removed the gd.tuwien.at mirror
13:54 < n00kie> i think the file on this mirror is corrupted
13:54 < capchaos> If it'd be corrupted there would be a cksum error
13:54 < blindcoder> the nvidia package install the nvidia-driver for XFree
13:54 < blindcoder> and the directory /usr/src/NVIDIA_kernel
13:55 < blindcoder> the kernel module must be recompiled whenever you install new kernelmodules
13:55 < n00kie> ok
13:56 < n00kie> Yes
13:56 < n00kie> now it worked
13:56 < n00kie> The file was corrupted!!
13:56 < n00kie> With the package from another mirror (ftp.leo.org) it was built successfully
14:00 < n00kie> i will now try to run x :)
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14:03 < _NULL> re
14:03 < capchaos> re null
14:09 < esden> re hi all
14:09 < capchaos> hi esden
14:09 < _NULL> wb esden
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14:10 < esden> hi n00kie 
14:10 < n00kie> Hello esden!
14:12 * -> esden loves studying!!!
14:13 < capchaos> esden, what happened?
14:13 < _NULL> capchaos: he mutated...
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14:14 * -> esden had two very neat lectures today: "Statistic and Neuronal Learning" _and_ "Operating Systems"
14:14 * -> esden is in jump mood *jumping_all_around* ;-)
14:15 < esden> and I say it with no irony
14:15 < esden> please do not missunderstand me
14:15 < esden> and next thing that really rulez is that I will make my bachelor thesis about selinux ;-)
14:16 * -> esden bought a book "IT-Sicherheit" by C. Eckert as introductory lecture for this work
14:16 < esden> and this book _RULEZ_
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14:16 < esden> huhu blindcoder 
14:17 < blindcoder> hihi esden
14:17 * blindcoder thinks about going shopping... beer is empty
14:17 * -> esden still has a half full box ;-)
14:17 < n00kie> Can anyone tell me a good icq client?
14:18 < blindcoder> well.... if you put it this way... one box is half-full, the other one is empty
14:18 < _NULL> n00kie: centericq
14:18 < blindcoder> n00kie: licq
14:18 < _NULL> blindcoder: bllll :p
14:18 < blindcoder> _NULL: don't show me your tongue if you're not geing to use it
14:18 < n00kie> Ah
14:18 < _NULL> blindcoder: ...
14:18 < blindcoder> n00kie: ROCK has a package for licq, but not centericq IIRC :D
14:19 < n00kie> Can I use with licq my icq list from the icq servers?
14:19 < blindcoder> n00kie: yes
14:19 < blindcoder> n00kie: in theory, at least
14:19 < n00kie> ok, then i will try :)
14:19 < _NULL> n00kie: centericq too... :p
14:19 < blindcoder> I never used server-side cotnact list
14:19 < n00kie> ./scripts/Download -package licq ?
14:19 < esden> blindcoder: also in practic !
14:19 < blindcoder> licq has a QT/KDE-GUI :D
14:19 < _NULL> and centericq is console-client *vbeg*
14:19 < blindcoder> _NULL: licq has a CLI, too :D
14:19 < _NULL> *hrhr* let's start the licq<-->centericq-war
14:20 < blindcoder> _NULL: licq also has a telnet interface :D
14:20 < _NULL> blindcoder: yeah. but first you need to compile the stupid plugin for licq
14:20 < esden> weee ... an icq client flamewar ... owl, blindcoder go go go go go !!!
14:20 < _NULL> esden: :ppp
14:20 * capchaos jumps in with ysm
14:20 < blindcoder> _NULL: licq has SSL-Support!
14:20 < _NULL> blindcoder: dunno if centericq has SSL
14:21 < blindcoder> *STRIKE*
14:21 * blindcoder wins!
14:21 < _NULL> blindcoder: centericq is faster
14:21 < _NULL> looks better :p more comfortable imho
14:21 * _NULL wins :p
14:21 < capchaos> ysm uses encryption too and is fast *g
14:21 < esden> god prize blindcoder the winner!!!
14:21 < _NULL> capchaos: and is not comfortable :p
14:21 < blindcoder> _NULL: licq has never been anywhere near slow here, but cenericq has already messed up #gametome TWICE!
14:21 < capchaos> _NULL, compiles better than center-icq :P
14:22 < _NULL> blindcoder: then it's maybe a problem between chair and keyboard...?
14:22 < esden> blindcoder: what has centericq to do with irc ?
14:22 < blindcoder> esden: it has an IRC plugin *blech*
14:22 < _NULL> capchaos: yes. but... :p
14:22 < esden> rofl ... cicq sux!!
14:23 < blindcoder> okay, I need to go shopping now
14:23 < blindcoder> bbl
14:23 < esden> icq client should be icq client an not outlook clone ;-)
14:23 < capchaos> blindcoder, choose a nice beer!
14:23 < n00kie> Have Fun, blindcoder
14:23 < blindcoder> capchaos: Gutmann, of course :D
14:23 < _NULL> bye blindcoder
14:23 < esden> have fun blindcoder 
14:23 < capchaos> never heard
14:23 < rolla> == 07:23:34 =[5]=> Building gnome2/orbit224 [2.4.4 1.7-snapshot].
14:23 < capchaos> Anyone tried YSM ?
14:24 < capchaos> It's working better than centericq for me
14:24 < n00kie> Is there any way to search out the packages ?
14:25 < n00kie> maybe, when I type in ./scripts/Search -package icq, it shows me all packages with icq?
14:25 < capchaos> n00kie, ./scripts/Download -list-missing |grep <package>  for example
14:25 < n00kie> ah, thank you
14:25 < n00kie> :)
14:25 < capchaos> |grep -i icq
14:25 < capchaos> :)
14:26 < n00kie> n00kie@n0nsense# ./scripts/Download -list-missing | grep -i icq
14:26 < n00kie> download/blindcoder/licq/licq-1.2.4.tar.bz2
14:26 < n00kie> :)
14:26 < blindcoder> n00kie: ls -l package/* | grep -i icq
14:26 < blindcoder> dammit, I'm still not gone >_<
14:27 < capchaos> blindcoder, the beer is waiting for you
14:27 * capchaos musing about taking some nice packages to the rock ports when sources arrive 
14:27 < blindcoder> yeah, but I have to collect the empty bottles first, which is why I sit in my chair.
14:27 < blindcoder> The bottles are all in arms-reach :)
14:28 < capchaos> I know what an agony that is ;)
14:29 < blindcoder> and while I'm at it.... I think I should open the windows... after 2 weeks now...
14:29 < capchaos> Yeah one can smell it even here! :P
14:30 < blindcoder> I don't think the stench^Wsmell reaches non-existing cities
14:30 < capchaos> I'm not living in BI
14:30 < blindcoder> okay, Jelly-Beans are eaten... erm beer bottles collected
14:30 < blindcoder> baba
14:30 < _NULL> bye
14:31 < esden> cu blindcoder 
14:34 < n00kie> hmm
14:34 < n00kie> bash-2.05b$ gimp &
14:34 < n00kie> [1] 22203
14:34 < n00kie> bash-2.05b$ gimp: fatal error: Speicherzugriffsfehler
14:34 < n00kie> What does this mean?
