--- Log opened Wed Apr 16 00:00:05 2003
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00:00 < Mike1> daja77: think about and let me know :)
00:00 < daja77> k
00:00 < daja77> when in august?
00:01 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@N297P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux
00:01 < Mike1> not sure yet, you should ask him
00:01 < daja77> :)
00:02 < Mike1> == 16:17:04 =[5]=> Building base/gcc3 [3.2.2 1.7-snapshot].
00:02 < Mike1> == 06:02:25 =[5]=> Building x11/libgd [2.0.12 1.7-snapshot].
00:03 * daja77 will redo checkout and build after easter
00:03 < n00kie> Ahh :)
00:03 < n00kie> Now i have my lovely icewm again :)
00:03 < daja77> I'd prefer icecream
00:04 < n00kie> ehehe ;)
00:05 < rxr> argh
00:05 < rxr> wated too much time:
00:05 < rxr> == 00:06:42 =[1]=> Building base/curl [7.10.4 1.7-snapshot].
00:05 < rxr> -> Reading package configuration from package directory.
00:05 < rxr> -> Preparing build in src.curl.1050444401.28544.529914676
00:05 < rxr> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/1-curl.out
00:05 < rxr> -> $root/var/adm/logs/1-curl.out -> 1-curl.log
00:05 < rxr> == 04/16/03 00:08:18 =[1]=> Finished building package curl.
00:05 < rxr> but finally ...
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00:05 < tsa> hi
00:05 < daja77> hi tsa
00:05 < Mike1> rxr: ?
00:05 < Mike1> hi tsa
00:06 < rxr> fixed curl after your update ...
00:06 < rxr> ;-)
00:06 < tsa> can anyone give estimate build times for this one:
00:06 < tsa> model name      : AMD Duron(tm) processor
00:07 < tsa> cpu MHz         : 1202.710
00:07 < tsa> bogomips        : 2392.13
00:07 < daja77> tsa: what is it's label?
00:07 < tsa> label?
00:07 < daja77> 1800XP, 1500blah
00:07 < rxr> tsa: build time of what?
00:07 < rxr> full build?
00:07 < tsa> rxr: yes.
00:08 < rxr> how much ram? which disk interface ;-) ?
00:08 < rxr> rebuild stage?
00:08 < rxr> root:/home/rene/develop/rock/rock-src-1.7-rxr# patch -p1 < /hack
00:08 < rxr> patching file package/base/curl/configure-mess.patch
00:08 < rxr> patching file package/base/curl/curl.conf
00:08 < rxr> patching file package/base/sed/no-cross-check.patch
00:08 < rxr> patching file package/base/sed/sed.conf
00:08 < tsa> daja77: uh...no idea...this is a machine at work i'm currently using  to test some stuff..and because mainly it does just sit there, i've decided to try a new cvs build.
00:08 < rxr> so finary the cross stage is functional ;-)
00:09 < tsa> 256mb.
00:09 < tsa> with stage 9.
00:09 < daja77> more than 2 days
00:09 < rxr> hm 3-4 days (pi*thumb estimation ...)
00:09 < tsa> local disk is ide, but i'm building on an nfs volume, so i'll probably have to add some more hours..
00:10 < rxr> ach for NFS ...
00:10 < tsa> ;)
00:10 < daja77> rxr: btw, I now got an new board, via kt400 but it works now :)
00:10 * tsa considers doing a cluster build when we get some new machines..
00:10 < rxr> hehe
00:11 < Mike1> rxr: btw no more furter update patches will be received from me again
00:11 < esden> ahh ... pizza yum yum
00:11 < esden> hi rxr 
00:11 < Mike1> esden: enjoy my friend :)
00:11 < tsa> rxr: already sent a mail to cliff, but you might want to think about this, too: we have a small problem with the current version of mktemp ..
00:12 < tsa> build scripts need "mktemp -p", which exists in 1.4, but not in 1.5
00:12 < tsa> current version in cvs is 1.5, thus making rock builds on rock-1.7-cvs impossible.
00:12 < tsa> perhaps we should use 1.4 again.
00:13 < daja77> -p was a temporary feature I guess
00:13 < tsa> i'm not sure about this - but at least the paranoia checks are complaining..
00:14 < tsa> (build system is RH8.0, so i would expect this problem with many people that are new to ROCk.
00:14 < tsa> )
00:15 < daja77> tsa: rh8 has an old mktemp
00:15 * daja77 knows that problem ;)
00:15 < daja77> read: mktemp < 1.4
00:15 < tsa> # rpm -q mktemp
00:15 < tsa> mktemp-1.5-16
00:15 < tsa> # cat /etc/redhat-release
00:15 < tsa> Red Hat Linux release 8.0 (Psyche)
00:16 < daja77> tsa: huh, rh8 was before mktemp 1.5
00:16 < tsa> (updated in regard to all currently available Rh patches)
00:16 < daja77> anyway installing 1.4 from sources should do the trick
00:17 < tsa> hehe...i already did that...but since the "-p" option seems to be EOL'd, we should try to get rid of it..
00:17 < rxr> hm
00:18 < rxr> I just rebuild mktmep locally
00:18 < rxr> it still works ...
00:18 < rxr> maybe you still call the old mktemp since one is in /bin and the other in /usr/bin ?
00:19 < daja77> mktemp should be in /bin
00:19 < tsa> only /bin/mktemp available..
00:19 < Mike1> n8 all
00:19 < rxr> oot:/home/rock-linux/rock-1.7# which mktemp
00:19 < rxr> /usr/bin/mktemp
00:20 < rxr> tsa have you already build ROCK mktemp into your host system=
00:20 < rxr> seems like redhad is removing the feature in the rpm ...
00:20 < tsa> rxr: no - i took the 1.4 source and compiled it by hand..
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00:20 < daja77> redhat is doin weird things to packages sometimes
00:21 < rxr> the options seems to be still available in the 1.5 version
00:21 < tsa> indeed ;-))
00:21 < tsa> hm...
00:21 < daja77> rule number three never look at the rh dependencies *urgs*
00:21 < tsa>  /bin/mktemp on RH vs. /usr/bin/mktemp on Rock..i wonder which one is correct.
00:22 < tsa> rule number one: "avoid RH"? ;)
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00:22 < daja77> no rule number one was different as I told blindcoder already ;)
00:23 < tsa> hm..
00:23 < tsa> *yawn*
00:23 * tsa needs holiday.
00:23 < daja77> look it up in yesterday's log if you like
00:23 * daja77 needs sleep
00:24 * daja77 runs into bed, n8
00:24 < tsa> cu daja77
00:25 < daja77> cu tsa :)
00:26 < n00kie> bye daja77 :)
00:26 < n00kie> Sleep well
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00:30 < n00kie> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 2.2.2) (headers and libraries) not found.
00:30 < n00kie> Hmm
00:30 < n00kie> But I have QT 3.1 installed
00:32 < rxr> where do you get this ?
00:32 < n00kie> When I wanna configure icecc
00:33 < rxr> the qt checks are often quite uninteligent
00:33 < n00kie> Hmm
00:33 < rxr> try --with-qt=$path-to-qt
00:34 < rxr> ot --qith-qt-headers= ...
00:34 < rxr> or how it is named there ...
00:34 < n00kie> QT is on /opt/qt ?
00:34 < rxr> in ROCK it is in /opt/qt31 ...
00:34 < n00kie> ok
00:34 < rxr> when the app is not written for qt-3.x (only for qt-2.x) it is likely that it will not compile ...
00:35 < n00kie> But there is >QT 2.2.2
00:36 < n00kie> hmm
00:36 < n00kie> Is there anyway to show all apps, that qt is on /opt/qt31 ?
00:51 < rxr> no - each app has an other flanky configure script  ...
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01:03 < Caspar> hi - whats the problem with sed ?
01:05 < Caspar> ah - i see - rxr you did a patch already .. is this already in CVS ?
01:14 < tsa> n8
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01:48 < esden> n8
02:05 < n00kie> sleep well esden
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02:35 < rxr> n8
02:35 < fake> grrr...
02:36 < n00kie> sleep well rxr
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05:19 < demian> hi
06:04 < fake> hi
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07:21 < demian> haha, quake is wonderful.. none has reach me neither at the middle of my fraks
07:21 < demian> cya
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08:26 < blindcoder> fain brart=
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09:34 < ringo78> moin all(e).
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09:49 < _NULL> morning
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10:03 < _NULL> hi n00kie
10:42 < blindcoder> hi _NULL
10:42 < _NULL> hi blindcoder
10:43 < blindcoder> _NULL: do you know if caffeeine in high concontration in human bodies is poisonous?
10:45 < _NULL> blindcoder: it is... but you need at least 20 gramms of caffeine
10:45 < blindcoder> I have 250 rams of Espresso Beans here...
10:45 < blindcoder> s/rams/grams/
10:45 < blindcoder> should be sufficient
10:45 < blindcoder> you'll find me next to my new coffee machine
10:45 < _NULL> blindcoder: don't do shit!!!
10:46 < blindcoder> I don't do shit, I just drink espresso
10:48 < capchaos> <URL:http://www.1uphealth.com/health/caffeine_overdose_info.html>>
10:48 < capchaos> Nice symptoms
10:48 < blindcoder> *click*
10:50 < blindcoder> sweet.. I already have 4 of the symptoms after 2 cups of coffeee
10:52 < blindcoder> hmm...
