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--- Log opened Sat Apr 19 00:00:02 2003
--- Day changed Sat Apr 19 2003
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00:00 < blindcoder> my system should now be fine for about 2 years
00:00 * blindcoder poser
00:00 < esden> but more importaint then the gfx card is a new mainboard/ram/processor's
00:00 < esden> I need a faster system
00:00 < blindcoder> esden: P4 1.8 GHz and 512MB RamBUS
00:01 < blindcoder> maybe I could stock up the RAM to 1 GB
00:01 < esden> 2xAthlon XP 2GHZ would be a nice thing
00:01 < blindcoder> esden: get real
00:01 < necronomicon> The faster your computer is, the smaller your penis is!
00:01 < esden> sigh ... I know
00:01 < blindcoder> esden: neither you nor I can really afford that thing, can we?
00:01 < necronomicon> Quote by some idiot.
00:01 < necronomicon> ;>
00:01 < esden> necronomicon: nope ... it is the contrary ... 
00:02 < blindcoder> necronomicon: maybe he must know :) did you ask about his processor? :)
00:02 < necronomicon> *G*
00:02 * -> esden searching his penis length mesuremant script
00:02 < blindcoder> uh-oh... now it all comes out...
00:02 < blindcoder> I should run that one on my new baby at work
00:03 < blindcoder> 4x 2.0GHz XEON, 4 GB RAM...
00:03 < blindcoder> ah dammit... I should go to bed...
00:03 < esden> alpha:~$ ./schwanz.sh
00:03 < esden> 45.8cm
00:03 < esden> alpha:~$
00:04 < esden> echo `uptime|grep days|sed 's/.*up \([0-9]*\) day.*/\1\/10+/'; cat /proc/cpuinfo|grep MHz|awk '{print $4"/30 +";}'; free|grep '^Mem' |awk '{print $3"/1024/3+"}'; df -P -k -x nfs | grep -v 1k | awk '{if ($1 ~ "/dev/(scsi|sd)"){ s+= $2} s+= $2;} END {print s/1024/50"/15+70";}'`|bc|sed 's/\(.$\)/.\1cm/'
00:04 < blindcoder> ah, mom
00:04 < esden> ^^^^ the script
00:04 < blindcoder> 54.4cm
00:04 < blindcoder> MUAHAHAHA
00:04 < esden> blindcoder: poser !!!
00:04 * blindcoder whistles inncently
00:07 < esden> hmm ... work is waiting ... alpha port and dietlibc target
00:08 * blindcoder going to bed
00:08 < blindcoder> g'n8
00:08 < _NULL> gn8 blindy
00:08 < blindcoder> nicht nully
00:08 < blindcoder> oops
00:08 < blindcoder> night
00:08 < blindcoder> damn typos ._<
00:08 < blindcoder> ARGH
00:08 < blindcoder> I
00:08 < blindcoder> NEED
00:08 < blindcoder> SLEEP
00:08 < _NULL> *g*
00:09 < esden> good night blindcoder *hug*
00:09 * blindcoder squeezes esden
00:10 < esden> autsh ... that is the way I know you ;-)
00:11 < rxr> o cu
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00:26 < esden> rxr: what is the idea about CHANGELOG-CLIFFORD and CHANGELOG-RENE? Do you put all changes you do in CHANGELOG-RENE or only the changes that are in your responsability area and what goes beyond that goes to CHANGELOG-CLIFFORD?
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00:48 < _NULL> enough LFS for today. mv owl owl_sleeping. gn8
00:50 < capchaos> Sleep well, buho ;-)
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01:11 < esden> good netcat package created
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01:49 < necronomicon> Georg's connection seems to be broken
01:51 < esden> necronomicon: it seems so ... but it is normal that he comes and goes very often ...
01:57 < n00kie> Hello esden and necronomicon :)
01:58 < necronomicon> hi n00kie
01:58 < n00kie> 1184 * 856 or 1186 * 854?
01:59 < necronomicon> 1152*864
01:59 < n00kie> Ah
01:59 < n00kie> THank you :)
01:59 < necronomicon> np
02:00 < n00kie> restart x
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02:03 < necronomicon> did it work?
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03:03 < huebi> Moin
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03:26 < esden> moin
03:26 < esden> hi huebi 
03:30 < huebi> Moin esden
03:31 < esden> huebi: how are you and how is 1.6 feeling?
03:31 < esden> or are you too occupied for that?
03:31 < huebi> esden: Fine. I'm just testing how to update gcc and glibc in 1.6.0
03:32 < esden> why that?
03:32 < huebi> I think I must update gcc to 3.2.2 on the build system and then I can build glibc 2.3..
03:32 < huebi> faster binaries
03:33 < huebi> and gcc 3.x is needed for x86-64
03:33 < esden> you think that it is nessesary?
03:33 < esden> do you have one?
03:34 < huebi> gcc 3.x is needed for x86-64, definitly! - I'm on the issue to get one.
03:35 < esden> don't you think that bringin out stable is more importaint then such heavy changes?
03:35 < esden> or have you dropped the idea of stable?
03:36 < huebi> This are only a few package updates - To get some bootable CD images is the real problem
03:37 < esden> so why not invest time in that problem instead of updating packages? (only as a note I do not want to upset you or so ... I am only curious)
03:37 < huebi> most of the fixes for gcc and glibc are done in 1.7, so it's not a big problem to update them.
03:38 < huebi> esden: I apeciate your patches for the CD images :->>
03:38 < huebi> +r
03:39 < esden> excuse me but I will not invest time in 1.6 ...
03:39 < esden> but I think I will take an other look on it 
03:39 < esden> perhups I will change my mind ...
03:40 < huebi> I can only invest a limited amount of time in this annoying CD-Image issue.
03:42 < huebi> The idea of supporting i386 to i686 with only one boot image does not work.
03:42 < esden> that is why I would (in your place) not invest my time in backporting the new glibc and gcc to 1.6
03:43 < esden> why does it not work?
03:43 < huebi> I don't know. If I knew, it would have been fixed. I want to change the standard boot image to a huge ram disk
03:44 < huebi> Also automatic hardware "Erkennung" would be very nice.
03:45 < esden> but not really nessesary 
03:45 < esden> not nessesary for stabelizing 1.6
03:46 < huebi> For you and, it is not. But for not that skilled users, it is a must.
