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--- Log opened Fri May 09 00:00:55 2003 --- Day changed Fri May 09 2003 00:08 -!- Caspar [~steven261@M081P027.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 00:09 < esden> ahh nice ... 2 mins and a cd is burned ... 00:09 < esden> I like that cdburner ;-) 00:09 < Caspar> ;) 00:09 < esden> hi Caspar 00:09 < Caspar> hi 00:10 -!- Caspar_ [~steven261@M094P017.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 00:11 < esden> Caspar_: ??? 00:11 < Caspar_> yes? 00:11 < Caspar_> oh, my modem disconnected ;) 00:11 < esden> ahh I see 00:11 < Caspar_> [3] base/coreutils [5] rene/eet 00:11 < Caspar_> [5] rene/fribidi 00:11 < Caspar_> 677 builds total, 424 completed fine, 3 with errors. 00:11 < Caspar_> :) 00:12 < esden> nice 00:12 < esden> very nice 00:13 < esden> but you still have some way to go ... 00:13 < Caspar_> coreutils should be fixed, fribidi is because i forgot to download ;) 00:13 < Caspar_> i hope wine compiles ... 00:14 < esden> ok ... the p2 optimized build boot's 00:14 < esden> nice nice nice 00:16 < esden> that here is not so nice: 00:16 < esden> 1534 builds total, 1100 completed fine, 91 with errors. 00:16 < esden> the generic build 00:16 < esden> optimized for pentium 00:16 < Caspar_> :( i didn't try the generic build yet ... 00:16 < Mike1> 1530 builds total, 259 completed fine, 0 with errors. 00:19 < esden> Mike1: the errors will come ;-) 00:20 < esden> ok burning the second cd 00:20 < esden> netrunner requested them from me ;-) 00:21 < esden> one has to support new rockers ;-) 00:22 < esden> hehe 1 minute and ready ;-) 00:23 < Mike1> esden: sure, i am bughunting, evelutions and gnucash are my main targets, as they are the only 2 borken packages on my repos.. 00:23 < Mike1> esden: i am a new rocker too, will you support / sponsor me? 00:23 < esden> Mike1: nope you are an old one ;-) ... but I can send you one of my builds ;-) 00:24 < Mike1> esden: sure why not :) 00:24 < Mike1> but hey i am not old :) 00:24 < esden> yes you are ... you are a grandpa 00:25 < Mike1> esden: you are older then me :) 00:25 < Mike1> in age and in developing for rock time :P 00:26 -!- Caspar__ [~steven261@M088P018.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 00:26 < esden> Mike1: I have not compared your rocklinux age to mine ... 00:26 < esden> I am a dinosaur ;-) 00:26 < Mike1> esden: sure you are :) 00:26 < esden> ok ... cd's for netrunner are ready 00:27 < Mike1> Caspar__ quite a unstable conection huh? 00:27 < Caspar__> seems so - strange 00:27 -!- Caspar [~steven261@M081P027.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00:28 * Caspar__ is cloned ;) 00:28 < rxr> re 00:28 < esden> wb rxr! 00:28 * -> esden is kuddling his new cdburner ;-) 00:29 < Mike1> lol 00:29 < Mike1> hi rxr 00:29 < Caspar__> hi rxr 00:33 < esden> urgh a yamaha burner with T@2 capability costs at ebay nearly 200EUR >_< 00:34 < esden> why the hell has yamaha stopped producing them >_< 00:35 < esden> or better they stopped producing any optical storage devices 00:35 < rxr> hi esden 00:35 < rxr> esden: can you recomment a apache log visualizer = 00:35 -!- Davey- [~dave@bc-trl-a53-01-95.look.ca] has joined #rocklinux 00:35 < rxr> argh 00:35 < Davey-> sup people 00:35 < rxr> today my fingers like the = ... s/=/?/ 00:35 < Mike1> rxr: webalizer .. ? 00:36 < esden> rxr: I use webalizer 00:36 < rxr> currently I try https://awstats.sourceforge.net/ 00:36 < Mike1> rxr: you didn't ask me but i though i could help.. 00:36 < Davey-> I saw on distrowatch that dROCK • 2.0.0-beta iso's are on there, and I was wondering are those bootable, like is that how u can install it or do you have to have a base system or what? 00:36 < rxr> Davey-: bootable 00:37 < rxr> incl. installer 00:37 < Davey-> nice :) 00:37 < Davey-> stable? 00:37 < rxr> -beta2 will be more stable ... ,) 00:37 < Mike1> Davey-: its a beta brother... 00:37 < esden> rxr: looks nice 00:38 < Mike1> esden: it might be worth to try it don't you think? 00:38 -!- Caspar_ [~steven261@M094P017.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00:38 < Davey-> you guys actually have a pretty good amount of users in here :) 00:38 < Mike1> esden: looks prettier than webalizer at least... 00:38 < esden> Mike1: ack 00:38 < esden> Davey-: ack ;-) 00:39 < Davey-> ack ? 00:39 < Davey-> lol 00:39 < Mike1> esden: for one moment i thought i was been ignored 00:39 < Mike1> :) 00:39 < esden> Davey-: syn -> ack (icmp protocol) 00:39 < Davey-> yea...I know, but why was I told "ack" lol 00:39 < esden> but all protocols use this kind of handshake 00:39 < Mike1> Davey-: you are only whatching some of the people that is closer to the project, we have many more users :) 00:39 < esden> ack = acknowledge 00:40 < Davey-> glad to see some people are actually doin some work not like every other distro thats using r_dhat for their base 00:40 < esden> Mike1: ack (the next time ...) 00:40 < rxr> Davey-: ;-) 00:40 * -> esden should inclede ack in ircstats word watch 00:41 < rxr> esden: another Q 00:41 * Davey- throws some more compliments towards people actually doin work 00:41 < Mike1> esden: "<esden> Mike1: ack (the next time ...)" <--- didn't get this one 00:41 < rxr> esden: why are so many days unrecognized in your irc stat ? 00:41 < esden> rxr: my stats are bit broken ... I have to run a cleanup script ... 00:41 < esden> rxr: I do it in a moment 00:42 < rxr> esden: ah - the date "Unknown" is quite populated ... 00:42 < esden> Mike1: because I said ack the second time in a very short time ... 00:42 < Mike1> esden: ok.. 00:43 < esden> rxr: when the day changes irssi is not inserting the current date propperly ... I have to fix that using a cleanup script 00:43 < esden> Davey-: thank you for the compliments ... we work hard for that 00:43 < Davey-> haha 00:43 < Davey-> np 00:43 < esden> *G* 00:45 < Caspar__> awstats looksnice ;) 00:48 < rxr> oh - people with IE on my homepage ? 00:50 < esden> rxr: hehe ;-) 00:50 * -> esden was with ie on rxr's page 00:50 < rxr> really ? 00:50 < esden> while I was in bitz 00:50 < rxr> in the last few seconds ? 00:50 < esden> there are winxp boxes 00:50 < esden> nope 00:50 < esden> not in the last seconds 00:50 < rxr> I had to reconfigure the access format and so restart the log for this awstat 00:51 < Caspar__> one more error :( [5] gnome14/galeon12 00:51 * -> esden would like to see stats for the rocklinux.org and www.rocklinux.net pages 00:52 < Mike1> rxr: how long do think it will take 3 build generic on a dual Athlon MP 1.5ghz? 00:52 < Caspar__> oh - only shared files ;) 00:54 < rxr> Caspar__: hm ? 00:54 < Caspar__> var/opt/gnome/scrollkeeper/C/scrollkeeper_cl.xml: galeon12 glade10 00:54 < Caspar__> var/opt/gnome/scrollkeeper/C/scrollkeeper_extended_cl.xml: galeon12 glade10 00:54 < Mike1> rxr...? 00:55 < rxr> Mike1: hm - a generic. Did not build it for a long time - a desktop might take around 2 days or so without the rebuild stage 00:55 < rxr> Caspar__: already fixed - do an svn up 00:55 < Mike1> rxr: mm.. ok, 2 days on a 2x1500mhz box? 00:55 < Mike1> my god :(( 00:56 < Caspar__> rxr: in the last 2 hours ? 00:56 < rxr> Mike1: Only a guess - after all the big bugs crawled into the tree over the last three weeks I have no time feeling anymore 00:56 < rxr> Caspar__: 10 minutes ago ;-) 00:56 < Mike1> rxr: poor rxr 00:56 < esden> ok ... stats fixed 00:57 < Caspar__> ;) 00:57 * Mike1 checking stats 00:57 < rxr> Mike1: the -beta was a pain - I can give you build times for -beta2 (much nicer) 00:57 < esden> for the ones that do not know it yet https://www.rocklinux.org/people/esden/ircstat/ 00:57 < esden> rxr: are you syncing the beta fixes with cliff? 00:58 < Mike1> rxr: good. 00:58 < rxr> esden: yes sure. 00:58 < rxr> he has unapplied patches lying around for 2 or 3 days now 00:58 < esden> rxr: good 00:58 < Mike1> rxr: anyways when will beta2 be out? and when are you going to work fixing generic? 00:58 < rxr> and new are already waiting to be send ... 00:58 < esden> rxr: hmm ... he is back to busy state as it seems 00:58 < rxr> Mike1: fixing desktop means fixing generic, too. 00:59 < esden> rxr: do you make generic test builds? 00:59 < rxr> Mike1: but do not expect me to do all work - release manager / stable maintainer does not mean "people who does any crap" ... 00:59 < Mike1> rxr: i need to fix evoultion and gnuchas, and also wanna see how broken is generic, so will do that on the smp box first, then i will play around with your tree 00:59 < rxr> esden: this is a hardware limiting factor here 00:59 < esden> rxr: ok ... I download your svn stuff and build generic 00:59 < rxr> my box is continuesly busy with dektop and install builds 01:00 < esden> pentium2 optimizid ... 01:00 < rxr> but I could run a ( ./scripts/Cretae-ErrLst -newdelete ; ./scripta/Build-target -cfg generic ) 01:00 < rxr> loop - but not complete rebuilds every week 01:00 < rxr> esden: that would be nice 01:00 < esden> rxr: ok ok ... I know that you are doing your best ... I try to help 01:00 < Mike1> rxr: please don't missunderstand me, i am not trying to offend you or take credits away from ur work in drock, i was curious 01:01 < rxr> I already reduced the error count from > 100 to 27 or so ;-) 01:01 < esden> rxr: please tell me the svn link 01:01 < esden> I add it to the topic 01:01 < rxr> I expect 0 errors in the desktop confing in some days 01:01 < rxr> https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk/ 01:01 < esden> and how should the svn command sound? 01:02 < rxr> svn co https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk/ 01:03 -!- mode/#rocklinux [+o esden] by ChanServ 01:04 -!- esden changed the topic of #rocklinux to: OCK Linux 1.5/1.6 is depricated please use 1.7/2.0 instead : ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now ( clifford 1.7 tree: cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@clifford.homedns.org:/home/cvs co -P rock-src-1.7; rxr 2.0 tree: svn co https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk/ ) 01:04 <@esden> urgh that is long 01:04 -!- mode/#rocklinux [-o esden] by esden 01:05 < rxr> esden: you are crazy 01:05 < Davey-> haha 01:06 < esden> rxr: full ack ... and I am proud of it ;-) 01:07 < rxr> I know - that's good 01:07 * Davey- thinks u people say ack too much 01:08 * Caspar__ sees an error in topic ;) 01:08 < Davey-> me2 01:08 < Davey-> lol 01:08 < Mike1> to: OCK Linux 01:08 < esden> Davey-: you may be right 01:09 < esden> ups 01:09 -!- mode/#rocklinux [+o esden] by ChanServ 01:09 -!- esden changed the topic of #rocklinux to: ROCK Linux 1.5/1.6 is depricated please use 1.7/2.0 instead : ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now ( clifford 1.7 tree: cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@clifford.homedns.org:/home/cvs co -P rock-src-1.7; rxr 2.0 tree: svn co https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk/ ) 01:09 -!