14:34 < esden> n00kie: segfault
14:34 < n00kie> should i enter this?
14:35 < esden> no ... it means segfault
14:35 < esden> or Memmory access error
14:35 < esden> or Segmentation Fault
14:35 < esden> or ... 
14:35 < n00kie> ah
14:36 < n00kie> and what can I do, that this does not happen?
14:36 < esden> it also means that gimp is broken
14:36 < esden> you can open a debugger and debug gimp ;-)
14:36 < n00kie> hmm
14:36 < n00kie> and when gimp is not broken?
14:37 < esden> segfaults occure when software broken.
14:37 < esden> kapish?
14:37 * -> esden -> home
14:38 < n00kie> sh
14:38 < n00kie> ah
14:38 < n00kie> ok :)
14:43 < n00kie> blindcoder: Bist du da?
14:43 < n00kie> I mean, are you here?
14:44 < blindcoder> jo, bin wieder da
14:44 * blindcoder is back
14:44 < n00kie> ok
14:45 * n00kie is going to compile sim-icq :)
14:45 < _NULL> sim-icq???
14:46 < n00kie> yes
14:46 < _NULL> url? (/me too lazy too search)
14:46 * blindcoder ponders what game he could play now
14:46 < n00kie> http://sim-icq.sourceforge.net
14:46 < _NULL> thx
14:46 < n00kie> blindcoder: Solitair :)
14:46 < _NULL> blindcoder: no game. C O D E !!!
14:47 < blindcoder> _NULL: nah. boring
14:48 < n00kie> hmm
14:48 < n00kie> configure says, i don't have qt installed
14:48 < n00kie> But there is qt 3.1 ?
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14:50 < blindcoder> hm... is it posible to pipe Line-In directly to Line-Out/Headphone?
14:51 < blindcoder> ah... nevermind
14:51 < n00kie> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
14:52 < blindcoder> does QTDIR point to the correct Qt-Installaton?
14:52 < n00kie> How can I see this?
14:53 < blindcoder> echo $QTDIR # !!!
14:53 < n00kie> hmm
14:53 < n00kie> there comes just a empty line
14:54 < blindcoder> so it doesn't
14:54 < blindcoder> export QTDIR="/path/to/qt"
14:54 < blindcoder> ./configure --whatever
14:54 < n00kie> ah
14:54 < n00kie> ok :)
14:54 < n00kie> thank you!
14:55 < n00kie> export QTDIR="/opt/qt" ?
14:56 < rolla> QT evil
14:57 < blindcoder> rolla: QT almost unavoidable.
14:57 < n00kie> blindcoder: Must i do export as root ?
14:57 < rolla> ?
14:57 < blindcoder> no
14:58 < rolla> i do not have qy on any of my systems
14:58 < rolla> s/qy/qt/
14:58 < n00kie> ok
14:58 < n00kie> i will try again
14:58 < blindcoder> rolla: okay. But I prefer Graphics over CLI
14:58 < n00kie> hmm
14:58 < n00kie> blindcoder: Same error again
14:58 < rolla> I have X on all my systems still don't need qt ;)
14:59 < blindcoder> rolla: okay, if you like gnome
14:59 < _NULL> hi rolla
14:59 < rolla> that indeed I do
14:59 < blindcoder> rolla: but I like arson, and arson is a KDE-App. Tell me how to avoid Qt
14:59 < rolla> but just cause you don't use KDE doesn't mean you have to use gnome
14:59 < blindcoder> rolla: but tons of apps use their libs
14:59 < rolla> blindcoder: don't use arson :)
14:59 < blindcoder> I personally u-se iceWM
14:59 < blindcoder> rolla: no option
14:59 < rolla> :)
14:59 < rolla> how so
15:00 < rolla> arson; was ist das?
15:00 < rolla> re _NULL
15:00 < blindcoder> look it up on freshmeat, it's very complex
15:00 < blindcoder> CD-Ripping / burning Tool
15:00 < rolla> bah
15:01 < blindcoder> support for ogg/mpg123, cdparanoia, cdrecard, cdrdao, freedb, cdindex etal
15:01 < blindcoder> support for ogg/mpg123, cdparanoia, cdrecard, cdrdao, freedb, cdindex et al
15:01 < rolla> gnometoaster is a fine app :)
15:01 < rolla> blindcoder: I am just messing with you use what you like is my thing :)
15:01 < rolla> I just hate qt and KDE cause C++ code is slow to compile
15:01 < blindcoder> good :)
15:01 < blindcoder> but C++ is nice to code :)
15:02 < rolla> nein
15:02 * rolla us ksh perl 
15:02 < blindcoder> wel. yeah.. I _could_ use PHP to draw OpenGL, too, you know...
15:02 * rolla is not a coder :)
15:17 < esden> re ih all
15:17 < _NULL> wb esden
15:20 < rolla> anyone know of a good rock 1.7 mirror?
15:21 < Mike1> ftp://linux.mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de/pub/linux/distributions/rocklinux/
15:22 < capchaos> hi mikey
15:22 < rolla> curl: (10) the username and/or the password are incorrect
15:22 < Mike1> moin all.
15:22 < Mike1> rolla: 0_o
15:23 < capchaos> M$ wants to port its Media Player to Linux *lol*
15:23 < Mike1> thats not possible, i have been using this mirror
15:23 < Mike1> capy lol
15:23 < rolla> ./scripts/Download -mirror ftp://linux.mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de/pub/linux/distributions/rocklinux/ROCK-1.7/ -required
15:23 < Mike1> rolla: ack.
15:24 < rolla> it asks for a password
15:24 < _NULL> hi Mike1
15:24 < Mike1> wtf, mom rolla
15:24 < Mike1> hi _NULL *BEAR HUG*
15:24 < n00kie> Holla Mike1 :)
15:25 < Mike1> rolla: it works perfect for me and no pass asked
15:26 < Mike1> n00kie: moin :)
15:26 < rolla> well I think it is al limt for users?
15:26 < n00kie> Mike1: Cómo está usted hoy?
15:26 < Mike1> rolla: don't think so
15:26 < n00kie> :)
15:26 < Mike1> mirror ftp://linux.mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de/pub/linux/distributions/rocklinux/ROCK-1.7/ -required
15:26 < Mike1> Downloading download/rene/libxml2/libxml2-2.5.6.tar.gz ...
15:26 < Mike1> ######################################################################## 100.0%
15:26 < Mike1> Finished downloading 2360070 bytes in 95.444 seconds (24727.275 bytes/sec).
15:26 < Mike1> cksum-test (bzip2): download/rene/libxml2/libxml2-2.5.6.tar.bz2
15:27 < Mike1> n00kie: muy bien gracias y usted?
