--- Log opened Fri Apr 18 00:00:01 2003
--- Day changed Fri Apr 18 2003
00:00 < daja77> hmmmm
00:00 < A-Tui> but i don't see anything wrong
00:00 < kasc_> time for me to go to bed now
00:00 < kasc_> gn8
00:00 < daja77> kasc_: n8
00:00 < A-Tui> gn8 kasc_
00:00 < A-Tui> w0w i can speak german!!! :)
00:01 < daja77> A-Tui: ??
00:01 < A-Tui> gn8 <--- it was a joke (not very good, i see...)
00:01 < capchaos> hehe
00:01 < daja77> good night matches gn8 as well, but never mind
00:02 < A-Tui> daja77: yes, but i said german match :)
00:03 < daja77> A-Tui: nice :)
00:05 < A-Tui> any suggest for onsgml error?
00:05 < daja77> A-Tui: how could I, haven't seen the document
00:06 < A-Tui> daja77: now i paste you, i put only 1 tag to test it, and fails too
00:06 < daja77> paste it in a query
00:07 < A-Tui> oka
00:11 < necronomicon> re
00:12 < A-Tui> hi necronomicon
00:20 < necronomicon> How long does it take to compile glib in stage 1 on a 500 mhz machine?
00:20 < TrAns13nT> ok, back to isntall now
00:21 < necronomicon> hi transient
00:21 < daja77> necronomicon: at least an hour I fear
00:21 * TrAns13nT waves
00:22 < capchaos> re transient
00:23 < necronomicon> == 23:08:51 =[1]=> Building base/glibc23 [2.3.2 1.7-snapshot].
00:23 < necronomicon> More than one hour
00:23 < daja77> yeah needs more than half an hour on athlonxp 1800+
00:24 < TrAns13nT> is the intel c/c++ compilier a gcc alternative or something?
00:24 < daja77> TrAns13nT: basically yes
00:25 < TrAns13nT> hmmm, i suppoes it supports different options then gcc does?
00:25 < TrAns13nT> *suppose
00:25 < daja77> dunno
00:26 < TrAns13nT> sounds good to me ;-)
00:26 < necronomicon> It optimizes the binaries blabla <insert some intel marketing shit>
00:26 < capchaos> TrAns13nT, what you need it for?
00:26 < TrAns13nT> don't like the sonund of intel anyhting runnin on my amd tbh
00:26 < TrAns13nT> jsut going through the optins of the config script
00:27 < rxr> the icc is not able to compile some low-level code and also only some subset of the C++ packages
00:27 < rxr> if you are not a real hacker I would not try to build a major set of packages with icc ...
00:27 < TrAns13nT> might play with a sometime later
00:28 < rxr> TrAns13nT: are you in a german speaking country?
00:28 < TrAns13nT> nope
00:28 < rxr> hm - too bad. In the last issue of the c't was a article about icc vs. gcc ... ;-)
00:28 * daja77 laughs
00:29 < necronomicon> I suppose he'd read the German "Computerbild" if he was germanophone
00:29 < rxr> daja77: because of the article ?
00:30 < daja77> rxr: nope, cos I mistakenly spoke german to TrAns13nT :)
00:30 < necronomicon> lol
00:31 < rxr> hm martin left :-(
00:32 < daja77> martin left hours ago
00:33 < daja77> necronomicon: who are you talking about
00:34 < necronomicon> TrAns13nT.
00:34 < daja77> necronomicon: then say she :)
00:35 < necronomicon> Oh!
00:35 < necronomicon> *G*
00:37 < TrAns13nT> lots of options in the config script, very impressed
00:37 < daja77> lol
00:38 < TrAns13nT> it's the best formatted and thought out ncurses install I've ever used
00:38 < daja77> hmmm
00:38 < TrAns13nT> mdk's is sloppy imo, and too much of a resource hog by far
00:39 < daja77> :)
00:39 < TrAns13nT> and 9.1 is just so much bloat, the text install was the only option for my old machine, I could manage vgalo with 8.2
00:40 < capchaos> TrAns13nT, welcome to the mandrake evading club [tm]
00:41 < TrAns13nT> i don't run mdk fior more then 20 minutes at a time after doing a fresh install and only then because a freind asks me to
00:41 < necronomicon> Build of glib has finished
00:41 < necronomicon> ~1,5h
00:42 < daja77> glibc, right?
00:42 < necronomicon> Exactly
00:42 < necronomicon> sry.
00:42 < daja77> np
00:51 < TrAns13nT> ok, I'm sure I musta missed somehting simple
00:51 < TrAns13nT> I run the Download -required script, and I'm getting this error message .....
00:52 < necronomicon> install curl
00:52 < TrAns13nT> Downloading download/bas/attr/attr-2.2.0.src.tar.gz...
00:52 < TrAns13nT> curls installed
00:52 < necronomicon> ok
00:52 < necronomicon> go ahead
00:52 < necronomicon> sry
00:52 < TrAns13nT> INFO: Found src/Download-Miror: none (use the origianl download locations)
00:53 < daja77> so no problem, I see
00:53 < TrAns13nT> INFO: To force a new mirror auto-detection, remove src/Download-Mirror
00:53 < necronomicon> do so
00:54 < TrAns13nT> ERROR: According to src/Download-Errors we already had an error for that URL>
00:54 < capchaos> rm src/Download-Errors
00:54 < daja77> thx capchaos, my thought
00:54 < TrAns13nT> there we go
00:54 < TrAns13nT> new it ahd to be something simple
00:54 < capchaos> TrAns13nT, if it still doesn't work try another mirror or even the original download locations
00:54 * TrAns13nT is slighty intoxicated
00:54 < daja77> capchaos: she already does
00:54 < TrAns13nT> it's testuing the mirrors now
00:55 < capchaos> TrAns13nT, intoxicated? What does it mean? :)
00:55 * TrAns13nT smoked a little of the green stuffs ;-)
00:55 < daja77> hehe
00:55 < capchaos> Hehe, where you live? I'll need to visit you.
00:56 < daja77> capchaos: forget it, if you can't even reach me :)
00:56 * capchaos has nothing more left ;(
00:56 < capchaos> daja77 :P
00:56 < TrAns13nT> Weather  Houghton, MI (49931):  Cloudy, 28░F
00:56 * TrAns13nT shivers
00:57 * TrAns13nT is still waiting on cold white stuff to go away
00:57 < daja77> sunshine here today
00:58 < daja77> 18░C ;)
00:58 * TrAns13nT curls up next to my cpu, 42C
00:59 < bluefire> TrAns13nT: dcc me some of the green stuff ;)
00:59 < necronomicon> pot?
