--- Log opened Sat May 03 00:00:08 2003
--- Day changed Sat May 03 2003
00:01 < daja77> oh new day
00:01 < daja77> wtf
00:01 < mnemoc> Mike1: libattr* shall be on build/*/root/usr/lib or in /usr/lib?
00:02 < Mike1> both.
00:02 < mnemoc> :o
00:03 < Mike1> mnemoc: you need it to be installed on your system.
00:03 < Mike1> and you need the build to place it in build/*/root/usr/lib
00:03 < mnemoc> :| ... hope this to change before 2.0
00:04 < Mike1> mnemoc: ack.
00:10 < LocalHero> Need to get some sleep, cya
00:10 < daja77> weee since I am using -longtimeout my downloads do not break anymor
00:11 < daja77> gn8 LocalHero
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00:18 < daja77> hey jhidalgo
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00:20 < _NULL_> re
00:20 < Mike1> wb _NULL_
00:21 < daja77> yeah wb
00:23 < mnemoc> as part of the internationalization project... waht re and wb means?
00:23 < Mike1> mnemoc: bienvenido (a) de vuelta
00:24 < mnemoc> wellcome back :(
00:24 < mnemoc> and re?
00:24 < daja77> returns
00:25 < mnemoc> why do you use 'returns' as a 'greeting'?
00:25 < Mike1> mnemoc: ack.
00:26 < mnemoc> some kind of "hello!! i'm back"?
00:26 < daja77> mnemoc: cos we like it :P
00:26 < mnemoc> :D
00:26 < Mike1> mnemoc: simply, your way is less geeky.
00:27 < Mike1> it would loose the original touch :)
00:27 < mnemoc> i'll have to use 're'
00:28 < daja77> mnemoc: yes
00:28 < Mike1> mnemoc: 5p33k|ng 1337 |5 4150 41103d.
00:28 < Mike1>  4110w3d*
00:30 < mnemoc> i couldn't get the last two words :|
00:30 < Mike1> mnemoc: speaking leet is also allowed :)
00:30 < mnemoc> also allowed
00:30 < Mike1> ack :)
00:31 < mnemoc> that was hard :-(
00:31 < mnemoc> i saw 1 as i :\
00:32 < Mike1> 411 y0u h4v3 70 d0 |5 pr4c7|c3
00:32 < _NULL_> wtf?
00:33 < mnemoc> Mike1: | 4150 n33d 1|b4c1 0n /usr/lib?
00:34 < mnemoc> damn coreuitls!!!
00:34 < Mike1> | d0n'7 7h|nk s0
00:34 < Mike1> mnemoc: h4v|ng fun?
00:34 < mnemoc> now i need to update local autoconf
00:34 < jhidalgo> is openpgp in rock ?
00:34 < mnemoc> no
00:34 < mnemoc> ls: package/*/*pgp*: No such file or directory
00:34 < jhidalgo> ;-<
00:35 < mnemoc> add it to jose's repos. ;-)
00:36 < jhidalgo> no!, jose is to lame to do that! ;-<,  but i can!
00:37 < mnemoc> my second name is jose :|
00:39 < jhidalgo> ups!, I didn't knew!
00:39 < mnemoc> ;-) i use to hide it
00:40 < mnemoc> you cant
00:40 < jhidalgo> mnemoc: /whois jhidalgo ;->
00:40 < mnemoc> to lame ;)
00:43 * daja77 votes to remove emacs ackage >:->
00:43 < daja77> package even
00:44 < mnemoc> why?
00:44 < daja77> it wastes my low bandwith
00:45 < mnemoc> use pkgsel to remove it from your config
00:46 < daja77> sure, I know, I just like to start a flame war right now
00:46 < mnemoc> my own war is again stage 1 :|
00:46 < mnemoc> against
00:47 < daja77> how come?
00:47 < mnemoc> having that much packages on stage 1 gives too many restrictions to the local system
00:48 < daja77> huh?
00:48 < mnemoc> thanks to coreuitls now i need libattr and update autoconf
00:49 < daja77> :(
00:49 < mnemoc> thats not good for massification of 2.0
00:51 < daja77> massification what a horrible thought
00:51 < mnemoc> :-\
01:10 * daja77 jumps a bit around
01:10 < jhidalgo> gpg did build without problems!, not i can find nc !   :-<
01:11 < mnemoc> doh
01:15 < jhidalgo> please add netcat !
01:16 < mnemoc> package/esden/netcat here it is
01:16 < Mike1> jhidalgo: make a list of all the packages you would like to see included on rock and mail it mike@rocklinux.org , they will be included _after_ 2.0 release
01:23 < jhidalgo> oky!
01:24 < Mike1> jhidalgo: note that i said _after_ 2.0 release
01:28 < jhidalgo> yep!
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01:37 < daja77> Lorini: O_o
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01:39 < Lorini> re - now im gonna stay ;)
01:39 < Mike1> Lorini: promissE?
01:39 < Lorini> hehe.. lets say: my virtual ego will stay here
01:40 < Mike1> Lorini: good
01:40 < Lorini> my body will now move to bed *g*
01:40 < daja77> virtual ego? what is with your real ego
01:40 < daja77> oh damn
01:40 < Lorini> my real ego is phoning ..