03:46 < huebi> +me
03:46 < huebi> 1.6 is stable since a long time. only bootable cd-images are missing
03:47 < esden> that is nessesary for stable 1.6
03:47 < esden> do it and release 1.6 stable
03:47 < huebi> ack
03:47 < esden> and then you can add stuff like hardwaredetection and update glibc/gcc
03:48 < huebi> 03:38 < huebi> esden: I apreciate your patches for the CD images :->>
03:48 < esden> not if you are going to update glibc/gcc what will break 1.6 for other several months
03:48 < huebi> what should it break?
03:49 < huebi> s/should/could
03:50 < esden> it will break 100% because it is a core stuff ...
03:50 < esden> invest your time where it is nessesary : CD images
03:50 < huebi> I mean whickh packages do fail then, which are not fixed in 1.7
03:51 < esden> porting that fixes also needs time ...
03:51 < esden> but do what you think is importaint ... I said what I think about it
03:52 < huebi> I apreciate your patches for the CD images
03:52 < esden> you are repeating yourself
03:53 < huebi> Yes, I still got no patches for the CDs from you :-)
03:53 < huebi> ...or somebody else
03:53 < esden> why from me ... you have time to do it but you are burning it doing unimportaint stuff ... like the update
03:55 < huebi> esden: The updates of the packages are easy and they should only need at the most 2 days. The cd images need more time. And I have still invested very much time in them. Why should I do all this stuff alone?
03:57 < esden> because of missmenagement you lost people that are willing to help you?
03:58 < huebi> esden: Explain yourself, please
04:00 < esden> most people that were willing to help you went away because you wanted to add new features to 1.6 instead of fixing stuff... and doing updates wehre it is not nessesary (nessesary updates are security updates not feature updates) ... 
04:01 < esden> I really appreciate that you documented the code ... but I really have to admit that it could be done in 1.6.1 and later 
04:01 < esden> that is also wrongly invested time at the moment it has been done
04:03 < esden> functionality had to be fixed first ... and that everything compiles and creates installable cd's ... then a stable release ... then you could document stuff ... and make minor updates and feature additions
04:03 < esden> that is how I see it ... perhups I am wrong ... if it is so please correct me
04:04 < esden> ok ... running ./scripts/Download in 1.6
04:06 < huebi> One point I think you're missing is, that there were many bugs in the scripts. The CD-imagesdepend on a working kernel, which supports all of the hardware. The kernel is now fixed but the CD-images are still a big problem
04:07 < huebi> The package updates were not a problem with only a few exceptions
04:08 < esden> if there were no updates then alse there would be no exceptions ...
04:08 < esden> yes the bugs had to be fixed that is correct
04:09 < huebi> autoconf/automake were one nessesary exception
04:10 < esden> nessesary?
04:10 < huebi> because of updates of buggy packaes which then needed a new autoconf version
04:10 < huebi> +g
04:12 < esden> that could be fixed with patches ... it is dirty but less time consuming ...
04:16 < esden> Downloading base-archive/dhcp/dhcp-3.0pl1.tar.bz2 ...
04:16 < esden> File not found, making a note of it.
04:18 < huebi> esden: It's updated here locally. there is an exploit in that old package.
04:19 < esden> kk
04:22 < huebi> esden: Do I need to compile glibc 2.3.2 with gcc 3.2.2?
04:24 < esden> do not know ... but I do not think so
04:24 < huebi> hmmm ... testing
04:25 < huebi> esden: Do you know how to fix that <Delete> does not work in the command line? It only prints a ~
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04:31 < esden> hmm ... it can be fixed with stty I think
04:32 < esden> I have "stty erase ^?" in my .bashrc
04:32 < esden> but ^? is really the backspace character
04:32 < esden> but I do not know if it will help you with your problem
04:32 < huebi> It's a common problem since 1.4.0
04:33 < huebi> afaik
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04:34 < [dd]holyolli> moin
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04:34 < huebi> moin holyolli
04:34 < holyolli> huebi!
04:34 < holyolli> *froi*
04:34 < huebi> :-))
04:34 < holyolli> moin
04:35 < holyolli> wie ist die lage?
04:35 < huebi> gut. und bei dir?
04:35 < holyolli> auch ganz gut. nen bisschen viel zu tun... :-/
04:35 < esden> hi holyolli 
04:35 < holyolli> hi esden
04:35 < huebi> holyolli: Bist du noch in USA?
04:35 < holyolli> huebi: ack.
04:36 < holyolli> .oO(for that late time in germany are still a lot of you awake.. ;-)
04:36 < holyolli> hier ist es grad mal 19:30
04:36 < huebi> 04:36 < holyolli> .oO(for that late time in germany are still a lot of you awake.. ;-)
04:36 < huebi> 9h - ganz schoen weit wech
04:37 < holyolli> jepp. das macht das telefonieren nicht gerade einfach ;)
04:37 < huebi> Wie lange bist du noch dort?
04:37 < holyolli> zu lange... bis ende juli
04:37 < huebi> uii
04:37 < holyolli> aber immerhin haben wir naechstes wochenende halbzeit
04:38 < holyolli> fuer die kurze zeit haben wir aber schon ne menge gelernt..
04:38 < huebi> Macht das Fliegen Spass? Ist es so, wie du dir vorgestellt hast?
04:39 < holyolli> huebi: spass macht es. aber ich hatte es mir schon anders vorgestellt. wir muessen die kleinen maschinen halt von anfang an wie airliner fliegen
04:39 < holyolli> und das ist ungewohnt
04:39 < holyolli> im moment kommen wir halt gut rum. machen jeden tag ueberlandfluege mit strecken so um 800km
04:40 < holyolli> gestern golf von californiern, montag las vegas, dienstag palm spings
04:40 < holyolli> =)
04:40 < huebi> *gg* du kennst jetzt bald auch jede Betonpiste...
04:41 < holyolli> so in die richtung...
04:41 < holyolli> immerhin sind wir nun auf ner anderen maschine, als am anfang..die macht schon etwas mehr spass, weil schneller und mehr ps
04:42 < esden> holyolli: beneidenswert ... aber bestimmt sehr anstraengend das ganze ...