01:00 < daja77> hey bluefire
01:00 < TrAns13nT> ain't got none of my own
01:00 < TrAns13nT> yeah
01:00 < TrAns13nT> question, does the download script look to see if a source file is already dl'd b4 attempting to dl it?
01:00 < daja77> yes
01:00 < capchaos> 1
01:01 < TrAns13nT> and it looks in src/ i assume?
01:01 < daja77> no in download/*
01:01 * TrAns13nT smells brownies cookin, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
01:01 < TrAns13nT> ok, thanx
01:01 < capchaos> TrAns13nT, peace brownies? :)
01:01 < TrAns13nT> time to kill the scipt and transfer all my sources then ;-)
01:01 < TrAns13nT> unfortunately not
01:03 < capchaos> Too bad :P
01:03 < TrAns13nT> and the kernel source directy insde dl would be in which, base/, rene/, or x86/?
01:04 < daja77> base/linux-24
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01:04 < capchaos> hi n00kie_
01:04 < TrAns13nT> thank ya kindly
01:04 < daja77> hey n00kie :)
01:05 < daja77> TrAns13nT: np
01:05 < TrAns13nT> i could use some of that too
01:06 < TrAns13nT> gonna take a while to move all the source to different directories O_o
01:06 < daja77> :)
01:06 < capchaos> TrAns13nT, have a fruit tea :)
01:07 < TrAns13nT> not to keen on tea
01:07 < daja77> coffee?
01:07 < TrAns13nT> too young for coffee
01:07 < rxr> so - maybe the Mac is booting my CD now ...
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01:08 < daja77> rxr: good /me is waiting for that cd...
01:09 < A-Tui> aggh*** critical erro on ROCK building
01:09 < A-Tui> no more left disk space :(
01:09 < daja77> no space left on device?
01:09 < rxr> daja77: you already have a mac?
01:10 < A-Tui>  /dev/sda1             3,7G  3,7G     0 100% /mnt/rock
01:10 < daja77> rxr: nope, but a friend, I'll get a mac soon
01:10 < rxr> so now most seem to work - if I would not have forgotten a kernel root= options ...
01:10 < rxr>  :-(
01:11 < daja77> *argh*
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01:14 < TrAns13nT> ok, is there somewhere particual that would be the best place to stick all the rest of these sources I have?
01:14 < TrAns13nT> *particular
01:14 < rxr> daja77: so next try in some seconds ;-)
01:14 < rxr> daja77: what mac are you going to buy? the powerbook as you mentioned some weeks ago?
01:14 -!- con-fuse [dkg@dkg.debianer.eu.org] has joined #rocklinux
01:14 < con-fuse> hej!
01:15 < capchaos> hi con-fuse
01:15 < con-fuse> I'm new to rock and think about downloading it.
01:15 < capchaos> TrAns13nT, what rest of the sources?
01:15 < capchaos> con-fuse, go ahead
01:15 < con-fuse> how is the packetmanagement solved in rock?
01:15 < TrAns13nT> like the srouce tarballs I have for x, gtk, fluxbox, figlet, irssi, etc....
01:16 < TrAns13nT> con-fuse u find out lemme know ;-)
01:16 < con-fuse> I'm very familar with debian and on the way to be a debian developer. So I'm not a linux newbie :)
01:16 < con-fuse> TrAns13nT: wtf, lemme?
01:16 < capchaos> con-fuse, ROCK is different from Debian
01:17 < TrAns13nT> lemme == lazy girl type for let me
01:17 < con-fuse> aren't there binaries?
01:17 < con-fuse> do I've to compile all packages?
01:17 < capchaos> con-fuse, it is almost completely source based
01:18 < capchaos> con-fuse, you got the idea ;)
01:18 < necronomicon> You could install from some inofficial ISOs with pre-compiled software
01:18 < con-fuse> capchaos: which idea?
01:18 < rxr> necronomicon: why inofficial ?
01:18 < daja77> rxr: nope an old imac ;)
01:18 < con-fuse> how much developers are working on rocklinux?
01:18 < con-fuse> and how much packages are there avaiable?
01:19 < con-fuse> how is the bugtracking system?
01:19 < A-Tui> con-fuse: are you from the CIA?
01:19 < necronomicon> rxr: "Please keep in mind that this iso images are not official ROCK Linux ISO images since the ROCK Linux Project does only provide the sources - no pre-built binaries."; http://www.rocklinux.de/getting.html
01:19 < capchaos> *g
01:19 < A-Tui> too many questions in less time!
01:19 < necronomicon> typo there
01:20 < con-fuse> A-Tui: can you answer some of these?
01:20 < rxr> necronomicon: hm - this text needs to be modified ...
01:20 < A-Tui> con-fuse: packages are listed in rock site
01:20 < A-Tui> and maintaners too
01:20 < capchaos> con-fuse, <URL:http://www.rocklinux.de/packages/>
01:21 < A-Tui> and there is a mail list (bug reporting there)
01:21 < con-fuse> ok, I'll have a look.
01:21 < con-fuse> hrm.. I think I will come back later, when rocklinux is adult.
01:21 < daja77> con-fuse: :P
01:22 < con-fuse> do I have to count the packages at URL:http://www.rocklinux.de/packages/ now?
01:23 < TrAns13nT> con-fuse no such thing as adult, they all grow from infantcy to infancty on a daily basis
01:23 < rxr> con-fuse: maybe you should become adult and inform about the quality of an product anywhere but not on IRC ... *g*
01:23 * daja77 don't like debian guys
01:23 * rxr neither
01:23 < con-fuse> rxr: the homepage is too less verbose for me.
01:23 < con-fuse> :-)
01:23 < A-Tui> con-fuse: then try it!
01:24 * TrAns13nT thinks 99% debian users are zealots
01:24 < rxr> 707
01:24 < daja77> TrAns13nT: ack
01:24 < rxr> rene:~/develop/rock/rock-src-1.7-rxr/package$ find -name *.desc | wc -l
01:24 < A-Tui> what's zealot?
01:24 < rxr>     707
01:24 < con-fuse> zealot in what?
01:24 < con-fuse> who is the founder of rocklinux?
01:24 < con-fuse> is he in this channel?
01:25 < daja77> clifford, nope
01:25 < con-fuse> but, he is austrian like me. :)
01:25 < TrAns13nT> my deffinition of zealot is someone that is immune to new ideas and ways to the point of verbal abuse when deffending their thoughts
01:25 < con-fuse> now localy its 01:25 I'll fetch some sleep.