01:42 < daja77> hehe as always
01:42 < Mike1> grr
01:44 * daja77 continues
01:44 < daja77> reading
01:55 < mnemoc> there is any intention of a 'trusted rocklinux' target?
01:57 < Mike1> ack.
01:57 < mnemoc> what could that ack means?
01:57 < mnemoc> you have one?
01:59 < mnemoc> s,\(.*\),do \1,
02:09 < zer0_o> n8 all =)
02:09 < mnemoc> n8
02:09 < zer0_o> n8 Mike1 , n8 _NULL_
02:09 < mnemoc> did you get your answer?
02:10 < mnemoc> (mount -t nfs)
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02:10 < mnemoc> :\
02:18 < jhidalgo> anybody here knows/remember how to list the packages in aix ?
02:19 < daja77> gn8 you all
02:20 < mnemoc> gn8
02:29 < Mike1> Gute Nacht alles / Good Night all / Buenas Noches a todos
02:34 < mnemoc> n8
02:45 < jhidalgo> for those who care: to list the filesets(packages) in aix: lslpp
03:14 < mnemoc> jhidalgo: are you awake?
03:14 < mnemoc> which package includes makeinfo?
03:17 < jhidalgo> mnemoc: in aix ?
03:17 < mnemoc> in rock ;)
03:18 < mnemoc> grep makeinfo /var/adm/flist/*
03:18 < mnemoc> pleeease
03:19 < jhidalgo> textinfo
03:20 < mnemoc> thanks
03:20 < jhidalgo> de nada señorito!
03:20 < mnemoc> porque señorito? :(
03:28 < jhidalgo> diay no se!, ya me estoy alegrando! estaba puteado!
03:30 < mnemoc> :o
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09:42 < rxr> re
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09:46 < kasc> moin
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09:47 < Lorini> da sind ja glatt schon welche wach um die zeit
09:47 < Lorini> wahnsinn
09:48 < rxr> moin kasc Lorini
09:49 < kasc> re
09:49 < Lorini> moin @ all
09:49 < kasc> Lorini: 'türlich. Ist ja auch schon fast Mittag, also mindestens Zeit für's Frühstück ;)
09:50 < Lorini> kasc: uah.. normalerweise würd ich noch mindestens 3 stunden pennen, wenn mich nicht der sturm geweckt hätte
09:52 < kasc> bei mir ists eher der Hunger, der mich ausm Bett treibt *g*
09:53 < Lorini> hehe
09:53 < Lorini> ok das war der grund, warum ich nicht mehr wieder eingeschlafen bin, ich gebs ja zu
09:55 < kasc> hehe
10:23 < _NULL_> morning
10:30 < netrunner_> moin
10:59 < Lorini> << tired
11:08 < rxr> Lorini: ? Huh? Any chance you ment echo "tired" > /dev/Lorini ? ;-)
11:10 < _NULL_> rxr: hi.
11:13 < Lorini> *g*
11:13 * Lorini away now
11:14 < Lorini> i hate shopping
11:28 < daja77> Lorini: ack
11:28 < daja77> moin
11:33 < daja77> WEEEE only two download errors, kasc are you around?
11:36 < daja77> kasc: ping
11:44 < rxr> hi _NULL_
11:44 < daja77> hi rxr
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11:45 < LocalHero> Hi all
11:45 < daja77> hey Lorini
11:45 < daja77> damn
11:45 < daja77> hey LocalHero
11:46 < _NULL_> hi LocalHero
11:46 < daja77> well I'm gonna start the build without these two packages...
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11:59 < kasc> daja77: pong
12:00 < daja77> kasc: i couldn't download openal and smpeg
12:01 < kasc> did you use a mirror?
12:01 < daja77> yes
12:02 < daja77> it didn't work without a mirror as well
12:02 < kasc> maybe clifford hasnt prepared the tarballs yet or didnt notice he'll have to although i told him via mail...
12:03 < daja77> the first time I had only two download errors ;)
12:03 < kasc> download is only possible via cvs with password, but i have prepared the tarballs. unfortunately i dont have a webserver to put them on
12:04 < daja77> dcc?
12:06 < kasc> doesnt work?
12:06 < kasc> ah :)
12:07 < daja77> sorry I was blind ;)
12:07 < kasc> hehe
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12:17 < daja77> thx kasc
12:18 < kasc> np
12:20 < zer0_o> hi all
12:20 < kasc> hi zer0_o
12:20 < zer0_o> i've got a question
12:21 < daja77> hi zer0_o
12:21 < zer0_o> is there a possibility to use nfs over ssh? or is there any other secure nfs-like networkfilessystem?
12:22 < daja77> O_o none I would know
12:23 < zer0_o> hm..
12:23 < kasc> zer0_o: have a look at your kernel sources. AFAIR there are some
12:23 < zer0_o> kasc: good idea...
12:23 < daja77> nfs like?
12:24 < kasc> nfs via ssh should work when using tcp connetions with nfs (this also is referred to in the kernel source)
12:24 < daja77> no thx it is already slow without crytography
12:25 < kasc> hehe
12:25 < daja77> zer0_o: have you ever tried afs?
