--- Log opened Mon May 12 00:00:58 2003
--- Day changed Mon May 12 2003
00:01 < rxr__> ich habe jetzt kate mitsammt dem log geschlossen - mir wird zu schlecht ...
00:04 < daja77> ja es waren zu viele fragen auf einmal, dass muss scheisse werden...
00:04 < rxr__> wb daja77  ;-)
00:06 < daja77> thx only some minutes, downloading stuff for minimal to build it over night
00:06 < daja77> rxr__: believe you couldn't think so fast to give a good answer to everybody
00:06 * -> esden wird schwindlich ...
00:06 < daja77> it was a horror for me
00:07 < daja77> esden: ??
00:07 < esden> this log is making me crazy ...
00:07 * -> esden gets a headache
00:08 * Be-El gives esden some aspirin
00:08 < esden> Be-El: thanks
00:09 * daja77 votes to not translate the log
00:09 < daja77> I'd prefer to do an faq based on this rather then publish that rubbish
00:11 < daja77> *argh* Mike
00:14 < esden> 21:48 <+daja77> martin: ich glaub mit iso vom desktop target is vielen schon geholfen
00:14 < esden> cheers to rxr ;-)
00:14 < daja77> rxr__: Mike forgot to add a checksum to his disktype package
00:14 < daja77> esden: was that wrong?
00:15 < esden> daja77: sure FAQ based on the talk would be _very_ nice
00:15 < esden> but I will not do it ;-)
00:15 < esden> daja77: dunno
00:15 < daja77> hehe ok
00:15 * -> esden is cleaning up the log ... that is enough
00:15 < daja77> rxr__: had this error in rev 191 :)
00:16 * -> esden is at 74% of the log ... so in some moments it should be ready cleaned
00:16 < daja77> esden: well if i finished realtime stuff I hope to have more time to work on rock
00:17 < daja77> esden: good time to change the topic
00:17 < daja77> hehe my athlon is burning (two builds at once)
00:18 < daja77> O_o linux24-header failed
00:20 < rxr__> daja77: you use the current svn ?
00:20 < daja77> 191
00:20 < rxr__> I did some ppc changes some hours ago that might have some side effects on the linux* ...
00:21 < daja77> need the errlog?
00:21 < rxr__> daja77: yes - the tail would be a nice start
00:21 < rxr__> I'm currently wrting an email to a contact to AMD.
00:22 < rxr__> How is "send hardware" over best phrased to increase the chance that it possible happens?
00:22 < rxr__> s.th. like:
00:22 < rxr__> now as the x86-64 architecture was released to the public I kindly
00:22 < rxr__> would like to reask if AMD is now interested in hardware donations to
00:22 < rxr__> the ROCK Linux team?
00:22 < rxr__> ^- any more ideas ?
00:23 < daja77> Can't auto-detect srctar for package 'linux24-header'!
00:23 < daja77> --- BUILD ERROR ---
00:23 < daja77> hmm I did download -required before
00:24 < esden> ok ... cleaned log is online
00:24 < esden> http://www.rocklinux.org/people/esden/talks/rocklinux-rootboard-talk.cleaned
00:24 < esden> now convert to html
00:25 < daja77> esden: sorry later that day
00:26 * daja77 shutting down now, really
00:27 < rxr__> daja77: I committed changes - please retray
00:27 < rolla> re daja77
00:27 < daja77> *gna* rxr__ you really don't like people sleep, ok
00:27 < daja77> re rolla
00:28 < rolla> rxr__: you still here?
00:30 < rxr__> rolla: yes
00:30 < esden> http://www.rocklinux.org/people/esden/talks/rocklinux-rootboard-talk.cleaned.html <-- html version
00:30 < rolla> rxr__: I am still having trouble with stage 1 coreutils :(
00:30 < esden> ok ... posting that to the mailinglist
00:30 < daja77> esden: could you please change the topic back to checkout instructions
00:31 < esden> daja77: in a moment
00:31 < rxr__> daja77: oops sorry - I removed files in the wrong dir !!!
00:31 < daja77> /mnt/buffer/rock-new-co/rock-trunk/scripts/Build-Pkg: line 24: /mnt/buffer/rock-new-co/rock-trunk/package/base/linux24/lx_config.sh: No such file or directory
00:31 < daja77> /mnt/buffer/rock-new-co/rock-trunk/scripts/Build-Pkg: line 24: /mnt/buffer/rock-new-co/rock-trunk/package/base/linux24/lx_config.sh: No such file or directory
00:32 < daja77> *argh* why the hell twice
00:34 < daja77> rolla: stage 1 coreutils?
00:34 -!- mode/#rocklinux [+o esden] by ChanServ
00:35 -!- esden changed the topic of #rocklinux to: ROCK Linux 1.5/1.6 is depricated please use 1.7/2.0 instead : ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now ( clifford 1.7 tree: cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@clifford.homedns.org:/home/cvs co -P rock-src-1.7; rxr 2.0 tree: svn co http://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk/ )
00:36 < rxr__> daja77: fixed in a few seconds
00:36 -!- mode/#rocklinux [-o esden] by esden
00:36 * daja77 waits... ;)
00:36 < daja77> esden: thx
00:38 < rxr__> commited
00:38 * daja77 trying
00:38 < rolla> daja77: yup
00:41 < daja77> ok linux24-header works again
00:42 < daja77> so now finally gn8 folks
00:42 < esden> ok ... now cleared all rootboard talk related information ...
00:42 * rxr__ should take a better look for the $PWD the next time ...
