--- Log opened Fri May 09 00:00:55 2003
--- Day changed Fri May 09 2003
00:08 -!- Caspar [~steven261@M081P027.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux
00:09 < esden> ahh nice ... 2 mins and a cd is burned ...
00:09 < esden> I like that cdburner ;-)
00:09 < Caspar> ;)
00:09 < esden> hi Caspar 
00:09 < Caspar> hi
00:10 -!- Caspar_ [~steven261@M094P017.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux
00:11 < esden> Caspar_: ???
00:11 < Caspar_> yes?
00:11 < Caspar_> oh, my modem disconnected ;)
00:11 < esden> ahh I see
00:11 < Caspar_>  [3] base/coreutils                      [5] rene/eet
00:11 < Caspar_>  [5] rene/fribidi
00:11 < Caspar_> 677 builds total, 424 completed fine, 3 with errors.
00:11 < Caspar_> :)
00:12 < esden> nice
00:12 < esden> very nice
00:13 < esden> but you still have some way to go ...
00:13 < Caspar_> coreutils should be fixed, fribidi is because i forgot to download ;)
00:13 < Caspar_> i hope wine compiles ...
00:14 < esden> ok ... the p2 optimized build boot's
00:14 < esden> nice nice nice
00:16 < esden> that here is not so nice:
00:16 < esden> 1534 builds total, 1100 completed fine, 91 with errors.
00:16 < esden> the generic build
00:16 < esden> optimized for pentium
00:16 < Caspar_> :( i didn't try the generic build yet ...
00:16 < Mike1> 1530 builds total, 259 completed fine, 0 with errors.
00:19 < esden> Mike1: the errors will come ;-)
00:20 < esden> ok burning the second cd
00:20 < esden> netrunner requested them from me ;-)
00:21 < esden> one has to support new rockers ;-)
00:22 < esden> hehe 1 minute and ready ;-)
00:23 < Mike1> esden: sure, i am bughunting, evelutions and gnucash are my main targets, as they are the only 2 borken packages on my repos..
00:23 < Mike1> esden: i am a new rocker too, will you support / sponsor me?
00:23 < esden> Mike1: nope you are an old one ;-) ... but I can send you one of my builds ;-)
00:24 < Mike1> esden: sure why not :)
00:24 < Mike1> but hey i am not old :)
00:24 < esden> yes you are ... you are a grandpa
00:25 < Mike1> esden: you are older then me :)
00:25 < Mike1> in age and in developing for rock time :P
00:26 -!- Caspar__ [~steven261@M088P018.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux
00:26 < esden> Mike1: I have not compared your rocklinux age to mine ...
00:26 < esden> I am a dinosaur ;-)
00:26 < Mike1> esden: sure you are :)
00:26 < esden> ok ... cd's for netrunner are ready
00:27 < Mike1> Caspar__ quite a unstable conection huh?
00:27 < Caspar__> seems so - strange
00:27 -!- Caspar [~steven261@M081P027.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
00:28 * Caspar__ is cloned ;)
00:28 < rxr> re
00:28 < esden> wb rxr!
00:28 * -> esden is kuddling his new cdburner ;-)
00:29 < Mike1> lol
00:29 < Mike1> hi rxr
00:29 < Caspar__> hi rxr
00:33 < esden> urgh a yamaha burner with T@2 capability costs at ebay nearly 200EUR >_<
00:34 < esden> why the hell has yamaha stopped producing them >_<
00:35 < esden> or better they stopped producing any optical storage devices
00:35 < rxr> hi esden
00:35 < rxr> esden: can you recomment a apache log visualizer =
00:35 -!- Davey- [~dave@bc-trl-a53-01-95.look.ca] has joined #rocklinux
00:35 < rxr> argh
00:35 < Davey-> sup people
00:35 < rxr> today my fingers like the = ... s/=/?/
00:35 < Mike1> rxr: webalizer .. ?
00:36 < esden> rxr: I use webalizer
00:36 < rxr> currently I try http://awstats.sourceforge.net/
00:36 < Mike1> rxr: you didn't ask me but i though i could help..
00:36 < Davey-> I saw on distrowatch that  dROCK • 2.0.0-beta iso's are on there, and I was wondering are those bootable, like is that how u can install it or do you have to have a base system or what?
00:36 < rxr> Davey-: bootable
00:37 < rxr> incl. installer
00:37 < Davey-> nice :)
00:37 < Davey-> stable?
00:37 < rxr> -beta2 will be more stable ... ,)
00:37 < Mike1> Davey-: its a beta brother...
00:37 < esden> rxr: looks nice
00:38 < Mike1> esden: it might be worth to try it don't you think?
00:38 -!- Caspar_ [~steven261@M094P017.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
00:38 < Davey-> you guys actually have a pretty good amount of users in here :)
00:38 < Mike1> esden: looks prettier than webalizer at least...
00:38 < esden> Mike1: ack
00:38 < esden> Davey-: ack ;-)
00:39 < Davey-> ack ?
00:39 < Davey-> lol
00:39 < Mike1> esden: for one moment i thought i was been ignored
00:39 < Mike1> :)
00:39 < esden> Davey-: syn -> ack (icmp protocol)
00:39 < Davey-> yea...I know, but why was I told "ack" lol
00:39 < esden> but all protocols use this kind of handshake
00:39 < Mike1> Davey-: you are only whatching some of the people that is closer to the project, we have many more users :)
00:39 < esden> ack = acknowledge
00:40 < Davey-> glad to see some people are actually doin some work not like every other distro thats using r_dhat for their base
00:40 < esden> Mike1: ack (the next time ...)
00:40 < rxr> Davey-: ;-)
00:40 * -> esden should inclede ack in ircstats word watch
00:41 < rxr> esden: another Q
00:41 * Davey- throws some more compliments towards people actually doin work
00:41 < Mike1> esden: "<esden> Mike1: ack (the next time ...)" <--- didn't get this one
00:41 < rxr> esden: why are so many days unrecognized in your irc stat ?
00:41 < esden> rxr: my stats are bit broken ... I have to run a cleanup script ...
00:41 < esden> rxr: I do it in a moment
00:42 < rxr> esden: ah - the date "Unknown" is quite populated ...
00:42 < esden> Mike1: because I said ack the second time in a very short time ...
00:42 < Mike1> esden: ok..
00:43 < esden> rxr: when the day changes irssi is not inserting the current date propperly ... I have to fix that using a cleanup script
00:43 < esden> Davey-: thank you for the compliments ... we work hard for that 
00:43 < Davey-> haha
00:43 < Davey-> np
00:43 < esden> *G*
00:45 < Caspar__> awstats looksnice ;)
00:48 < rxr> oh - people with IE on my homepage ?
00:50 < esden> rxr: hehe ;-)
00:50 * -> esden was with ie on rxr's page
00:50 < rxr> really ?
00:50 < esden> while I was in bitz
00:50 < rxr> in the last few seconds ?
00:50 < esden> there are winxp boxes
00:50 < esden> nope
00:50 < esden> not in the last seconds
00:50 < rxr> I had to reconfigure the access format and so restart the log for this awstat
00:51 < Caspar__> one more error :( [5] gnome14/galeon12
00:51 * -> esden would like to see stats for the rocklinux.org and rocklinux.net pages
00:52 < Mike1> rxr: how long do think it will take 3 build generic on a dual Athlon MP 1.5ghz?
00:52 < Caspar__> oh - only shared files ;)
00:54 < rxr> Caspar__: hm ?
00:54 < Caspar__> var/opt/gnome/scrollkeeper/C/scrollkeeper_cl.xml: galeon12 glade10
00:54 < Caspar__> var/opt/gnome/scrollkeeper/C/scrollkeeper_extended_cl.xml: galeon12 glade10
00:54 < Mike1> rxr...?
00:55 < rxr> Mike1: hm - a generic. Did not build it for a long time - a desktop might take around 2 days or so without the rebuild stage
00:55 < rxr> Caspar__: already fixed - do an svn up
00:55 < Mike1> rxr: mm.. ok, 2 days on a 2x1500mhz box?
00:55 < Mike1> my god :((
00:56 < Caspar__> rxr: in the last 2 hours ?
00:56 < rxr> Mike1: Only a guess - after all the big bugs crawled into the tree over the last three weeks I have no time feeling anymore
00:56 < rxr> Caspar__: 10 minutes ago ;-)
00:56 < Mike1> rxr: poor rxr
00:56 < esden> ok ... stats fixed
00:57 < Caspar__> ;)
00:57 * Mike1 checking stats
00:57 < rxr> Mike1: the -beta was a pain - I can give you build times for -beta2 (much nicer)
00:57 < esden> for the ones that do not know it yet http://www.rocklinux.org/people/esden/ircstat/
00:57 < esden> rxr: are you syncing the beta fixes with cliff?
00:58 < Mike1> rxr: good.
00:58 < rxr> esden: yes sure.
00:58 < rxr> he has unapplied patches lying around for 2 or 3 days now
00:58 < esden> rxr: good
00:58 < Mike1> rxr: anyways when will beta2 be out? and when are you going to work fixing generic?
00:58 < rxr> and new are already waiting to be send ...
00:58 < esden> rxr: hmm ... he is back to busy state as it seems
00:58 < rxr> Mike1: fixing desktop means fixing generic, too.
00:59 < esden> rxr: do you make generic test builds?
00:59 < rxr> Mike1: but do not expect me to do all work - release manager / stable maintainer does not mean "people who does any crap" ...
00:59 < Mike1> rxr: i need to fix evoultion and gnuchas, and also wanna see how broken is generic, so will do that on the smp box first, then i will play around with your tree
00:59 < rxr> esden: this is a hardware limiting factor here
00:59 < esden> rxr: ok ... I download your svn stuff and build generic
00:59 < rxr> my box is continuesly busy with dektop and install builds
01:00 < esden> pentium2 optimizid ...
01:00 < rxr> but I could run a ( ./scripts/Cretae-ErrLst -newdelete ; ./scripta/Build-target -cfg generic )
01:00 < rxr> loop - but not complete rebuilds every week
01:00 < rxr> esden: that would be nice
01:00 < esden> rxr: ok ok ... I know that you are doing your best ... I try to help 
01:00 < Mike1> rxr: please don't missunderstand me, i am not trying to offend you or take credits away from ur work in drock, i was curious
01:01 < rxr> I already reduced the error count from > 100 to 27 or so ;-)
01:01 < esden> rxr: please tell me the svn link
01:01 < esden> I add it to the topic
01:01 < rxr> I expect 0 errors in the desktop confing in some days
01:01 < rxr> http://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk/
01:01 < esden> and how should the svn command sound?
01:02 < rxr> svn co http://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk/
01:03 -!- mode/#rocklinux [+o esden] by ChanServ
01:04 -!- esden changed the topic of #rocklinux to: OCK Linux 1.5/1.6 is depricated please use 1.7/2.0 instead : ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now ( clifford 1.7 tree: cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@clifford.homedns.org:/home/cvs co -P rock-src-1.7; rxr 2.0 tree: svn co http://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk/ )
01:04 <@esden> urgh that is long
01:04 -!- mode/#rocklinux [-o esden] by esden
01:05 < rxr> esden: you are crazy
01:05 < Davey-> haha
01:06 < esden> rxr: full ack ... and I am proud of it ;-)
01:07 < rxr> I know - that's good
01:07 * Davey- thinks u people say ack too much
01:08 * Caspar__ sees an error in topic ;)
01:08 < Davey-> me2
01:08 < Davey-> lol
01:08 < Mike1>  to: OCK Linux
01:08 < esden> Davey-: you may be right
01:09 < esden> ups
01:09 -!- mode/#rocklinux [+o esden] by ChanServ
01:09 -!- esden changed the topic of #rocklinux to: ROCK Linux 1.5/1.6 is depricated please use 1.7/2.0 instead : ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now ( clifford 1.7 tree: cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@clifford.homedns.org:/home/cvs co -P rock-src-1.7; rxr 2.0 tree: svn co http://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk/ )
01:09 -!- mode/#rocklinux [-o esden] by esden
01:09 < esden> better?