- mode/#rocklinux [-o esden] by esden 01:09 < esden> better? 01:09 < Mike1> much better esden 01:09 < Caspar__> ;) 01:09 < esden> good 01:09 < esden> I am too tired ... 01:12 < Caspar__> rxr: just one more :( gimp14 01:13 < esden> argh /me has muscle ache 01:14 < rxr> Caspar__: you mean it is failing ? 01:14 < Caspar__> yes - compile error 01:14 < rxr> jups - known 01:14 < rxr> how many other errors do you have ? 01:15 < rxr> These are know (and scheduled for fix until sunday night): 01:15 < rxr> [3] base/pam [5] gnome2/gimp14 01:15 < rxr> [5] rene/sylpheed [5] kde31/kdemultimedia31 01:15 < rxr> [5] tibit/ctags [5] rene/koffice-i18n 01:15 < rxr> [5] rene/kmatplot [5] mnemoc/openldap 01:15 < rxr> [5] rene/wine [5] base/pam 01:15 < rxr> [5] kasc/paragui [5] kasc/smpeg 01:15 < rxr> [5] rene/anjuta [5] kasc/libsdl_perl 01:15 < rxr> [5] kasc/openal [5] kasc/clanlib 01:15 < Caspar__> [3] base/coreutils [5] rene/eet 01:15 < Caspar__> [5] rene/fribidi [5] gnome14/galeon12 01:15 < Caspar__> [5] gnome2/gimp14 01:15 < Caspar__> 677 builds total, 429 completed fine, 5 with errors. 01:15 < rxr> [5] kasc/gnomemeeting [5] kasc/asc 01:15 < rxr> [5] kasc/barrage [5] kasc/frozen-bubble 01:15 < rxr> [5] kasc/kapitalist [5] kasc/openglad 01:15 < rxr> [5] kasc/pingus [7] base/rfc 01:15 < rxr> [7] x11/imagemagick 01:15 < rxr> 676 builds total, 651 completed fine, 25 with errors. 01:15 < rxr> some of the kasc urls are broken - so I even miss the files ... 01:16 < rxr> Caspar__: fibidi ??? What is it's error ? 01:16 < Caspar__> i forgot to download ;( 01:17 < rxr> :-( 01:17 < rxr> ah 01:17 < Caspar__> me too: 01:17 < Caspar__> root:/data/rock-svn/rock-trunk# ./scripts/Download -list-missing 01:17 < Caspar__> download/base/gccx/gcc-20030506.tar.bz2 01:17 < Caspar__> download/kasc/barrage/barrage-1.0.1.tar.bz2 01:17 < Caspar__> download/kasc/openal/openal-311202.tar.bz2 01:17 < Caspar__> download/kasc/smpeg/smpeg-0.4.5.tar.bz2 01:17 < Caspar__> download/mnemoc/lvs/ipvs-1.0.8.tar.bz2 01:17 < Caspar__> cantus-1.06-1.tar.bz2 01:18 < Caspar__> download/rene/subversion/subversion-0.22.0.tar.bz2 01:20 * -> esden building subversion ... it takes decades 01:21 < Caspar__> yesterday you said wine builds fine - now it is on your list ? 01:21 < rxr> Caspar__: it built fine in my current running system 01:21 < rxr> in the whole build (in the sandbox) it failed ... :-( 01:22 * Caspar__ would like to know why wine is so difficult to build :( 01:23 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux 1.5/1.6 is depricated please use 1.7/2.0 instead : ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now ( clifford 1.7 tree: cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@clifford.homedns.org:/home/cvs co -P rock-src-1.7; rxr 2.0 tree: svn co https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk/ ) 01:23 -!- Topic set by esden [Fri May 9 01:09:26 2003] 01:23 < rxr> Caspar__: it was never difficult to build 01:23 < rxr> it is just some strange inconsistency I need to figure out 01:23 < rxr> sometimes it misses HeapFree HeapAlloc for Direct3D 01:23 < rxr> I'll take a look into this soon 01:24 < Caspar__> if i would know what this means, i would help to fix it ... 01:24 < Mike1> == 17:20:09 =[5]=> Building x11/netpbm [10.12 1.7-snapshot]. 01:24 < Mike1> == 12:30:42 =[5]=> Building base/linux24 [2.4.21-rc1 1.7-snapshot]. 01:24 < Mike1> == 11:20:57 =[0]=> Building base/linux24-header [2.4.21-rc1 1.7-snapshot]. 01:29 < Caspar__> rxr: did you fix the problem with coreutils/automake ? 01:29 < rxr> Caspar__: no sorry 01:29 < rxr> I worked the whole day writing Windows CAD software ... 01:29 < Caspar__> no real problem - coreutils is rebuild at stage 5 ;) 01:29 < rxr> currently I do some maintenace on my servers 01:31 < Caspar__> some days ago there was an discussion about kadzu and hwscan on the list - whats the status about this ? 01:31 < Mike1> rxr: the whole coreutils problems happens because acl-xattr.diff and no-broken-progs.patch modify configure.ac, so it screams because as it is modifed it required autoconf 01:31 < Mike1> rxr: on stage 5 it will build perfect because autoconf is there. 01:32 < esden> ok ... checing svn 2.0 trunk 01:32 < esden> grr ... i mean checking out 01:32 < Mike1> rxr: i have fixed the problem on my private tree, but its kind of dirty 01:33 < Mike1> rxr: would you like me to send it a patch to you ? 01:33 < Mike1> -it 01:34 < rxr> Mike1: sure I'll take a look 01:34 < Mike1> rxr ok in a moment i sent it to you 01:35 < rxr> take your time - I'm busy anyway 01:35 < Mike1> rxr: i am busy too, but it won't take too long 01:35 * Caspar__ wants to detect graphic card and monitor like knoppix 01:36 * Mike1 has been forced to switch to smp mode... 01:37 < esden> Mike1: women are best at it ;-) 01:37 < rxr> Caspar__: we have our hwscan - and if you ask me kazu will not make it into ROCK 01:37 < Caspar__> it seems i could get graphic card detection by lspci and the Cards file of XFree 01:37 < rxr> Caspar__: hotplug alone is so dirty that we rewrite it ROCK-style 01:37 < Mike1> esden: ? 01:37 < rxr> (read keep it stupid simple) 01:37 < Caspar__> i dont want kazu - but i want detect my monitor :( 01:38 < rxr> Caspar__: sure 01:38 < rxr> we'll intrgrate hotplug and hwscan - and the monitor detection for X should be easy, too 01:38 < esden> svn_error: #21082 : <RA layer request failed> 01:38 < esden> PROPFIND of /svn/rock-linux/!svn/bc/162/rock-tags/2.0.0-beta/package/rene/commonc%20%20: 404 Not Found 01:38 < Caspar__> the only package i've found so far which can read DCC info from montitor is kazu 01:38 < esden> argh!!! 01:38 < esden> I will check out it tomorrow or so ... >_< 01:39 < rxr> esden: what CMD line did you use ? 01:39 < esden> rxr: the one that is in the topic 01:39 < rxr> esden: which subversino version did you use 01:39 < esden> a too old one ... because I have not been able to compile the current one 01:39 < esden> due to a compile error 01:40 < Caspar__> rxr: why do you think monitor detection is easy ? i've font no info yet on www 01:40 < esden> subversion/mod_dav_svn/liveprops.c: In function `dav_svn_insert_prop': 01:40 < esden> subversion/mod_dav_svn/liveprops.c:310: parse error before "APR_UINT64_T_FMT" 01:40 < esden> make: *** [subversion/mod_dav_svn/liveprops.lo] Error 1 01:40 < rxr> Caspar__: I meant graphic card 01:40 < esden> I do not want the module 01:40 < rxr> the detection can be left to the xserver - see xrandr 01:40 < esden> but I have not found a switch to disable it ... 01:41 < rxr> which version was the new one you tried - and which is the one you are using now ? 01:41 < esden> 0.12.0 01:41 < rxr> wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 01:41 < esden> is the one I tryed now ... 01:41 < rxr> do you know how old this beast is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 01:41 < esden> I mean tryed to compile 01:42 < esden> urgh 01:42 < esden> sorry *hide* 01:42 < rxr> take 0.22.0 01:42 < rxr> or 0.21.0 ! 01:42 < esden> ehhm I mean it was 0.21.0 01:42 < esden> not 12 ... 01:42 < rxr> ah 01:42 < rxr> puh ... 01:42 < Mike1> lol 01:43 < Mike1> rxr: you almost freak my friend 01:43 < rxr> esden: are you sure you used rock-trunk at the end of the url ? 01:43 < esden> I freaked the shit out of rxr too I think 01:43 < esden> yes ... wait I retry building 21 01:44 < rxr> I just doing a vanilla checkout here - and it runs fine so far 01:44 < Caspar__> rxr: xrandr looks like there has to be already a running X server ? 01:44 < Mike1> esden: you certainly did 01:46 < rxr> Caspar__: the the refresh rates to s.th. useable start X with a script that first uses xrandr to make a resolution choice based uppon the data provided 01:46 < esden> hehe ... outside is a storm ... and I hear guys crying around how cool that is ... 01:46 < esden> they must be drunk badly 01:46 < Mike1> lol 01:46 < Mike1> esden: some fireworks would rock if you really wanna scare them right now don't you think? 01:47 < esden> Mike1: yes fireworks in their direction ;-) 01:47 < Mike1> esden: we are evel 01:47 < Mike1> evil* 01:47 < esden> yes we are ;-) 01:47 < Caspar__> rxr: i'll try this out tomorrow ... 01:52 < rxr> [reminder] tomorrow is the offical chat! 01:53 < rxr> esden: works fine here: 01:53 < rxr> Checked out revision 162. 01:54 < rxr> oui - a working copy has a size of 82 MB 01:56 < esden> rxr: yes sure ... I remember ... I have to change the wellcome message of #rocklinux as requested by jocelin when I am back on my feet 01:57 < esden> my poor box ... it is building svn, alsa and mozilla symultanously ... 01:57 < esden> I really have to consider buying new hardware ... >_< 01:59 < Mike1> ahh, coreutils patch ready, restesting it once more before submiting it :) 01:59 < Mike1> retesting* 02:01 < rxr> esden: /me too 02:01 * rxr really needs a quad Athlon64 box with arround 8GB RAM 02:01 < rxr> that would match my needs ... 02:04 < esden> rxr: not only yours 02:04 < esden> ask amd ... 02:04 < esden> when 2.0 is out ... 02:06 < rxr> esden: not before ? 02:07 < rxr> with the iBook I carry around I should ask if I get an better one for free - I do so much pro Apple advertisement ... 02:07 < esden> after the 1.6 desaster? 02:07 < rxr> esden: they don't now 02:07 < esden> hmm ... yes ... ok 02:07 < esden> so we should ask 02:07 < esden> if they will borrow at least such boxes 02:08 < Mike1> rxr, esden don't forget about /me when begging for hardware.. 02:08 < Mike1> please :) 02:08 < esden> Mike1: you get my box if I get such a monster ;-) 02:08 < Mike1> esden: arrgg!! i want a monster too 02:08 < Mike1> :) 02:08 < esden> hehe ... 02:09 < Mike1> esden: but natalie will be welcome as well.. 02:09 < Mike1> *ggg* 02:09 < rxr> Mike1: why monster - I consider this small-scale 02:09 < rxr> entry level ... 02:09 < esden> rxr: yes ... you are right 02:09 < Mike1> rxr: it was just an expression after esden's monster expression.. 02:10 < esden> rxr: in some months such a box is boring and too slow 02:10 < rxr> so I have this awstat running on my too servers 02:11 * -> esden working on getting new svn and alsa working on his box 02:12 < Mike1> rxr: patch for coreutils is ready, but i am for my build to get to the point where it fails so i can make sure it works perfect, this is on the smp box so won't take too long ok? 02:12 < esden> rxr: how can I use svn over a proxy? 02:13 < Mike1> +waiting... 02:13 < Mike1> esden: man svn :) 02:13 * Mike1 teasing esden :)) 02:13 < esden> Mike1: I would not ask if it would be in there ... 02:14 < rxr> esden: yes - but never tried. Read the FAQ ... 02:19 < Mike1> esden: 02:19 < Mike1> Some proxies that filter port 80 nevertheless allow anything on port 81. For this reason, the svn.collab.net repository server listens on port 81 as well as on port 80. Try: 02:19 < Mike1> svn checkout https://svn.collab.net:81/repos/svn/trunk subversion 02:20 < Mike1> esden: actually just: https://subversion.tigris.org/project_faq.html#proxy 02:20 < Mike1> read the whole thing 02:20 < esden> Mike1: I found it ... 