00:42 < esden> everything is now in original state
00:42 < daja77> good
00:43 < esden> ok my mail with logs arrived at the ml
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00:52 < rxr__> esden: still here ?
00:54 < Be-El> und wech
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00:56 < rxr__> daja77: ?
00:56 < rxr__> das svn design is dreck ??? huh ????
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00:59 < esden> grr ... I missed rxr
00:59 < esden> >_<
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01:05 < rxr> re
01:10 < esden> re rxr 
01:10 < esden> what do you need from me?
01:16 < esden> hmm ...
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01:19 < JTBurn> can anyone translate me a few spanish words ???
01:20 < JTBurn> Alguien sabe espa?ol?
01:20 < JTBurn> No se ingl?s muy bien
01:20 < JTBurn> please :)
01:21 < esden> the second one means "I do not understand english very well"
01:22 < esden> I do not know what Alguien means ... but "sabe espanol" means "know spanish"
01:30 * JTBurn wishes a good night and sleep well :)
01:31 < esden> n8 JTBurn 
01:59 < esden> n8 everyone
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03:07 < rolla> grrr
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03:40 < __mnemoc> re
03:40 < __mnemoc> is rene around?
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03:55 < __mnemoc> :(
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04:04 < n00kie_> Hola Mike1 :-)
04:09 < mnemoc> no mike1
04:13 < n00kie_> ok
04:16 < mnemoc> n8
04:32 < n00kie_> sleep well, mnemoc
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07:05 < blindcoder> moin
07:09 < n00kie_> Good morning, blindcoder
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08:17 < netrunner> moin
09:15 < _NULL_> hi
09:16 < blindcoder> moin nully *winke*
09:16 < _NULL_> hi blindy *wink*
09:32 < netrunner> yipee, already in stage 3 :) *jumparound*
09:32 < Lorini> moin
09:33 * fronti has still problems to build rock-1.7 on gentoo.. it hangs in stage 0 glibc.. :( now i'm trying the cvs version, not the snapshot.. keep the fingers crossed
09:33 < blindcoder> moin Lori
09:34 < _NULL_> blindcoder: Lori? this sounds like a "papagei" *fg*
09:34 < _NULL_> but hi Lorini
09:34 < netrunner> fronti: my problems seem solved since I use a _clean_ checkout from yesterday.
09:35 < Lorini> hi blindcoder
09:35 < fronti> netrunner: ok.. than i do a fresh checkout now
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09:41 < blindcoder> _NULL_: I'm simply too lazy to hit <tab> sometimes ^^;
09:41 < netrunner> fronti: well, I can not tell if it was my fault while browsing through the sources ... I had weird errors here and they're all gone.
09:41 < _NULL_> blindcoder: tssss
09:42 < _NULL_> *argl* typos are bad, if you're doing a LFS-system. *note to self*
09:45 < blindcoder> _NULL_: ?
09:46 < _NULL_> blindcoder: ?
09:48 < blindcoder> _NULL_: what typo?
09:49 < _NULL_> blindcoder: typo: e.g. ./configure -prefix=/usr... and so
09:51 < blindcoder> hmm... k
09:54 < _NULL_> :p
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09:56 < _NULL_> hi TxC
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09:57 < _NULL_> thx for your contribution in #rocklinux ...
09:58 < blindcoder> hehe
09:58 < rxr> re
09:59 < _NULL_> hi rxr
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10:00 < nAdIeD> Mike1
10:00 < nAdIeD> are you there?
10:01 < _NULL_> hi nAdIeD
10:01 < nAdIeD> h1
10:01 < nAdIeD> hi all
10:02 < nAdIeD> NUll are you seen Mike1 ?
10:03 < _NULL_> nAdIeD: not today...
10:04 < nAdIeD> ok thx
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10:07 < c4y0> hello!
10:08 < blindcoder> nAdIeD: I think he's still asleep
10:08 < nAdIeD> ok
10:11 < _NULL_> yeah... on 02 o'clock this could be a reason for Mike1-away :p
10:16 < rxr> esden: are you here ?
10:16 < nAdIeD> ok
10:16 < nAdIeD> see you
10:16 < nAdIeD> :)
10:16 < _NULL_> bye nAdIeD
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10:25 < blindcoder> damn... I'm out of webcomic AGAIN *ARGH*
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10:40 < JTBurn> Hi
10:50 < esden> good morning
10:50 < esden> rxr: ???
10:50 < blindcoder> moin esden
10:50 < netrunner> esden: moin, shouldn't you be attending ds right now? ;)
10:51 < blindcoder> netrunner: you _still_ haven't given up on bringing esden to Uni? *shakes head in disbelief*
10:51 < netrunner> blindcoder: I am trying to do small talk - saying things that have no meaning at all :)
10:52 < netrunner> esden: you don't miss anything, mic doesn't work, n-dimensional integrations :(
10:52 < blindcoder> netrunner: oh, I see. sorry I'm not good at these kind of talk -_-'
10:53 < _NULL_> ouch
10:53 < _NULL_> hi esden
10:54 < esden> netrunner: I should ... but I stay at home today ... 
10:54 < _NULL_> guess students are very good at small talk... they 're seeing it daily - when they 're attending courses... the person who teaches them, is standing in the room - and says many words - without meaning *vbeg*
10:55 < _NULL_> esden: *kick* lazy student
10:55 < blindcoder> netrunner: he's mentally preparing for me coming over tonight *harr*
10:56 < esden> netrunner: I have to harden my brain ... so I can stand blindcoder coming over here ...
10:56 < blindcoder> esden: not only your brain, sweetie *hrr*
10:57 < blindcoder> I'm off... eating something now.