04:43 < huebi> Ich komme so langsam naeher an deine Heimat, ich habe mich bei der Toyota Motorsport GmbH in Koeln beworben. Am Mittwoch kann ich mal wieder nachfragen, denn im Moment sind alle wichtigen Leute in Imola beim F1 Rennen.
04:43 < holyolli> esden: definitiv. jeden tag um 5 aufstehen; 5h in der kiste fliegen (2er Teams; einer hin, der andere zurueck) und dann 1.5h theorie und danach dann den flug fuer den naechsten tag planen
04:43 < holyolli> huebi: wo bist du denn im moment?
04:43 < huebi> Immer noch in Seeheim. Und im Moment ohne Auftrag.
04:43 < holyolli> oh
04:45 < huebi> Ich habe in den letzten Wochen aber so einigen am F1 Motor von Renault gemacht. Teile aus dem Ventiltrieb im Zylinderkopf und ein bischen was aus dem Kurbeltrieb.
04:45 < holyolli> hui. nicht schlecht.
04:46 < huebi> Da hat mich der Rennereikram wieder gebissen - wenn das mit Toyota klappt, es dann endlich mal genuegend Geld im Rennsport gibt, dann bin ich spaetestens naechsten Monat in Koeln.
04:48 < huebi> holyolli: Das hoert sich bei dir ja schon richtig nach normalem Flugbetrieb an.
04:49 < holyolli> huebi: hm. ich weiss nicht, wie es spaeter wird.. zummal lufthansa nun eh nen kompletten einstellungsstopp hat..
04:51 < huebi> holyolli: Wie lange dauert deine Ausbildung noch?
04:52 < holyolli> huebi: noch nen bisschen mehr als 1 jahr...von daher mache ich mir wegen dem job auch noch keine gedanken
04:52 < huebi> Ich glaube, das in spaetestens einem Jahre sich die Lage wieder komplett normalisiert hat
04:52 < huebi> +s
04:52 < holyolli> hoffen wir es mal...zummal es halt generell mal wieder bergauf gehen koennte...
04:54 < huebi> es geht schon wieder aufwaerts. Nur das sich Katastrophen besser verkaufen als guit Meldungen, ueberschattet das doch deutlich.
05:02 < esden> Downloading base-archive/lilo/lilo-22.3.4.tar.bz2 ...
05:02 < esden> File not found, making a note of it.
05:03 < huebi> thank you esden
05:03 < huebi> should be 22.5... or so in the moment
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05:27 < esden> ok ... added WRAPPER_PREPEND ... hopefully it will help with coreutils package ... *cross_fingers*
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05:35 < n00kie> Good morning eseden
05:35 < n00kie> esden
05:39 < esden> good morning n00kie 
05:39 < esden> yes it works it works ... but coreutils still fail ... *sigh*
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05:43 * -> esden back
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06:05 < n00kie> Good morning netrunner_
06:48 * holyolli goes to bed now...cu soon!
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08:16 < starlord> hello all rockers,where can i get bootdisk to for installation,this pc doesn't have existing linux install
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09:07 < starlord> where can i get bootdisk's for installation, i don't have existing linux install.
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09:57 < huebi> Moin
09:58 < capchaos> moin huebi
09:58 < huebi> capchaos: Moin :-)
09:59 < capchaos> :)
10:15 < esden> re
10:16 < rxr> re
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10:37 < blindcoder> moin
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10:49 < huebi> Moin rxr, esden
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10:55 < praenti> moin
10:55 < blindcoder> moin huebi, praenti
10:56 < huebi> moin praenti, moin blindcoder
10:58 < starlord> where can i get bootdisk's for installation? i don't have existing linux install. i have gentoo boot cd does that work or do i need any special prog's included in rootfs?
11:00 < blindcoder> starlord: have you checked iso.rocklinux.de?
11:01 < starlord> yep i downloaded boot cd, but that didn't have mount cmd when i browsed it throught winiso
11:02 < blindcoder> it's there, in the 2nd stage tarball.
11:02 < blindcoder> It's a busy-box-symlink
11:02 < starlord> hmm, i downloaded 1.6.0 cd-boot iso, ok, i have a second look to it's content
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11:04 < starlord> and it's was for drock
11:04 < blindcoder> just try it out, it's there, so don't morry :)
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11:13 < praenti> cu later
11:13 < huebi> cu praenti
11:20 < _NULL> morning
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11:21 < blindcoder> moin owly
11:21 < huebi> hi _NULL
11:21 < _NULL> hi blindcoder, huebi !
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11:48 < starlord> i don't know yet the build system rock uses but is this task easy or hard:1 "package" server,5-10 server's. package server featches new version's of apps and build's them and 5-10 server's look's from package server if new is available and just install's it(no compile!), also those 5-10 pc's should be clustered. so the question is does the rock build system have needed feature's or should i script them?
11:50 < huebi> starlord: You can setup your own distribution with rocklinux for your needs. I think it's a good idea to do so.
11:51 < starlord> i was just thinking the same,i was just wondering if rock have these features "builtin"
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13:25 < necronomicon> hi
13:25 < _NULL> hi necronomicon
13:27 < necronomicon> hi _NULL
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14:29 < necronomicon> hi blindcoder
14:37 < necronomicon> Both attr and acl don't compile due to a segfault in aclocal: Running builtin autogen script.
14:37 < necronomicon> /mnt/rock/rock-src-1.7/scripts/Build-Pkg: line 1:  8010 Segmentation fault
14:37 < necronomicon> aclocal
14:37 < necronomicon> --- BUILD ERROR ---
14:37 < necronomicon> how can i fix that?
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15:11 < esden> good morning!!!
15:12 < esden> hmm ... everyone searching eggs ... 
15:12 < _NULL> hi esden
15:13 < esden> hi _NULL 
15:14 < esden> hmm ... it is so silent here that I could think that even birds are searching eggs ...
15:14 < _NULL> searching eggs?
15:15 < _NULL> where are you, btw?
15:15 < esden> in munich ... at home ...
15:15 < _NULL> ah. k.
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15:34 < blindcoder> back
15:36 < praenti> also back
15:37 < esden> re blindcoder, praenti 
15:37 * blindcoder has no power left :/
15:38 < esden> power?
