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--- Log opened Tue May 06 00:00:02 2003
--- Day changed Tue May 06 2003
00:03 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p50802607.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux
00:03 -!- A-Tui [~NOSPAM@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux
00:03 < A-Tui> hi
00:04 < Mike1> Aitor :)
00:05 * Mike1 -=[ ROCK Linux Spanish Chat - June 9th @ #rocklinux-talk, mail mike@rocklinux.org if you have questions about the event ]=-
00:06 < A-Tui> hola mike
00:06 < n00kie> Hola A-Tui
00:06 < n00kie> Como es usted?
00:06 < n00kie> Hola Mike1 :)
00:06 < Mike1> Aquellos que hablen espanol, no olviden invitar a mucha gente al ROCK Linux Spanish Chat
00:07 < Mike1> n00kie: our Spanish greeting Bot :)
00:07 < n00kie> ehehe
00:07 < n00kie> On 9th june
00:07 < n00kie> i will be in channel
00:07 < Mike1> n00kie: ack
00:07 < n00kie> and greet everyone with "hola" ;)
00:07 < Mike1> n00kie: greeting?
00:07 < Mike1> :)
00:07 < n00kie> Mike1 is paying me. ;)
00:07 < Mike1> yeah right.
00:08 < A-Tui> Mike1 what´s that about rock spanish chat?
00:08 < tsa> A-Tui: mike talks and nobody understands.
00:08 < n00kie> Hmm
00:08 < tsa> after that, we're all leaving.
00:08 < tsa> ;)
00:08 * n00kie is searching for website with daaaark backgrounds :)
00:08 < A-Tui> tsa :)
00:08 < Mike1> A-Tui: habra un chat en espanol para todas las personas interesadas en ROCK Linux, para que puedan hacer preguntas, etc
00:09 < A-Tui> Mike1 fantastico!
00:09 < A-Tui> para julio sacamos un nuevo numero de x-ezine
00:09 < Mike1> A-Tui: la idea es que por ejemplo tu estes presente, e invites a mucha gente conocida para ver si se comienzan a meter al proyecto
00:09 < A-Tui> haré unb arti sobre ROCK
00:09 < Mike1> A-Tui: excellente
00:09 < A-Tui> Mike1 cuanta conmigo
00:09 < Mike1> A-Tui: tsa estara ahi para responder preguntas
00:09 < A-Tui> ok
00:09 < A-Tui> tsa es español?
00:09 < Mike1> y yo tambien :)
00:10 < tsa> no.
00:10 < tsa> aleman
00:10 < Mike1> A-Tui: no pero hable bien espanol
00:10 < A-Tui> ahh ok :)
00:10 < Mike1> n00kie: sera el encargado de decirle 'hola'  a todos los que entren
00:10 < Mike1> s/hable/habla
00:10 < A-Tui> este finde estuve de vacaciones en Cadiz :)
00:10 < Mike1> A-Tui: maldito afortunado!
00:10 < A-Tui> por eso no aparecí por aqui
00:10 < A-Tui> :)
00:11 < A-Tui> si, ademas en un chalet de lujo!
00:11 < Mike1> A-Tui: arrgg!!
00:11 < n00kie> Mike1: No bablefish ;)
00:11 < A-Tui> pasamos la forntera a Gibraltar
00:11 < Mike1> A-Tui: recuerde ( de Junio, en #rocklinux-talk
00:11 < Mike1> 5 de Junio*
00:11 < Mike1> A-Tui: fotos?
00:11 < A-Tui> Mike1 nolas tengo yo
00:11 < A-Tui> las tiene mi novia
00:12 < A-Tui> cuando esten te paso
00:12 < Mike1> A-Tui, tsa me pregunto quien sera el primeero en gritar porque eestamos hablando espanol
00:12 < A-Tui> :)
00:12 < A-Tui> ok, then we could speak english
00:12 < A-Tui> no problem
00:13 < Mike1> ahh :( but i wanted to see someone scream...
00:14 < A-Tui> hehe
00:14 < A-Tui> parece q nbo estan atentos al canal :)
00:14 < Mike1> maybe
00:14 < Mike1> :)
00:14 < tsa> !
00:15 < Mike1> tsa: ?
00:16 < tsa> <- trabajando, por eso no estoy atento..
00:16 < tsa> ..y un poco borracho
00:16 < A-Tui> tsa :)
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00:18 < LocalHero> hi all
00:18 < A-Tui> hi LocalHero
00:21 < n00kie> I ever wanted to come to sweden
00:22 < A-Tui> n00kie then ... go it :)
00:22 < tsa> hi LocalHero
00:23 < n00kie> no money
00:23 < A-Tui> n00kie ops :(
00:23 < n00kie> Before I go to sweden, I would buy me a sparc :)
00:24 < A-Tui> hehe a good choice :)
00:25 < Mike1> hi LocalHero
00:26 < tsa> hm...more sparc hardware would probably get me killed.
00:26 < tsa> (girlfriend..)
00:26 * Mike1 wonders where is esden
00:28 < n00kie> tsa: Give it to me =)
00:28 < tsa> hehe
00:28 < n00kie> I've never seen a real sparc :(
00:29 < LocalHero> n00kie, what do you want to do in sweden?
00:29 < n00kie> look
00:29 < n00kie> it's a nice city
00:30 < n00kie> many geeks are from sweden :)
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00:32 < n00kie> sleep well guys :)
00:32 < Mike1> you too n00kie
00:33 < tsa> cu n00kie
00:34 < LocalHero> n00kie, well sweden is actually a country :)..
00:34 < LocalHero> n00kie sleep well
00:35 < LocalHero> Well, im also off to bed, cya all
00:35 < Mike1> cu Alex
00:35 < LocalHero> Tomorrow i have to fight those old mac guys who think that macos 8.6 is the best that human has ever made :(
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01:14 < esden> re hi all
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02:15 < esden> humm ...
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02:22 < esden> hmm ... everyone dead?
02:25 < tsa> yes.
02:26 < esden> hi tsa 
02:26 < esden> I thought that there fell a atomic bomb while I was away ...
02:27 * -> esden found a p2 motherboard on the street today (no kidding)
02:27 < esden> and two full functional pc's someone has thrown away
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02:29 < tsa> nice.
02:29 < jhidalgo> Hi !
02:34 < jhidalgo> Hello!, nobody! :-(
02:36 < esden> hi jhidalgo 
02:36 < esden> not nobody ...
02:36 * -> esden is here!
02:37 < tsa> esden!
02:37 < tsa> esden!
02:37 < tsa> esden!
02:37 < tsa> esden!
02:38 < tsa> <- cheating stats ;)
02:41 < esden> tsa: die
02:41 < esden> ;-)
02:42 < tsa> hehehehe
02:43 < esden> tsa: do not lough ... your time is coming
02:43 < tsa> we'll see.
02:43 < esden> yes you will see
02:45 < tsa> no esden i can still make a longer sentence than you and i will therefore rule the stats...someday...perhaps
02:45 < tsa> ;)
02:46 < esden> lol ... I give a shit on the first place in the stats ... if you want my place in the stats you are wellcome ... I am still better then you ;-)
02:46 < esden> and only as a note that has been a longer sentence then yours ;-)
02:46 < tsa> hehehe
02:47 < tsa> ./nick esden2
02:49 < esden> whatfor?
02:51 < tsa> i could then tell everybody that i'm responsible for the high stats ranking ;)
02:51 < tsa> btw...does ripclaw still exist?
02:51 < tsa> haven't heard anythingt from him for quite a while..
02:52 * jhidalgo ask: if I have one server running xdm -nodaemon how do I login from another workstation in his X ?
02:53 * -> esden using startx ... and I do not think that you want to use the x server of a remote machine ...
02:54 < tsa> <- startx, too
02:54 < jhidalgo> yes, I want to use the remote x server but with my display,
02:54 < tsa> but you could try "X -query <ip-address>
02:56 < jhidalgo> tanx, I think thats the right one!
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02:58 < esden> hi Mike2 ?
02:58 < Mike2> hi esdy
02:58 < Mike2> esden: /query
02:59 < esden> ahh you are alive?
02:59 < esden> ;-)
02:59 < Mike2> yes, why wouldn't i be alive?
02:59 < Mike2> i was lookign for ya
02:59 < esden> I have read that but you were off for some time as it seems
03:00 < esden> Mike2: /query ??? o_O
03:00 < Mike2> esden: i was just worried about u
03:00 < Mike2> haven't seen u in quite a while
03:01 < esden> ohh ... I was in Ingolstadt and not online ... had other things to do ... like dancing for example ;-)
03:01 < Mike2> sounds fine to me :)
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03:02 < Mike2_> hehe re.
03:02 < esden> urgh
03:02 < esden> what are you doing?
03:02 < tsa> hiya Mike2_
03:03 < Mike2_> hi tsa
03:03 < tsa> esden: trying to set up a reverse dns record, probably ;)
03:03 < Mike2_> esden: i am here just bugging u guys
03:03 < Mike2_> tsa: nah i am at a friends place
03:03 < Mike2_> tsa: reverse dns record in cr are a crap
03:04 < esden> ahh ok
03:04 < Mike2_> damn monopoly
03:04 < Mike2_> esden: read query
03:04 < tsa> Mike2_: well..i had a look at the webhosting prices at informatica.co.cr yesterday..