12:26 < zer0_o> no..
12:26 < zer0_o> i'm just about learning nfs.. donno what else exist..
12:26 < daja77> it is more difficult than nfs but cool in a way http://www.openafs.org
12:27 < zer0_o> the possibilities are amazing =) i love this networkfilesystem stuff =)
12:28 < kasc> zer0_o: have you had a look at adidas networking then?
12:29 < zer0_o> kasc: no..
12:30 < zer0_o> should i have a look then?
12:30 < kasc> its the most portable filesystem that can be called networkable ;)
12:31 < zer0_o> is it free ?
12:32 < kasc> of course
12:32 < kasc> you will have to get or generate your bitbuckets yourself, tho
12:33 < zer0_o> what is the homepage? google can't find anything usable.. =(
12:33 < kasc> i'm not sure if there is a RFC about it
12:35 < daja77> hmmm afs has been proted to several platforms
12:35 < kasc> in fact it consists of you taring and dd'ing your data to suitable sizes, then putting it on a floppy disc, running to your other box (hence the name) and extracting it ;)
12:36 < kasc> you can drastically improve throughput by using more then one bitbucket and/or carriers ;)
12:37 < Lorini> re
12:37 < kasc> wb Lorini
12:37 < Lorini> i still hate shopping
12:37 < Lorini> :)
12:39 < daja77> wb Lorini , I agreee
12:43 < Lorini> hi daja, still work to do?
12:44 < daja77> ahem yes you can say that, but I et the computer work
12:44 < daja77> let
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12:45 < Lorini> *g* i wish my computer would do that..
12:46 * daja77 building rock linux *g*
12:46 < Lorini> *g*
12:47 < Lorini> im gonna have lunch now.. or is it dinner?
12:47 < Lorini> jedenfalls geh ich mittagessen :)
12:49 < daja77> lunch
12:50 < Lorini> thx :)
12:57 < kasc> Lorini: depends on how long you are going to eat *g*
12:57 < daja77> kasc: lol we are not in france
12:58 * kasc doesnt mind eating all day ;)
12:59 < daja77> it can be fun if you have some nice women around...
12:59 < kasc> yep
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13:00 < Lorini> oh hm
13:00 < daja77> Lorini: wanna join *g*
13:01 < Lorini> well
13:01 < Lorini> hm
13:01 < Lorini> lol
13:01 < Lorini> in verbindung mit einem großen bett und viel sex hab ich nix gegen nen ganzen tag lang futtern :)
13:02 < kasc> der Deal klingt fair *fg*
13:02 < daja77> o_O sounds interesting...
13:02 < daja77> kasc: yeah if she cooks...
13:02 < Lorini> she?
13:02 < Lorini> macho
13:02 < daja77> well depends maybe I cook better...
13:02 < Lorini> lol
13:03 < Lorini> why cook?
13:03 < daja77> you mean order food?
13:03 < Lorini> i mean some grapes, strawberries.. something like this :)
13:04 < daja77> the whole day, nooo
13:04 < Lorini> lol
13:05 < daja77> well I'm off now, shopping and stuff >_<
13:05 < Lorini> have fun
13:05 < daja77> *argh*
13:05 < Lorini> kasc: seems now we have to test it alone ;)
13:06 < daja77> lol have fun with the food and so...
13:06 < kasc> hehe
13:06 < kasc> bei mir oder bei dir? *lol*
13:07 < Lorini> kommt drauf an.. wie groß is dein bett? *g*
13:07 < Lorini> ähm ich meinte deine küche
13:07 < Lorini> ;)
13:07 < kasc> na was denn nu? *g* Bett oder Küche?
13:08 < Lorini> ich wette beides is größer als bei mir :)
13:08 < kasc> wie groß ist denn beides bei dir?
13:08 < daja77> omg are you complicated
13:08 < Lorini> ähm. die küche is arschklein, ich teile sie mit 2 leuten und wir haben keinen backofen. das bett is auch klein aber zur not groß genug ;)
13:09 < Lorini> daja77: leave us alone ;)
13:09 * daja77 has a 10m^2 kitchen and a double bed :p
13:09 < Lorini> uh
13:09 < Lorini> hm
13:09 < Lorini> *think*
13:09 < Lorini> well, kasc, sorry
13:09 < kasc> lol
13:09 < Lorini> im gonne take daja :)
13:09 < daja77> lol
13:10 < daja77> Lorini: you are easy to take :p
13:10 < kasc> you dont know how large my bed and kitchen is, yet ;-P
13:10 < Lorini> daja77: is that a problem? :)
13:10 < daja77> Lorini: nah of course not
13:11 < Lorini> hm wisst ihr was.. wenn ihr beide so toll seid, warum dann kein dreier?
13:11 < Lorini> mal bei dem, mal bei dem.. na? *g*
13:11 < daja77> Lorini: nope I know kasc...
13:11 < Lorini> hmpf
13:11 < kasc> wenn daja dabei kocht *fg*
13:11 < Lorini> daja77: you are not so easy to take, i guess..