01:09 < Mike1> much better esden
01:09 < Caspar__> ;)
01:09 < esden> good
01:09 < esden> I am too tired ...
01:12 < Caspar__> rxr: just one more :( gimp14
01:13 < esden> argh /me has muscle ache
01:14 < rxr> Caspar__: you mean it is failing ?
01:14 < Caspar__> yes - compile error
01:14 < rxr> jups - known
01:14 < rxr> how many other errors do you have ?
01:15 < rxr> These are know (and scheduled for fix until sunday night):
01:15 < rxr> [3] base/pam                            [5] gnome2/gimp14
01:15 < rxr>  [5] rene/sylpheed                       [5] kde31/kdemultimedia31
01:15 < rxr>  [5] tibit/ctags                         [5] rene/koffice-i18n
01:15 < rxr>  [5] rene/kmatplot                       [5] mnemoc/openldap
01:15 < rxr>  [5] rene/wine                           [5] base/pam
01:15 < rxr>  [5] kasc/paragui                        [5] kasc/smpeg
01:15 < rxr>  [5] rene/anjuta                         [5] kasc/libsdl_perl
01:15 < rxr>  [5] kasc/openal                         [5] kasc/clanlib
01:15 < Caspar__>  [3] base/coreutils                      [5] rene/eet
01:15 < Caspar__>  [5] rene/fribidi                        [5] gnome14/galeon12
01:15 < Caspar__>  [5] gnome2/gimp14
01:15 < Caspar__> 677 builds total, 429 completed fine, 5 with errors.
01:15 < rxr>  [5] kasc/gnomemeeting                   [5] kasc/asc
01:15 < rxr>  [5] kasc/barrage                        [5] kasc/frozen-bubble
01:15 < rxr>  [5] kasc/kapitalist                     [5] kasc/openglad
01:15 < rxr>  [5] kasc/pingus                         [7] base/rfc
01:15 < rxr>  [7] x11/imagemagick
01:15 < rxr> 676 builds total, 651 completed fine, 25 with errors.
01:15 < rxr> some of the kasc urls are broken - so I even miss the files ...
01:16 < rxr> Caspar__: fibidi ??? What is it's error ?
01:16 < Caspar__> i forgot to download ;(
01:17 < rxr> :-(
01:17 < rxr> ah
01:17 < Caspar__> me too:
01:17 < Caspar__> root:/data/rock-svn/rock-trunk# ./scripts/Download -list-missing
01:17 < Caspar__> download/base/gccx/gcc-20030506.tar.bz2
01:17 < Caspar__> download/kasc/barrage/barrage-1.0.1.tar.bz2
01:17 < Caspar__> download/kasc/openal/openal-311202.tar.bz2
01:17 < Caspar__> download/kasc/smpeg/smpeg-0.4.5.tar.bz2
01:17 < Caspar__> download/mnemoc/lvs/ipvs-1.0.8.tar.bz2
01:17 < Caspar__> cantus-1.06-1.tar.bz2
01:18 < Caspar__> download/rene/subversion/subversion-0.22.0.tar.bz2
01:20 * -> esden building subversion ... it takes decades
01:21 < Caspar__> yesterday you said wine builds fine - now it is on your list ?
01:21 < rxr> Caspar__: it built fine in my current running system
01:21 < rxr> in the whole build (in the sandbox) it failed ... :-(
01:22 * Caspar__ would like to know why wine is so difficult to build :(
01:23 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux 1.5/1.6 is depricated please use 1.7/2.0 instead : ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now ( clifford 1.7 tree: cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@clifford.homedns.org:/home/cvs co -P rock-src-1.7; rxr 2.0 tree: svn co http://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk/ )
01:23 -!- Topic set by esden [Fri May  9 01:09:26 2003]
01:23 < rxr> Caspar__: it was never difficult to build
01:23 < rxr> it is just some strange inconsistency I need to figure out
01:23 < rxr> sometimes it misses HeapFree HeapAlloc for Direct3D
01:23 < rxr> I'll take a look into this soon
01:24 < Caspar__> if i would know what this means, i would help to fix it ...
01:24 < Mike1> == 17:20:09 =[5]=> Building x11/netpbm [10.12 1.7-snapshot].
01:24 < Mike1> == 12:30:42 =[5]=> Building base/linux24 [2.4.21-rc1 1.7-snapshot].
01:24 < Mike1> == 11:20:57 =[0]=> Building base/linux24-header [2.4.21-rc1 1.7-snapshot].
01:29 < Caspar__> rxr: did you fix the problem with coreutils/automake ?
01:29 < rxr> Caspar__: no sorry
01:29 < rxr> I worked the whole day writing Windows CAD software ...
01:29 < Caspar__> no real problem - coreutils is rebuild at stage 5 ;)
01:29 < rxr> currently I do some maintenace on my servers
01:31 < Caspar__> some days ago there was an discussion about kadzu and hwscan on the list - whats the status about this ?
01:31 < Mike1> rxr: the whole coreutils problems happens because acl-xattr.diff and no-broken-progs.patch modify configure.ac, so it screams because as it is modifed it required autoconf
01:31 < Mike1> rxr: on stage 5 it will build perfect because autoconf is there.
01:32 < esden> ok ... checing svn 2.0 trunk
01:32 < esden> grr ... i mean checking out 
01:32 < Mike1> rxr: i have fixed the problem on my private tree, but its kind of dirty
01:33 < Mike1> rxr: would you like me to send it a patch to you ?
01:33 < Mike1> -it
01:34 < rxr> Mike1: sure I'll take a look
01:34 < Mike1> rxr ok in a moment i sent it to you
01:35 < rxr> take your time - I'm busy anyway
01:35 < Mike1> rxr: i am busy too, but it won't take too long
01:35 * Caspar__ wants to detect graphic card and monitor like knoppix
01:36 * Mike1 has been forced to switch to smp mode...
01:37 < esden> Mike1: women are best at it ;-)
01:37 < rxr> Caspar__: we have our hwscan - and if you ask me kazu will not make it into ROCK
01:37 < Caspar__> it seems i could get graphic card detection by lspci and the Cards file of XFree
01:37 < rxr> Caspar__: hotplug alone is so dirty that we rewrite it ROCK-style
01:37 < Mike1> esden: ?
01:37 < rxr> (read keep it stupid simple)
01:37 < Caspar__> i dont want kazu - but i want detect my monitor :(
01:38 < rxr> Caspar__: sure
01:38 < rxr> we'll intrgrate hotplug and hwscan - and the monitor detection for X should be easy, too
01:38 < esden> svn_error: #21082 : <RA layer request failed>
01:38 < esden>   PROPFIND of /svn/rock-linux/!svn/bc/162/rock-tags/2.0.0-beta/package/rene/commonc%20%20: 404 Not Found
01:38 < Caspar__> the only package i've found so far which can read DCC info from montitor is kazu
01:38 < esden> argh!!!
01:38 < esden> I will check out it tomorrow or so ... >_<
01:39 < rxr> esden: what CMD line did you use ?
01:39 < esden> rxr: the one that is in the topic
01:39 < rxr> esden: which subversino version did you use
01:39 < esden> a too old one ... because I have not been able to compile the current one
01:39 < esden> due to a compile error
01:40 < Caspar__> rxr: why do you think monitor detection is easy ? i've font no info yet on www
01:40 < esden> subversion/mod_dav_svn/liveprops.c: In function `dav_svn_insert_prop':
01:40 < esden> subversion/mod_dav_svn/liveprops.c:310: parse error before "APR_UINT64_T_FMT"
01:40 < esden> make: *** [subversion/mod_dav_svn/liveprops.lo] Error 1
01:40 < rxr> Caspar__: I meant graphic card
01:40 < esden> I do not want the module
01:40 < rxr> the detection can be left to the xserver - see xrandr
01:40 < esden> but I have not found a switch to disable it ...
01:41 < rxr> which version was the new one you tried - and which is the one you are using now ?
01:41 < esden> 0.12.0
01:41 < rxr> wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
01:41 < esden> is the one I tryed now ...
01:41 < rxr> do you know how old this beast is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
01:41 < esden> I mean tryed to compile
01:42 < esden> urgh
01:42 < esden> sorry *hide*
01:42 < rxr> take 0.22.0
01:42 < rxr> or 0.21.0 !
01:42 < esden> ehhm I mean it was 0.21.0
01:42 < esden> not 12 ...
01:42 < rxr> ah
01:42 < rxr> puh ...
01:42 < Mike1> lol
01:43 < Mike1> rxr: you almost freak my friend
01:43 < rxr> esden: are you sure you used rock-trunk at the end of the url ?
01:43 < esden> I freaked the shit out of rxr too I think
01:43 < esden> yes ... wait I retry building 21
01:44 < rxr> I just doing a vanilla checkout here - and it runs fine so far
01:44 < Caspar__> rxr: xrandr looks like there has to be already a running X server ?
01:44 < Mike1> esden: you certainly did
01:46 < rxr> Caspar__: the the refresh rates to s.th. useable start X with a script that first uses xrandr to make a resolution choice based uppon the data provided
01:46 < esden> hehe ... outside is a storm ... and I hear guys crying around how cool that is ...
01:46 < esden> they must be drunk badly
01:46 < Mike1> lol
01:46 < Mike1> esden: some fireworks would rock if you really wanna scare them right now don't you think?
01:47 < esden> Mike1: yes fireworks in their direction ;-)
01:47 < Mike1> esden: we are evel
01:47 < Mike1> evil*
01:47 < esden> yes we are ;-)
01:47 < Caspar__> rxr: i'll try this out tomorrow ...
01:52 < rxr> [reminder] tomorrow is the offical chat!
01:53 < rxr> esden: works fine here:
01:53 < rxr> Checked out revision 162.
01:54 < rxr> oui - a working copy has a size of 82 MB
01:56 < esden> rxr: yes sure ... I remember ... I have to change the wellcome message of #rocklinux as requested by jocelin when I am back on my feet
01:57 < esden> my poor box ... it is building svn, alsa and mozilla symultanously ...
01:57 < esden> I really have to consider buying new hardware ... >_<
01:59 < Mike1> ahh, coreutils patch ready, restesting it once more before submiting it :)
01:59 < Mike1> retesting*
02:01 < rxr> esden: /me too
02:01 * rxr really needs a quad Athlon64 box with arround 8GB RAM
02:01 < rxr> that would match my needs ...
02:04 < esden> rxr: not only yours
02:04 < esden> ask amd ...
02:04 < esden> when 2.0 is out ...
02:06 < rxr> esden: not before ?
02:07 < rxr> with the iBook I carry around I should ask if I get an better one for free - I do so much pro Apple advertisement ...
02:07 < esden> after the 1.6 desaster?