03:05 < Mike2_> tsa: oh informatica is expensive as hell
03:05 < tsa> ack.
03:05 < Mike2_> tsa: my boss is an ass
03:05 * -> esden has 14 open windows in irssi >_<
03:05 < tsa> hope he doesn't read rocklinux irc logs..
03:05 < Mike2_> tsa: anyways he's power is colocation for sportsbooks
03:05 < Mike2_> esden: i don't care, read query
03:05 < Mike2_> :)
03:06 * tsa considers going to .cr and building up a new ISP.. ;-)
03:07 < Mike2_> tsa: u would depend on racsa (the only allowed provider for this monopoly law), but u can offer hosting, colo and so
03:07 < Mike2_> tsa: i need a partner for this indeed so if u are serious...
03:08 < tsa> Mike2_: with the prices i've seen, it might be even cheaper to get a server  in usa or elsewhere..
03:09 < Mike2_> tsa: don't informatica's prices trick u, i am serious my boss is nuts, and the market is really competive betwen 20 - 10 US $ per month
03:09 < tsa> hm...that sounds really better.
03:10 < Mike2_> tsa, also there is the fact tha, people here is in need of solutions, linux based solutions, even mostly mysql + php solutions
03:10 * -> esden brewing coffee
03:11 < tsa> so the web hosting market is already taken
03:12 < tsa> web design
03:12 < tsa> what about larger infrastructure? leased lines, firewalls, etc..?
03:12 < Mike2_> tsa: webhosting / applications development / consulting - thats the expensive market here
03:13 < Mike2_> tsa: what exactly about it?
03:13 < tsa> sounds interesting..
03:14 < tsa> what about general internet access? how far are the phone companies?
03:14 < Mike2_> tsa: almost every Linux guy here is such a lamer
03:14 < tsa> modem/isdn/dsl?
03:14 < Mike2_> tsa: general access is controled by a monopoly supported by the goberment and laws...
03:14 < Mike2_> that the only thing that sicks here
03:15 < tsa> which means modem, probably.
03:15 < Mike2_> tsa no there is cable, isdn, dsl, modem..
03:15 < Mike2_> but only controled by them (racsa)
03:16 < tsa> i see.
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03:25 < A-Tui> bye, cu you tomorrow
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03:57 < tsa> n8
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03:58 < esden> n8
04:54 < n00kie> Anyone alive? :)
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06:41 < blindcoder> moin
06:44 < n00kie> Hola blindcoder
06:44 < n00kie> Comé es usted
06:44 < n00kie> ?
06:44 < n00kie> :)
06:51 < blindcoder> hae?
06:59 < kasc> moin
07:07 < n00kie> blindcoder:  "Wie geht es dir?" ;)
07:07 < blindcoder> moin kasc
07:08 < blindcoder> n00kie: hmm... as of now, good. But that's about to change in about an hour when Hell Desk starts
07:08 < n00kie> ehehe ;)
07:19 < n00kie> Well, I must go.
07:19 < n00kie> See you, guys
07:20 < n00kie> Bbl, school.
09:22 < netrunner> hey, anybody here? I am getting some weird errors while building (again)
09:42 < netrunner> I have a 'Found shared Files: ...<long list of> usr/src/linux-2.4.21-rc1-rock/include/linux/pci_ids.h: dietlibc linux24-src
09:43 < netrunner> this leads to an build error at the end. whats wrong here?
09:44 < blindcoder> shared fires are a warning, not an error
09:45 < blindcoder> disregard as long as you're not the maintainer and/or report to maintainer of packages/mailing-list
09:45 < blindcoder> in this case: esden
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10:01 < netrunner> blindcoder: but I get an Build-Error afterwards. this is the case for 0,1-dietlibc 0,1-linux24-header and 0,1-mine so far. maybe I have a typo somewhere?
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10:02 < JTBurn> Hi
10:03 < blindcoder> netrunner: seems like a dietlibc problem... are you building with dietlibc support?
10:04 < blindcoder> hi JTBurn
10:04 < netrunner> blindcoder: i am building the desktop target which includes dietlibc, yes.
10:05 < netrunner> the packages seem to build fine, only afterwards it finds these shared files and complains about an build error.
10:06 < netrunner> but I can send some of the .err s to the list if you think that could help.
10:13 < blindcoder> shared files ale no real error
10:14 < blindcoder> they are merely a warning
10:14 < blindcoder> the .gems are built fine
10:35 < JTBurn> I want to start my apache webserver. but he cannot start because severel modules ar loaded. my question: how can Iunload these modules ?
10:46 < netrunner> jt: comment them out in your httpd.conf?
10:50 < JTBurn> netrunner: that hav I made and many modules are unloaded. but not all
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11:14 < _NULL_> hi
11:14 < _NULL_> *yawn* school is sooooooooo interesting.
11:17 < blindcoder> hehe
11:17 < blindcoder> as is work >_,
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12:01 < _NULL_> blindcoder: work is more interesting
12:01 < _NULL_> re (back from break) btw
12:01 < blindcoder> _NULL_: well, if I would work, that is :)
12:01 < blindcoder> wb btw
12:02 < _NULL_> tstststs ;p
12:02 * _NULL_ is reading manga, linux magazin, book and if not reading, then sitting in front of the computer :ppp
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12:02 < blindcoder> _NULL_: manga? fake?
12:02 < _NULL_> (btw, did i already love knoppix? - especially if you have the bios-passwd)
12:02 < _NULL_> blame ...
12:03 < _NULL_> do you know it?
12:03 < blindcoder> hmm... I worked onn www.crash-override.net, managed to get X-Forward through ssh-->ssh--transconnect-->licq
12:03 < blindcoder> hmm... never read it
12:03 < blindcoder> and listen to aniverse-radio
12:03 < _NULL_> tstststs
12:04 < _NULL_> blame is cool imho. it's a sci-fi/adventure manga afaik
12:04 < blindcoder> hmm...
12:04 < blindcoder> I'm reading Love Hina
12:04 < blindcoder> or read it yesterday evening
12:04 < _NULL_> hehe ;)
12:04 < blindcoder> definately nothing to read when depressed
12:04 < _NULL_> why?
12:04 < blindcoder> noting to read when not epressed, either
12:05 < _NULL_> so: nothing to read, at all :p
12:05 < blindcoder> Keitaro, ~19 years old, failed TouDai Entrance Exam 3 times becomes kanrinin (manager) of an all-female-dorm
12:06 < _NULL_> hrm.
12:06 < blindcoder> and from there, the calamity takes it's course
12:07 < _NULL_> hrm
12:07 < _NULL_> k.
12:07 < blindcoder> the manga is based on comedy and rated 16+ :)
12:07 < blindcoder> not really hentai, but not for children, either
12:08 < _NULL_> *lol*
12:08 < _NULL_> blame is rated as "adult" afaik... because of the manye killed people, blood and stuff *vbeg*
12:10 < blindcoder> noone is killed in LH, but Keitaro is sometime close to gettin killed by "his" girls :D
12:10 < _NULL_> hehe :) the usual girls vs. men-stuff? ;)
12:11 < blindcoder> well... I wouldn't call it "usual"
12:11 < _NULL_> (hihi. still no teacher here ;ppp)
12:11 < blindcoder> rather... "unique"
12:11 < _NULL_> blindcoder: why so?
12:11 < blindcoder> because no other man can hope to become ever as happy as keitaro with 5 prettty girls around him :)
12:11 < blindcoder> well, most of them try to kill him in one way or another... but still ;)
12:13 < _NULL_> uffff
12:13 < blindcoder> Motoko is a female kenshin
12:13 * _NULL_ is going  to kill some guys of this class, here, too, soon 
12:13 < blindcoder> Kitsune is always drunk and sexy clothed
12:13 < _NULL_> *lol*
12:13 < blindcoder> Shinobu is too young (erm...)
12:14 < blindcoder> Su is young and unstopppbale (naja, kindlich unschuldig halt :)
12:14 < blindcoder> Mutsumi is... well... not really stupid... but you can't call her bright either...
12:15 < blindcoder> and Naru... erm... Keitaro is in love with her and she is... well... hard to describe
12:15 < _NULL_> *gt* this was the best describtion
12:16 < blindcoder>  Naru's first impression of Keitaro was one of a major pervert. From that first impression, she begins to treat him like one. Later things begin to change and punches upgrade to roundhouse kicks and even stronger punches.
12:17 < blindcoder> https://www.animenfo.com/animetitle,242,jqhwyg,love_hina.html <-- details
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12:18 * _NULL_ currently has no inet here... (ok... i could use the ip-address)
12:18 < blindcoder> just bookmark it :)
12:18 < blindcoder> _NULL_: btw.: you are on aszligs server?
12:18 < _NULL_> blindcoder: ack
12:19 < _NULL_> i'm having the ip-adress in my mind
12:19 < blindcoder> hehe
12:19 < blindcoder> you could test how 'secure' aszligs box really is
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12:20 < _NULL_> blindcoder: don't laugh. using knoppix and then setting the default gw to the router's ip ... normally those win-clients are usingr the proxyservers which are controlled by our beloved teachers...
12:20 < _NULL_> the others have no inet now :ppppppp
12:20 < _NULL_> it's not my destination to test teh security of aszlig's server
12:21 < blindcoder> hehe
12:21 < blindcoder> I just want to know if the survive a ls `yes`
12:21 < _NULL_> hrm.