13:12 < daja77> Lorini: indeed
13:12 < Lorini> cool :)
13:14 < kasc> so, bin dann auch mal einkaufen...
13:14 < _NULL_> einkaufstag?
13:14 < Lorini> kasc: haha!
13:14 < Lorini> viel spaß *fg*
13:15 < daja77> _NULL_: yes
13:15 < _NULL_> daja77: hm. k.
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13:15 < _NULL_> hi zer0_o
13:15 < zer0_o> hi _NULL_
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13:46 < rxr> Committed revision 88.
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14:01 < rxr> Committed revision 91.
14:03 < rxr> Committed revision 92.
14:03 < rxr> cu later ;-)
14:06 < n00kie> bye rxr
14:13 < LocalHero> Wouldnt it be nice to have a rockcluster doing nightly builds?
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14:28 < netrunner> that rocklinux has seen hell - third device broken during build :(
14:40 < daja77> *argh* drock build breaks
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14:43 < LocalHero> cya all
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15:19 < kasc> re
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15:26 < zer0_o> i've got a strange problem with mplayer, when i open a movie, it opens a second videowindow, and i can't press buttons anymore.. how can i fix that?
15:26 < zer0_o> i don't really like mplayer
15:58 < daja77> re
16:00 < zer0_o> re
16:00 < zer0_o> deja, what videoplayer do you use ?
16:01 < daja77> mplayer
16:01 < zer0_o> =( mplayer doesnt work fine ..
16:01 < daja77> try xine
16:01 < zer0_o> and xine cannot be compiled..
16:02 < daja77> why not?
16:02 < zer0_o> i don't know..
16:02 < zer0_o> hm, just a sec
16:02 < zer0_o> No available skin found. Say goodbye.
16:02 < daja77> anyone has a gem package for the new autconf you now need to get rock compiled?
16:03 < zer0_o> no..
16:04 < daja77> damn I'll need some tweaking cos I need that build >_<
16:05 < zer0_o> deja, when i open a movie with mplayer, it opens a second videowindow, and i can't press buttons anymore.. but the movie is displayed...
16:05 < zer0_o> why?
16:06 < daja77> dunno, haven't tested the latest release myself
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16:22 < daja77> anyone managed to compile current cvs
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16:23 < kasc_> re
16:27 < rxr> re
16:30 < daja77> rxr: I checked out cvs yesterday but the build still fails
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16:34 < rxr> daja77: you mean some acl attr issue ?
16:35 < rxr> are you sure you got the fixes for this ?
16:35 < daja77> according to cliffords mail I should have them
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16:36 < rxr> daja77: and during which package does it fail ?
16:38 < daja77> well the whole build stops when switching to stage 2, saying scripts/Create-Links cannot be found
16:38 < daja77> I think coreutils broke before, checking that
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16:40 < daja77> sorry I was wrong
16:41 < daja77> acl broke due linker error
16:41 < daja77> coreutils broke due old autoconf
16:41 < daja77> scripts/Create-Links complaining about missing ln command
16:43 < rxr> hm
16:43 < rxr> and you are sure you used the latest source ?
16:44 < daja77> hmm I checked out yesterday aroud 16:00
16:44 < daja77> around
16:44 < rxr> hm
16:44 < rxr> I merged the changes into my tree some hours ago ...
16:45 < rxr> acording to the .desc files attr and acl are not build in 0-4 anymore - only in 5 and 9
16:45 < rxr> so you seem to use outdated files.
16:46 < rxr> the best is to switch to my svn tree - it will be the 2.0 stable tree in some weeks anyway ... *g*
16:46 < daja77> *hmpf*
16:46 < daja77> how do I do this?
16:46 < rxr> or redo a cvs checkout
16:47 < rxr> attr and acl are now build first in stage5 so there is s.th. wron in your build ...
16:47 < daja77> yeah sure, but how do I get your tree
16:47 < rxr> using cvs the best would be a clean checkout and then moving the build download src* and config dirs into the new tree ...
16:47 < rxr> s/cvs/svn/
16:47 < rxr> sorry ...
16:48 < daja77> svn O_o
16:48 < rxr> when you installed subversion, do a:
16:48 < rxr> svn co http://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk
16:49 * rxr plugging the CRT into a test box cu
16:51 < daja77> subversion is a cvs addon?
16:53 < rxr> no a cvs replacement because cvs sucks so much ...
16:53 < rxr> http://subversion.tigris.org/
16:54 < rxr> or join #svn ;-)
16:54 < daja77> btw googling for svn is fun
16:57 < daja77> rxr: do you have a gem package for svn?
16:59 < rxr> hm - my gem packages depends on apache 2.0 and the bdb cleanups
17:00 < rxr> it would be eaiser if you do a ./scripts/Build-Pkg subversion into your running system - or extract and build is quickly yourself ...
17:01 < daja77> ok
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17:28 < esden> hi all
17:28 < daja77> ho esden
17:31 < Lorini_> hiho
17:31 < daja77> wb Lorini_
17:31 < Lorini_> re :)
17:31 -!- Lorini_ is now known as Lorini
17:33 < Lorini> toll jetzt muss ich schon videoabende absagen
17:33 < Lorini> *hmpf*
17:33 < daja77> why?