15:40 < praenti> power?
15:40 < praenti> your power, or laptops power?
15:41 < blindcoder> my boy-power
15:41 * blindcoder has just been inline skating again
15:41 < blindcoder> AH CRAP
15:41 < blindcoder> s/boy/body/
15:41 * -> esden fighting dietlibctarget ... now these are nearly 15 hours ... and only because of one packet: coreutils ...
15:43 < blindcoder> okay everybody sow laughing about my splleing capabilities?
15:43 < blindcoder> GAH
15:43 * blindcoder should stop using keyboards
15:44 < _NULL> *g*
15:44 < praenti> blindcoder: please dont. without the keyboard life would be boring
15:44 < praenti> *g*
15:46 < blindcoder> praenti: I started using the keyboad AND teh computer less. Now life starts getting interesting again for the first time in over a year
15:49 < blindcoder> okay, now everyone hates me
15:52 < esden> hmm ... blindcoder you are right about that ...
15:52 < esden> I mean that without the computer the life is better
15:52 < esden> not that we hate you ...
15:55 < blindcoder> :)
15:56 < praenti> :-)
15:57 < praenti> but why do we do so much work in front of this boy then? perhaps the answer is 42 but i dont believe that ;-)
15:58 < esden> because it is a good replacement for the real life ... and when you do not like to be in rl and simply shut down ... you sit down in front of the computer ...
15:58 < praenti> hmm. thats a good answer
15:59 < esden> thank you
16:02 < blindcoder> well, the computer won't help me looing 30 kilos
16:04 < _NULL> loosing even
16:04 < _NULL> blindcoder: is your keyboard defect? ;)
16:05 < blindcoder> _NULL: dunno. might be, might not be
16:05 < _NULL> hm
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16:14 < A-Tui> hi
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16:15 < _NULL> hi A-Tui
16:15 < praenti> hi A-Tui
16:16 < A-Tui> i fixed my disk space problems, so i can start with build again
16:17 < esden> hi A-Tui 
16:17 < _NULL> gnaaaa... stop saying the words "disk space problems" please... they're my part, today :-/
16:17 < A-Tui> _NULL: sorry :)
16:18 < A-Tui> i must make build in 2 diferent parts
16:18 < _NULL> *sniff* :P
16:18 < praenti> A-Tui: 2 different parts?
16:19 < praenti> that sound very crazy
16:19 < A-Tui> yes i know
16:20 < A-Tui> but i have 2 partitions, both of them are not suficient for complete build
16:21 < A-Tui> so i'm going to use Create-Links script to buils on one of them
16:21 < praenti> hmm. good idea
16:21 < A-Tui> i have the half of built done yet, i don't want lost
16:22 < praenti> A-Tui: i have lost my stage 5 build yesterday
16:23 < praenti> theres was somewhere a link which i deleted and this one crashed my build-system. so i had to set it up new
16:23 < praenti> but now i have reached stage 3 already
16:23 < A-Tui> aha, i have it on stage 5 too
16:23 < rxr> first powerpc iso finished ;-)
16:24 < A-Tui> in the middle of it i think
16:24 < rxr> some more tests and it will go out tomorrow ;-)
16:24 < praenti> rxr: cool. i want a mac!!!
16:25 * praenti needs fakes mips-build.
16:25 < A-Tui> :)
16:25 < praenti> i have a indy sponsored by eads germany
16:26 < huebi> make[2]: *** [/rock-i686/src/glibc-2.3.2/objdir/sunrpc/xbootparam_prot.stmp] Segmentation fault (core dumped)
16:26 < huebi> Does somebody know a solution for that?
16:28 < rxr> praenti: cool
16:28 < praenti> i also wanted a O2 but they dont give the O2s away. they want to use them as x-terminals :-(
16:29 < rxr> huebi: err the glibc-2.3.2 is gcc3 only ... - do you try to get the new gcc and glibc into 1.6 ?
16:29 < esden> re huebi, hi rxr 
16:29 < esden> rxr: yes he does
16:30 < praenti> esden: have you requested an indy from juregen keidel some time ago?
16:30 < esden> praenti: o_O ... could be ... but I do not remember ...
16:30 < rxr> hm - no comment
16:30 < rxr> cu all later
16:30 < esden> rxr: "tja"
16:30 < esden> rxr: cu l8er
16:31 < huebi> rxr: cu
16:31 < praenti> esden: if so, he has the next lugin meeting 4 boxes with him
16:31 < _NULL> bye rxr
16:31 < praenti> but i dont know who requested one
16:31 < esden> praenti: costs?
16:31 < praenti> nothing
16:31 < praenti> i think
16:31 < huebi> I compile glibc-2.3.2 with gcc-3.2.2
16:31 < esden> praenti: hmm ... so I will have to get there ... hopefully I get one ...
16:32 < praenti> but as i said before. you should ordered one by him, otherwise you will get no box
16:33 < esden> WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE coreutils compile under dietlibc *jumparound* WEEEEEE WEEEEE
16:33 < praenti> cool
16:33 < huebi> esden: congratulations
16:33 < praenti> what have you done?
16:33 < esden> nearly 15 hours of work were needed to get that working >_<
16:34 < A-Tui> esden: congrats!
16:34 < esden> praenti: A LOT ... for example added prefix_WRAPPER_APPEND_PO to the cmd_wrapper
16:34 < praenti> cool. perhaps i should try the dietlibc target the next week
16:34 < esden> it is adding a parameter before other wrappers are being run
16:35 < esden> praenti: that does not mean that the dietlibc target is usable
16:35 < praenti> i know. but perhaps i can help you with the proting
16:35 < esden> I still have to rewrite some code in gcc3 and also change a lot in the dietlibc build scripts ... 
16:35 < praenti> s/proting/porting
16:36 < esden> I have to convince gcc3 to use dietlibc as default not glibc
16:36 < esden> so that no diet wrapper is needed
16:36 < esden> it is nessesary to compile gcc3 in the stage 2 >_<
16:36 -!- necronomicon [~ncn@pD953895B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
16:36 < esden> hi necronomicon 
16:37 < necronomicon> hi esden
16:37 < praenti> hi necronomicon
16:37 < A-Tui> hi necronomicon
16:38 < necronomicon> hi praenti
16:38 < necronomicon> hi A-Tui
16:38 < praenti> A-Tui: btw. where are you from?