15:27 * Mike1 listening to limp bizkit - nookie :P
15:28 < n00kie> Mike1: Hehe, parecer usted me entiende:)
15:28 < Mike1> n00kie: claro, si te entiendo. :)
15:29 < n00kie> ehehe :)
15:29 < rolla> Finished downloading 0 bytes in 0.000 seconds (0.000 bytes/sec).
15:29 < rolla> curl: (10) the username and/or the password are incorrect
15:29 < rolla> ERROR: CURL Returned Error 10. Please read the curl manpage.
15:30 < Mike1> rolla: ouch!
15:30 < capchaos> rolla, Mike1 here it says "Sorry.. too many anonymous users"
15:31 < rolla> see
15:31 < Mike1> lol, so how come it works perfect for me?
15:32 < rolla> must be nice
15:33 * Mike1 aborting one of his downloads
15:34 < Mike1> rolla: quick try
15:34 < n00kie> I will go to bed :)
15:34 < n00kie> Brb, sleeping
15:34 < Mike1> n00kie: but its so damn early!!!
15:34 < _NULL> n00kie: sleeping?!!! O_o
15:34 < n00kie> I am tired :)
15:35 < _NULL> wuah. all this lazy students.
15:35 < capchaos> *gg*
15:35 < Mike1> n00kie: no sleeping is needed for you , just get some coffee and code!
15:35 < Mike1> _NULL: well you are lazy too so :P
15:35 < n00kie> eheh :)
15:36 < _NULL> Mike1: nah. i'm not a student. and: i'm at work.
15:36 < Mike1> _NULL: i work and also assist to uni and i am _not_ lazy
15:36 * _NULL 's windows is doing suicide
15:36 < _NULL> Mike1: ok, ok. then you're a exception
15:36 < Mike1> _NULL: thats normal in windows don't worry.
15:37 < Mike1> _NULL: well :)
15:37 < _NULL> 476 MB RAM &&  100 % CPU... just to delete the trash... and still growing
15:39 < esden> "Training Day" that film rulez ;-)
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15:40 < _NULL> esden: don't watch so much films, lazy student :p
15:40 < Mike1> _NULL: why not? he codes.
15:40 < _NULL> Mike1: ???
15:41 < _NULL> TV/movies/whatever are evil :p
15:41 < Mike1> _NULL: why wouldn't esden see movies? he sure does big contributions, and _sometimes_ he can have time for himself... _sometimes_
15:41 < Mike1> :P
15:42 < _NULL> so you mean "almost never"
15:42 < Mike1> ack :)
15:43 < _NULL> Mike1: don't you think that 3 hours of sleep are enough time to have for himself?
15:44 < Mike1> _NULL: 3 hours a day?!?! Aliens could die for over sleeping, and imho that is way too much sleep for one day.
15:44 < _NULL> hehe :p
15:45 < _NULL> <-- off: train. cya
15:45 < capchaos> cya nulli
15:45 < _NULL> bye cap :)
15:45 * -> esden currently working on alpha port and watching a film ... so do not complain
15:46 < Mike1> esden: Good.
15:46 < esden> hmm ... getting a glass of glenfiddich
15:48 < esden> ahh ... tasty
15:48 < rolla> there is no coreutils dir
15:50 < esden> fsck acl is not building >_<
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15:55 < daja77> re
15:58 < Mike1> hi daja77
15:58 < daja77> hey Mike1
15:59 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@N297P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux
15:59 < daja77> huhu n00kie
15:59 < n00kie> Hello daja77 :)
16:00 * daja77 had a nice lecture about realtime OS today
16:02 < esden> huhu daja77 
16:02 < daja77> huhu esden :)
16:05 < blindcod1r> WEEEEEEEEEEEE
16:05 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder
16:05 < daja77> hey blindcoder what's up
16:05 < blindcoder> My parents bought a coffee-machine
16:05 < blindcoder> *click* espresso
16:05 < blindcoder> *click* cappuccino
16:05 < blindcoder> *click* 'normal' coffee
16:06 < blindcoder> WEEEEEEEEEEE
16:06 < daja77> you are the power user there I guess
16:06 < blindcoder> MUHAHAHA :)
16:06 * blindcoder taking ThinkGeek Stainless-Steel Coffe-Mug with Caffeine Molecule printed on it
16:06 < blindcoder> Power User? Me?
16:06 < daja77> power drinker
16:07 < blindcoder> hehe
16:10 < n00kie> Hmm
16:10 * daja77 likes to kick someone
16:10 < blindcoder> WEEE
16:10 < Mike1> kick me kick me
16:10 < blindcoder> overtook Kin and Gin on the finishing line!
16:10 * daja77 kicks Mike1 int the groins
16:10 < daja77> into
16:10 < Mike1> please do it again. beat the hell out of me
16:10 < blindcoder> brb, more coffee :)
16:11 < daja77> *g*
16:11 < daja77> Mike1: why
16:11 < n00kie> Hmm
16:12 < n00kie> Where must I place the nautilus icons?
16:12 < daja77> trash can >:->
16:12 < Mike1> daja77: just do it, i need it.
16:12 < n00kie> heh daja
16:12 * daja77 grabs a club
16:13 < Mike1> n00kie: don't listen to daja77, put them on /dev/null
16:13 < n00kie> yeah Mike1 :P
16:13 < daja77> heh Mike
16:13 < n00kie> hmm
16:13 < n00kie> lol
16:21 < daja77> n00kie: if you have some time left, could you please nurse Mike1 a bit?
16:22 < Mike1> 0_o
16:22 < n00kie> He must go threw world alone :P
16:22 < daja77> parse error
16:22 < n00kie> hmm
16:23 < n00kie> n00kie vs. icewm
16:23 < daja77> I bet on icewm *vbeg*
16:23 < n00kie> Restarting X :)
16:23 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@N297P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Remote closed the connection)
16:25 < daja77> *argh* my hand hurts
16:26 < Mike1> cut it off and it won't hurt anymore.
16:26 < daja77> but I can't code after that
16:27 < Mike1> then don't complain and code! :)
16:27 < daja77> I do but it hurts and makes me angry
16:28 * Mike1 pets daja77... don't be angry
16:28 < daja77> *aaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh*
16:30 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@N297P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux
16:30 < n00kie_> re
16:30 < daja77> n00kie_: what about icewm
16:31 < Mike1> n00kie_: daja77 needs to be hugged
16:32 < n00kie_> daja77: Won't start
16:32 < Mike1> n00kie_:  wmaker.inst ... startx ...
16:33 * daja77 is now doin the most boring part in coding rt target
16:33 < Mike1> daja77: what? docs?
16:34 < daja77> Mike1: nah mapping options from one format to the other
16:34 < n00kie_> Mike1: I don't use WMaker ;)
16:34 < Mike1> k.
16:34 < Mike1> n00kie_: :P
16:35 < n00kie_> hmm
16:35 < n00kie_> I cannot use Servericqlists with lICQ
16:35 < n00kie_> Licq is a bad program.
16:35 < n00kie_> ;)
16:35 < capchaos> use ysm ;)
16:35 < daja77> huhu capchaos
16:35 < capchaos> <URL:http://ysmv7.sf.net>
16:35 < capchaos> huhu
16:36 < Mike1> n00kie_: you have to understand that i am newbie here, so don't have much tech stuff to advice with..