10:57 < _NULL_> blindcoder: "guten hunger"
10:58 < esden> blindcoder: YUK ... bleahhhh ...
10:58 * -> esden has to puke
11:01 < netrunner> blindcoder: party tonight?
11:05 < fronti> hmm, the glibc in stage 0 won't build on an gentoo system.. it turn into an endless loop.. look at the logfile here: http://zebra.fh-weingarten.de/~kliche/log-glibc.gz  (packed 75 kbyte unpacked 9 MB) does anybody can explain this?
11:06 * -> esden taking a look
11:06 < fronti> thanks..  :)
11:08 < esden> that looks strange ...
11:08 < fronti> yeah.. ;) i can't explain this to me, thats why i ask
11:09 < Lorini> hi esden
11:10 < esden> hi Lorini!!!
11:10 < Lorini> :)
11:11 < esden> a wee for Lorini ;-)
11:11 < Lorini> yeah!
11:11 < Lorini> give me a big wee
11:11 < esden> weeeeeee ;-)
11:12 < Lorini> i said a _big_ wee
11:12 < esden> WEEEEEEEEEEEEE
11:12 < esden> fronti: I do not see why that loop occures ...
11:12 * -> esden looking in glibc build output on rocklinux
11:12 < Lorini> thanks :)
11:21 < rxr> hi esden the rxvt bug was a simple variable assignment typo - I'll commit it in a few seconds into svn ..
11:22 < esden> rxr: good
11:22 < esden> fronti: ok ... that has to be an error in make
11:23 < fronti> esden: means, to down or upgrade grade the make version
11:24 < blindcoder> back
11:24 < esden> fronti: I would try to install the make version that is delivered with rocklinux
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11:24 < fronti> esden: ok, i try this ;)
11:24 < esden> it could help
11:24 < esden> but that is only a guess
11:25 < blindcoder> esden: htf did Hannes get a gf?
11:25 < esden> blindcoder: somehow through aszlig ... 
11:25 < esden> If I am not fully wrong
11:25 < blindcoder> o_O aszlig knows women???
11:26 < _NULL_> *looooooool*
11:26 < esden> blindcoder: yes through "schaukampf"
11:26 < blindcoder> schaukampf? HAE?
11:26 * blindcoder durcheinander
11:26 * blindcoder puzzled
11:27 < esden> blindcoder: AND hannes GF ... is looking fscking good
11:28 < blindcoder> GAAAH
11:28 < blindcoder> HE DOESN"T DESERVE ONE! :P
11:28 < _NULL_> blindcoder: now your "weltbild" is corrupt?
11:28 < esden> no blindcoder he deserves one ... 
11:30 < rxr> Committed revision 194.
11:32 < blindcoder> _NULL_: that, too :)
11:32 < blindcoder> esden: sure he does. He does just as much as I do. :P
11:32 < blindcoder> or everyone else, for that case
11:33 < _NULL_> blindcoder: you deserve a gf? /* no comment */ *vbeg*
11:33 * blindcoder kicks _NULL_ in her butt
11:33 < blindcoder> _NULL_: consider yourself lucke to not have balls :P
11:34 * _NULL_ runs away and gets a sword
11:34 < rxr> kasc: are you here ?
11:34 < _NULL_> ph34r me, blindcoder :p *hrhr*
11:35 < esden> argh how do I get centericq working through the fscking proxy
11:35 * blindcoder pulls out his magical power, summoning a protective Mana Wall around him
11:36 < esden> blindcoder: you are playing way too much rpg games
11:36 * _NULL_ destroys blindcoder 's mana wall with her black magic power
11:36 < esden> rxr: you wanted something from me yesterday ... what was it?
11:37 * blindcoder casts Demon Sword and dashes it against _NULL_, stopping only milimeters in front of her neck.
11:37 < blindcoder> _NULL_: Ready to give up now?
11:37 < _NULL_> blindcoder: nope. never
11:37 < netrunner> argl - 3-coreutils failed :(
11:37 < blindcoder> "Stubborn Women...."
11:37 < _NULL_> kill me, blindcoder
11:37 < rxr> esden: only emails to AMD - some discussion about how to phrase:
11:37 < _NULL_> blindcoder: *kick*
11:37 * blindcoder casts Dimensional Dance and vanishes
11:37 < rxr> "send hardware to us" in a way they might consider doing so ...
11:38 < blindcoder> esden: might be :D
11:38 < _NULL_> *gives up*
11:39 < netrunner> stage 3 is chrooted, isn't it?
11:39 < esden> rxr: that is difficult ... you have to make them curious ... and tell them what we will give them in return ... amd logo on www.rocklinux.org is not enough I think ...
11:39 < esden> netrunner: ack
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11:41 < netrunner> esden: so why does it think it can run autom4te using the absolute path from the host fs?
11:41 < rxr> Committed revision 196.
11:42 < netrunner> (from 3-coreutils.err) /usr/bin/autoconf: line 271: exec: /mnt/waterworld/linux/rock-src-1.7/build/default-2.0.0-beta3-x86-pentium3-desktop-expert/root/usr/bin/autom4te: cannot execute: No such file or directory
11:45 < esden> netrunner: I do not know ... but that error is known ... or at least I get it too
11:47 < netrunner> esden: wonderful, is there a workaround, or do you ignore it simply?
11:48 < blindcoder> *lol*
11:48 < esden> netrunner: it has to be fixed ... but I do not know any workaround
11:48 < blindcoder> I didn't think that this one was still around :D
11:48 < blindcoder> "WARNING! YOUR DOMAIN CRASH-OVERRIDE.NET WILL EXPIRE IN 22 DAYS"
11:48 < esden> netrunner: if you make rebuild stage 9 then coreutils will be built correctly ...