16:38 < A-Tui> praenti: Spain
16:38 < necronomicon> acl and attr fail in stage 1 due to a segfault: Running builtin autogen script.
16:38 < necronomicon> /mnt/rock/rock-src-1.7/scripts/Build-Pkg: line 1:  7298 Segmentation fault
16:38 < necronomicon> aclocal
16:38 < necronomicon> --- BUILD ERROR ---
16:38 < A-Tui> North of Spain
16:38 < esden> and most likely I will have to add perl to the dietlibc target ... but thank god someone else got perl running under dietlibc so I do not have to do this work
16:39 < necronomicon> Is that because my auto* software is broken?
16:39 < A-Tui> necronomicon: i have a similar error
16:39 < A-Tui> a can't build acl and attr too
16:39 < praenti> A-Tui: ohh. thats good for mike1 now he can talk with someone in spanish, if a few people of us switch to german
16:39 < esden> hmm ... noone is answering my gallery request >_<
16:39 < esden> that sux
16:39 < A-Tui> praenti: yes, i'm helping him to translate ROCK to spanish
16:39 < esden> praenti: that must not happen
16:39 < necronomicon> A-Tui: How can I fix that?
16:39 < esden> praenti: this channel is en only
16:40 < A-Tui> necronomicon: i don't know, i will wait for complete build to look at that errors
16:40 < praenti> esden: i know. but you know some people
16:40 < necronomicon> maybe i should not use the cvs version
16:41 < A-Tui> necronomicon: i used cvs version too, it could be...
16:41 < praenti> esden: this can be a good lesson for not speaking german here for them
16:41 < necronomicon> -> https://www.rocklinux.de/releases/rock-src-1.6.0pre3.tar.bz2
16:41 < esden> praenti: hehe yes ... indeed ;-)
16:42 < praenti> i think armijn has done that a year a ago with bevin
16:42 * -> esden cooking
16:42 < esden> praenti: yes ;-) hehe
16:42 < A-Tui> praenti: i will try to learn german, my grilfriend studies it and he is teaching me :)
16:42 < necronomicon> will the dietlibc target work on 1.6-pre3?
16:42 < praenti> necronomicon: no
16:43 < necronomicon> so what's the best version to use at this point?
16:43 < necronomicon> "stable"
16:43 < praenti> if you want to experiment with dietlibc you must use 1.7
16:44 < necronomicon> um, i dont want any more
16:44 < A-Tui> what uses have dietlibc target?
16:44 < praenti> but as esden said before. the dietlibc target is not usable yet
16:44 < necronomicon> what
16:44 < necronomicon> argh
16:44 < necronomicon> ok
16:45 < praenti> A-Tui: Only some 1.7 bootdisks uses dietlibc alredy
16:45 < praenti> ..bootdisks packages uses ...
16:45 < A-Tui> aha, ok
16:46 < praenti> necronomicon: on intel/amd you can use 1.6-pre3. the only problems here are the bootimages. the rest is stabelized
16:47 < praenti> s/stabelized/stable
16:48 < praenti> necronomicon: 1.7 is development at the moment. as i can see 1.7 is at the moment on intel/amd also very stable but not cpmletely
16:48 < necronomicon> ok
16:48 < praenti> necronomicon: some minor bugs are in there which i cant found yet
16:48 < praenti> necronomicon: if you have alpha, sun you can only use 1.6-pre3
16:49 < necronomicon> which version has no problems?
16:49 < praenti> necronomicon: 1.4 but this version is very ugly
16:50 < praenti> necronomicon: in two weeks 1.6 should be completly stable
16:50 < necronomicon> ah
16:50 < necronomicon> i'll wait until then.
16:51 < praenti> i will rewrite the boot-concept
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16:53 < praenti> necronomicon: but dont be afraid of 1.7. it runs very very well. minor bugs are some points like a missing host.def for imake (this issue is resolved since a few weeks)
16:53 < praenti> s/resolved/solved
16:54 < necronomicon> there are some errors which make the programs fail to compile and which I cannot solve ...
16:54 < praenti> necronomicon: and some packages will not compile in the build process
16:54 < necronomicon> how can I make them compile?
16:54 < praenti> can you give me your autconf, automake, libtool version
16:55 < esden> ok ... making onion/garlic mushed eggs
16:55 < necronomicon> praenti: autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.57
16:55 * -> esden will not go out of house for the next day and more ... ;-)
16:55 < praenti> necronomicon: same on my box
16:55 < necronomicon> praenti: automake (GNU automake) 1.6.3
16:55 < praenti> automake?
16:56 < praenti> ohh. ok this one is perhaps too old
16:56 < necronomicon> praenti: ltmain.sh (GNU libtool) 1.4.3 (1.922.2.111 2002/10/23 02:54:36)
16:56 < necronomicon> ok
16:56 < praenti> ok this is the same on my box
16:56 < praenti> necronomicon: upgrade to automake 1.7.2
16:57 < praenti> if the error is still present it is not a problem of the autotools
16:57 < necronomicon> k
16:59 < praenti> for me it looks more that youre using a fail-optimized build on your box. what processor have you in there
16:59 < necronomicon> p3
16:59 < praenti> cause the segfault habens on a exec 2>&1
16:59 < praenti> s/habens/happens
16:59 < necronomicon> pentium 3 katmai, and have checked pentium 3
16:59 < blindcoder> anyone here has an idea why sed fails in stage 1?
17:00 < praenti> blindcoder: downgrade to version 4.0.5. had the same problem. there are crppy things in the autools env
17:00 < necronomicon> still fails
17:00 < praenti> arg. where are my letters gone
17:01 < necronomicon> i'll check pentium 2 then
17:01 < praenti> necronomicon: what rock version are you using
17:01 < necronomicon> 1.7-cvs
17:01 < praenti> no your running system
17:01 < blindcoder> k
17:01 < necronomicon> uhm, it's redhat 9
17:03 < praenti> than the problem is your redhat system. stage 1 uses ressources from the host system. if you have reached stage 3 youre chrooted
17:03 < praenti> than it is rock's fault
17:04 < praenti> can you do a exec 2>&1 on the command line?