10:52 < blindcoder> infants don't seem to die from caffeeine...
10:52 < _NULL> blindcoder: that's not funny !
10:53 < _NULL> and - i guess you will get "bauchschmerzen and uebelkeit" - and won't die
10:53 < blindcoder> according to that page it is so!
10:53 < _NULL> blindcoder: according to my experiences with much caffeine, it's also so.
10:54 < capchaos> caffeine is addictive
10:54 < blindcoder> hmm... I usually don't have any coffee monday through friday due to lack of cofee machine @work
10:55 < blindcoder> and the last 3 weeks I had no coffee at all due to sleeping-to-long-to-have-breakfast-and-would-have-to-make-coffe-myself
10:55 < blindcoder> but with that new coffeee machine all that will change!
10:56 < capchaos> yea, you'll get addictive and die of coffeine consumption?
10:56 * blindcoder pumping espresso up to to 8 fine-grained espresso-beans
10:57 < blindcoder> unfortunately the machine can't do more
10:57 * capchaos going to have some tea
10:58 < _NULL> capchaos: you're addicted to tea ;p
10:58 < capchaos> coffein has a better affect in the evening ;)
10:58 < capchaos> _NULL, fruit tea can't really make you addictive
10:58 < _NULL> capchaos: hmmm...
11:03 < blindcoder> capchaos: that site is interesting
11:03 < blindcoder> finally I know what the twitching of my eelid is
11:03 < blindcoder> http://www.1uphealth.com/health/fasciculations_of_muscle_info.html
11:05 < _NULL> blindcoder: if you really want to die, then there are simpler methods and not as painful as caffeine must be
11:05 < blindcoder> death by caffeeine is a worthy death of a "Computer Freak" like me
11:06 < _NULL> blindcoder: gnaaa! nope!!!
11:06 < blindcoder> but if you insist, there's a "Autobahn-Bruecke" nearby
11:06 < _NULL> not sure that you will die.
11:06 < blindcoder> oh, you don't know the traffic on the A9
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11:07 < _NULL> a skyscraper or train would be better... or take a bath with ice-cold water (and crushed ice inside) and take your arms inside it. after that take a razor blade /knife which is _really_ sharp - and then cut your venes. and cut _correct_
11:08 < _NULL> nobody can help you, if you 're "ausbluten" to death - if you cut your venes up correct.
11:09 < kasc> its still possible, but should be done during the first few seconds...
11:09 < blindcoder> sounds messy
11:10 < kasc> as a rule of thumb you have about 10-20 secs to decide ;)
11:10 < kasc> btw: moin :)
11:10 < _NULL> hi kasc
11:10 < blindcoder> moin kasc
11:11 < kasc> hope rock will make it soon to 2.0
11:11 < _NULL> 10 - 20 secs to decide what?
11:11 < kasc> _NULL: to decide if you really want to die
11:12 < kasc> or my postponed_games folder will burst...
11:12 < _NULL> hmmm... cutting the venes only takes 10 - 20 seconds? of did i get you wrong?
11:12 < blindcoder> _NULL: no, you have 10-20 secs to decide whether ot stop the bleeding or not
11:12 < blindcoder> after that time it's too late to stop it
11:13 < _NULL> aha. and how long does it take, to die finally?
11:13 < kasc> several minutes
11:13 < _NULL> hrm... are they painful or don't you "mitbekommen" pain?
11:14 * blindcoder getting his 3rd and 4th coffee. brb
11:15 < kasc> not sure... if it is like "erfrieren" you will feel comfy and warm. You should not look at your bleeding arms, tho
11:15 < _NULL> hrm.
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11:15 < kasc> if you are lucky you might loose consciousness soon
11:16 < _NULL> hmmm... doesn't sound bad to me
11:17 < _NULL> nobody would cry "um mich"...
11:18 < kasc> its a terrible mess to clean up afterwards
11:18 < _NULL> my job will - as i guess - be my "ex-job"... company seems to be bancrupt maybe soon...
11:18 < _NULL> why not doing? nothing against it
11:18 < _NULL> kasc: then it's not my problem anymore
11:19 < kasc> you should at least do it in a easy cleaneable place like under the shower.
11:20 < _NULL> kasc: a knife/razor blade which is wet, isn't easy to hold
11:21 < kasc> but it will feel better when you are wet when the blood starts dripping down on you
11:21 < kasc> IMO committing suicide is the most cowardly way to end a life...
11:21 < _NULL> why should it feel better?
11:22 < _NULL> why?
11:24 * blindcoder back
11:24 < kasc> committing suicide is a simple option. You dont have to face any problems afterwards
11:24 < capchaos> kasc, what about running amok?
11:24 < _NULL> kasc: i don't care after it.
11:24 < blindcoder> yeah, that's why it's so fascinating
11:24 < _NULL> s/it/death
11:24 < blindcoder> capchaos: you need a weapon for that
11:24 < blindcoder> and weapons tend to run out of ammo
11:24 < kasc> capchaos: that has at least an excitement factor in it ;)
11:25 < blindcoder> it's not like you find ammo in the toilet of a cinema or something
11:25 * _NULL np: blutengel - i'm dying alone (and: "von einem schaeferhund angefressen bevor die leiche gefunden wird)
11:25 < kasc> _NULL: and exactly that is the point ;)
11:26 < kasc> running and hiding from problems is a cowardly way of not having to face them
11:26 < _NULL> kasc: i don't care anymore!
11:27 < blindcoder> kasc: what about having faced them a dozen times and lost to a dozen times?
11:27 < esden> hi ho
11:27 < blindcoder> moin again, esden :)
11:27 < _NULL> hi esden
11:27 < _NULL> blindcoder: full ack.
11:27 < kasc> blindcoder: life tends to face you with similar problems until you have learned the lesson
11:27 < esden> hmm ... strange I have no headake ... 
11:27 < _NULL> blindcoder: it's non-sense, is it?
11:27 < kasc> moin esden
11:28 * blindcoder smacks esden over the head... still no headache?
11:28 < esden> autsch
11:28 < blindcoder> _NULL: Zero said it once very precise: "Life sucks, and hten you die."
11:29 < _NULL> blindcoder: he is right.
11:29 < esden> *sigh*
11:29 < blindcoder> _NULL: although I hate admitting _him_ to be right ;)
11:29 < _NULL> dead. after that theire are worms you're eaten by
11:30 < blindcoder> Q: how long does it take UPS to taek a package halfway through Germany?
11:30 < esden> life is cool ... /me reading IT-Security book ... gathering knowledge is cool ... and worth living 
11:30 < kasc> esden: full ack
11:31 < _NULL> esden: IT != life
11:31 < _NULL> knowledge is nothing. and look at the fscking "wirtschaftliche lage" - then you can begin to cry without ending
11:31 < blindcoder> esden: I know enough about computers to be called a "Computer Freak" by people who don't know me after I spoke 2 sentences with them that had absolutely _nothing_ to do with electronical devices of any kind
11:32 < _NULL> blindcoder: it's better than visiting a cinema and being called "computer asshole" - by people you never had spoken with!
11:32 < blindcoder> and it's not really something I'm proud of
11:33 < blindcoder> _NULL: it sums up to the same
11:33 < _NULL> yes, it does.
11:33 * blindcoder hands _NULL a good espresso
11:33 < _NULL> blindcoder: nope. thx.
11:34 * _NULL prefers endorphine
11:34 < kasc> _NULL: chocolate?
11:34 < _NULL> kasc: nope.
11:35 < ringo78> blindcoder: here here !!!
11:36 * blindcoder hands the espresso over to ringo78 and tells his machine to make another one :)
11:36 < _NULL> blindcoder: the 6th?
11:37 < blindcoder> _NULL: no, still busy with 3 and 4
11:37 < _NULL> blindcoder: k.
11:38 < ringo78> blindcoder: thanks ! Beter then that dissolve-coffee over here ;-)
11:39 < blindcoder> hehe
11:39 * capchaos wants Anarchy
11:39 * blindcoder has a feeling that the 250 gramms of Espresso Beans won't last long
11:39 * _NULL wants death
11:40 < ringo78> chocolate is a bad substitute to create endorphines :-)
11:40 < blindcoder> yeah, but for some people there's nothing else to create some
11:40 < capchaos> _NULL, death is boring, nothing comes after it
11:40 < _NULL> capchaos: and that is, what is cool
11:41 < _NULL> blindcoder: creating what?
11:41 < capchaos> _NULL, endorphines
11:41 < blindcoder> _NULL: "Gluecks-Hormone"
11:42 < _NULL> how to create them? (except the one method i know)
11:42 * capchaos wants to create endorphines.. any woman willing to share?
11:42 < blindcoder> 11:40 < ringo78> chocolate is a bad substitute to create endorphines :-)
11:42 < blindcoder> _NULL: chocolate!
11:42 < _NULL> blindcoder: doesn't really work (at least for me)
11:43 < kasc> _NULL: perhaps eating noodles might help
11:43 < kasc> you wont get endorphines that way but serotronine which does about the same
11:44 < _NULL> kasc: hmmmm
11:44 < ringo78> 0to9 hmmm trye bungeeing
11:44 < _NULL> guess i get enough serotonine per day...
11:51 < blindcoder> kasc: what's the matter vith clanlib?