02:07 < rxr> esden: they don't now
02:07 < esden> hmm ... yes ... ok
02:07 < esden> so we should ask
02:07 < esden> if they will borrow at least such boxes
02:08 < Mike1> rxr, esden don't forget about /me when begging for hardware..
02:08 < Mike1> please :)
02:08 < esden> Mike1: you get my box if I get such a monster ;-)
02:08 < Mike1> esden: arrgg!! i want a monster too
02:08 < Mike1> :)
02:08 < esden> hehe ... 
02:09 < Mike1> esden: but natalie will be welcome as well..
02:09 < Mike1> *ggg*
02:09 < rxr> Mike1: why monster - I consider this small-scale
02:09 < rxr> entry level ...
02:09 < esden> rxr: yes ... you are right
02:09 < Mike1> rxr: it was just an expression after esden's monster expression..
02:10 < esden> rxr: in some months such a box is boring and too slow
02:10 < rxr> so I have this awstat running on my too servers
02:11 * -> esden working on getting new svn and alsa working on his box
02:12 < Mike1> rxr: patch for coreutils is ready, but i am for my build to get to the point where it fails so i can make sure it works perfect, this is on the smp box so won't take too long ok?
02:12 < esden> rxr: how can I use svn over a proxy?
02:13 < Mike1> +waiting...
02:13 < Mike1> esden: man svn :)
02:13 * Mike1 teasing esden :))
02:13 < esden> Mike1: I would not ask if it would be in there ...
02:14 < rxr> esden: yes - but never tried. Read the FAQ ...
02:19 < Mike1> esden:
02:19 < Mike1> Some proxies that filter port 80 nevertheless allow anything on port 81. For this reason, the svn.collab.net repository server listens on port 81 as well as on port 80. Try:
02:19 < Mike1>    svn checkout http://svn.collab.net:81/repos/svn/trunk subversion
02:20 < Mike1> esden: actually just: http://subversion.tigris.org/project_faq.html#proxy
02:20 < Mike1> read the whole thing
02:20 < esden> Mike1: I found it ...
02:20 < Mike1> esden: ah ok. good then.
02:20 * -> esden is configuring svn
02:20 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux 1.5/1.6 is depricated please use 1.7/2.0 instead : ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now ( clifford 1.7 tree: cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@clifford.homedns.org:/home/cvs co -P rock-src-1.7; rxr 2.0 tree: svn co http://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk/ )
02:20 -!- Topic set by esden [Fri May  9 01:09:26 2003]
02:21 < rxr> esden: adding a proxy shouldn't be that hard ...
02:21 < rxr> is it ?
02:21 * Mike1 away throwing up..brb..
02:30 < Mike1> re... :((
02:31 < esden> bllll ...
02:31 < esden> it is not working ... somehow
02:31 < esden> I set up everything correctly but it still does not work ...
02:31 < esden> I fight with it tomorrow
02:31 < esden> good night everyone
02:32 < Mike1> n8 esdy
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03:36 < rxr> n8
03:36 < rxr> Marcelo Tosatti <m Linux 2.4.21-rc2
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03:40 < Mike1> 1530 builds total, 302 completed fine, 0 with errors.
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05:27 < Mike1> hi netrunner
05:31 < Mike1> anyone awake?
05:31 * Mike1 bored as hell..
05:34 < n00kie> hola Mike1 :)
05:35 < n00kie> Comó usted allí? :)
05:35 < Mike1> estoy muy bien!
05:35 < Mike1> y tu?
05:35 < n00kie> mui bien, gracias :)
05:35 < n00kie> muy
05:35 < Mike1> (tu = unpersonal way to say you)
05:35 < Mike1> n00kie: tu = dir
05:35 < n00kie> yep :)
05:35 < Mike1> n00kie: usted = Ihnen
05:35 < n00kie> ah
05:36 < n00kie> and what should I write?
05:36 < Mike1> :)
05:36 < Mike1> to me? tu :)
05:36 < Mike1> n00kie: do bist mein freund.
05:36 < Mike1> du*
05:36 < n00kie> Mike1 mi amigo. :)
05:37 < Mike1> ack
05:37 < n00kie> Mike1 gusto de café
05:37 < Mike1> english please
05:37 < n00kie> Mike1 likes coffee
05:37 < n00kie> wasn't this correct? :(
05:38 < Mike1> n00kie: more or less
05:38 < n00kie> uhm
05:38 < Mike1> n00kie: the right way wopuld be:
05:38 < n00kie> and what is correct? :)
05:38 < Mike1> a Mike1 le gusta el cafe :)
05:39 < n00kie> alright :)
05:39 < Mike1> n00kie: also want to say: "Do you want some coffee Mike?" you say "Quieres un poco de cafe Mike?"
05:39 < n00kie> ah
05:39 < n00kie> ok :)
05:40 < n00kie> I put this in my dictionary
05:40 < Mike1> so what are you doing up this early my friend?
05:41 < n00kie> I'm making homework
05:42 < Mike1> hehehe
05:42 < n00kie> :)
05:42 < Mike1> lazy boy
05:42 < Mike1> is that homework for today?
05:42 < n00kie> yes
05:43 < n00kie> in 2 hours school
05:43 < Mike1> LOL
05:43 < n00kie> but nobody is lazier than esden
05:43 < n00kie> you said ;)
05:43 < Mike1> n00kie: well i think _NULL_ can be lazier sometimes
05:43 < Mike1> but keep the secret
05:43 < Mike1> :)
05:43 < n00kie> ehehe, right :)
05:44 < Mike1> hehe gee is really early for you
05:44 < n00kie> hehe
05:44 < n00kie> uhuh
05:44 < n00kie> :)
05:45 < n00kie> 9:43
05:45 < Mike1> hehe
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05:45 < Mike1> yup i still have to go to bed sometime later
05:45 < n00kie> not now :)
05:46 < Mike1> nah, not yet
05:46 < Mike1> i am talking to my friend n00kie
05:48 < n00kie> yes, thats importender than sleeping
05:48 < Mike1> lol
05:48 < Mike1> also i am debuggin rock generic :)
05:49 < Mike1> n00kie: you see:
05:49 < Mike1> == 15:46:36 =[3]=> Building base/dietlibc [0.22 1.7-snapshot].
05:49 < Mike1> == 21:32:14 =[5]=> Building x11/imagemagick [5.5.6 1.7-snapshot].
05:49 < Mike1> == 17:01:16 =[5]=> Building base/at [3.1.7 1.7-snapshot].
05:50 < Mike1> *g
05:50 < Mike1> Finishing build.
05:50 < Mike1> -> Creating package database ...
05:50 < Mike1> -> Creating isofs.txt file ..
05:50 < Mike1> root@mike:/build/miguel/rock-src-1.7#
05:50 < Mike1> :)
05:53 < n00kie> ehehe :)
05:53 < n00kie> I#d build my own Rock 2days before you :)
05:53 < n00kie> and it works :)
05:53 < Mike1> thats good
05:54 < Mike1> n00kie: my builds are for debugging and testing only :)
05:54 < n00kie> ah :)
05:54 < n00kie> alright, I'll be back in a few minutes :)
05:54 < n00kie> taking a shower
05:54 < n00kie> brb
05:54 < Mike1> root@mike:/build/miguel/rock-src-1.7# ./scripts/Create-ErrList
05:54 < Mike1> Error logs from system-1.7-snapshot-x86-k6-3-minimal-expert:
05:54 < Mike1> 245 builds total, 245 completed fine, 0 with errors.
05:54 < Mike1> enjoy :)
06:01 < n00kie> re :)
06:01 < Mike1> what kind of a shower was that?
06:01 < Mike1> did the water actually touched something more than ur hands and face?
06:01 < Mike1> *g
06:01 < n00kie> [06:01:10][root@n0nsense][/usr/src/rock-src]> ./scripts/Create-ErrList
06:01 < n00kie> Error logs from default-1.7-snapshot-x86-athlon-xp-bootdisk:
06:01 < n00kie> 151 builds total, 151 completed fine, 0 with errors.
06:01 < n00kie> [06:01:19][root@n0nsense][/usr/src/rock-src]>
06:01 < n00kie> a god :)
06:01 < n00kie> good
06:02 < Mike1> mm..
06:02 < Mike1> what target is it? installdisks?
06:02 < n00kie> yep
06:02 < Mike1> i got it perfect too
06:02 < n00kie> i know :)
06:02 < Mike1> the target i pasted was 'minimal' target
06:03 < n00kie> aem
06:03 < n00kie> wait
06:03 < n00kie> If I don't have this traffic flat
06:03 < n00kie> I would build more :)
06:03 < n00kie> Did you created generic -required?
06:04 < Mike1> huh?
06:05 < n00kie> what is minimal target?
06:06 < Mike1> is a new target i am working on
06:06 < n00kie> Ah :)
06:06 < Mike1> its a minimalistic target
06:06 < n00kie> I must try
06:06 < n00kie> is it with X ?
06:06 < Mike1> without X
06:07 < n00kie> okay
06:07 < Mike1> it onlyt has a very minimun system that you can use to build
06:07 < n00kie> ah
06:07 < n00kie> cool :)
06:07 < Mike1> in case ur hd is too small
06:07 < Mike1> :)
06:07 < n00kie> i have 120Gigs :)
06:07 < Mike1> will share an iso with you tomorrow
06:07 < n00kie> okay, thank you ! :-))
06:07 < Mike1> so hd space is not a problem for ya :)
06:07 < n00kie> yeah, but I could try :)
06:08 < n00kie> And I use 9.5gn
06:08 < n00kie> gb
06:08 < n00kie> lol
06:08 < Mike1> :)
06:08 < Mike1> ok n00kie, i am really not feeling good
06:09 < n00kie> why?
06:09 < Mike1> i just stayed awake till now cause i wanted to give that iso to a friend (rolla)
06:09 < Mike1> i have been throwing up all night
06:09 < Mike1> and feel very weak
06:09 < Mike1> so i am going home now
06:09 < Mike1> n00kie: Buenas noches mi amigo.
06:10 < n00kie> alright
06:10 < Mike1> in case you didn't understand: Gute nacht mein freund.
06:10 < n00kie> ah
06:10 < n00kie> el adios Mike1 :)
06:10 < n00kie> Have a nice day and, "goo
06:10 < n00kie> good night
06:10 < Mike1> :)
06:10 < Mike1> n8 all.
06:10 * Mike1 gone to bed.
06:11 < Mike1> yeah! coreutils patch worked :)
06:11 < Mike1> byw
06:11 < Mike1> bye*
06:11 < lowks> who writes packages for rocklinux ?
06:12 < lowks> do users submit them or what ?
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07:20 < blindcoder> moin
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09:07 < ringo78> moin
09:18 < blindcoder> moin moin
09:25 < _NULL_> moin
09:38 < esden> morgen
09:39 < blindcoder> moin esdi
09:40 < _NULL_> hi esden
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09:44 * blindcoder now getting the Megatokyo OST
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10:07 < JTBurn> good morning :)
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10:09 < esden> cu everyone -> uni
10:10 < netrunner> esden: you're to late!
10:13 < blindcoder> netrunner: aren't you used to that behaviour from him? :D
10:15 < _NULL_> blindcoder: eh, you're evil :p
10:16 < blindcoder> _NULL_: no, just honest :D
10:16 < _NULL_> hehe ;) ok...