01:25 < con-fuse> bye, *
01:25 < rxr> rene:~/develop/rock/rock-src-1.7-rxr/package$ find -name *.desc | wc -l
01:25 < rxr>     707
01:25 < rxr> rene:~/develop/rock/rock-src-1.7-rxr/package$ find -name *.desc | wc -l
01:25 < rxr>     707
01:25 < rxr> arggh
01:25 < rxr> sorry
01:25 < A-Tui> TrAns13nT: i know then :)
01:25 < con-fuse> rxr: ok, thanks.
01:26 < TrAns13nT> I also don't understands debians reluctanct to move past i386 code
01:26 < TrAns13nT> *reluctance
01:26 < TrAns13nT> it's old and extremely slow
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01:26 < necronomicon> They want to keep binary compatibility
01:27 < TrAns13nT> I've never had a single problem with a single -march=athlon-xp compiled binary
01:27 < TrAns13nT> they can at least move to -mcpu=i586
01:27 < necronomicon> Meanwhile, in IRCnet's #linuxger: <con-fuse> lustige Typen, die rocklinuxer :)
01:27 < TrAns13nT> or i486 for that matter
01:28 < daja77> necronomicon: yeah, we flame debian people here
01:28 < necronomicon> Why?
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01:29 < daja77> because it is fun to do so :P
01:29 < TrAns13nT> I didn't me to flame anyhing except the distro, just going on my own expierence
01:29 < TrAns13nT> s/me/mean
01:29 < daja77> TrAns13nT: yeah flame the distro, and I flame them :)
01:31 < daja77> gn8 you all
01:31 < A-Tui> bye daja77, good night
01:31 < TrAns13nT> swee z's
01:31 < TrAns13nT> +t
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01:38 < TrAns13nT> whats the rules on spam?
01:38 < TrAns13nT> ok as long as it's not for dinner?
01:38 < bluefire> good night
01:39 < capchaos> gnu8 bluefire
01:39 < TrAns13nT> sweet z's
01:39 < TrAns13nT> dream green dreams
01:39 < A-Tui> bye, buenas noches
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01:39 < TrAns13nT> que hora es?
01:40 < A-Tui> vie abr 18 01:39:25 CEST 2003 :)
01:40 < TrAns13nT> thats all I know
01:40 < TrAns13nT> except
01:40 < TrAns13nT> me es mucho loco en lacabesa
01:40 < A-Tui> mmmm that's not correct
01:40 < A-Tui> what do you want to say?
01:41 < TrAns13nT> i'm very crazy in the head
01:41 < A-Tui> ok, that's a literal translation and have not sense in spain
01:41 < TrAns13nT> i'm a lunatic
01:41 < TrAns13nT> ;-)
01:41 < A-Tui> you could say: "Estoy mal de la cabeza"
01:41 < A-Tui> or something like that
01:42 * TrAns13nT is phsycotic
01:42 < TrAns13nT> ;-)
01:42 < A-Tui> hehe some maddnes is needed sometimes :)
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01:48 < TrAns13nT> madness is always good
01:49 < capchaos> No excellent soul is exempt from a mixture of madness.
01:49 < capchaos>                 -- Aristotle
01:49 < TrAns13nT> nice
01:49 < A-Tui> yes, good
01:49 < TrAns13nT> wise man that Aristotle
01:49 < TrAns13nT> italians usually are ;-)
01:50 < TrAns13nT> or was aristotle greek?
01:50 < capchaos> Italians?!
01:50 < A-Tui> greek
01:50 < A-Tui> XD
01:50 < tfing> he was greek ....
01:50 < capchaos> Hehe greek of course ;-)
01:50 < TrAns13nT> close enough, tehy were neighbors, the romans rubbed off on em ;-)
01:50 < A-Tui> that's true :)
01:51 * TrAns13nT could trace the family back to roman times prolly if I lived in Italy
01:52 < A-Tui> Romans had good parties :)
01:52 < TrAns13nT> yep
01:52 < TrAns13nT> drank lots of wine, just like todays strong italian families
01:52 * TrAns13nT is 1/4 italian
01:52 < A-Tui> wine is good!
01:53 < TrAns13nT> home made wine is better
01:53 < A-Tui> TrAns13nT: of course, here most of wine is home made :)
01:53 < TrAns13nT> i know ya lucky bum
01:53 < capchaos> non beva mentre guidano
01:54 < TrAns13nT> never said I knw any, except assino
01:54 < capchaos> = don't drink while driving hehe
01:54 < TrAns13nT> never
01:55 < A-Tui> well you can got drink at home
01:55 < TrAns13nT> have to get other ppl to buy it
01:55 < capchaos> la birra Ŕ il vostro amico
01:55 < capchaos> hehe
01:55 < A-Tui> :)
01:55 < capchaos> A-Tui, la cerveza es su amigo
01:56 < A-Tui> capchaos: si, lo es :)
01:56 < capchaos> :)
01:56 < A-Tui> capchaos: you use correctly the 'z', that's great
01:56 < TrAns13nT> I'm assuming the BUild-Target script is where all the actual work is going to be done?
01:57 < capchaos> TrAns13nT, read it and impress yourself :)
01:57 < TrAns13nT> i'll do my best, just learning to do bash, lemme come in here again, I'll show ya what I've done
01:58 < capchaos> TrAns13nT, nice
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01:59 < trans13n1> not to sure how well this script is gonna work since I'm in vmware
01:59 < trans13n1> but here goes
01:59 < trans13n1> spam alert (10-15 lines)
01:59 < trans13n1> Hostname     : cdimage
01:59 < trans13n1> Kernel       : 2.4.20-xfs_pre6
01:59 < trans13n1> CPU Type     : AMD Athlon(tm) XP
01:59 < trans13n1> L1 Cache     : 128 KB
01:59 < trans13n1> L2 Cache     : 256 KB
01:59 < trans13n1> Speed        : 1536.845 MHz
01:59 < trans13n1> BogoMips     : 3060.53
01:59 < trans13n1> eth0 ip      : 192.168.140.137
01:59 < trans13n1> eth0 In      : 56.5 Mb
01:59 < trans13n1> eth0 Out     : 1.7 Mb
01:59 < trans13n1> Uptime       : 5:01 hours
01:59 < trans13n1> Users        : 0
01:59 < trans13n1> Load         : 0.12 - 0.14 - 0.09
01:59 < trans13n1>              :    Total    Used   Free
02:00 < trans13n1> Memory       :    155 MB  23 MB   132 MB
02:00 < trans13n1> Swap         :    0 MB  0 MB  0 MB
02:00 < trans13n1> xdpyinfo:  unable to open display "".