17:34 < esden> Lorini: why?
17:36 < Lorini> because my room looks like a bomb has come down and i have to clean it up..
17:36 < daja77> lol reads as if you are talking about my flat
17:38 < Lorini> i wanna do that since wednesday last week (!) and korni is already laughing at me
17:38 < daja77> hmm /me laughs too
17:39 < Lorini> great :)
17:39 < _NULL_> hi esden
17:50 < esden> ok LocalHero added to the gallery ;-)
17:50 * daja77 looks
17:53 < daja77> hehe btw you should fix your not available picture ;)
17:55 < rxr> hm tcr is "1987-01-08" and student? can this be possible ?
17:56 < daja77> rxr: student can be schüler in german
17:57 < rxr> hm - naja ....
17:57 < rxr> should be changed into pupil ...
17:57 < rxr> strange how many people claim to do SPARC ...
17:57 < daja77> hehe yeah I noticed
17:57 < esden> Alessandro Ferrari added now too
17:58 < rxr> esden: please add SPARC/UltraSPARC port to me
17:58 < rxr> , too
17:58 < esden> rxr: ack
17:58 < rxr> err and PowerPC ;-)
17:58 < rxr> and 2.0 stable maintainer when you are at it ;-)
17:59 < rxr> so me is away - getting soem food
18:00 < rxr> tonight I'll most probably release 2.0.0-beta (when no new showstopper appear) - I already rebuilt it four times ...
18:00 < rxr> cu later
18:01 < daja77> rxr: have fun will build your tree if download finishes
18:03 < esden> rxr: updated rout record
18:07 < rxr> daja77: I hope it does more usefull things - but I'll also configure an autotomated regression test this night - and then I'll see if there are still problems with attr and acl
18:08 < rxr> my current builds are all in a current 2.0 system incl. those packages ...
18:09 * daja77 hopes too, he needs a running rock soon
18:10 -!- mnemoc [~mnemoc@200.75.27.18] has joined #rocklinux
18:12 < daja77> wb mnemoc
18:12 < mnemoc> hi daja77
18:12 < _NULL_> hi mnemoc
18:12 < mnemoc> hi all
18:12 < daja77> hehe I've seen your picture
18:12 < mnemoc> :(
18:12 < daja77> don't like it?
18:12 < mnemoc> i couldn't found any better :(
18:13 < mnemoc> hate ties :\
18:13 < Lorini> mnemoc: let me tell you: you are sweet ;)
18:13 < mnemoc> and have 4 years ;)
18:13 < mnemoc> thanks lorini :)
18:13 < daja77> Lorini: sliming again *g*
18:13 < Lorini> lol
18:13 < Lorini> daja77: scht
18:14 < mnemoc> :o
18:14 < Lorini> mnemoc: dont trust daja
18:14 < Lorini> im honest
18:14 * daja77 laughs
18:14 < mnemoc> it's an honor to hear that, lorini
18:15 < Lorini> daja77: stop laughing
18:15 < daja77> hehe yeah mnemoc your are sweet
18:15 < daja77> Lorini: at your command
18:15 * daja77 stops
18:15 < Lorini> wow it works
18:15 < mnemoc> :|
18:15 < rxr> Committed revision 97.
18:16 < rxr> but now I'm off (finally)
18:16 < Lorini> daja77: buy me some flowers
18:16 < daja77> do I have to recheckout now?
18:16 < daja77> Lorini: nope the florist have closed their shops
18:16 < rxr> daja77: simply do "svn up" in your tree ;-)
18:17 < daja77> ok
18:17 < mnemoc> 'love to' check out .cache files
18:17 < rxr> and it will be (should be) much much faster than cvs ;-)
18:17 < daja77> it is slower now, but that might be connect to your server
18:17 < rxr> so have fun - /me back in some hours
18:17 < daja77> ok
18:18 < daja77> Lorini: something else to do?
18:18 < Lorini> hehe
18:18 < Lorini> well as i told you i have to clean up my room....
18:19 < daja77> do it lazy girl!
18:19 < Lorini> hm i thought maybe YOU could do it.. :)
18:19 < daja77> no way
18:19 < Lorini> pff
18:19 < Lorini> schöner kavalier..
18:20 < daja77> well a relationship with you would be too much work for me ;)
18:20 * Lorini is now cleaning her hamster's cage
18:20 < Lorini> lol
18:20 * Lorini is now cleaning her hamster's cage and schmolling because of the beleidigung
18:21 < daja77> lol
18:21 * daja77 never insulted anyone today
18:22 < Lorini> :)
18:22 < Lorini> im sure that was not a compliment :)
18:23 < daja77> maybe not, but you should face the truth
18:24 < daja77> ...adding the fact that you can't calculate due your profession...
18:24 < Lorini> .. face the truth!
18:24 < daja77> hehe yeah
18:24 < Lorini> im not gonna talk to you for at least a week or so
18:24 < daja77> oh shit
18:25 < Lorini> *waiting for another "compliment"*
18:27 < daja77> you are brighter than the angels in your quit message *g*
18:27 < Lorini> LOL
18:27 < Lorini> das war gut :)
18:28 < Lorini> daja77: im gonna make this topic in another chan, ok?