11:48 < esden> in 9th stage
11:49 < netrunner> esden: ok, then I'll wait until next weekend, should be done 'till then :)
11:50 * netrunner writing a shopping list for his new athlon-mp 
11:50 < daja77> re
11:52 < esden> netrunner: hehe
11:52 < esden> re daja77 
11:52 < Lorini> hi daja77
11:53 < fronti> esden: btw.. make-3.80 make-3.79 and differnt sed versions, all produce the same error.. now i'm going to hate my company, who is telling me to install gentoo on my laptop ;)
11:54 < rxr> fronti: which company tells you to install gentoo ?
11:54 < netrunner> hm ... the .gems are only built after the last build-circle of a package?
11:55 < rxr> netrunner: yes - I think so.
11:55 < netrunner> rxr: thx
11:55 < fronti> rxr: the one, i'm working in the moment.. they build a system based on gentoo.. but i try to migrate this to rock ;)
11:55 < daja77> hi rxr , esden , Lorini and everybody
11:56 < netrunner> hi daja
11:57 < daja77> d'oh I am late...
11:58 < daja77> rxr kept me awake too long... ;)
11:58 < esden> argh I want to have rocklinux on my server ... that debian fluff is going on my nerves ...>_<
11:58 < esden> how can I switch from debian to rocklinux not rebooting the box?
11:58 < daja77> esden: ACK, but it was impossible for me to install a recent rock
11:59 < blindcoder> esden: uptime junky
11:59 < esden> blindcoder: :P 
11:59 < blindcoder> esden: cd /usr/src/rock-src-1.7/build
11:59 < esden> sure I am : 11:59:23 up 357 days, 12:05,  5 users,  load average: 0.11, 0.05, 0.01
11:59 < esden> that is cool !!!
11:59 < blindcoder> esden: ln -s / <insert build-ID here>
11:59 < blindcoder> cd ..
12:00 < blindcoder> ./scripts/Build-Target
12:00 < esden> lol
12:00 < blindcoder> oh, and turn off Paranoia Checks
12:00 < esden> yes that for sure ;-)
12:00 < daja77> the way to crash your box...
12:00 < netrunner> blind: I think you could run into severe problems there. I suggest booting the build/<buildid>/root in an uml
12:00 < blindcoder> daja77: well... in theory it should work...
12:01 < daja77> blindcoder: I bet against it
12:01 < blindcoder> *snif*
12:01 < daja77> blindcoder: don't like losing, eh?
12:02 < blindcoder> daja77: I didn't loose. I just didn't win! *MWAHAHAHA*
12:02 < esden> the other solution would be to take a magnet in form of a rock and move it over the harddisk of the server ;-)
12:02 * blindcoder puts up a sign [ Beware of good mood ]
12:02 < daja77> yeah sure you made a decent rank two ;)
12:02 * -> esden hiding before blindcoder in good mood
12:03 < blindcoder> hehe
12:03 * -> esden thinking of april the 1st ;-)
12:04 < daja77> rxr: what was your question?
12:04 < daja77> esden: yeah that was good
12:04 < esden> documentation on how to convert your server to rocklinux without rebooting it ;-)
12:04 < blindcoder> esden: :P *kick* *punsh*
12:04 < blindcoder> esden: oh, you didn't mean "that"
12:04 < esden> blindcoder: autsch
12:04 < netrunner> esden: just do not reboot - switch it of and then only boot :)
12:05 < esden> netrunner: yea that is also a solution
12:05 < daja77> esden: I once had a strange discussion with a guy explaining me how to change the kernel without rebooting
12:08 < esden> what? rofl!
12:08 < daja77> it was an esoteric talk
12:08 < esden> on microkernel machines you can at least partly replace the kernel without rebooting
12:08 < esden> everything besides the microkernel
12:10 < esden> how do I build a package from sources on debian ... I mean so that it is accounted in the deb database
12:10 < daja77> this guy has lots of strange hardware and knows even m,ore strange stories about it
12:10 < esden> I can get it with apt-get sources <packagename>
12:10 < esden> but how to build it ... >_<
12:13 < esden> ahh there it is apt-get -b source <packagename>
12:14 < esden> but I need dpkg-buildpackage for that ... >_<
12:14 < daja77> did I already mentioned that debian sucks...
12:17 < daja77> well I'm off now cu
12:19 < esden> AAAARGH I HATE DEBIAN DEPENDANCY CHECING!!!!
12:19 < esden> WAHHHH
12:19 < netrunner> esden: you once decided to use debian. now suffer!
12:22 < rxr> argh building cross gcc-3.3 fixed now ;-) (hopefully finally)
12:23 < rxr> hm - no not finally, are the gcc people crazy ??
12:23 < rxr> unwind.inc: In function `_Unwind_Resume_or_Rethrow':
12:23 < rxr> unwind.inc:248: warning: `return' with a value, in function returning void
12:23 < rxr> ^- source from the gcc that fails now ... ?!?!?
12:23 < rxr> ah no sorry - me was confused ...
12:23 < rxr> but anyway strange code
12:24 < rxr> so build continues ...
12:25 < esden> netrunner: rocklinux is usable for me an the server since two months or so ... and I installed the box over 2 years ago
12:26 < netrunner> esden: so you rebooted it in the meantime at least once? shame on you! ;)
12:26 < esden> netrunner: yes I had to ... power went off for over a half an hour in the part of ingolstadt the server is standing
12:27 < esden> we have ups there but not enough to hold the machines up for longer then 15mins ... and we have no power generator
12:28 < esden> argh why does gettext conflict java-compiler?!?!