02:20 < Mike1> esden: ah ok. good then. 02:20 * -> esden is configuring svn 02:20 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux 1.5/1.6 is depricated please use 1.7/2.0 instead : ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now ( clifford 1.7 tree: cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@clifford.homedns.org:/home/cvs co -P rock-src-1.7; rxr 2.0 tree: svn co https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk/ ) 02:20 -!- Topic set by esden [Fri May 9 01:09:26 2003] 02:21 < rxr> esden: adding a proxy shouldn't be that hard ... 02:21 < rxr> is it ? 02:21 * Mike1 away throwing up..brb.. 02:30 < Mike1> re... :(( 02:31 < esden> bllll ... 02:31 < esden> it is not working ... somehow 02:31 < esden> I set up everything correctly but it still does not work ... 02:31 < esden> I fight with it tomorrow 02:31 < esden> good night everyone 02:32 < Mike1> n8 esdy 03:10 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Real Life is just an illusion caused by IRC deprivation") 03:36 < rxr> n8 03:36 < rxr> Marcelo Tosatti <m Linux 2.4.21-rc2 03:37 -!- rxr [~rxr@port-212-202-172-137.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit ("leaving") 03:40 < Mike1> 1530 builds total, 302 completed fine, 0 with errors. 03:42 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090B94B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:45 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p50802B9F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03:48 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090B619.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:05 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M278P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04:08 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M273P028.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 05:16 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 05:27 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p50802B73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 05:27 < Mike1> hi netrunner 05:31 < Mike1> anyone awake? 05:31 * Mike1 bored as hell.. 05:34 < n00kie> hola Mike1 :) 05:35 < n00kie> Comó usted allí? :) 05:35 < Mike1> estoy muy bien! 05:35 < Mike1> y tu? 05:35 < n00kie> mui bien, gracias :) 05:35 < n00kie> muy 05:35 < Mike1> (tu = unpersonal way to say you) 05:35 < Mike1> n00kie: tu = dir 05:35 < n00kie> yep :) 05:35 < Mike1> n00kie: usted = Ihnen 05:35 < n00kie> ah 05:36 < n00kie> and what should I write? 05:36 < Mike1> :) 05:36 < Mike1> to me? tu :) 05:36 < Mike1> n00kie: do bist mein freund. 05:36 < Mike1> du* 05:36 < n00kie> Mike1 mi amigo. :) 05:37 < Mike1> ack 05:37 < n00kie> Mike1 gusto de café 05:37 < Mike1> english please 05:37 < n00kie> Mike1 likes coffee 05:37 < n00kie> wasn't this correct? :( 05:38 < Mike1> n00kie: more or less 05:38 < n00kie> uhm 05:38 < Mike1> n00kie: the right way wopuld be: 05:38 < n00kie> and what is correct? :) 05:38 < Mike1> a Mike1 le gusta el cafe :) 05:39 < n00kie> alright :) 05:39 < Mike1> n00kie: also want to say: "Do you want some coffee Mike?" you say "Quieres un poco de cafe Mike?" 05:39 < n00kie> ah 05:39 < n00kie> ok :) 05:40 < n00kie> I put this in my dictionary 05:40 < Mike1> so what are you doing up this early my friend? 05:41 < n00kie> I'm making homework 05:42 < Mike1> hehehe 05:42 < n00kie> :) 05:42 < Mike1> lazy boy 05:42 < Mike1> is that homework for today? 05:42 < n00kie> yes 05:43 < n00kie> in 2 hours school 05:43 < Mike1> LOL 05:43 < n00kie> but nobody is lazier than esden 05:43 < n00kie> you said ;) 05:43 < Mike1> n00kie: well i think _NULL_ can be lazier sometimes 05:43 < Mike1> but keep the secret 05:43 < Mike1> :) 05:43 < n00kie> ehehe, right :) 05:44 < Mike1> hehe gee is really early for you 05:44 < n00kie> hehe 05:44 < n00kie> uhuh 05:44 < n00kie> :) 05:45 < n00kie> 9:43 05:45 < Mike1> hehe 05:45 -!- Davey- [~dave@bc-trl-a53-01-95.look.ca] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:45 < Mike1> yup i still have to go to bed sometime later 05:45 < n00kie> not now :) 05:46 < Mike1> nah, not yet 05:46 < Mike1> i am talking to my friend n00kie 05:48 < n00kie> yes, thats importender than sleeping 05:48 < Mike1> lol 05:48 < Mike1> also i am debuggin rock generic :) 05:49 < Mike1> n00kie: you see: 05:49 < Mike1> == 15:46:36 =[3]=> Building base/dietlibc [0.22 1.7-snapshot]. 05:49 < Mike1> == 21:32:14 =[5]=> Building x11/imagemagick [5.5.6 1.7-snapshot]. 05:49 < Mike1> == 17:01:16 =[5]=> Building base/at [3.1.7 1.7-snapshot]. 05:50 < Mike1> *g 05:50 < Mike1> Finishing build. 05:50 < Mike1> -> Creating package database ... 05:50 < Mike1> -> Creating isofs.txt file .. 05:50 < Mike1> root@mike:/build/miguel/rock-src-1.7# 05:50 < Mike1> :) 05:53 < n00kie> ehehe :) 05:53 < n00kie> I#d build my own Rock 2days before you :) 05:53 < n00kie> and it works :) 05:53 < Mike1> thats good 05:54 < Mike1> n00kie: my builds are for debugging and testing only :) 05:54 < n00kie> ah :) 05:54 < n00kie> alright, I'll be back in a few minutes :) 05:54 < n00kie> taking a shower 05:54 < n00kie> brb 05:54 < Mike1> root@mike:/build/miguel/rock-src-1.7# ./scripts/Create-ErrList 05:54 < Mike1> Error logs from system-1.7-snapshot-x86-k6-3-minimal-expert: 05:54 < Mike1> 245 builds total, 245 completed fine, 0 with errors. 05:54 < Mike1> enjoy :) 06:01 < n00kie> re :) 06:01 < Mike1> what kind of a shower was that? 06:01 < Mike1> did the water actually touched something more than ur hands and face? 06:01 < Mike1> *g 06:01 < n00kie> [06:01:10][root@n0nsense][/usr/src/rock-src]> ./scripts/Create-ErrList 06:01 < n00kie> Error logs from default-1.7-snapshot-x86-athlon-xp-bootdisk: 06:01 < n00kie> 151 builds total, 151 completed fine, 0 with errors. 06:01 < n00kie> [06:01:19][root@n0nsense][/usr/src/rock-src]> 06:01 < n00kie> a god :) 06:01 < n00kie> good 06:02 < Mike1> mm.. 06:02 < Mike1> what target is it? installdisks? 06:02 < n00kie> yep 06:02 < Mike1> i got it perfect too 06:02 < n00kie> i know :) 06:02 < Mike1> the target i pasted was 'minimal' target 06:03 < n00kie> aem 06:03 < n00kie> wait 06:03 < n00kie> If I don't have this traffic flat 06:03 < n00kie> I would build more :) 06:03 < n00kie> Did you created generic -required? 06:04 < Mike1> huh? 06:05 < n00kie> what is minimal target? 06:06 < Mike1> is a new target i am working on 06:06 < n00kie> Ah :) 06:06 < Mike1> its a minimalistic target 06:06 < n00kie> I must try 06:06 < n00kie> is it with X ? 06:06 < Mike1> without X 06:07 < n00kie> okay 06:07 < Mike1> it onlyt has a very minimun system that you can use to build 06:07 < n00kie> ah 06:07 < n00kie> cool :) 06:07 < Mike1> in case ur hd is too small 06:07 < Mike1> :) 06:07 < n00kie> i have 120Gigs :) 06:07 < Mike1> will share an iso with you tomorrow 06:07 < n00kie> okay, thank you ! :-)) 06:07 < Mike1> so hd space is not a problem for ya :) 06:07 < n00kie> yeah, but I could try :) 06:08 < n00kie> And I use 9.5gn 06:08 < n00kie> gb 06:08 < n00kie> lol 06:08 < Mike1> :) 06:08 < Mike1> ok n00kie, i am really not feeling good 06:09 < n00kie> why? 06:09 < Mike1> i just stayed awake till now cause i wanted to give that iso to a friend (rolla) 06:09 < Mike1> i have been throwing up all night 06:09 < Mike1> and feel very weak 06:09 < Mike1> so i am going home now 06:09 < Mike1> n00kie: Buenas noches mi amigo. 06:10 < n00kie> alright 06:10 < Mike1> in case you didn't understand: Gute nacht mein freund. 06:10 < n00kie> ah 06:10 < n00kie> el adios Mike1 :) 06:10 < n00kie> Have a nice day and, "goo 06:10 < n00kie> good night 06:10 < Mike1> :) 06:10 < Mike1> n8 all. 06:10 * Mike1 gone to bed. 06:11 < Mike1> yeah! coreutils patch worked :) 06:11 < Mike1> byw 06:11 < Mike1> bye* 06:11 < lowks> who writes packages for rocklinux ? 06:12 < lowks> do users submit them or what ? 06:20 * n00kie reboot 06:34 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M273P028.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 07:20 < blindcoder> moin 08:09 -!- brainache [~brainache@pD9EBF024.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:34 -!- Caspar__ [~steven261@M088P018.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08:55 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD9E4FB34.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:55 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958F2DC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: blindcod1r!blindcoder@pD9E4FB34.dip.t-dialin.net))) 08:55 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 09:07 < ringo78> moin 09:18 < blindcoder> moin moin 09:25 < _NULL_> moin 09:38 < esden> morgen 09:39 < blindcoder> moin esdi 09:40 < _NULL_> hi esden 09:42 -!- Netsplit asimov.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: lowks 09:42 -!- Netsplit over, joins: lowks 09:44 * blindcoder now getting the Megatokyo OST 09:46 -!- JTBurn [~jtburn@pD9E7E850.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:07 < JTBurn> good morning :) 10:08 -!- SMP__ is now known as SMP 10:09 < esden> cu everyone -> uni 10:10 < netrunner> esden: you're to late! 10:13 < blindcoder> netrunner: aren't you used to that behaviour from him? :D 10:15 < _NULL_> blindcoder: eh, you're evil :p 10:16 < blindcoder> _NULL_: no, just honest :D 10:16 < _NULL_> hehe ;) ok... 10:54 -!- JTBurn [~jtburn@pD9E7E850.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 11:32 -!- lowks_ [~lowks@219.93.24.31] has joined #rocklinux 11:49 -!- lowks [~lowks@219.93.24.31] has quit (Connection timed out) 12:00 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:21 < netrunner> *g* glibc takes 9h to compile, while dietibc is done in 3 mins 12:23 < _NULL_> netrunner: on which machine? 12:24 < netrunner> null: p3-500, 256MB ram. maybe the nfs mountet rock-src is the bottleneck? 12:25 < _NULL_> dunno... sorry. 12:25 < netrunner> might be, the nic-led is flashing like hell ;) 12:26 < _NULL_> but in LFS there is the SBU: 14.71... --> takes loooong 12:28 < blindcoder> SBU? did they change that? 12:28 < blindcoder> I remember it being BSU 12:29 < _NULL_> blindcoder: SBUs are Static Bash Units << "copy and paste of lfs-book" 12:30 < blindcoder> okay, then they changed it 12:30 < blindcoder> last time I read it it was called "Bash Standard Units" 12:30 < _NULL_> ok ;) 12:31 < _NULL_> when did you have a look last time, into the lfs-book? 12:32 < blindcoder> erm... okay, I rest my case 12:33 < _NULL_> :p 12:35 -!- rxr [~rxr@port-212-202-172-137.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:35 < rxr> re 12:36 < _NULL_> wb rxr 12:37 * blindcoder slurping some Jolt to wake up 12:53 * rxr enjoys the new awstat web statistic ;) 13:01 < daja77> moin 13:01 < rxr> moin daja77 13:01 < daja77> hi rxr 13:03 < daja77> hmm clug meeting at 19.00, that means 5.5h to work on realtime rock release 13:04 < daja77> damn my box at home hung up :( 13:06 < rxr> daja77: that is bad 13:06 < rxr> I now have an preemtive 2.5.69 runnin 13:06 < daja77> ACK 13:06 < blindcoder> daja77: no reconnect script? 