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12:21 < netrunner> *g* glibc takes 9h to compile, while dietibc is done in 3 mins
12:23 < _NULL_> netrunner: on which machine?
12:24 < netrunner> null: p3-500, 256MB ram. maybe the nfs mountet rock-src is the bottleneck?
12:25 < _NULL_> dunno... sorry.
12:25 < netrunner> might be, the nic-led is flashing like hell ;)
12:26 < _NULL_> but in LFS there is the SBU: 14.71... --> takes loooong
12:28 < blindcoder> SBU? did they change that?
12:28 < blindcoder> I remember it being BSU
12:29 < _NULL_> blindcoder: SBUs are Static Bash Units << "copy and paste of lfs-book"
12:30 < blindcoder> okay, then they changed it
12:30 < blindcoder> last time I read it it was called "Bash Standard Units"
12:30 < _NULL_> ok ;)
12:31 < _NULL_> when did you have a look last time, into the lfs-book?
12:32 < blindcoder> erm... okay, I rest my case
12:33 < _NULL_> :p
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12:35 < rxr> re
12:36 < _NULL_> wb rxr
12:37 * blindcoder slurping some Jolt to wake up
12:53 * rxr enjoys the new awstat web statistic ;)
13:01 < daja77> moin
13:01 < rxr> moin daja77
13:01 < daja77> hi rxr
13:03 < daja77> hmm clug meeting at 19.00, that means 5.5h to work on realtime rock release
13:04 < daja77> damn my box at home hung up :(
13:06 < rxr> daja77: that is bad
13:06 < rxr> I now have an preemtive 2.5.69 runnin
13:06 < daja77> ACK
13:06 < blindcoder> daja77: no reconnect script?
13:06 < daja77> blindcoder: not yet
13:06 < rxr> the 2.5.68 did  not crash and showed no other odd behaviour ...
13:06 < daja77> only a keep alive ping ;)
13:06 < blindcoder> daja77: what do you use? ISDN? DSL?
13:06 < daja77> isdn
13:06 < blindcoder> okay... otherwise I could have given you mine...
13:07 < daja77> hmm I thought about writing script whic establishes connection when I call via mobile
13:09 < daja77> subversion site not responding >_<
13:10 < daja77> rene could you send me the release tarball for subversion?
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13:16 < _NULL_> hi dichter
13:16 < daja77> lol
13:16 < dichter> hi null
13:16 < daja77> hi dichter
13:16 < daja77> ah subversion responding again
13:17 < dichter> hi daja
13:17 < dichter> hi everyone
13:18 < dichter> wich languege is apropriate here?
13:18 < dichter> language
13:18 < daja77> EN
13:18 < dichter> thx
13:19 < dichter> i have a queation regarding installing rocklinux 1.6.0-pre4.i686
13:19 < daja77> ahme dichter please read the topic
13:19 < daja77> ahem I mean
13:19 < dichter> i have an CD made from ISO, but it does not boot
13:20 < dichter> ok, where can i get the 2.0 image ?
13:20 < dichter> i have no system where i can compile
13:25 < daja77> http://nexus.tfh-berlin.de/~drock/latest/2.0.0-beta/
13:27 < rxr> we should point people to download page - the nexus server already transfered > 120 GB in the last week - then poeple chose a mirror from the list it might do some traffic balancing ... ;-)
13:27 < daja77> ok sorry
13:28 < dichter> :-)
13:28 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux.org/projects/drock/binary.html
13:28 < rxr> daja77: no problem ;-) I just wonder why nexus has most of the traffic - when my master server has nearly none ... ;-)
13:28 < daja77> rxr: the subversion site is still fscked up somehow, could you send me the subversion tarball, that I can checkout your tree here?
13:29 < rxr> daja77: which page is broken ?
13:29 < daja77> download
13:29 < rxr> daja77: url ?
13:29 < daja77> http://subversion.tigris.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList?folderID=260
13:30 < rxr> http://subversion.tigris.org/files/documents/15/4
13:30 < rxr> 016/
13:31 < rxr> of course without the \n ...
13:32 < daja77> Error!
13:32 < daja77> No matches to your request were found.
13:33 < daja77> this is annoying
13:34 < rxr> http://schillernet.dyndns.org/subversion-0.22.0.tar.bz2
13:34 < daja77> thx very much
13:35 < dichter> thanks, i will check back if i have the same error aocuring again...
13:35 < dichter> cu
13:35 < rxr> dichter: you try the -beta ?
13:35 < dichter> i will...
13:35 < rxr> nice
13:35 < rxr> have fun
13:35 < dichter> i had no luck with 1.6.0.pre3 and pre4
13:36 < rxr> dichter: yes - 1.6.x got out of scope
13:36 < rxr> and even destablized :-(
13:36 < dichter> :-(
13:36 < rxr> 2.0 is far more stable and advanced ...
13:36 < rxr> this is why 1.6 is obsolete now.
13:36 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux.org/projects/drock/getting.html
13:37 < dichter> i hope it will boot :-)
13:37 < rxr> ^- new menu entries ho do you like those ?
13:37 < rxr> dichter: it should ;-)
13:37 < dichter> cu guys/gals
13:37 < rxr> cu dichter
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13:37 < daja77> cu dichter have fun
13:37 < daja77> damn
13:38 < daja77> btw my home isn't hung up, I just ran into a routing trap at work
13:39 < daja77> rxr: what about disabling the 1.6 download links?
13:41 < rxr> daja77: the main problem is that there are no 1.7 / 2.0 tarballs on the rocklinux page
13:41 < rxr> I sent them to cliff - but he seems ot be in vacation these days ...
13:42 < daja77> *hmpf*
13:47 < daja77> rxr: maybe he enjoys austria's linux weeks *g*
13:58 < rxr> yeah ,)
14:00 < daja77> O_o why is the svn client lib not build
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14:10 < _NULL_> hi n00kie
14:11 < daja77> hehe
14:11 < daja77> hi n00kie
14:12 < daja77> anyone knows a long double datatype (C under linux) ??
14:15 < _NULL_> or a not so nice error:
14:15 < _NULL_> checking size of long double... configure: error: cannot compute sizeof (long double), 77
14:15 < _NULL_> with glibc-2.3.2
14:15 < _NULL_> (and gcc-3.2.3)
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14:46 < daja77> huhu Lorini_
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15:13 < rxr> next cleanup iteration of the homepage finished:#
15:13 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux.org/projects/drock/
15:14 < daja77> rxr: subversion 0.22 doesn't compile completely now trying 0.21 again
15:14 < rxr> daja77: hm - compiles fine here :-(
15:14 < rolla> re
15:15 < rolla> == 07:13:06 =[5]=> Building rene/kopete [0.6.1s 1.7-snapshot].
15:15 < daja77> rxr: it forgot to compile svn client lib
15:28 < rolla> where do these random comments come from ?
15:28 < daja77> huh?
15:29 < rolla> on the stats page
15:29 < daja77> ahem from the logs
15:30 < daja77> and have yu got a higher rank now? *gg*
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15:30 < martin> hi all
15:30 < daja77> hi martin
15:31 < rolla> you allways did
15:31 < martin> hi daja77
15:31 < daja77> hehe no
15:31 < rolla> == 08:21:54 =[5]=> Building rene/kdevelop [3.0a4a 1.7-snapshot].
15:32 < rolla> ever since I knew of the stats you have been in the top 10
15:32 < rolla> I have allways been 20
15:32 < rolla> :P
15:32 < daja77> rolla: I am at rank 10 since 3 days or so
15:32 < rolla> plus some of us work and have families
15:33 < daja77> hehe I work too
15:33 < rolla> yeah at a uni not same
15:34 < daja77> ;)
15:34 < _NULL_> http://the-null.de.vu/misc/sick-stuff/fachinformatiker/bestofZP.txt << something to laugh at
15:35 < rolla> yeah if I read german ;)
15:35 < _NULL_> rolla: sorry...
15:35 < blindcoder> 9b
15:36 < blindcoder> 33d
15:36 < daja77> *loool*
15:36 < blindcoder> 34b
15:36 < blindcoder> 34 was also in my final test :)
15:36 < blindcoder> copy'n'pasted :)
15:36 < _NULL_> blindcoder: ???
15:37 < blindcoder> _NULL_: the answers
15:37 < blindcoder> 9 - b
15:37 < blindcoder> 33 - d
15:37 < blindcoder> 34 - b
15:37 < blindcoder> and I had question 34 in my Finals :)
15:37 < _NULL_> omg
15:37 < blindcoder> with the exact same phrasing of question AND answers
15:38 < blindcoder> but I must say that 9 _is_ a bit hard
15:38 < blindcoder> because if someone only knows x86 then everything doesn't make sense :)
15:38 < daja77> and 34 is wrong
15:38 < blindcoder> ?
15:38 < blindcoder> 34 b
15:39 < daja77> a trojan doesn't necessarily hides in src could be in binary as well
15:39 < blindcoder> okay, a trojan horse is not necessarily a virus
15:39 < rolla> :)
15:39 < blindcoder> daja77: you're reading a test domnated by Windows-Users
15:40 < rolla> that is allways painful
15:40 < blindcoder> so you have to switch down your IQ to slightly above room temperature
15:40 < blindcoder> and btw: ASM is also a kind of source
15:40 < rolla> :)
15:40 < daja77> hehe I don't wanna
15:41 < _NULL_> 33 - d, and 34 - b
15:41 < _NULL_> (ihk says)
15:41 < blindcoder> _NULL_: yes
15:41 < daja77> rxr: is it possible to use svn with a proxy
15:41 < blindcoder> and 9b
15:41 < martin> cul
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15:42 < _NULL_> it's ill, isn't it?
15:42 < blindcoder> sick
15:42 < daja77> huh, what have we done to him
15:42 < blindcoder> not ill, you say sick in these cases
15:42 < daja77> it is sick, ack
15:42 < blindcoder> _NULL_: but still
15:43 < blindcoder> _NULL_: some answers make about as much sense as the test for a driver's license
15:43 < _NULL_> blindcoder: i have no driver's license... (and not did a test or stuff)
15:43 < blindcoder> while #33 has about 2 possible answers
15:44 < blindcoder> _NULL_: from a DL-Test: Q: How do you minimize gas-usage?
15:44 < blindcoder> a) Opening the window
15:44 < blindcoder> b) driving with >4000 RPMs
15:44 < blindcoder> c) switching gears early
15:45 < _NULL_> *cough* *cough*
15:45 < daja77> a) I guess *gg*
15:45 < _NULL_> i guess e) "zerreiss den test"
15:46 < blindcoder> _NULL_: hehe... that's what I almost did at "Bundeswehr"
15:46 < blindcoder> the stupid computer showed me the same questions three times in a row
15:46 < blindcoder> so I thought about punching it :P
15:46 < daja77> what a luck that I never had to go to the army
15:47 < _NULL_> blindcoder: *lol*
15:48 < blindcoder> daja77: me neither :D
15:49 < blindcoder> just took the test... and got dismissed
15:49 < daja77> hehe
15:50 < rolla> you guys/gal and your tests :)
15:50 * daja77 never had these tests
15:51 < blindcoder> daja77: why not?
15:52 < daja77> I did not qualify for bundeswehr test *g*
15:52 < daja77> + I am studying
15:55 < blindcoder> i see
15:56 < blindcoder> I was dismissed for "Akne" (thouh it's hardly there :P)
15:56 < daja77> lol
15:57 * daja77 was dismissed cos the army has no armored wheelchairs *gg*
15:59 * daja77 screams a bit
16:01 < rolla> ????