16:36 < daja77> Mike1: *rofl*
16:37 < Mike1> daja77: why do you laught?
16:37 < daja77> Mike1: you a newbie...
16:37 < Mike1> sure :)
16:39 < blindcoder> *lol*
16:39 < blindcoder> I like this game
16:39 < Mike1> blindcoder: ?
16:39 < blindcoder> I've been last place alfway through... and finished 2 secs in advance!
16:39 < blindcoder> Mike1: Slipstream 5000
16:39 < blindcoder> an age-old DOS 3D-Racing Game
16:40 < Mike1> nice
16:40 < daja77> ah yes heard of it
16:40 < daja77> it never worked quite well at the time I used it
16:40 * Mike1 is happy with his mortal combat rom :)
16:42 < daja77> hehe, why do you me to kick you then, use force feedback :P
16:43 < Mike1> use the force.... mmm... meditate on this, i will.
16:44 < daja77> Mike has a green face .oO
16:45 < Mike1> :)
16:45 < daja77> may the force of sgi be with you...
16:46 < Mike1> send me the sgi and it will.
16:46 < daja77> nah you'll need a farm of sgi's for this
16:47 < Mike1> send it over..
16:47 < daja77> btw, they use linux now @ lucasfilm
16:47 < daja77> Mike1: I don't have any :(
16:47 < Mike1> daja77: just buy a new one and sedn it over to me.
16:48 < daja77> Mike1: if you pay me...
16:48 < Mike1> the force will pay you.
16:49 < daja77> yeah I'll send yu one through telepathy
16:53 < daja77> hmm those guys wrote some vars in .config which you could not configure .oO
16:55 < Mike1> what guys?
16:55 < daja77> rtai developers
16:55 < Mike1> arg.
16:56 < blindcoder> ROCK-Target Artificial Intelligence?
16:56 < daja77> blindcoder: http://www.rtai.org
16:57 < daja77> Mike1: I'll copy this options without asking just like them
16:58 < blindcoder> hmm... doesn't ook like something I need...
16:58 < daja77> blindcoder: doesn't matter :P
16:59 < blindcoder> :)
17:00 < Mike1> blindcoder: it would be fun to play with it.
17:01 < blindcoder> well... since I have no idea what "Real-Time OS" means...
17:01 < blindcoder> what's the dif7erence to a "common OS"?
17:01 < Mike1> daja77: ?
17:02 < daja77> mom, busy
17:04 < daja77> well basic difference is that you can do a more precise scheduling, e.g. if you want a process to be scheduled every 100ms it will be run, no matter what the kernel was doin this time
17:04 < blindcoder> hmm... nice
17:05 < daja77> very useful for controlling purposes
17:05 < blindcoder> mhm
17:05 < daja77> btw, the linux kernel is the idle task of the rtai scheduler :)
17:07 < daja77> I'd like to tell you more, but I have to go now :(
17:07 < blindcoder> np
17:07 < Mike1> :((
17:08 < daja77> Mike1: don't worry, cu
17:08 < Mike1> cu daja77
17:08 < daja77> bye you all
17:08 < blindcoder> baba
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17:12 < blindcoder> muahahaha
17:12 < blindcoder> nothing like cheating :D
17:14 * Mike1 falling asleep...
17:14 < Mike1> oh no i shouldn't have stayed awake that late last night
17:14 < blindcoder> hehe
17:15 < Mike1> blindcoder: i bought a new guitar so i was playing with untill 4am
17:15 < blindcoder> nice :)
17:15 < Mike1> and yes mom was kinda pissed :)
17:15 < capchaos> Mike1, what kind of guitar?
17:15 < Mike1> capy electric of course.
17:15 < capchaos> a or e ? :)
17:16 < capchaos> What brand?
17:16 < Mike1> capy i already an a and ea.
17:16 < Mike1> already have.
17:16 < Mike1> capy nah just a yamaha.
17:16 < capchaos> Well, yamaha sounds not bad
17:17 < Mike1> capy sure :)
17:17 < capchaos> I have a yamaha too, so.. :)
17:17 < Mike1> capchaos: we will play together sometime :)
17:17 < Mike1> blindcoder: is welcome to join too.
17:17 < capchaos> Sure! Have to practise a lot though
17:18 < capchaos> Hehe blindcoder will be our drummer
17:18 < blindcoder> I can't play any instrument
17:18 < Mike1> blindcoder: can't you play the organ...?
17:19 < Mike1> blindcoder: maybe you can sign..
17:19 < Mike1> sing*
17:19 < capchaos> Owl will sing with us. We'll need a dusty female voice ;)
17:20 < Mike1> sure _NULL will kick ass.
17:20 < blindcoder> sing... erm...
17:21 < Mike1> blindcoder: or you can scream :)
17:21 < blindcoder> yeah, that's good Q)
17:21 < Mike1> mm... icecream...
17:22 * Mike1 hungry.
17:22 < esden> Mike1: then eat something ;-)
17:22 < Mike1> esden in a moment i will for sure :)
17:24 < esden> good ;-)
17:24 < Mike1> BTW Gott segne dich esden
17:24 < esden> god bless you too mmb ;-)
17:25 < Mike1> esden: i don't deserve the mmb name.
17:25 < blindcoder> mmb?
17:26 < Mike1> blindcoder: just some naming that mpet and i use
17:29 < esden> Mike1: yes you deserve it if you mean that I deserve mpet ;-)
17:30 < Mike1> ok :)
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17:31 < esden> blindcoder should be called mbs ;-)
17:32 < Mike1> esden: yeah we shall call him mbs :)
17:32 < esden> hmm ... the 1.7 cvs should be on a faster machine/connection >_<
17:32 < Mike1> esden: FULL ACK.
17:33 * -> esden getting cvs mirroring software
17:33 < jose> so files can not be found in the ./script/Download proccess!: libglide3-v3.so, sudo-1.6.7p3.tar.gz, and powermanga.tar.gz, in rock 1.7, what is that powermanga ?
17:33 < Mike1> esden: you mean rsync?
17:34 < Mike1> jose: powermanga is a game.
17:34 < esden> is the clifford cvs avalable over rsync?o_O
17:34 < jose> sed 's/so/some/'
17:34 < esden> or have I missed something?
17:34 < Mike1> esden: i don't think its available on rsync.. but maybe you can talk to him about it
17:34 < esden> jose: it is a fps game?
17:34 * -> esden writing email
17:35 < Mike1> esden: good.
17:38 < Mike1> brb /me eating something, as requested by mpet.
17:39 < esden> mail out
17:39 < esden> lol
18:00 < esden> ok ... first of all a mirror for myself with cvssuck ;-)
18:00 < jose> where can i download libglide3-v3.so for my rock 1.7 almost done!
18:01 < Mike1> 0_o esden = cvs sucker?