02:00 < capchaos> trans13n1, please do not flood :-(
02:00 < trans13n1> xdpyinfo:  unable to open display "".
02:00 < trans13n1> XFree        : v
02:00 < trans13n1> Resolution   :
02:00 < trans13n1> nVidia Card  :
02:00 < trans13n1>         GPU  :
02:00 < trans13n1>         Mem  :
02:00 < trans13n1> too late now, sorry
02:00 < TrAns13nT> too late now, sorry
02:00 < TrAns13nT> I shoulda did one section at a time instead of the whole thing
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02:01 < capchaos> TrAns13nT, or join #flood :)
02:01 < TrAns13nT> 193 lines of nicely formatted bash
02:01 < TrAns13nT> with 2 comment lines, and a space between enach function
02:01 < TrAns13nT> *each
02:02 < TrAns13nT> i wrote one for mpg123 as well to start it, spam whats playing, and to change the volumes of dsp0 main and pcm
02:02 < TrAns13nT> oh, and I can change the track in mpg123
02:02 < A-Tui> checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot cr
02:02 < A-Tui> eate executables
02:02 < TrAns13nT> check your CFLAGS
02:02 < A-Tui> acl give me that error
02:03 < A-Tui> om TrAns13nT, i will do
02:03 < TrAns13nT> i only get that one with an unsupported compiler flag, or a typo in one
02:03 < TrAns13nT> btw, where do I define those at?
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02:04 < trans13n1> can u accept dcc?
02:04 < A-Tui> me?, i think yes
02:04 < capchaos> yes
02:05 < trans13n1> incoming
02:05 < trans13n1> i acn post online if nessecary
02:05 < trans13n1> *can
02:07 < capchaos> TrAns13nT, the compiler flags are defined in architecture/x86/gcc-options for i386
02:09 < TrAns13nT> http://pws.chartermi/net/~7r4n513n7/media.sh
02:09 < capchaos> thx
02:09 < TrAns13nT> oopsy
02:09 < TrAns13nT> http://pws.chartermi.net/~7r4n513n7/media.sh
02:10 < TrAns13nT> still ain't right, hmmmm
02:11 < TrAns13nT> http://pws.chartermi.net/~tr4n513nt/media.sh
02:11 < TrAns13nT> there, thats right
02:11 < capchaos> ok
02:11 < TrAns13nT> you'll need to change a fgew things, and make a couple directories
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02:12 < TrAns13nT> and fucntion kill doesn't work
02:12 < capchaos> Nice script
02:12 < TrAns13nT> but media -c 2x in a row will kill mpg123
02:13 < TrAns13nT> pretty much nust change line #9 and tell it where the mp3's are located, in my case ~/mp3 is full of symlinks to where I keep my mp3's
02:14 < TrAns13nT> and if you want less verbal outp from it just comment the echo lines
02:14 < TrAns13nT> *output
02:15 < TrAns13nT> i suppose since I'm distrubuting it now I should add a help function
02:15 < capchaos> maybe :)
02:24 < rxr> ok n8 - cu the next days
02:25 < capchaos> gnu8 rxr
02:25 < rxr> much fun celebrating easter
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02:26 < esden> hi all
02:27 < capchaos> moin esden
02:28 < esden> hi capchaos 
02:28 < TrAns13nT> is the download required script gonna dl every source ther is or what, I can't see how libpng is required to build a system
02:29 < esden> TrAns13nT: linux is not windows ;-) it also contains programs ;-)
02:29 < TrAns13nT> esden i know this, but I don't require Xfree at this time
02:30 < esden> yes but there are also console programs that require libpng like php for example that have nothing to do with X
02:30 < TrAns13nT> understood, but why is Download -required downloading X
02:32 < esden> because you have not unselected X in the configuration?
02:33 < TrAns13nT> i didn't see a package selection option when I ran Config
02:34 < TrAns13nT> oj well
02:34 < TrAns13nT> *oh
02:34 < esden> select : [*]    Show expert-only and experimental options
02:34 < esden> and then :  [*]    Custom package selection
02:35 < TrAns13nT> wahts the total size of sources I'm gonna end up downloaing if I let this keep running?
02:35 < TrAns13nT> I know I hit expert options, and 95% sure I hit custom package selection and it didn't do nothing
02:35 < esden> if you download -all then you get ... 1.7G
02:36 < esden> but building rock needs some more GB
02:36 < TrAns13nT> omg what have i done O_o
02:37 < TrAns13nT> no where under custom pacakge selection does it let me unselect packages
02:38 < TrAns13nT> I don't think I have the patience to wait on 1.7gb's of source to dl
02:38 < TrAns13nT> not when I've only dl'd 115mb's so far in like an hour and a half
02:39 < TrAns13nT> so how do i work this ncurse that I can't manage to figure out obviosly to unselect lost of this stuff
02:39 < esden> understandable ... I always start a download and go sleeping or visit friends ;-)
02:39 < A-Tui> bye guys, cu tomorrow
02:39 < capchaos> gnu8 A-Tui
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02:39 < TrAns13nT> too early to sleep and theres 2 inches of ice outside and my three wheeler has a flat
02:40 < TrAns13nT> under custom select it has ....
02:40 < TrAns13nT> -----     Use "X <pattern>" to enable
02:40 < TrAns13nT> -----     Use "O <pattern>" to disable
02:40 < TrAns13nT> -----     Use "- <pattern>" to remove
02:41 < TrAns13nT> '-----< Package selction rules>---'
02:41 < TrAns13nT> | 001: <new line>
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02:41 < TrAns13nT> '-----------------'
02:41 < _HulK_> hi all
02:41 < TrAns13nT> shjow package list
02:41 < _HulK_> anyone knows about wireless?
02:43 < TrAns13nT> io don't see where in that where I get to do package selection
02:43 < TrAns13nT> s/io/i
02:43 < TrAns13nT> not me said the flea
02:44 < esden> hi _HulK_ 
02:46 < esden> TrAns13nT: go on the add new line and insert "- *x11*
02:46 < esden> "
02:46 < esden> that should help ;-)
02:46 < _HulK_> hi esden
02:47 < TrAns13nT> i thought i read someone on the webpage that rock is about everyhtign off by default?
