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--- Log opened Mon Apr 21 00:00:15 2003 --- Day changed Mon Apr 21 2003 00:00 < rxr> mostly I *lol*'ed about the broken links any typos ... 00:01 < capchaos> heh 00:02 < A-Tui> how many packs there are in ROCK 1.7 (without KDE)? 00:04 < rxr> A-Tui: arround 650 ... 00:04 < rxr> root:/home/rene/develop/rock/rock-src-1.7-rxr# l package/*/*/*.desc | wc -l 00:04 < rxr> 709 00:04 < A-Tui> ok, i have built now 676 :) 00:05 < A-Tui> but there are several pkgs errors :( 00:11 < esden> re hi all 00:11 < A-Tui> hi esden 00:12 < _NULL> wb esden 00:16 < rxr> some notes: 00:16 < rxr> could you point new people to the preleminary 2.0.0 page? 00:16 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.org/projects/drock/2.0.0.html 00:16 < rxr> there is also an errata including DONE and TODO ... 00:16 < rxr> maybe someone has some additins ? 00:21 < _NULL> gcc-2.3.1? 00:25 < _NULL> i thought it was gcc-2.95.3 and gcc-3.2.2? 00:28 < rxr> ah typo thanks 00:29 < rxr> fixed 00:29 < _NULL> k 00:31 < capchaos> rxr, s/wast/waste/, s/archive/achieve/, s/hight/high/ ? 00:31 < capchaos> :) 00:31 < rxr> hehe 00:33 < rxr> fixed thanks 00:33 < rxr> I should always enable xemacs' flyspell-mode ... 00:36 < n00kie> https://www.rocklinux.org/projects/drock/2.0.0.html <- Bottom "Night" nut "NIght" :) 00:39 < rxr> ack - fixed 00:39 -!- Caspar [~steven261@M081P015.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 00:48 < rolla> re 00:48 < rolla> R_chroot.sh: line 2: ./scripts/Build-Pkg: No such file or directory 00:48 < rolla> ./scripts/Create-Links: line 51: ln: command not found 00:48 < rolla> anyone know how to fix that ? 00:59 < rxr> no - sorry 00:59 < ringo78> I get the same error ... 01:00 -!- dzafez [~dzafez@pD952C6C2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 01:00 < rxr> any build errors at this stage ? 01:04 -!- mnemoc [~mnemoc@200.75.27.88] has joined #rocklinux 01:04 < rxr> Wow! My iBook is now running the first ROCK PowerPC ISO ever created ;-)! 01:05 < esden> rxr: CONGRATS!!! 01:05 < Caspar> :) 01:06 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M344P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:07 -!- mnemoc [~mnemoc@200.75.27.88] has quit ("Leaving") 01:07 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M304P018.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 01:24 -!- mnemoc [~mnemoc@200.75.27.88] has joined #rocklinux 01:31 < rxr> fixed vim 01:33 < esden> question: does anyone know a good cd ripping programm? 01:33 < rxr> you mean some integrated GUI app ? 01:35 < esden> for example ... something GOOD ... 01:35 < esden> ;-) 01:35 < esden> there is one for kde 01:36 < _NULL> god, is this slow... 01:36 < _NULL> 77 B/s 01:37 < _NULL> gn8 01:39 < esden> n8 owl 01:39 < rxr> esden: what are you looking for? some integrated gui app? what should it do? convertion to ogg/vorbis or mp3 ? 01:41 < snyke> n8 01:41 < rxr> n8 snyke 01:52 < capchaos> esden, https://www.geocities.com/ukcave/ripit.html 02:01 < esden> yes rxr 02:01 < esden> capchaos: thanks ... 02:02 < rxr> start konqueror 02:02 < rxr> as URL "audiocd:/" 02:03 < rxr> drag'n drop wav mp3 or ogg - incl. title information ... ;-) 02:03 < esden> muahaha 02:04 < rxr> hm? 02:11 < capchaos> ogg rules btw :) 02:12 < esden> yes ogg rulez 02:16 < esden> ok ... I now drive back to munich 02:17 < esden> cu l8er 02:18 < rxr> cu esden 02:18 < rxr> ACK capchaos: yes Ogg/Vorbis rulez ,-) 02:18 < capchaos> :) 02:23 < capchaos> !> /bin/sh: /usr/bin/autoheader: /usr/bin/perl: bad interpr .. 02:23 < capchaos> wtf? 02:23 < capchaos> does it need perl6 or what? ;) 02:24 < capchaos> it was == 01:33:06 =[2]=> Building base/gcc2 [2.95.3 1.7-snapshot]. 02:25 < n00kie> gcc 2.95 ? 02:25 < n00kie> why not gcc 3.2.x ? 02:25 < capchaos> generic target, i didn't to anything ;) 02:25 < n00kie> ah 02:25 < capchaos> s/to/do/ 02:26 < n00kie> alright :) 02:26 < capchaos> yes it uses 3.2.2 to build 02:43 < rxr> cu all 02:43 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M304P018.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:43 -!- rxr [~rxr@port-212-202-172-137.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit ("leaving") 03:00 -!- shicker [~user@pD9E55E36.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux ("Client exiting") 03:05 < mnemoc> anybody knows how to avoid gcc to abort on warnings when no -Werror is used? 03:10 < capchaos> it aborts on warnings without -Werror ? 03:10 < mnemoc> at least it looks like a warning 03:11 < mnemoc> on 0-mine... when building libtar 03:12 < capchaos> -w suppresses all warnings 03:12 < mnemoc> i message the lines to you 03:12 < mnemoc> is it a warning? 03:14 < capchaos> no it's an error.... wait.. 03:22 < A-Tui> 3.3 gb and i have not suficient disk space :( 03:27 < A-Tui> bye bye cu tomorrow 03:27 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("I like core dumps") 03:52 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M304P018.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 04:03 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M304P018.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Client Exiting") 04:20 -!- Caspar [~steven261@M081P015.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04:23 -!- TrAns13nT [TrAns13nT@24.247.40.253.up.mi.chartermi.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:31 < _NULL> hi TrAns13nT 04:33 < TrAns13nT> howdy 04:33 < capchaos> hi transient 04:34 < TrAns13nT> howdy 04:35 < TrAns13nT> happy easter 04:36 < capchaos> dito 04:36 < TrAns13nT> i;ve had better 04:39 < capchaos> better what? 04:43 < TrAns13nT> easters/days, take your pick 04:44 < capchaos> what happened? 04:45 < esden> re hi all 04:46 < capchaos> hi esden 04:46 < capchaos> == 04:18:53 =[5]=> Building base/linux24 [2.4.20 1.7-snapshot]. 04:51 < _NULL> capchaos: wtf are you doing with your box?? 04:51 < _NULL> wb esden 04:52 < capchaos> _NULL, wtf do you mean? ;-) 04:52 < _NULL> capchaos: cuz you're already in stage 5 04:53 < _NULL> or better your build 04:54 < capchaos> _NULL, envious? ;) 04:54 < esden> capchaos: do you have a cray at home? 04:55 < _NULL> capchaos: sure :p 04:55 < capchaos> sure, my granny sorted it out 04:55 < esden> hehe ;-) 04:56 < esden> perhups you are compiling on the world computer ... the japanese have built shortly ;-) 04:56 < capchaos> :() 04:56 < esden> hmm ... it is a vector machine ... so you had to do something really nasty to gcc to get it running on it ;-) 04:56 < capchaos> i dunno... actually only started Build-Target 04:56 < esden> and linux kernel 04:57 < capchaos> what does a cray cost? 04:58 < TrAns13nT> sorry, was dealiong with somethign in my channel, just been a long day, think I lost a friend cause of some childish thing 04:58 < esden> donno ... a _LOT_ 04:58 < capchaos> TrAns13nT, shit happens 04:59 < esden> hmm ... 4 minutes to encode a 100mb wav file sounds ok ;-) 04:59 < TrAns13nT> your tellin me 04:59 < esden> that is about a half an hour music ... 