18:28 < Lorini> this wonderful compliment
18:28 < daja77> Lorini: where?
18:28 < Lorini> *g*
18:31 < esden> re
18:32 < Lorini> reh
18:32 * -> esden looking forward to the Rock Linux developer meeting
18:32 < _NULL_> wb esden
18:32 < daja77> esden: do you think I should go there?
18:32 < esden> daja77: sure ...
18:32 < esden> _NULL_: re ;-)
18:33 < daja77> esden: what are the dots telling me
18:34 < esden> daja77: ... = why not?
18:34 < daja77> ah ok
18:34 < daja77> damn checking out rene's tree takes ages
18:35 < esden> daja77: 16kb upload or so
18:35 < daja77> ;)
18:36 < esden> daja77: and I think that he is also building on that machine
18:37 < daja77> ahem I did not intend bashing rene, I just can't await it ;)
18:37 < esden> keep calm ;-)
18:38 * daja77 tries to
18:41 < Mike1> moin all.
18:42 < daja77> hey Mike1
18:42 < _NULL_> hi Mike1
18:42 < Mike1> esden: you should remove Alessandro and Alex from the wanted section as they are already on the gallery.
18:52 < n00kie>  Holla Mike1, daja77 :)
18:52 < Mike1> hi n00kie
18:52 < daja77> hi n00kie
18:52 < mnemoc> hi
18:52 < n00kie> Heya mnemoc
18:52 < esden> Mike1: yes right
18:53 < Mike1> esden: sure, i am always right. :P
18:53 < Mike1> hi there Ale :)
18:54 < mnemoc> tell me, what have you thought about that targeT?
18:54 < esden> Mike1: done
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18:54 < esden> hi Mike1 ;-)
18:54 < Mike1> esden: Gott segne dich mein freund (btw)
18:54 < daja77> omg
18:54 < Mike1> mnemoc: well first of all we will want everything running on jails..
18:55 < daja77> lol
18:55 < Mike1> daja77: ?
18:55 < mnemoc> sure... but chroots, rsbac, grsecurity, vserver, etc...... what kind of jails
18:55 < esden> Mike1: god bless you too mike
18:55 < Mike1> esden: danke :)
18:55 < esden> bitte ;-)
18:55 < daja77> Mike1: ahem nothing /me just gets scared with all those blessings
18:56 < Mike1> mnemoc: well we do have chroots currently, so it would be just a matter of deciding this, perhaps we could include vserver stuff too
18:57 < esden> daja77: god bess you too then
18:57 * daja77 hides
18:57 < mnemoc> btw, i don't like these build-time jails...
18:57 < Mike1> daja77: may the lord bless you and guide everything in the right way in your life.
18:58 < daja77> ;)
18:58 < Mike1> mnemoc: neither do i.
18:58 < Mike1> daja77: esden and i told you that we have a stong faith, didn't we?
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19:05 < daja77> hi jhidalgo
19:16 < jhidalgo> daja77: hi u 2 !
19:16 < daja77> jhidalgo: ???
19:16 < jhidalgo> hi you too!
19:17 < daja77> ooops I see
19:17 < mnemoc> jhidalgo: is drunk :|
19:17 < _NULL_> hi jhidalgo
19:18 < daja77> mnemoc: ack
19:18 < jhidalgo> just happy!, hi _NULL_
19:18 < jhidalgo> with a little glue! but happy! :->
19:21 < jhidalgo> s/glue/hangover/
19:23 < daja77> ah ic
19:23 * daja77 building rene's tree
19:39 < jhidalgo> mnemoc: te conte que gpg no se queja en 1.7 ?, solo ocupas preparar el conf! :->
19:40 < mnemoc> send the patch to add it :)
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19:47 < tsa> hi all
19:48 < Mike1> Hola tsa
19:48 < daja77> hi tsa
19:48 < _NULL_> hi tsa
19:48 < daja77> *g* n00kie still says holla ;)
19:49 < esden> hmm a donation site would be nice ... (/me surfing the xine site)
19:50 < esden> or how they call it : "sponsors"
19:52 < mnemoc> paypal?
19:57 < esden> we tryed that ... but it did not really work ... but not money is really importaint ... hardware is what we need
19:57 < esden> mnemoc: look at xinehq.de under sponsors to see what I mean
20:01 < mnemoc> people donate hardware? :o
20:02 < daja77> esden: I could donate you an siemens p75 computer...
20:04 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
20:04 < esden> lol ... better then nothing ... but that is not exactly what I expect ... :-/ (groessenwahrn ;-) )
20:04 < mnemoc> shipping included? :)
20:04 < blindcoder> esden: rehi :)
20:05 < esden> re blindcoder 
20:05 < esden> back from skating?
20:06 < blindcoder> yeah
20:06 * daja77 will go out now, cu
20:06 < blindcoder> haven't been to blade night after all
20:06 < blindcoder> htey all abandoned me >_<
20:06 < Mike1> blindy hi.