18:01 < esden> Mike1: yes I am a sucker ;-)
18:03 < jose> Mike1: did I told you that my ip is in the gd.tuwien.ac.at ?, I know that because I try to use cvs yestarday without problems from itcr, and from here I just got timeout's!
18:04 < esden> god is that slooow ... *sigh*
18:04 < jose> sed 's/ip/is in the..../ ip is in the gb.tuwein.ac.cr blacklist/'
18:04 < Mike1> jose: actually none of us were able to use tuwien yesterday
18:05 < jose> Mike1: strange because I used cvs yestarday from itcr!....
18:05 < Mike1> jose: yes but there we problems sometime during the afternoon / n8
18:06 < Mike1> jose: anyways tell me what packages you need and i will give them to you
18:06 < jose> Mike1: libglade3-v3
18:07 < Mike1> odin:~ # uptime
18:07 < Mike1>  10:01am  up 254 days, 18 min,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
18:08 < jose> hm...., Mike1: uname -a ?
18:08 -!- jose is now known as jhidalgo
18:08 < Mike1> Linux mail 2.4.4 #9 SMP Mon May 21 22:31:36 PDT 2001 sparc64 unknown
18:09 < Mike1> :P
18:09 < jhidalgo> Mike1: sparc64!, u want me to hate u?
18:10 < Mike1> :D
18:10 < Mike1> why would you wanna hate me?
18:11 < jhidalgo> Mike1: because of your arch!, no problem, thats my problem! ;(
18:11 < Mike1> Linux lucy 2.4.9 #1 Fri Jun 8 13:20:17 EDT 2001 alpha unknown
18:12 < Mike1> maybe you like that one better?
18:12 * Mike1 trying to piss jhidalgo :)
18:13 < jhidalgo> Rock is having 1.1G of my drive with just the src's (-required), how much should I need for my build ?
18:14 < Mike1> jhidalgo: 1.2gb
18:14 < jhidalgo> ups! :|
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18:15 < jhidalgo> e
18:16 * jhidalgo is taking his rock dir to a server with raid! 
18:16 < Mike1> *gggggggg*
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18:22 < esden> ok ... logging for #rocklinux-talk set up ;-)
18:23 < Mike1> :)
18:24 < esden> tztz Mike1 you are a kid ;-)
18:24 < Mike1> why?
18:24 < Mike1> *ggg*
18:25 < esden> Mike1: because you have always to make fun ;-)
18:25 < esden> but that is ok ;-)
18:25 < Mike1> what would be of life without fun?
18:25 < Mike1> :)
18:25 * -> esden drinking beer out of his 2l bottle ;-)
18:26 * Mike1 stares at esden hoping he will have one botle for him..
18:26 * -> esden hands over his bottle to Mike1 
18:26 < esden> anyone else?
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18:26 < Mike1> esden: shhhhh! is mine!
18:26 < esden> Mike1: be carefull alcohol is making you dizzy and stupid ;-)
18:26 < tfing> esden: i prefer the beer which is next to me, it's more real ;)
18:27 < esden> tfing: :P
18:27 < Mike1> esden: no virtual beer will afect me no worries
18:27 < esden> Mike1: MUAHAHAHA you bet?
18:27 < Mike1> esden: virtual...
18:27 < Mike1> :)
18:28 * tfing finally got his mutt with header caching package correct
18:28 < esden> you are also virtual Mike1 since I have never seen you ir ... so a virtual beer will make you dizzy/stupid ... ;-)
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18:29 < Mike1> esden: ok you got me i am not a mortal..
18:29 < esden> Mike1: you see
18:29 < Mike1> esden: but neither you are mpet
18:29 < esden> and if you drink too much virtual beer you will have to live stupid till end of the time ;-)
18:29 < esden> I am mortal ... do you wanna bet?
18:29 * Mike1 gives beer back to esden and get some orange juice.
18:30 < esden> hmm ... ok ;-)
18:30 < Mike1> esden: nah you are an alien :)
18:32 < esden> you got me ... narf
18:32 < Mike1> :)
18:35 < jhidalgo> Finishing build.
18:37 < Mike1> jhidalgo: yeah right, in 5 minutes?
18:38 < esden> Mike1: perhups he ported linux to a cray and is compiling rock on it ;-)
18:38 < Mike1> hehe
18:39 < Mike1> it still take me several ours on my lame dual athlon xp 2400mhz
18:39 < Mike1> hours*
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18:49 < kasc_> moinsen
18:49 < Mike1> Hallo kasc_
18:50 < kasc_> why does the weather always have to change that fast? *sweatdrop*
18:51 < jhidalgo> nopi
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19:03 < esden> kasc_: that is the new age weather ;-)
19:09 < jhidalgo> who is the mantainer of binutils in 1.7, I'm having problems!? ;(
19:11 < esden> radioparadise rulez ;-)
19:12 < esden> jhidalgo: look in packages/base/binutils/binutils.desc and you will see that it is clifford who is the maintainer ;-)
19:29 < esden> ahh rock rulez
19:29 < Mike1> indeed MPET.
19:29 < esden> I mean not only the rocklinux but also the music ;-)
19:29 < Mike1> :P
19:32 < esden> Mike1: see www.radioparadise.com
19:34 < Mike1> nice, thx.
19:34 < jhidalgo> men, my build-target is giving errors in almost every package! ;( , errors like: Cross_CC_not_built_so_far_cc, is that normal ?
19:34 < Mike1> no it is not normal
19:34 < Mike1> jhidalgo: what system are you building on?
19:36 < jhidalgo> woody
19:37 < Mike1> are using debian unstable?
19:37 < jhidalgo> nop!
19:38 < Mike1> mm... /me is.
19:40 < esden> rofl cvsup is wirtten in modula-3 ... some guys really have problems with their minds ...
19:43 < esden> hmm ... I had such a problem some time ago with dietlibc target ... but that is one month ago or so ...
19:45 < esden> weasel@apollo:~$ uptime
19:45 < esden> 19:45:00 up 330 days, 19:53,  3 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.02
19:45 < esden> muahaha
19:45 < esden> weasel@apollo:~$ uname -a
19:45 < esden> Linux apollo 2.4.17 #5 SMP Sun Jan 20 22:54:34 MET 2002 i686 unknown
19:46 < esden> apollo rulez!!!!
19:46 < n00kie_> o.O
19:46 < Mike1> shouldn't it be MPET and not MET ?
19:46 < Mike1> :P
19:46 < esden> rofl
19:51 -!- whence [~whence@p5086FFD2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
19:51 < whence> What is the best and cheapest method to install Rock Linux? Are there any netinstall floppy disks?
19:52 < esden> no there are none
19:52 < whence> So to say?
19:52 < whence> You liar.
19:52 * Mike1 laughts..
19:53 < Mike1> whence: you sure know who you are talking to right? ...
19:53 < esden> Mike1: leave him ...
19:53 < Mike1> esden: ok.
19:54 < whence> Uhm.
19:54 < whence> Kill me.
19:54 < whence> Please!
19:54 < esden> whence: what for? you will do it yourself ;-) 
19:57 < _NULL> re
19:58 < whence> Gah.
