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--- Log opened Tue Apr 29 00:00:27 2003 --- Day changed Tue Apr 29 2003 00:00 < daja77> oh shit day changed O_o 00:00 < esden> yes it has 00:00 < esden> I still have an hour to do stuff ;-) 00:01 < _NULL_> esden: huh? 00:01 < daja77> esden: my $other_client never told me such nice things 00:04 < esden> ohh irssi 00:04 < esden> what have you used before? 00:05 < mnemoc> six pm. here ;) 00:05 < mnemoc> lot of 'day' to work 00:05 * daja77 whispers: xchat 00:06 < esden> mnemoc: my condoleces 00:06 * mnemoc is away [log:off] [pager:off] [gone:17hrs 12mins 11secs] : [ lunch ] 00:07 < _NULL_> guess mnemoc can eat _very_ much 00:07 * mnemoc is away [log:off] [pager:off] [gone:17hrs 13mins 12secs] : [ lunch ] 00:07 < _NULL_> *aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh* public away scriptc are really annoying 00:07 * mnemoc is back [gone:17hrs 13mins 34secs] : [ back ] 00:08 < esden> _NULL_: ACK 00:08 < mnemoc> i now :( 00:08 < daja77> _NULL_: full ack 00:08 < esden> mnemoc: can you switch it off please? 00:08 < _NULL_> mnemoc: thx ;) 00:08 < mnemoc> :) 00:09 < _NULL_> + in advance 00:12 * mnemoc had disabled that crap :D 00:12 < daja77> congrats 00:12 * mnemoc is now a bit better person 00:14 < _NULL_> *g* 00:15 < daja77> better a bit, or so so .oO 00:18 < esden> mnemoc: congrats!!! ;-) 00:19 < mnemoc> now.. i just need to change outlook express to be a sane-person 00:19 < esden> o_O 00:19 < daja77> waahaa, emergency call send out 00:19 < mnemoc> :| 00:20 < capchaos> mnemoc, spit it out spit it out 00:20 < daja77> attention kids: outlook is not a mailer, it is a fake 00:21 < esden> daja77: it is also a hoak that outlook can manage mails ;-) 00:21 < esden> hoax even 00:21 < _NULL_> one word can make the whole channel complaining ;p 00:21 < esden> _NULL_: hehe ;-) 00:21 < capchaos> like those fake id cards you get when you buy a new purse - that's outlook 00:22 < mnemoc> haha 00:22 < esden> capchaos: FULL ACK ... but they are for free ;-) 00:22 < capchaos> free your mind, give me all your money ;-) 00:22 < daja77> _NULL_: yes, this has a reason, btw it were three words 00:23 < _NULL_> daja77: blll :p 00:23 < esden> _NULL_ should be sent to preschool again to learn counting ;-) 00:23 * -> esden hiding 00:23 < daja77> accounting 00:24 * _NULL_ takes a _laaaaaaaarge_ sword and kills esden ! 00:24 < capchaos> hehe i will become teacher then ;-) 00:24 < esden> and make her cisco certificate ;-) 00:24 < _NULL_> esden: what about cisco? 00:24 < daja77> do you know what MSCE means? 00:25 < esden> I only know MCSE ... 00:25 < daja77> MCSE even 00:25 * -> esden was faster *blll* 00:25 < _NULL_> microsoft certifi[...] engineer? 00:25 < daja77> nope, Must Consult Someone Experienced 00:26 < _NULL_> hehe ;) ok... 00:26 < esden> MineSweeper Certified Engineer 00:26 < daja77> lol 00:26 < _NULL_> this people are so sick ;) 00:26 < tfing> :) 00:26 < daja77> _NULL_: of course? 00:26 < daja77> tfing: hi 00:27 < tfing> hi 00:27 * -> esden needs a faster connection ... or the servers hosting package sources should be faster ... >_< 00:27 < _NULL_> esden: faster than ...? 00:27 < daja77> light 00:27 < _NULL_> hi tfing 00:30 < esden> _NULL_: 90744.630 bytes/sec 00:30 < esden> 123860.854 bytes/sec 00:30 < esden> that all is too slow 00:30 < _NULL_> esden: hm. 00:30 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9522423.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00:32 < daja77> poor esden *angry looking* 00:41 < esden> hmm ... making the uclibc package is fun ;-) 00:42 < esden> it has the same configuration system the kernel has 00:42 < daja77> the same with rtai 00:43 < _NULL_> <-- sleeping 00:43 < _NULL_> gn8 00:44 < daja77> n8 _NULL_ 00:44 < daja77> damn that A-tui can't speak german :( 00:44 < esden> daja77: why? 00:45 < daja77> fefe did such a funny rant about docbook, which harrassed A-tui some days ago 00:49 < Caspar> hi 00:49 < Caspar> what means: ./scripts/Download -all 00:49 < Caspar> ERROR: Unknown file: cantus-1.06-1.tar.gz. 00:49 < daja77> esden: want it as mail? 00:56 < tsa> where did he? 00:56 < tsa> From: Felix von Leitner <usenet-20030428@fefe.de> 00:56 < tsa> Newsgroups: de.alt.sysadmin.recovery 00:56 < tsa> Subject: Ist DocBook wirklich so beschissen? 00:56 < tsa> Message-ID: <3eada3b8@fefe.de> 00:57 < daja77> yes, it is not on google this time, so I can't post a link here 00:59 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dialin-145-254-158-018.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("nachti") 01:02 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090B752.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:06 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Der Sinn des Lebens ist die Suche nach eben jenem.") 01:07 < esden> daja77: please sond it to me 01:07 < daja77> ok 01:07 < daja77> esden@rocklinux.org ? 01:07 < esden> ack 01:08 * -> esden loves fefe humor ;-) 01:08 -!- kasc [~kasc@p50909E2E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:08 * daja77 too 01:08 < daja77> mail sent 01:09 < esden> thanks 01:22 < daja77> esden, all gn8 01:23 < esden> n8 daja77 01:23 < daja77> have fun ;) 01:23 < esden> ok ... I will have to continue m4 learning tomorrow 01:23 < esden> >_< 01:23 < esden> I hate the flow of time >_< 01:23 < daja77> ack 01:24 < tfing> [1]+ Stopped time 01:24 < esden> good night 01:24 < tfing> nite esden 01:33 -!- mauricio [~mauricio@196.40.45.146] has joined #rocklinux 01:41 < tsa> cu all 01:41 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9E12285.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("*plopp*") 02:22 -!- mauricio [~mauricio@196.40.45.146] has quit ("BitchX: EPIC on steroids.") 02:28 < tfing> how do you say open source in german ? 02:30 -!- scab [~scab@cable200-75-64-170.epm.net.co] has joined #rocklinux 02:30 < scab> hi 02:39 -!- scab is now known as saight 02:44 -!- Caspar [~steven261@M093P003.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:45 -!- saight is now known as rekcah 02:45 -!- rekcah is now known as saight 02:54 -!