11:54 < blindcoder> == 11:50:24 =[9]=> Building kasc/clanlib [0.6.5-1 1.7-snapshot].
11:55 < kasc> blindcoder: the sources from the tarball need some fixing and the cvs server is most unstable
11:56 < blindcoder> kasc: why not do it like I did with koules? I couldn't get the [D] right, so I just did a manual cvs co, made a tarball from it, put it on my webserver, and be done with it?
11:56 < blindcoder> as soon as it's on hte ROCK mirrors, delete the file again
11:57 < kasc> i have no webserver
11:57 < blindcoder> okay, that's a problem
11:58 < kasc> but i will resubmit it soon. pingus has been released today and i simply love it :)
11:58 < blindcoder> hehe
11:58 < blindcoder> I want to try out Fall, so I need ClanLib, too
11:59 < blindcoder> == 04/16/03 11:59:50 =[9]=> Finished building package clanlib.
11:59 < kasc> anyway i think we should now concentrate on making rock stable now before adding new packages...
12:00 < blindcoder> by just updating to 0.6.5-1
12:00 < blindcoder> there's a tar.gz for that...
12:01 < kasc> from what i heard on the mailinglist clanlib is currently under heavy development. both, 0.6 and 0.7
12:02 < blindcoder> hmm
12:02 < blindcoder> well, it compiles fine here, at least...
12:03 < kasc> the question is: do the progs you want to link against it compile, too? ;)
12:04 < blindcoder> haven't tried yet.\
12:05 < blindcoder> no, because the game needs 0.7.2 *argh*
12:05 < blindcoder> blindy... read, before you do anything...
12:06 < kasc> hehe
12:07 < blindcoder> dammit... somethign is wrong with this cup
12:07 < blindcoder> the coffee in it has dissolved again...
12:07 < kasc> thats just another thing i dislike with clanlib: from 0.6 to 0.7 it has got totally rewritten but 0.7 has by far not the capabilities of 0.6, yet
12:08 < blindcoder> erm... what justifies the new version number then?
12:09 < blindcoder> If there's a higher version number, I expect the capabilities to have a) become more reliable b) more or c) both
12:11 < kasc> from what i read on the ml it is as with the kernel: even version numbers are supposed to be stable, odd version numbers are development versions
12:11 < blindcoder> hmm... I see...
12:11 < blindcoder> so it's Fall's fault to have used 0.7.2 :)
12:12 < kasc> yep ;)
12:23 < blindcoder> GAH
12:23 < blindcoder> CL wants to set up GLX even if there is no GLX extension on selected DISPLAY
12:28 < esden> urgh ... I do not want to drive to IN ... *sigh*
12:28 < blindcoder> esden: why?
12:29 < esden> because that means that I have to shower ... to go to my car and drive ... and then in the evening back ... that is _work_
12:30 < kasc> LOL!! from a configure --help:
12:30 * -> esden is too lazy for that
12:30 < kasc>   --disable-target-opt    Enable target specific optimizations
12:30 * -> esden getting a shower
12:54 * -> esden -> off to IN
12:54 < esden> cu guys
12:54 < _NULL>  bye esden
12:55 < blindcoder> hehe
12:55 < blindcoder> who said, free ringtones are dead?
12:55 < blindcoder> only drawback: the site is .cz
13:02 < _NULL> blindcoder: it depends on the phone imho
13:03 < blindcoder> Nokia, Siemens, anything that can understand .mid
13:03 < _NULL> hmmm....
13:04 < blindcoder> http://www.redboss.cz/cz/tones/
13:04 < _NULL> thx
13:06 < n00kie> hey blindcoder
13:06 < n00kie> Heyja _NULL :)
13:07 < blindcoder> hi n00kie
13:07 < _NULL> hi n00kie - finally you're awake...
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13:27 < daja77> moin
13:27 < _NULL> hi daja77
13:27 < daja77> hi _NULL
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13:40 < capchaos> hi daja77, hi A-Tui
13:41 < A-Tui> hola capchaos!
13:43 < capchaos> Hole mi amigo
13:43 < _NULL> hi A-Tui
13:44 < _NULL> hole? hola you mean, i guess... (?)
13:44 < A-Tui> hi _NULL
13:44 < A-Tui> capchaos: hi my friend!
13:45 < capchaos> Si, grande buho ;)
13:45 < capchaos> @_NULL
13:46 < _NULL> capchaos: buho?
13:46 < A-Tui> XDD
13:46 < capchaos> :)
13:46 < A-Tui> buho it's a nigth bird :)
13:46 < _NULL> *ggg*
13:46 < capchaos> *g*
13:46 < daja77> hey all
13:46 < A-Tui> hi daja77
13:47 * daja77 is bughunting :(
13:47 < _NULL> <-- too... in c# *cries*
13:47 < daja77> in daemons, *puke*
13:48 < _NULL> daja77: have fun
13:49 < daja77> *har har har*
13:49 < _NULL> :p
13:53 < A-Tui> any tools to convert a pdf document to Tex file?
13:53 < daja77> very unlikely
13:54 < daja77> I hate it, statements like this: At the moment, it's only available as a Debian package
13:54 * A-Tui thinks daja77 hates debian :)
13:54 < daja77> A-Tui: yes I do
13:54 < capchaos> daja77, they probably want to say "we need to hide some bad workarounds and make a debian package so noone sees it"
13:55 < A-Tui> daja77: debian people are generally intolerant!
13:55 < daja77> anyway as source is there, I don't care much
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14:10 < daja77> A-Tui: I know, that's why I try to avoid them
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14:11 < [anders]> lo folks
14:11 < daja77> hi [anders]
14:11 < [anders]> hullo daja77
14:11 < A-Tui> daja77: yes, it should be a good reason ;)
14:12 < _NULL> hi [anders]
14:12 < daja77> [anders]: hope ibm can hold up your connection *vbeg*
14:12 < [anders]> lo _NULL
14:12 < [anders]> daja77: I am sure it can.. xchat seems a bit unstable when pasting things into it..
14:13 < [anders]> _NULL: how are things then?
14:13 < _NULL> [anders]: hm. horrible. even more horrible then before... and at you?
14:14 < [anders]> _NULL: not too bad.. been learning lots about kdb yesterday and today..
14:14 < [anders]> trying to chase down a kernel bug.. :-(
14:14 < _NULL> [anders]: have fun then
14:14 < [anders]> well, yes.. I am trying. :)
14:14 < _NULL> :p
14:15 < daja77> [anders]: welcome to bughunter's guild ;)
14:15 < [anders]> this bug is intriguing.. when a particular process exits, there is a chance of a race condition. If triggered, it will literally halt the machine it runs on.
14:16 < daja77> d'oh, what machine you are working on?
14:16 < [anders]> and writing down the oops messages by hand to transfer to other machines takes long time.
14:16 < [anders]> daja77: is is a X342 IBM server with 4GB RAM..
14:17 < daja77> ooops trace by hand btdt for freebsd *g*
14:18 < blindcoder> [anders]: serial console?
14:18 < blindcoder> [anders]: console on line printer?
14:18 < blindcoder> *bad joke, I know*
14:18 < [anders]> blindcoder: we have the four boxes hooked up via serial consoles now..
14:18 < [anders]> more or less a pre-req for kdb
14:19 < blindcoder> [anders]: can't you catch the oops there?
14:19 < blindcoder> [anders]: that's what I did when my machine started oopsing regularly.
14:19 < [anders]> problem we are facing is that we don't know if the bug can be triggered when we are running a kernel with kdb enabled. timings can be diffrent and make the bug impossible to trigger.. :-?
14:19 < [anders]> blindcoder: yeh.. serial consoles make life a lot easier..
14:21 < [anders]> another problem we are facing is that although our first re-create took only about three hours, that is no guarantee that the next one will take that little time..
14:22 < blindcoder> hmm
14:23 * [anders] grumbles about how long it takes to set the damned test-stand up for this recreate..
14:23 < daja77> hi blindcoder :)
14:24 < [anders]> I wasted more or less the whole of yesterday to build a kernel and the product itself just to find out that the kernel I had built would oops when bringing up the lo interface. (Which is a difffrent opps altogether..)
14:24 < [anders]> The preparations this morning only took four hours though.. Which was better, but still not altogether good.
14:26 < rolla> re
14:27 < [anders]> lo rolla
14:27 < daja77> hi rolla
14:27 < [anders]> rolla: long time no type.. /me been so busy at work I had to leave off IRC completely..
14:30 < blindcoder> kasc: I'm not entirely sure if pingus would go into ROCK...
14:30 < rolla> true [anders]
14:31 < daja77> license issue?
14:32 < blindcoder> daja77: no, GPL. But it needs its own version of ClanLib with its own patchset and this one is not distributed with pingus' source
14:32 * _NULL jumping around: project finished! :)))
14:33 < blindcoder> I currently have /opt/clanlib-0.7.2 /opt/clanlib-0.6.5 and /opt/clanlib-0.6.5-pingus
14:33 < blindcoder> or we could use the binary distribution of pingus which only is there for x86
14:33 < daja77> blindcoder: but we could package that clanlib version seperately
14:33 < blindcoder> yeah, that's what I did
14:33 < blindcoder> but then we're back where we started with bdb
14:34 < blindcoder> 3 version of the same lib
14:34 < daja77> _NULL: btw, what is that for a project
14:34 < blindcoder> some of them only used in a single package
14:34 < _NULL> daja77: sorry. not allowed to tell you
14:35 < daja77> _NULL: no details just the big goal
14:35 < blindcoder> daja77: the german pendant to Carnivore :D
14:35 < capchaos> (top secret)
14:35 < daja77> blindcoder: bad, dunno what to do against it
14:35 < daja77> hehe
14:35 < _NULL> daja77: nope
14:35 < blindcoder> daja77: well, I personally don't care, but I think Clifford will reject it and rxr will start a huge discussion about different versions of the same package :)
14:36 < daja77> well there is nothing to discuss execpt if we want the games or not
14:36 < daja77> _NULL: shy?