13:06 < daja77> blindcoder: not yet 13:06 < rxr> the 2.5.68 did not crash and showed no other odd behaviour ... 13:06 < daja77> only a keep alive ping ;) 13:06 < blindcoder> daja77: what do you use? ISDN? DSL? 13:06 < daja77> isdn 13:06 < blindcoder> okay... otherwise I could have given you mine... 13:07 < daja77> hmm I thought about writing script whic establishes connection when I call via mobile 13:09 < daja77> subversion site not responding >_< 13:10 < daja77> rene could you send me the release tarball for subversion? 13:16 -!- dichter [dichter@p5080F819.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:16 < _NULL_> hi dichter 13:16 < daja77> lol 13:16 < dichter> hi null 13:16 < daja77> hi dichter 13:16 < daja77> ah subversion responding again 13:17 < dichter> hi daja 13:17 < dichter> hi everyone 13:18 < dichter> wich languege is apropriate here? 13:18 < dichter> language 13:18 < daja77> EN 13:18 < dichter> thx 13:19 < dichter> i have a queation regarding installing rocklinux 1.6.0-pre4.i686 13:19 < daja77> ahme dichter please read the topic 13:19 < daja77> ahem I mean 13:19 < dichter> i have an CD made from ISO, but it does not boot 13:20 < dichter> ok, where can i get the 2.0 image ? 13:20 < dichter> i have no system where i can compile 13:25 < daja77> https://nexus.tfh-berlin.de/~drock/latest/2.0.0-beta/ 13:27 < rxr> we should point people to download page - the nexus server already transfered > 120 GB in the last week - then poeple chose a mirror from the list it might do some traffic balancing ... ;-) 13:27 < daja77> ok sorry 13:28 < dichter> :-) 13:28 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.org/projects/drock/binary.html 13:28 < rxr> daja77: no problem ;-) I just wonder why nexus has most of the traffic - when my master server has nearly none ... ;-) 13:28 < daja77> rxr: the subversion site is still fscked up somehow, could you send me the subversion tarball, that I can checkout your tree here? 13:29 < rxr> daja77: which page is broken ? 13:29 < daja77> download 13:29 < rxr> daja77: url ? 13:29 < daja77> https://subversion.tigris.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList?folderID=260 13:30 < rxr> https://subversion.tigris.org/files/documents/15/4 13:30 < rxr> 016/ 13:31 < rxr> of course without the \n ... 13:32 < daja77> Error! 13:32 < daja77> No matches to your request were found. 13:33 < daja77> this is annoying 13:34 < rxr> https://schillernet.dyndns.org/subversion-0.22.0.tar.bz2 13:34 < daja77> thx very much 13:35 < dichter> thanks, i will check back if i have the same error aocuring again... 13:35 < dichter> cu 13:35 < rxr> dichter: you try the -beta ? 13:35 < dichter> i will... 13:35 < rxr> nice 13:35 < rxr> have fun 13:35 < dichter> i had no luck with 1.6.0.pre3 and pre4 13:36 < rxr> dichter: yes - 1.6.x got out of scope 13:36 < rxr> and even destablized :-( 13:36 < dichter> :-( 13:36 < rxr> 2.0 is far more stable and advanced ... 13:36 < rxr> this is why 1.6 is obsolete now. 13:36 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.org/projects/drock/getting.html 13:37 < dichter> i hope it will boot :-) 13:37 < rxr> ^- new menu entries ho do you like those ? 13:37 < rxr> dichter: it should ;-) 13:37 < dichter> cu guys/gals 13:37 < rxr> cu dichter 13:37 -!- dichter [dichter@p5080F819.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("semper idem!") 13:37 < daja77> cu dichter have fun 13:37 < daja77> damn 13:38 < daja77> btw my home isn't hung up, I just ran into a routing trap at work 13:39 < daja77> rxr: what about disabling the 1.6 download links? 13:41 < rxr> daja77: the main problem is that there are no 1.7 / 2.0 tarballs on the rocklinux page 13:41 < rxr> I sent them to cliff - but he seems ot be in vacation these days ... 13:42 < daja77> *hmpf* 13:47 < daja77> rxr: maybe he enjoys austria's linux weeks *g* 13:58 < rxr> yeah ,) 14:00 < daja77> O_o why is the svn client lib not build 14:10 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M261P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 14:10 < _NULL_> hi n00kie 14:11 < daja77> hehe 14:11 < daja77> hi n00kie 14:12 < daja77> anyone knows a long double datatype (C under linux) ?? 14:15 < _NULL_> or a not so nice error: 14:15 < _NULL_> checking size of long double... configure: error: cannot compute sizeof (long double), 77 14:15 < _NULL_> with glibc-2.3.2 14:15 < _NULL_> (and gcc-3.2.3) 14:45 -!- Lorini_ [~andrea@pD9506BFB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #RockLinux 14:46 < daja77> huhu Lorini_ 14:54 -!- Lorini [~andrea@p3EE219CC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15:13 < rxr> next cleanup iteration of the homepage finished:# 15:13 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.org/projects/drock/ 15:14 < daja77> rxr: subversion 0.22 doesn't compile completely now trying 0.21 again 15:14 < rxr> daja77: hm - compiles fine here :-( 15:14 < rolla> re 15:15 < rolla> == 07:13:06 =[5]=> Building rene/kopete [0.6.1s 1.7-snapshot]. 15:15 < daja77> rxr: it forgot to compile svn client lib 15:28 < rolla> where do these random comments come from ? 15:28 < daja77> huh? 15:29 < rolla> on the stats page 15:29 < daja77> ahem from the logs 15:30 < daja77> and have yu got a higher rank now? *gg* 15:30 -!- martin [~martin@performer.tfh-berlin.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:30 < martin> hi all 15:30 < daja77> hi martin 15:31 < rolla> you allways did 15:31 < martin> hi daja77 15:31 < daja77> hehe no 15:31 < rolla> == 08:21:54 =[5]=> Building rene/kdevelop [3.0a4a 1.7-snapshot]. 15:32 < rolla> ever since I knew of the stats you have been in the top 10 15:32 < rolla> I have allways been 20 15:32 < rolla> :P 15:32 < daja77> rolla: I am at rank 10 since 3 days or so 15:32 < rolla> plus some of us work and have families 15:33 < daja77> hehe I work too 15:33 < rolla> yeah at a uni not same 15:34 < daja77> ;) 15:34 < _NULL_> https://the-null.de.vu/misc/sick-stuff/fachinformatiker/bestofZP.txt << something to laugh at 15:35 < rolla> yeah if I read german ;) 15:35 < _NULL_> rolla: sorry... 15:35 < blindcoder> 9b 15:36 < blindcoder> 33d 15:36 < daja77> *loool* 15:36 < blindcoder> 34b 15:36 < blindcoder> 34 was also in my final test :) 15:36 < blindcoder> copy'n'pasted :) 15:36 < _NULL_> blindcoder: ??? 15:37 < blindcoder> _NULL_: the answers 15:37 < blindcoder> 9 - b 15:37 < blindcoder> 33 - d 15:37 < blindcoder> 34 - b 15:37 < blindcoder> and I had question 34 in my Finals :) 15:37 < _NULL_> omg 15:37 < blindcoder> with the exact same phrasing of question AND answers 15:38 < blindcoder> but I must say that 9 _is_ a bit hard 15:38 < blindcoder> because if someone only knows x86 then everything doesn't make sense :) 15:38 < daja77> and 34 is wrong 15:38 < blindcoder> ? 15:38 < blindcoder> 34 b 15:39 < daja77> a trojan doesn't necessarily hides in src could be in binary as well 15:39 < blindcoder> okay, a trojan horse is not necessarily a virus 15:39 < rolla> :) 15:39 < blindcoder> daja77: you're reading a test domnated by Windows-Users 15:40 < rolla> that is allways painful 15:40 < blindcoder> so you have to switch down your IQ to slightly above room temperature 15:40 < blindcoder> and btw: ASM is also a kind of source 15:40 < rolla> :) 15:40 < daja77> hehe I don't wanna 15:41 < _NULL_> 33 - d, and 34 - b 15:41 < _NULL_> (ihk says) 15:41 < blindcoder> _NULL_: yes 15:41 < daja77> rxr: is it possible to use svn with a proxy 15:41 < blindcoder> and 9b 15:41 < martin> cul 15:42 -!- martin [~martin@performer.tfh-berlin.de] has left #rocklinux ("Client exiting") 15:42 < _NULL_> it's ill, isn't it? 15:42 < blindcoder> sick 15:42 < daja77> huh, what have we done to him 15:42 < blindcoder> not ill, you say sick in these cases 15:42 < daja77> it is sick, ack 15:42 < blindcoder> _NULL_: but still 15:43 < blindcoder> _NULL_: some answers make about as much sense as the test for a driver's license 15:43 < _NULL_> blindcoder: i have no driver's license... (and not did a test or stuff) 15:43 < blindcoder> while #33 has about 2 possible answers 15:44 < blindcoder> _NULL_: from a DL-Test: Q: How do you minimize gas-usage? 15:44 < blindcoder> a) Opening the window 15:44 < blindcoder> b) driving with >4000 RPMs 15:44 < blindcoder> c) switching gears early 15:45 < _NULL_> *cough* *cough* 15:45 < daja77> a) I guess *gg* 15:45 < _NULL_> i guess e) "zerreiss den test" 15:46 < blindcoder> _NULL_: hehe... that's what I almost did at "Bundeswehr" 15:46 < blindcoder> the stupid computer showed me the same questions three times in a row 15:46 < blindcoder> so I thought about punching it :P 15:46 < daja77> what a luck that I never had to go to the army 15:47 < _NULL_> blindcoder: *lol* 15:48 < blindcoder> daja77: me neither :D 15:49 < blindcoder> just took the test... and got dismissed 15:49 < daja77> hehe 15:50 < rolla> you guys/gal and your tests :) 15:50 * daja77 never had these tests 15:51 < blindcoder> daja77: why not? 15:52 < daja77> I did not qualify for bundeswehr test *g* 15:52 < daja77> + I am studying 15:55 < blindcoder> i see 15:56 < blindcoder> I was dismissed for "Akne" (thouh it's hardly there :P) 15:56 < daja77> lol 15:57 * daja77 was dismissed cos the army has no armored wheelchairs *gg* 15:59 * daja77 screams a bit 16:01 < rolla> ???? 16:01 < daja77> I can't do svn checkout here *damn it* 16:02 < rolla> warum? 16:02 < daja77> cos svn can't use proxy and doesn't compile on the box which doesn't need proxy 16:04 < _NULL_> <-- going home 16:04 < _NULL_> bye 16:05 < blindcoder> what about transconnect?L 16:05 < rolla> daja77: that sucks 16:05 < daja77> blindcoder: ?? 16:05 < daja77> rolla: ACK 16:09 < daja77> btw autoconf sucks like hell 16:11 < blindcoder> daja77: transconnects uses the HTTP CONNECT to make direct connections through proxies 16:11 < blindcoder> transconnect 16:11 < blindcoder> it's a .so to be used with LD_PRELOAD 16:16 < daja77> thx 16:17 < daja77> hmm sf is so lame... 16:18 < daja77> 8kb of 18 kb at 0.2kb/s wtf 16:20 < rxr> Committed revision 164. 16:21 < daja77> d'oh 16:22 < daja77> rxr: is there proxy support in svn? 16:28 < daja77> blindcoder: ? this doesn't work 16:29 < blindcoder> daja77: well... if your proxy-admin is paranoid, then maybe it won't 16:32 < daja77> Connection Refused: Forbidden 16:32 < daja77> o 16:33 < rxr> daja77: it should work with proxies - read the FAQ of svn 16:34 < rxr> cu later 16:34 < daja77> *hmpf+ why can't they write it into the man page 16:34 < daja77> cu rxr 16:34 < daja77> *gna* tigris.org down again 16:35 * daja77 thinks of commiting suicide today 16:35 < blindcoder> daja77: suicide without me? :P 16:35 -!- fronti [kliche@zebra.fh-weingarten.