12:22 < _NULL_> dammit. the teacher is there now... :-(
12:22 * _NULL_ only temp. available now... bbl
12:22 < blindcoder> okay
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12:43 < _NULL_> hrm...
12:43 < blindcoder> hmm... spammer seem to become desperate recently
12:44 < _NULL_> spammer?
12:45 < blindcoder> yeah... in the last three days I've gotten one and the same windows-screensaver (containing some plain-text dns-names in its binary code) OVER FIFTY TIMES!
12:51 < esden> hi all
12:52 < _NULL_> hi esden
12:52 < blindcoder> hi esden
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12:58 < esden> ahh good someone alife ;-)
12:59 < blindcoder> esden: hehe, until about 18:00 I'll be alive and kicking
12:59 < blindcoder> after that I'll be kicked to death :)
12:59 < esden> O_o
12:59 < blindcoder> Fitness Center
12:59 < esden> lol
13:00 < blindcoder> today I'm going to get my Training and diet program
13:00 < _NULL_> esden: you also can't stop about the plan of upcoming muscle-man blindcoder , can you?
13:00 < esden> I do not want to stop him
13:01 < blindcoder> s/stop about/stop laughing about/
13:01 < _NULL_> aeah. ack.
13:01 < esden> in half a year blindcoder weights the same but his volume halfed ... and when it is so I will be very afraid of him
13:01 < blindcoder> esden: https://www.crash-override.net/ <-- changed a bit again
13:01 < blindcoder> esden: MUAHAHA be afraid... be _very_ afraid
13:02 < _NULL_> *ggg*
13:02 < blindcoder> well, I want to lose the fat on me, and I will lose it, no matter what.
13:02 < esden> blindcoder: I am ... I am thrilled
13:02 < _NULL_> i won't know him then, anymore, if i meet him in IN or so
13:03 < blindcoder> _NULL_: hehe. I colud go and visit uli or other "old friends" then *MUAHAHAHA*
13:03 < blindcoder> esden: about the page? :D
13:03 < esden> blindcoder: you know that fat is not as heavy as muscles ... so when you exchange fat for muscles you weight the same as before but your volume is getting smaller
13:03 < _NULL_> maybe you want to change your job into "securities" man?
13:04 < blindcoder> esden: that for one, and fat is by far not as "beautiful" :D
13:04 < blindcoder> _NULL_: muahahaha.
13:04 < esden> blindcoder: Very nice 
13:04 < esden> I really like that design
13:04 < blindcoder> _NULL_: throwing out kiddies out of Discos
13:04 < _NULL_> blindcoder: ack. *lol*
13:04 < blindcoder> esden: thanks :) it now only features a single 10x10px image :)
13:05 < esden> blindcoder: ok ... be afraid ... now comes the textbrowser check ;-)
13:05 * blindcoder runs and hides
13:06 < blindcoder> hmm... could be worse....
13:06 < blindcoder> could also be better
13:07 < blindcoder> talking about beautiful
13:07 < esden> hmm ... you could change something with the menu stuff in (checkted with links) the menu
13:07 * blindcoder thinks he's becoming more and more "eitel"
13:07 < esden> but it is usable
13:07 < esden> and looks ok to me
13:07 < blindcoder> esden: yeah, just checked myself. Problem is that there are no <br /> after the links on the nav-bar
13:07 < esden> blindcoder: LOL .. you eitel ...
13:07 < blindcoder> it's done with <div>
13:07 < blindcoder> esden: yes >_<
13:08 < blindcoder> esden: it already started with my hair
13:08 < _NULL_> blindcoder: ??? with your hair ???
13:08 < blindcoder> esden: and if I really should become "anschaubar" then it's bound to get worse >_<
13:08 < blindcoder> _NULL_: 40 minutes doing my hair (including washing, combing, styling) ALONE
13:08 < esden> if you now have your hair as mely is heving hers then I REALLY DO NOT want to see you ;-)
13:08 < _NULL_> omg. even me doesn't need so long...
13:09 < blindcoder>  /msg ChanServ OP ME YOU STUPID BULLSHIT OF CODE!! *g*
13:09 < _NULL_> esden: how is mely's hair lookig?
13:09 * _NULL_ needs something to laught about
13:09 < esden> _NULL_: not apropriate for a man ;-)
13:10 < _NULL_> esden: "dauerwelle"? or "aufgestyled"?
13:10 < blindcoder> _NULL_: short styled
13:10 < _NULL_> huh?
13:10 < blindcoder> not even down to shaulders
13:10 < esden> _NULL_: "ueberstyled" if you ask me *G*
13:10 < blindcoder> and really "full hair"
13:10 < _NULL_> esden: hehe ;)
13:11 < blindcoder> it looks good on her, despite the fact that women should have long hair
13:11 < _NULL_> *looool* blindcoder - style your hair as mely does...
13:11 * blindcoder kicks ChanServ a bit aroun
13:11 < blindcoder> d cause it doesn't do what he wants it to do
13:12 < esden> O_o
13:12 < esden> blindcoder: you want to be op where?
13:12 < blindcoder> esden: here. So I can kick people if I can't counter with words :P
13:12 < _NULL_> 1 hours, 45 minutes remainig *counting seconds*
13:12 < blindcoder> _NULL_: here, too :)
13:13 < _NULL_> blindcoder: hehe ;) where not?
13:13 < blindcoder> beats me
13:13 < esden> ohh god ... you should work not count seconds till you can leave ...
13:13 < esden> tztztz
13:15 < blindcoder> _NULL_: women should have long hair
13:16 -!- Netsplit asimov.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: praenti
13:16 < _NULL_> blindcoder: tststs.
13:16 < blindcoder> nad honestly: since I have long hair myself I have a whole new respect for long haired women
13:17 < blindcoder> 55 *sigh*
13:17 < _NULL_> 55?
13:17 -!- Netsplit over, joins: praenti
13:17 < blindcoder> I'm counting the "shakinglove.scr" spam
13:18 < blindcoder> just got it for the 55th time in three days
13:19 < esden> blindcoder: my cousins had long hair as we were small ... I saw what a bloody mess it is ...
13:19 < blindcoder> esden: yes, that's where my respect comes from
13:19 < blindcoder> well, my hair's not bloody...
13:19 < blindcoder> :)
13:20 < blindcoder> OTOH, that depends WHERE the log hair was *ahem*
13:20 < esden> blindcoder: !!! ARGH
13:20 < blindcoder> I see you understand me :D
13:21 < esden> yes ... and I really regret it
13:22 < blindcoder> esden: aren't you used to that kind of humour already?
13:22 < blindcoder> or have you been in munich for too long without me? :P
13:23 < esden> not when it is applyed to my 7 and 8 years old cousines ...
13:23 < blindcoder> erm...
13:24 < blindcoder> must have overread something then :P
13:25 < esden> *GG*
13:26 < blindcoder> eesdebut then it's even WORSE that you understood it :P
13:28 < esden> nope ... it is worse that you apply such texts to 8 years old kids
13:29 < esden> I understand that because such stuff works with older and younger
13:29 < esden> and I am trained in such stuff ;-)
13:30 < esden> == 13:52:12 =[5]=> Building x11/xfree86 [4.3.99.2 1.7-snapshot].
13:30 < esden> good the build for the bok I found yestarday on the street is advancing
13:30 < esden> blindcoder: I found a p2 mainboard on the street yesterday
13:30 < blindcoder> bok? found? street?
13:31 < blindcoder> o_O
13:31 < esden> and box
13:31 < blindcoder> erm... k...
13:32 * -> esden was "computer-strich" yesterday ... I wanted to buy something but had no money 
13:32 < esden> and as I walked home I found a p2 mainboard laying on the street
13:32 < blindcoder> nice
13:32 < esden> noone around beside a trashcan
13:32 < esden> and looking usable
13:33 * blindcoder whacks esden with the nearest baseball bat
13:34 < blindcoder> MUAHAHAHA
13:34 < blindcoder> but just wait
13:34 < blindcoder> in 6-12 months...
13:34 < esden> and later as uwe and I wanted to go swimming we went down to throw something away and fund two full functional pc's there
13:34 * blindcoder puts on a dreamy look
13:35 < esden> a pentium 100mhz and a 486 100 mhz
13:35 < esden> now compiling rock for the pentium box ;-)
13:37 < blindcoder> hm?
13:37 < blindcoder> what did you say?
13:37 < blindcoder> I was just dreaming right now...
13:37 < esden> hehe ;-)
13:37 < _NULL_> "DNS Windows 2000 Server" -- NOOOOOOOOO
13:40 < blindcoder> esden: watched CCS already?
13:42 < esden> nope ... but I will do it now
13:42 < blindcoder> hmm... sometimes I think about feeding those .wav.bat attachments that really are .exe in disguise to wine...
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13:59 < blindcoder> esden: btw.: "das Produkt" runs in winex3 :D
14:03 < esden> cool
14:03 < blindcoder> althrough X crashes halfway through
14:03 < blindcoder> but it works better than in Win98 (where it doesn't run at all :P)
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14:10 < _NULL_> re n00kie
14:12 < n00kie> re _NULL_ :)
14:24 < _NULL_> ok... working... bbl
14:28 < n00kie> Have fun, _NULL_
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14:57 * blindcoder going home
14:57 < blindcoder> baba
15:08 -!- george [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux
15:08 < george> good morning!