- george [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux 02:55 < george> hi there. 02:55 < george> Rene, awake? 03:11 < saight> hi george 03:19 -!- saight [~scab@cable200-75-64-170.epm.net.co] has quit ("leaving") 04:49 -!- george [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 06:37 < blindcoder> moin 06:40 -!- Netsplit asimov.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: vectrax, kasc, huebi, fake, Lorini, daja77, praenti, ringo78, blindcoder, rxr, (+4 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 06:40 -!- Netsplit over, joins: praenti, kasc, _NULL_, rxr, SMP, fake, vectrax, ringo78, mnemoc, daja77 (+4 more) 06:56 -!- bluefire [bluefire@p50817A80.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 06:56 -!- bluefire [bluefire@p50817A80.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Client Quit) 07:05 < rxr> 0~re 07:12 < kasc> moin 07:20 < rxr> Committed revision 47. 07:23 < rxr> cu 07:28 -!- blindcoder is now known as help 07:28 -!- help is now known as blindcoder 07:36 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4FDD8.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux () 08:09 -!- starlord [~mipesu@aapo.japo.fi] has joined #rocklinux 08:12 < starlord> where can i get infodir/packages file as the install_bin uses it but i don't have it,also i'm using snapshot tar file 08:14 < starlord> also how easy it's to change Download script to use wget,it seem's to be that all popular rescue iso's have only that 08:29 < esden> good morning 08:34 < starlord> morning esden 09:19 < esden> cu all 09:34 < rxr> re 09:36 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4FDD8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:36 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4FDD8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Client Quit) 09:37 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4FDD8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:37 < blindcoder> okay, now I'm done :) 09:37 < blindcoder> hi all 09:39 < rxr> starlord: you can not easily chnage curl to wget ... 09:42 -!- blindcoder is now known as help 09:43 -!- help is now known as blindcoder 09:44 -!- bluefire [bluefire@x4.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #rocklinux 09:58 < starlord> hi blindcoder,why's that? or easy to make shell script named curl that is wrapper for wget,just have to know how curl is called,what the parameter's are and so on... 09:59 < rxr> no - we use curl features quite extensively to handle farious error conditions - you cannot emulate this 09:59 < rxr> simply get curl 10:00 < starlord> and what's that infodir/packages file,how to create it,does the Configure make it, it need gcc and rescue disks offen don't have them 10:00 < starlord> plaah,need livecd iso that has gcc,curl,etc... 10:01 < starlord> does rock have livecd? i'm trying to install to pc that doesn't have existing install of any kind of os 10:03 * starlord went to smoke. 10:04 < rxr> starlord: we'll have a livecd soon 10:05 < rxr> starlord: use the full ISOs provided ... 10:06 < starlord> rxr:they don't provide support for my crappy isa eth card,how soon? :) 10:11 * starlord is back from smoke 10:12 -!- swede [~snafu@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has joined #rocklinux 10:14 < rxr> hm? How soon what? An ISO ? 10:14 < rxr> or the livecd ? 10:15 < starlord> livecd 10:16 < rxr> ah - some weeks. I'll do more stableization for the 2.0 release - I'll do the livecd target in the free time in between ... :-( 10:16 < rxr> but you could get the 2.0.0-beta CDs ... 10:16 < rxr> er -alpha I mean 10:17 < rxr> the -beta are lying around here waiting for release ... 10:17 < rxr> ;-) 10:17 < starlord> does they have pnp tools or kernel builtin support for isa eth cards? 10:17 < rxr> the isapnp should be compiled in. 10:17 < starlord> and module ne.o 10:18 < rxr> but - wait a minute the alpha release misses the hardware autodetection 10:18 < rxr> if you want this - you have to wait until tonight (or so) when I release 2.0.0-beta ... :-( 10:20 < starlord> ok,will wait,if it doesn't work,have to try knoppix livecd(might be missing curl) 10:21 < starlord> for what cpu it is compiled? hopefully i386 so it work's on everyone 10:22 < rxr> nope - I'll optimize my official CD for pentium-mmx 10:23 < rxr> Otherwise we would loose to much speed - and all normally used boxes have at least such an mmx-pentium ... 10:29 -!- starlord [~mipesu@aapo.japo.fi] has quit ("going to work") 10:31 < rxr> hehe - so even s.o. over at osnew.org has noticed that the kde is slow - gnome is fast is not valid anymore: 10:31 < rxr> "SuSE's default KDE 3.1 interface is faster than the Gnome 2.2 interface coming with Red Hat 9. The difference is so big that it is difficult to go back to Red Hat after some time with SuSE. Especially annoying is that basic everyday applications are tediously slow in Gnome, like Nautilus, calculator, text editor and others. You almost here clock ticking when you select "run application" from the menu ... Gnome may have a perfect arch 10:33 < swede> if just KDE didn't have such a GUI deficiency... 10:35 < rxr> hm - I dont't think so ... 10:35 < swede> diffrence of opinion I guess, but KDE just get on my nerves.. 10:37 < blindcoder> I once ried switching to KDE from iceWM because I needed Xinerama 10:37 < blindcoder> after two days I switched back to iceWM 10:40 < swede> I can understand you... 10:41 < blindcoder> After 30 minutes of searching for how I can bind "hotkeys" to programs I gave up 10:41 < blindcoder> like (Ctrl+Alt+t == xterm) 10:41 < swede> I am sure that is somewhere in the Kontrolcenter.. 