20:06 < esden> have fun daja77 ..
20:07 < blindcoder> hi Mike1
20:07 < daja77> esden: thx
20:08 < _NULL_> hi blindcoder
20:08 < blindcoder> hi nully
20:15 * blindcoder feels old >_<
20:19 -!- Lorini is now known as LoriTV
20:23 < esden> blindcoder: you too???
20:24 < blindcoder> esden: yeah... what do you think is the average age at the lessons?
20:24 < blindcoder> 16? 17?
20:25 < esden> yes something in that range ... but we are pusching the average up >_<
20:25 < _NULL_> bad boys :p
20:25 < blindcoder> yeah... so maybe 15 without us :P
20:25 < mnemoc> :o
20:25 < blindcoder> and you know what?
20:25 < blindcoder> that sucks
20:26 * _NULL_ laughs loud about esden and blindcoder 
20:26 * blindcoder hits _NULL_ 
20:26 < esden> blindcoder: yes it sux ... but the required age for gold is 16 ...
20:26 * _NULL_ runs away
20:26 < blindcoder> esden: hmm.... still too young :P
20:27 < mnemoc> i have 'mates' whom entered the university 5 years after me :(
20:27 * -> esden takes a sword and runs after _NULL_ 
20:27 < blindcoder> mnemoc: we're talking dance-lessons here...
20:27 * _NULL_ uses her witcheries and protects herselfe against esden and blindcoder 
20:27 < mnemoc> i wanted to 'join' the depression :(
20:28 < blindcoder> mnemoc: nope. all the depression belongs solely to esden and me :P
20:28 < mnemoc> :( snif snif snif
20:28 < _NULL_> *g*
20:28 * blindcoder hands mnemoc a box of tissues
20:28 < mnemoc> thanks blindcoder
20:30 < _NULL_> *yawn*
20:30 < blindcoder> okay, I'll go hunting
20:30 < blindcoder> brb
20:30 < _NULL_> blindcoder: guten hunger. cya
20:35 < jhidalgo> where should I `cd' to run newpackage ?
20:35 < jhidalgo> in $rockhome (/usr/src/rock-src ?
20:36 * Mike1 is away: eating.
20:38 < jhidalgo> ok, now i know, mnemoc, the repos jose doesn't exist!
20:41 < mnemoc> you have to create it :|
20:41 < mnemoc> mkdir -p package/jose ;-)
20:42 < mnemoc> didn't you said the jose was a lame name for a repos.?
20:43 < blindcoder> back
20:43 < blindcoder> phew... I thought I was gonna die >_<
20:43 < jhidalgo> just kidding, but why add jose?
20:44 < blindcoder> hmm... newpackage should create the directory...
20:44 < mnemoc> the repository too?
20:45 < blindcoder> yea
20:45 < blindcoder> it runs mkdir -p package/$rep/$pkg
20:45 < jhidalgo> no, I mean, there is your repos: mnemoc, why add jose ?
20:45 < mnemoc> i'm mnemoc, you are jose ;)
20:46 < mnemoc> but i have no problem with your package in my repository <-- read this in a good sence
20:50 < jhidalgo> jeje, so funny!, mnemoc, I'll help rock if I can, but mantainer...., I think I don't have the time!, :->, I'll send it to you when I'm done!
20:51 < mnemoc> ok :)
20:51 < mnemoc> use ./script/Create-Diff for sending stuff
20:58 < jhidalgo> [C] extra/network ?
20:59 < mnemoc> mmm...
20:59 < mnemoc> anyone can suggest a good category pfor gnupg?
20:59 < blindcoder> extra/tool
21:01 < mnemoc> and extra/crypto?
21:01 < mnemoc> what's that for?
21:01 < blindcoder> is it there?
21:01 < blindcoder> don't know them by heart... they keep changing...
21:02 < mnemoc> http://www.rocklinux.org/sources/Documentation/Developers/PKG-CATEGORIES <-- it is there ;)
21:02 < jhidalgo> (and where should i put the mirror list?)
21:02 < blindcoder> if it's htere, put it in there :)
21:02 < mnemoc> jhidalgo: mirrors are of the whole download/ of rock
21:02 < mnemoc> not of a specific package
21:03 < blindcoder> put it in extra-crypto and extra-security
21:04 < blindcoder> okay, I'm off
21:04 < blindcoder> baba
21:06 < mnemoc> bye
21:06 < rxr> re
21:08 < rxr> hm gnupg was in my repository - I do not know where this has gone ...
21:08 < mnemoc> jhidalgo took it
21:08 < rxr> ah base ;-)
21:09 < mnemoc> jose: is it there already :\ ... but now you now how to add a package
21:10 < Mike1> hi rxr
21:11 < rxr> hi Mike1
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21:12 < jhidalgo> rxr: sorry, I didn't knew it was there!
21:14 < mnemoc> rxr: the needing of autoconf2.04, automake1.7 and texinfo, on local system, of coreutils can be solved?
21:14 < rxr> mnemoc: isn't it already ?