15:10 < george> any coreutils guys around?
15:16 < daja77> moin
15:16 < george> moin
15:17 < daja77> george: you mean any coreutils hating guys *g*
15:17 < george> yep
15:18 < daja77> hmm mnemoc isn't here...
15:18 < george> I tried to seperately compile coreutils.
15:18 < george> If I do "find | xargs touch" before ./configure, aclocal etal. is not run...
15:20 < daja77> sorry can't help you
15:21 < george> k.
15:24 < esden> morning george, daja77 
15:25 < daja77> esden: hi
15:26 < george> good morning!
15:27 < daja77> george: you are the guy working at max-planck, right?
15:28 < george> yep
15:28 < george> why
15:29 < daja77> oh nothing I am just "neugierig" *g*
15:29 < george> :-)
15:29 * daja77 has an assistant job at fraunhofer institute ;)
15:31 < george> daja77: which one?
15:53 < daja77> machine tools and forming technology
15:54 < daja77> sorry was afk due conversation ;)
15:55 < daja77> WEEEE I can now watch my builds at home from here via isdn ;)
15:55 < esden> prost
15:55 < daja77> esden: drinking again?
15:55 < esden> ack ... still working on the uclibc target ...
15:56 < daja77> hehe
15:56 < esden> I should smoke something to get inspiration instead of drinking
15:56 < daja77> == 15:51:10 =[5]=> Building kde31/kdebase31 [3.1.1a 2.0.0-beta].
15:56 < esden> == 16:56:03 =[5]=> Building x11/imlib [1.9.14 1.7-snapshot].
15:56 < daja77> esden: your clock O_o
15:57 < esden> hmm
15:58 < george> hwclock is localtime!?
15:59 < esden> ok ... now it is fixed
15:59 < esden> george: no summer/winter change
16:02 < daja77> dyndns rules
16:05 < daja77> I'm goin to work now cu in some minutes ;)
16:07 < esden> just close your eyes ... forget your name ... forget the world ... forget the people ... *sing*
16:08 < daja77> hehe, depressed?
16:08 < esden> nono ... in very good mood ... that track rulez
16:08 < daja77> hmm send it to me
16:08 * -> esden not hearing depressed musig when depressed
16:09 < esden> daja77: it is techno ... 
16:09 < daja77> oh ok then *not*
16:09 < daja77> cu
16:09 < esden> hehe I thought you will say that ;-)
16:09 < esden> cu 
16:11 * george is away: My boss' around.
16:14 < esden> acid headcracker is also cool
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16:24 < Mike1> moin all
16:24 * Mike1 is away: I'm busy
16:24 * Mike1 is back (gone 00:00:02)
16:24 < Mike1> ping rxr
16:25 < esden> moin Mike1 
16:28 < Mike1> esden: server reinstall succeded :)
16:28 < esden> good ;-)
16:28 < Mike1> mom /me checking bank account.
16:29 < esden> ahh nice you want to give me money Mike1 ?
16:30 < Mike1> esden: sure how much do you need? *gg*
16:30 < esden> as much as you would like to spend
16:30 < Mike1> lol
16:32 * Mike1 needs rxr
16:32 < Mike1> ping rxr
16:37 < rolla> grr
16:37 < esden> rolla: ?
16:37 < esden> hi ...
16:38 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M359P014.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux
16:38 < rolla> shell scripting is kicking my butt
16:39 < esden> shell scripting rulez ;-)
16:39 < Mike1> hola n00kie.
16:44 < n00kie> Hola Mike1 :)
16:45 < n00kie> Comé es usted, Bolaños?
16:45 < Mike1> n00kie: 'Como esta usted?'
16:45 < n00kie> ah
16:45 < n00kie> Comó esta usted?
16:46 < Mike1> n00kie: 'muy bien gracias y usted?' (very well thanks, and you).
16:46 < n00kie> muy bien! :)
16:47 < n00kie> I'm now building rock boot & install disc
16:47 * george is back (gone 00:36:22)
16:47 < daja77> re
16:48 < Mike1> n00kie: good!
16:48 < Mike1> welcome back daja77
16:48 < n00kie> gracias, Mike1
16:49 < n00kie> Hmm
16:49 < n00kie> How long will it take me on a Athlon XP 1800?
16:49 < Mike1> 24 hours or so.
16:49 < daja77> Mike1: thx and hi
16:49 < daja77> n00kie: what?
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16:50 < n00kie> daja77: Rock Boot and Install Disk
16:50 < daja77> n00kie: boot disc target takes 7-8 hours on your machine I guess
16:50 < n00kie> Target
16:50 < n00kie> ah
16:50 < n00kie> thank you :)
16:51 < n00kie> Hmm
16:51 < george> cu later
16:52 -!- george [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit ("Family affairs.")
16:52 < n00kie> Does anyone know, how many megs Target "Boot and Install Disc" with the Download -required option needs?
16:52 < daja77> puh no can't remember never did that
16:53 < n00kie> hmm
16:53 < n00kie> well
16:54 < n00kie> I'll hope, it doesn't needs more than 500megs
16:54 < daja77> haha no, for sure *not*
16:55 < n00kie> do you mean, it needs less 500megs?
16:55 < daja77> the download for bootdisc of course, at least I hope it
16:56 < n00kie> ok
16:56 < n00kie> you know, i have a traffic flat
16:57 < daja77> hmmm
16:57 < n00kie> [16:53:39][root@n0nsense][/usr/src/rock-src]> ./scripts/Download -required <- Wish me luck. :)
16:57 < daja77> default is your bootdisc target?
16:57 < n00kie> yes
16:57 < daja77> ah ok
16:58 < n00kie> (bootdisk) Boot-, Install- and Rescue-System
16:59 < n00kie> okay, i'm downloading
17:00 < daja77> hehehe /me entered top 10 ;)
17:01 < n00kie> TOp10? :)
17:03 < daja77> yeah of #rocklinux ;)
17:04 < rolla> ?
17:04 < daja77> hi rolla I mean the stats
17:04 < rolla> :)
17:05 < n00kie> wait :)
17:05 < n00kie> daja77: Got URL?
17:06 < daja77> https://www2.rocklinux.de/people/esden/ircstat/
17:07 < daja77> rolla is a wise man, he talks less than me ;)
17:09 < rolla> who came up with the quotes ?
17:09 < daja77> rolla: ?
17:10 < rolla> 20rolla  3246 unions are good for nothing any more
17:11 < n00kie> daja77: I'm not in the stats :(
17:11 < daja77> hehe random quotes, sometimes they are really good
17:11 < daja77> n00kie: hehe talk more :p
17:12 < rolla> or n00kie just be here all the time like me :)
17:12 < rolla> let go see what I can cut and paste into here to drive up my count ;)
17:12 * rolla looks for his kernel source code 
17:12 < daja77> yeah do so, you have sort of falling behind...
17:13 < rolla> nah I only talk when I have time and when there is something important to say
17:13 < rolla> for instance "Rock 1.7 sucks still ;)"
17:14 < daja77> rolla: ack
17:14 * daja77 copiling 2.0.0-beta now
17:14 < daja77> compiling
17:14 * Mike1 realized that gnome won't start on drock 2.0 beta, also it is not possible to recompile the kernel for a missing stubs.h
17:14 < Mike1> this really sucks!
17:14 < rolla> Mike1: yes it does
17:15 < daja77> Mike1: you need gnome to compile kernel O_o
17:15 < rolla> I hope to install 1.7 again on mike sometime soon
17:15 < rolla> How many times have I said that ;)
17:15 < daja77> haven't count it
17:15 < n00kie> ehehe rolla :)
17:15 < rolla> I have said it many times
17:16 * n00kie downloading binutils
17:16 < rolla> but still rock 1.7 builds fail on that system
17:16 < rolla> coreutil refuses to compile
17:16 < daja77> haha
17:16 < daja77> rolla: update autoconf + automake
17:18 < n00kie> hmm
17:18 < n00kie> I'm downloading gcc
17:18 < n00kie> how longs does it need, to get compiled ?
17:19 < daja77> n00kie: try it out
17:19 < rolla> daja77: I did :)
17:19 < daja77> rolla: which versions?
17:19 < rolla> I am going to try installing 1.7 on it and try the build again
17:20 < rolla> whatever is included with rock 1.7
17:20 < daja77> rolla: still to old
17:20 < daja77> too
17:20 < daja77> grab them from gnu.org and build them yourself
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17:21 < Mike1> daja77: no i don't need gnome for kernel, i was just mentioning 2 of the problems i found
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17:21 < daja77> Mike1: ah ok, this sounds better, yeah some gnome packages still failed during build
17:22 < Mike1> daja77: gnome-session is missing on the beta release so it won't start, and i like gnome not kde
17:22 < Mike1> arrgg!
17:22 < daja77> I know ;)
17:22 < daja77> it is a hard business, but kde compiles...
17:22 < daja77> even if it takes ages
17:23 < Mike1> still i don't like it.
17:23 < daja77> ack
17:23 < Mike1> neither does rolla
17:23 < daja77> and me
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17:25 < daja77> wb blindcoder
17:25 < rolla> daja77: are you sure?