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:36 < fronti> hellp 16:36 < daja77> blindcoder: you are invited to join, this friday sucks 16:36 * daja77 helps fronti to stand up 16:37 < fronti> s/p/o/ 16:37 < fronti> ;) 16:38 < daja77> hi fronti ;) 16:38 < blindcoder> daja77: maybe because it's a friday 16:38 < blindcoder> fridays seem to have this tendency for suckage 16:39 < daja77> yeah maybe, hey I managed to get things right yesterday but not today :( 16:39 < fronti> but help is needet too.. i'n trying to compile the latest rock snapshot on an gentoo rc4 system.. in stage 0 the build of glibc sems to hang.. is this a known problem? 16:40 < daja77> latest rock snapshot, which one? 16:40 < fronti> rock-src-1.7-200305071030 16:40 < daja77> O_o new to me 16:41 < daja77> well the best thing will be to install subversion and check out 2.0.0-beta2 tree as described in topic 16:43 < blindcoder> daja77: when home I'll hide in my room watching Anime the rest of the day 16:44 < blindcoder> daja77: that's the best way of beating a Friday IMO :P 16:44 * daja77 doesn't watch anime 16:45 < fronti> daja77: i can try this, but i don't belive on this.. the error looks like an error in the combination rocklinux build / gentoo base system.. (building new rock versions on my rock servers works fine ) 16:45 < daja77> sure but what's the problem with gentoo? 16:46 < daja77> *hmpf* /me biting the carpet *aaaargh* 16:47 < blindcoder> daja77: ? 16:47 < daja77> whatever I try nothing works 16:48 < blindcoder> well, it's a friday after all :) 16:48 < blindcoder> ah 16:48 < blindcoder> 10 mins until go-home-time :) 16:49 < daja77> you lucky bastard >_< 16:50 < blindcoder> MWAHAHAHA 16:52 < fronti> hmm, it seems that the build of glibc goes into an endless loop.. very strange 16:54 * blindcoder going home 16:54 < blindcoder> baba 16:56 < daja77> bye blindcoder 16:58 < rolla> crazy 16:58 < daja77> rolla: ?? 16:58 < rolla> damn MSSQL crap 16:59 < daja77> rolla: crappy friday too? 17:02 < rolla> yeah 17:03 < daja77> rolla: I'd need a weapon to shoot the network admins down 17:03 < rolla> why? 17:03 < daja77> because their net config prevents me from doin my work 17:04 < rolla> :) 17:04 < rolla> got to love it 17:05 < fronti> so, feierabend.. 17:05 < daja77> hahaha the stupid nt proxy doesn't support the svn commands... 17:05 < daja77> fronti: bye and have fun 17:06 < rolla> there is yor problem NT proxy bad 17:06 < daja77> no no no, this is _not_ my NT proxy 17:22 < daja77> rolla: have seen "Goodbye Lenin" already? 17:24 < rolla> nein 17:24 < daja77> do they show it in the usa? 17:26 < rolla> yeah right 17:27 < daja77> good ;) 17:28 < rolla> ? 17:28 < rolla> daja77: that is sarcasm 17:28 < daja77> why 17:28 < rolla> I would have to work very hard to find it 17:28 < rolla> I have to use edonkey to download german bootleg 17:29 < daja77> sorry then I got you wrong, I thought you said that they show it 17:29 < rolla> "yeah right" is a phrase of sarcasm here sorry 17:29 * rolla switchs on his american pharses 17:30 < rolla> yeah right == as if 17:30 < daja77> *g* ;) 17:32 < daja77> rolla: hmm it will be even harder to find one with subtitles 17:32 < rolla> yup 17:32 < rolla> that is why I just need to find english transcripts and watch and read at the same time 17:32 < rolla> like reading manga 17:32 < daja77> hmm 17:33 < rolla> ? 17:34 < daja77> it was another form of ack 17:38 < rolla> oh 17:38 < daja77> ;) 17:39 < rolla> == 10:38:48 =[5]=> Building rene/tetex [2.0.2 1.7-snapshot]. 17:39 < daja77> lol 17:39 < rolla> was? 17:40 < daja77> it is the package which rene claims to have fixed finally, had no time to test it right now 17:40 < rolla> oh 17:42 < daja77> it might be still broken in your checkout 17:42 < rolla> I 17:42 < rolla> am surew 17:42 < daja77> ;) 17:43 < daja77> I can't believe it, I am alone with you, here 17:45 < daja77> O_o heavy rain started... 17:59 < n00kie> Howdy daja77 :) 18:00 < daja77> hi n00kie 18:00 < daja77> how was your friday? 18:01 < n00kie> bda 18:01 < n00kie> bad 18:01 < n00kie> I had headache 18:01 < n00kie> but no it ends :) 18:03 < daja77> hehe join our club 18:05 < rolla> what club is that? 18:06 < rolla> == 11:09:19 =[5]=> Building praenti/libmikmod [3.1.10 1.7-snapshot]. 18:06 < rolla> cool all my packages are failing :) 18:06 < rolla> this is going to be one great ISO 18:07 < daja77> rolla: the club of friday haters 18:07 < daja77> rolla: your packages? 18:07 < rolla> yeah stage 5 bunch of them are dieing 18:08 < rolla> you want to see? 18:08 < rxr> re 18:08 < rolla> -> Preparing build in src.tdb.1052496590.10717.158643777 18:08 < rolla> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/5-tdb.out 18:08 < rolla> !> Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. 18:08 < rolla> !> This is free software; see the source for copying condit .. 18:08 < rolla> !> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A .. 18:08 < rolla> !> [ writing debug log to /R.work/src.tdb.1052496590.10717. .. 18:08 < rolla> !> File not found: download/clifford/tdb/tdb-1.0.6.tar.bz2 18:08 < rolla> !> Did you run ./scripts/Download for this package? 18:08 < rolla> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-tdb.out -> 5-tdb.err 18:08 < rolla> == 05/09/03 11:10:06 =[5]=> Aborted building package tdb. 18:08 < rolla> Creating binary package file for tdb. 18:08 < rolla> -> Building build/.../pkgs/tdb.tar.bz2 18:08 < rolla> -> Building build/.../pkgs/tdb.gem 18:08 < rxr> rolla: did you downloaded the files required for the build ? 18:08 < rolla> -> Removing temporary tar.bz2. 18:08 < rolla> == 11:10:09 =[5]=> Building clifford/ddclient [3.6.2 1.7-snapshot]. 18:08 < rolla> -> Reading package configuration from package directory. 18:08 < rolla> -> Preparing build in src.ddclient.1052496607.13567.1848762819 18:08 < rolla> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/5-ddclient.out 18:09 < rolla> !> Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. 18:09 < rolla> !> This is free software; see the source for copying condit .. 18:09 < rolla> !> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A .. 18:09 < rolla> !> [ writing debug log to /R.work/src.ddclient.1052496607.1 .. 18:09 < rolla> !> File not found: download/clifford/ddclient/ddclient-3.6. .. 18:09 < rolla> !> Did you run ./scripts/Download for this package? 18:09 < rolla> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-ddclient.out -> 5-ddclient.err 18:09 < rolla> == 05/09/03 11:10:23 =[5]=> Aborted building package ddclient. 18:09 < rxr> rolla: did you downloaded the files required for the build ? 18:09 < rxr> rolla: did you downloaded the files required for the build ? 18:09 < rxr> rolla: did you downloaded the files required for the build ? 18:09 < rxr> rolla: did you downloaded the files required for the build ? 18:09 < rxr> rolla: did you downloaded the files required for the build ? 18:09 < rolla> Creating binary package file for ddclient. 18:09 < rxr> rolla: did you downloaded the files required for the build ? 18:09 < rolla> -> Building build/.../pkgs/ddclient.tar.bz2 18:09 < rxr> rolla: did you downloaded the files required for the build ? 18:09 < rxr> rolla: did you downloaded the files required for the build ? 18:09 < rolla> -> Building build/.../pkgs/ddclient.gem 18:09 < rxr> rolla: did you downloaded the files required for the build ? 18:09 < rolla> -> Removing temporary tar.bz2. 18:09 < rxr> rolla: hello !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 18:09 < rolla> == 11:10:25 =[5]=> Building clifford/sweep [0.5.13 1.7-snapshot]. 18:09 < rolla> -> Preparing build in src.sweep.1052496623.16415.458502387 18:09 < rolla> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/5-sweep.out 18:09 < rolla> !> ******************************************************** .. 18:09 < rolla> !> configure: error: 18:09 < rolla> !> *** 18:09 < rolla> !> *** After fixing the above problems, you must run ./conf .. 18:09 < rolla> !> *** 18:09 < rolla> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-sweep.out -> 5-sweep.err 18:09 < rolla> == 05/09/03 11:11:03 =[5]=> Aborted building package sweep. 18:10 < rolla> -> Preparing build in src.tdb.1052496590.10717.158643777 18:10 < rolla> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/5-tdb.out 18:10 < daja77> rolla: PLEASE STOP THAT 18:10 < rolla> !> Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. 18:10 < rolla> !> This is free software; see the source for copying condit .. 18:10 < rolla> !> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A .. 18:10 < rolla> !> [ writing debug log to /R.work/src.tdb.1052496590.10717. .. 18:10 < rolla> !> File not found: download/clifford/tdb/tdb-1.0.6.tar.bz2 18:10 < rolla> !> Did you run ./scripts/Download for this package? 18:10 < rolla> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-tdb.out -> 5-tdb.err 18:10 < rolla> == 05/09/03 11:10:06 =[5]=> Aborted building package tdb. 18:10 < rxr> YES PLEASE !!! 18:10 < rolla> Creating binary package file for tdb. 18:10 < rolla> -> Building build/.../pkgs/tdb.tar.bz2 18:10 < rolla> -> Building build/.../pkgs/tdb.gem 18:10 < rolla> -> Removing temporary tar.bz2. 18:10 < rolla> == 11:10:09 =[5]=> Building clifford/ddclient [3.6.2 1.7-snapshot]. 18:10 < rolla> -> Reading package configuration from package directory. 18:10 < rolla> -> Preparing build in src.ddclient.1052496607.13567.1848762819 18:10 < rolla> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/5-ddclient.out 18:10 < rolla> !> Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. 18:10 < daja77> *AAAARGH* 18:10 < rolla> !> This is free software; see the source for copying condit .. 18:10 < rolla> !> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A .. 18:11 < rolla> !> [ writing debug log to /R.work/src.ddclient.1052496607.1 .. 18:11 < rolla> !> File not found: download/clifford/ddclient/ddclient-3.6. .. 18:11 < rolla> !> Did you run ./scripts/Download for this package? 18:11 < rolla> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-ddclient.out -> 5-ddclient.err 18:11 < rolla> == 05/09/03 11:10:23 =[5]=> Aborted building package ddclient. 18:11 < rolla> Creating binary package file for ddclient. 18:11 < rolla> -> Building build/.../pkgs/ddclient.tar.bz2 18:11 < rolla> -> Building build/.../pkgs/ddclient.gem 18:11 < rolla> -> Removing temporary tar.bz2. 18:11 < rolla> == 11:10:25 =[5]=> Building clifford/sweep [0.5.13 1.7-snapshot]. 18:11 < rolla> -> Preparing build in src.sweep.1052496623.16415.458502387 18:11 < rolla> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/5-sweep.out 18:11 < rxr> hehe rolla is /ignore'd now 18:11 < rolla> !> ******************************************************** .. 18:11 < rolla> !> configure: error: 18:11 < rolla> !> *** 18:11 < rxr> silence in the channel ;-) 18:11 < rolla> !> *** After fixing the above problems, you must run ./conf .. 18:11 < rolla> !> *** 18:11 < rolla> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-sweep.out -> 5-sweep.err 18:11 < rolla> == 05/09/03 11:11:03 =[5]=> Aborted building package sweep. 