10:42 < swede> if it isn't, it should be.. 10:42 < swede> in Gnome2, you'd use gconf-editor to modify Gnome's settings on the fly.. 10:42 < blindcoder> next I couldn't find how to add "custom" programs to the toolbar (other than the predefined set of programs available with right-mouse-button) 10:42 < blindcoder> hehe in iceWM I just edit a few text-files :) 10:43 < swede> yeh.. I remember the good old days of Ctwm... 10:43 < blindcoder> hm... don't know that one 10:45 < rxr> blindcoder: right click on the panel -> Panel Menu -> Add -> Special Button -> Non KDE Application 10:45 < rxr> swede: will take a look in a moment 10:45 < blindcoder> rxr: hmm... haven't found that the last time... I'll have a look when I'm home 10:48 < rxr> swede: IISC: kcontrol -> Reginal & Accessibility -> Keyboard Shortcuts 10:48 < swede> rxr: thought it would be in there somewhere.. 10:48 < rxr> it is in the KDE Control Center 10:49 < rxr> ad the tree node: Reginal & Accessibility 10:50 < blindcoder> rxr: can I define my own "hotkeys" there? like "Ctrl+Alt+Bosskey" == "sudo rm -rf /" ? 10:50 < rxr> s/ad/at/ 10:53 < rxr> blindcoder: the neuronal net would not allow you to defince s.th. like that *g* 10:54 < rxr> I only find a short-cut defince for applications in the KDE Menu 10:54 < blindcoder> rxr: bah. I know what I'm doing. I just don't know what effect my doing will have :D 10:54 < rxr> Jups 10:55 < blindcoder> hmm... well, I could of course add it to the KDE-Menu. But one Item for each of xmm forward/backwad/play/pause/stop would be a bit much IMO 10:58 < rxr> yes of course 11:00 * blindcoder off to lunch 11:00 -!- bluefire [bluefire@x4.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de] has quit ("leaving") 11:15 < rxr> Committed revision 50. 11:17 < mnemoc> you have passed from 45 to 50 while i build 1-gcc3 :( 11:18 < rxr> mnemoc: mostly merges with Cliffs CVS ... 11:18 < rxr> hi btw ;-) 11:18 < mnemoc> hi :) 11:20 < rxr> my 5-gcc3 is also still building ;-) 11:21 < mnemoc> :D 11:21 < mnemoc> happy happy joy joy 11:22 < mnemoc> 51??.. it grows fast 11:23 -!- swede [~snafu@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has left #rocklinux ("Client exiting") 11:25 < blindcoder> rehi 11:26 < rxr> ;-) 11:28 < rxr> cu later 12:37 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:51 < rxr> 3aaaarghthghghgghgh 12:51 < rxr> those broken crap that arrives as patch here :-( 12:51 < blindcoder> ? 12:55 < rxr> read ML 12:55 < rxr> the next time I'll delete those packages ... 12:56 < kasc> re 12:56 < blindcoder> oh... so that's why the whole nikolaus repositary failed 12:57 < mnemoc> that was hard 12:57 < kasc> what packages? 12:57 < mnemoc> the whole repo. 12:58 < rxr> :-( 12:58 < kasc> nikolaus repos? 12:58 < mnemoc> rxr: do you know when the -lattr issue will get priority? 13:04 < rxr> mnemoc: huhm - I thought it has highest priority - but cliff seems to be very busy ... 13:04 < rxr> ixed all of nikolaus' packages to at least sustain the sanity checks ... 13:04 < rxr> --This line, and those below, will be ignored-- 13:04 < rxr> M Documentation/Developers/CHANGELOG-RENE 13:04 < rxr> M package/nikolaus/gnupod-perlmods/gnupod-perlmods.desc 13:04 < rxr> M package/nikolaus/xfsamba/xfsamba.desc 13:04 < rxr> M package/nikolaus/cheapskatefonts/cheapskatefonts.desc 13:04 < rxr> M package/nikolaus/linesrv/linesrv.desc 13:04 < rxr> M package/nikolaus/whatsnewfm/whatsnewfm.desc 13:04 < rxr> M package/nikolaus/ocs/ocs.desc 13:04 < rxr> M package/nikolaus/qtparted/qtparted.desc 13:04 < rxr> M package/nikolaus/ntfsprogs/ntfsprogs.desc 13:04 < rxr> M package/nikolaus/tsclient/tsclient.desc 13:04 < rxr> M package/nikolaus/dnrd/dnrd.desc 13:04 < rxr> M package/nikolaus/mgt/mgt.desc 13:04 < rxr> M package/nikolaus/rdesktop/rdesktop.desc 13:04 < rxr> M package/nikolaus/gnupod/gnupod.desc 13:04 < rxr> M package/nikolaus/easytag/easytag.desc 13:04 < rxr> M package/nikolaus/grepmail/grepmail.desc 13:04 < rxr> M package/nikolaus/flac/flac.desc 13:04 < rxr> M package/nikolaus/id3lib/id3lib.desc 13:05 < rxr> M package/nikolaus/muttprint/muttprint.desc 13:05 < rxr> M package/nikolaus/unison/unison.desc 13:05 < rxr> M package/nikolaus/gpart/gpart.desc 13:05 < rxr> M package/base/parted/parted.desc 13:05 < rxr> Committed revision 52. 13:05 < blindcoder> puha 13:08 * rxr grummels ... 13:09 < kasc> hehe 13:09 < _NULL_> hi 13:09 < blindcoder> moin nully 13:10 < _NULL_> hi blindy 13:13 < _NULL_> why, why, why? why is school such a crap? 13:14 < blindcoder> because it's school 13:14 < _NULL_> hrmpf. shouldn't you _learn_ something at school? or did i get something wrong? 13:15 < blindcoder> no. You shall sit down and be quiet while the teacher tells you something you a) already know b) don't need c) all of the above 13:15 < kasc> i did learn a lot during school... 13:16 < blindcoder> kasc: drinking? :) 13:16 < kasc> e.g. how to sleep while looking awake 13:16 < _NULL_> *g* 13:16 < blindcoder> *muahahaha* 13:16 < kasc> or how to do useful stuff under the table in a way the teacher wont notice 13:17 < blindcoder> no. I learned when it's best not to tell people you depend on that they're stupid idiots >_< 13:17 < blindcoder> like telling the teacher that what he's telling is absolutely wrong 13:17 < _NULL_> kasc: full ack ;) 13:19 < kasc> blindcoder: no good idea. In nearly all cases you end up with getting bad grades 13:20 < blindcoder> kasc: yes. I learned that at the end of the year >_< 13:21 < blindcoder> But I just had to tell him that I can't hack the school system through a "Steckdose". Not even with Linux on my laptop. 13:21 < blindcoder> he didn't believe me, though and I had an empty battery on the train home. That sucked 13:23 < kasc> lol 13:23 < daja77> hi 13:24 < blindcoder> moin daja77 13:24 < _NULL_> hi daja77 13:25 < _NULL_> could people who 're having knowledge in "networking" please join #quizzone ? ;) i need to have an solution on my paper. thank you in advance *vbeg* 13:26 * blindcoder joining 13:26 < _NULL_> thx 13:26 < kasc> moin daja77 13:27 < daja77> +*argh* sony websites suck 13:28 < _NULL_> daja77: why? 13:28 < daja77> they have their monitor specs only as pdf 13:29 < daja77> the pdf viewers on this sparc are too old to display it properly 13:30 < daja77> *argh* display features guide (shockwave version) 13:34 < daja77> bye folks, have to go to a lecture 13:34 < daja77> cu 13:34 < _NULL_> bye daja77 13:55 < rxr> *lol*:Found 26763 new/updated files in source tree: 13:55 < _NULL_> hi rxr 13:56 < _NULL_> rock increased during night? 