19:59 < esden> wb owl
19:59 < _NULL> thx
19:59 -!- whence [~whence@p5086FFD2.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting")
19:59 < Mike1> bye bye jackass :)
20:00 < _NULL> ???
20:00 < Mike1> _NULL: nevermind :)
20:00 < esden> lool ... you are a hard guy Mike1 ;-)
20:00 < Mike1> esden: am i ?\
20:00 < esden> yes ... ;-)
20:01 < esden> such people are mostly suicid ...
20:01 < esden> so that is not a long time that they will last on the earth
20:02 < esden> http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030413 <-- ROFL
20:09 * Mike1 is away: having lunch 
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20:16 * blindcoder getting more coffee
20:17 < _NULL> hi blindy
20:30 -!- jhidalgo [~jose@196.40.45.146] has left #rocklinux ()
20:32 < blindcoder> hu nully
20:44 * Mike1 is back (gone 00:34:55)
20:44 < Mike1> re
20:44 < blindcoder> re Mike1
20:45 < Mike1> blindy :)
20:45 < blindcoder> how was lunch?
20:45 < _NULL> wb Mike1
20:45 < n00kie_> Howdy _NULL :)
20:45 < Mike1> blindcoder: it was great thx
20:45 < Mike1> _NULL: thanks my love.
20:46 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@N297P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Damn, wrong button.")
20:57 < blindcoder> THGTTG is ... well... _really_ worth reading :D
20:58 < tfing> The Hackers Guide To Talking Girls ?
20:58 < Mike1> s/Talking/Taking
20:58 < blindcoder> almost :D
20:59 < blindcoder> nah, I mean The Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy
20:59 < tfing> oh
20:59 < blindcoder> bought the 5 books last Thursday
20:59 < tfing> i read the first one
20:59 < blindcoder> can't stop reading since then :)
20:59 < tfing> didn't find it very attractive
21:00 < blindcoder> I like the way it's written... particularly the humor :)
21:23 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@N297P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux
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21:27 < rxr> re
21:28 < _NULL> re n00kie, rxr
21:28 < Mike1> hi rxr
21:29 < rxr> hi Mike1
21:45 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-074-204.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux
21:45 < daja77> re
21:47 < Mike1> wb daja77
21:47 < daja77> thx
21:54 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@212.152.174.162] has joined #rocklinux
22:04 < ringo30> blindcoder: bought a book to "The hackers diaries: Confessions of teenage hackers." I like their attitude towards technology but not the defacement of websites etc.
22:06 < Mike1> yo ringo30
22:07 < ringo30> he Mike1 !
22:07 < daja77> hi ringo30
22:10 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@N297P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Client Exiting")
22:11 < ringo30> feeling a little headache fetching coffee
22:12 < daja77> bwahaha, coffee againt headache, this is logic in the netherlands I fear
22:12 < ringo30> nope addiction ;-)
22:13 * Mike1 has an adiction for the code..
22:13 * daja77 has during a two day visit in the netherlands drunk more coffee than in his whole lifetime
22:13 < _NULL> re
22:13 < daja77> hi _NULL
22:14 < _NULL> hi daja77
22:14 < ringo30> hi _nUlL
22:14 < _NULL> hi ringo30
22:15 < daja77> _NULL: ringo needs coffee :)
22:16 < _NULL> daja77: then make coffee for him *vbeg*
22:16 < ringo30> I have an addiction for code  also, but got also one of the virtues of a programmer laziness...
22:17 < daja77> _NULL: there is no coffee like yours (that with poison, you know)
22:18 < _NULL> daja77: then get poison first and after that make coffee
22:19 < daja77> don't have the recipe
22:19 < Mike1> daja77: only i get non-poisoned coffee from _NULL :)
22:19 < daja77> Mike1: I don't believe you
22:19 < _NULL> Mike1: nope, not really :p
22:19 < Mike1> daja77: sure she and i have an agreement :)
22:19 < _NULL> *complain*
22:20 < Mike1> _NULL: come on i need some support here!
22:20 < Mike1> _NULL: we can tell them the truth about this.. this time >_<
22:21 < _NULL> Mike1: :p
22:21 < daja77> do you have a shorter thongue?
22:21 -!- tibit [~tibit@p508AA979.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
22:22 < _NULL> daja77: nope
22:22 < Mike1> :|)
22:23 < _NULL> <-- half-away again, btw (reading)
22:23 < daja77> _NULL: interesting stuff?
22:23 < _NULL> daja77: yes.
22:23 < daja77> may I ask what?
22:23 < Mike1> daja77: she is reading about medieval tortures
22:24 < _NULL> david shobin - das klinikum
22:24 < daja77> *argh*
22:24 < _NULL> ???
22:24 < _NULL> why are you complaining, daja77 ?
22:25 * daja77 don't like stories about hospitals and doctors
22:25 < Mike1> _NULL: its a natural state on daja77.
22:25 < daja77> Mike1: :P
22:25 < _NULL> daja77: it's not one of the usual stories... it's a sci-fi, medical-thriller
22:26 < daja77> *sigh* that sounds much better
22:26 < _NULL> hehe ;)
22:26 < Mike1> _NULL: does the manson blood run inside you ?
22:27 < _NULL> Mike1: huh? why?
22:27 < Mike1> _NULL: just wondering..
22:27 < _NULL> Mike1: about what?
22:27 < Mike1> nothing nevermind.
22:27 < daja77> Mike1 sometimes needs to say strange things
22:27 < _NULL> tsssss... men...
22:28 < Mike1> daja77: sure, that helps me gain points on the stats
22:28 < Mike1> else you guys will take my place on it!
22:28 < daja77> mhmm, women never say strange this exept _NU*
22:28 < daja77> Mike1: hehe I know, that's why I have to scream *here*
22:29 < esden> wooho ... god bless you kids" ;-)
22:30 < daja77> kids, who?
22:30 < Mike1> daja77: woman are always strange we don't notice it because it never changes so we get use to it and think its the normal behavior on a femele
22:30 < Mike1> esden: why?
22:31 < daja77> Mike1: we are just not capable of understanding females
22:31 < esden> donno
22:31 < esden> daja77: you for example
22:31 < daja77> btw, hi esden
22:31 < esden> hi daja77 ;-)
22:31 < daja77> esden: tell me, you understand females?
22:31 < esden> 77 is your birthyear?
22:31 < Mike1> esden: yeah this chan is full of kids
22:31 < daja77> esden: yes
22:31 < esden> Mike1: correct
22:32 < Mike1> esden: nine is 81 :)
22:32 < Mike1> esden: btw you are part of kids group :)
22:32 < daja77> in 1977 I was booted the first time
22:32 < esden> hmm ... mine is 80 ... lool
22:32 < esden> over 23 years uptime ;-)
22:32 < daja77> nah I needed some reboots
22:33 < esden> aha ... "klinischer tod" ?
22:33 < ringo30> Its difficult to understand woman, they do much more with feelings.