16:01 < daja77> I can't do svn checkout here *damn it*
16:02 < rolla> warum?
16:02 < daja77> cos svn can't use proxy and doesn't compile on the box which doesn't need proxy
16:04 < _NULL_> <-- going home
16:04 < _NULL_> bye
16:05 < blindcoder> what about transconnect?L
16:05 < rolla> daja77: that sucks
16:05 < daja77> blindcoder: ??
16:05 < daja77> rolla: ACK
16:09 < daja77> btw autoconf sucks like hell
16:11 < blindcoder> daja77: transconnects uses the HTTP CONNECT to make direct connections through proxies
16:11 < blindcoder> transconnect
16:11 < blindcoder> it's a .so to be used with LD_PRELOAD
16:16 < daja77> thx
16:17 < daja77> hmm sf is so lame...
16:18 < daja77> 8kb of 18 kb at 0.2kb/s wtf
16:20 < rxr> Committed revision 164.
16:21 < daja77> d'oh
16:22 < daja77> rxr: is there proxy support in svn?
16:28 < daja77> blindcoder: ? this doesn't work
16:29 < blindcoder> daja77: well... if your proxy-admin is paranoid, then maybe it won't
16:32 < daja77> Connection Refused: Forbidden
16:32 < daja77> o
16:33 < rxr> daja77: it should work with proxies - read the FAQ of svn
16:34 < rxr> cu later
16:34 < daja77> *hmpf+ why can't they write it into the man page
16:34 < daja77> cu rxr
16:34 < daja77> *gna* tigris.org down again
16:35 * daja77 thinks of commiting suicide today
16:35 < blindcoder> daja77: suicide without me? :P
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16:36 < fronti> hellp
16:36 < daja77> blindcoder: you are invited to join, this friday sucks
16:36 * daja77 helps fronti to stand up
16:37 < fronti> s/p/o/
16:37 < fronti> ;)
16:38 < daja77> hi fronti ;)
16:38 < blindcoder> daja77: maybe because it's a friday
16:38 < blindcoder> fridays seem to have this tendency for suckage
16:39 < daja77> yeah maybe, hey I managed to get things right yesterday but not today :(
16:39 < fronti> but help is needet too.. i'n trying to compile the latest rock snapshot on an gentoo rc4 system.. in stage 0 the build of glibc sems to hang.. is this a known problem?
16:40 < daja77> latest rock snapshot, which one?
16:40 < fronti>   rock-src-1.7-200305071030
16:40 < daja77> O_o new to me
16:41 < daja77> well the best thing will be to install subversion and check out 2.0.0-beta2 tree as described in topic
16:43 < blindcoder> daja77: when home I'll hide in my room watching Anime the rest of the day
16:44 < blindcoder> daja77: that's the best way of beating a Friday IMO :P
16:44 * daja77 doesn't watch anime
16:45 < fronti> daja77: i can try this, but i don't belive on this.. the error looks like an error in the combination rocklinux build / gentoo base system.. (building new rock versions on my rock servers works fine )
16:45 < daja77> sure but what's the problem with gentoo?
16:46 < daja77> *hmpf* /me biting the carpet *aaaargh*
16:47 < blindcoder> daja77: ?
16:47 < daja77> whatever I try nothing works
16:48 < blindcoder> well, it's a friday after all :)
16:48 < blindcoder> ah
16:48 < blindcoder> 10 mins until go-home-time :)
16:49 < daja77> you lucky bastard >_<
16:50 < blindcoder> MWAHAHAHA
16:52 < fronti> hmm, it seems that the build of glibc goes into an endless loop.. very strange
16:54 * blindcoder going home
16:54 < blindcoder> baba
16:56 < daja77> bye blindcoder
16:58 < rolla> crazy
16:58 < daja77> rolla: ??
16:58 < rolla> damn MSSQL crap
16:59 < daja77> rolla: crappy friday too?
17:02 < rolla> yeah
17:03 < daja77> rolla: I'd need a weapon to shoot the network admins down
17:03 < rolla> why?
17:03 < daja77> because their net config prevents me from doin my work
17:04 < rolla> :)
17:04 < rolla> got to love it
17:05 < fronti> so, feierabend..
17:05 < daja77> hahaha the stupid nt proxy doesn't support the svn commands...
17:05 < daja77> fronti: bye and have fun
17:06 < rolla> there is yor problem NT proxy bad
17:06 < daja77> no no no, this is _not_ my NT proxy
17:22 < daja77> rolla: have seen "Goodbye Lenin" already?
17:24 < rolla> nein
17:24 < daja77> do they show it in the usa?
17:26 < rolla> yeah right
17:27 < daja77> good ;)
17:28 < rolla> ?
17:28 < rolla> daja77: that is sarcasm
17:28 < daja77> why
17:28 < rolla> I would have to work very hard to find it
17:28 < rolla> I have to use edonkey to download german bootleg
17:29 < daja77> sorry then I got you wrong, I thought you said that they show it
17:29 < rolla> "yeah right" is a phrase of sarcasm here sorry
17:29 * rolla switchs on his american pharses
17:30 < rolla> yeah right == as if
17:30 < daja77> *g* ;)
17:32 < daja77> rolla: hmm it will be even harder to find one with subtitles
17:32 < rolla> yup
17:32 < rolla> that is why I just need to find english transcripts and watch and read at the same time
17:32 < rolla> like reading manga
17:32 < daja77> hmm
17:33 < rolla> ?
17:34 < daja77> it was another form of ack
17:38 < rolla> oh
17:38 < daja77> ;)
17:39 < rolla> == 10:38:48 =[5]=> Building rene/tetex [2.0.2 1.7-snapshot].
17:39 < daja77> lol
17:39 < rolla> was?
17:40 < daja77> it is the package which rene claims to have fixed finally, had no time to test it right now
17:40 < rolla> oh
17:42 < daja77> it might be still broken in your checkout
17:42 < rolla> I
17:42 < rolla>  am surew
17:42 < daja77> ;)
17:43 < daja77> I can't believe it, I am alone with you, here
17:45 < daja77> O_o heavy rain started...
17:59 < n00kie> Howdy daja77 :)
18:00 < daja77> hi n00kie
18:00 < daja77> how was your friday?
18:01 < n00kie> bda
18:01 < n00kie> bad
18:01 < n00kie> I had headache
18:01 < n00kie> but no it ends :)
18:03 < daja77> hehe join our club
18:05 < rolla> what club is that?
18:06 < rolla> == 11:09:19 =[5]=> Building praenti/libmikmod [3.1.10 1.7-snapshot].
18:06 < rolla> cool all my packages are failing :)
18:06 < rolla> this is going to be one great ISO
18:07 < daja77> rolla: the club of friday haters
18:07 < daja77> rolla: your packages?
18:07 < rolla> yeah stage 5 bunch of them are dieing
18:08 < rolla> you want to see?
18:08 < rxr> re
18:08 < rolla> -> Preparing build in src.tdb.1052496590.10717.158643777
18:08 < rolla> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/5-tdb.out
18:08 < rolla> !> Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
18:08 < rolla> !> This is free software; see the source for copying condit ..
18:08 < rolla> !> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A  ..
18:08 < rolla> !> [ writing debug log to /R.work/src.tdb.1052496590.10717. ..
18:08 < rolla> !> File not found: download/clifford/tdb/tdb-1.0.6.tar.bz2
18:08 < rolla> !> Did you run ./scripts/Download for this package?
18:08 < rolla> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-tdb.out -> 5-tdb.err
18:08 < rolla> == 05/09/03 11:10:06 =[5]=> Aborted building package tdb.
18:08 < rolla> Creating binary package file for tdb.
18:08 < rolla> -> Building build/.../pkgs/tdb.tar.bz2
18:08 < rolla> -> Building build/.../pkgs/tdb.gem
18:08 < rxr> rolla: did you downloaded the files required for the build ?
18:08 < rolla> -> Removing temporary tar.bz2.
18:08 < rolla> == 11:10:09 =[5]=> Building clifford/ddclient [3.6.2 1.7-snapshot].
18:08 < rolla> -> Reading package configuration from package directory.
18:08 < rolla> -> Preparing build in src.ddclient.1052496607.13567.1848762819
18:08 < rolla> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/5-ddclient.out
18:09 < rolla> !> Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
18:09 < rolla> !> This is free software; see the source for copying condit ..
18:09 < rolla> !> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A  ..
18:09 < rolla> !> [ writing debug log to /R.work/src.ddclient.1052496607.1 ..
18:09 < rolla> !> File not found: download/clifford/ddclient/ddclient-3.6. ..
18:09 < rolla> !> Did you run ./scripts/Download for this package?
18:09 < rolla> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-ddclient.out -> 5-ddclient.err
18:09 < rolla> == 05/09/03 11:10:23 =[5]=> Aborted building package ddclient.
18:09 < rxr> rolla: did you downloaded the files required for the build ?
18:09 < rxr> rolla: did you downloaded the files required for the build ?
18:09 < rxr> rolla: did you downloaded the files required for the build ?
18:09 < rxr> rolla: did you downloaded the files required for the build ?
18:09 < rxr> rolla: did you downloaded the files required for the build ?
18:09 < rolla> Creating binary package file for ddclient.
18:09 < rxr> rolla: did you downloaded the files required for the build ?
18:09 < rolla> -> Building build/.../pkgs/ddclient.tar.bz2
18:09 < rxr> rolla: did you downloaded the files required for the build ?
18:09 < rxr> rolla: did you downloaded the files required for the build ?
18:09 < rolla> -> Building build/.../pkgs/ddclient.gem
18:09 < rxr> rolla: did you downloaded the files required for the build ?
18:09 < rolla> -> Removing temporary tar.bz2.
18:09 < rxr> rolla: hello !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
18:09 < rolla> == 11:10:25 =[5]=> Building clifford/sweep [0.5.13 1.7-snapshot].
18:09 < rolla> -> Preparing build in src.sweep.1052496623.16415.458502387
18:09 < rolla> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/5-sweep.out
18:09 < rolla> !> ******************************************************** ..
18:09 < rolla> !> configure: error:
18:09 < rolla> !> ***
18:09 < rolla> !> *** After fixing the above problems, you must run ./conf ..
18:09 < rolla> !> ***
18:09 < rolla> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-sweep.out -> 5-sweep.err
18:09 < rolla> == 05/09/03 11:11:03 =[5]=> Aborted building package sweep.
18:10 < rolla> -> Preparing build in src.tdb.1052496590.10717.158643777
18:10 < rolla> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/5-tdb.out
18:10 < daja77> rolla: PLEASE STOP THAT
18:10 < rolla> !> Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
18:10 < rolla> !> This is free software; see the source for copying condit ..
18:10 < rolla> !> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A  ..
18:10 < rolla> !> [ writing debug log to /R.work/src.tdb.1052496590.10717. ..
18:10 < rolla> !> File not found: download/clifford/tdb/tdb-1.0.6.tar.bz2
18:10 < rolla> !> Did you run ./scripts/Download for this package?
18:10 < rolla> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-tdb.out -> 5-tdb.err
18:10 < rolla> == 05/09/03 11:10:06 =[5]=> Aborted building package tdb.
18:10 < rxr> YES PLEASE !!!
18:10 < rolla> Creating binary package file for tdb.