17:04 < blindcoder> == 04/19/03 17:03:40 =[1]=> Finished building package sed.
17:04 < necronomicon> yes
17:04 < blindcoder> praenti: thanks
17:06 < necronomicon> exec 2>&1 does nothing
17:06 < praenti> this is ok
17:07 < praenti> i think how we can trace the command which segfault on your box
17:07 < praenti> ... about ...
17:08 < praenti> can you send me the whole error-file to praenti@lug-in.de?
17:08 < necronomicon> can I do that later?
17:09 < necronomicon> got to go in 5 minutes ;)
17:09 < praenti> yes. i will have a look, what is happening on your system
17:09 < necronomicon> ok
17:09 < praenti> btw. what redhat?
17:10 < praenti> ahh.ok you have written taht already
17:10 < necronomicon> 9
17:11 < necronomicon> later
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17:21 * praenti away
17:21 < praenti> cu
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17:23 < _NULL> bye praenti
17:24 < tfing> yop
17:55 < A-Tui> bye bye, cu later
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17:55 * _NULL wonders, why rock-1.5.19 is so much more stable than rock-1.6.pre3
17:55 < _NULL> *grrrrrrrrrrr*
18:00 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux
18:00 < Mike1> moin all
18:01 < _NULL> hi Mike1
18:17 < ringo78> hi Mike1
18:17 < Mike1> hi _NULL und ringo78
18:24 * blindcoder feeding the dog. brb
18:39 < blindcoder> back
18:41 < Mike1> wb blindy
18:43 < blindcoder> hi Mike1
18:46 < esden> ok ... sed is now fixed too ... 
18:46 < esden> hi Mike1 
18:47 < Mike1> hi esden, bless you.
18:47 < esden> bless you too Mike1 
18:47 < Mike1> :)
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18:57 < necronomicon> hi
18:58 < n00kie> Hello necronomicon
18:58 < Mike1> hi necronomicon und n00kie
18:58 < n00kie> Holla Mike1 :)
18:58 < necronomicon> :)
18:58 < Mike1> n00kie: Hola :)
18:59 < _NULL> hi n00kie
18:59 < n00kie> Howdy _NULL :)
19:04 < esden> re n00kie, necronomicon 
19:04 < necronomicon> hi esden
19:04 < n00kie> hi esden
19:12 < esden> curl fixed ...
19:12 -!- _NULL is now known as NULL
19:12 -!- NULL is now known as _NULL
19:12 < necronomicon> should I use any special optimization?
19:13 < esden> hmm ... nice ... CHANGELOG-ESDEN is growing and growing ;-)
19:13 < necronomicon> with p3-optimzation, there were segfaults
19:13 < Mike1> esden: CHANGELOG-ESDEN 0_o... is this on the official source??
19:14 < esden> nope ... that is my tree ... I have not yet synced with clifford
19:14 < esden> when I am ready with patching ... and I think that it is enough what I have done then I will submit it
19:14 < Mike1> good.
19:15 < necronomicon> will optimization for p2 work on p3?
19:16 < esden> yes
19:16 < necronomicon> k
19:21 < esden> weeeee dietlibc target reached stage2 without a single failed package !!!! *jumparound*
19:21 < Mike1> congrats esden
19:26 < necronomicon> *G*
19:28 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux
19:28 < A-Tui> hi all
19:29 < _NULL> hi A-Tui
19:29 < esden> re A-Tui 
19:29 < Mike1> hi A-Tui
19:30 < Mike1> A-Tui: would you like to take rock i18n?
19:30 < A-Tui> yes
19:31 < Mike1> A-Tui: i am talking about the whole project maintainence.
19:31 < A-Tui> w0w
19:31 < A-Tui> mmm yes, i think i can do it
19:31 < Mike1> A-Tui: i might let you do take it over.
19:33 < A-Tui> Mike1: ok, i´m translating the rest docs in 1.7
19:33 < Mike1> A-Tui: good.
19:34 < A-Tui> and there will be a good idea use locales to let scripts/Help give help in the languages set in the locales
19:44 < necronomicon> Which sparc processors does rocklinux/sparc run on?
19:44 < Mike1> necronomicon: sparc and sparc64
19:45 < necronomicon> I got a Tadpole Sparcbook without an OS lying around here ...
19:46 < Mike1> necronomicon: https://iso.rocklinux.org or ask rxr for an iso
19:47 < necronomicon> It has neither a floppy drive nor a cd-rom drive
19:47 < necronomicon> and I don't have the proper external hardware for that
19:48 < Mike1> mm...
19:48 < Mike1> wanna give it me as a b-day present? :)
19:48 < Mike1> give it to me*
19:48 < necronomicon> *G*
19:49 < necronomicon> How many years?
19:49 < Mike1> necronomicon: will turn 22 on august 20th
19:49 < Mike1> :)
19:49 < necronomicon> *G*
19:50 < blindcoder> hi Mike1 Mike1 your b-day is 20-08-81?
19:50 < blindcoder> damn readline >_<
19:50 < Mike1> yes blindy just one day before you ...
19:51 < blindcoder> that's what I wanted to point out :)
19:51 < Mike1> arrgggs!
19:53 < blindcoder> sorry for being forgetful when it comes to dates...
19:54 < Mike1> blindcoder: its ok, i have not forgot about ur bday :)
19:54 < blindcoder> Mike1: he. I tried to forget mine but failed :)
19:55 < Mike1> blindcoder: i could ask _NULL to beat you on the heat till you loose ur memory if you want..
19:56 < blindcoder> Mike1: nah. there are one or two things that I don't want to forget (how to breath, for one :)
19:56 < Mike1> blindcoder: mm ok, maybe next life? :)
19:56 < blindcoder> okay :)
20:11 < necronomicon> What's so special about patch-2.4.20-ben10.bz2?
20:17 * -> esden is asking himself the same ...
20:17 < necronomicon> *g*
20:19 < necronomicon> I mean, according to the changelog, there majority of changes is in ppc, https://ftp.linux.hr/pub/linux/kernel/people/benh/patch-2.4.20-ben10.log
20:32 < blindcoder> ah, just reached stage 5
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20:35 < demian> hi
20:35 < _NULL> hi demian
20:36 < demian> finnaly my serial protocol is working in asm :) and java .. need to migrate it to C.. and it will fly !