14:36 < _NULL> daja77: who?
14:36 < blindcoder> daja77: IIRC we hat that exact situation with bdb
14:36 < _NULL> :p
14:36 < daja77> _NULL: you
14:37 < _NULL> daja77: why?
14:37 < daja77> _NULL: ashamed of telling me
14:37 < _NULL> daja77: nope. has nothing to do with being shy or not.
14:38 < _NULL> wtf is there no "bonus" for finished projects for azubis *grrrr*
14:38 < blindcoder> daja77: I can't do `cvs up` in my ROCK tree anymore since it would completely destroy it :/
14:38 < daja77> _NULL: because it is top secret, a bonus raises questions *vbeg*
14:38 < blindcoder> tons of changes that either noone else needs or that aren't "clean"
14:39 < _NULL> daja77: :ppp
14:39 < daja77> blindcoder: .oO
14:39 < tfing> blindcoder: cvs up does not change the files you have modified eh
14:40 < blindcoder> tfing: yes it does. it tries to, at least
14:40 < tfing> it keeps the part you have modified
14:40 < daja77> *argh* why I am on an idiot's mailinglist
14:40 < blindcoder> tfing: it tries to merge the changes between local and remote version
14:40 < blindcoder> daja77: do I have to comment on this :D
14:40 < tfing> yes but i won't overwrite the parts you have modified
14:41 < daja77> blindcoder: nope, and I was put on it, not vice versa
14:41 < blindcoder> tfing: hmm... well, my experience is different... but okay, maybe I've configured cvs wrong
14:41 < tfing> strange
14:41 < tfing> just as long as you don't do a cvs up -C it should be ok
14:42 < blindcoder> usually I do -Pd
14:44 < tfing> i'll stop arguing cause i might be completely wrong :)
14:44 < daja77> *rof* http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/hob-16.04.03-000/
14:44 < daja77> l
14:44 < tfing> but i can't remember having had problems with overwritten changes
14:45 < tfing> daja77: they have "lost" a sql db ?
14:46 < daja77> a, thousands, muhahahaha
14:46 < tfing> :)
14:48 < daja77> thousands of annoyed customers, but hey only the stupid stayed with strato anyway
14:54 < blindcoder> oh... "Implicit declaration of getpaylistpos()"... hmm... does anyone else think that this doesn't really matter? :)
14:54 < blindcoder> getplaylistpos() even
14:54 < daja77> blindcoder: this indicates a missing header include
14:55 < blindcoder> daja77: yes. It's caused by my XMMS-Patch...
14:55 < blindcoder> but it works, so I'm fine with it :)
14:56 < daja77> blindcoder: this is bad, someone could have problems with that bug, it will be hard to trace then
14:57 < blindcoder> :( bah.. /me grep'ing through XMMS' *.h files
14:58 < daja77> :)
15:09 < A-Tui> bye bye, food :) cu all
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15:14 < daja77> hey Caspar
15:14 < _NULL> hi Caspar
15:15 < Caspar> hi
15:16 < Caspar> i've just tried to compile a bootdisk target ...
15:16 < Caspar> but it fails at stage 5
15:17 < _NULL> at stage 5??? for me it fails with coreutils, sed... and after that with almost ever other package... at least it was so, in a CVS from some days ago...
15:17 < _NULL> which system are you building at?
15:18 < Caspar> mv: error while loading shared libraries: /lib/libattr.so.1: file too short
15:18 < Caspar> i've applied rene's patch already
15:18 < Caspar> this fixes sed and curl
15:18 < _NULL> Caspar: ah. k. thx.
15:19 < blindcoder> file too short? looks like it isn't a symlink or the symlink'ed file is corrupt
15:19 < Caspar> my problem with coreutils has been fixed with an recent cvs checkout - i dontknow why
15:21 * blindcoder hasn't updated to coreutils yet, since it would mean adopting two of his own patching he's quite fond of
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15:26 < daja77> *shake head* about ibm :)
15:27 < Caspar> package attr builds fine ...
15:27 < _NULL> daja77: ???
15:28 < daja77> _NULL: anders connection has been killed again
15:29 < _NULL> daja77: ah so
15:31 * capchaos gets _NULL a strong coffee :P
15:32 < _NULL> capchaos: nope. thx. i prefer tea :p
15:32 < daja77> capchaos: *shake head*, still don't know that she don't like coffee
15:32 < daja77> _NULL: which tea you like
15:32 < _NULL> daja77: with fruits. or better: apple-tea :)
15:33 < daja77> _NULL: so you don't go for the real stuff
15:33 < _NULL> daja77: like what?
15:33 < capchaos> daja77, who cares whether she likes coffee or not :P
15:34 < daja77> capchaos: don't ask me...
15:34 < _NULL> capchaos: eh!!!
15:34 < capchaos> _NULL has to stay awake at work, so.. ;)
15:34 < _NULL> capchaos: *kick*
15:34 < capchaos> *aua*
15:34 < daja77> _NULL: imported english tea :)
15:34 < _NULL> i'm awake. (or something similar)
15:35 < _NULL> english tea... no, thx
15:35 < daja77> don't like it, then don't worry
15:37 < Caspar> oh - i've found an error - does anybody know what's this means: ../../install-sh: line 377: 17479 Bus error               (core dumped) $CP $sol
15:37 < Caspar> ib $install_name
15:38 < Caspar> in package attr
15:47 < Caspar> :(
15:47 < daja77> Caspar: can you reproduce that error on a different machine?
15:50 < Caspar> i'll try
16:04 * daja77 is desparated by rtai's black magic
16:05 * blindcoder is desperated by some peoples' narrow-minded point of view
16:05 < daja77> blindcoder: ??
16:05 < blindcoder> or, to be more exacty, the developers of pingus narrow-minded PoV
16:05 < daja77> what did they tell you
16:06 < blindcoder> "Changing ClanLib to make it compatible with pingus is okay, since nobody uses the things our patches change."
16:06 < daja77> huh?
16:07 < blindcoder> After one hour of fscking around I finally managed to install clanlib-0.6.5-pingus in its own directory and make pingus use that specific version
16:07 < blindcoder> yes, they disable a "close"-button on windows in ClanLib
16:07 < daja77> *argh*
16:07 < blindcoder> exactly my thoughts
16:08 < daja77> tell them that they should put more efforts in being included in distributions, otherwise they'll not distributed at all
16:09 < blindcoder> well, I don't care. I created a ROCK package clanlib-0.6.5-pingus and a ROCK package pingus now
16:09 < blindcoder> it works
16:09 < daja77> they don't deserve distribution...
16:09 < blindcoder> point is: they don't want pingus to be distributed. At least they don't want distros to use their source but their binary which is statically linked
16:09 < daja77> why that
16:10 < blindcoder> no idea. It's what I've been told.
16:10 < blindcoder> After half an hour of discussion I didn't really have energy left to ask.
16:10 < daja77> hmm, welcome to binary only world *puke*
16:10 < daja77> blindcoder: on irc?
16:11 < blindcoder> yes
16:11 < daja77> here on freenode
16:11 < blindcoder> #gametome
16:11 < blindcoder> but nevermind
16:11 < daja77> don't have time for that, anyway
16:12 < blindcoder> well, I have a new problem to fight now
16:13 < daja77> which?
16:13 < blindcoder> Poop'm'up has no make install
16:13 < blindcoder> and no support for being 'installed' at all
16:13 < daja77> I shouldn't have asked...
16:14 < blindcoder> indeed
16:14 < daja77> sorry :)
16:15 * daja77 is screaming around a bit
16:16 * blindcoder putting on headphones
16:16 * daja77 screams louder
16:18 < blindcoder> GGAAAHHHH
16:18 * blindcoder turns up Volume
16:18 * daja77 stops scraming
16:18 < daja77> screaming
16:18 * blindcoder doesn't notice
16:19 * daja77 wants to kill someone, owl are you around?
16:19 < blindcoder> daja77: what's uP?
16:21 < daja77> I try to integrate rtai configuration into Config, so far so good, I implemented everything the documented or have in menuconfig
16:21 < blindcoder> mhm
16:21 < Mike1> daja77: ow is not around but i am here.
16:21 < daja77> but when I look at their generated .config there are more options in it
16:21 < Mike1> moin all.
16:21 < daja77> hi Mike1
16:22 < daja77> Mike1: I can't kill you
16:22 < Mike1> why?