04:59 < capchaos> esden, encode to/from what? 04:59 < esden> encoding to mp3 04:59 < esden> ogg takes longer 05:00 * -> esden needs a vector coprocessor 05:00 < capchaos> yeah, ogg is odd but sounds better somehow 05:00 < esden> that would speed up things 05:00 < capchaos> heh don't grab to the stars 05:00 < esden> powerbook does have a vector coprocessor 05:00 < capchaos> hmmm i dunno about vector processors.. 05:01 < esden> lovely toys ;-) 05:02 < _NULL> <-- sleeping (hopefully) 05:02 < _NULL> gn8 05:02 < esden> n8 owl 05:02 < capchaos> gnu8 nulli 05:02 < _NULL> gn8 esden, capchaos 05:21 < TrAns13nT> sweet z's 05:29 -!- netrunner_ [~netrunner@p508028E0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05:38 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M304P018.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 06:40 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M304P018.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Damn, wrong button.") 06:46 < esden> if someone of you is searching the most beautifull xmms plugin then try jess 06:48 < capchaos> bah who needs xmms, mpg123 has the most beautiful plugin -> bash *g 06:48 < esden> purist 06:49 < esden> use bb ;-) 06:49 < capchaos> bb? 06:49 < esden> an ascii demo 06:49 < capchaos> *google* 06:49 < esden> it is not a plugin but the most beautifull thing I have ever seen in ascii mode ;-) 06:49 < esden> it is based on aalib 06:50 < esden> and from the same guys 06:51 < esden> ok ... I go to bed 06:51 < esden> good night 06:52 < capchaos> mplayer in aa mode rocks 06:52 < capchaos> sleep well 06:52 < capchaos> esden, vampire :p 06:53 < TrAns13nT> mplayer -vo fbcon rox in a 1280x1024 console 06:54 < mnemoc> can anyone dcc me 0-mine.log? please :-) 06:56 < capchaos> TrAns13nT, ack 06:56 < TrAns13nT> y ack? 06:57 < mnemoc> please :( 06:57 < capchaos> mnemoc, be patient :p 06:57 < mnemoc> =) 06:58 < TrAns13nT> y ack though? 06:59 < capchaos> TrAns13nT, cos mplayer rocks anyways 07:00 < TrAns13nT> mplayer won't start from my flux menu 07:00 < capchaos> TrAns13nT, how comes? 07:00 < TrAns13nT> dun't righly know 07:01 < TrAns13nT> *rightly 07:01 < TrAns13nT> i can run iit from a term, but can't start it from my menu 07:06 < esden> flux? 07:07 < TrAns13nT> fluxbox 07:07 < capchaos> not "flachs" ;-) 07:08 < esden> ahh ok 07:08 * -> esden uses fluxbox ... but I am still on a search for a better window manager ... 07:08 < esden> fast ... small and beautifull ... 07:09 < TrAns13nT> threre is none better 07:09 < TrAns13nT> and u can have 5 terms in one window with the tabs ;-) 07:09 < capchaos> esden, have you tried Ion ? 07:09 < esden> when I use X then it has to be a overkill on colors ;-) 07:09 < capchaos> or treewm? :) 07:09 < esden> Ion ? o_O 07:09 < esden> treewm? 07:10 < capchaos> both are very special 07:11 < capchaos> <URL:https://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion//> 07:11 < TrAns13nT> special ed ;-) 07:11 < capchaos> <URL:https://treewm.sf.net> 07:11 < capchaos> black-/fluxbox is toooo simple :p 07:12 * mnemoc is away [log:off] [pager:off] : [ dead ] 07:12 < TrAns13nT> fluxbox > blackbox 07:12 < capchaos> yeh 07:12 < capchaos> esden, i would like to add Ion to ROCK ;-) 07:12 < esden> hmm ... it really looks nice the ion 07:12 < esden> have to test it 07:13 < capchaos> it's nice for programming... no overlapping windows 07:13 < capchaos> only problem is gimp looks bad with it's little subwindows 07:14 < capchaos> and Ion does _everythingy_ the keyboard way 07:14 < esden> hmm ... treewm is not looking very nice to me ... 07:14 < esden> it is an ill idea 07:14 < esden> capchaos: so it is a bit like ratpoison? 07:14 < capchaos> why ill? 07:15 < capchaos> esden, yeh Ion is derived from ratpoison 07:15 < esden> ohh 07:15 -!- TrAns13nT is now known as CapCrunch 07:15 < CapCrunch> ;-) 07:15 < capchaos> :P 07:15 -!- CapCrunch is now known as TrAns13nT 07:16 < capchaos> i like to be crunched, to on... :) 07:16 < esden> TrAns13nT: do not crunch too loud ... and please clean up the mess when you are ready ;-) 07:17 < TrAns13nT> nah, thats capchaos's job 07:17 < capchaos> yeh clean me up, i my leftover pieces make a big mes 07:17 < capchaos> s 07:18 < capchaos> you'll have to do it, you've eaten my arms 07:20 * -> esden is asking himself why this channel is getting so red ... 07:21 < capchaos> well, dark red actually, don't forget the coffee O-o 07:22 < esden> ahh ok 07:23 < esden> ok ... a bit of whisky before sleep 07:23 < capchaos> whisky??! 07:24 < capchaos> Trunkenbold ;) 07:24 < esden> yes whisky ... Glenfiddich Scotch Whisky 07:24 < esden> that is a very good one 07:24 < esden> very tasty 07:25 < capchaos> i'll look out for it when i feel sad.. 07:25 < TrAns13nT> wild turkey rare breed 07:26 < TrAns13nT> or just straight everclear 07:26 < esden> ok ... now I can go to bed 07:26 < esden> good night guys 07:26 < TrAns13nT> sweet z's 07:26 < capchaos> sw33t dreams 07:27 < esden> thanks *bow* 08:54 < capchaos> Since we have to speak well of the dead, let's knock them while they're alive. 08:54 < capchaos> -- John Sloan 08:54 < capchaos> *argh* 08:55 * capchaos switches back to console again 09:24 -!- kasc [shaman@pD900A904.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:24 < kasc> moin 09:25 < TrAns13nT> howdy 09:29 -!- kasc [shaman@pD900A904.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit () 09:31 -!- rxr [~rxr@port-212-202-172-137.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 09:44 < rxr> re 09:49 < TrAns13nT> howdy 10:03 < rxr> hi TrAns13nT 11:28 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M289P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 11:48 -!- TrAns13nT is now known as TrAns13nT|ZzZzZz 12:03 < praenti> moin 12:13 < rxr> hi praenti 12:20 < praenti> rxr: do you have already a solution for the duplicate man-pages of cups and lprng? 12:21 < rxr> erhm - solution yes: rename them - code no, was not on my todo ... 12:22 < rxr> praenti: could you patch the Makefile to install the pages to $name-cups and $name-lprng ? 12:23 < praenti> makefile is the problem. the man-files have already their name i think. i have the same problem with openmotif 12:23 < praenti> there also a man-page which make acollision 12:23 < rxr> sure the file will be lp.5 (or so) 12:24 < rxr> so you patch the makefile to do a 12:24 < praenti> the better would be a postmake function in the conf where the files are renamed but i dont know if this would be aclean solution 12:24 < rxr> install lp.5 $prefix/man/lp-cups.5 12:24 < rxr> or similat (pseudo code) 12:24 < praenti> ahh. ok. you're right. i will have a look at that 12:24 < rxr> praenti: no moves! this can cause problems on an installed ROCK Linux where the file aready exists ... 12:25 < praenti> rxr: yes i know no moves. so i did that with cp and rm 12:25 < praenti> is this also a problem? 12:26 < praenti> cause i need to modify my current running build 12:26 < praenti> ...then... 12:26 < rxr> yes - on an yet installed system with cups only you would remove the cups manpage from lprng ... 12:27 < praenti> hmm. ok. then i will do that now. 12:27 < blindcoder> moin 12:27 < blindcoder> *yawn* 12:32 < ringo78> moin all(e) 12:37 < rxr> praenti: could you poast your patch in a querry when it is finished ? 