18:11 < rolla> :) 18:11 < rolla> :) 18:11 < rolla> yup 18:12 < rolla> but these are the packages that exist nowhere 18:12 < rolla> :) 18:12 -!- rolla [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit ("leaving") 18:12 < daja77> wow they have kicked him 18:12 -!- maisenhe [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:12 -!- maisenhe is now known as rolla 18:12 < rolla> re 18:13 < daja77> btw I didn't say yes 18:13 < rolla> ? 18:13 < daja77> if I wanted to see all this crap 18:13 < daja77> wb rxr 18:13 < rolla> :) 18:14 < daja77> rxr: I had no chance to use a proxy (cos this is a stupid NT proxy which doesn't understand svn commands >_<) 18:14 < daja77> rolla: ok this were two packages right? 18:15 < rolla> 6 18:16 < rolla> daja77: I thought you would like to see it 18:16 < rolla> rxr you still here ? 18:16 < rolla> == 11:17:32 =[5]=> Building rene/apache [2.0.45 1.7-snapshot]. 18:16 < rxr> daja77: AFAIK svn doesn't need special firewall funktionallity - any non-stupid one should work 18:16 < rxr> rolla: you _need_ to download the packages before the build !!! 18:17 < rxr> run ./scripts/Download -required 18:17 < rxr> and restart your everthing-fails build ... 18:19 < daja77> rolla: in query next time please 18:19 < daja77> rxr: this has nothing to do with firewall, but http commands svn is using 18:20 < rolla> rxr: I did those ones are not on the mirrors or the main server !!!! 18:22 < rxr> daja77: I meant s/firewall/proxy/ sorry (doing too much at the same time) 18:23 < rxr> ah - yes. Use none as mirror for svn builds 18:24 < rolla> == 11:17:32 =[5]=> Building rene/apache [2.0.45 1.7-snapshot]. 18:24 < rolla> -> Reading package configuration from package directory. 18:24 < rolla> -> Preparing build in src.apache.1052497050.9901.226066165 18:24 < rolla> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/5-apache.out 18:24 < rolla> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-apache.out -> 5-apache.log 18:24 < rolla> == 05/09/03 11:26:52 =[5]=> Finished building package apache. 18:24 < rolla> yeah apache built :) 18:24 < n00kie> fast 18:25 < rolla> yup 18:25 < rolla> rxr is subversion broken still in the build? 18:25 < n00kie> mhm 18:26 < daja77> it was broken here 18:26 < rolla> okay 18:26 < rolla> then it is broken in mine 18:27 < n00kie> mhmm 18:27 < n00kie> but 18:27 < n00kie> why apache 2.x ? 18:27 < n00kie> and not 1.3.x ? 18:27 < rolla> cause apache2 rocks 18:27 < rolla> no pun intended 18:27 < n00kie> no pun? 18:27 < n00kie> what does this mean? 18:28 < rolla> not to make a word play on the name rock 18:29 < daja77> this is _sick_, I checked out via svn at home and fetching the tarball via ssh to have it here 18:29 < rolla> ugh 18:29 < daja77> the only chance, I am so lucky having setup this dyndns stuff, I can't tell you 18:31 < rolla> rxr I have restarted download 18:36 * daja77 will go to the clug meeting cu 18:37 < n00kie> wie ./scripts/Update-Src I'll download the latest snapshot? 18:38 < rxr> n00kie: 2.0 is current apache stable branch. aside from cleanups and the usual features you can read about in magazines it is required for subversion .. 18:38 < n00kie> alright 18:38 < rxr> rolla: subversion builds fine the recent svn 18:39 < n00kie> rxr: Thought about to put SIM into src tree? 18:39 < daja77> maybe the tarball is broken 18:39 < rolla> okay 18:41 < daja77> bye 18:41 < n00kie> have fun daja77! 18:41 < rolla> jbye daja77 18:41 < daja77> thank you 18:43 < rxr> n00kie: SIM what ? 18:43 < rolla> wow lots of missing packages 18:44 < n00kie> rxr: ICQ Client based on QT 18:44 < n00kie> https://sim-icq.sourceforge.net 18:45 < rxr> n00kie: I just added kopete ... - if you need s.th. other package it into your own repository ... 18:45 < rxr> Subject: GCC 3.3: 2nd prerelease 18:45 < n00kie> um 18:45 < n00kie> i will try kopete 18:46 < n00kie> Is kopete broken ? 18:46 < rxr> it builds here 18:46 < rxr> here on my box using a desktop build only 25 packages are broken ... 18:46 < rolla> what are they ? 18:47 < n00kie> rxr: I'm trying to compile it.. 18:54 < rxr> n00kie: you need kde for it ... 18:55 < n00kie> yes 18:55 < n00kie> == 18:46:41 =[9]=> Building rene/kopete [0.6.1s 1.7-snapshot]. 18:55 < n00kie> In general, I don't like the k desktop environment 18:55 < n00kie> but for some programs, it's not bad 19:01 < rxr> I tagged beta2 in subversion 19:01 < rxr> https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-tags/ 19:02 < n00kie> umhm 19:03 < n00kie> Kopete needs long to get compiled 19:04 < _NULL_> re 19:04 < rxr> hi _NULL_ 19:04 < _NULL_> hi rxr. how are you? 19:11 < n00kie> wb _NULL_ 19:12 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M261P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 19:13 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M261P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 19:19 < rxr> _NULL_: great - and you ? 19:20 < _NULL_> rxr: alive. thx. why great? 19:26 < rxr> _NULL_: all is just comming along well ... ;-) 19:30 < _NULL_> hehe ;) 19:33 < rxr> -beta2 released 19:33 < rxr> freshmeat announcement, too 19:37 < rolla> == 12:32:41 =[5]=> Building clifford/hercules [2.17.1 1.7-snapshot]. 19:39 < rolla> gnome14/rep-gtk01 19:39 < rolla> is that still broken or do I just have an old cvs ? 19:46 < rolla> anyone alive out there? 19:48 -!- Mike1-home [~mike@mail.costarica.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:48 < rolla> re Mike1-home 19:48 < Mike1-home> moin all 19:48 < Mike1-home> rolla did u get my mail? 19:48 < rolla> yup 19:48 < rolla> I am most happy about it 19:48 * Mike1-home is sick so he is at home today 19:48 < rolla> I will test it this weekend 19:49 < rolla> my build is moving along 19:49 < Mike1-home> rolla great to hear that 19:49 < rolla> yup 19:49 < rolla> I am now 19 on the stats list :) 19:49 < Mike1-home> rolla u can use that Joel edition iso to instal 1.7 on a box and use it to build a more complete system 19:49 < rolla> :) 19:49 < Mike1-home> rolla i am #3 :P 19:49 < rolla> sweet 19:49 < rolla> Mike1-home: I shall never pass you 19:49 < rolla> I don't have the time too 19:50 < rolla> I do not live and breath rock like you :) 19:50 < Mike1-home> rolla the cool thing is that the joel iso is optimized for specifically that box 19:50 < rolla> sweet 19:50 < rolla> Mike1-home: I am still having packages break :( 19:50 < Mike1-home> rolla well i have way many more stuff to do besides rock, and that includes normal work 19:51 < rolla> true 19:51 < Mike1-home> rolla maybe u wanna email me a list of those packages so i can try to fix them tomorrow when i am back to the office, well that is if i feel better 19:51 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M261P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:51 < _NULL_> hi Mike1-home 19:51 < rolla> Mike1-home: I shall once it is done 19:51 < Mike1-home> rolla btw i sent a patch to fix coreutils to the mailing list a few minutes ago, feel free to apply it to your tree 19:53 < Mike1-home> rxr awake? 19:53 < rolla> I sweet 19:54 < Mike1-home> rolla :) 19:54 < Mike1-home> ping daja77 19:54 < rolla> Mike1-home: how does one take over a package in rock? 19:54 < rolla> Mike1-home: daja77 is off at a meeting 19:55 < Mike1-home> rolla ok u just put coreutils.diff in rock-src-1.7 and 'patch -Nfp1 < coreutils.diff' 19:55 < Mike1-home> rolla easy as that :) 19:55 < rolla> cool 20:00 < rxr> hi Mike1-home 20:00 < Mike1-home> rxr hi :) 20:00 < Mike1-home> rxr i sent the coreutils package as i promissed. 20:00 < rolla> == 13:01:34 =[5]=> Building gnome14/gdk-pixbuf10 [0.18.0 1.7-snapshot]. 20:01 < rolla> :) 20:01 < rolla> a building I go 20:01 < Mike1-home> rolla nice 20:01 < rolla> yup 20:01 * Mike1-home is glad that his builds are running fine, but wishes to have srcs here to run a build on his home workstation 20:02 < rxr> Mike1-home: no the patch has not arrived here ... 20:02 < Mike1-home> rxr i sent it to the rlml/// 20:02 < Mike1-home> s/// ... 20:03 < rxr> ah there it is 20:03 < Mike1-home> rxr :) 20:03 < Mike1-home> rxr will fix my gnuash and evolution packages as soon as i am better and can go back to the office. 20:04 < Mike1-home> rxr as i don't have any packages or rock srcs at here :( 20:09 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M333P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 20:09 < Mike1-home> hola n00kie 20:10 < Mike1-home> _msg rolla i am not feeling very well so talk to u later, i am going to bed 20:10 < Mike1-home> arrg 20:10 < Mike1-home> cu all 20:10 -!- Mike1-home [~mike@mail.costarica.net] has quit ("[BX] We are BitchX of Borg. You will be assimilated. Using mIRC is futile.") 20:14 -!- wolle [~wolle@rz-du-006.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:30 -!- Caspar__ [~steven261@M105P026.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 20:40 -!- michel [~michel@diderot-2-81-57-83-190.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:40 -!- michel is now known as JoJoMe 20:40 < JoJoMe> Hi ! Is rxr online ? 20:40 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E49F3B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:41 < JoJoMe> I'm looking for the ADM_Prv.o file for setting up a 802.11 card 20:41 < JoJoMe> it is required for the adm 8211 20:41 < JoJoMe> anyone here ? 20:41 < tcr> Ehm, does anyone have also problems with the mailinglist? 20:42 < tcr> I receive mails, but when sending one I get a Relay Access Denied 20:42 -!- JoJoMe [~michel@diderot-2-81-57-83-190.fbx.proxad.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 20:43 < tcr> Ah, seems to be a local problem 20:43 < rolla> tcr: 20:44 < rxr> JoJoMe: yes 20:44 < rxr> JoJoMe: what do you exactly try and need ? 20:44 -!- JoJoMe [~michel@diderot-2-81-57-83-190.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:44 < JoJoMe> oops 20:44 < JoJoMe> still no rxr here ? 20:44 < rolla> rxr is here 20:44 < rxr> "no" rxr ? hm ? 20:44 < JoJoMe> Great ! 20:45 < JoJoMe> I'm looking for the ADM_Prv file you mentioned in an IRC log 20:45 < JoJoMe> of 2003-04-01 20:45 < rxr> mom 20:45 < JoJoMe> I need that file to set an 802.11 card 20:45 < JoJoMe> (ADM chipset, found in D-link 650 card..) 20:46 < rxr> https://schillernet.dyndns.org/ 20:47 < rxr> JoJoMe: the link at the buttom 20:47 < rxr> the tarball includes all the source and the binary only flie 20:47 < rxr> file even 20:47 < JoJoMe> thanx 20:47 < rxr> JoJoMe: errr! IIRC the dlink has an TI chip 20:47 < JoJoMe> did I get it well ? Is it for 802.11 ? 20:47 < rxr> JoJoMe: no an ADMtek ... 20:47 < JoJoMe> well, actually, it may have a TI or a ADM 20:47 < JoJoMe> depends on which version 20:48 < JoJoMe> from what I understand.. 20:48 < JoJoMe> if it is A1 or L1 version 20:48 < JoJoMe> is it ? 20:48 < rxr> hm - if you are sure. I only saw TI based up to now ... 20:48 < rxr> but a simple look onto the chip will possibly help 20:48 < rolla> crap 20:48 < rxr> rolla: crap? where? 