02:47 < TrAns13nT> s/someonesomewhere
02:47 < esden> you can unselect other packages/categories in the same way
02:47 < TrAns13nT> shouldn't the user have to add the packages they want, instead of removing the ones they don't wonat?
02:47 < esden> yes it is off by default ... it means that only the very nessesery things are being started when you have installed a system and boot it for the first time
02:48 < TrAns13nT> cause adding would be alot shorter list then removing
02:48 < TrAns13nT> oh, so just services, ok
02:48 < TrAns13nT> well, i suppose I'll let it finsih dl'ing this X source then I'll kill it and try to figure this out
02:49 < esden> TrAns13nT: you selected the generic target and that is a target containing nearly everything ... there is no minimal target till now ... if you want you can create such one ... but we do not have the manpower till now to create such one ...
02:49 < TrAns13nT> ok, let me ask u this
02:49 < esden> TrAns13nT: most of us want to compile everything
02:49 < TrAns13nT> does it read a file to get the list of packages for each target?
02:50 < TrAns13nT> I plan oon compiling everyhting I use
02:50 < TrAns13nT> but I don't use everyhting
02:50 < TrAns13nT> cause if it reads a file I can get one typed up for the minimum spackages required to have a working running rock system
02:51 < esden> it is listing the package subdirectory to figure out which packages are there and adds them to the list ... in the targets there are scripts that can select and unselect the packages
02:51 < TrAns13nT> I'd be more then willing to donate my thumb tiwddlin time to somewhere
02:52 < esden> see target/router/config.in and target/router/pkgsel.sh
02:53 < esden> if you ask me it is nicer to use algorithms to (un)select packages then using fixed file lists
02:53 < esden> but I think that there is still a lot to do in the configuration area ... like storing package lists in a specified file 
02:54 < TrAns13nT> see i myself thinks it easier to say ok, for this target, we need this this and this, and only this this and this ever
02:54 < esden> or (un)selecting packages in a list and not using regular expressions
02:54 < esden> but there are more importaint issues to be solved currently then that
02:54 < TrAns13nT> i can understand that
02:55 < TrAns13nT> let me cahnge my target, probably to desktop, and I'll see what I can do on makeing files for a minimal target
02:55 < esden> I always compile all packages because it is easier to select desired packages while installing the system from the cd's then compiling them lateron because I forgot them
02:56 < esden> and the cds that I have compiled are also usable for other people 
02:56 < TrAns13nT> if I had the cd's and didn't have to wait on all the sources to dl at once I'd go ahead and compile it all at once to and be done with it
02:57 < esden> and for more systems ... then cd's that contain only a subset of avalable packages
02:57 < TrAns13nT> well, when I say minmal i mean just enough to remove the cd and reboot and be able to work
02:57 < TrAns13nT> *minimum
02:58 < esden> that selection is different for everyone ... some think that x is needed for a minimal working system ... others say that it is not needed, some say that emacs is nessesary for a minimal system others say that vi is only nessesary for a minimal system ...
02:58 < esden> you understand what I mean?
03:00 < esden> that is a problem with a minimal system :-/
03:00 < TrAns13nT> ok, maybe the target should be called dommandline then
03:01 < esden> perhups a subsection for the generic target would be nice containing multiple package preselections or so
03:01 < TrAns13nT> just enough to get to the commandline and login and have a fucntional rock system
03:01 < TrAns13nT> *target called commandline
03:01 < esden> or a target called quick-test 
03:01 < TrAns13nT> I like to build my sytems from the ground up, X is one of the very alst things i Install in linux
03:02 < esden> for people that want to take a quick glance at rock 
03:02 < TrAns13nT> only things after i install after X are winex, and gui version of some console apps
03:02 < TrAns13nT> i think commandline would be better, cause what if someone like building systems one or two packlages at a time
03:03 < TrAns13nT> but I'm not a dev, that would be up to whoever to decide what it's called
03:04 < TrAns13nT> so just in the ballpark, how much source is gonna be dl'ed if I select the desktop target
03:04 < esden> so write an email to the rock-linux malininglist about that
03:05 < esden> TrAns13nT: not much less then in the generic ... the desktop target contains all the X stuff so it is big
03:05 < TrAns13nT> can files be attached to the posts in mailing lists
03:05 < esden> yes
03:06 < esden> but try not to write 100kb mails ... 
03:06 < esden> ;-)
03:06 < TrAns13nT> would the boot - install- one contain much less
03:07 < TrAns13nT> i was thinking I'd post a tarball of the file a commandline target would need to cantain, but I'll just put a link to my ispd's webserver to the tarball and make them carry the load for now
03:07 < TrAns13nT> -d
03:08 < esden> yes it would but this are only boot disks ...
03:09 < TrAns13nT> not enough in that one to be able to reboot when it's all done and add packaes later?
03:09 < esden> nope sadly not
03:11 < esden> that is what would be needed ... a minimal (as you already said) target that is containing enough to install a system that is booting with network support in which you can build packages that you need afterwords
03:11 < TrAns13nT> well, i guess I'll leave it on desktop and just run Download -required for a few hours each day till it gets all the sources
03:12 < TrAns13nT> but I'll start work on the mimimal target next time i boot into linux
03:12 < TrAns13nT> it'll gimme somehting productive to do and gimme a break from my sysInfo script
03:13 < esden> TrAns13nT: very nice to hear that ;-)
03:14 < TrAns13nT> i'm very intriguied on rock's bash package management system and want to see it work, I've been using gentoo and toying around with linux from scratch, and if I ever get that right I was gonna try and write a package mangemt system like portage but in bash
03:15 < esden> rocklinux is also usable in the way portage works
03:15 < esden> but it is more ... it is also a distribution buld kit
03:15 < TrAns13nT> any source based distro would almost have to have similarities in the package management
03:16 < TrAns13nT> i've noticed the iso building stuff from poking round on the website and watching here
03:16 < TrAns13nT> gentoo has this gamecd that is just the greatest thing since sliced bread imo
03:16 < esden> that is where rock started ... automated building of installation iso's 
03:17 < esden> yes that is a very nice thing
03:17 < TrAns13nT> u burn it, boot it, type startx, and it puts u straight into unreal tournament with working networking, accelerated graphics (nvidia only), and sound
03:17 < TrAns13nT> *ut 2k3 demo
03:18 < esden> we now have two people that are working on adding games to rock package set ... perhups some time someone will sit down and create a live cd target and a gamecd target
03:18 < esden> all that is not difficult to create using rock
03:18 < TrAns13nT> livecd's are great, since gentoo started using them I can install it on my p133, b4 they used ramdisks that where to large
03:19 < TrAns13nT> and I like the live cd's also cause you can give one to someone and they can go right into sseeing how linux works and can play around without having to install
03:20 < esden> there are also people that are thinking about creating a knoppix like target in rocklinux
03:20 < TrAns13nT> linux ain't for everyone, but it should be made easy enough so that everyone can make that decision for themselves
03:20 < TrAns13nT> i don't know what knoppix is
03:21 < esden> rock is so powerfull that it can contain nearly every kind of distribution ... but someone has to sit down and create them ;-)
03:21 < esden> http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html
03:24 < TrAns13nT> i might just ahve to take the time to dl an iso of that
03:25 < esden> it is a very nice linux demo cd ... but also usable for other thing
03:25 < esden> s
03:25 < TrAns13nT> i'd like to see how it runs on my p133 with 32mb ram
03:26 < esden> ohh ... I think it will run veeery sloooow ;-)
03:26 < esden> IF it will run ;-)
03:26 < TrAns13nT> i put mdk 9.1, X-4.3, and kde 3.1 on it for shits and giggles
03:26 < TrAns13nT> it compiles with the ebst of them, don't be insulting my old reliable ;-)
03:27 < TrAns13nT> only machine I've ever owned thats hasn't died, fried, or killed hardware
03:28 < TrAns13nT> only takes it an hour to build a 800k kernel ;-)
03:28 < TrAns13nT> and 20.5 hours to compile X-4.3, glide drivers, and xft
03:29 < TrAns13nT> so is everyone in here on the other side of the plaent or what?