12:29 < esden> debian sux badly
12:29 < blindcoder> esden: MUAHAHA
12:29 < blindcoder> esden: for a laugh, read animeftp today :P
12:32 < esden> blindcoder: what do you mean?
12:33 * -> esden posted a comment to the chibi post ;-)
12:33 < blindcoder> muaha
12:33 < blindcoder> What do you mean? "What do you mean?" I don't understand what you mean...
12:34 < esden> nothing nothing ... me only bit confused ... 
12:35 < blindcoder> esden: by what?
12:35 < esden> hmm ... building debian packages out of sources is not as difficult as I thought ... 
12:36 < esden> nice
12:47 < esden> ok ... I was wrong ... that is not nice ... you are not able to tell this fluff to resolve dependancies automatically ... and the dependances are braindead too
12:48 < esden> the debian developers are sitting there and creating dependances so that it is as difficult as possible to install something >_<
12:48 < kasc> moin
12:48 < esden> hi kasc 
12:48 < blindcoder> esden: well... duh
12:48 < blindcoder> hi kasc
12:48 < kasc> animeftp?
12:50 < blindcoder> .net
12:50 < kasc> ah, found it :)
12:50 < blindcoder> _NULL_: talking about net... are you still playing around with .ARG?
12:51 < _NULL_> blindcoder: please, please, please don't remind me...
12:52 < blindcoder> MWAHAHHA
12:52 < blindcoder> I think that means "no" :D
12:52 < esden> blindcoder: can I have the megatokyo mp3's? ...
12:52 < blindcoder> esden: just dl them
12:52 < esden> I am too stupid to download it as it seems
12:52 < _NULL_> blindcoder: it means "yes i still have to play with this crap"
12:52 < esden> I can only stream that
12:53 < blindcoder> esden: mom
12:53 < blindcoder> esden: you can FTP to the outside?
12:53 < esden> yes from apollo ;-)
12:53 < esden> or from one of the uni machines
12:53 < esden> then bingo has not to pay the traffic
12:53 < blindcoder> esden: k. you have an account on crazyhorse, don't you?
12:53 < esden> can be ... 
12:54 < blindcoder> interactiblindcoder@crazyhorse:~$ id esden
12:54 < blindcoder> uid=1003(esden) gid=100(users) groups=100(users)
12:54 < blindcoder> yes you have :P
12:54 < blindcoder> esden: I'll put it in your home
12:55 < blindcoder> esden: read today's MT? *lol*
12:56 < blindcoder> I really have to write that one down :)
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13:03 < blindcoder> brb, need something to drink
13:05 < esden> "PH34R MY NUKL34R FIR3W4LL" *rotfl*
13:09 < esden> "I can't get through, the error code tells me that you should contact your isp or your network manager." "Can I contact him with something blunt and heavy?" 
13:09 < esden> ROFL
13:12 < blindcoder> back
13:12 < blindcoder> esden: hehe :D
13:22 < esden> have I already said that debian dependancies are braindead?
13:24 < blindcoder> esden: 1.239 times if I counted correctly
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13:24 < blindcoder> (given that I counted at all :D)
13:25 < blindcoder> hi lowks_
13:26 -!- cOdEz [~codez@p50906FAB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
13:26 < cOdEz> hi
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13:32 < esden> hi cOdEz 
13:33 < esden> ahh making toasts with ham, salami, cheese and pizza spice ;-)
13:33 < esden> yumm yumm yumm
13:33 < netrunner> esden: *kick* /me is hungry.
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13:34 < esden> netrunner: how is BS?
13:34 < esden> netrunner: something interesting?
13:35 < esden> netrunner: you get knowledge food ... 
13:37 < blindcoder> esden: keep me some of that for a late night snack
13:37 < esden> blindcoder: hmm ... will see ;-)
13:37 < netrunner> esden: about calling procedures in different ways. his painting on the wall looks like a 4 year childs picture :)
13:38 < esden> netrunner: as always ;-)
13:38 < blindcoder> esden: oh yes, you will see... ad how you will see f you don't spare me some *chuckles*
13:39 < netrunner> esden: just mailed my gf and ordered food for my return :)
13:39 < esden> netrunner: LOL
13:40 < blindcoder> netrunner: good. that's what women are there for, after all ;)
13:40 < esden> blindcoder: so I have to buy more toast bread
13:41 < netrunner> blindcoder:  yeah, clothes get washed and ironed, room gets cleaned up ...
13:41 < blindcoder> esden: nah. lose it. I'll be eating at comany meeting
13:41 < blindcoder> netrunner: nice :)
13:41 < netrunner> blindcoder: but it has also not so good sides (had to watch anger management yesterday)
13:41 < blindcoder> netrunner: fro more info on the uses of women read here http://www.symlink.ch/article.pl?sid=03/05/11/1140248&mode=nested
13:42 * netrunner -> home
13:42 < esden> blindcoder: is that a women-howto?
13:43 < blindcoder> esden: no. the G-Camp rules :)
13:43 < blindcoder> LUGsCamp
13:43 < blindcoder> GAH
13:43 < blindcoder> LUG-CAMP
13:44 < _NULL_> blindcoder: when do you have birthday?
13:44 < blindcoder> 21. of August
13:44 < blindcoder> why?
13:44 < _NULL_> ok... then you will receive a "tipp-trainer" ... :p
13:44 < blindcoder> _NULL_: want to give me a sexy woman for b'day? :D
13:44 < blindcoder> a what?