13:56 < blindcoder> rxr: did clifford do a ./scripts/Create-CopyPatch? 13:57 < rxr> no - I moved my builds from my build-box's rsync tree to an svn synced tree ;-) 13:57 < blindcoder> oh... okay 14:25 -!- senaxl [~senaxl@pD955A328.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:25 < senaxl> Huhu 14:26 < blindcoder> hi 14:27 -!- kasc [~kasc@p50909E2E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:33 -!- maisenhe [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:33 -!- maisenhe is now known as rolla 14:33 < _NULL_> hi rolla 14:33 < rolla> re 14:33 < rolla> much better now :) 14:33 -!- Lorini [~andrea@p3EE219C3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14:35 < blindcoder> re rolla 14:41 -!- Lorini [~andrea@pD9506D94.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #RockLinux 15:06 < esden> re hi all 15:07 < blindcoder> hi esden 15:07 < esden> hi blindcoder 15:07 < rolla> re esden 15:07 < blindcoder> esden: overslept again? *g* 15:08 < esden> noo 15:08 < esden> I was in the uni 15:08 < blindcoder> slept at uni? :D 15:08 < blindcoder> esden: I taught keepnick.pl what NickServ is :) 15:09 < esden> blindcoder: very nice 15:09 * -> esden is currently learning m4 ;-) 15:09 < blindcoder> why that? 15:09 < esden> because I want to make the configuration of uclibc in m4 15:10 < esden> and I want to cleanup linux* packet configuration 15:10 < esden> to be more consistant 15:11 < blindcoder> hmm... kay 15:11 < blindcoder> esden: you'll see the new keepnick.pl in action in a few minutes 15:11 < esden> clifford is using m4 there but most of the logic is made in shellscripts ... so if he uses m4 it should be made correctly ... and not the way it is now 15:11 < esden> o_O 15:11 < esden> teledum reconnect? 15:11 < blindcoder> yes 15:17 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD9E4F577.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:17 < blindcod1r> re 15:17 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4FDD8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: blindcod1r!blindcoder@pD9E4F577.dip.t-dialin.net))) 15:17 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 15:18 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F577.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: blindcoder!blindcoder@pD9E4F577.dip.t-dialin.net))) 15:18 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F577.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:18 < blindcoder> okay 15:18 < blindcoder> that still needs some work :) 15:20 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 15:20 < Mike1> hi. 15:20 < blindcoder> moin Mike1 15:20 < Mike1> moin blindy 15:20 < _NULL_> hi Mike1 15:20 * Mike1 is looking for a job... 15:21 < blindcoder> Mike1: you were fired? 15:21 < Mike1> ack. :( 15:21 < _NULL_> Mike1: huh? i thought you're going to sing.? 15:21 < blindcoder> shit... why that? 15:21 < Mike1> _NULL_: yes i will but not yet, SARS is to dangerous to take the risk yet 15:21 < _NULL_> urgs. full ack 15:21 < Mike1> blindcoder: the company (informatica) is going bank broke. 15:22 < _NULL_> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!! FSCK! 15:22 < Mike1> _NULL_: for now i just do contractor work for them. 15:22 < blindcoder> shit... that sucks... 15:22 < _NULL_> that's cruel shit! 15:22 < Mike1> _NULL_: one SARS is gone i will move. 15:22 < Mike1> blindcoder: _NULL_ yup it does, i will only be here for a few more days 15:22 < _NULL_> hm... will take some time, i guess :-( 15:22 < Mike1> then iw ill vanish for sometime... 15:23 < _NULL_> dammit. and it wasn't clear longer before? 15:23 < Mike1> _NULL_: how do you mean? 15:23 < _NULL_> Mike1: didn't you know some month or so ago, that the company will be bancrupt 15:24 < Mike1> _NULL_: yeah we were specting that, but it still sucks.. i just needed some more time. 15:24 < rolla> Mike1: 15:24 < Mike1> _NULL_: anyways i will see what i can do. 15:24 < Mike1> hi rolla 15:24 < _NULL_> Mike1: full ack. :-( have luck looking for a new job 15:25 < Mike1> _NULL_: maybe you need an asistant? :) 15:25 < _NULL_> Mike1: hehe. nobody will be hired by our company. but someone will be fired *sigh* 15:26 < Mike1> ouch. 15:26 < _NULL_> Mike1: jup 15:27 * _NULL_ could be "happy" if she still can continue her training (which will normally end end of august 2004) 15:28 * Mike1 removing all his data from the informatica servers... 15:36 < esden> SARS???? 15:36 < esden> hi Mike1! god bless you 15:36 < _NULL_> hi esden 15:37 < _NULL_> esden: SARS = the "disaese" (lungenkrankheit) which is in china and so on... 15:37 < esden> ahh yes ... 15:37 < esden> I allways hear it ... I never read about it ... 15:37 < Mike1> god bless you esdy 15:37 < _NULL_> www.spiegel.de is your friend, esden 15:37 < blindcoder> esden: will you be in IN tomorrow evening/thursday/friday? 15:38 < esden> I will be tomorrow in IN ... why? 15:38 < blindcoder> hmm... I need someone to go to with my inline skates 15:38 < blindcoder> Just my usual tour gets boring over time 15:39 < esden> _NULL_: /me not going to that part of the world ... so I do not have to read about it ... it is enough that I hear it in tv from time to time 15:39 < _NULL_> esden: NACK 15:39 < esden> hmm ... /me not having skates @ blindcoder 15:39 < blindcoder> esden: but you do have a bike :) 15:40 < blindcoder> _NULL_: please... spare us from your views on news and politics, will you? 15:40 < esden> and wenesday is already full ... I am not sure if I will be able to find time to go skating ... >_< 15:40 < esden> or biking 15:40 < blindcoder> :P 15:40 < _NULL_> oh oh... someone is planning evil stuff (sports) 15:40 < esden> sorry I promissed some people already that I will meet them 15:40 < blindcoder> _NULL_: not planning. DOING. 15:40 < blindcoder> esden: no problem. 