12:42 < praenti> ok. but this can take some time 12:43 -!- wosch [somebody@p508179E3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:43 < wosch> hi 12:44 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M289P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Damn, wrong button.") 12:46 < wosch> which mirror already has mine-0.11.tar.bz2? 12:55 -!- wosch [somebody@p508179E3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("--> X") 13:02 < rxr> hi wo 13:14 -!- wosch [somebody@pD9E1CA50.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:14 < wosch> re 13:16 < wosch> the current cvs is looking for mine 0.11, the newest i found so far is 0.10 -- where's 0.11? 13:17 < esden> good morning 13:18 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-076-141.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:19 < daja77> hi everybody 13:19 < wosch> moin! 13:19 < daja77> hey wosch 13:20 < esden> moin daja77 13:20 < daja77> huhu esden, how was easter? 13:21 < esden> it was ok ... I had a lot of time to code ... ;-) 13:21 < daja77> ;) 13:21 * -> esden currently looking in evas 13:21 < daja77> evas? 13:22 < esden> www.enlightenment.org/pages/evas.html 13:24 < daja77> nice :) 13:25 < esden> yes very nice 13:26 < esden> ohh ... there is a etcher documentation ... very nice ! : https://www.cuddletech.com/e17/tutorial/etcher-tutorial.html 13:28 < daja77> there is only one question left, who needs enlightenment... 13:29 < esden> who needs X, who needs shell? this questions are perfectly as valid as yours ... 13:30 < daja77> hmm, ok 13:30 < rxr> jups evas _is_ nice ;-) 13:30 < wosch> everybody needs enlightenment... ommmm! :-) 13:30 < esden> rxr: FULL ACK 13:30 < daja77> wosch: no 13:30 < esden> wosch: no ... that is not what I ment 13:30 < rxr> esden: read the mail from cliff ... 13:31 < esden> ohh 13:31 < esden> on it 13:31 * wosch thinks: Did I forget a smiley there? 13:31 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD9E4FCFA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:32 < esden> rxr: ohh so it is official? 13:32 < esden> nice 13:32 * daja77 checking mail... 13:33 < rxr> esden: seems like cliff is thinking this is official - thus my reply. We should make it official. 13:37 < praenti> rxr: this is not the thing you want? otherwise i create the patch now 13:37 < praenti> lpd.conf.5-lprng 13:38 < esden> rxr: I replyed to dis mail check your mailbox 13:38 < rxr> praenti: hm? 13:39 < praenti> i can also do it this way lpd.conf-lprng.5 13:39 < esden> rxr: but i think first we have to wirte an email to the person that is working on it (/me extra not mentioning the name) 13:39 < rxr> esden: jups - we should do so 13:39 < praenti> or lprng-lpd.conf.5 13:39 < rxr> have you time in some hours to write some lines with me ? 13:39 < praenti> it is your choice 13:40 < rxr> (which will then discussed with cliff) 13:40 < praenti> ok 13:40 < esden> rxr: hmm ... yes I have ... but I think clifford should write the email ... because he is the authority ... 13:40 < rxr> praenti: ah no 13:40 < rxr> praenti: I meant esden ... 13:40 < rxr> praenti: for the name: 13:40 < praenti> ohh. ok 13:41 < rxr> praenti: I would prefer lpd.conf-lprng.5 - this is ok 13:41 < esden> waahhh it is _COLD_ here 13:41 < rxr> esden: sure - but we can provide some lines - so he has s.th. to start with 13:41 * -> esden needs a shower immediatly 13:41 < rxr> esden: much fun1 13:41 < esden> rxr: yes I take a shower and dress then we write something 13:42 < esden> or make a draft ... and I take a look at it 13:42 < esden> I make out some ideas while showering 13:42 * -> esden off to shower 13:42 < rxr> I meant "in some hours" so I can fix some more ROCK bugs before this (time wasting task) ... ;-) 13:43 < esden> ahh ok ... no problem I am the whole day around ;-) 13:43 < praenti> rxr: btw. about what mail did you talked with esden= 13:43 < praenti> ? 13:44 * -> esden has to work on the gcc problem too ... >_< 13:44 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F3BC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:56 < _NULL> moin 13:56 < praenti> moin _NULL 13:57 < esden> ok ... now I am alife 13:57 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 13:57 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 13:57 < praenti> re blindcoder 13:57 < daja77> hi _NULL 13:57 < daja77> hi blindcoder 13:57 < blindcoder> praenti: will you be at "Tanzbar" today? 13:58 < _NULL> hi praenti, blindcoder , daja77 13:59 < esden> "The E Convas Library, allowins hardware rendered canvasing that pulls eye candy back out of Anime films and back ontop of X, where it belongs." *ROFL* 13:59 < esden> very nice description 13:59 < esden> hi owli 14:00 < _NULL> hi esden 14:00 < esden> hi blindcoder 14:00 < blindcoder> esden: ? 14:00 < blindcoder> esden: what's that? 14:00 < blindcoder> esden: hi btw. 14:01 < esden> that is evas ... a library enlightenment is based on 14:01 < esden> and what I cited is a description what it is ;-) 14:01 < blindcoder> aha... and what does it have to do with Anime? 14:01 < esden> Anime = eye candy 14:01 < blindcoder> yeah... sure... but... haeh? 14:01 < esden> hehe ;-) 14:02 * blindcoder has only had one cup of coffee when he got up two hours ago... please consider this fact when answering 14:02 < esden> yes ok ... 14:02 < esden> I try once more ... 14:02 < _NULL> *g* 14:02 < blindcoder> thanks :) 14:03 < esden> evas is a drawing library using Imlib2 for drawing ... it knows of canvas (drawing areas) and is fully object oriented (even if it is c ... /*no comment*/) the objects are things that are beeing drawn on the canvas ... it transparently uses hardware acceleration where it is avalable for drawing 14:04 < esden> it has many backends like X11 or GL 14:04 < esden> but others are imaginable 14:04 < blindcoder> okay, got it that far 14:04 < esden> on that library are based other librarys on top of which eterm 9 and enlightenment 17 is built 14:05 < blindcoder> yes. okay. 14:06 < blindcoder> and where is my almost complete (5 missing Episodes) collection of Card Captor Sakura coming in? 14:06 < esden> and the librarys is the amazing part of e17 not e17 itself ... even if it will become pure eye candy (more beautifull color combinations then your brain can stand ;-) one of the most beautifull tortures of the world ) 14:06 * blindcoder simply can't be too sleepy for teasing esden :D 14:07 < praenti> rxr: lprng patch is in query 14:07 < esden> hmm ... nowhere ... they only mean that Anime is so beautifull and colourfull that it should be on the desktop and not only in films ... see lain ;-) 14:07 < blindcoder> okay, there they are right ;) 14:07 < rxr> 3mom 14:07 < esden> and the main developer of e17 (rastaman) is also drawing stuff 14:09 < blindcoder> okay 14:10 < esden> /join #e 14:10 < esden> ups 14:11 < blindcoder> GAH 14:11 < esden> o_O 14:12 < blindcoder> rene/koffice is running ./configure since 12:42 now again and again 14:12 < blindcoder> configure: WARNING: you should use --build, --host, --target 14:12 < blindcoder> configure: WARNING: invalid host type: $extraconfopt 14:12 < blindcoder> and restarts ./configure 14:13 < daja77> blindcoder: this means it could not determine which system it is building for 14:13 < blindcoder> daja77: yes... but shouldn't it just exit(1) then? 14:13 < blindcoder> daja77: instead o starting over again and again for one and a half hours? 