13:45 < JTBurn> :)
13:45 < _NULL_> blindcoder: *lol* a "aufblasbare gummipuppe" maybe... :p
13:45 < blindcoder> _NULL_: nah thanks. those don't feel real.
13:45 < _NULL_> but i guess a program, which teaches you typing would be more useful...
13:45 < blindcoder> and DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT how I can know that
13:45 < blindcoder> you're most definately wrong
13:46 < _NULL_> *g* nope. i'm never wrong
13:46 < JTBurn> HeHe
13:46 < blindcoder> _NULL_: that's news to me :P
13:46 < _NULL_> JTBurn: am i wron? ;)
13:46 < esden> "Leider la"sst es sich oft nicht vermeiden, dass einige Personen fu"r die Dauer der Fahrt im Innenraum des Fahrzeugs untergebracht werden mu"ssen." ROFL
13:46 < _NULL_> +g
13:46 < esden> muahaha
13:47 < blindcoder> esden: read on :)
13:47 < esden> I do
13:47 < JTBurn> _NULL_: no not really. but its very funny to read your discussion :)
13:49 < esden> "Die Freundin ha"ngst Du abends einfach mit dem Kopf nach unten auf, das minimiert sa"mtliche sonderbaren Gera"usche." ROFL
13:49 * blindcoder .o0("He must be new here... if he doesn't know nullys oversized self-esteem :P")
13:53 < esden> blindcoder: he will know her shortly ... for sure ;-)
13:53 < blindcoder> esden: muahaha. as well as my too-large-for-this-channel ego :D
13:54 * -> esden takes out a lart and hits blindcoder's ego so it fits the channel ;-)
13:58 < JTBurn> when I could have your problems :)
13:58 < blindcoder> hehe, then you have A LOT of work ahead of you :P
13:59 < blindcoder> JTBurn: ah come on. just cry a bit. I'm currently out of "customars" so jsut go ahead :)
13:59 < esden> lol: Die Leute von SUN wu"rden es sicher merken, wenn sie statt der Sun Fire V280R mit Sun StorEdge A1000 Deine alte ZX81 mit externem Floppy-Laufwerk zuru"ckbekommen.
14:01 < JTBurn> lol
14:03 < n00kie> re :)
14:22 < blindcoder> *lol*
14:22 < blindcoder> esden: here's something greatly resembling fake
14:22 < blindcoder> esden:  Yelling "Get it off me! Get it off me!" might not have been the best reaction when your boss' 4-year-old daughter gave you a hug.
14:22 < n00kie> Good night
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14:27 < rolla> re
14:28 < esden> blindcoder: rofl ... where have you read that?
14:29 < blindcoder> esden: bbspot Geek Horoscope :)
14:29 < esden> aaaaha
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14:37 < martin> hello all
14:40 < blindcoder> hi martin
14:41 < martin> hi blindcoder
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14:46 < _NULL_> shutdown -r now
14:46 < _NULL_> AAAAAAAAAARGH!
14:50 < blindcoder> _NULL_: watch where you are typing that
14:50 < blindcoder> _NULL_: but that seems to be a problem with several women
14:50 < _NULL_> blindcoder: why?
14:51 < blindcoder> because my only female co-worker tried rebooting her machine and instead booted the e10k
14:51 < _NULL_> oops .
14:52 < _NULL_> aeh... someone can tell me, where i can find "login"?
14:53 < _NULL_> which package and so
14:54 < tfing> in the shadow package on my system
14:54 < _NULL_> ok... thx..
14:55 < rolla> is stage 1 coreutils fixed yet?
14:55 < _NULL_> hihi. now i can type my password in... that's better... thx
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15:02 < netrunner> re *fedup* ;)
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15:17 < _NULL_> *looool* open bugtraq -> IE is gone
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15:25 < _NULL_> hi dreamind , wb JTBurn
15:25 < JTBurn> re
15:35 < Mike1> moin.
15:38 < blindcoder> moin Mikey!
15:39 < _NULL_> hi Mike1
15:39 < Mike1> hi sed
15:39 < Mike1> blindy!
15:48 -!- ccm [~hago@mnch-d9ba49bb.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #rocklinux
15:48 < ccm> hallo!
15:49 < martin> hello ccm
15:49 < _NULL_> hi ccm
15:50 < ccm> oh, sorry! i forgott that only english is spoken here.. ;)
15:52 < JTBurn> did anybody know why sourceforget is down ??? and how long ???
15:56 < blindcoder>  sf is down?
15:57 < rolla> Mike1:
15:57 < _NULL_> not really... at least not here...
15:57 < Mike1> it isnt down for me
15:57 < daja77> re
15:57 < Mike1> JTBurn: maybe its related to routing problem..
15:58 < JTBurn> ? on your pc sf work ?
15:58 < Mike1> yes.
15:58 < ccm> hm... i've got an new prob with rocklinux.
15:59 < ccm> yesterday t downloaded an iso-image.
15:59 < ccm> i can boot it.
15:59 < ccm> then there is the prompt. ok. so far no problem.
15:59 < ccm> but i can't do a "fdsik"
16:00 < JTBurn> crazy. but anx other site is ok... so it cannot a be a prob with my router
16:00 < daja77> ccm: try stone
16:01 < blindcoder> ccm: cfdisk?
16:01 < ccm> no.
16:01 < ccm> command not found.
16:01 < ccm> i only booted the cd. is this normal?
16:05 < ccm> ah. i forgott to say that there is a script "Install". but wenn i want to run it, it says: install_bin not found!