15:40 < _NULL_> blindcoder: haha :p even more evil 15:41 < blindcoder> esden: I'll ask Darki then. 15:41 < esden> sorry blindcoder :-( 15:42 < esden> Mike1: have you tired to ask chris to do remote work? 15:45 < Mike1> i am doing it remote work already 15:47 < esden> ahh ok 15:49 * blindcoder going home 15:49 < blindcoder> baba 15:52 < _NULL_> bye blindy 15:55 < senaxl> i take a look at "rock-src-1.7-200303192343", i dont want to build the dietlibc, is the following command enough? $ sed -e 's/ DIETLIBC//' packages > packages.new 16:01 < esden> senaxl: are you trying to build the dietlibc target? 16:01 < senaxl> no! 16:01 < esden> when you do that then packages like gcc3 and linux24 will also not be built 16:02 < esden> they also have the DIETLIBC tag 16:02 < senaxl> i dont want linux24, but gcc3 :) 16:02 < esden> so do it the propper way and deselect dietlibc in the ./scripts/Config 16:02 < senaxl> hm. 16:03 < senaxl> -> export ROCKCFG_DIETLIBC='0' 16:03 < senaxl> but it will be build.. 16:03 < esden> haeh? 16:03 < esden> you mean the dietlibc package 16:04 < esden> look more carefulli in the config menue 16:04 < senaxl> hm? *g* 16:04 < esden> there is a place where you can deselect packages 16:04 < esden> I still can not understand why you want to deselct it 16:04 < senaxl> wait :) 16:10 < senaxl> i dont want the dietlibc support, so i had desecleted it (ROCKCFG_DIETLIBC=0) - but the build script, build "with dietlibc" support... 16:10 < esden> which target are you building? 16:11 < senaxl> generic... 16:11 < senaxl> "(X) Generic ROCK Linux" :) 16:11 < Mike1> senaxl: dietlibc is disabled on generic by default.. 16:11 < senaxl> *g* 16:11 < senaxl> he build with dietlibc support... 16:11 < esden> where? 16:12 < esden> where have you read that 16:12 < Mike1> senaxl: did you at least took the time to look at target/generic/* before making your own stuff? 16:12 < senaxl> when you start the Build script, 16:12 < esden> the only two targets that use dietlibc by default are "dietlibc target" and "boot disks target" 16:12 < Mike1> senaxl: it build the dietlibc _package_ not _with_ dietlibc 16:13 < esden> senaxl: which build script? ./scripts/Build-Target 16:13 < senaxl> esden: yes. 16:13 < esden> paste me more lines of the output to my query 16:14 < senaxl> ok, the next time :) 16:14 < esden> next time? 16:15 < esden> senaxl: we can not help you when you are not providing enough debugging information ... I do not have a glass orb here to look in and see what is going on with your build 16:15 < senaxl> i have canceled the "building" 16:16 < Mike1> so restart it.. 16:16 < esden> so cut and paste the content of the termnal 16:16 < esden> or restart the build 16:16 < senaxl> i know :) 16:17 < esden> or open ./build/<some build directory>/logs/build_target 16:17 < esden> there is the whole output 16:17 < senaxl> ok. 16:18 < esden> ohh it is called ./build/<some build directory>/logs/build_target.log 16:19 < mnemoc> does anyone have a patch for -lattr of 1-acl? 16:21 < Mike1> mnemoc: read query 16:22 < mnemoc> 1-acl has a known issue... 16:22 < mnemoc> it tries to find libacl on host system 16:23 < mnemoc> instead of tool.cross 16:37 < esden> mnemoc: clifford said that he is on it 16:38 < mnemoc> great 16:38 -!- th [~th@thzn.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:57 < rxr> mnemoc: esden I just remembered Cliff about this ;-) 16:58 < rxr> Committed revision 55. 17:02 < esden> huhu rxr 17:03 * -> esden tagging packages with UCLIBC tags 17:05 -!- mnemoc_ [~mnemoc@200.75.27.42] has joined #rocklinux 17:10 < rxr> hi esden 17:10 < rxr> hm: 17:10 < rxr> heap:/home/svn # du -csh * 17:10 < rxr> 8.4M gsmp 17:10 < rxr> 93M rock-linux 17:10 < rxr> 102M total 17:12 < esden> rock is getting big ... or is that an svn overhead 17:14 < mnemoc_> bdb :) 17:16 < rxr> jups bdb transaction stuff 17:16 -!- mnemoc [~mnemoc@200.75.27.21] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:16 < rxr> err by the way this is not a checkout - this are the repositories on the server !!! 17:17 < esden> that is clear 17:18 < blindcoder> rehi 17:18 < blindcoder> WEE 17:18 * blindcoder going to watch CCS 17:18 < blindcoder> be back MUCH later 17:19 < esden> ok ... added UCLIBC tags to 52 packages 17:20 < rxr> It doesn't get this big for a local working copy ... 17:20 < esden> re blindcoder 17:20 < esden> rxr: yes ... but what is about the .svn directorys? 17:25 < rxr> just the usual cache like you have with CVS with the CVS dirs, too. 17:26 < esden> ack 17:27 < rxr> esden: are all the uclib tags already tested ? 17:27 < rxr> or only wild guesses ? 17:27 < esden> guesses based on the DIETLIBC tags 17:27 < esden> I will see if they compile when I am ready creating the uclibc target ;-) 17:28 < esden> it now looks pretty promissing cuz uclibc is supporting native installation and there is an example how to convince gcc to use uclibc by default 17:38 < rxr> the 2.4.21-rc1 kernel is strange it swaps much more - this might be nice for servers - but not for my desktop ... 17:39 < rxr> jackson:~$ free 17:39 < rxr> total used free shared buffers cached 17:39 < rxr> Mem: 514992 498968 16024 0 94972 266320 17:39 < rxr> -/+ buffers/cache: 137676 377316 17:39 < rxr> Swap: 524624 77392 447232 17:39 < rxr> every 10 minutes I do s.th. different half of my desktop apps have to be ript out of the swap :-( 17:39 < rxr> (of course compiling two ROCK targets in the background ...) 17:40 < esden> rxr: so do not wonder ;-) 17:48 < rxr> nope this is a shame - and should be more smooth. 17:48 < rxr> and in fact it was better in 2.4.20 ... 17:50 < esden> hmm ... I can not compare 17:50 < rxr> the box has 377,316 MB of free RAM 17:51 < esden> urgh 17:51 < rxr> if linux would not use 266,320 for disk cache it would not need to swap out 77,392 MB ... 17:51 < esden> so the swapping stuff is a problem ... 17:51 < rxr> jups 17:54 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17:56 < esden> ok off to cinema 17:57 < esden> cu all later 17:57 < rxr> much fun esden 18:12 -!- mnemoc_ is now known as mnemoc 18:14 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:15 < daja77> re 18:15 < Ge0rG> re :] 18:15 < daja77> hi Ge0rG 18:15 < Ge0rG> daja77: :) 18:22 < rxr> re 18:27 < daja77> re rxr 18:35 -!- wartix [~wartix@3-113.240.81.pwd-by.belgacom.