03:29 < capchaos> TrAns13nT, booting a Debian on a machine with 16M edo ram is great fun too ;)
03:29 < TrAns13nT> i'm lucky, i got sd
03:30 < TrAns13nT> 64 meg limit, i coulda got the edo version with the 128mb limit, but I exchanged size for speed
03:31 * TrAns13nT should start calling pc66 sdram edo-ddr
03:31 < TrAns13nT> O_o
03:33 < TrAns13nT> well, I think DOD is calling me, I'll bbl
03:33 < TrAns13nT> *DoD
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03:33 < esden> gamer ;-)
03:34 * -> esden sucking knoppix ;-)
03:34 < esden> nice 800K/s
03:34 < capchaos> heh protzer
03:35 < capchaos> ;P
03:35 < esden> leo org server is quasi in my local net so ...
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03:55 < capchaos> hi demian !
03:55 < demian> hello guys
04:02 < esden> hi demian 
04:03 < demian> have u guys works with serial port in asm ?
04:03 < demian> s/works/worked
04:04 < capchaos> no
04:05 < demian> :(
04:07 < capchaos> only had some theory... can't recall anything
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04:37 < capchaos> morning n00kie
04:54 < n00kie> Good morning cappy :)
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05:45 < TrAns13nT> anyone care to see my image editing skillz?
05:46 < TrAns13nT> http://pws.chartermi.net/~tr4ns13nt/Isis-Matrix.jpg
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09:02 < TrAns13nT> if anyone cares, I'll never be returning to this server, I've registered #rocklinux on irc.oftc.net, if any memeber of the dev team for rock would like the channel over there, I'd be more then ahppy to release it to you so that I can and further the rock linux distrobution, if not, then thats fine to
09:02 < TrAns13nT> -and
09:03 < TrAns13nT> and if not, then good luck with your distro
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09:15 < Caspar_> ? what was this ...
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09:35 < dadark> hey, one little question, isn't there a installation howto with rocklinux?
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10:37 < ringo78> hey cappy!
10:37 < capchaos> hey ringo78! :)
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10:41 < capchaos> morning n00kie
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10:49 < capchaos> ringo78, today is federal holiday.. so me can have inet without charge
10:49 < capchaos> :-)
10:49 < capchaos> *argh* wrong chan
10:50 < ringo78> no probs here !
10:51 < capchaos> :)
10:56 < blindcoder> moin moin
10:58 < capchaos> moin  blindy
11:01 < blindcoder> oh that reminds me... I have to place an order on thinkgeek or esden will kill me
11:11 < snyke> :o)
11:11 < snyke> he won't kill you
11:11 < snyke> just kick you
11:11 < snyke> much more fun than killing :o)
11:13 < blindcoder> GAH!
11:13 < blindcoder> peoople are so stupid >_<
11:14 < blindcoder> but what do I expect from a world where there are Usage-Instruction on toothpick-packages >_<
11:19 < capchaos> "Please don't kill anyone with this toothpicks."
11:19 < blindcoder> something like that
11:19 < blindcoder> maybe I should really do what the Hitchhiker proposes
11:19 < capchaos> blindcoder, what happened?
11:20 < blindcoder> just becoming insane :)
11:20 < blindcoder> read this: http://www.crash-override.net/lpp.php
11:20 < blindcoder> and then guess what happens on a regular basis
11:23 < capchaos> spam spam spam
11:23 < blindcoder> no.
11:23 < capchaos> What else?
11:23 < blindcoder> "Why doesn't it work here?" "Where can I find images?" "It doesn't apply to V2.5.xx"
11:24 < capchaos> yeah spam -> unwanted mail :-)
11:24 < blindcoder> "I only get a Framebuffer with a Tux on it." "What is a Framebuffer?"
11:25 < capchaos> Don't disappoint your lusers ;)
11:25 < blindcoder> okay, if you define it like that... For me it's just another proof that the human race is a) not as intelligent b) not as superior and c) not as advanced as it likes to think
11:25 < capchaos> ack
11:25 < blindcoder> I won't disappoint them. The site states that I won't answer mail and so I won't
11:31 < n00kie> morning again, capchaos :)
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11:33 < A-Tui> hi
11:33 * blindcoder taking shower
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11:39 < A-Tui> there is any problemhaving ./downloads on another partition┐
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12:11 < blindcoder> hmm... acl and attr still have some issues
12:13 < ringo78> A-Tui: mount it there ?
12:14 < A-Tui> yes ringo78
12:15 < A-Tui> i'm having serious problems with disk space
12:15 < A-Tui> so i try to put downloads on other partition
12:15 < A-Tui> but now, i have problems building enveiroment to build each package
12:16 < capchaos> A-Tui, why not move the whole rock-1.7 tree to that partition?