18:10 < rolla> -> Building build/.../pkgs/tdb.tar.bz2
18:10 < rolla> -> Building build/.../pkgs/tdb.gem
18:10 < rolla> -> Removing temporary tar.bz2.
18:10 < rolla> == 11:10:09 =[5]=> Building clifford/ddclient [3.6.2 1.7-snapshot].
18:10 < rolla> -> Reading package configuration from package directory.
18:10 < rolla> -> Preparing build in src.ddclient.1052496607.13567.1848762819
18:10 < rolla> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/5-ddclient.out
18:10 < rolla> !> Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
18:10 < daja77> *AAAARGH*
18:10 < rolla> !> This is free software; see the source for copying condit ..
18:10 < rolla> !> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A  ..
18:11 < rolla> !> [ writing debug log to /R.work/src.ddclient.1052496607.1 ..
18:11 < rolla> !> File not found: download/clifford/ddclient/ddclient-3.6. ..
18:11 < rolla> !> Did you run ./scripts/Download for this package?
18:11 < rolla> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-ddclient.out -> 5-ddclient.err
18:11 < rolla> == 05/09/03 11:10:23 =[5]=> Aborted building package ddclient.
18:11 < rolla> Creating binary package file for ddclient.
18:11 < rolla> -> Building build/.../pkgs/ddclient.tar.bz2
18:11 < rolla> -> Building build/.../pkgs/ddclient.gem
18:11 < rolla> -> Removing temporary tar.bz2.
18:11 < rolla> == 11:10:25 =[5]=> Building clifford/sweep [0.5.13 1.7-snapshot].
18:11 < rolla> -> Preparing build in src.sweep.1052496623.16415.458502387
18:11 < rolla> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/5-sweep.out
18:11 < rxr> hehe rolla is /ignore'd now
18:11 < rolla> !> ******************************************************** ..
18:11 < rolla> !> configure: error:
18:11 < rolla> !> ***
18:11 < rxr> silence in the channel ;-)
18:11 < rolla> !> *** After fixing the above problems, you must run ./conf ..
18:11 < rolla> !> ***
18:11 < rolla> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-sweep.out -> 5-sweep.err
18:11 < rolla> == 05/09/03 11:11:03 =[5]=> Aborted building package sweep.
18:11 < rolla> :)
18:11 < rolla> :)
18:11 < rolla> yup
18:12 < rolla> but these are the packages that exist nowhere
18:12 < rolla> :)
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18:12 < daja77> wow they have kicked him
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18:12 < rolla> re
18:13 < daja77> btw I didn't say yes
18:13 < rolla> ?
18:13 < daja77> if I wanted to see all this crap
18:13 < daja77> wb rxr
18:13 < rolla> :)
18:14 < daja77> rxr: I had no chance to use a proxy (cos this is a stupid NT proxy which doesn't understand svn commands >_<)
18:14 < daja77> rolla: ok this were two packages right?
18:15 < rolla> 6
18:16 < rolla> daja77: I thought you would like to see it
18:16 < rolla> rxr you still here ?
18:16 < rolla> == 11:17:32 =[5]=> Building rene/apache [2.0.45 1.7-snapshot].
18:16 < rxr> daja77: AFAIK svn doesn't need special firewall funktionallity - any non-stupid one should work
18:16 < rxr> rolla: you _need_ to download the packages before the build !!!
18:17 < rxr> run ./scripts/Download -required
18:17 < rxr> and restart your everthing-fails build ...
18:19 < daja77> rolla: in query next time please
18:19 < daja77> rxr: this has nothing to do with firewall, but http commands svn is using
18:20 < rolla> rxr: I did those ones are not on the mirrors or the main server !!!!
18:22 < rxr> daja77: I meant s/firewall/proxy/ sorry (doing too much at the same time)
18:23 < rxr> ah - yes. Use none as mirror for svn builds
18:24 < rolla> == 11:17:32 =[5]=> Building rene/apache [2.0.45 1.7-snapshot].
18:24 < rolla> -> Reading package configuration from package directory.
18:24 < rolla> -> Preparing build in src.apache.1052497050.9901.226066165
18:24 < rolla> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/5-apache.out
18:24 < rolla> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-apache.out -> 5-apache.log
18:24 < rolla> == 05/09/03 11:26:52 =[5]=> Finished building package apache.
18:24 < rolla> yeah apache built :)
18:24 < n00kie> fast
18:25 < rolla> yup
18:25 < rolla> rxr is subversion broken still in the build?
18:25 < n00kie> mhm
18:26 < daja77> it was broken here
18:26 < rolla> okay
18:26 < rolla> then it is broken in mine
18:27 < n00kie> mhmm
18:27 < n00kie> but
18:27 < n00kie> why apache 2.x ?
18:27 < n00kie> and not 1.3.x ?
18:27 < rolla> cause apache2 rocks
18:27 < rolla> no pun intended
18:27 < n00kie> no pun?
18:27 < n00kie> what does this mean?
18:28 < rolla> not to make a word play on the name rock
18:29 < daja77> this is _sick_, I checked out via svn at home and fetching the tarball via ssh to have it here
18:29 < rolla> ugh
18:29 < daja77> the only chance, I am so lucky having setup this dyndns stuff, I can't tell you
18:31 < rolla> rxr I have restarted download
18:36 * daja77 will go to the clug meeting cu
18:37 < n00kie> wie ./scripts/Update-Src I'll download the latest snapshot?
18:38 < rxr> n00kie: 2.0 is current apache stable branch. aside from cleanups and the usual features you can read about in magazines it is required for subversion ..
18:38 < n00kie> alright
18:38 < rxr> rolla: subversion builds fine the recent svn
18:39 < n00kie> rxr: Thought about to put SIM into src tree?
18:39 < daja77> maybe the tarball is broken
18:39 < rolla> okay
18:41 < daja77> bye
18:41 < n00kie> have fun daja77!
18:41 < rolla> jbye daja77
18:41 < daja77> thank you
18:43 < rxr> n00kie: SIM what ?
18:43 < rolla> wow lots of missing packages
18:44 < n00kie> rxr: ICQ Client based on QT
18:44 < n00kie> http://sim-icq.sourceforge.net
18:45 < rxr> n00kie: I just added kopete ... - if you need s.th. other package it into your own repository ...
18:45 < rxr> Subject: GCC 3.3: 2nd prerelease
18:45 < n00kie> um
18:45 < n00kie> i will try kopete
18:46 < n00kie> Is kopete broken ?
18:46 < rxr> it builds here
18:46 < rxr> here on my box using a desktop build only 25 packages are broken ...
18:46 < rolla> what are they ?
18:47 < n00kie> rxr: I'm trying to compile it..
18:54 < rxr> n00kie: you need kde for it ...
18:55 < n00kie> yes
18:55 < n00kie> == 18:46:41 =[9]=> Building rene/kopete [0.6.1s 1.7-snapshot].
18:55 < n00kie> In general, I don't like the k desktop environment
18:55 < n00kie> but for some programs, it's not bad
19:01 < rxr> I tagged beta2 in subversion
19:01 < rxr> http://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-tags/
19:02 < n00kie> umhm
19:03 < n00kie> Kopete needs long to get compiled
19:04 < _NULL_> re
19:04 < rxr> hi _NULL_
19:04 < _NULL_> hi rxr. how are you?
19:11 < n00kie> wb _NULL_
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19:19 < rxr> _NULL_: great - and you ?
19:20 < _NULL_> rxr: alive. thx. why great?
19:26 < rxr> _NULL_: all is just comming along well ... ;-)
19:30 < _NULL_> hehe ;)
19:33 < rxr> -beta2 released
19:33 < rxr> freshmeat announcement, too
19:37 < rolla> == 12:32:41 =[5]=> Building clifford/hercules [2.17.1 1.7-snapshot].
19:39 < rolla> gnome14/rep-gtk01
19:39 < rolla> is that still broken or do I just have an old cvs ?
19:46 < rolla> anyone alive out there?
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19:48 < rolla> re Mike1-home
19:48 < Mike1-home> moin all
19:48 < Mike1-home> rolla did u get my mail?
19:48 < rolla> yup
19:48 < rolla> I am most happy about it
19:48 * Mike1-home is sick so he is at home today
19:48 < rolla> I will test it this weekend
19:49 < rolla> my build is moving along
19:49 < Mike1-home> rolla great to hear that
19:49 < rolla> yup
19:49 < rolla> I am now 19 on the stats list :)
19:49 < Mike1-home> rolla u can use that Joel edition iso to instal 1.7 on a box and use it to build a more complete system
19:49 < rolla> :)
19:49 < Mike1-home> rolla i am #3 :P
19:49 < rolla> sweet
19:49 < rolla> Mike1-home: I shall never pass you
19:49 < rolla> I don't have the time too
19:50 < rolla> I do not live and breath rock like you :)
19:50 < Mike1-home> rolla the cool thing is that the joel iso is optimized for specifically that box
19:50 < rolla> sweet
19:50 < rolla> Mike1-home: I am still having packages break :(
19:50 < Mike1-home> rolla well i have way many more stuff to do besides rock, and that includes normal work
19:51 < rolla> true
19:51 < Mike1-home> rolla maybe u wanna email me a list of those packages so i can try to fix them tomorrow when i am back to the office, well that is if i feel better
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19:51 < _NULL_> hi Mike1-home
19:51 < rolla> Mike1-home: I shall once it is done
19:51 < Mike1-home> rolla btw i sent a patch to fix coreutils to the mailing list a few minutes ago, feel free to apply it to your tree
19:53 < Mike1-home> rxr awake?
19:53 < rolla> I sweet
19:54 < Mike1-home> rolla :)
19:54 < Mike1-home> ping daja77
19:54 < rolla> Mike1-home: how does one take over a package in rock?
19:54 < rolla> Mike1-home: daja77 is off at a meeting
19:55 < Mike1-home> rolla ok u just put coreutils.diff in rock-src-1.7 and 'patch -Nfp1 < coreutils.diff'
19:55 < Mike1-home> rolla easy as that :)
19:55 < rolla> cool
20:00 < rxr> hi Mike1-home
20:00 < Mike1-home> rxr hi :)
20:00 < Mike1-home> rxr i sent the coreutils package as i promissed.
20:00 < rolla> == 13:01:34 =[5]=> Building gnome14/gdk-pixbuf10 [0.18.0 1.7-snapshot].
20:01 < rolla> :)
20:01 < rolla> a building I go
20:01 < Mike1-home> rolla nice
20:01 < rolla> yup
20:01 * Mike1-home is glad that his builds are running fine, but wishes to have srcs here to run a build on his home workstation
20:02 < rxr> Mike1-home: no the patch has not arrived here ...
20:02 < Mike1-home> rxr i sent it to the rlml///
20:02 < Mike1-home> s/// ...
20:03 < rxr> ah there it is
20:03 < Mike1-home> rxr :)
20:03 < Mike1-home> rxr will fix my gnuash and evolution packages as soon as i am better and can go back to the office.
20:04 < Mike1-home> rxr as i don't have any packages or rock srcs at here :(
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20:09 < Mike1-home> hola n00kie
20:10 < Mike1-home> _msg rolla i am not feeling very well so talk to u later, i am going to bed
20:10 < Mike1-home> arrg
20:10 < Mike1-home> cu all
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20:40 < JoJoMe> Hi ! Is rxr online ?