20:36 < demian> hi netrunner_
20:36 < demian> _NULL i mean
20:37 < Mike1> have fun d3bian
20:37 < demian> hello Mike1
20:37 < Mike1> yo demian :)
20:39 < n00kie> heya demian :)
20:40 < necronomicon> How many MBs do the sources of generic take?
20:40 < Mike1> package sources? 1.2Gb
20:40 < necronomicon> damn
20:40 < necronomicon> The partition is only 2 GB
20:40 < Mike1> necronomicon: thats for building..
20:41 < necronomicon> So with 2 GB it would be ok?
20:41 < Mike1> necronomicon: plus lets say 5 - 6 gb hd free to build..
20:41 < Mike1> 2gb won't be enough for a build
20:41 < necronomicon> crap
20:41 < Mike1> maybe a crossbuild but thats it.
20:42 < necronomicon> what's the minimal config?
20:43 < demian> Mike1: da u have a stable rock 1.7-2.0 iso somewhere ?
20:43 < demian> well, any iso.. dunt care if stable or not
20:43 < Mike1> yes i do
20:44 < necronomicon> Maybe I'd go with pre-compiled
20:44 < Mike1> demian: read query
20:46 < demian> thanx Mike1
20:47 * blindcoder back
20:47 < demian> hi blindcoder !
20:47 < blindcoder> hi demian
21:04 < blindcoder> *sigh* what an active channel
21:06 < demian> hehe
21:06 < demian> ill try to use parallel port instead :/
21:07 < demian> seems easy to do
21:07 < demian> and faster
21:07 < demian> 8 times faster :))
21:08 < demian> i could try USb.. but in asm i think that's not so easy :s
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21:16 < blindcoder> pathetic
21:17 < Mike1> blindcoder: did you had luck using nvdia driver with your geforce 4 mx ?
21:17 < blindcoder> *sigh* yes, I have
21:17 < Mike1> blindcoder: good, now i can buy one :P
21:17 < blindcoder> currently using both the VGA and the DVI connector vith OpenGL-Acceleration
21:19 < Mike1> nice.
21:19 < blindcoder> yeah. nice nerd with nice 'puter
21:19 < demian> blindcoder: pathetic ?
21:20 < blindcoder> demian: yeah. A word describing the one who wrote it here a fem minutes ago
21:20 * demian plays quake3 at home using nv.o module ;-)
21:20 < demian> why that ?
21:21 < blindcoder> here I am, 21, single, a bit of money on his hands to spend, on a saturday ewening with nothing better to do than sit in front of his 'puter
21:22 < Mike1> hehehe poor blindy.
21:23 * demian stayed here all the easter coding for the Uni.. neither could see my family and ive not slept often.
21:23 < demian> but i learned a bit of php-mysql :p
21:23 < demian> i should leave .. to test that parallel port thing
21:24 < demian> asm rulez ;-)
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21:24 < Mike1> demian is a weird guy.
21:24 < Mike1> no matter if no one is paying attention to him, he just keeps talking...
21:25 < AndroFlux> If that were true, why did you wait until he was gone to say that? :-)
21:26 < Mike1> cause i didn't thought about it before.
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21:26 < AndroFlux> You take all the fun out of a sarcastic jab, you know that? :-)
21:27 < Mike1> AndroFlux: i guess :)
21:28 * blindcoder listening to "Komm, suesser Tod"
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21:39 * blindcoder thinks about having a beer
21:40 < netrunner_> blindcoder: tired of life?
21:40 < Mike1> netrunner_: he just needs to get laid more oftenly
21:40 < blindcoder> Mike1: FYI: I haven't had any sex in 16 months now
21:41 < blindcoder> okay, maybe that just proves your point
21:41 < Mike1> blindcoder: ouch 16 months...
21:41 < netrunner_> blindcoder: don't think that's too cool, can get pretty exhausting ;)
21:41 < Mike1> blindcoder: maybe you want some chocolat?
21:41 < ringo78> Topic : Better than sex ....
21:42 * blindcoder kicks Mike1 into his butt
21:42 < netrunner_> blindcoder: come here to hamburg, have some fun! :)
21:42 < Mike1> blindcoder: what did i do?
21:42 < blindcoder> I'd love to have some fun... also thought about going to a disco here... but there's noone here to tag along
21:43 < blindcoder> at least no one who I'd like to have with me...
21:43 < blindcoder> ah damn... no beer glass here
21:43 < blindcoder> brb
21:43 < Mike1> blindcoder: take esden with you
21:44 < blindcoder> esden is some 100.000 meters away
21:45 < Mike1> owl?
21:46 < blindcoder> owrl wouldn't go to a disco if you threatened to kill her
21:46 < Mike1> i'll join you for a beer if you come pick me up :)
21:46 < blindcoder> hmm... maybe that's the wrong argument, but you got my drift :)
21:48 < blindcoder> Mike1: as soon as I earn enough money to afford a private Airplane we can talk about it :)
21:48 -!- _HulK_ [~mike@80.103.119.139] has joined #rocklinux
21:48 < _HulK_> hi there
21:48 < _HulK_> drock 2.0 iso's don't work for me
21:48 < Mike1> blindcoder: good :)
21:49 < blindcoder> ah... nothing like a good beer
21:49 < _HulK_> hola Miguel
21:49 < blindcoder> well, maybe a good beer after sex, but that's another issue
21:49 < Mike1> _HulK_: greetings.
21:49 < blindcoder> hi _HulK_
21:49 < _HulK_> como se dice despedida de soltero en inglés, no lo recuerdo...
21:49 < Mike1> _HulK_: oops i dunno sorry.
21:49 < _HulK_> :)
21:50 < Mike1> blindcoder: well do you have some one to have sex?
21:50 < _HulK_> pues a eso me voy ahora
21:50 < blindcoder> Mike1: no, I don't. Who'd like a 110 kg nerd?
21:50 < Mike1> _HulK_: cool, you getting married?
21:50 < Mike1> blindcoder: then you can't have beer :P
21:50 < _HulK_> no a friend of mine
21:50 < Mike1> blindcoder: but i am a good friend so you can have chocolate.