14:13 < blindcoder> == 12:42:26 =[5]=> Building rene/koffice [1.2.1 1.7-snapshot]. 14:14 < blindcoder> it's just configuing since then 14:14 < daja77> blindcoder: hmm, yes, normally it aborts, or ignores this fact ... 14:14 < blindcoder> or is this "normal"? 14:14 -!- kalii [~kalii@gprs2240.eurotel.cz] has joined #rocklinux 14:14 < daja77> it was not normal when some of the gnome packages complained about this... 14:15 < kalii> hi 14:15 < daja77> hi kalii 14:15 < blindcoder> hi kalii 14:15 < _NULL> hi kalii 14:21 < rxr> blindcoder: hm - I also saw such an endless loop in a version of xine some moths ago 14:22 < rxr> it might be a bug in our build scripts - I currently have the problem that errors are often not detected - and the package is marked as "ok" when it exited with an error ... 14:22 < blindcoder> it seems to continue building, though 14:22 < rxr> I'll take a look into this tonight (if Cliff is not faster ;-) 14:23 < blindcoder> I can send you the log if you want 14:23 < kalii> what about steal source packages from gentoo? :) 14:23 < kalii> sorry for my english 14:23 < kalii> :) 14:24 < blindcoder> == 04/21/03 14:23:56 =[5]=> Finished building package koffice. 14:24 < blindcoder> hmm 14:24 < daja77> kalii: no, they do not fit into build system 14:26 < esden> once more ... if someone is searching the most beautifull xmms plugin then jess is what you want ;-) 14:26 < blindcoder> esden: hmm... visualisation? 14:26 < esden> yes 14:26 < blindcoder> then I don't need it. 14:26 < esden> :P 14:26 < blindcoder> I rarely switch to my XMMS-Desktop 14:27 < esden> that is why the jess window is floating and sticky ;-) 14:27 < blindcoder> Then I'm bound to move it around and around because it's in my way. I already have problems with floating and sticky licq-windows 14:28 < esden> that is why I run licq not on my main machine but on my laptop ;-) 14:28 < blindcoder> I run everything on my main machine. mainly because I don't have a) network b) a second machine 14:29 < esden> you have the sparcs my friend 14:29 * tfing got rid of his floating icq window with bitlbee 14:29 < esden> and really enough of them 14:31 < blindcoder> esden: yeah. but currently neither network nor will to do much on computers 14:31 < esden> ok ... 14:35 < blindcoder> okay, gotta shower now, clean up the house and go skating then. 14:35 < blindcoder> Maybe i'm at the "Tanzbar" today. not sure now 14:35 < blindcoder> baba 14:38 < esden> have fun blindcoder 16:14 < rolla> re 16:14 < Mike1> moin all 16:14 < rolla> Mike1: just the man I needed to see 16:15 < rxr> hi Mike1 16:15 < Mike1> hi rolla :) 16:15 < Mike1> hey Ren 16:16 < esden> ahh nice ... uclibc guys have a gcc/uclibc crosscompiler 16:16 < esden> very nice 16:17 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 16:17 < A-Tui> hi friends 16:17 < esden> hi A-Tui! 16:17 < A-Tui> hola esden 16:19 < _NULL> hi A-Tui 16:19 < A-Tui> hi _NULL 16:19 < A-Tui> how many disk space requires *.gem built? 16:20 < A-Tui> i used a partition of 3.7G only in the system build 16:20 < A-Tui> and now i haven't space for the gem packages 16:29 < praenti> rxr: the patches are working. do you want to submit the patches or should i send them to the list? 16:29 < Mike1> hi praenti. 16:29 < Mike1> saludos Aitor 16:30 < praenti> hi Mike1 16:30 < A-Tui> saludos Miguel :) 16:30 < praenti> saludos = hi? 16:30 < Mike1> praenti: ack. 16:30 < A-Tui> yes praenti 16:30 < Mike1> praenti: but think about it more as cheers :) 16:30 < praenti> ahh. ok. saludos Mike1 and A-Tui 16:30 < esden> alpha:/usr/local/data/1.7# du -sh rock-src-1.7.tsa/ 16:30 < esden> 9.1G rock-src-1.7.tsa 16:30 < esden> alpha:/usr/local/data/1.7# 16:30 < A-Tui> saludos praenti :) 16:31 * praenti dont know anything about spanish 16:31 < praenti> till now 16:31 < esden> A-Tui: that is a whole generic build+bootdisks+rocksources 16:31 < Mike1> praenti: you know how to greet now :) 16:31 < A-Tui> pfff i must make magic :( 16:31 < praenti> yes :-) 16:31 < A-Tui> praenti: it's so easy 16:32 < praenti> should be cause i have learned latin at school but i have forgotten most things and words :-( 16:32 < A-Tui> i think i would buy a new disk this evening 16:32 < A-Tui> praenti: i learned latin too, but it's not very similar 16:33 < esden> I use a 30GB disk for rock development nearly exclusively 16:33 < A-Tui> spanish it's more easy 16:33 < praenti> A-Tui: interesting. most people tells me if you can latin you learn languages like spanish and french more easier. 16:33 < A-Tui> esden: i think i have to give me a gift :) A new disk 16:34 < A-Tui> praenti: it could be couse i learned first spanish 16:34 < esden> A-Tui: I am short on diskspace myself ... sorry 16:34 < esden> I always need more disks ... 16:34 < A-Tui> if you are not spanish speaker, perhaps knows latin help you 16:34 < A-Tui> esden: :) 16:35 < A-Tui> i must go out this evening so i will buy a new disk 16:35 < esden> but I think I will buy a 200GB disk soon 16:35 < A-Tui> 200GB? w0w 16:36 < capchaos> and then mkfs.ext2 ;-9 16:36 < A-Tui> :) 16:36 -!- kalii [~kalii@gprs2240.eurotel.cz] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:36 < capchaos> and hard-reboot 16:37 < esden> capchaos: ? 16:37 < praenti> A-Tui: hmm. perhaps i should try it. the only time latin was a good help was as i tried to understand an italian speaker 16:38 < capchaos> esden, i wonder how long fsck will take on a 200G disk 16:38 < A-Tui> italian and spanish are very very similar in words 16:38 < praenti> hmm. thats interesting 16:38 < A-Tui> praenti: if you try it, and need help, i will be glad to give it you :) 16:38 < esden> capchaos: I do not know either 16:39 * praenti will do a spanish course when he is at the fh again 16:39 < capchaos> spanish rocks 16:39 < A-Tui> fh? 16:39 < praenti> fh is a german school. you can say university of applied science to that 16:39 < A-Tui> ah, ok 16:40 < praenti> school form is better 16:40 * capchaos had a spanish course.. it's not that difficult if you had latin 16:40 < rxr> praenti: *lol* not ack ... 16:41 < praenti> fh is an abbreviation for "Fachhochschule" dont know if such a university form exists in other countries 16:42 < praenti> rxr: ? 16:42 < A-Tui> university form? i don't know that sorry 16:42 < praenti> rxr: this is the translation our fh uses for the international people 16:42 < rxr> ACK I was only commenting the "school form is better" ... 