20:40 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E49F3B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
20:41 < JoJoMe> I'm looking for the ADM_Prv.o file for setting up a 802.11 card
20:41 < JoJoMe> it is required for the adm 8211
20:41 < JoJoMe> anyone here ?
20:41 < tcr> Ehm, does anyone have also problems with the mailinglist?
20:42 < tcr> I receive mails, but when sending one I get a Relay Access Denied
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20:43 < tcr> Ah, seems to be a local problem
20:43 < rolla> tcr:
20:44 < rxr> JoJoMe: yes
20:44 < rxr> JoJoMe:  what do you exactly try and need ?
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20:44 < JoJoMe> oops
20:44 < JoJoMe> still no rxr here ?
20:44 < rolla> rxr is here
20:44 < rxr> "no" rxr ? hm ?
20:44 < JoJoMe> Great !
20:45 < JoJoMe> I'm looking for the ADM_Prv file you mentioned in an IRC log
20:45 < JoJoMe> of 2003-04-01
20:45 < rxr> mom
20:45 < JoJoMe> I need that file to set an 802.11 card
20:45 < JoJoMe> (ADM chipset, found in D-link 650 card..)
20:46 < rxr> http://schillernet.dyndns.org/
20:47 < rxr> JoJoMe: the link at the buttom
20:47 < rxr> the tarball includes all the source and the binary only flie
20:47 < rxr> file even
20:47 < JoJoMe> thanx
20:47 < rxr> JoJoMe: errr! IIRC the dlink has an TI chip
20:47 < JoJoMe> did I get it well ? Is it for 802.11 ?
20:47 < rxr> JoJoMe: no an ADMtek ...
20:47 < JoJoMe> well, actually, it may have a TI or a ADM
20:47 < JoJoMe> depends on which version
20:48 < JoJoMe> from what I understand..
20:48 < JoJoMe> if it is A1 or L1 version
20:48 < JoJoMe> is it ?
20:48 < rxr> hm - if you are sure. I only saw TI based up to now ...
20:48 < rxr> but a simple look onto the chip will possibly help
20:48 < rolla> crap
20:48 < rxr> rolla: crap? where?
20:49 < JoJoMe> Well, the link you gave me redirects me to the guy at HP. From there, I'm lost ;-<
20:49 < rxr> JoJoMe: nope
20:49 < JoJoMe> sorry
20:49 < JoJoMe> I found it
20:49 < rxr> the link at the buttom  of the page
20:49 < rxr> ah ok
20:54 < JoJoMe> I guess you're right : 8211.o: init_module: No such device
20:54 < JoJoMe> too bad !
21:01 < JoJoMe> thanx for everything.
21:01 < JoJoMe> bye
21:01 < rxr> bye
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21:03 < tcr> Hmm, dunno what the problem is... seems to be somewhat with the uni.de smtp server...
21:06 < tcr> eh, s/somewhat/something/
21:19 < chaosmaster> anybody out there?
21:19 < tcr> Partly
21:20 < chaosmaster> is someony involved in the new page design?
21:22 < tcr> Well, initially rxr, but he gave it out of his hand, i think
21:23 < chaosmaster> he made the initial design, which was accepted by clifford for his cms, but nobody cares anymore :(
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21:24 < tcr> Well.. I'd split the design completely off from the content
21:24 < chaosmaster> i think, this is, what was done by this cms
21:24 < tcr> And create an own preprocessing macro-like language for the content that's procedded by some sed script
21:25 < chaosmaster> oh, no! not more sed scripts and macros and this shit - i'm not a friend of this
21:26 < chaosmaster> I really hate^H^H^H^Hlike the m4 init macros :)
21:26 < tcr> Why? Nobody should ever care because it's an internal format
21:26 < tcr> Texts are added via the CMS
21:26 < tcr> but to enable different templates, it must save the content in some format that's preprocessable
21:26 < chaosmaster> yes, but at least the m4 macros are not that flexible like a real shell script as init file
21:27 < tcr> No i don't really thought of macros
21:27 < tcr> erm of m4
21:27 < chaosmaster> for the webpage we even shouldn't need any macros
21:27 < tcr> rather of some things like: ##TITLE## blah
21:27 < tcr> etc
21:28 < chaosmaster> AFAISee the "design" is just put around the edited texts
21:28 < tcr> Well, then it's fine
21:29 < tcr> I just anticipate the next dicussion about design/layout yadda, and then we can just say: Create a new template, the rest will be done automatically
21:29 < chaosmaster> it's just that, everyone was happy about the cms, but no one seems to really care how to migrate our curent page
21:29 < tcr> There'd be even the possibility to offer more than one design -- that all share the same content fiels
21:30 < chaosmaster> and as Joecelyn announced on fm, there may be some confusion about consistency
21:30 < chaosmaster> see drock und the root presence ....
21:31 < tcr> I personally find the current design of the cms page really abhorrent
21:31 < chaosmaster> explain
21:31 < tcr> Well, I just me how one can find that aesthetically and structurally attractive without having a "Knick in der Optik" ;)
21:31 < chaosmaster> :)
21:31 < tcr> +ask
21:32 < chaosmaster> whats your problem?
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21:32 < tcr> Everything (except the main table with the shadow effect)
21:33 < chaosmaster> would you like it more "coool", more 3l1t3? more clean, more structured ....?
21:33 < tcr> the latter two...
21:33 < tcr> I personally would be fine with a well-structured site in black on white
21:34 < chaosmaster> :)
21:34 < chaosmaster> this is (mostly) the same, what I said on the ML
21:35 < tcr> Was it you who reffered to the xinehq page?
21:35 < chaosmaster> design may be changed, but the content is terrible
21:35 < chaosmaster> yes, I reffered
21:36 < tcr> That's a very nicely cohorent webpage with a lot attractive, though not badly structured
21:36 < tcr> I mostly care for the coherentness
21:37 < chaosmaster> I like their way, how they made the download section - it's really easy to find everything
21:38 < esden> hi all
21:38 < chaosmaster> we still need content! adding it with structure is important, as many people will visit the hp when official 2.0 will be released
21:38 < chaosmaster> hi esden!
21:39 < tcr> chaosmaster: Well...
21:39 < tcr> chaosmaster: The menu issue isn't yet any better than it was before
21:40 < chaosmaster> i already tried to add some content, but its hard to work remote without having full access
21:40 < tcr> I hardly can give any real suggestions though... I just see with my eyes, that it isn't right this way
21:41 < chaosmaster> so tell, what's wrong in your opinion, and we may try to investigate further
21:42 < tcr> Ok, but let's do that in a query... it's difficult to express that in any language anyway, and if possible at all, then in your mother tongue
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21:43 < chaosmaster> :) bitte schön
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22:28 < rxr> re
22:28 < tcr> re
22:30 < rxr> hi chaosmaster
22:30 < _NULL_> someone using glibc-2.3.2, gcc-3.2.3 and tried to compile tcl-8.4.2 and got an error?
22:32 < rxr> _NULL_: yes, yes and nope
22:32 < _NULL_> *sigh*
22:32 < _NULL_> ok... thx... (dammit, where's the failure?)
22:32 < tcr> What error do you get?
22:33 < _NULL_> tcr: output in #flood?
22:34 < tcr> Upload is definitively better, so everybody can take easily a look at it
22:35 < _NULL_> aeh... i'm not using rock....
22:35 < _NULL_> (or the rock-scripts)
22:36 < tcr> Hm, ok. what are you trying? (ie. at what stept do you get the error)
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22:37 < freed> hi @ll
22:37 < _NULL_> tcr: lfs and in http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/view/cvs/chapter05/tcl.html << this step
22:38 < freed> lol geht ja so richtig los is schon 1700 mal gedownloadet worden
22:38 < freed> dat neue release mein ich
22:39 < _NULL_> hi freed
22:39 < tcr> _NULL_: Hmm, well I actually meant what was the last command you typied in
22:39 < freed> hi _null_
22:39 < rxr> chaosmaster: what do you mean with:
22:39 < rxr> 21:33 < chaosmaster> and as Joecelyn announced on fm, there may be some confusion about
22:39 < _NULL_> make LDFLAGS="-s"
22:39 < rxr>                      consistency
22:39 < rxr> 21:33 < chaosmaster> see drock und the root presence ....
22:40 < tcr> rxr: Maybe that drock should depriacted entirely right now
22:40 < rxr> tcr: hm ? Explain
22:43 < tcr> rxr: It may be just confusing ... drock has been integrated in rock, so there's no actual need for an extra release announcment of drock
22:43 < freed> hi rxr
22:43 < tcr> _NULL_: well then do 'make LDFLAGS="-s" 2>&1 | tee error.log' and upload that
22:43 < rxr> tcr: you really didn't got the point - reread the mailing-list of the last months ...
22:43 < rxr> hi freed !
22:44 < _NULL_> http://the-null.de.vu/errors/error.log
22:44 < _NULL_> @ tcr
22:44 < tcr> rxr: Well, a bit more specific wouldn't harm... too much traffic over the last month
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22:46 < rolla> == 15:48:51 =[5]=> Building rene/libdvdplay [1.0.1 1.7-snapshot].
22:46 < rxr> tcr: we explained often that we decided that most people do not get what "ROCK Linux the distribution build kit" really is about
22:47 < rolla> :)
22:47 < rxr> _not_ even the ROCK guide gets this correct (it needs to be 95% rewritten anyway)
22:47 < rxr> it is much better for ROCK when we announce and promote all the "ROCK powered" projects and hardware solutions seperately
22:48 < rxr> so we do not have one "eierlegende wollmich sau" but many single products that fit one particular purpose
22:48 < tcr> rxr: I'm in time fully aware what a DBK is all about
22:48 < rxr> with this "one big thing" the people do not get what ROCK is about - and leave quickly
22:49 < rolla> rxr I agree
22:49 < rolla> the Rock guide needs big help
22:50 < rxr> DBK ?
22:50 < tcr> distribution build kit (too lazy to write it in full name ;))
22:51 < rxr> ah ok
22:51 < tcr> wait up, I found the thread in the mailinglist
22:51 < rxr> so we have a announce of the pure build kit - and single announces of all the projects using it
22:53 < tcr> Well, the intent is certainly right, but it has seemed (to me and to others apparantly too) that whenever main-rock gets updated, drock gets also. And there can't be made really differences... I think that _is_ confusing
22:53 < n00kie> mmm
22:54 < tcr> drock might be just be too much interlocked with rock than it probably should... Dunno, if that's good or bad now ;)
22:56 < rxr> tcr: since I'm certainly do most work on ROCK Linux yes - dRock and ROCK have the same release schedule
22:57 < tcr> and that's a bit messy... Well, though I don't really know if it's that what niko meant... just a guess
22:57 < rxr> if other people would contribute more, this would change. Then other could tag individual components and we all would declare  the main "ROCK Linxu build kit" to have a new version when all agree
22:59 < rxr> if daja77 with rtai or Cliff and I with some NAS or Router thing tag individual product individual "ROCK Linux as it" would also get other version tags - but I really do not see that dRock and ROCK currently in sync should be a problem at all
22:59 < rxr> if you are happy I could increment the version of ROCK only every second time I increment dRock  or so ...