16:22 * daja77 likes Mike1
16:22 < Mike1> :) thanks
16:22 < blindcoder> daja77: so that means you don't liek owl
16:23 < daja77> ahem, no, but she is always seeking death
16:23 < blindcoder> hmm... okay
16:24 < daja77> the worst thing is that those hidden options are not documented anywhere
16:26 < daja77> hmm you can't even set them with make config :(
16:27 < blindcoder> oh
16:29 < daja77> seems I have to redo their magic
16:32 < daja77> .oO first version of realtime target will be a dirty hack, so don't hang me for that
16:34 * daja77 is confused as hell
16:38 < daja77> Mike1: what are you doin today?
16:38 < blindcoder> hmm
16:38 * blindcoder just did a cvs up
16:38 < Mike1> working on elks and fixing some stuff on the intouch targetm you?
16:38 < blindcoder> is it just me or are we basically back to 'base' and 'opt'?
16:39 < Mike1> blindcoder: ack.
16:39 < blindcoder> *sigh*
16:39 < blindcoder> I'm really looking forward to 2.0
16:39 < daja77> Mike1: fiddling on realtime target and maybe some bughunting in project sources
16:39 < blindcoder> so I can change all the crap I don't like
16:40 < blindcoder> and STILL have all the sources together in one place
16:41 * blindcoder getting coffee
16:41 < Mike1> blindcoder: define the crap that you don't like..
16:42 * daja77 getting coffee too
16:46 * Mike1 getting orange juice :)
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16:49 < blindcoder> Mike1: package categories, the multi-version-of-one-package issue for example
16:50 < blindcoder> I have a solution for ClanLib here, but I doubt that it wil be accepted
16:51 < Mike1> blindcoder: if you don't propose it you will never know.
16:51 < blindcoder> Mike1: remember the thing with bdb?
16:51 < blindcoder> it's just the same
16:51 < Mike1> yeah maybe you are right
16:51 < blindcoder> some games need V0.6.5, some need V0.7.2 and pingus even needs a patched 0.6.5
16:56 < daja77> but multiple versions of packages would be useful in other situations
16:57 < Mike1> depends
16:57 < blindcoder> I'll send the whole diff once cvs up is done and we'll see
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17:09 < daja77> hehe n00kie on board :)
17:09 < n00kie> Huhu daja77 :)
17:09 < daja77> hey n00kie what's up
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17:11 < n00kie> daja77: I'm configuring a Script :)
17:11 < daja77> O_o
17:12 < n00kie> Why so "shocked"?
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17:12 < daja77> I'm not shocked
17:12 < daja77> wb capchaos
17:12 < n00kie> surpressed :)
17:12 < n00kie> Hello capchaos
17:12 < capchaos> re daja77 n00kie
17:13 < daja77> anybody knows if we have a N/m/y switch for scripts/Config?
17:13 < n00kie> N/m/y =
17:13 < n00kie> ?
17:14 < daja77> not, module, yes like in the kernel
17:14 < Mike1> daja77: we have only n/y
17:14 < daja77> damn
17:14 < Mike1> yo n00kie
17:15 < Mike1> daja77: feel free to implement m :)
17:15 < n00kie> Howdy Mike1 :)
17:15 < capchaos> m = make a "mooh" sound ?
17:15 < daja77> dunno, if that patch would be accepted
17:16 < daja77> capchaos: mad cow, anyone *g*
17:16 < Mike1>  _______________________
17:16 < Mike1> < Did you call me capy? >
17:16 < Mike1>  -----------------------
17:16 < Mike1>         \   ^__^
17:16 < Mike1>          \  (oo)\_______
17:16 < Mike1>             (__)\       )\/\
17:16 < Mike1>                 ||----w |
17:16 < Mike1>                 ||     ||
17:17 < daja77> Mike1: cheap trick to increase your status :P
17:17 < capchaos> Matilda, yeah patch me with some weed
17:17 < Mike1> daja77: well get a nice patch and proposal and wait, you will never know if you don't send it
17:17 < Mike1> daja77: sure i am full of cheap and dirty tricks :)
17:18 < Mike1>  __________________________________
17:18 < Mike1> < capy sorry i gave it all to Mike >
17:18 < Mike1>  ----------------------------------
17:18 < Mike1>         \   ^__^
17:18 < Mike1>          \  (oo)\_______
17:18 < Mike1>             (__)\       )\/\
17:18 < Mike1>                 ||----w |
17:18 < Mike1>                 ||     ||
17:18 < daja77> Mike1: I wanted to add realtime target without interfering the rock scripts
17:18 < Mike1> daja77: mmm... well maybe you would like to show what you have done till now
17:18 < Mike1> and maybe i could help you out with some ideas
17:20 < Mike1> daja77: i have a long way to take 2nd place on the chat stats
17:20 < daja77> well, the option that needs it is obsolete anyway, I think I'll just skip it
17:20 < Mike1> huebi and esden are hard to beat.
17:20 < Mike1> daja77: but those options are for the kernel?
17:21 < daja77> hehe ...and esden maintains the logs
17:21 < daja77> Mike1: the rtai modules are indeed kernel modules
17:21 < Mike1> daja77: you can do that from target/rtai/config.in :)
17:22 < daja77> Mike1: I know that, doesn't help
17:22 < Mike1> why not?
17:22 < daja77> never mind, I said I skip that option
17:22 < Mike1> maybe have your own kernel.conf file .. ?
17:23 < daja77> it is really hard to explain...
17:23 < Mike1> daja77: arrggg i was feeling a worthy challenge on the way...
17:23 < daja77> Mike1: maybe in a query?
17:23 < Mike1> yes sure.
17:25 * blindcoder just found out that there's no bread left... so he's got to buy some before he can eat...
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17:30 < n00kie> re (:
17:44 < blindcoder> okay, flame-aggravating mails sent. will now buy some bread for dinner.
17:44 < blindcoder> bye, bbl
17:45 < daja77> bye blindcoder
17:48 < n00kie> have fun blindcoder :)
18:21 * blindcoder back
18:22 * blindcoder now making his stomach stop growling
18:22 < Mike1> wb blindcoder
18:22 < daja77> don't make such noise while eating :)
18:22 < blindcoder> hehe
18:23 * blindcoder turns up the volume to "Brood War Bash"
18:24 < blindcoder> "T T T T TH TH TH TH THI THI THI THI THIS IS NOT WARCRAFT IN SPACE!"
18:31 < n00kie> I am going to buy some breads
18:32 < n00kie> be right back :)
18:32 < blindcoder> hehe
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18:45 < A-Tui> hi friends
18:45 < daja77> hey A-Tui, wb
18:45 < Mike1> hi A-Tui
18:46 < A-Tui> which stage are gem packages built?
18:46 < A-Tui> now my build is on stage 5
18:46 < kasc> moin
18:47 < daja77> moin kasc
18:47 < Mike1> A-Tui: if you specify it to the rebuild stage .gems will be created on stage 9
18:47 < Mike1> else on stage 5 and 7
18:47 < Mike1> hi kasc
18:47 < A-Tui> ok, then on 9
18:47 < Mike1> A-Tui: happy waiting.. :))
18:47 < A-Tui> i'm worried about disk space :)
18:48 < daja77> A-Tui: enable always remove src dirs
18:48 < A-Tui> Mike1: biggest packages are not built yet :)
18:48 < A-Tui> daja77: i choose that too
18:48 < daja77> good, how much space do you have
18:48 < A-Tui> 1.7 Gb
18:48 < A-Tui> on stage 5
18:48 < Mike1> mm..
18:49 < Mike1> A-Tui: cross fingers :)
18:49 < daja77> this will not be enough I fear
18:49 < A-Tui> well i can mount another part quickly on gems are putting
18:49 < A-Tui> whats the path for gem packages?
18:50 < daja77> you'll have to interrupt the build and mount a partition on build dir
18:51 < A-Tui> mmm and if i mount a partition only for the binary packages?
18:51 < daja77> but wait if it finishes without that, I think you'll get in trouble when doin this
18:51 < daja77> the most space is wasted in the src dirs
18:51 < A-Tui> then i must say bye bye all my punks mp3 :(
18:51 < daja77> burn a cd
18:53 < A-Tui> yes, but i have a lot of temp downloads form mldonkey :)
18:53 < daja77> A-Tui: don't panic :)
18:53 < A-Tui> XD
18:54 < daja77> wait and see if the build finishes and if not think over it and then try again
18:54 < A-Tui> all things are less if ROCK 1.7 are ok
18:55 < A-Tui> well, i'm going to study a bit, see you later! bye
18:55 < daja77> cu A-Tui
18:56 * A-Tui is away: A la mierda ideologías e ideólogos también!
19:11 * daja77 is goin home now
19:11 < daja77> bye, cu
19:11 < ringo78> by daja77
19:11 < daja77> bye ringo78, haven't noticed you around :(
19:12 < ringo78> something with agp ;-)
19:12 < Mike1> hi ringo78
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19:13 < ringo78> Mike you know hot to get agp up and running Geforce 4 MX 440 SE AGP 8* ?
19:14 < Mike1> ringo78: i have only made it with a GeForce 2
19:14 < ringo78> It says something like chipset not supported :-( Guess I'll have to wait ..
19:14 < Mike1> mm..
19:15 < Mike1> ringo78: check the xfree page :)
19:20 < blindcoder> ringo78: nvidia-driver or nv-driver?
19:21 < ringo78> blindcoder: in kernel .
19:21 < blindcoder> hmm... if the nvidia driver doesn't support the GeForce4 MX then I'd be very disappointed... mine will arrive tomorrow via UPS
19:22 < Mike1> nothing like eating chocolate when you are disappointed
19:23 * blindcoder hits Mike1 with some decaf-coffee
19:23 < Mike1> blindcoder: what did i do?!?!