16:42 < praenti> A-Tui: organisation. sorry form was the wrong word 16:43 < praenti> rxr: ok 16:43 < A-Tui> it's a private one? 16:43 < rxr> A-Tui: no 16:44 < A-Tui> aha, i think grades at school are very diferent here 16:44 < capchaos> A-Tui, university of applied sciences is know as "polytechnic" in other languages 16:44 < A-Tui> ahh yes 16:45 < A-Tui> i know that 16:45 < A-Tui> in spanish it's "Escuela Politécnica" 16:45 < praenti> capchaos: thanks. i treid to describe that but i dont find the right one 16:46 < capchaos> praenti, np. have fun learning spanish :p 16:46 < A-Tui> :) 16:46 < capchaos> russian rocks btw too! ;) 16:46 < A-Tui> Spanish is a pretty language 16:46 < praenti> ;-) 16:46 < praenti> capchaos: you learn russian? 16:47 < capchaos> praenti, i grew up with it 16:47 < Mike1> capchaos: teach us some russian. 16:47 < capchaos> Mike1, horoscho, tovarish! 16:47 < A-Tui> yeah, russian sound cool 16:47 < praenti> capchaos: i know only a few people which took this as third language at school 16:48 < Mike1> capchaos: cool, now wtf did you say? :) 16:48 < capchaos> A-Tui, it's similar to spanish in that is sounds like spoken by gangsters *g 16:48 < A-Tui> capchaos: XD 16:48 < Mike1> capchaos: are you a gangsters? 16:48 < Mike1> -s 16:48 < A-Tui> :) 16:48 < praenti> *g* 16:49 < capchaos> Mike1, yeah! *3v1l* 16:49 < Mike1> capchaos: nice :P 16:49 < A-Tui> there are too many dialects from german? 16:49 < capchaos> A-Tui, oh yes ;> 16:50 < capchaos> A-Tui, some germans even don't understand each other.. 16:50 < A-Tui> :) 16:50 < praenti> capchaos: btw. what do you mean with "i grew up with it". do you come from east germany? 16:51 < capchaos> praenti, i come from big brother itself 16:51 < A-Tui> :) 16:51 < Mike1> have anyone seen daja77 around today? 16:52 < praenti> A-Tui: yes. the nordish people have a lot of problem with understanding us and also we with them 16:52 * praenti is from bavaria 16:52 < A-Tui> praenti: here it's similar 16:53 < A-Tui> it's very difficult understand southest people 16:53 < Mike1> even in spanish there is this stuff 16:53 < praenti> A-Tui: but the strangest dialect is the from "sachsen" (can anybody translate that) 16:53 < Mike1> you guys could be amazed on how different is A-Tui's spanish from mine 16:53 < praenti> the dialect from 16:53 < A-Tui> praenti: sachen it's from north? 16:53 < praenti> A-Tui: no. this is one of our neighbours ;-) 16:54 < A-Tui> Mike1: yes, f.e. you use s/c/s/ :) 16:54 < Mike1> A-Tui: yeah something like that :) 16:54 < praenti> A-Tui: we have three completly different dialects here in bavaria 16:54 < A-Tui> praenti: bavarian includes Austria? 16:54 < praenti> A-Tui: no 16:54 < A-Tui> ok 16:55 < praenti> even if they speak nearly the same dialect as the bavarians 16:56 < A-Tui> Mike1: people for South America speak a very relax spanish, sound very pretty :) 16:56 < praenti> but we have here "fränkisch". this is around nuremberg. 16:56 < A-Tui> praenti: where are you from exactly? 16:56 < praenti> and "schwäbisch". this is aroung augsburg 16:56 < praenti> A-Tui: Ingolstadt 16:56 < A-Tui> praenti: i had never hear this place :) 16:56 < praenti> A-Tui: Audi? 16:56 < A-Tui> yes 16:56 < A-Tui> :) 16:57 * Mike1 bored 16:57 < praenti> it is in the middle of bavaria. 16:58 < A-Tui> praenti: i imagine where is placed 16:58 < praenti> we have all the three dialects here mixed ;-) but most people speak the bavarian dialect 16:58 < capchaos> Mike1, davai, nemnoschko programirovat! 16:58 < A-Tui> that sound complicated 16:59 < Mike1> capchaos: nah, i will just relax today :) 16:59 < capchaos> Mike1, heh have fun lazy guy ;) 16:59 < A-Tui> Mike1: go to the beach :) 16:59 < Mike1> capchaos: no rock is done by me anymore so.. 16:59 < capchaos> :( 16:59 < Mike1> A-Tui: i have to stay in the office. 17:00 < praenti> A-Tui: and Audi (head office is here) is the biggest company here. EADS (flight probing and assembly) is in the neighbourhood 17:00 < A-Tui> Mike1: ops :( 17:00 < A-Tui> praenti: it's a big city? 17:01 < praenti> A-Tui: no. it is the youngest city over 100000 people in bavaria 17:01 < A-Tui> it's small 17:01 < A-Tui> :) 17:01 < A-Tui> i lived in a small city too, it's very peacefull 17:01 < A-Tui> s/lived/live 17:02 < praenti> A-Tui: and with the most pubs per person in germany 17:02 < A-Tui> praenti: that's cool :) 17:03 < A-Tui> pub=bar? 17:03 < praenti> yes 17:03 < A-Tui> here there is a distinction between pub and bar 17:03 < A-Tui> they are not the same thing 17:03 < praenti> only regensburg has more pubs. and only 15000 to 20000 people more as ingolstadt 17:04 < praenti> A-Tui: what is bar and a pub there? 17:04 -!- jhidalgo [~jose@196.40.45.146] has joined #rocklinux 17:04 < A-Tui> we can say that a pub it's a modern bar for young people 17:05 < praenti> A-Tui: here all the pubs are called "Gaststätte". there is no difference in the word. 17:05 < A-Tui> and the traditional bar are like "cantinas" 17:05 < praenti> A-Tui: this can be a bar or a pub. 17:05 < A-Tui> aha 17:06 < praenti> but most of our inner city pubs are real pubs 17:06 < A-Tui> what time usually have dinner there? 17:07 < praenti> at 7 or 8 pm. but that is very different 17:07 < A-Tui> yes, it's to early 17:07 < praenti> lunch is around 12 pm 17:07 < A-Tui> too 17:07 < praenti> only on weekends lunch is about 1 pm 17:08 < A-Tui> here we live with 2-3 hours of delay :) 17:10 < praenti> A-Tui: i know. we have a what you call bar where the spanish way of eating is done. small meals but as the card says you should eat with a delay of 2-3 hours 17:11 < praenti> most of the meals from spain 17:11 < A-Tui> yes 17:11 < praenti> and with a good wine card 17:11 < A-Tui> yes, wine it's very popular here 17:12 < A-Tui> a good red wine with the lunch it's something mandatory :) 17:13 < praenti> A-Tui: but the funniest thing is that our german physicians says to us that we should eat like the spanish. cause this way of eating is more healthy than that what we do 17:14 < praenti> but this is life ;-) 17:14 < A-Tui> :) 17:14 < A-Tui> well, food here it's very heavy 17:14 < A-Tui> we eat too much 17:15 < praenti> ;-) this is general european problem i think 17:15 < A-Tui> yeah, food it's great! 17:17 < praenti> perhaps i should do a holiday in spain. but i dont like the areas where all of the tourist are 17:17 < A-Tui> mmm it depends what you are looking 17:17 < A-Tui> if you want typical spanish postcards, then go to the south, or to the coast 17:18 < A-Tui> but if you want real typical spanish, with spanish traditions, go here :) 17:18 < praenti> ok. this is more what i want 17:19 < A-Tui> ok, i live in a very small region, so here we are a bit provincials 17:20 < praenti> what i want on a holidays is to know the traditions the people and how they are living. and not what most german tourists want the sun on the beach 17:20 < A-Tui> praenti: great, then don't go to the typical "Ibiza" or "Marbella" 17:21 < praenti> A-Tui: i know that. although i live in a city it is more like a village here. it has a real provincial touch here 17:21 < A-Tui> f.e. my city it's a very cold one, here Spanish's sun it's not true 17:22 < praenti> A-Tui: so best time in august or september? 17:22 < A-Tui> august it's the hotest 17:22 < praenti> how much? 17:22 < A-Tui> in semptember, colds return again 17:22 < A-Tui> mmmm 24 ºC 17:23 < Mike1> A-Tui: you call 24 ºC hot??? 17:23 * Mike1 laughts... 