21:50 < blindcoder> Mike1: try taking the beer away from me
21:51 < _HulK_> i'll get married on october 4th this year
21:51 * blindcoder draws +2 elven Dagger called "Sting"
21:51 < Mike1> _HulK_: cool.
21:51 < blindcoder> _HulK_: gratulations!
21:51 < _HulK_> :|
21:51 < Mike1> yo me caso en noviembre :P
21:51 < _HulK_> hehehe
21:51 < _HulK_> vaya
21:52 * blindcoder reads scroll of playing too much nethack
21:52 < _HulK_> well, it's almost 22 o'clock at spain
21:52 < _HulK_> i'm gonna party
21:52 < _HulK_> stou later
21:53 < _HulK_> see you later
21:53 < _HulK_> :)
21:53 < Mike1> _HulK_: take pics for us
21:53 < _HulK_> hehehe
21:53 < Mike1> _HulK_: please, blincoder need it
21:54 < _HulK_> i think nobody could take any photo
21:54 < Mike1> _HulK_: come on!
21:55 < blindcoder> I I I I'm your little butterfly!
21:55 < blindcoder> Green Black and Blue make the colors in the sky
21:55 < blindcoder> *sing*
21:55 * blindcoder shouldn't drink beer
21:55 < Mike1> blindcoder: are you stoned?
21:55 < blindcoder> besides, the first beer is empty already
21:56 < blindcoder> no, taht's a song
21:56 < blindcoder> Smile.dk - Butterfly
21:56 < Mike1> ah well in this kind of stuff beers are better than woman
21:56 < blindcoder> yeah, you can have several beers after each other without one beer comprlaining :)
21:56 < Mike1> blindcoder: you see a beer won't be mad at you if you take another one...
21:56 < blindcoder> hehe :)
21:57 < Mike1> blindcoder: also you don't need to talk to them when you are finished :)
21:57 < blindcoder> MUAHAHA
21:57 < Mike1> *vbeg*
21:57 < _NULL> men! *grrrrr*
21:57 < Mike1> ouch, _NULL i though you were away
21:57 < blindcoder> and you can have a beer with someone else of the same sex without being called nasty names
21:57 < blindcoder> damn... she's here...
21:58 * blindcoder hides beer
21:58 < _NULL> she?
21:58 < _NULL> she has a name!
21:58 < blindcoder> okay, it
21:58 < blindcoder> :D
21:58 < blindcoder> well, the name's NULL
21:58 < blindcoder> NULL is 0x0
21:58 < blindcoder> which is nothing
21:58 < Mike1> blindcoder: also you can choose any, light, dark... so yet another point for the beer.
21:58 < blindcoder> or if you try to access it, SegFault
21:58 < blindcoder> Mike1: indeed :)
22:00 < Mike1> blindcoder: i could go on but i guess it will take to my death so lets continue some other time :)
22:00 < blindcoder> Mike1: if you continue, she might kill us, so... okay :)
22:01 < _NULL> blindcoder: pffff
22:01 < Mike1> blindcoder: also i have a date (sex is very probable), so cu on monday
22:01 < Mike1> blindcoder: enjoy chocolate :)
22:01 < Mike1> cu all./
22:01 * blindcoder kicks Mike1 in his testicles to ruin his Sex-plans
22:02 < Mike1> damn blindcoder!
22:02 < necronomicon> lol
22:02 < _NULL> bye Mike1
22:02 < Mike1> bye Sandra :)
22:02 * Mike1 gone.
22:09 * blindcoder np: RAmmstein - Bang Bang
22:11 < ringo78> np: Touch and go
22:13 * blindcoder thinks about a second beer
22:17 < blindcoder> "My mind has come for physical attraction"
22:17 < blindcoder> "Too young for satisfaction"
22:21 < _NULL> tststs
22:21 < blindcoder> _NULL: Hunz - Face I paint
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22:56 < A-Tui> bye guys, see you tomorrow
22:56 < necronomicon> bye
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23:11 < rxr> re
23:20 < esden> re
23:22 < rxr> hi esden
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23:24 < StreetBMX> hi
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23:45 < LocalHero> Hi all :)
23:45 < rxr> hi LocalHero !
23:47 < LocalHero> Wow, on monday i will begin to reconstruct the iso site. Whats the status on the 1.7-2.0 tree?
23:48 < rxr> semi stable ;-)
23:48 < rxr> I have a PowerPC 2.0.0 desktop ISO nearly finished ;-)
23:48 < LocalHero> And does anybody have any wishes what would be a nice feature of the iso site?
23:48 < rxr> named -beta
23:48 < LocalHero> rxr, wow, you mean that you can run it on an old mac?
23:49 < rxr> no - this one is for NewWorld Macs
23:49 < rxr> PowerPC based - not the old 68xxx ...
23:49 < LocalHero> rxr: oki, but those who are labeled powerpc?
23:50 < rxr> erh - mh I'm not "that" familiar with the Mac - this is my first one.
23:50 < LocalHero> Like this one "7600/132" ?
23:51 < rxr> Althought I have read a Mac history book some month ago I do not now all the product names - so I mainly know about the hardware internals ...
23:51 < rxr> hm
23:51 < rxr> what CPU does it use?
23:51 < rxr> Is YeloowDog Linux runable on it?
23:51 < rxr> do you hwave such a box ?
23:52 < rxr> The 7500 shipped with a 100 MHz PPC 601
23:52 < LocalHero> rxr: well, we have quiet a fev where i work. Old macs that is only usuable to have as a door block :). Actually people are still running word on them. Painfully slow :(.. They are all running macos 8.6
23:52 < rxr> (form googleing)
23:52 < rxr> might work with an less optimized ISO - this one is optimized for 650 CPUs ...
23:53 < LocalHero> rxr, I think they have a powerpc 133 at least
23:53 < LocalHero> rxr,, hehe, That might be to much for them :).. Well, i need to get some sleep now but let me know when you have a working iso and i will try it :)
23:54 < rxr> I'm also quite new to the OpenFirmware internals - so the current ISO is still quite touchy for CD booting - it should improve as soon as I get more feedback - and people sending improvement patches ... ;-)
23:55 < LocalHero> rxr: I let you know when i tested the iso :-).
23:55 < LocalHero> Need to sleep, cya
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