17:25 < daja77> rolla: what do you mean?
17:26 < rolla> about the version being too old?
17:26 < daja77> yes
17:26 < rolla> I shall try
17:26 < rolla> what versions do you have?
17:27 < daja77> autoconf 2.57, automake 1.7
17:27 < rolla> thanks
17:27 < rolla> if it still doesn't work then I am coming after you ;)
17:28 < daja77> omg
17:28 < rolla> was?
17:28 < daja77> you are haunting me?
17:29 < Mike1> LOL
17:29 < rolla> ja
17:29 * daja77 hides
17:30 < daja77> rolla: do you try appearing in my dreams like esden?
17:30 < rolla> nein
17:30 < daja77> good
17:31 < n00kie> automake (GNU automake) 1.7.3
17:31 < Mike1> daja77: you have dreams of esden? you freak!
17:31 < n00kie> Maybe you should update
17:31 < esden> lol
17:31 < daja77> Mike1: fortunately not, until now *g*
17:31 < rolla> ;)
17:32 < rolla> the test begins
17:32 < Mike1> esden: God bless you btw
17:32 < n00kie> Mike1: You have dreams of GeForce? you freak! :)
17:32 < rolla> if it fails then I come after daja77
17:32 * daja77 hides again
17:32 < esden> bless you too Mike1 
17:32 < esden> god bless you daja77, rolla 
17:32 < Mike1> n00kie: all the time GeForce 4 mx :)
17:32 < daja77> hehe esden wb, rolla will haunt me
17:32 < n00kie> Mike1: eheh :)
17:32 -!- JTBurn [JTBurn@pD9E7F7F9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
17:32 < esden> daja77: hopefully ;-)
17:33 < n00kie> hola JTBurn
17:33 < daja77> oh no...
17:33 < esden> hi JTBurn 
17:33 < n00kie> Comó esta usted? ;)
17:33 < rolla> well acl just died and I am sure coreutil will died next
17:33 < JTBurn> hiho :)
17:33 < n00kie> Right, Mike1? :)
17:33 < Mike1> n00kie: perfect :)
17:33 < daja77> acl fails for another reason, btw update your src rolla, acl should be in 5 and 9 only
17:34 < daja77> == 17:28:48 =[5]=> Building kde31/quanta31 [3.1 2.0.0-beta].
17:34 < n00kie> KDE3.1 ?
17:34 < n00kie> Have fun! :))
17:34 < esden> == 17:31:40 =[5]=> Building rene/xemacs [21.4.12 1.7-snapshot]. <- YUCK
17:34 < rolla> okay I will run cvs update if coreutil builds
17:34 < n00kie> Downloading download/base/grep/grep-2.5.1.tar.bz2 ...
17:34 < n00kie> ######################################################################## 100.0%
17:34 < n00kie> Finished downloading 559232 bytes in 10.744 seconds (52050.633 bytes/sec).
17:34 < n00kie> cksum-test (bzip2): download/base/grep/grep-2.5.1.tar.bz2
17:34 < daja77> lol, /me votes to remove it...
17:34 < n00kie> *g*
17:34 < rolla> esden: I could not agree more
17:35 < esden> yes remove xemacs from rock !!!
17:35 < rolla> let the emacs users pull it down if they want it :)
17:35 < esden> who wants to dare his life to propose that removal to rxr?
17:35 < daja77> esden: rm -rf *emacs*
17:35 < rolla> vi should be the only core editor on unix
17:35 < rolla> I'll do it
17:35 < daja77> esden: you are elected...
17:35 < rolla> it is a waste of space
17:36 < esden> daja77: die
17:36 * JTBurn is downloading dRock 2.0.0-beta *g*
17:36 < daja77> rolla: ack + waste of compile time
17:36 < rolla> in fact I unistall it from any system I get my hands on
17:36 < daja77> esden: nope :p
17:36 < esden> daja77: hear to your master and die
17:37 < daja77> lol
17:37 < JTBurn> oh a godlike person in chan :)
17:37 < daja77> esden: you didn't manage to appear in my dreams, how should I call you master :p
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17:37 < rolla> JTBurn: nein
17:38 < daja77> no clifford is not here...
17:38 < n00kie> he means rolla
17:38 < esden> daja77: /me was only lazy ...
17:38 < JTBurn> oh and I would bow me ...
17:38 < daja77> esden: haha
17:38 < esden> and I was not willing to see your nasty dreams ...
17:39 < daja77> esden: there are fun...
17:39 < daja77> they
17:39 < rolla> n00kie: he does not mean me
17:40 < esden> daja77: no ... thanks ... these dreams are too much for my mastermind ;-)
17:40 < n00kie> rolla: Yeah, he does
17:40 < daja77> hehehe, don't like to see beautyful girls...
17:40 < esden> JTBurn: clifford is one of the masters ...
17:41 < esden> or godlike persons
17:41 < rolla> wow 1.7 coreutil built
17:41 < JTBurn> ok.
17:41 < rolla> thanks daja77
17:41 < daja77> rolla: good :)
17:41 < esden> daja77: I do not want to see what you mean by beautyfull
17:41 < daja77> esden: i don't wanna share...
17:42 < n00kie> esden: >70old Grandpas ;)
17:42 < esden> daja77: that is good!
17:42 * n00kie is ducking behing daja77
17:42 < esden> n00kie: for sure!
17:42 * daja77 wonders if esden has seen Auge's gallery
17:42 < rolla> daja77: I am now running cvs -z 9 update -d -P and the puzzle
17:42 < esden> o_O
17:42 < esden> rolla: Puzzle?
17:43 < rolla> ./script/Puzzle
17:43 < esden> what for?
17:43 < rolla> esden: cause it is habit from 1.5 ;)
17:43 < esden> ahh ok
17:43 < rolla> sorry I don't go to the WC without running ./script/Puzzle ;)
17:44 < daja77> lol
17:44 < rxr> re
17:44 < rolla> re rxr
17:44 < Mike1> welcome back rxr
17:44 < daja77> hi rxr
17:44 < daja77> esden: make your claim *g*
17:44 < Mike1> rxr: i have some results for you after testing beta release
17:45 < rxr> hm good or bad ?
17:45 < Mike1> rxr: both
17:45 * n00kie finished with downloading
17:45 < Mike1> rxr: but in the end everything is good as this will help the tree to get stable
17:45 < n00kie> now building :)
17:46 < Mike1> rxr: - RPM package seems to be broken it will drop an 'Invalid Arguments' error, during install, and it will not chnage if i try to do it after install manually.
17:46 < rxr> wow - kde-3.1.2 is on it's way
17:46 < daja77> oh no
17:46 < Mike1> rxr: - Gnome-session is missing so gnome2 will not run at all.
17:47 < rxr> do you did a binary install or a source build ?
17:47 < Mike1> rxr: i hope you are not considering to update kde now that we are this close to a stable release.
17:47 < Mike1> rxr: binary.
17:47 < Mike1> rxr: i tested _your_ beta iso
17:47 < rxr> well kde updating are only around 10 packages without side-effects ...
17:48 < esden> huhu rolla 
17:48 < esden> erm
17:48 < esden> huhu rxr 
17:48 < esden> grr
17:48 * -> esden kicks irssi
17:48 < rxr> we'll see - takes one week until the kde release and four to five for our final anyway.
17:48 < rxr> hi esden
17:48 < rxr> i never tested rpm so ...
17:49 < esden> hmm ... clifford should run Create-CopyPatch
17:49 < rxr> the gnome-session thing might be caused by various rebuilds of the packages until I had fixed many build errors to release it
17:49 < Mike1> rxr: - it is not possible to re-compile the kernel, it scream because gnu/stubs.h is missing
17:49 < rxr> oh :-(
17:50 < Mike1> rxr: at least this happens when trying to run make menuconfig
17:51 < Mike1> rxr: you can have a look at /scripts/lxdialog/checklist.o
17:51 < rxr> a hi see also a rebuild problem
17:51 < rxr> package/base/glibc23/glibc23.conf
17:51 < rxr> misses a -f for touch - shit
17:51 < Mike1> rxr: in the other hand KDE works sweet
17:52 < daja77> Mike1: my iso should be ready tomorrow interested?
17:52 < Mike1> daja77: well i can test it if you want :)
17:52 < daja77> Mike1: it is rene's beta but a clean build ;)
17:53 < rolla> what is dillo
17:53 < rolla> and why is it a required package
17:53 < rxr> rolla: a light web browser
17:53 < Mike1> daja77: i know. Sent it over my lack of time doesn't give me much time for building and debugging atm, but i can test isos, and submit the error i find for others to fix them
17:53 < rxr> rolla: in which way is it required ?
17:54 < rolla> when I do a download required
17:54 < rolla> it comes down
17:54 < rolla> or trys too
17:54 < daja77> well Mike1 you can download it somehow tomorrow, but I have isdn only :(
17:54 < rxr> anything you selected is required ...
17:54 < rxr> rolla: either do a install build to get as less packages as necessary - or disable dillo or so in the config ...
17:55 < rolla> :)
17:55 < rolla> I was just wondering cause it failed to download
17:55 < n00kie> == 17:48:55 =[0]=> Building base/glibc23 [2.3.2 1.7-snapshot].
17:56 < daja77> rxr: do you need errlogs from my build?