19:23 < blindcoder> Mike1: chocolate... *snif*
19:24 < ringo78> blindcoder: I'll have a trye with nv-driver, hopefully nvidia will find it.
19:24 < blindcoder> ringo78: okay
19:25 * Mike1 shows blindcoder a white chocolate bar.... :)
19:26 < blindcoder> GAAAAH!!
19:26 < Mike1> forget it! its mine :)
19:26 * blindcoder goes taking a shower and preparing for fun tonight which is preparation for hangover tomorrow
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19:26 < kasc> blindcoder: where did you get the information from that pingus need a specially patched version of clanlib?
19:27 < blindcoder> kasc: from a developer
19:28 < blindcoder> it "works" with an unpatched, but mouse-wheel won't work, a "close" button will be htere on twindows which crashes the game and some problems with the "console" will appear
19:28 < kasc> hmm
19:29 < kasc> didnt notice any of those bugs...
19:29 < blindcoder> that's waht I've been told. You used the binary or the source?
19:29 < kasc> source
19:29 < blindcoder> hmm
19:29 < blindcoder> strange...
19:30 < kasc> without any patches. neither clanlib nor pingus
19:30 < Mike1> arrgggg.. i hate having to buy the CD because of the browsers encoding
19:30 < Mike1> *g
19:31 < blindcoder> okay, I'm off now.
19:31 < blindcoder> baba
19:31 < Mike1> cu
19:31 < kasc> cya
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19:53 < n00kie> Back from dinner.
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20:33 < BeTa-glop> hi...
20:34 < BeTa-glop> I'm writing a paper on source-based distros...
20:34 < BeTa-glop> can you tell me when rock's story began plz.. or any URL explaining its story ?
20:34 < tfing> www.rocklinux.org
20:34 < tfing> it should have everything
20:34 < BeTa-glop> about
20:34 < BeTa-glop> sry... I didn't see ;c)
20:35 < tfing> the history ?
20:35 < BeTa-glop> nope.. there no
20:35 < BeTa-glop> yes... when did it starts... or something like that ;c)
20:35 < tfing> http://e-zine.nluug.nl/hold.html?cid=1 <- here in short
20:35 < BeTa-glop> great
20:35 < BeTa-glop> thx
20:37 < BeTa-glop> respect : In the Summer of 1998
20:37 < BeTa-glop> I was really wrong :c(
20:38 < tfing> clifford explained more in details the origin of rock in the mailing list
20:39 < tfing> http://rocklinux.de/mailing-list/rock-linux/2003-2/81.html
20:39 < tfing> here it is :)
20:40 < rxr> re
20:41 < tfing> re rxr
20:41 < tfing> BeTa-glop: found you http://linuxfr.org/~beta/ :)
20:42 < A-Tui> what sgml is on ROCK 1.6?
20:42 < A-Tui> what sgml parse is on ROCK 1.6?
20:42 < BeTa-glop> tfing: :c)
20:42 < BeTa-glop> tfing: well done ;c)
20:42 < tfing> ^_^
20:43 < BeTa-glop> tfing: lets see it : http://doc.gentoofr.org/
20:43 < BeTa-glop> tfing: lets see it : http://doc.gentoofr.org/Member/BeTa
20:43 < BeTa-glop> tfing: it's more fun... but in french... ;c)
20:43 < BeTa-glop> tfing: how did you do ? "beta" is such a common word !!
20:44 < tfing> BeTa-glop: you're french
20:44 < BeTa-glop> tfing: :c)... yes :c)
20:44 < tfing> where do french linux users get registered ? :)
20:44 < BeTa-glop> :cb
20:45 < BeTa-glop> where is my nationality written ?
20:45 < BeTa-glop> ;c)
20:45 < tfing> plouf is a french word i think :)
20:46 < BeTa-glop> pouf.org :c)
20:46 < BeTa-glop> it's just like "pouf" ;c)
20:46 < BeTa-glop> phonetically... it's quite easy ;c)
20:46 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-ls-15-2-dialup-52.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux
20:46 < zer0_o> hi all
20:46 < BeTa-glop> glop
20:47 < tfing> BeTa-glop: btw, don't misunderstand my .se
20:48 < BeTa-glop> arf... sry :c)
20:48 < BeTa-glop> by Jocelyn - Sunday, June 20th 1999 20:10 PST
20:48 < zer0_o> hi Mike1
20:48 < zer0_o> =)
20:48 < BeTa-glop> if the project was registered on freshmeat soon... it has the date advantage...
20:48 < zer0_o> where's owl ?
20:49 < BeTa-glop> it's terrible... for every distro... founding its creation date is really difficult !! strange..
20:51 < Mike1> 0_o hi :)
20:51 < zer0_o> o_0
20:51 < zer0_o> how are you ?
20:52 < n00kie> zer0_o: O.o
20:53 < zer0_o> <0_o> <o_0>
20:53 < Mike1> (*)(*)
20:53 < zer0_o> =P
20:53 < _NULL> re
20:53 < Mike1> _NULL: !
20:53 < _NULL> hi Mike1
20:54 * Mike1 gives a bear hug owl
20:54 < _NULL> :) thx
20:54 < Mike1> _NULL: good to see you, i was missing you .
20:54 * zer0_o send Mike1 to /dev/_NULL
20:54 < _NULL> zer0_o: *kick*
20:54 < Mike1> zer0_o: what did i do?
20:54 < zer0_o> owl is _NULL ?
20:54 < Mike1> _NULL: thanks baby.
20:54 < _NULL> zer0_o: yes. i'm "owl"
20:55 < zer0_o> ah ..  sorry
20:55 < _NULL> :p
20:55 < zer0_o> *smack*
20:56 < _NULL> gnaaaa.. fsck. i don't see the monitor which is standing about 2 meters in front of me
20:56 < zer0_o> how big is that monitor ?? ,) 0.01 mm ?
20:57 < _NULL> *g* nope. 17 "
20:57 < zer0_o> you definatly need glases...
20:57 < zer0_o> oh, you already have, i forgot..
20:57 < _NULL> i have glasses... but... they're not on my nose right now
20:58 < zer0_o> you can borrow mine:   -O~O-
20:59 < _NULL> zer0_o: thx ;)
20:59 < zer0_o> no problem
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21:00 < _NULL> damit. now i 'll get cancer ... eye-cancer... caused by seeing windows! help!
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21:02 < Mike1> poor _NULL
21:02 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-ls-15-2-dialup-52.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux
21:02 < _NULL> Mike1: :pppp
21:02 < zer0_o> oo0Pss .
21:02 -!- BeTa-glop [~BeTa@pouf.org] has left #rocklinux ("thx a lot folks :c)")
21:02 < zer0_o> this was an 'x' hit to much ... =(
21:03 < _NULL> zer0_o: haha
21:03 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-073-021.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux
21:03 < daja77> re
21:03 < zer0_o> _NULL: =PP
21:04 < zer0_o> _NULL: with your nick, you represent my livestyle ,)
21:04 < _NULL> zer0_o: ah - nihilistic one?
21:05 < zer0_o> just a sec, i have to get babel ,)
21:05 < daja77> omg, not two of them...
21:05 < zer0_o> whats nihilistic ? ,)
21:05 < daja77> basically saying no to everything
21:06 < zer0_o> ah , no ...
21:06 < _NULL> zer0_o: ???
21:06 < daja77> and of course denying everything include oneself
21:06 < zer0_o> but feeling as a null everytime
21:06 * _NULL too :p
21:06 < daja77> zer0_o: why
21:07 < zer0_o> it's in my nature
21:07 < capchaos> Can anyone tell me what gcc-2.95.3 is needed for in 1.7 ?
21:07 < Mike1> capchaos: to get on my nerves..
21:08 < daja77> ahem Mike1, everything ok?
21:08 < Mike1> daja77: yeah.
21:08 * daja77 is trying to fix broken grub setup with knoppix :(
21:09 < capchaos> Mike1, didn't mean to get on your nerves..
21:09 < zer0_o> knoppix ? it sounds like a gourmet menu from knorr, or a name for asterix' cousin...
21:10 < Mike1> capchaos: no no, i was answering to ur question...
21:10 < capchaos> Mike1, oh, so it's not actually needed?
21:10 < Mike1> see ----> <capchaos> Can anyone tell me what gcc-2.95.3 is needed for in 1.7 ?
21:10 -!- ac [~anders@dsl-62-3-122-162.zen.co.uk] has joined #rocklinux
21:10 < Mike1> you can settle to gcc3
21:10 < capchaos> hi ac
21:11 < ac> lo capchaos
21:11 < Mike1> Master ac!!
21:11 < daja77> zer0_o: linux distribution from klaus knopper running from cdrom
21:11 < _NULL> hi ac
21:11 < ac> lo Mike1
21:11 < capchaos> ac, are you Alan Cox? :-)
21:11 < ac> lo _NULL
21:11 < ac> capchaos: hardly.. :)
21:11 < Mike1> capchaos: he is not alan cox but you are close
21:11 < daja77> anders why the different nick?