16:06 -!- dichter [dichter@pD9E26C28.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
16:06 < dichter> hi
16:07 < Mike1> ccm: what ROCK Linux version are you trying to install?
16:08 < _NULL_> hi dichter O_o
16:08 < dichter> hi _NULL_
16:08 < ccm> 1.5.20
16:08 < _NULL_> *closing eyes*
16:08 < Mike1> ccm mmm..
16:08 < dichter> i have a trouble installing the 2.0.0b i686 - the cd will not boot
16:08 * blindcoder looks away in shame
16:08 < Mike1> where did you get such iso from?
16:09 < Mike1> blindcoder: ?
16:09 < ccm> from rock-linux.de
16:09 < dichter> 1.5.2 cooool *g*
16:09 < ccm> than, perhaps i should try a newer version.. *g*
16:09 < Mike1> dichter: the cd doesn;t boot at all or freezes somewhere?
16:10 < blindcoder> Mike1: nothing.... just some co-workers seem to want to make me jump out of the window
16:10 < Mike1> ccm: 1.5 and 1.6 are dead by now, i would suggest you to try 1.7/2.0 isos
16:10 < ccm> Latest iso: Rock-1.6.0-pre3
16:10 < ccm> hm.. ;)
16:10 < dichter> i have a machine were it dose not boot at all. The bios trys to boot from cd ("booting from cd: failure") and then carry on.
16:10 < ccm> where can i get these?
16:10 < Mike1> blindcoder: hey cool, ask him ti show you hope to jump first :)
16:10 < dichter> i have no trouble booting debian or suse
16:11 < Mike1> ccm: ftp://iso.rocklinux,de
16:11 < blindcoder> Mike1: good idea :D
16:12 < Mike1> dichter: very strange, maybe you should try to burn again the iso at a slower speed?
16:12 < daja77> *argh* this is a mess everybody reads the 1-6-0-pre3 is latest
16:12 < Mike1> dichter: i had similar problems in the past
16:12 < blindcoder> argh, again
16:12 < blindcoder> brb
16:12 < Mike1> daja77: it was the latest _uploaded_
16:12 < dichter> the drock-2.0.0beta boot however in my other machine.... i have the same symtoms with 1.6.0-pre3 and 1.6.0-pre4
16:12 < Mike1> i will write an email to Alexander
16:13 < daja77> Mike1: yeah please and tell hmi to point to rene's pages
16:13 < Mike1> dichter: you do... mmm... this very weird.
16:13 < dichter> agree
16:13 < Mike1> daja77: sure.
16:13 < Mike1> dichter: have you tried using a different cdrom on that box?
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16:13 < Mike1> mm..
16:13 < daja77> Mike1: btw I'm building minimal target :)
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16:14 < Mike1> you are welcome.
16:14 < dichter> ups
16:14 < dichter> i ve got the image from http://nexus.tfh-berlin.de/~drock/latest/2.0.0-beta/
16:14 < daja77> *gg*
16:14 < Mike1> daja77: cool! let me know if _anything_ brakes or miss behave
16:14 < dichter> did i missed something?
16:14 < Mike1> dichter: no.
16:15 < daja77> dichter: no it is just funny that nexus delivered several gb and rene's computer only a few images
16:15 < daja77> Mike1: I had problems downloading disktype
16:15 < daja77> there was a missing checksum in .desc
16:16 < dichter> daja: yea, but as far i recon, it was you, who gived me the url :-)
16:16 < dichter> who is building the iso's ?
16:16 < daja77> dichter: sure, proceed (it was rene who told me not to do so *gg*)
16:17 < daja77> dichter: rxr
16:17 < daja77> aka rene rebe
16:18 < esden> ahh centericq is nice ...
16:18 < daja77> why
16:19 < blindcoder> esden: centericq sucks :P
16:19 < esden> it is console based ... and I can run it on my server ... and it is the best console based interface for icq I have seen till now ...
16:19 < esden> blindcoder: you do not have to use it :P
16:19 < daja77> ts these kids here...
16:19 < blindcoder> but I also can't establish SSSL Connections to you now :P
16:19 < dichter> i ve tryed to make an cd copy from 1.6.0-pre4 using nero (just in case it was a problem with the 'color' of the cdr) - and nero quit telling me that there was en error in the structure of the cd with no 'end of the track'
16:19 < blindcoder> and licq is console based, too :P
16:19 < _NULL_> blindcoder: and it suckz
16:20 < blindcoder> _NULL_: *kick*
16:20 < esden> blindcoder: centericq supports ssl connections ...
16:20 < _NULL_> blindcoder: haha :p
16:20 < _NULL_> centericq is comfortable
16:20 < esden> blindcoder: the console based licq interface sucks
16:20 < martin> cu all
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16:21 < rolla> re esden
16:21 < ccm> ah. i see the problem. this is all in dRock. i was told that dRock is for desktop use, and i only want a console for building my server-os - so i haven't searched drock!
16:21 < blindcoder> SSL: could not connect to remote client
16:21 < daja77> ccm: consider using 2.0.0beta images
16:21 < daja77> rolla: hi
16:22 < esden> hi rolla 
16:23 < _NULL_> hi rolla
16:26 < dichter> cu all
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16:27 < Mike1> hi esden
16:27 < ccm> ok. let's have another try this evening.. ;)
16:27 < daja77> ccm: :)
16:27 * daja77 laughs
16:28 < rolla> re daja77
16:28 < ccm> i didn't look to the server before downloading, but on http://iso... ..an this is very irritating.. =)
16:28 < daja77> Mike1: got my bugreport= :)
16:29 < daja77> ccm: ack this is irritating
16:29 < esden> hmm ... there is still a lot to do with the web presence of rocklinux ... 