17:56 < daja77> rev 126 btw
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17:59 * Mike1 needs to test his packages... downloading latest rock cvs
18:00 < rxr> daja77: nope - I have enought myself ...
18:00 * rxr just fixed some rebuld box
18:00 < daja77> rxr: hehe ok
18:01 < rxr> daja77: I'll also release a -beta2 when my build is finished (this time without hefty rebuilds - they where only caused by stupid bugs in rock cvs the last time)
18:02 < daja77> hmm ok, I hope I do not waste time with my build...
18:03 < n00kie> == 17:58:53 =[0]=> Building base/binutils [2.13.90.0.18 1.7-snapshot].
18:04 < n00kie> == 18:03:04 =[0]=> Building base/gcc3 [3.2.2 1.7-snapshot].
18:04 < rxr> nope - why do you think you waste time with your build ?
18:04 < daja77> hmm is there a decent way to propagate an environmet of a shell to its fork?
18:04 < n00kie> rxr: Alpha works on my machine perferkt
18:05 < daja77> rxr: ah no, I just hope that the isos I get out of it, will work
18:05 < rxr> daja77: I think so
18:05 < daja77> :)
18:06 < daja77> rxr: btw watching the build via ssh, thx to dyndns :)
18:06 < rxr> with the svn tree you are more imune to crazy build bugs - they won't survive so long in it ...
18:06 < daja77> hehe
18:06 < rxr> daja77: are this isn't a local box ? Where is it located?
18:07 < daja77> the box for chatting, at university, but I am at work right now, the build is on the machine you already know :)
18:08 * daja77 got a box for himself at university some hours ago (not the chat box)
18:09 < daja77> any ideas for the shell question?
18:10 < rxr> shell question ?
18:11 < daja77>  daja77> hmm is there a decent way to propagate an environmet of a shell
18:11 < daja77>                 to its fork?
18:12 < daja77> *argh* copy & paste is a mess
18:16 < daja77> O_o mom I'll have to check something
18:16 < rxr> hm
18:16 < rolla> daja77: I am starting the build again :)
18:16 < daja77> rolla: good, hope it will be better now
18:17 * rxr committing
18:17 < rolla> it failed no nasm
18:17 < rolla> what package is that with ?
18:18 < daja77> O_o dunno
18:18 < daja77> which package failed?
18:19 < rxr> Committed revision 128.
18:19 < rolla> lilo
18:19 < rxr> merge with cliff cvs - so use with care ...
18:20 < daja77> ah yes I remember, but you will not lilo anyway, right?
18:20 < rolla> correct but I like to have it all work :)
18:20 < rxr> rolla: which stage of lilo is this ? - nasm was not build before lilo ?
18:20 < rxr> rolla: *nodding* me too ;-)
18:20 < rolla> 1
18:21 < rolla> it is an error on my part for not having nasm install on system
18:22 < rxr> no this is _not an error_
18:22 < rxr> (of your part)
18:22 < rolla> ?
18:22 < rolla> what must I do to fix it?
18:22 < rxr> do you use subversion ?
18:22 < rolla> ?
18:23 < rolla> I do not understand the question
18:24 < daja77> subversion is a cvs replacement
18:25 < rolla> I have never heard of it
18:25 < Mike1> cooler than cvs :)
18:25 < rolla> reallt
18:25 < rolla> website?
18:25 < rolla> rxr I install nasm on my system and lilo builds fine
18:25 < rxr> https://subversion.tigris.org/
18:25 < rxr> yeah - this is a work arround - I here removed stage-1 from lilo since grub also is noly build in stage-5 and we do not want to require nasm to build rock ...
18:26 < rxr> rolla: I use subversion for my stable tree
18:26 < rxr> https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/
18:26 < rolla> okay
18:27 < rolla> I will download and compile it and see if I like it
18:27 * daja77 hears drums O_o
18:27 < rolla> tcr you here?
18:27 < rxr> daja77: why do you hear drums ?
18:28 < rxr> btw my 2.5 kernel has now this uptime :
18:28 < rxr>  18:31:08 up 2 days, 18:08,  2 users,  load average: 0.52, 0.59, 1.06
18:28 * rxr happy and/or lucky ;-)
18:28 < daja77> rxr: dunno seems to be a concert here at a short distance
18:29 < esden> 18:28:55 up 351 days, 18:35,  3 users,  load average: 0.09, 0.08, 0.09 <- muahaha
18:29 < Mike1> esden: you 351 days up are insignificant to me :)
18:29 < Mike1> your*
18:31 < rxr> my private server here also has "58 days,  1:03," ...
18:31 < Mike1> :))
18:31 -!- JTBurn is now known as JTBurn]aw[
18:31 < rxr> I guess one wont reach more than a year for a server hosted in a private household ...
18:32 < rolla> rxr warum?
18:32 < esden> rxr: ack ;-)
18:32 < rolla> I had home system up for over 300+ days at home
18:32 * Ge0rG had 804 days once. and then something broke
18:33 * Mike1 highest uptime have been 849 days
18:34 < Mike1> then the hd broke ...:(
18:34 < daja77> lol
18:34 < Mike1> daja77: not funny, my goal is to reach 1000 days
18:35 < rxr> when doing a svn update from my tree you have to run:
18:35 < rxr> move build/*1.7-snapshot* build/* 2.0.0-beta2* ...
18:35 < rxr> to cintinue a  build ..
18:35 < daja77> it is funny, cos I told a friend once, that linux runs until hardware crashes (unlike $other_systems)
18:35 < daja77> rxr: no
18:36 < rxr> daja77: hm ?
18:36 < daja77> oh ok sorry, I restarted build, not continued
18:36 < daja77> I didn't move anything
18:36 < rolla> == 05:44:27 =[2]=> Building base/gcc3 [3.2.3 1.7-snapshot].
18:37 * Mike1 bored to dead
18:37 < daja77> Mike1: code! *gg*
18:37 < Mike1> i am...
18:38 < daja77> strange I thought it is fun to you
18:38 < rxr> daja77: but restart will start a new one - not continue an old
18:38 < Mike1> daja77: not asp...
18:38 < daja77> rxr: I know I should read your statements more intensively ;)
18:38 < daja77> Mike1: asp O_o why that
18:39 < Mike1> daja77: a custommer thingy
18:39 * daja77 gets some coffee for Mike1 
18:40 < Mike1> daja77: thanks
18:41 < daja77> bah I don't get it
18:41 * Mike1 away
18:44 < _NULL_> re
18:44 < daja77> wb _NULL_
18:46 < _NULL_> thx
18:46 < rxr> hi _NULL_ !
18:46 < _NULL_> hi rxr
18:47 < rxr> rene/gtoaster has a stange endless loop bug during latest build - strange
18:49 < daja77> *argh* why is $root empty when I am using it
18:49 -!- ak|ra [~gumz@153.96.158.129] has joined #rocklinux
18:51 < ak|ra> hi und wieder wech
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18:52 < daja77> oh fine thx for your contribution, please rejoin soon *shakehead*
18:53 < rxr> *lol*
18:53 < n00kie> hmm
18:54 < _NULL_> strange people in this channel... (and the most weird one is me...)
18:54 < esden> daja77: well said ;-)
18:54 < n00kie> == 18:15:24 =[1]=> Building base/linux24 [2.4.20 1.7-snapshot]. <- sind 40 minutes
18:54 < n00kie> isn't that a bit long?
18:54 < rxr> hm - not that long
18:54 < esden> daja77: perhups he/her ist too fast for you ... ;-)
18:54 < rolla> n00kie: not on your slow box
18:54 < n00kie> when i compile a kernel from source i need about ~15 minute
18:54 < rxr> rolla: how slow is the box ?
18:54 < daja77> hehe I don't care..
18:55 < rolla> rxr: I am joking n00kie has an Athlon
18:55 < rxr> er n00kie sorry
18:55 < rolla> much faster than my k6-3
18:55 < n00kie> its slow, yes
18:55 < rxr> n00kie: this might be due to all modules selected for the build (any many compiled in drivers)
18:56 < n00kie> ah
18:56 < rxr> + the extra sandbox file-io tracing time
18:56 < n00kie> alright :)
18:57 * rolla wonders off to find lunch
18:58 < rxr> some auto-dung lover laking a look into gtoaster?
18:58 < daja77> nooo thx
18:59 < rxr> arhgs - my currentl build exposes even new bugs ...
18:59 * daja77 fighting with rtai
18:59 < rxr> checking for the kernel version... unsupported (2.5.68)
18:59 < rxr> configure: error: Valgrind works on kernels 2.2 and 2.4
18:59 < rxr> --- BUILD ERROR ---
19:00 < daja77> these bastards
19:00 < esden> they killed kernelkenny. you bastards ;-)
19:00 < n00kie> LOL esden
19:00 < daja77> lol
19:01 < rxr> esden: hehe - we just watched the South Park move yesterday
19:01 < esden> we need more humor in the rocklinux build system ...
19:01 < rxr> pffr
19:01 < n00kie> well, the ne "mascott" of rock linux should be kernelkenny ;)
19:02 < daja77> esden: we have lots of it
19:02 < Mike1> n00kie: sorry blindcoder is the official mascott
19:02 < esden> yes: ls /var/adm/logs/*err | wc -l 100000
19:02 * Mike1 pets blindcoder
19:03 < daja77> hehe
19:03 < esden> what a black humor when packages do not compile ...