22:59 < tcr> rxr: Hmm, well... I'm not up to date to sources (though that will change in one or two month, when I plan to come back being actively developing)... but maybe targets should be handled like packages, ie. downloaded from somewhere else (so that there's a direct distinction between the DBK and a target)
23:01 < tcr> and also to make a target absolutely "independant" (to some degree)... Then the DBK would be really just like a Tool and not like a distribution
23:05 < rxr> no - this would be really messy
23:05 < rxr> you always would have to puzzle the right versions together and so
23:06 < rxr> maybe some strange targets in a strange state can be handled this way - but all normal any clean coded targets should in be ROCK itself
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23:08 < tcr> rxr: Hmm, I'm not really sure what the benefits are with that...
23:09 < chaosmaster> chaosmaster is back from silence .... sorry for not responding
23:10 < chaosmaster> hello rxr!
23:10 < rxr> one strange thing in ROCK always has been strange
23:10 < rxr> hi chaosmaster !
23:11 < chaosmaster> rxr: you asked about my comment about the page?
23:11 < rxr> chaosmaster: yes
23:11 < rxr> the active people where happy - and the other outstanding people complained withotu contributing
23:13 < tcr> _NULL_: Did you solve your problem? Sorry, that I suddenly interrupt talking to you
23:13 < chaosmaster> I'm just want to finish one piece of work, as I usualy don't do so and as the new webpage concept with Cliffs cms is quite good, it needs only some input from all people and we would have a very new page with sex-appeal ...
23:13 < rolla> == 16:06:31 =[5]=> Building gnome2/dia10 [0.91 1.7-snapshot].
23:14 < _NULL_> tcr: dunno... i'm doing a completely rebuild of the system (which is not much, till now)... a friend was able to build tcl without problems (on a LFS-system)
23:15 < rxr> chaosmaster: no I meant s.th. different - mom
23:15 < tcr> _NULL_: Well, the error seems very trivial (just missing some include file somewhere), but, as tcl is actually a big package, I except some deeper error. Are you familiar with C code?
23:16 < tcr> expect
23:16 < rxr> chaosmaster: :
23:16 < rxr> 21:33 < chaosmaster> and as Joecelyn announced on fm, there may be some confusion about
23:16 < rxr>                      consistency
23:16 < rxr> 21:33 < chaosmaster> see drock und the root presence ....
23:17 < chaosmaster> yes, thats right
23:17 < _NULL_> tcr: yes i am... but - i'm still trying to reproduce the error... if this works - then i will have a deeper look into it... (but still i hope something is wrong with the stuff i did)
23:18 < rxr> chaosmaster: I meant: what do you want to say with this - I don't understand ...
23:18 < chaosmaster> I mean the beta cms is on rocklinux.net and curently just a test, but your part on rocklinux.org is in the new design and thats inconsistend - even with the cms
23:20 < rxr> ahh !!! ok - I thought you meant some dRock ROCK confusion in general ...
23:20 < rxr> I think most normal people do not find the CMS
23:20 < rxr> so this should be no problem
23:20 < chaosmaster> I would like to port the whole page to the cms and go online as you announce more and more releases on fm and people will go to our page and we have the same "no sex-appeal" and hobby-project iomage
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23:21 < chaosmaster> but only the drock page is different from the rest of rocklinux._org_
23:21 < rxr> chaosmaster: if you find people to do all the migration ...
23:21 < chaosmaster> I will!
23:21 < rxr> ah keep going
23:21 < n00kie> ahhhhhhhh
23:21 < tcr> Hmm, can't that be automated?
23:21 < n00kie> i hate this damn damn damn fdisk
23:21 < n00kie> waaah
23:21 < n00kie> it destroyed my hdd :-(
23:21 < rxr> but as cliff if you can start now - and the content you enter now can be later used for the ROCK side - or if there will be some data model change ...
23:22 < rxr> chaosmaster: btw do you regular ROCK builds ?
23:22 < chaosmaster> as you may notice, I tried to get back active on the list and made a bunch of propositions, but they got no response, even no echo :(
23:22 < chaosmaster> no regulars, but a 4 weeks old build is on my server running (inconsistent)
23:23 < chaosmaster> (it's silly to try to install a p4 build on an athlon)
23:23 < rxr> inconsistent ?
23:23 < rxr> ah yes
23:23 < tcr> rxr: Not all time running
23:23 < rxr> chaosmaster: any chance you get active before the final 2.0 ?
23:23 < chaosmaster> so i had to rebuild the most importatnt packages and try and try ....
23:24 < chaosmaster> what kind of activity do you need?
23:24 < chaosmaster> I wanted to make the categories, I would migrate the page, but not without ppl standing behind the whole idea!
23:25 < rxr> mostly verifing that it does not only buld on my box - but also on others
23:25 < rxr> for the desktop target I seem to be down to 25 errors only ;-)
23:25 < rxr> more to be killed this weekend
23:25 < chaosmaster> thats not the problem, as I send patches, as soon as i can fix a package - and then a whole bunch of them :)
23:26 < rxr> yeah ...
23:26 < tcr> chaosmaster: What must be migrated?
23:27 < rxr> chaosmaster: would be good to use my svn tree - it is more up to date (as cliff is currently too busy)
23:27 < chaosmaster> but, I'm willing to do the work no one cares about - webpage and docs :) and testing
23:27 < chaosmaster> how hard is it to install svn as I don't want to do much around svn
23:28 < chaosmaster> do you have an cvs gw?
23:28 < rxr> no gateway - but subversion (client only) is a tar xvfI ; ./configure ; make ; make install
23:28 < chaosmaster> tcr: its still the page design
23:29 < rxr> or do a Build-Pkg subversion (within a consistent ROCK build) and you'll get a server-able subversion
23:29 < chaosmaster> :) I love ROCK :)
23:29 < rxr> chaosmaster: I care about docu and homepage - this is why I also reworked the whole dRock page ...
23:29 < rxr> chaosmaster: have you taken a look - I did more rework today on the dRock page
23:30 < chaosmaster> rxr: I'm not uptodate today ....
23:30 < chaosmaster> but most changes in cms are made by me
23:30 < rxr> but for my content on www.rocklinux.org I would prefer my current non-cms way since I can spell-check the pages and do advanced editing in my favourite editor ...
23:30 < tcr> chaosmaster: So I convinced you that the design isn't perfect?
23:30 * rxr away su later
23:30 < tcr> chaosmaster: You talked before more about content rather than design
23:30 < chaosmaster> your spell is always right :)
23:31 < chaosmaster> design is secondary, but structure is very important!
23:31 < chaosmaster> its still hard to navigate and to find anything on rocks pages
23:32 < chaosmaster> its not the standard way: change "obtain a copy" to downloads or software and so on ...
23:32 < tcr> Yup
23:33 < chaosmaster> ups, sorry - its there :)
23:34 < tcr> I know a guy who's a very good hobby webdesigner. Though it's quite a time ago I've seen him the last time...
23:34 < chaosmaster> ... but: I think a static box above would be better than everytime changing options in the menu. keep the main topics always on the side and ADD specialized topics below to navigate
23:35 < chaosmaster> tcr: try to contact him, pls
23:36 < tcr> Yeah I'll...
23:37 < n00kie> hmm
23:37 < n00kie> dunno == don't know ?
23:37 < chaosmaster> ??
23:37 < n00kie> what means dunno ?
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23:38 < tcr> n00kie: Yop
23:38 < chaosmaster> AFAIK
23:38 < n00kie> ah, ty
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23:38 < chaosmaster> hello aszlig
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23:40 < tcr> LOL, Harald Schmidt is great today
23:40 < chaosmaster> rxr: whats about more subpages for the 2.0.0.html? there is still to much on there: history, install, bugs, ...
23:40 < chaosmaster> tcr, my tv is dead for months now ....
23:43 < tcr> chaosmaster: You're missing something!
23:44 < chaosmaster> tcr: where is the livestream?
23:46 < tcr> of harald schmidt?!
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23:47 < n00kie> when i dd if=/dev/null /dev/hdb make
23:47 < n00kie> how would it look like on devfs?
23:47 < chaosmaster> n00kie: not g00d! ;)
23:47 < n00kie> /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/cd or /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0/cd
23:47 < n00kie> ?
23:47 < n00kie> fdisk destroyed my hdd
23:47 < chaosmaster> I mean dd on your hdd
23:48 < n00kie> hmm ?
23:48 < chaosmaster> btw: if=/dev/zero is better I think
23:48 < n00kie> alright
23:48 < n00kie> wish me luck man
23:49 < chaosmaster> what is hdb? a hdd or cdrom?
23:49 < n00kie> hdd
23:49 < n00kie> destroyed hdd from evil fdisk
23:49 < chaosmaster> so what is  /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/cd good for?
23:50 < n00kie> there is no "disk"
23:50 < n00kie> just cd
23:50 < n00kie> mmm
23:50 < n00kie> wait
23:50 < n00kie>            FATALER FEHLER: Konnte nicht auf die Festplatte zugreifen
23:50 < n00kie>                     Eine Taste drücken, um cfdisk zu beenden
23:50 < n00kie> Fatal Error:
23:50 < n00kie> Cannot get access to hdd
23:51 * chaosmaster has just eat a pkg of cheese, 1 Fladenbrot and 1 tomato
23:51 < n00kie> press any key to close cfdisk
23:51 < n00kie> What should I do?
23:51 < chaosmaster> n00kie: I dont use cfdisk ... why not the hard way and just fdisk?
23:51 < chaosmaster> so do you have any /dev/discs/* ?
23:52 < chaosmaster> what does /proc/partitions say?
23:54 < n00kie> mom
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23:54 < n00kie> [23:54:08][root@n0nsense][/home/n00kie]> cat /proc/partitions
23:54 < n00kie> major minor  #blocks  name
23:54 < n00kie>    3     0   80043264 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc
23:54 < n00kie>    3     1    3068383 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1
23:54 < n00kie>    3     2          1 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2
23:54 < n00kie>    3     5   35840983 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part5
23:54 < n00kie>    3     6    9767488 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6
23:54 < n00kie>    3     7     248976 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part7
23:55 < n00kie>    3     8    7815591 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part8
23:55 < n00kie>    3    64    9965592 ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/disc
23:55 < n00kie> ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/disc is the destroyed disk
23:55 < n00kie> From FDISK
23:55 < chaosmaster> what do you mean by destroyed? crashed parttable?
23:56 < n00kie> everything
23:56 < n00kie> can't create new partitions
23:56 < n00kie> can't get access
23:56 < n00kie> to the hdd
23:56 < n00kie> everything destroyed
23:56 < n00kie> FROM DISK
23:56 < n00kie> Fdisk
23:57 < chaosmaster> that doesnt look like a fdisk problem, but a real crash
23:57 < n00kie> yes
23:57 < n00kie> From FDSISK
23:57 < n00kie> FDisk
23:57 < n00kie> The damn program destroyed my hdd
23:57 < n00kie> I hate this program
23:57 < chaosmaster> thats not possible
23:57 < n00kie> waah
23:57 < n00kie> my poor hdd :-(
23:58 < chaosmaster> there is a "IBM hdd test tool" out there - maybe you can check the disk?
23:58 < n00kie> for linux?
23:58 < chaosmaster> in my repository in rock is a tool called gpart, which can bring partitions "back"
23:58 < chaosmaster> its a boot floppy image
23:59 < n00kie> i don't have floppy :)
23:59 < chaosmaster> thats a problem :)
23:59 < n00kie> fuck fdisk
23:59 < n00kie> sorry
23:59 < n00kie> but fuck fdisk
23:59 < n00kie> :-(
23:59 < n00kie> wraahh
23:59 < n00kie> just bad
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