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:35 < wartix> hi all 18:48 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090A599.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:49 < kasc> yippie! finally online again! 18:50 < kasc> i urgently need help! anyone awake? 18:51 * Mike1 is awake 18:52 < rxr> kasc: jups 18:52 < kasc> for some weird reason my whole /etc went to /lost+found... could you help me reconstruct it? 19:02 < rxr> ourhgs. Sorry I have not much practice in e2fs hacking sorry. 19:02 < rxr> is the filesystem already checked and consistent? 19:03 < kasc> i checked it an hopefully got most files recovered but i need to move them to the right places 19:04 < kasc> oh, in case i should forgot: whenever i am going to try any 2.5.x kernel again, hit me really hard ;) 19:05 < senaxl> *g* 19:06 < kasc> anyways there are lots of files that i cant imagine what they should be called... 19:10 < rxr> reinstall the sysfiles package and copy back the files you know ... 19:11 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813361.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:11 < tcr> moin all 19:11 < senaxl> hi 19:19 < kasc> rxr: i dont expect that to help much 19:20 < kasc> most files from sysfiles have a rock copyright message in them telling roughly what they should be called 19:22 < kasc> i have a dir with a file called gdk-pixbuf.loaders in it. do you know what the dir should be called? 19:23 < daja77> hi kasc, tcr, Mike1 19:23 < kasc> hi daja77 19:24 < rxr> kasc: no sorry 19:24 < rxr> is your /var/adm/flists still valid 19:24 < rxr> you could gerp in it ... 19:25 < kasc> that would be a good one. at least for the directorys 19:35 < wartix> re hi all :) 19:36 < daja77> hi wartix 19:36 < wartix> what s up daja77 19:37 -!- kasc_ [~kasc@p5090B0B4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:39 < wartix> lol 1 hour for download 975 Mo 19:43 < _NULL_> re 19:48 < rxr> Committed revision 60. 19:49 -!- kasc__ [~kasc@p5090B299.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:51 < kasc__> re 19:52 < _NULL_> re kasc , kasc_ , kasc__ :p 19:52 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090A599.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:52 < daja77> kasc^3 19:52 < _NULL_> cloned kasc 19:53 < daja77> oh no... 19:53 < _NULL_> cruel world. - kasc^3 is too much 19:53 < daja77> ack 19:53 < kasc__> har! har! 19:53 < _NULL_> or are this his multiple identities? 19:54 < _NULL_> (identitaeten) 19:55 < daja77> it is a kascade ;) 19:55 < kasc__> just a totally fscked connection 19:55 < daja77> sure ;) 19:56 < _NULL_> kasc__: why? i thought you're owning DSL? or are the special friends from "club of telekomikers" doing crap again? 19:58 < kasc__> no, i m currently reconstructing my /etc and my pppd doesnt seem to like that 19:58 -!- kasc_ [~kasc@p5090B0B4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:58 < _NULL_> ah. k. 19:59 -!- kasc__ is now known as kasc 19:59 < tcr> moin daja77 19:59 < daja77> O_o what a surprise 20:00 < kasc> btw: there should be a symlink in /etc to the default keymap. what should that link be called? 20:00 < tcr> Huh? 20:00 < tcr> In 1.6 there a /etc/default.keymap symlink 20:00 < tcr> that got removed? 20:01 < kasc> thx 20:01 < kasc> tcr: my /etc got corrupted and went completely into /lost+found 20:01 < tcr> U_u, 20:02 < _NULL_> *lol* now i know why kasc answered to noone "thx" ;p 20:02 < tcr> daja77: Sorry, I've been away... you know better late than never ;) 20:02 < daja77> tcr: ack ;) 20:03 < kasc> and how should the symlink to my timezone should be called? 20:03 < tcr> wait up 20:03 < rxr> /etc/localtime -> ../usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Berlin 20:03 < kasc> thx 20:04 < tcr> Ah right 20:04 < kasc> the link to ROCK-VERSION? 20:04 < rxr> a tip for building ROCK on ReiserFS -> disable tail packing - this should speedup the build to some degree 20:04 < rxr> this is a file 20:04 < rxr> jackson:~$ cat /etc/ROCK-VERSION 20:04 < rxr> ROCK Linux 1.7-snapshot (2003/04/25) 20:05 < daja77> rxr: who needs reiserfs anyway 20:05 < kasc> i have a symlink that points to ROCK-VERSION 20:05 < rxr> daja77: erh? Why shouldn't I need it? It is fast and relyable ... 20:05 < kasc> but i'm sure it shouldnt be called: /lost+found/#130570 ;) 20:05 < tcr> None. Well. Allegdly rsv4 should become quite featurerich 20:05 < daja77> aha, this is new to me 20:05 < rxr> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 37 Apr 25 01:46 ROCK-VERSION 20:05 < rxr> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Apr 25 01:48 VERSION -> ROCK-VERSION 20:05 < kasc> thx 20:06 < tcr> rxr: Nope, it's not reliable. We're talking about rsv3, right? 20:06 < rxr> tcr: jups - and never lost any data 20:06 < tcr> That 20:06 < rxr> which from time to time happend to ext2 20:06 < tcr> That doesnt mean reliable ;) 20:06 < rxr> and it is much faster for my workloads than ext2/ext3 ... 20:07 < rxr> tcr: wow - I guess you have not some proof for this ? 20:07 < tcr> ext3 + htree is actual a very good combination 20:08 < tcr> rxr: Ext2/3 is one of the few filesystems that can guarantee an almost 100% data integry when restoring/reparing (ie. running fsck after corruption) 20:08 < rxr> puh - any you spek about reliability 20:08 < tcr> that's reliability - ?? 20:08 < kasc> now i have a file that i remember controlling who may login via ftp 20:08 < daja77> *looool* https://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/ola-29.04.03-002/ 20:08 < kasc> how should that be called? 20:09 < rxr> tcr: Haeh? It has the same garantee to be uncorrupted after and fscheck tat reiserfs has ... 20:09 < tcr> rxr: No, it hasn't. Mompls 20:09 < rxr> and mompls is what? 20:10 < rxr> a moment pleas maybe .. 20:10 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 20:10 < Mike1> hi blindy 20:10 < daja77> hi blindcoder 20:10 < tcr> rxr: yup, moment please 20:10 < kasc> hi blindcoder 20:10 * daja77 just can't stop laughing 20:12 < _NULL_> re blindy 20:12 < blindcoder> daja77: I don't think that 6 Billion Euros being wasted is funny 20:13 < _NULL_> who wasted money? 