17:23 < A-Tui> Mike1: :) 17:23 * praenti laugts too 17:23 < A-Tui> Mike1: i don't like hot :) 17:23 < A-Tui> i like cold 17:24 < A-Tui> to me more than 18 ºC it's cold 17:24 < praenti> we have here somtimes 35 °C with very much humidity 17:24 < praenti> this is hot 17:24 < A-Tui> s/cold/hot 17:24 * Mike1 imagines A-Tui in the pacific coast of cr 38 ºC 17:24 < A-Tui> Mike1: i would dead there! 17:25 < Mike1> A-Tui: me too, thats why i never go :) 17:25 < A-Tui> Mike1: :) 17:25 < praenti> i was in Rome a few years ago and we had there about 40 °C one day. but this felt more comfortable than the 35 °C here 17:26 < Mike1> praenti: perhaps it was windy 17:26 < praenti> Mike1: no but dry 17:26 < A-Tui> pacific coast, i imagined that, but german ... i thought that have a cold weather 17:26 < Mike1> ah thats why 17:28 < praenti> A-Tui: thats the problem. we get here mediterranean air from south over the alps. but the humidity accumulates because of the alps 17:28 -!- Spicerun [~Spicerun@66.6.196.146] has joined #rocklinux 17:28 < A-Tui> praenti: i see 17:28 < praenti> A-Tui: So whe have here in summer nearly all two days a thunderstorm 17:29 < Spicerun> hello 17:29 < A-Tui> here too, thunderstorm in summer are common 17:29 < praenti> A-Tui: but you are right if we have a week rain. than we have temperatures about 18 °C in july and august 17:29 < A-Tui> i like it :) they are very fresh 17:30 < A-Tui> in winter, what temperatures you should reach? 17:30 < praenti> yes. the suprise was i think two years ago. we had a thunderstorm here and the temp falled from humid 39 °C to i thin 15 °C in about an hour 17:31 < praenti> s/thin/think 17:31 < A-Tui> yes, that's a big fallen 17:31 < Spicerun> Hi, can someone tell me when the last update of Rock Linux was, and if there are any problems with a SMP system? Thanks. 17:32 < Mike1> Spicerun: no SMP problems here, updates.. well CVS is constantly updated every hour or so.. 17:32 < praenti> after that we had two days a summer gale. on the north i think it was a more bigger gale called "lothar". 17:33 < A-Tui> praenti: then weather it's agited there 17:33 < Spicerun> Mike1: Thanks. When you say CVS is updated, do you mean that new versions of the various packages are put into CVS as they become available? 17:34 -!- demian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has joined #rocklinux 17:34 < demian> hi 17:34 < A-Tui> hi demian 17:34 < Mike1> Spicerun: well several fixes are done, but maybe you are looking for an iso, in which case you will want to check out iso.rocklinux.de 17:35 < Mike1> hi demian 17:35 < Spicerun> The reason I am asking is because I am looking for a Red Hat replacement on my main system here, and I'm trying to decide which distro to try. I want a distro that is almost bleeding edge (I'm not afraid of compiling and configuring).... 17:35 < praenti> A-Tui: yes. the best thing was two weeks ago. we had temps about 5 °C and some snow falled. and last week temps about 20 to 25 °C 17:36 < demian> hi praenti , Mike1 , A-Tui 17:36 < A-Tui> praenti: in winter used to snow, true? 17:37 < praenti> A-Tui: and because of that a cold has an easy game 17:37 -!- jhidalgo [~jose@196.40.45.146] has quit ("=Ismael") 17:37 < Mike1> demian: when are we going to buy the stuff for your "home" network? 17:37 < A-Tui> easy game? 17:37 < praenti> A-Tui: not all winters. this winter we had here 2 weeks snow. but the winter a year ago only a few days 17:37 < demian> havent talked with guys yet if they have the money 17:38 < demian> btw, could u get me the price for realtek "cheap" NICs ? 17:38 < A-Tui> praenti: then similar here, this winter was a very cold one 17:39 < demian> Mike1: have u tried hurd ? i like the way how they work with the kernel.. ill try to get it and try it 17:39 < praenti> A-Tui: you only need to forget your jacket or your sweater and you are ill the next days :-( 17:39 -!- capchaos_ [~capchaos@frn3-d9b957b3.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:39 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@gtso-d9b8c402.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: capchaos_!~capchaos@frn3-d9b957b3.pool.mediaWays.net))) 17:39 -!- capchaos_ is now known as capchaos 17:39 < A-Tui> praenti: i see 17:39 -!- jhidalgo [~jose@196.40.45.146] has joined #rocklinux 17:39 < demian> brb 17:39 -!- demian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has quit ("leaving") 17:40 < praenti> A-Tui: ingolstadt is too low for getting bigger snow falls. a little bit more south from munich they get a lot of snow 17:40 < A-Tui> here used to snow all winters, and a lot of frozen 17:41 -!- demian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has joined #rocklinux 17:41 < demian> re 17:42 < praenti> A-Tui: here also a lot of frozen. and in spring a very soft ground (dont know how i should call that) 17:42 < A-Tui> mmm i don't know too, but i understand you 17:42 < praenti> cool. e17 compiled ;-))) 17:43 < demian> which imlib2 version was in compiled with ? 17:43 < demian> @ praenti 17:44 < A-Tui> well, guys i'm going to buy, cu later! 17:44 < praenti> Mike1: btw. should i come over in septembre 17:44 < praenti> cu A-Tui 17:44 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("GNU's not UniX") 17:44 -!- Spicerun [~Spicerun@66.6.196.146] has quit ("The truth is out there, but the server is down.") 17:45 < Mike1> praenti: yes sure 17:45 < Mike1> praenti: rxr will be around in august maybe you want to try to arrive in august? 17:45 < Mike1> praenti: is your trip sure? 17:47 < Mike1> praenti: september its low season so prices to go anywhere will be very afortable, and weather wil be nice. 17:47 < praenti> Mike1: could get a little bit difficult. i have a job till end of august. perhaps i can the last week of august 17:47 < Mike1> praenti: no worries september will be fine as well. 17:47 < demian> gonna have a fast sight at rock devels gallery.. time without see it 17:49 < Mike1> demian: looking for your pic? :) 17:49 < demian> i found 5 new guys.. :)) 17:49 < demian> wtf :p 17:50 < demian> miguel, so could u get the price for those realtek NICs ? my distributor dunt play with that NICs, only dlink, cnet and powernet 17:50 < Mike1> demian: i got a pricelist right here mom 17:52 < Mike1> demian: found an encore for $7 17:52 < Mike1> demian: also a switch for $29.50 17:52 < Mike1> demian: you can get a nice us robotics for NIC for $19 17:52 < demian> I.V.I ? 17:53 < praenti> ok. i must leave now 17:53 < praenti> i have to plan a linux day here in our city 17:53 < Mike1> praenti: ok, we will kepp touch aight? 17:53 < jhidalgo> demian: realtek for $3 @umc ! 17:53 < Mike1> demian: no + ivi 17:53 < Mike1> -i 17:54 < Mike1> jhidalgo: nice. 17:54 < demian> jhidalgo: :)) 17:54 < jhidalgo> yep, but I don't have the phone!, call 113 and ask about umc in san pedro! 17:55 < demian> ok. 17:56 -!- jhidalgo [~jose@196.40.45.146] has quit ("Killed by Cap (Requested by panasync)") 17:57 < Mike1> capy you killed jhidalgo!?! 17:57 < rolla> ./scripts/Create-Links: line 51: ln: command not found 18:04 -!