12:17 < A-Tui> capchaos: each partition alone could not keep all the building
12:20 < capchaos> ./scripts/Help Create-Links
12:20 < capchaos> @ A-Tui
12:20 < A-Tui> capchaos: i'm looking at here, thanks
12:20 < capchaos> You're welcome
12:22 < A-Tui> Problems is with building links, i supposed that he can't find tar file in the src tree
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12:48 < blindcoder> os/me gives up compiling current CVS again
12:49 < capchaos> blindcoder, why that?
12:50 < blindcoder> sed fails in stage 1 because of 'previous declaration of `geline`'
12:50 < blindcoder> sed fails in stage 1 because of 'previous declaration of `getline`'
12:51 < blindcoder> before that acl failed because I need attr on the HOST-system in Stage 1
12:51 < blindcoder> and in the middle coreutils failed because the autoconf/automake on the HOST-system was too old
12:52 < capchaos> uuugh
12:52 < blindcoder> yes
12:52 * blindcoder slowly gets disappointed by clifford/rene
12:54 < blindcoder> the update to coreutils at all made my personal cp/mv/dd patches not apply, but that isn't cliff's fault
12:55 < blindcoder> okay, I'm now off to roller skating
12:55 < blindcoder> bye!
12:56 < capchaos> have fun!
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14:12 < necronomicon> re
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14:23 < A-Tui> bye
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15:56 < necronomicon> Compilation of net-tools on 1.7 in stage 1 fails ... 1-net-tools.err says:
15:56 < necronomicon> Found shared files with other packages:
15:56 < necronomicon> usr/share/man/man1/hostname.1: coreutils net-tools
15:56 < necronomicon> --- BUILD ERROR ---
15:56 < necronomicon> Both coreutils and net-tools seem to install a hostname-manpage -- is the content the same?
15:58 < blindcoder> disregard that
15:58 < blindcoder> it's juts a warning, not an error
15:58 < necronomicon> Ok
15:58 < blindcoder> the package last-installed has simply won.
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16:17 < necronomicon> In which directory are the binary packages put?
16:17 < necronomicon>  /build/default-1.7-snapshot-x86-pentium3-cross-desktop-expert/pkgs ?
16:17 < necronomicon> There are *.gem-files
16:18 < blindcoder> which are the binary packages that will be written to CD=
16:18 < necronomicon> I wanted to do a "direct installation"
16:18 < necronomicon> As described in the Rock Linux Guide
16:19 < necronomicon> http://www.rocklinux.de/people/pjotr/guide.download/html/main.html#install.direct
16:21 < blindcoder> just substitute tar xzvf with `mine -i -v -R /path/to/target < listofgems >`
16:21 < blindcoder> you can also check "Bulid .tar.bz2 Packages" and use tar if you want
16:22 < necronomicon> Ok
16:22 < necronomicon> I have another question ...
16:23 < necronomicon> Now that I built the build system, what's next? chroot into that?
16:24 < necronomicon> I have been in stage 1 and 2 so far
16:24 < blindcoder> erm... scripts/Build-Target should do this for you...
16:25 < necronomicon> it said it has created isofs.txt or so
16:25 < blindcoder> Stage 0 through 3 are building the build-environment, Stage 5 Builds everything else and Stage 9 biulds everything againg plus the binary packages
16:25 < blindcoder> oh
16:25 < blindcoder> so you checked "Cross-Compile" didn't you?
16:25 < necronomicon> yes
16:26 < blindcoder> what system are you cross-compiling for?
16:26 < necronomicon> for exactly this
16:26 < blindcoder> erm...
16:26 < necronomicon> ok
16:26 < blindcoder> you are cross-compiling for the machine you are building on?
16:26 < necronomicon> yes
16:26 < blindcoder> You don't need to do that
16:27 < blindcoder> just uncheck Cross-Compiling and check "Use ' (Pseudo-)Cross-Compiler9"
16:27 < necronomicon> ok
16:27 < blindcoder> "Use (Pleudo-)Cross-Compiler"
16:27 < blindcoder> ARGH
16:27 < blindcoder> you get the idea >_<
16:27 < necronomicon> and then stage 3 will automatically come?
16:28 < blindcoder> no, then the Build will continue all the way to Stage 9
16:28 < necronomicon> ok
16:28 < blindcoder> The cross-compiling option is meant if you compile for eg. Sparc on a x86 System
16:28 < blindcoder> then you can transfer the build to the Sparc-Machine and start a complete build there
16:29 < blindcoder> it's primarily meant for porting ROCK
16:29 < necronomicon> ok
16:30 < necronomicon> so I just reconfig that and then run ./scripts/Build-Target?
16:31 < blindcoder> if your machine is fast enough you should also consider ./scripts/Cleanup -full to completely start over.
16:32 < blindcoder> but if it's slower than... say 1GHz you should just continue (or if you have too much time on your hands, start over anyways :)
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16:33 < necronomicon> got enough time anyway ;)
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16:55 < n00kie> re
17:17 < capchaos> esden, < tsa> Cksum ERROR: download/esden/povray35/povuni_s-3.5.tgz.cksum-err (2438530522)  <- is this fixed yet?
17:25 < capchaos> or is the mirror leo.org not updated with the new package?
17:26 * capchaos grumbles
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17:40 < rolla> re
17:40 < capchaos> hi rolla
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18:27 < A-Tui> hi
18:27 < esden> hi all
18:27 < esden> hi A-Tui 
18:28 < A-Tui> eih hi esden!
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19:44 < necronomicon> Nearly everything in stage 1 of the dietlibc build fails. For example, bash: checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
19:44 < necronomicon> How can I fix that?
19:46 < rxr> necronomicon: do you have "pseudo cross compiler enabled" ?
19:46 < necronomicon> Yes, I do
19:46 < necronomicon> I have checked the dynamically-link option, too
19:47 < rxr> hm - you would need to take an exact look why it is failing ...
19:47 < rxr> (in the log file ...)
19:47 < necronomicon> 1-binutils.err says: CMD_WRAPPER: Can't execute 'diet-dyn' -> abort.
19:47 < necronomicon> CMD_WRAPPER: Can't execute 'diet-dyn' -> abort.
19:47 < necronomicon> *** The command 'i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc-3 -o conftest -g   conftest.c' failed.
19:47 < necronomicon> *** You must set the environment variable CC to a working compiler.
19:47 < necronomicon> --- BUILD ERROR ---
19:48 < rxr> err
19:48 < rxr> which target? generic/desktop or install disc?
19:49 < necronomicon> dietlibc minimal
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19:49 < necronomicon> Would linking gcc3 to i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc-3 solve the problem?