20:13 < blindcoder> _NULL_: daja's link 20:13 < daja77> why not, do you remember all those assholes saying let's outsource to save money 20:13 < daja77> they had a hall on cebit for that bullshit 20:13 < _NULL_> blindcoder: can't open it... 20:14 < blindcoder> daja77: yes. and in the process killing IT-Jobs 20:14 < tcr> rxr: https://www.dignatz.de/d/spotlight/artikel/russisches_roulette_linux-mag_20020605_001.html 20:14 < _NULL_> (because i'm still compiling X and kde) 20:14 < blindcoder> _NULL_: 6 Billion Euro wasted due to bad Outsourcing 20:14 < blindcoder> _NULL_: what about w3m? lynx? telnet? 20:14 < tcr> telnet, blindcoder ;-D 20:14 < _NULL_> blindcoder: hm... bad... 20:15 < blindcoder> daja77: jobs that are vital to people like me bein "Fachinformatiker" 20:15 < daja77> blindcoder: but I found a funnier news on heise https://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/odi-29.04.03-000/ 20:15 < blindcoder> sorry, _I_ can't laugh about it.. only shake my head 20:15 < daja77> die sco die, for ever 20:15 * _NULL_ points to www.dotcomtod.de (or .com???) 20:16 * tcr is away: shower 20:16 * daja77 still has a crapware 7 around here 20:17 < rxr> puh - this articles is pure brain-fuck ... 20:17 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-178-76.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:17 < holyolli> moin 20:17 < blindcoder> rxr: hehe, I couldn't put it better :) 20:17 < blindcoder> but what do you expect from heise? 20:18 < _NULL_> hi holyolli ! 20:18 < holyolli> hi null 20:18 < daja77> rxr: which one 20:18 < daja77> hi holyolli 20:18 < blindcoder> quote from heise: "New Virus found in Linux-kernel. Codename: ptrace" 20:18 < kasc> i have a file with: set ask askcc append dot save crt in it. Does anyone know how that should be called? 20:18 < daja77> lol 20:19 < blindcoder> daja77: indeed 20:20 < daja77> blindcoder: the braindead winlusers need such news, to point a finger to lin -> you have viruses too, why should I switch... 20:21 < blindcoder> daja77: yeah. but that's been the moment I finally abandoned anything printed by heise (ct, iX) 20:21 < daja77> hmm telepolis is quite nice 20:21 < blindcoder> not that I bought it before, I just borrowed it, but I totally tsope reading it now 20:21 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-178-76.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Client Quit) 20:22 < daja77> blindcoder: you need a filter for reading heise, but I don't know better magazines >_< 20:22 < blindcoder> daja77: but I know somethign better to do: watching Anime :) much more fun 20:23 * blindcoder going there right now 20:23 < blindcoder> goo night! 20:23 < daja77> gn8 blindcoder 20:23 < _NULL_> gnu8 blindcoder 20:23 < _NULL_> aeh. gn8 even 20:25 < kasc> gn8 blindcoder 20:25 < daja77> _NULL_: gnu8 is sweet you know 20:25 < _NULL_> it was a typo 20:26 < daja77> hell yeah, but some typos are really great 20:26 < _NULL_> :p 20:26 < _NULL_> night - GPL :p 20:27 < rxr> daja77: the linux magatin link above ... 20:30 * rxr needs a new box - rock builds take too long ... 20:31 < daja77> ahem rxr didn't you say 2 new boxes... 20:44 < tcr> rxr: It is 20:44 < tcr> ? 20:45 -!- wartix [~wartix@3-113.240.81.pwd-by.belgacom.net] has left #rocklinux () 20:48 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dialin-145-254-163-015.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:49 < _NULL_> hi capchaos :) 20:49 < capchaos> hey owly 21:02 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082D8F1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:02 < tsa> hi all 21:03 < _NULL_> hi tsa 21:25 < rxr> hi tsa 21:26 < rxr> Committed revision 62. 21:33 < tsa> rxr: can you please add cksums to your e17 packages? 21:33 < tsa> i've had a build abort several times because all of them were incomplete checkouts.. 21:34 * tsa sending mail to the list. 21:36 < rxr> tsa: no this is not possible for cvs checkouts 21:37 < rxr> the checksum is different on every box - depending on the current random date, time, user, ... 21:38 < tcr> Hmm, then rather use snapshots that're defined 21:38 < tfing> rxr: doesn't the date in the cvs:// line assure that everyone get the same version ? 21:38 < tsa> rxr: ..the date in the cvs url..? 21:38 < tsa> you don't do cvs "head" checkouts.. 21:38 < tsa> so the cksum should be reproduceable. 21:38 < rxr> jups but the date of the files in your filesystem 21:39 < tsa> NAME 21:39 < tsa> cksum - checksum and count the bytes in a file 21:39 < tsa> SYNOPSIS 21:39 < tsa> cksum [OPTION]... [FILE]... 21:39 < tsa> DESCRIPTION 21:39 < tsa> Print CRC checksum and byte counts of each FILE. 21:39 < tsa> -> byte counts of each FILE <- 21:39 < tsa> user/group don't affect cksum generation 21:39 * rxr needs to check how it is implemented 21:40 < tcr> Neither ctime, utime, atime 21:40 < tsa> ok, thx. 21:40 < tcr> utime? mtime it's called, i think 21:40 < tfing> btw, you can't put a snapshot name in the cvs:// line 21:40 < rxr> but I guess it is implemented much easier - and we had this everyone had another checksum - since then we do not do the checksumming of cvs checkouts anymore ... 21:42 -!- rolla [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:43 < rxr> tsa: read the source - it is the checksum of the uncompressed file - not the deflated indifidual files 21:44 -!- dreamind [dreamind@skeeter.dreamind.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:44 < rxr> so all the user/group *time informations are in the tar and are different 21:44 < rxr> sure we could do a chown -R root:root the-checkout and touch them with a special date. - But I guess there will still be differencies ... 21:45 < rxr> anyway - use the mirrors if unsure ... 21:45 < tsa> the broken files came from a mirror.. 21:45 < tsa> ..although i don't remember which one it was.. 21:46 < rxr> hm - then Cliff might have an incomplete checkout (maybe due to his slow ISDN line ...) 21:49 * praenti back 21:49 < praenti> hi everybody 21:49 < _NULL_> hi praenti 21:49 < praenti> did anybody a stack smashing protector build in the last few months? 