21:14 < mnemoc> don't know... i'm updated already :(
21:16 < mnemoc> but coreutils is 145 and texinfo is 162
21:16 < mnemoc> autoconf and automake are 18[78]
21:17 < mnemoc> even if they are used from tools.cross they will not be there
21:17 < mnemoc> but is the priority is the only problem, it's easy to solve
21:18 * mnemoc hates current stage1
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21:20 < rxr> mnemoc: the version numbers do not matter - the way coreutils is build and that acl attr are build in stage 5 is why it should be solved.
21:21 < mnemoc> damn coreutils :(
21:23 < rxr> yeah - damn gnu dunk ...
21:23 < daja77> re
21:23 < daja77> rxr: bad news
21:25 < daja77> or maybe good news first
21:25 < rxr> good ones first ;-)
21:26 < _NULL_> re
21:26 < daja77> re _NULL_
21:26 < daja77> acl and coreutils building fine in stage 1 without system upate
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21:28 < daja77> bad news is stage 2 still breaks due missing ln command in chroot env
21:29 < mnemoc> damn coreutils
21:29 < daja77> mnemoc: they build
21:29 < mnemoc> and ln?
21:29 < daja77> oh is in coreutils?
21:30 < mnemoc> should be
21:30 < rxr> daja77: what have you mixed on your system??? acl and attr are now only build in stage5 and stage9
21:30 < rxr> so ia acl build on your box in stage1 ?
21:30 < daja77> rxr: I only checked out your tree
21:31 < daja77> rev 97
21:32 < mnemoc> bbl
21:32 < rxr> daja77: stange
21:33 < rxr> what happens when you manually chroot into your build/$id/root ?
21:33 < daja77> mom
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21:34 < daja77> I don't have commands like ln or ls then
21:35 < rxr> you are shure corutils built error-free ?
21:35 < rxr> is some bin/ls in the flist of the coreutils package ?
21:36 < tcr> moin all
21:37 < daja77> rxr: Create-Errlist says acl and coreutils are broken in stage 1
21:39 < rxr> rm all the acl attr and coreutils .err files in build/$id/root/var/adm/logs/ and restart the build
21:39 < daja77> and watch?
21:39 < daja77> ok
21:45 < daja77> still the same, acl breaks due linker error and coreutils due old automake
21:45 < daja77> *daaaamn*
21:46 < _NULL_> *lol* it won't be more awfully than compiling an bsd-kernel on a penium 1, 133 mhz, i guess ;p
21:47 < daja77> dunno
21:55 < rxr> daja77: take a look into your attr and acl .desc files
21:55 < rxr> which stages are marked in them ??
21:56 < daja77> acl 5 and 9, dunno why it was build in 1
21:56 < rxr> any chance that you have two trees (one edit - one for builds?) and they are unsynced?
21:56 < rxr> do you have exacytly this files in them:
21:56 < rxr> package/base$ ls coreutils/ attr acl
21:56 < rxr> acl:
21:56 < rxr> acl.cache  acl.conf  acl.desc  autoconf.patch  install.patch
21:56 < rxr> attr:
21:57 < rxr> attr.cache  attr.conf  attr.desc  autoconf.patch  install.patch
21:57 < rxr> coreutils/:
21:57 < rxr> acl-xattr.diff  coreutils.cache  coreutils.conf  coreutils.desc  cross.patch  no-broken-progs.patch
21:57 < rxr> the coreutils acl-xattr.diff is an imporant indicator whether your files are up-to-date
21:58 < daja77> mom, I copied the config files from the old tree should I run scripts/Config again?
21:59 < rxr> nope the config is run (without user-interface) if needed ...
22:01 < daja77> acl-xattr.diff is there
22:01 < rxr> daja77: can I get a ssh login ?
22:02 < daja77> ssh doesn't work on this 19c3 rock box
22:02 < rxr> urghs
22:02 < daja77> it claims that the keys aren't there but they are, any suggestions
22:03 < rxr> do a ./scripts/Build-Pkg open-ssh into your system - should work
22:03 < rxr> or copy the .stone and .init from the open-ssh dir to the correct places manually ...
22:04 < tcr> Ah, 22. May is the premiere date for Matrix2
22:04 * rxr shortly away plugging the CRT to a test box - cu in some minutes
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22:06 < rxr> re
22:08 < daja77> rxr: ssh is up on this machine
22:09 < rxr> ;-)
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22:53 < daja77> hehe n00kie on board
22:53 < daja77> wb n00kie
22:54 < n00kie> thx :)
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22:54 < _headup_> Mike1
22:54 < _headup_> hey
22:54 < daja77> _headup_: hi
23:08 * rxr just lugging the CRT into the test box - cu in some minutes ...
23:11 < rxr> back
23:12 < daja77> weird what are you doin with that crt
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23:14 < rxr> I only have one 21" CRT on the table (with BNC connectors) so I have to plugit into my ROCK test install box ocationally ...
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23:14 < daja77> ah i c
23:14 < daja77> wb ringo *g*
23:15 < mlw> I am back :)
23:15 < daja77> yeah
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23:32 < rxr> Committed revision 101.
23:41 * Mike1 is back (gone 03:05:05)
23:42 < Mike1> actually n8 all
23:45 < n00kie> sleep well Mike1 :)
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