20:49 < JoJoMe> Well, the link you gave me redirects me to the guy at HP. From there, I'm lost ;-< 20:49 < rxr> JoJoMe: nope 20:49 < JoJoMe> sorry 20:49 < JoJoMe> I found it 20:49 < rxr> the link at the buttom of the page 20:49 < rxr> ah ok 20:54 < JoJoMe> I guess you're right : 8211.o: init_module: No such device 20:54 < JoJoMe> too bad ! 21:01 < JoJoMe> thanx for everything. 21:01 < JoJoMe> bye 21:01 < rxr> bye 21:01 -!- JoJoMe [~michel@diderot-2-81-57-83-190.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 21:02 -!- chaosmaster [~niko@dsl-213-023-143-063.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:03 < tcr> Hmm, dunno what the problem is... seems to be somewhat with the uni.de smtp server... 21:06 < tcr> eh, s/somewhat/something/ 21:19 < chaosmaster> anybody out there? 21:19 < tcr> Partly 21:20 < chaosmaster> is someony involved in the new page design? 21:22 < tcr> Well, initially rxr, but he gave it out of his hand, i think 21:23 < chaosmaster> he made the initial design, which was accepted by clifford for his cms, but nobody cares anymore :( 21:24 -!- ikeaboy [~trip@cashbox.kazatelna.cz] has joined #rocklinux 21:24 < tcr> Well.. I'd split the design completely off from the content 21:24 < chaosmaster> i think, this is, what was done by this cms 21:24 < tcr> And create an own preprocessing macro-like language for the content that's procedded by some sed script 21:25 < chaosmaster> oh, no! not more sed scripts and macros and this shit - i'm not a friend of this 21:26 < chaosmaster> I really hate^H^H^H^Hlike the m4 init macros :) 21:26 < tcr> Why? Nobody should ever care because it's an internal format 21:26 < tcr> Texts are added via the CMS 21:26 < tcr> but to enable different templates, it must save the content in some format that's preprocessable 21:26 < chaosmaster> yes, but at least the m4 macros are not that flexible like a real shell script as init file 21:27 < tcr> No i don't really thought of macros 21:27 < tcr> erm of m4 21:27 < chaosmaster> for the webpage we even shouldn't need any macros 21:27 < tcr> rather of some things like: ##TITLE## blah 21:27 < tcr> etc 21:28 < chaosmaster> AFAISee the "design" is just put around the edited texts 21:28 < tcr> Well, then it's fine 21:29 < tcr> I just anticipate the next dicussion about design/layout yadda, and then we can just say: Create a new template, the rest will be done automatically 21:29 < chaosmaster> it's just that, everyone was happy about the cms, but no one seems to really care how to migrate our curent page 21:29 < tcr> There'd be even the possibility to offer more than one design -- that all share the same content fiels 21:30 < chaosmaster> and as Joecelyn announced on fm, there may be some confusion about consistency 21:30 < chaosmaster> see drock und the root presence .... 21:31 < tcr> I personally find the current design of the cms page really abhorrent 21:31 < chaosmaster> explain 21:31 < tcr> Well, I just me how one can find that aesthetically and structurally attractive without having a "Knick in der Optik" ;) 21:31 < chaosmaster> :) 21:31 < tcr> +ask 21:32 < chaosmaster> whats your problem? 21:32 -!- Lorini_ [~andrea@pD9506BFB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 21:32 < tcr> Everything (except the main table with the shadow effect) 21:33 < chaosmaster> would you like it more "coool", more 3l1t3? more clean, more structured ....? 21:33 < tcr> the latter two... 21:33 < tcr> I personally would be fine with a well-structured site in black on white 21:34 < chaosmaster> :) 21:34 < chaosmaster> this is (mostly) the same, what I said on the ML 21:35 < tcr> Was it you who reffered to the xinehq page? 21:35 < chaosmaster> design may be changed, but the content is terrible 21:35 < chaosmaster> yes, I reffered 21:36 < tcr> That's a very nicely cohorent webpage with a lot attractive, though not badly structured 21:36 < tcr> I mostly care for the coherentness 21:37 < chaosmaster> I like their way, how they made the download section - it's really easy to find everything 21:38 < esden> hi all 21:38 < chaosmaster> we still need content! adding it with structure is important, as many people will visit the hp when official 2.0 will be released 21:38 < chaosmaster> hi esden! 21:39 < tcr> chaosmaster: Well... 21:39 < tcr> chaosmaster: The menu issue isn't yet any better than it was before 21:40 < chaosmaster> i already tried to add some content, but its hard to work remote without having full access 21:40 < tcr> I hardly can give any real suggestions though... I just see with my eyes, that it isn't right this way 21:41 < chaosmaster> so tell, what's wrong in your opinion, and we may try to investigate further 21:42 < tcr> Ok, but let's do that in a query... it's difficult to express that in any language anyway, and if possible at all, then in your mother tongue 21:42 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M333P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 21:43 < chaosmaster> :) bitte schön 22:12 -!- Octopuce [1000@ALille-201-1-4-47.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 22:13 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E49F3B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 22:25 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958DD53.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:28 < rxr> re 22:28 < tcr> re 22:30 < rxr> hi chaosmaster 22:30 < _NULL_> someone using glibc-2.3.2, gcc-3.2.3 and tried to compile tcl-8.4.2 and got an error? 22:32 < rxr> _NULL_: yes, yes and nope 22:32 < _NULL_> *sigh* 22:32 < _NULL_> ok... thx... (dammit, where's the failure?) 22:32 < tcr> What error do you get? 22:33 < _NULL_> tcr: output in #flood? 22:34 < tcr> Upload is definitively better, so everybody can take easily a look at it 22:35 < _NULL_> aeh... i'm not using rock.... 22:35 < _NULL_> (or the rock-scripts) 22:36 < tcr> Hm, ok. what are you trying? (ie. at what stept do you get the error) 22:37 -!- freed [~chuck@pD9001EBF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:37 < freed> hi @ll 22:37 < _NULL_> tcr: lfs and in https://www.linuxfromscratch.org/view/cvs/chapter05/tcl.html << this step 22:38 < freed> lol geht ja so richtig los is schon 1700 mal gedownloadet worden 22:38 < freed> dat neue release mein ich 22:39 < _NULL_> hi freed 22:39 < tcr> _NULL_: Hmm, well I actually meant what was the last command you typied in 22:39 < freed> hi _null_ 22:39 < rxr> chaosmaster: what do you mean with: 22:39 < rxr> 21:33 < chaosmaster> and as Joecelyn announced on fm, there may be some confusion about 22:39 < _NULL_> make LDFLAGS="-s" 22:39 < rxr> consistency 22:39 < rxr> 21:33 < chaosmaster> see drock und the root presence .... 22:40 < tcr> rxr: Maybe that drock should depriacted entirely right now 22:40 < rxr> tcr: hm ? Explain 22:43 < tcr> rxr: It may be just confusing ... drock has been integrated in rock, so there's no actual need for an extra release announcment of drock 22:43 < freed> hi rxr 22:43 < tcr> _NULL_: well then do 'make LDFLAGS="-s" 2>&1 | tee error.log' and upload that 22:43 < rxr> tcr: you really didn't got the point - reread the mailing-list of the last months ... 22:43 < rxr> hi freed ! 22:44 < _NULL_> https://the-null.de.vu/errors/error.log 22:44 < _NULL_> @ tcr 22:44 < tcr> rxr: Well, a bit more specific wouldn't harm... too much traffic over the last month 22:45 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M333P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 22:46 < rolla> == 15:48:51 =[5]=> Building rene/libdvdplay [1.0.1 1.7-snapshot]. 22:46 < rxr> tcr: we explained often that we decided that most people do not get what "ROCK Linux the distribution build kit" really is about 22:47 < rolla> :) 22:47 < rxr> _not_ even the ROCK guide gets this correct (it needs to be 95% rewritten anyway) 22:47 < rxr> it is much better for ROCK when we announce and promote all the "ROCK powered" projects and hardware solutions seperately 22:48 < rxr> so we do not have one "eierlegende wollmich sau" but many single products that fit one particular purpose 22:48 < tcr> rxr: I'm in time fully aware what a DBK is all about 22:48 < rxr> with this "one big thing" the people do not get what ROCK is about - and leave quickly 22:49 < rolla> rxr I agree 22:49 < rolla> the Rock guide needs big help 22:50 < rxr> DBK ? 22:50 < tcr> distribution build kit (too lazy to write it in full name ;)) 22:51 < rxr> ah ok 22:51 < tcr> wait up, I found the thread in the mailinglist 22:51 < rxr> so we have a announce of the pure build kit - and single announces of all the projects using it 22:53 < tcr> Well, the intent is certainly right, but it has seemed (to me and to others apparantly too) that whenever main-rock gets updated, drock gets also. And there can't be made really differences... I think that _is_ confusing 22:53 < n00kie> mmm 22:54 < tcr> drock might be just be too much interlocked with rock than it probably should... Dunno, if that's good or bad now ;) 22:56 < rxr> tcr: since I'm certainly do most work on ROCK Linux yes - dRock and ROCK have the same release schedule 22:57 < tcr> and that's a bit messy... Well, though I don't really know if it's that what niko meant... just a guess 22:57 < rxr> if other people would contribute more, this would change. Then other could tag individual components and we all would declare the main "ROCK Linxu build kit" to have a new version when all agree 22:59 < rxr> if daja77 with rtai or Cliff and I with some NAS or Router thing tag individual product individual "ROCK Linux as it" would also get other version tags - but I really do not see that dRock and ROCK currently in sync should be a problem at all 22:59 < rxr> if you are happy I could increment the version of ROCK only every second time I increment dRock or so ... 22:59 < tcr> rxr: Hmm, well... I'm not up to date to sources (though that will change in one or two month, when I plan to come back being actively developing)... but maybe targets should be handled like packages, ie. downloaded from somewhere else (so that there's a direct distinction between the DBK and a target) 23:01 < tcr> and also to make a target absolutely "independant" (to some degree)... Then the DBK would be really just like a Tool and not like a distribution 23:05 < rxr> no - this would be really messy 23:05 < rxr> you always would have to puzzle the right versions together and so 23:06 < rxr> maybe some strange targets in a strange state can be handled this way - but all normal any clean coded targets should in be ROCK itself 23:07 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M333P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Damn, wrong button.") 23:08 < tcr> rxr: Hmm, I'm not really sure what the benefits are with that... 23:09 < chaosmaster> chaosmaster is back from silence .... sorry for not responding 23:10 < chaosmaster> hello rxr! 23:10 < rxr> one strange thing in ROCK always has been strange 23:10 < rxr> hi chaosmaster ! 