- jhidalgo [~jhidalgo@196.40.45.146] has joined #rocklinux 18:05 < Mike1> wb jhidalgo 18:10 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M285P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 18:10 * Mike1 listening to limp bizkit - n00kie :) 18:10 < demian> hi n00kie 18:12 < n00kie> Holla Mike1 and demian :) 18:12 < Mike1> hola n00kie 18:16 -!- jhidalgo [~jhidalgo@196.40.45.146] has quit ("hunt kevin") 18:19 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@frn3-d9b957b3.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 18:22 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M285P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 18:24 -!- wosch [somebody@pD9E1CA50.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 18:25 -!- demian is now known as naimed 18:25 < naimed> cya 18:25 -!- naimed [~demian@208.165.55.133] has left #rocklinux () 18:29 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@frn3-d9b957b3.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:30 < snyke> esden? 18:30 < snyke> locate esden 18:30 < snyke> ping esden 18:31 < daja77> re 18:31 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M285P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 18:31 < Mike1> hallo snyke :) 18:32 < snyke> hallo :) 18:32 < Mike1> Wie gehts? 18:33 < n00kie> Mike1: Como es usted? 18:33 < daja77> hey n00kie 18:33 < Mike1> n00kie: estoy muy bien gracias y usted? 18:33 < esden> snyke: ? 18:33 < n00kie> hiho daja77 :) 18:33 < n00kie> Mike1: I guess, you ask me too :), i'm fine too 18:34 < snyke> esden! 18:34 < snyke> query 18:34 < Mike1> n00kie: yeah :) 18:35 < daja77> hey Mike1 18:36 < Mike1> daja77: finally here 18:36 < snyke> eeeeeeeeee~eeesden 18:36 < snyke> *wines* 18:36 < daja77> Mike1: define finally 18:37 < daja77> snyke: grab this handkerchief from me 18:37 < Mike1> daja77: /me was waiting for daja77 18:37 -!- jose [~jose@196.40.45.146] has joined #rocklinux 18:37 < daja77> Mike1: why? 18:37 -!- jose is now known as jhidalgo 18:37 < Mike1> daja77: was wondering on rtai :) 18:37 * jhidalgo will get in and out until he is OP of this channel! 18:38 < daja77> Mike1: it rests at work :) 18:38 < daja77> jhidalgo: go on with drinking and leave us alone 18:38 < snyke> daja77: thank you! 18:38 < daja77> snyke: np 18:39 * daja77 was on vacation 18:39 < n00kie> Mike1: Hehe, I'm still learning spanish 18:39 < n00kie> Wanna be as good as you :) 18:39 < daja77> n00kie: at school? 18:39 < Mike1> n00kie: hehe :) 18:40 < jhidalgo> ups, /me was joking! 18:41 < daja77> jhidalgo: :) 18:41 < Mike1> daja77, jhidalgo damn drunks! 18:41 < Mike1> :) 18:41 < n00kie> daja77: No, at home, just for fun :) 18:41 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@frn3-d9b957b3.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:44 < daja77> Mike1: how was hacking over easter? 18:45 < Mike1> daja77: i have not done any hacking in 7 days 18:45 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M285P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 18:46 < rolla> re 18:46 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M285P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 18:46 * jhidalgo didn't get drunk since friday! 18:47 < Mike1> jhidalgo: in 48 hours i will have 2 days of not drinking. 18:48 < Mike1> daja77: how was ur hacking? 18:48 < Mike1> wb rolla :) 18:49 < daja77> Mike1: I was on vacation, no computers, no hacking, no internet, and it was fun 18:49 < daja77> re rolla :) 18:49 < jhidalgo> Mike1: that deserves to feast!, let's go to amargura street today! 18:49 < daja77> Mike1: how come, you told me about hacking over easter 18:49 < Mike1> jhidalgo: you are evil! getting on monday.. 18:50 < Mike1> daja77: last time we spoke about hacking was on tuesday, i took the stuff for hacking at home but didn't do anything 18:50 < Mike1> jhidalgo: getting drunk on monday is evil 18:50 < daja77> Mike1: had you some fun at least 18:51 < Mike1> daja77: sleeped like crazy, and spend time with Rebeca on the weekend 18:52 < daja77> Mike1: sleep can be healthy 18:52 < Mike1> daja77: sure for mortals like me. 18:52 < jhidalgo> Mike1 ^ daja77: what u call hacking ?, reaserch ?, or really hack servers ? 18:52 < Mike1> jhidalgo: coding. 18:52 < daja77> Mike1: do we really had our last talk on tuesday? 18:53 < Mike1> daja77: tuesday or wednesday don't remeber 18:53 < daja77> the time went by so fast... 18:53 < Mike1> daja77: sure, you have got really old in this days ... :PP 18:54 < daja77> hehe, and you not of course, sleeper :P 18:55 < Mike1> :)) 18:56 < Mike1> jhidalgo: hacking means a lot more than security stuff. 18:57 < daja77> yeah sometimes it means to produce as much crap code as you can 18:58 < jhidalgo> that's what I call research! 18:58 < daja77> hehe, yes sometimes this called research btdt 18:59 < daja77> sometimes this is called producing high quality commercial software 19:02 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@frn3-d9b957b3.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:04 < daja77> hey capchaos, wb 19:04 < capchaos> hey daja 19:11 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:11 < jhidalgo> what is that `dotmatrix lc display' output ?, in the instalation process ? 19:14 < tfing> if u have an external lcd display 19:15 < tfing> it can display information about the process 19:17 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 19:18 < _NULL> wb blindy 19:18 < blindcoder> re nully 19:24 < Mike1> _PING_ rolla 19:33 < _NULL> don't be so impatient, Mike1 19:34 < Mike1> mind your own business. 19:36 -!- _NULL [~owl@aszlig.net] has left #rocklinux ("Aslo unwanted in #rocklinux") 19:46 -!- dzafez [~dzafez@pD9E09F98.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:46 < dzafez> hi 19:50 < jhidalgo> I need a list with rock mirrors! 19:51 < dzafez> I know I asked this before, but maybe someone can tell me now 19:51 < dzafez> I need a smal console ROCK .iso to be used to build my own ROCK 19:52 < dzafez> I don't want to install a full system with X ... just for compiling 19:52 < dzafez> other Distributions seem to be not up to date (devfs...) 19:53 < Mike1> jhidalgo: https://www.rocklinux.org/mirrors.html 19:53 < dzafez> Why isn't there a compiling subdistribution? 19:55 < Mike1> dzafez: you can easily do a manual small system to build 19:56 < dzafez> from what? 19:56 < Mike1> just remove everything you don't want / need from package/* in the source 19:56 < Mike1> then build it 19:56 < dzafez> I need some sysem to build it on 19:56 < Mike1> mm... 19:56 < Mike1> i could build such small system for you but would take 1 or 2 days 19:57 < jhidalgo> Mike1: how do a give mirrors to the scripts/Check ? 