19:03 < esden> or the cd's are not booting
19:03 < n00kie> ehehe ;)
19:04 < daja77> esden: this sort of humor...
19:04 < esden> I am loughing everytime I see something is broken ... "yes yes ... that is a nice joke... you stupid buildsystem you want to tell me that I have to work? FORGET IT :P"
19:05 * daja77 puzzled
19:05 < Mike1> daja77: esden is almost as lazy as you are...
19:06 < esden> Mike1: no my lazyness value is much higher then his ;-)
19:06 < daja77> Mike1: I have a line in rtai.conf: eval ./configure --linuxdir "$root/usr/src/linux", but it seems that $root is empty
19:07 < Mike1> esden: someone more lazy than daja77? are you sure this is possible?
19:07 < rxr> *lol*
19:07 < rxr> Programmers! Make your software Valgrind-clean. Test it with Valgrind and fix all problems Valgrind reports. This will give you some assurance that your code is free of a broad class of memory management errors. You may well find undiscovered bugs, and your code will probably be more stable as a result. It's good for your code, good for you and especially it's good for the people who use your code.
19:07 < rxr> Don't delay -- Valgrind today.
19:07 < daja77> *argh* wtf
19:07 < Mike1> lol
19:10 < _NULL_> valgrind?
19:10 < daja77> Mike1: any ideas?
19:11 < Mike1> daja77: mmm..
19:11 < Mike1> daja77: who exactly is $root btw?
19:11 < Mike1> are you sure you are looking at the right place
19:12 < daja77> $root should be expanded to the build root dir
19:12 < daja77> or does it only work in Build-Target?
19:16 < rxr> daja77: nope
19:16 < daja77> damn but it doesn't work
19:16 < rxr> in any package build via Build-Pkg
19:17 < daja77> hmm
19:17 < rxr> Build-Pkg:              if [ $stagelevel -gt 0 ]; then root="build/$ROCKCFG_ID/root"
19:18 < rxr> Build-Pkg:              else root="build/$ROCKCFG_ID/$toolsdir"; fi
19:18 < rxr> Build-Pkg:[ "$root" -a "${root#/}" = "$root" ] && root="$base/$root"
19:18 < rxr> Build-Pkg:prefix=${prefix%/} ; prefix=${prefix#/} ; root=${root%/}
19:18 < rxr> Build-Pkg:xroot="$root" ; [ $stagelevel -gt 1 ] && root=""
19:18 < daja77> well I do a configure --linuxdir $root/usr/src/linux and /usr/src/linux is used
19:19 < rxr> do you do a Build-Pkg in your current system ?
19:19 < daja77> no in a rock src tree
19:19 < rxr> yeah - but manually ?
19:20 < daja77> ahem yes
19:20 < rxr> a single ping - err so too much Red October - Build-Pkg ?
19:20 < rxr> so $root is = "" since you install in your running system
19:20 < daja77> huh?
19:20 < rxr> the same for stage 3-9 it is "" since it is installed in the sandbox
19:20 < rolla> rxr you are a fan of clancey?
19:20 < daja77> scripts/Build-Pkg -cfg realtime rtai
19:21 < rxr> the only case $root != "" is stage 0-2 then it is $base/build/$id/root ...
19:21 < rxr> daja77: where do you'want this package to be installed? in a build/$id tree ?
19:21 < daja77> yes
19:22 < rxr> rolla: depends - it's just a cool movie.
19:22 < daja77> I need to point the kernel src used suring Build-target
19:22 < rolla> true but it is a better book
19:23 < rxr> daja77: you want:
19:23 < rxr> either: Build-Pkg with -root (or even more params)
19:23 < rxr> or: .Build-Job -cfg rtai 5-rtai
19:24 < rxr> daja77: let's talk a bit
19:24 < rxr> what should your rtai target do?
19:24 < daja77> ah I'll try this
19:24 < rxr> providing a patched kernel and special user-space apps ?
19:24 * n00kie building glibc
19:25 < daja77> a patched kernel + additional kernel modules + sample apps from rtai package
19:25 < rxr> ok
19:25 < rxr> what is in the rtai package ?
19:26 < daja77> hmm kernel patches, kernel modules and sample + test apps + documentation
19:26 < daja77> No such job: 5-rtai (build/realtime-1.7-snapshot-x86-realtime-expert/queue/5-rtai.job)!
19:27 < rxr> hm - what should the rtai package acually install ? a kernel, modules, the app and more ? - all in one packages ?
19:27 < daja77> more or less, of course I apply the patch to linux24 package, so that the kernel is already patched in target distro
19:28 < daja77> hmm Build-Pkg has no -root param
19:29 < daja77> aaaah
19:30 < rxr> ah ok
19:30 < daja77> just for the log: scripts/Build-Pkg -cfg realtime -job 5-rtai
19:32 < rxr> ah yes or this way (confused it with Build-Job ...) sorry
19:33 < daja77> well the thing is I want to ship a distro with all this stuff enabled as default, which hopefully prevents me from explaining the lusers too much
19:33 < rxr> sure - I just wanted to make some comments about how a target should construct your things up ...
19:33 < daja77> feel free to do so
19:34 < rxr> na - I wanted to start above - but you seem to do it quite ok ;-)
19:34 < n00kie> == 05/06/03 19:34:06 =[1]=> Finished building package glibc23.
19:34 < n00kie> == 19:34:07 =[1]=> Building base/dietlibc [0.22 1.7-snapshot].
19:34 < daja77> hehe thx
19:35 < rxr> n00kie: dietlibs compiles just fast, hehe?
19:35 < daja77> and thx esden my friend
19:35 < n00kie> hehe
19:35 < n00kie> i just started
19:36 < n00kie> yep rxr
19:36 < n00kie> == 05/06/03 19:35:36 =[1]=> Finished building package dietlibc.
19:36 < n00kie> == 19:35:37 =[1]=> Building base/binutils [2.13.90.0.18 1.7-snapshot].
19:37 < daja77> this will take longer
19:37 < n00kie> yea
19:37 < daja77> btw anyone noticed that glibc takes as much compile time as Xfree86 >_<
19:38 < n00kie> it took me about 50m :)
19:38 < rxr> daja77: anyone noticed that glibc sucks ?
19:38 < daja77> rxr: sure
19:39 < n00kie> How long would take me gcc ?
19:39 < Mike1> n00kie: 4 days
19:39 < blindcoder> hi all
19:39 < Mike1> *g jk
19:39 < Mike1> hi blindy
19:39 < daja77> rxr: wanna listen to fefe's dietlibc speech at chemnitzer linuxtag last year?
19:39 < n00kie> Mike1: Minimal...
19:39 < n00kie> blindcoder our mascott :p
19:39 < Mike1> n00kie: one hour os so
19:39 < blindcoder> n00kie: ??????
19:39 < esden> re blindcoder 
19:40 < blindcoder> re esdi *hug*
19:40 < Mike1> blindy it have been stated yhat you are our official mascott
19:40 < n00kie> <Mike1> n00kie: sorry blindcoder is the official mascott
19:40 < n00kie> <esden> yes: ls /var/adm/logs/*err | wc -l 100000
19:40 < n00kie> * Mike1 pets
19:40 < n00kie> ;)
19:40 * Mike1 pets blindcoder
19:40 < Mike1> :P
19:40 * blindcoder puts on Mathilda costume and moos through the channel
19:40 < esden> *rehug* blindcoder 
19:41 < n00kie> Hola blindcoder
19:41 < Mike1> n00kie: now practice the seocnd part of the greeting, as i told ya earlier.
19:41 < blindcoder> wuhah.... I'll sleep good tongiht
19:41 < n00kie> hmm
19:41 < n00kie> on 10th may, are 3 important things
19:42 < Mike1> blindcoder: why?\
19:42 < esden> blindcoder: you have drunk?
19:42 < n00kie> wait Mike1
19:42 < blindcoder> esden: no(t yet)
19:42 < blindcoder> Mike1: have been to fitness studio today. "Circle training" and biking
19:42 < esden> blindcoder: goood!
19:43 < blindcoder> if the dentist on thursday lets mi live then I'll go again then
19:43 < n00kie> Mike1: I forgot
19:43 < n00kie> gracias
19:43 < blindcoder> I'm aiming at at least twice a week, max three times as commanded by trainer ;P
19:43 < blindcoder> but the studio is GREAT
19:44 * daja77 meditating over bash source code
19:44 < blindcoder> shower, whirlpool, "dampfbad", rest room....
19:44 < esden> blindcoder: nice chicks?
19:44 < blindcoder> esden: yes, that too :D
19:44 < blindcoder> esden: combined FKK-Area at whirlpool and sauna
19:44 < esden> blindcoder is in his element ;-)
19:44 < blindcoder> esden: not really... I don't like FKK as you know
19:44 < esden> lol ...
19:45 < blindcoder> well, net before two or three beer, that is
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19:46 < blindcoder> now all I'd need was an onsen in the backyard *MWAHAHAHAHA*
19:47 < esden> blindcoder: who does not!
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19:51 < blindcoder> hmm... I think I'll lie down and read some manga now
19:51 < blindcoder> see ya tomorrow!
19:51 < Mike1> cu blindcoder
19:52 < daja77> yeah I found some error
19:53 < daja77> rxr: btw I'd need testers...