23:11 < chaosmaster> rxr: you asked about my comment about the page? 23:11 < rxr> chaosmaster: yes 23:11 < rxr> the active people where happy - and the other outstanding people complained withotu contributing 23:13 < tcr> _NULL_: Did you solve your problem? Sorry, that I suddenly interrupt talking to you 23:13 < chaosmaster> I'm just want to finish one piece of work, as I usualy don't do so and as the new webpage concept with Cliffs cms is quite good, it needs only some input from all people and we would have a very new page with sex-appeal ... 23:13 < rolla> == 16:06:31 =[5]=> Building gnome2/dia10 [0.91 1.7-snapshot]. 23:14 < _NULL_> tcr: dunno... i'm doing a completely rebuild of the system (which is not much, till now)... a friend was able to build tcl without problems (on a LFS-system) 23:15 < rxr> chaosmaster: no I meant s.th. different - mom 23:15 < tcr> _NULL_: Well, the error seems very trivial (just missing some include file somewhere), but, as tcl is actually a big package, I except some deeper error. Are you familiar with C code? 23:16 < tcr> expect 23:16 < rxr> chaosmaster: : 23:16 < rxr> 21:33 < chaosmaster> and as Joecelyn announced on fm, there may be some confusion about 23:16 < rxr> consistency 23:16 < rxr> 21:33 < chaosmaster> see drock und the root presence .... 23:17 < chaosmaster> yes, thats right 23:17 < _NULL_> tcr: yes i am... but - i'm still trying to reproduce the error... if this works - then i will have a deeper look into it... (but still i hope something is wrong with the stuff i did) 23:18 < rxr> chaosmaster: I meant: what do you want to say with this - I don't understand ... 23:18 < chaosmaster> I mean the beta cms is on www.rocklinux.net and curently just a test, but your part on rocklinux.org is in the new design and thats inconsistend - even with the cms 23:20 < rxr> ahh !!! ok - I thought you meant some dRock ROCK confusion in general ... 23:20 < rxr> I think most normal people do not find the CMS 23:20 < rxr> so this should be no problem 23:20 < chaosmaster> I would like to port the whole page to the cms and go online as you announce more and more releases on fm and people will go to our page and we have the same "no sex-appeal" and hobby-project iomage 23:20 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M333P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 23:21 < chaosmaster> but only the drock page is different from the rest of rocklinux._org_ 23:21 < rxr> chaosmaster: if you find people to do all the migration ... 23:21 < chaosmaster> I will! 23:21 < rxr> ah keep going 23:21 < n00kie> ahhhhhhhh 23:21 < tcr> Hmm, can't that be automated? 23:21 < n00kie> i hate this damn damn damn fdisk 23:21 < n00kie> waaah 23:21 < n00kie> it destroyed my hdd :-( 23:21 < rxr> but as cliff if you can start now - and the content you enter now can be later used for the ROCK side - or if there will be some data model change ... 23:22 < rxr> chaosmaster: btw do you regular ROCK builds ? 23:22 < chaosmaster> as you may notice, I tried to get back active on the list and made a bunch of propositions, but they got no response, even no echo :( 23:22 < chaosmaster> no regulars, but a 4 weeks old build is on my server running (inconsistent) 23:23 < chaosmaster> (it's silly to try to install a p4 build on an athlon) 23:23 < rxr> inconsistent ? 23:23 < rxr> ah yes 23:23 < tcr> rxr: Not all time running 23:23 < rxr> chaosmaster: any chance you get active before the final 2.0 ? 23:23 < chaosmaster> so i had to rebuild the most importatnt packages and try and try .... 23:24 < chaosmaster> what kind of activity do you need? 23:24 < chaosmaster> I wanted to make the categories, I would migrate the page, but not without ppl standing behind the whole idea! 23:25 < rxr> mostly verifing that it does not only buld on my box - but also on others 23:25 < rxr> for the desktop target I seem to be down to 25 errors only ;-) 23:25 < rxr> more to be killed this weekend 23:25 < chaosmaster> thats not the problem, as I send patches, as soon as i can fix a package - and then a whole bunch of them :) 23:26 < rxr> yeah ... 23:26 < tcr> chaosmaster: What must be migrated? 23:27 < rxr> chaosmaster: would be good to use my svn tree - it is more up to date (as cliff is currently too busy) 23:27 < chaosmaster> but, I'm willing to do the work no one cares about - webpage and docs :) and testing 23:27 < chaosmaster> how hard is it to install svn as I don't want to do much around svn 23:28 < chaosmaster> do you have an cvs gw? 23:28 < rxr> no gateway - but subversion (client only) is a tar xvfI ; ./configure ; make ; make install 23:28 < chaosmaster> tcr: its still the page design 23:29 < rxr> or do a Build-Pkg subversion (within a consistent ROCK build) and you'll get a server-able subversion 23:29 < chaosmaster> :) I love ROCK :) 23:29 < rxr> chaosmaster: I care about docu and homepage - this is why I also reworked the whole dRock page ... 23:29 < rxr> chaosmaster: have you taken a look - I did more rework today on the dRock page 23:30 < chaosmaster> rxr: I'm not uptodate today .... 23:30 < chaosmaster> but most changes in cms are made by me 23:30 < rxr> but for my content on www.rocklinux.org I would prefer my current non-cms way since I can spell-check the pages and do advanced editing in my favourite editor ... 23:30 < tcr> chaosmaster: So I convinced you that the design isn't perfect? 23:30 * rxr away su later 23:30 < tcr> chaosmaster: You talked before more about content rather than design 23:30 < chaosmaster> your spell is always right :) 23:31 < chaosmaster> design is secondary, but structure is very important! 23:31 < chaosmaster> its still hard to navigate and to find anything on rocks pages 23:32 < chaosmaster> its not the standard way: change "obtain a copy" to downloads or software and so on ... 23:32 < tcr> Yup 23:33 < chaosmaster> ups, sorry - its there :) 23:34 < tcr> I know a guy who's a very good hobby webdesigner. Though it's quite a time ago I've seen him the last time... 23:34 < chaosmaster> ... but: I think a static box above would be better than everytime changing options in the menu. keep the main topics always on the side and ADD specialized topics below to navigate 23:35 < chaosmaster> tcr: try to contact him, pls 23:36 < tcr> Yeah I'll... 23:37 < n00kie> hmm 23:37 < n00kie> dunno == don't know ? 23:37 < chaosmaster> ?? 23:37 < n00kie> what means dunno ? 23:38 -!- Netsplit asimov.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: aszlig, vectrax 23:38 < tcr> n00kie: Yop 23:38 < chaosmaster> AFAIK 23:38 < n00kie> ah, ty 23:38 -!- Netsplit over, joins: aszlig, vectrax 23:38 < chaosmaster> hello aszlig 23:40 -!- wolle [~wolle@rz-du-006.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has quit ("Client exiting") 23:40 < tcr> LOL, Harald Schmidt is great today 23:40 < chaosmaster> rxr: whats about more subpages for the 2.0.0.html? there is still to much on there: history, install, bugs, ... 23:40 < chaosmaster> tcr, my tv is dead for months now .... 23:43 < tcr> chaosmaster: You're missing something! 23:44 < chaosmaster> tcr: where is the livestream? 23:46 < tcr> of harald schmidt?! 23:46 -!- aszlig [~aszlig@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 23:46 -!- dreamind [dreamind@skeeter.dreamind.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:47 < n00kie> when i dd if=/dev/null /dev/hdb make 23:47 < n00kie> how would it look like on devfs? 23:47 < chaosmaster> n00kie: not g00d! ;) 23:47 < n00kie> /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/cd or /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0/cd 23:47 < n00kie> ? 23:47 < n00kie> fdisk destroyed my hdd 23:47 < chaosmaster> I mean dd on your hdd 23:48 < n00kie> hmm ? 23:48 < chaosmaster> btw: if=/dev/zero is better I think 23:48 < n00kie> alright 23:48 < n00kie> wish me luck man 23:49 < chaosmaster> what is hdb? a hdd or cdrom? 23:49 < n00kie> hdd 23:49 < n00kie> destroyed hdd from evil fdisk 23:49 < chaosmaster> so what is /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/cd good for? 23:50 < n00kie> there is no "disk" 23:50 < n00kie> just cd 23:50 < n00kie> mmm 23:50 < n00kie> wait 23:50 < n00kie> FATALER FEHLER: Konnte nicht auf die Festplatte zugreifen 23:50 < n00kie> Eine Taste drücken, um cfdisk zu beenden 23:50 < n00kie> Fatal Error: 23:50 < n00kie> Cannot get access to hdd 23:51 * chaosmaster has just eat a pkg of cheese, 1 Fladenbrot and 1 tomato 23:51 < n00kie> press any key to close cfdisk 23:51 < n00kie> What should I do? 23:51 < chaosmaster> n00kie: I dont use cfdisk ... why not the hard way and just fdisk? 23:51 < chaosmaster> so do you have any /dev/discs/* ? 23:52 < chaosmaster> what does /proc/partitions say? 23:54 < n00kie> mom 23:54 -!- aszlig [~aszlig@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has joined #rocklinux 23:54 < n00kie> [23:54:08][root@n0nsense][/home/n00kie]> cat /proc/partitions 23:54 < n00kie> major minor #blocks name 23:54 < n00kie> 3 0 80043264 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc 23:54 < n00kie> 3 1 3068383 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 23:54 < n00kie> 3 2 1 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2 23:54 < n00kie> 3 5 35840983 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part5 23:54 < n00kie> 3 6 9767488 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 23:54 < n00kie> 3 7 248976 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part7 23:55 < n00kie> 3 8 7815591 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part8 23:55 < n00kie> 3 64 9965592 ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/disc 23:55 < n00kie> ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/disc is the destroyed disk 23:55 < n00kie> From FDISK 23:55 < chaosmaster> what do you mean by destroyed? crashed parttable? 23:56 < n00kie> everything 23:56 < n00kie> can't create new partitions 23:56 < n00kie> can't get access 23:56 < n00kie> to the hdd 23:56 < n00kie> everything destroyed 23:56 < n00kie> FROM DISK 23:56 < n00kie> Fdisk 23:57 < chaosmaster> that doesnt look like a fdisk problem, but a real crash 23:57 < n00kie> yes 23:57 < n00kie> From FDSISK 23:57 < n00kie> FDisk 23:57 < n00kie> The damn program destroyed my hdd 23:57 < n00kie> I hate this program 23:57 < chaosmaster> thats not possible 23:57 < n00kie> waah 23:57 < n00kie> my poor hdd :-( 23:58 < chaosmaster> there is a "IBM hdd test tool" out there - maybe you can check the disk? 23:58 < n00kie> for linux? 23:58 < chaosmaster> in my repository in rock is a tool called gpart, which can bring partitions "back" 23:58 < chaosmaster> its a boot floppy image 23:59 < n00kie> i don't have floppy :) 23:59 < chaosmaster> thats a problem :) 23:59 < n00kie> fuck fdisk 23:59 < n00kie> sorry 23:59 < n00kie> but fuck fdisk 23:59 < n00kie> :-( 23:59 < n00kie> wraahh 23:59 < n00kie> just bad --- Log closed Sat May 10 00:00:03 2003