19:57 < Mike1> jhidalgo: i don't understand your question 19:57 < dzafez> Well, I think there will be many people having this kind of problem in the future 19:58 < Mike1> dzafez: i'm no longer contributing actively to rock linux, but perhaps i can make some kind of target for this porpouse 19:59 < dzafez> Mike1: That would be great. I think the core developers would find some free place on the server for this 20:00 < dzafez> Elseway I would make it available 20:00 < dzafez> but I have to find something to begin with 20:01 < Mike1> dzafez: i can do it create the target today, and the build should take some 24 or so hours 20:02 < Mike1> i would have to send a patch and see if the target gets accepted but anyways i will let you have the iso first iso of this. 20:02 < Mike1> no matter if it is accepted or not. 20:02 < dzafez> does it really take 1 or two days to make a such a small .iso? *NotPushingJustCurious* 20:03 < Mike1> dzafez: the build process takes sometime, and i am my box here is corrently a bit overloaded so it will take up to 24 hours 20:03 < Mike1> if we are lucky it can be less. 20:04 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@frn3-d9b957b3.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit ("There is no spoon.") 20:39 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M285P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:51 -!- dzafez [~dzafez@pD9E09F98.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 21:54 < rxr> re 21:54 < daja77> re rxr 21:56 -!- jhidalgo [~jose@196.40.45.146] has quit ("[BX] BitchX is as BitchX does") 21:58 -!- Caspar [~steven261@M096P006.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 22:00 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 22:00 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:19 < Mike1> re 22:21 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090991C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:21 < kasc> moin 22:22 < daja77> moin kasc 22:22 < kasc> na, war der Osterhase auch schön fleißig? *g* 22:22 < daja77> depends 22:23 < kasc> sounds like a 'no' 22:24 < daja77> no, I'm quite happy with it 22:24 < kasc> why then 'depends'? 22:25 < daja77> well it isn't that I got a lot of presents as your question indicates, I got holiday, this was very nice 22:26 < kasc> hehe 22:27 < daja77> holidays paid by my parents *g* 22:36 < rolla> yeah I am going to get a 40G drive for that machine to do rock builds on it 22:36 < daja77> rolla: great 22:37 < rolla> yup 22:37 < rolla> I got a amd K6-2 700 for free 22:37 < rolla> rock builds on it 22:37 < daja77> rolla: so you need 4 days for building... 22:37 < rolla> true 22:37 < rolla> but it is a spare machine 22:38 < rolla> does not tie up my main server :) 22:38 < daja77> hehe ;) 22:39 < rolla> daja77: but it had more ram than my PIIII 22:39 < rxr> how about this during ROCK Linux startup: 22:39 < rxr> Autodetecting kernel modules ... 22:39 < rxr> Device "Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS7012 PCI Audio Accelerator" 22:39 < rxr> snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm-oss snd-seq-oss snd-mixer-oss 22:39 < rxr> Device "IC Ensemble Inc ICE1712 [Envy24]" 22:39 < rxr> snd-ice1712 snd-pcm-oss snd-seq-oss snd-mixer-oss 22:39 < rxr> Device "Trident Microsystems 4DWave NX" 22:39 < rxr> snd-trident snd-pcm-oss snd-seq-oss snd-mixer-oss 22:39 < rxr> Device "Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture" 22:39 < rxr> bttv 22:39 < rolla> I ment PIII 22:39 < rxr> Device "Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture" 22:39 < daja77> rxr: ?? 22:39 < rxr> dynamic hwarware auto detection ;-) 22:40 < daja77> cool, so kiosk target is on the way? 22:40 < rxr> no I'm not at the live target ... 22:41 < rxr> but we need auto detection for the normal targets, too (IMHO) 22:41 < daja77> ack 22:41 < rxr> currently you can do the auto detection in the stone script 22:41 < rxr> but I'm just adding code to do this dynamically on each boot (I do not like static state data ...) 22:41 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 22:41 < A-Tui> hi 22:42 < rxr> imagine harware changes - and it is also easier to use ... 22:44 < daja77> and it sucks sometimes (experience from kudzu) 22:47 < rxr> daja77: ACK 22:47 < rxr> this is why we go the keep it simple route ... 22:47 < rxr> and I commented against kadzu on the ML ... 22:48 < rxr> daja77: our hardware detectin is pretty simple - maybe this makes it work nicer ;-) 22:48 < daja77> I'd appreciate it very much 22:51 -!- jose [~jose@196.40.45.146] has joined #rocklinux 22:52 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("I like core dumps") 22:54 < jose> clifford.homedns.org is responding ? 22:54 -!- jose is now known as jhidalgo 22:56 < rxr> jhidalgo: yes 23:03 < jhidalgo> then is my motherf.... isa server buging me! 23:09 < rxr> jhidalgo: jm ? 23:09 < rxr> err hm ?!? ;-) 23:10 < Mike1> :)) 23:10 < esden> argh ... I need a faster machine !!!!! 23:11 < daja77> esden: we all need one ;) 23:12 -!- ringo78 [~dunno@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:13 -!- ringo78 [~idiot@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has joined #rocklinux 23:13 < rxr> daja77: no - I need at least two ;-) 23:14 < daja77> rxr: ok I should have better said, at least one... 23:14 < esden> why the heck is the bootdisk target building glibc with localisation in stage 5? 23:14 < esden> can anyone give me a reason for that? 23:19 < esden> hmm clifford.homedns.org is not responding here ... 23:23 -!- TrAns13nT|ZzZzZz is now known as TrAns13nT 23:25 < rxr> root:/home/rene/develop/rock/rock-src-1.7-rxr# ping clifford.homedns.org 23:25 < rxr> PING clifford.homedns.org (62.46.0.51): 56 octets data 23:25 < rxr> 64 octets from 62.46.0.51: icmp_seq=0 ttl=244 time=70.8 ms 23:25 < rxr> esden: no idea about gcc ... 23:27 < esden> I said glibc not gcc ;-) 23:30 < daja77> gn8 you all 23:30 < Mike1> n8 daja77 23:32 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-076-141.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("having fun somewhere else, cu") 23:33 < jhidalgo> rxr: sorry!, where you asking me something ? 23:34 < rxr> jhidalgo: only why you have probs with the server ... - works here 23:35 < Mike1> [mike@nemesis mike]$ ping clifford.homedns.org 23:35 < Mike1> PING clifford.homedns.org (62.46.0.51) from 10.1.1.23 : 56(84) bytes of data. 23:35 < Mike1> 64 bytes from M082P019.dipool.highway.telekom.at (62.46.0.51): icmp_seq=1 ttl=235 time=2282 ms 23:36 < Mike1> rxr, jhidalgo it works here too, and i am also in CR, so i guess its LAN problem or so. 23:36 < jhidalgo> Mike1: yes it is!, i said so!, is my isa server!, hey if somebody is using bitchx like me: https://www.securityfocus.com/bid/7333 23:37 < Mike1> jhidalgo: hehe remove that damn isa.. 23:43 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M285P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 23:45 < jhidalgo> Mike1: i can't, thats company policy! 23:46 < jhidalgo> as a matter of fact, if they need to choose between /me and the isa, ... the isa stays! ;( 23:46 < Mike1> jhidalgo: become sysadmin and show then you can make something better 23:47 < jhidalgo> sysadmin...., i can't say that i don't like that, but I prefer to be the PM :P 23:48 < Mike1> :P 23:54 -!- TrAns13nT [TrAns13nT@24.247.40.253.up.mi.chartermi.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:58 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 23:58 < A-Tui> re 23:59 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M285P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) --- Log closed Tue Apr 22 00:00:43 2003