19:54 -!- Lorini is now known as LoriAW
19:54 < Mike1> LoriAW: !
19:55 < daja77> Mike1: teach her about /away ;)
19:55 < Mike1> daja77: maybe someday when i am not busy.
19:55 < daja77> *g*
19:58 < _NULL_> why are there just drivers for digital cameras for windows? why? why? why? *becoming angry*
19:58 < daja77> _NULL_: if you have a flash card reader, you probably don't need a special driver
19:58 < Mike1> hehe :)
19:59 < rolla> == 12:54:44 =[2]=> Building base/binutils [2.13.90.0.20 1.7-snapshot].
19:59 < daja77> _NULL_: which camera
19:59 < daja77> rolla: great
19:59 < _NULL_> daja77: nytech nd-3200
19:59 < rolla> ja
19:59 < daja77> O_o never heard of it
19:59 < daja77> _NULL_: digicam or webcam
19:59 < _NULL_> daja77: digi
20:00 < daja77> hmm tried the latest gphoto?
20:00 < _NULL_> nope.
20:01 < daja77> hmmm try
20:04 < rolla> hallo _NULL_
20:04 < daja77> _NULL_: it is not listed on supported cams, but can you see something in usb output?
20:05 < _NULL_> i still haven't it attached on my notebook... still i need to configure it for using win...
20:05 < daja77> ah k.
20:06 < daja77> well I'm gonna leave now
20:06 < _NULL_> ok. bye daja77
20:12 < kasc> moin
20:12 < esden> hoho kasc 
20:12 < esden> cu daja77 
20:12 < kasc> hoho? xmas time again?
20:13 < esden> ok ... then: huhu kasc 
20:13 < kasc> :)
20:15 < kasc> did we ever have a package for swig?
20:25 * Mike1 is away: eating.. i _LOVE_ fish :)
20:32 < rxr> daja77: you need testers ?
20:37 < rxr> strange trolls on the rock-linux list - mail sent
20:37 < rxr> *wunder*
20:38 < rxr> urghs
20:38 < rxr> May  6 19:57:27 heap kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 32630 (httpd).
20:45 < rxr> hm - I the rock-linux db has some problems here - it is out of order until I have some time tonight - sorry
20:45 < rxr> Berkeley DB error while reading transaction for filesystem /home/svn/rock-linux/db: Invalid argument
20:46 < rxr> cu later
20:47 -!- JTBurn]aw[ is now known as JTBurn]on[
20:48 < JTBurn]on[> re
20:50 -!- JTBurn]on[ is now known as JTBurn
20:51 < n00kie> wb JTBurn
20:52 < rolla> re
20:54 < JTBurn> oh no my dRock linux still needs about 45 min. to download....
20:54 < rolla> :)
20:56 < n00kie> == 20:51:48 =[5]=> Building base/linux24 [2.4.20 1.7-snapshot].
21:11 < rolla> == 14:12:57 =[3]=> Building base/dietlibc [0.22 1.7-snapshot].
21:12 < _NULL_> .oO (guys playing the game "my cpu is faster than yours" )
21:17 < n00kie> rolla has faster cpu
21:17 < n00kie> i need faster cpu
21:17 < n00kie> amd opteron :)
21:21 < n00kie> == 21:19:58 =[5]=> Building base/glibc23 [2.3.2 1.7-snapshot].
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21:33 < n00kie> gn8 ;(
21:33 < n00kie> ;)
21:36 * Mike1 is back (gone 01:10:57)
21:36 < Mike1> re
21:37 < esden> re
21:37 < esden> ahh nice ... CCS rulez ;-)
21:37 * JTBurn is installing dRock :)
21:38 < esden> you mean drock target
21:38 < JTBurn> drock 2.0.0 beta
21:39 < esden> no it is rocklinux 2.0.0 beta if you take it correctly
21:39 < esden> and you compiled the drock target
21:39 < esden> and are installing it now
21:39 < JTBurn> thats what I mean :)
21:39 < JTBurn> thx
21:39 < esden> i think I have to talk to rxr about that
21:39 < Mike1> esden: i already tried that
21:39 < esden> it is only naming ... but still 
21:40 < Mike1> esden: it will not work..
21:40 < JTBurn> Mike1: why ?
21:40 < esden> Mike1: we will see
21:40 < Mike1> esden: sure.
21:40 < Mike1> JTBurn: he will keep the 'dROCK' name no matter what we say i think.
21:41 < esden> if he does that means war ...
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21:41 < esden> he can use drock but for the target 
21:41 < esden> what it is ...
21:41 < esden> but what he is releasing is not drock .. it is rockliunx ...
21:41 < esden> wath stabilazed drock target
21:41 < esden> grml
21:42 < _NULL_> esden: ???
21:42 < esden> the isos he releases are drock that is right
21:42 < esden> but we really should do something about the naming stuff
21:43 < esden> before it is too late ... if it is not already too late
21:44 < Mike1> esden: i know, but i'm not sure he will care about it.
21:44 < Mike1> ping rxr
21:45 < Mike1> esden: maybe we could talk about it if he is around
21:45 < esden> Mike1: do not think so negative
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21:45 < Mike1> esden: there are other things which i do not like such as the CHANGELOG-<NAME> thing
21:45 < Mike1> why not just keep it CHANGELOG-<YEAR>
21:46 < esden> Mike1: run CHANGELOG
21:46 < rolla> it is only a k6-3 :(
21:47 < esden> then you get merged changelog
21:47 < Mike1> esden: still i don't know why have this...
21:47 < Mike1> i don't like it.
21:47 -!- hackbard [frank-z@pc05ep4.Physik.Uni-Augsburg.DE] has joined #rocklinux
21:47 < esden> because it is easier to get in sysc
21:47 < hackbard> hi
21:47 < rolla> == 14:48:20 =[3]=> Building base/coreutils [5.0 1.7-snapshot].
21:47 < rolla> -> Reading package configuration from package directory.
21:47 < rolla> -> Preparing build in src.coreutils.1052250498.11737.3607747644
21:47 < rolla> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/3-coreutils.out
21:47 < rolla> !>          you modified `Makefile.am', `acinclude.m4' or ` ..
21:47 < rolla> !>          You might want to install the `Automake' and `P ..
21:47 < rolla> !>          Grab them from any GNU archive site.
21:47 < _NULL_> hi hackbard
21:47 < rolla> !> cd . && /bin/sh /R.work/src.coreutils.1052250498.11737.3 ..
21:47 < rolla> !> /usr/bin/autoconf: line 271: /raid/rock-src-1.7/build/de ..
21:47 < rolla> !> /usr/bin/autoconf: line 271: exec: /raid/rock-src-1.7/bu ..
21:47 < rolla> !> make: *** [configure] Error 1
21:47 < rolla> -> $root/var/adm/logs/3-coreutils.out -> 3-coreutils.err
21:47 < rolla> == 05/06/03 14:50:55 =[3]=> Aborted building package coreutils.
21:48 < rolla> crap
21:48 < esden> everyone can write his changelog without having to bother clifford
21:48 < esden> and then merging the changlogs when the trees get merged
21:48 < Mike1> esden: might be...
21:48 < Mike1> esden: but i don't know.
21:48 < Mike1> hi hackbard
21:50 < rolla> re hackbard
21:51 < esden> hi hackbard 
21:51 < esden> rolla: I have the same problem here ... creating a patch now
21:52 < hackbard> hey esden :)
21:52 < hackbard> how is dietlibs doing?
21:52 < hackbard> hi rolla
21:52 < hackbard> c
21:52 < rolla> esden: thanks
21:54 < esden> hackbard: it is compiling till stage 2 without a problem ... but I have to change a bit in gcc to get it compiling in stage 2 ... other packages seem to compile without problems ... 
21:54 * -> esden running a test currently ... but I have to fix coreutils now ... because there is a plomem rolla mentioned
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22:05 < esden> rolla: test of the patch running
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22:14 < esden> that image rulez!!! : https://cheron.homeip.net/mashimaro_1662_178911.gif
22:16 < rolla> esden: you need help ;)
22:17 -!- hackbard is now known as hack|cin
22:17 < Mike1> esden: way cool image!! :))
22:18 < esden> it is really funny
22:18 < esden> rolla: it takes some time ... my machine is not so fast ...
22:18 < esden> but the patch failed somehow >_<
22:22 < rolla> yeah I know this sucks
22:23 < esden> argh ... I need a faster box!! *cry*
22:23 < esden> and a faster brain
22:34 < esden> ok running another test
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23:03 < rolla> esden: what are you running it on?
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23:11 < esden> rolla: athlon tb 1.2 GHZ
23:11 < esden> but I have a build running symultanously
23:13 < rolla> :)
23:13 < rolla> I am stuck on a PIII xeon 550 :(
23:13 < esden> :(
23:14 < rolla> yeah it is no fun I upgraded my other box to a K6-3 750
23:14 < rolla> but that is slow too
23:14 < Mike1> _yes_ it is
23:14 < rolla> you would know mike
23:25 < rxr> re
23:33 < Mike1> welcome back rxr
23:33 < Mike1> ping esden
23:39 < rolla> == 16:42:31 =[3]=> Building base/e2fsprogs [1.32 1.7-snapshot].
23:43 < Mike1> rolla: good :)
23:56 < Mike1> Good night all.
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