22:33 -!- tibit_ [~tibit@p508AB139.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
22:33 * -> esden does not understand women
22:33 < esden> -> /me drinking beer ;-)
22:33 < Mike1> wow apache.org is down..
22:33 < daja77> esden: something like that
22:33 < rolla> esden: you never will
22:33 < daja77> esden: does it help
22:33 < esden> perhups when I kill some of mine braincells I will understand them ;-)
22:34 < Mike1> == 04:27:30 =[5]=> Building techworx/heimdal [20030331 1.7-snapshot].
22:34 < _NULL> esden: that was evil!!
22:34 < Mike1> oops wrong window
22:34 < rolla> hah ha
22:34 < esden> == 21:45:06 =[1]=> Building base/linux24 [2.4.20 1.7-snapshot]. <-- build on alpha
22:34 < rolla> esden: I cannot wait till you have working copy for me :)
22:34 < esden> owl: no ... it was only reality ;-)
22:34 < Mike1> esden: is it running on Natalie?
22:34 < _NULL> esden: nope!
22:35 < esden> rolla: not only you ... ripclaw is waiting for it too ;-)
22:35 < rolla> :)
22:35 < daja77> Natalie?
22:35 < ringo30> esden: you need to stimulate other parts of your brain. Not kill the frontal lobe.
22:35 < esden> daja77: correct ;-)
22:35 < rolla> esden: I am forced to load debian on my next box :(
22:35 < Mike1> daja77: she is esdens beauty
22:35 * -> esden running the build on natalie ;-)
22:36 * daja77 knows a french song about a natalie O_o
22:36 < Mike1> esden: guess not many people here know who is natalie :)
22:36 < esden> but /me would prefer "big mama" but I do not have her :-(
22:36 < esden> natalie -> "digital personal workstation 443"
22:36 < Mike1> :)
22:36 < esden> big mama -> "ds20 with both processors" ;-)
22:41 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux
22:42 < A-Tui> hi
22:42 < daja77> hey A-Tui
22:42 < daja77> anyway always be nice to women http://home.no.net/dogg/flash/fuckhergently.swf
22:43 < A-Tui> hi daja77!
22:43 < Mike1> hey Aitor
22:43 < A-Tui> hola Mike1
22:44 < esden> hi A-Tui 
22:44 < A-Tui> i fix problem with cmd_wrapper.c :)
22:44 < A-Tui> hi esden!
22:44 < A-Tui> i needed make a crossbuild
22:45 * -> esden sucking on his beer bottle
22:46 < Mike1> do you like to suck?
22:46 < A-Tui> XD
22:46 < daja77> esden: have look at the flash movie to get enlighted :)
22:46 < esden> hehe ;-)
22:47 < esden> I know that one ... is it with a devil ... and angles?
22:47 < Mike1> daja77: does it work on links?
22:47 < daja77> hehe yeah
22:47 < daja77> nope
22:47 < Mike1> daja77: lynx ?
22:47 < esden> w3m?
22:47 < A-Tui> there are a command to play swf on console
22:47 < Mike1> arrgg! :((
22:47 < Mike1> A-Tui: there is?????????
22:47 < daja77> Mike1: it is a flash movie, so you'll need a flash crap player,
22:48 < Mike1> where ?
22:48 < esden> aaswfplay ... that would be a nice thing ;-)
22:48 < A-Tui> Mike1: one minute
22:48 < daja77> poor Mike, no graphics browser
22:48 < Mike1> daja77: who needs grapics? just gimme the code.
22:48 < A-Tui> i had it anywhere
22:49 < daja77> well then read the binary
22:50 < esden> hexdump is your friend ;-)
22:51 < A-Tui> Mike1: i can't found it but look here -> http://www.openswf.org/
22:51 < esden> and a disassembler ;-)
22:51 < Mike1> :)
22:51 < capchaos> daja77, Mike1 is a human turing machine actually ;)
22:51 < esden> muahaha
22:51 < esden> so Mike1 is a long tape ... ROFL
22:52 < daja77> code monkey?
22:52 < Mike1> esden: capchaos what the matter with ya guys?
22:52 < capchaos> Had too much beer
22:53 < daja77> nothing, some people have just a thing called life
22:53 -!- Caspar [~steven261@M117P018.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux
22:54 < capchaos> daja77, where can you acquire that thing? ;)
22:54 < daja77> *argh* have a zombie flash player now
22:55 < daja77> capchaos: supermarket
22:56 < daja77> d'oh three guys here starting with ca not nice
22:56 < Mike1> daja77: but life = coding.
22:56 < daja77> gnaa, no
22:57 < Mike1> NO?!?! 0_o
22:57 < Mike1> daja77: what are you talking about?
22:57 < daja77> hehe, don't worry
22:57 * Mike1 breathing deep
22:57 < Mike1> daja77: no tell me please, what are you hiding?
22:58 * daja77 hides a dark soul
23:02 * capchaos can't wait starting 1.7 build
23:04 * daja77 likes to shoot up macromedia
23:04 < Mike1> capchaos: so start it over
23:05 < capchaos> Mike1, I'm waiting for the sources to arrive :))
23:06 < Mike1> :)
23:06 < Mike1> == 14:15:37 =[5]=> Building base/glibc23 [2.3.2 1.7-snapshot].
23:06 < Mike1> == 04:48:32 =[5]=> Building x11/xfree86 [4.3.0 1.7-snapshot].
23:06 < Mike1> :)
23:06 -!- daja77_ [~daja77@dialin-145-254-080-056.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux
23:07 < daja77_> mom, brb
23:07 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-074-204.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: daja77_!~daja77@dialin-145-254-080-056.arcor-ip.net)))
23:07 -!- daja77_ is now known as daja77
23:07 < daja77> *sigh* new life ahead :)
23:07 < capchaos> Pah, mikey, pah pah pah :P
23:08 < esden> stick is a nice thing ;-)
23:08 < Mike1> capchaos: :))
23:08 < esden> hmm ... that sounds strange ...
23:09 < esden> hmm ... I mean the feature that you can stick windows ... is cool
23:09 < capchaos> stick?
23:09 < esden> so that they are vsible on all desktops
23:09 < daja77> esden: that is not new
23:09 < esden> yes I know ...
23:10 < esden> but I remembered it now ... ;-)
23:10 < ringo30> icewm : <ALT> F2
23:10 < esden> only for note ... /me is drunk
23:10 < daja77> hehe, shit happens if you get older...
23:10 < esden> yes ... 
23:11 * -> esden got 23 the 5th Apr ...
23:11 < esden> *sigh*
23:11 < daja77> time to die for some...
23:11 < esden> daja77: how far are you with the rtlinux?
23:12 < esden> daja77: but sadly not for me ...
23:12 < daja77> started to read the vars I set in Config and generating .config for rtau package build
23:13 < daja77> just had some minutes today to work on it
23:13 < esden> that is not much ...
23:14 < daja77> indeed
23:14 < daja77> we'll maybe tomorrow it'll go better
23:14 < esden> I thought that you are doing it for work ... and having enough time for it ...
23:14 < daja77> esden: I have just an assistant job, some hours per week
23:15 < esden> what are you doing for living?