19:50 < rxr> hm - no this is a dietlibc problem
19:50 < rxr> ask esden - or the ML
19:50 < rxr> (me out of time)
19:51 < esden> necronomicon: not diet-dy
19:51 < esden> n
19:51 < esden> that will not work
19:51 < necronomicon> ?
19:51 < necronomicon> ok
19:51 < esden> and coreutils will still fail
19:51 < necronomicon> The Guide should be more precise concerning that
19:51 < esden> and in the stage2 it will fail too
19:52 < necronomicon> So using dietlibc is not a good idea?
19:52 < esden> so if you are not willing to work on that target you can stop compiling ...
19:52 < esden> nope it is not a good idea if you are a normal user
19:52 < necronomicon> i'll use generic then
19:54 < esden> k
20:29 < esden> ok ... gallery request sent
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21:20 < A-Tui> bye bye all
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22:17 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
22:18 < blindcoder> damn... now I have to get rid of the "woman"-scent in my car or face questions from my parents on monday :)
22:19 < capchaos> Muahhar
22:19 < capchaos> blindcoder, aren't you allowed to meet women? ;-)
22:20 < blindcoder> no, but the questions might get on my nerves ;)
22:20 < blindcoder> besides, there's nothing between owl and me :)
22:21 < capchaos> Heh
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23:33 < esden> re
23:34 < esden> blindcoder: ping
23:35 < blindcoder> esden: pong
23:42 < esden> blindcoder: what women?
23:42 < blindcoder> esden: woman. singular. and like I said, owl.
23:42 < esden> and why a scent? was she using noo much perfume?
23:42 < esden> aha ...
23:42 < blindcoder> esden: you don't know how my parents notice even the smallest things :)
23:43 < esden> hmm hmm
23:43 < esden> blindcoder + owl ... 
23:43 < esden> no I stop it before you get upset ...
23:43 < blindcoder> esden: *sigh* noooooooo
23:43 < blindcoder> I'm in... ah no, better not say it
23:43 * -> esden is quiet already
23:44 * capchaos laughs
23:44 < esden> what better not say ?
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23:44 < esden> you are "in... love" "involved already"
23:44 < necronomicon> re
23:44 < blindcoder> I just wanted to say that 'm in too good a mood to get upset that easily until I noticed how this could get used against me again :)
23:45 < esden> hi necronomicon 
23:45 < blindcoder> esden: you like living dangerously, don't you?
23:45 < esden> blindcoder: aha ... ok ... very nice to hear that you aer in a good mood
23:45 < necronomicon> hi esden
23:45 < esden> blindcoder: you know me ;-)
23:45 < blindcoder> esden: or can it be... you want to tease me?
23:46 * -> esden tease you ? NEVER! ;-)
23:46 < blindcoder> esden: okay, so I don't have to tease you... but I can tickle you... WITH A STUN-GUN!!
23:46 * blindcoder attacks
23:46 * -> esden runs away
23:46 < esden> and hides his head in the sand
23:47 < blindcoder> COME BACK AND FIGHT, COWARD!
23:47 < esden> (now I am cloaked)
23:47 * blindcoder swings Stun Gun!
23:47 * -> esden is a coward ... *admit*
23:47 * blindcoder takes out a sheet of paper and a pencil to calculate esdens position based on speed and direction...
23:47 * -> esden gets dietlibc and recompiles blindcoder with it ;-)
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23:48 < _NULL> no tcr here... well. hi
23:48 < capchaos> *mauahr*
23:48 < blindcoder> diet: too much fat to compile blindcoder...
23:48 < esden> re _NULL ;-)
23:48 < blindcoder> okay... THERE HE IS!!!
23:48 < esden> it is optimizing it out no problem
23:48 * blindcoder throws Annoyance-Bombs at esdens ass
23:49 * -> esden 's ass starts barking 
23:49 < blindcoder> re nully :)
23:49 < blindcoder> urks... stench attack...
23:49 * blindcoder is paralyzed
23:49 * blindcoder is also poisoned
23:49 < esden> rofl
23:49 * blindcoder plays too many RPGs
23:49 < esden> seems so ;-)
23:50 < blindcoder> ah well, I'm out of Anime to watch now
23:50 < esden> argh ... blindcoder I want anime!!!
23:50 * blindcoder thinks about going to bed and reading "Einmal Rupert und zurueck"
23:50 < blindcoder> esden: I have CCS up to Ep 62 now :)
23:50 < blindcoder> only 8 Eps missing to completion ;D
23:51 < esden> grrr !!! give it to me!!!
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23:52 < blindcoder> "The Lord of Fire"
23:52 < blindcoder> "GIVE IT TO ME"
23:52 < blindcoder> "The Lord of Fire"
23:52 < blindcoder> "don't TAKE IT FROM ME"
23:52 < esden> o_O
23:52 < blindcoder> just a song I recorded from aniverse radio
23:53 * -> esden eating "knoblauch brot"
23:53 * blindcoder drinking water
23:53 < _NULL> wuah. don't kill us esden - please!
23:53 < blindcoder> it's titled "Ultra-Ghost in the Shell Tehem" but I doubt that's correct
23:54 * -> esden blowing some garlic air in #rocklinux 
23:54 * _NULL running away
23:54 < blindcoder> Tehem? erm... Theme even...
23:54 < esden> sounds nice
23:54 < blindcoder> esden: 2x 1280x1024 on 1 card and both OpenGL-HW-Accelerated :D
23:54 < rxr> re
23:55 < blindcoder> hi rxr
23:55 < esden> re rxr 
23:55 < rxr> hi esden
23:55 < _NULL> hi rxr
23:55 < esden> blindcoder: when I start my x ... it says that it can not start glx when xinerama is loaded
23:56 < blindcoder> esden: if it's two different cards then it might very well be
23:56 < blindcoder> I have no GLX with 2 cards eitherl
23:56 < blindcoder> but now I have only one card that handles two moniters
23:56 < esden> no it is one card ... it is my g400
23:56 < blindcoder> hmm
23:56 < blindcoder> my GF4 is taking care of both cards in the driver, not in XFree itself
23:57 < esden> o_O
23:57 < blindcoder> nvidia-driver
23:57 < esden> your GF4 can handle two monitors?
23:58 < blindcoder> yes
23:58 < esden> ok ... now I understand
23:58 < blindcoder> one VGO, one TV-OUT and one DVI-Out with Adapter to VGA
23:59 < blindcoder> s/VGO/VGA/
23:59 < blindcoder> so two VGAs
23:59 < esden> it seems that I need a new gfx-card
23:59 < blindcoder> :)
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