21:50 < praenti> hi _NULL_ 21:50 < tsa> praenti: i know Be-El tried to do one and failed.. 21:51 < tsa> mompl. 21:51 < praenti> tsa: looks like a lot of packages have problems with a pam bug 21:51 < rxr> praenti: there was reported some link problem with application using ld to link instead of gcc itself 21:52 < praenti> if you compile pam with stack protection you always get a undefinied reference __guard when you use s.th from the pam lib 21:52 < tsa> <Be-El> der pam-patch ist definitiv noch nicht das wahre 21:52 -!- Be-El [be-el@p5082BEF3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:52 < Be-El> hi ppl 21:52 < tsa> ;-) 21:52 < tcr> praenti: patch has been sent fixing that 21:52 < praenti> hi Be-El 21:52 < rxr> praenti: jups known problem - see list 21:52 < tsa> how does the stack-protector stuff work? 21:54 < Be-El> btw...the pam-patch to make it work with the stack-protector is broken.... 21:54 < tcr> tsa: It's briefly described on the webpage iirc 21:54 < Be-El> it does not set the symlinks for the shared objects, breaking the build as soon as -lpam is used 21:55 < praenti> ok. for the moment i disabled stack protector for pam 21:56 < praenti> you can say that this can be a security hole. and perhaps you are right :-( 21:56 < praenti> but my build continues 21:56 < tcr> I personally don't see any point in that stack protector anyway... I only see the disadvantage that it might cause trouble with debugging/coding 21:58 < rxr> tcr: you try to confince us of some FS useage and do not see any point in the SSP ... 21:58 * rxr *wondering* 21:59 < tcr> rxr: you try to convince us of my dumbness and do not see that I wrote 'personally' ;) 22:02 < rxr> no problem - have fun ;-) 22:04 < Be-El> someone around with a (more or less) finished build ? 22:05 * tcr grins 22:07 < rxr> Be-El: yes, why ? 22:07 < Be-El> the --with-ldap option in php need the directory appended 22:07 < Be-El> .oO ( at least the last time i did a build..... ) 22:11 < rxr> hm - php and ldap might not be in my desktop build 22:11 < rxr> do you need some info - or is this a request do fix s.th. there ? ;-) 22:12 < Be-El> nope, it a request to find someone who tests the patch and might send it to the mailing list 22:12 < Be-El> since i got no active build to test it... 22:13 < rxr> ah - sure send it over ;-) 22:13 * rxr merging anthing .... 22:13 < Be-El> diff -r1.7 php.conf 22:13 < Be-El> 38c38 22:13 < Be-El> < [ "$ROCKCFG_PKG_PHP_openldap" = 1 ] && var_append extraconfopt " " "--with-ldap" 22:13 < Be-El> --- 22:13 < Be-El> > [ "$ROCKCFG_PKG_PHP_openldap" = 1 ] && var_append extraconfopt " " "--with-ldap=/opt/openldap" 22:14 * tsa considers a patch removing package/rene/* ;-) 22:15 < rxr> tcr: not "applying" bug _"merging"_ such a stuff will be merged into /dev/null ... 22:15 < rxr> er s/tcr/tsa/ 22:16 < tsa> hehe 22:16 < rxr> hm - the hardcoded path is not that perfect 22:16 < Be-El> i know, but there's no config option for openldap yet 22:16 < rxr> openldap should announce the path and such a variable could be used there ... 22:16 < rxr> but for now this might be ok ;-) 22:17 < rxr> ;-) No no unecessary options - we have such a propagation already in mysql or so I think ... 22:17 * rxr need to take a look after rewriting some kernel patches 22:19 < dreamind> Hi 22:25 < tcr> Ok, guys, I'm gonna sleep now. Cu 22:25 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813361.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("gn8 all") 22:32 < praenti> ok. also sleeping 22:32 < praenti> gn8 22:33 < daja77> gn8 praenti 22:33 < Be-El> cu praenti 22:44 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dialin-145-254-163-015.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("n8") 22:53 < rxr> Be-El: https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk/package/clifford/mysql/mysql.conf 22:53 < rxr> is what I mean with propagating config flags ;-) 23:06 < _NULL_> gn8 23:07 < Be-El> hmm...does the current rock put all aclocal files into a single directory ? 23:08 < rxr> Committed revision 68. 23:10 * Mike1 realizes that rxr has an obsession with revisions... 23:15 < daja77> Mike1: hello 23:31 -!- mnemoc [~mnemoc@200.75.27.42] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:31 -!- dreamind [dreamind@skeeter.dreamind.de] has quit ("Client exiting") 23:38 < Mike1> hi daja77 23:42 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 23:47 < rxr> Mike1: nope o obsession - simply working to get stable out ... 23:47 < rxr> s/ o / no / 23:48 < Mike1> rxr: excellent :) 23:49 < Mike1> rxr: btw congratulations for the Maintainence Master rxr :) 23:52 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux 23:53 < armijn> re 23:53 < daja77> hey armijn here, welcome 23:53 < Mike1> wb mr drunk 23:53 < armijn> mr drunk? 23:53 < Mike1> i mean hi armijn :) 23:53 < armijn> excuse me? 23:53 < Mike1> armijn: just kidding :) 23:53 < armijn> I hope so... 23:53 < daja77> armijn: how is life? 23:53 < armijn> otherwise I really got to worry about my reputation 23:54 < armijn> I spent all day battling XP 23:54 < armijn> new machine, needed to make it dual boot 23:54 < daja77> *argh* why that 23:54 < armijn> Red Hat 9 installed flawlesly 23:54 < daja77> hehe really? 23:54 < armijn> I'm preparing a machine, so we can make images for it to install on the other 9 machines 23:55 < armijn> with ghost 23:55 < daja77> man kickstart 23:55 < armijn> yeah, Red Hat was no problem at all 23:55 < armijn> XP can't be installed with RH kickstart 23:55 < daja77> d'oh yes 23:55 < armijn> when we bought the machines it was agreed they would be dual boot 23:56 < daja77> :( 23:56 < armijn> not bad for a lab that was initially funded by Microsoft ;-) 23:56 < daja77> *lol* 23:56 < armijn> contract ended nearly 2 years ago, so... 23:56 < armijn> and these machines aren't paid for by MS 23:57 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:58 * daja77 hates dual boot pools, if you need a ssh connection to one of the machines, they're all running windows >_< --- Log closed Wed Apr 30 00:00:01 2003