23:15 * daja77 is a student
23:16 -!- ringo30 [ringo78@xs2.xs4all.nl] has quit (K-lined)
23:17 * daja77 will have lectures about realtime OS this semester
23:17 < esden> ahh ... ok
23:19 < daja77> I think tomorrow I'll have time for that
23:20 < daja77> wow, I got disconnected from two irc nets at the same time :(
23:20 < esden> as it seems I will now make my thesis about selinux ... after I talked to the guys from the os proffessorship
23:20 < esden> so I will probably add selinux to rock
23:20 < daja77> ah the nsa thing
23:20 < esden> yes
23:21 < daja77> had a look at owl linux?
23:21 < esden> nope ...
23:22 < daja77> it aimes the same thing, but they are using 2.2 kernels and other old crap
23:22 < capchaos> Currently OWL was compiled and checked with MingW-2.95.2-1  *ggg*
23:22 < esden> ok ... no thanks ;-)
23:23 < daja77> capchaos: what is MingW
23:23 < capchaos> daja77, kind of gcc port for win32
23:23 < daja77> waaahaaa
23:28 < daja77> lol fefe is ranting about debian again
23:28 < esden> where?
23:28 < daja77> dasr
23:29 < capchaos> dasr?
23:30 < Mike1> daja77: ?
23:30 < daja77> capchaos: de.alt.sysadmin.recovery a newsgroup
23:31 < daja77> you can read it with google if you like
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23:32 < capchaos> re ringo78
23:32 < ringo78> re
23:32 < daja77> someone renamed the three debian tree into broken, rusting and stale
23:33 < capchaos> Hehehe
23:33 < ringo78> got another K-line with doing nothing wrong :-) First doing nothing on #freebsd and got a ban there, wonder what is going on..
23:33 < Mike1> who cares about debia anyways?
23:33 * daja77 cares about, cos debianist goin on my nerves for some weeks
23:34 < A-Tui> until now i was debian user :P
23:34 < Mike1> *g
23:34 < daja77> A-Tui: I know, sorry
23:34 < A-Tui> now i'm stoned
23:34 < daja77> hehe
23:34 < ringo78> I am coNfuSeD
23:35 < A-Tui> my next step it's change router debian based to ROCK
23:35 < esden> pizza ... nice ...
23:35 < esden> I think I make me a pizza
23:35 < Mike1> A-Tui: so what are you waiting for?
23:35 < A-Tui> Mike1: i'm learning about ROCK
23:35 < Mike1> A-Tui: learn faster :)
23:35 < A-Tui> now i'm building 1.7 to put on the router
23:35 < daja77> Mike1: why the haste every time
23:36 < esden> Mike1: ACK
23:36 < Mike1> daja77: ?
23:36 < Mike1> esden: :)
23:36 < A-Tui> american maniputalion? http://globalresearch.ca/articles/NYI304A.html
23:37 < esden> ok ... I finally killed the  2L beer bottle ...
23:37 < Mike1> hey nice i didn't know i had changed taken tsa's #3 on the stats
23:37 < Mike1> esden: also you will beat huebi soon, maybe in one more day
23:37 < esden> urgh
23:38 < A-Tui> esden: 2L???????!!!!!
23:38 < esden> we are chatting too much Mike1 
23:38 < esden> A-Tui: yes ... I got that for my birthday ;-)
23:38 < Mike1> esden: we? you are chatting to much :)
23:38 < A-Tui> ams nice, happy birthday then :)
23:38 < daja77> esden: me too, reached rank 13 in that short time
23:38 < esden> yes I know
23:38 < Mike1> ah maybe we, but no one here beats daja77
23:39 < esden> I should not chat ...
23:39 * -> esden going off ;-)
23:39 < Mike1> esden: you and i should be coding
23:39 < Mike1> don't go away !
23:39 < esden> ok ...
23:39 < daja77> Mike1: what do you wanna tell me?
23:39 < esden> I could not go ...
23:39 < Mike1> daja77: that you chat more than esden and i :)
23:39 < esden> chatting is importaint for me ... @-)
23:40 < Mike1> same here.
23:40 < daja77> .oO I should better leave...
23:40 < Mike1> daja77: no please :)
23:40 < esden> STAY
23:40 < Mike1> daja77: STAY please
23:40 < daja77> ok :)
23:40 * daja77 likes chatting since having joined here
23:40 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@N297P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux
23:41 < n00kie> Howdy guys :)
23:41 < ringo78> c u later reading && regenerating...
23:41 < esden> uhh ... daja77 you got infected ;-)
23:41 < esden> with the rock syndrom ;-)
23:41 < daja77> n8 ringo78
23:41 < capchaos> enjoy ringo78
23:41 < esden> n8 ringo78 
23:41 < daja77> esden: yes, I have to admit
23:41 < n00kie> Huhu daja77
23:42 < daja77> hey n00kie, still up?
23:42 < A-Tui> hi n00kie
23:42 < ringo78> nacht alle
23:43 < Mike1> ringo78: gutte nacht
23:43 < Mike1> wb n00kie
23:43 < Mike1> esden: what is the rock syndrom?
23:43 < Mike1> :)
23:43 < A-Tui> when you do a crossbuild scripts/Built-Target stops at the end of stage 1, true?
23:43 < esden> hmm ... 
23:44 < esden> that is the addiction to rocklinux and to #rocklinux 
23:45 < n00kie> re Mike1 :)
23:45 < n00kie> Hello A-Tui!
23:45 < Mike1> https://sourceforge.net/projects/elks/
23:46 < Mike1> Guess who has been added to the admins of the elks project?
23:46 < Mike1> :))
23:46 < daja77> ahem, no sorry have no browser at the moment
23:46 < Mike1> daja77: sorry for ya :)
23:47 < daja77> Mike1: tell me
23:47 < capchaos> mikey working side by side with alan cox?
23:48 < daja77> cool
23:48 < Mike1> capy hehe yeah :)
23:48 < capchaos> wow :)
23:48 * Mike1 feels honored.
23:50 < daja77> Mike1: congrats
23:50 * capchaos proud of mikey 
23:50 < daja77> .oO Mike1 should learn some welsh
23:50 < n00kie> blindcoder: Are you here?
23:51 < Mike1> capy daja77 thanks
23:52 < Mike1> daja77: i have no place to learn welsh, by it learning it has crossed my mind several times
23:52 < daja77> why?
23:53 < Mike1> some of my misc hobbies is learning languages
23:54 < daja77> mine too :)
23:54 < Mike1> :)
23:54 < Mike1> so are you into learning spanish?
23:55 < daja77> university cancelled all spanish courses
23:56 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@N297P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Damn, wrong button.")
23:56 < daja77> lol
23:57 < daja77> they cancelled arab too, but /me visited the course already :)
23:58 < daja77> courses even
23:58 < Mike1> i see
23:59 < Mike1> daja77: rxr and his gf will come by to visit on August, maybe you wanna come too?
23:59 < daja77> in August, dunno, depends on exams and stuff
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