21:11 < zer0_o> deja77, i felt hungry when i heard knopix ,)
21:11 < ac> daja77: shorter... :)
21:12 < daja77> zer0_o: eat something, and stop complaining
21:12 -!- ac is now known as [anders[
21:12 < daja77> ac: doesn't matter, tab exists :)
21:12 -!- [anders[ is now known as [anders]
21:12 < [anders]> argh.. :)
21:12 < daja77> :)
21:13 < Mike1> daja77: do you know who [anders] is?
21:13 < daja77> no, only that he is an ibm guy
21:13 < Mike1> daja77: not an ... the :)
21:13 < daja77> Mike1: -v
21:14 < [anders]> daja77: I'm not exactly an IBM'er....
21:14 < Mike1> daja77: [anders] is one the few ones i call Master :)
21:14 < daja77> [anders]: who are you :)
21:14 < Mike1> daja77: You know Alan Cox, Anders Carlsson, Piotr Esden Tempsky..
21:15 < [anders]> daja77: just a linux tinkerer.. :)
21:15 < [anders]> I on occation post crud to the rock linux mailing list.
21:15 < daja77> Mike1: the first and the last yes
21:15 < daja77> [anders]: hehe, what are doin at ibm, if not working for them?
21:15 < Mike1> daja77: that was the ones i call master
21:16 < [anders]> daja77: I am a consultant in my spare time.. ;-)
21:16 < daja77> Mike1: ok
21:16 < daja77> [anders]: so what's your business then?
21:16 < [anders]> daja77: linux, aix, perl and shell scripts..
21:16 < daja77> sounds cool
21:16 < [anders]> daja77: http://www.trudheim.com
21:18 < daja77> one man company, nice
21:18 < Mike1> daja77: 2 men comapny
21:18 < Mike1> :)
21:18 < daja77> Mike1: you are the second?
21:18 < [anders]> daja77: well, got to do it that way unfortunately.. Inland Revenue rules.. :(
21:19 < daja77> damn rules
21:22 < daja77> WEEEEEE, booted rock on my sister's laptop
21:22 * [anders] got SuSE Pro 8.2 tuesday morning..
21:23 < [anders]> don't want to update my laptop with it just yet though..
21:23 * daja77 doesn't like SuSE
21:24 < [anders]> SuSE is good enough.. I needed something that 'just worked' and didn't require two hours maintenance every day..
21:24 < daja77> huh, SuSE needs a helping everywhere
21:25 < tcr> hey rxr... Hmm, when you send a private mail additionally, could you please add either rock-linux@... or my adress to CC, but not both to TO:? My mailer doesn't get the latter case right... and will automatically only send to you back
21:25 < [anders]> daja77: not had to help SuSE particularly much.. there is one thing I am working on fixing.. S14alsasound in rc[235].d needs to be moved to S04alsasound, but that is about it.
21:25 < Mike1> SuSE is ok if you ask me..
21:26 < daja77> or did you mean something that yast worked, scnr
21:26 < tcr> hi anders. Yeah, can feel with you... I'm getting more and more in this mood actually
21:26 < daja77> tcr: hi and thx for saving the channel :)
21:26 < tcr> moin daja
21:26 < daja77> Mike1: what do you mean with ok?
21:27 < Mike1> daja77: that is usable..
21:27 < daja77> well, in that case I prefer redhat
21:28 < tcr> Traitor!!! ;)
21:28 < Mike1> daja77: i would work for SuSE or redhat if they came up with a good
21:28 < Mike1> good... $ offer
21:29 < Mike1> :)
21:29 < tcr> Buy SuSE and help the german conjuncture ;)
21:29 < capchaos> Hehe
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21:29 < [anders]> tcr: so you are looking for something that just works as well? :)
21:30 < tcr> [anders]: Well, sometimes ;) but then my 'Damn, just hack it dead!' site has still the overhand ;)
21:31 < [anders]> tcr: I just don't have the time to hack things about anymore.. I needed something that just 'was there and worked'...
21:31 < daja77> tcr: I don't care whether suse is german or not, I don't wanna have it
21:31 < tcr> [anders]: Yup... can imagine that, really.
21:31 < [anders]> I have used SuSE before, and I must admit, SLPro 8.1 was very very slick.. From what I can tell from the suse-linux-e mailing list, 8.2 is even better..
21:31 < Mike1> daja77: do you wanna have _NULL?
21:31 < tcr> daja77: Bah.
21:32 < daja77> tcr: from nuremberg?
21:32 < daja77> Mike1: psst
21:32 < tcr> Nah, but would like to life their... beautiful city
21:32 < Mike1> tsstss
21:33 < rxr> hi Mike1
21:33 < daja77> Mike1: to be honest it is mean to ask something like that
21:33 < daja77> hi rxr
21:33 < daja77> tcr: where from?
21:34 < Mike1> hi rxr
21:34 < Mike1> daja77: well some people say i am mean
21:34 < daja77> add me to the list
21:34 < tcr> Mainz
21:34 < daja77> *g*
21:34 < [anders]> lo rxr
21:35 < daja77> rxr: fixed grub setup manually :)
21:35 < tcr> [anders]: please rename to ac again... brackets are damn unhandy to type
21:35 < Mike1> tcr: lol
21:35 < daja77> tcr: lazy guy
21:36 < tcr> :P I'm at last a wannabe suse user!
21:36 -!- [anders] is now known as ac
21:36 < daja77> a wannabe suse luser...
21:36 < zer0_o> shame on you tcr
21:36 < ac> daja77: don't knock it.. :) SuSE actually has done quite well.. is a lot better than DeadRat at any rate.. ;-)
21:37 < daja77> ac: maybe, but most people I know using suse are utterly lusers
21:37 < tcr> maybe because you just reside among lusers ;)))
21:37 * daja77 fixed a suse some weeks ago
21:37 < A-Tui> i'm getting mad with docbook!
21:37 < ac> daja77: well, suse is easy to use..
21:38 < daja77> tcr: I do at work, like most people
21:38 < ac> daja77: you work in the wrong place then.. ;-)
21:39 < tcr> daja77: If I need a new dosis of luserness I just join into here ;))) *sfg*
21:39 < daja77> ac: I'll change after I finished my studies
21:39 * ac always get suprised at how little I know when talking to people on site..
21:39 < daja77> tcr: do not confuse us with you
21:40 < daja77> well, we are all lusers sometimes, the point is to be it clever
21:44 < daja77> yeah I killed discussion *g*
21:44 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M262P014.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux
21:45 < daja77> n00kie: nice to see you again
21:45 < n00kie> Huhu daja77
21:45 < daja77> *argl*
21:47 < rxr> daja77: what was the problem ?
21:48 -!- zer0_o is now known as zer0_oSNES
21:48 < daja77> rxr: well, I just said setuo (hd0) and bootsector was initialized, but still could not boot because device map was broken
21:49 < daja77> strange, I fixed it with writing (hd0) /dev/hda into that file
21:50 < daja77> at least I had to fix menu.lst because instead of (hd0,0) the was !NO DEVICE MAP FOUND in that file
21:50 < daja77> you might say it was completely broken
21:51 < n00kie> daja77: Grub problems?
21:51 < daja77> n00kie: yes
21:51 < n00kie> what#s the problem?
21:52 < daja77> n00kie: I don't need your help, fixed it myself
21:53 < ac> grub is cool.. got some nice features..
21:53 < daja77> ac: yes, but stone was unable to do the setup right :(
21:53 < n00kie> daja77: That listened bad
21:54 < daja77> n00kie: ??
21:54 * A-Tui is back (gone 02:57:34)
21:54 < daja77> re A-Tui
21:54 < ac> stone?
21:54 < n00kie> I don't need your help listenes like:"I don't need your help, I'm better then you"
21:54 < n00kie> wb A-Tui
21:55 < daja77> n00kie: no, it is just a problem of the past
21:55 < Mike1> n00kie: just don't listen to him.
21:55 < tcr> n00kie: Not listen in this case but sound
21:55 < daja77> Mike1: heh, what have I done to you
21:55 < A-Tui> re all
21:55 < tcr> daja77 is our troll! Yeah, gotcha!! haha
21:55 < n00kie> daja77: But I know, you haven't meaned it so :)
21:56 < Mike1> daja77: nothing, but that was a nice way to talk to someone willing to help you
21:56 < n00kie> Holla Mike1 :)
21:56 < n00kie> wb A-Tui
21:56 < A-Tui> hi n00kie
21:56 < Mike1> Saludos A-Tui and n00kie :)
21:56 < A-Tui> holitas Mike1 :)
21:56 < daja77> Mike1: sorry, don't wanna hurt somebody
21:56 < A-Tui> what are you talking about?
21:56 < Mike1> daja77: that was _not_ a nice way to ...
21:57 < Mike1> daja77: its ok just give n00kiea hug :)
21:57 < A-Tui> i read something like "i'm better tha you....."
21:57 < n00kie> no
21:57 < n00kie> i know that daja77 doesn't meaned it so :)
21:57 < n00kie> We are friends :)
21:57 < Mike1> A-Tui: don't pay attention to that it was a missunderstood.
21:58 < A-Tui> Mike1: yes, i supposed that, this is a ROCK Linux channel, buen rollo ever :)
21:58 < daja77> Mike1: I got it, I just did not want to tell the whole story again, cos the issue got on my nerves, sorry again
21:58 < Mike1> daja77: relax brother :)
21:58 < Mike1> A-Tui: yeah almost everybody here is nice.
21:58 < A-Tui> daja77: what's happen friend?
21:58 * daja77 relaxes
21:59 < A-Tui> Mike1: yes, that the reason for that a love this channel :)
21:59 < Mike1> hehe :)
21:59 < Mike1> A-Tui: even Alan Cox comes here
21:59 < tcr> Well, if he hadn't added 'fixed it myself', it would have sounded harsh, but so it's actually ok..
21:59 < daja77> lol
21:59 < Mike1> right ac ? :)
21:59 < A-Tui> Alan Cox!!! wOw
21:59 < daja77> thx tcr
21:59 < A-Tui> :)
22:00 < tcr> daja77: we german brother must hold together against the axis of evil anywhere there in austria ;)))
22:00 < n00kie> Alan Cox has more respect than any other people :)
22:00 < A-Tui> n00kie: not for me :)
22:00 < n00kie> ehehe
22:01 < daja77> n00kie: don't listen to tcr :)
22:01 < Mike1> A-Tui: no?!?!
22:01 < A-Tui> Mike1: All people have respect for me!!
22:01 < Mike1> A-Tui: yeah sure :)
22:01 < daja77> A-Tui: explain
22:01 < n00kie> yes A-Tui
22:01 < A-Tui> i don't belive in heros :)
22:01 < ac> uh.. who?
22:01 < Mike1> A-Tui: Alan is not a hero.. is an Alien :)
22:02 < A-Tui> daja77: i mean that nobody has more respect than other for his name
22:02 < daja77> ac: Mike1 is pulling your leg, don't worry
22:02 < A-Tui> Mike1: :)
22:02 < ac> daja77: uhu..
22:03 < n00kie> A-Tui: Sure
22:03 < A-Tui> i think here people think same thing
22:03 * daja77 not :)
22:03 < A-Tui> daja77: explain?
22:04 < daja77> nothing, just remembering a monty python scene...
22:04 < A-Tui> XD
22:08 < daja77> A-Tui: XD??
22:08 < A-Tui> XD == laugh
22:08 < daja77> hmmm
22:08 < A-Tui> i think the same thing that lol, true?
22:09 < daja77> yes
22:09 < tcr> nope, not entirely
22:09 < daja77> tcr: a bit like it
22:09 < A-Tui> what is "lol" then?
22:09 < tcr> "man, ain't this cool XD"
22:10 < tcr> like an amazing laugh or something
22:10 < daja77> tcr: lol == laughing oot loud
22:10 < daja77> out, damn
22:10 < tcr> with an ironic touch
22:10 < A-Tui> aha
22:10 < tcr> yeah but XD is not quite the same
22:10 < A-Tui> no
22:10 < daja77> tcr: what is it then?
22:10 < A-Tui> XD makes loud :)
22:11 < tcr> I can't express it, sorry -- but it's not the same
22:11 < A-Tui> well, don't matter :)
22:11 < tcr> gimme a moment...
22:12 < ac> right.. time to go to bed me thinks.. got to get up early in the morning..
22:12 < A-Tui> bye ac
22:12 < daja77> ac: gn8, cu
22:13 < A-Tui> and what is gn8?
22:13 < n00kie> good night
22:13 < tcr> I wouldst want to wished you a beautiful night, ac
22:13 < n00kie> sleep well daja77
22:13 < tcr> wishest
22:13 < daja77> n00kie: ???
22:13 < n00kie> ah
22:13 < n00kie> sleep well ac
22:13 < ac> night night all.. :)
22:13 < n00kie> A-Tui: In German Gute (g) Nacht 8==acht (gn8) == good night
22:13 < n00kie> :)
22:13 < ac> will do.. I hope.. :)
22:13 < capchaos> gnu8 ac
22:14 < ac> ~~~
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22:14 < A-Tui> ah, it's german ok
22:14 < tcr> tfing: !!!
22:14 < tcr> tfing: ping
22:14 < tfing> tcr ?
22:14 < tcr> ah good you're here
22:14 < tfing> yes :)
22:17 < daja77> hey tfing
22:17 < tfing> hi daja77
22:18 < zer0_oSNES> n8 all
22:19 < daja77> n8 gamer :)
22:19 < zer0_oSNES> lol
22:19 < zer0_oSNES> some times it has to be ,)
22:19 < daja77> np, n8
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22:26 < daja77> hey ruddur, what's up?
22:26 < ruddur> hi, daja77
22:26 < daja77> you have been away a long time
22:26 < ruddur> yes
22:27 < daja77> then wb ruddur
22:27 < ruddur> i have a problem with x window
22:27 < capchaos> hi ruddur hi daja77 :)
22:27 < ruddur> i startx but not graphic
22:28 < daja77> ruddur: error message
22:28 < ruddur> no
22:28 < ruddur> only the picture of gnome
22:28 < ruddur> et nothing else
22:28 < ruddur> nothing prog
22:28 < daja77> tried other wm?
22:28 < capchaos> picture of gnome?
22:29 < ruddur> the same with kde
22:29 < daja77> capchaos: you gnomes are little people
22:29 < daja77> strange
22:29 < daja77> you know even
22:29 < capchaos> daja77, hehe that's why I try to mind Gnome(s)
22:29 < ruddur> probably the links with the directory of kde or gnome
22:29 < ruddur> i don't no
22:30 < ruddur> i don't know
22:30 < capchaos> ruddur, try wmaker or icewm
22:31 < ruddur> this is not the problem i think
22:31 < capchaos> ruddur, what is missing there in gnome or kde?
22:32 < ruddur> i think X don't have the link for kde or gnome
22:32 < capchaos> ??
22:32 < capchaos> What exactly do you see when you startx?
22:32 < ruddur> it's configured in xinitrc
22:32 < ruddur> it boot
22:32 < daja77> ruddur: start a xterm in .xinitrc?
22:33 < ruddur> xterm is good in starx
22:33 < ruddur> but no interface
22:33 < capchaos> You can start KDE or Gnome by hand in that xterm ;)
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22:33 < ruddur> how
22:33 < daja77> wm is missing, add gnome-session to .xinitrc
22:34 < capchaos> yeah
22:34 < capchaos> gnome-session or startkde or something :)
22:34 < ruddur> i make it
22:34 < ruddur> but nothing prog of kde or gnome
22:34 < ruddur> only colored backgroud
22:35 < ruddur> only colored background
22:35 < daja77> :(
22:35 < ruddur> there is the default install of rocklinux iso 1.7.19c3
22:36 < daja77> now, you mention it, it is broken, doesn't work here
22:36 < rxr> ruddur: why such an old one?
22:36 < rxr> we had an Technology Preview 1 and 2 as well as an alpha release after the 19c3 iso ...
22:37 < tcr> rxr: Already managed it to test that sed thingie?
22:38 < daja77> rxr: guess he made the download before ypur upload
22:39 < daja77> .oO typos getting worse
22:39 < rxr> tcr: err no :-(
22:40 < tcr> hmm.. would be good if you could do it this night
22:43 < daja77> ruddur: you can fix it by installing all the packages again :(
22:46 < ruddur> ok thanks
22:46 < daja77> not forget to redo ldconfig
22:46 < ruddur> ok
22:47 < A-Tui> see you later, bye
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22:57 < tcr> "Love is... Patching each other's kernel."
22:57 < daja77> *rofl*
22:58 < capchaos> *g*
23:00 < daja77> tcr: creative tonight?
23:01 < tcr> I'm merging changes from an internal development branch to my tree for clean changesets
23:01 < tcr> of CDK
23:01 < daja77> CDK???
23:01 < tcr> curses development kit
23:02 < daja77> *urgs*
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23:08 < tcr> still 10 minutes till dirty harry
23:08 < Mike1> que tal mauricio?
23:08 < mauricio> Mike1, en toas!
23:08 < mauricio> Mike1, vos?
23:09 < Mike1> mauricio: good thanks :)
23:09 < mauricio> Mike1, cool!
23:09 < Mike1> mauricio: on holidays already?
23:11 < mauricio> Mike1, not yet!, i'm working today
23:11 < Mike1> wanna play pool tonight?
23:12 < mauricio> Mike1, ... i gotta sleep, i have a fuckin' hangover
23:12 < Mike1> hehe
23:28 < daja77> tcr: dirty harry movies are dull
23:29 < tcr> ????
23:29 < tcr> you're talking about TEH harald schmidt?
23:29 < daja77> tcr: nope, dirty harry alias clint eastwood, sorry
23:30 < daja77> I'll go to bed now, gn8
23:30 < tcr> hm??
23:30 < tcr> harald ist an!
23:30 < daja77> tcr: dirty harry, stupid movies, never mind
23:31 < daja77> bye bye
23:31 < tcr> im talking about harald schmidt
23:31 < tcr> anyway, gn8
23:31 < daja77> tcr: I got it, I was not, sorry again
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23:44 < rxr> n8
23:44 < tcr> gn8 rxr
23:44 * rxr off, too
23:44 < rxr> tcr: btw I have not tested yet
23:45 < rxr> and I guess I'll not have the time for such test because my TODO is already quite long
23:45 < rxr> you could also boot strap a stage0-4 ... ;-)
23:45 < rxr> n8
23:45 < Mike1> holy shit!
23:45 < Mike1> http://www.linuxmag.nl/Tux2MS/tux_barney.jpg
23:56 < _NULL> gn8 all
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