16:29 < esden> and we need more iso's on iso.rocklinux.de
16:30 < ccm> wenn i've the iso. do i have to proceed as described in: http://www.rocklinux.org//people/pjotr/guide.download/html/main.html#SECTION00075000000000000000 , or can i just start stone?
16:31 < daja77> ccm: wih the 2.0.0 beta you can just use stone
16:31 < Mike1> esden: you got a "typo" on the rock devs gallery
16:31 < Mike1> esden: you are muissing the 'mailto' for Alexander Saers
16:31 < Mike1> missing*
16:31 < daja77> ccm: and please report bugs if you found some, we have not much testing on install I guess
16:32 < ccm> deja77: thank you. i'll try. if it doesn't work, i'll come here again and get you on your nervs by asking questions.. *gg*
16:33 < ccm> i only need the first cd of drock2.0.0. when i only want a console?
16:33 < daja77> ccm: sure, I had some troubles with stone, but I am not sure, if this was due a broken build, so _Please_ come back
16:34 < esden> Mike1: thanks
16:35 < Mike1> esden: you are welcome my friend :)
16:35 < ccm> esden: you said you need more isos. i want try to build a version of rock for my server. should i keep the iso and upload it anywhere? (in the case i have success *g*)
16:35 < esden> Mike1: fixed
16:35 < Mike1> esden: good :)
16:35 < ccm> daja77: i'll come.. =)
16:36 < daja77> ccm: contact LocalHero for upload if you have an iso
16:36 < esden> ccm: when you have it post it on the mailinglist ... the right person will answer where to upload it ...
16:36 < daja77> hmm yeah or this
16:37 < esden> ccm: you will probably need both isos ... the inteligent assignment of packages to cd's is not done yet ... so sometimes core packages like coreutils or libc land on the second cd
16:38 < esden> ok ... taking a shower
16:39 < ccm> esden: i'll try it, when the first cd arrived!
16:39 < daja77> esden the shower guy
16:40 < blindcoder> hehe, he needs to be clean when I pop up :D
16:41 < daja77> lol
16:42 < ccm> when i can't find a package in the list i want to have on my iso, can i intigrate it?
16:43 < daja77> ccm: explain
16:44 < ccm> you have a lot of different packages in your tree in order to compile them when building the iso
16:44 < ccm> wenn i want a pice of software in my iso which is not in the tree: can i integrate it?
16:45 < daja77> create a package for it
16:45 < ccm> ok. this is possible.
16:45 < daja77> who is responsible for www2.rocklinux.de?
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16:49 < esden> re
16:49 < daja77> re esden
16:49 < Mike1> wb esden
16:49 * Mike1 faster :)
16:50 < daja77> Mike1: nope :p
16:50 < Mike1> ha!
16:50 < Mike1> daja77: don't worry i will let you win next time
16:50 < Mike1> :PP
16:50 < daja77> Mike1: i have won this time
16:51 < Mike1> nope :)
16:51 < Mike1> ah anyways back to src
16:51 < daja77> ahem it seems that our clients have sorted the messages differently
16:51 < Mike1> daja77: ok draw
16:51 < daja77> Mike1: pkg_src? *gg*
16:51 < Mike1> daja77: yeah
16:52 < daja77> great
16:54 < daja77> Mike the funny thing is that this sorting problem in realtime system was subject of last weeks lesson *g*
16:54 < Mike1> :)
16:55 < rolla> grrr
16:55 < daja77> rolla: ??
16:56 < esden> we can make a contest "who will greet esden faster" would do good for my ego ;-)
16:56 < daja77> esden: this not good with a clock resolution of one sceond
16:57 < daja77> second
16:58 * daja77 hates personized spam
16:58 < esden> daja77: who does?
16:59 < ccm> you are not alone!
16:59 < daja77> esden: dunno, need an example?
16:59 < esden> daja77: I know personalized spam I think ... 
16:59 < daja77> ok this one is ugly anyway
17:00 * daja77 deleting...
17:00 < esden> hmm ... rlml is pretty quiet today ...
17:01 < daja77> I could forward some spam :)
17:01 < rolla> daja77: just dumb SAP crap
17:01 < _NULL_> <-- train. cya
17:01 < Mike1> esden: echo "Hello all" | mail rock-linux@rocklinux.org
17:01 < daja77> _NULL_: cu
17:01 < daja77> rolla: hehe
17:01 * netrunner just ordered new board+2 athlons :)
17:02 < esden> re netrunner 
17:02 < blindcoder> for x in `seq 1 65000` ; do echo "meep" | mail -s "Hello $x" rock-linux@rocklinux.org ; done
17:02 < blindcoder> :D
17:02 < Mike1> netrunner: athlons XP?
17:02 < esden> netrunner: how much do you pay?
17:02 < Mike1> blindcoder: :PP
17:02 < netrunner> mike: those mp things, 2400+
17:02 < Mike1> esden: looks like netrunner is rich...
17:02 < netrunner> esden: yet nothing :)
17:02 < Mike1> netrunner: MP or XP?
17:03 < esden> ok ... then how much will you pay?
17:03 < netrunner> mike: has to be mp hasn't it?
17:03 < Mike1> netrunner: :)
17:04 < netrunner> esden: 169 eur each cpu, 239 the board, 108 for each of the 2 hdds (never ever no raid1 again) and 69 for each of the 512MB DDRs
17:04 < ccm> when a package is marked with an asterix: can't i build it, or could it work for me?
17:04 < netrunner> esden: still missing the case and the graka... guess I'll snipe a g450 at ebay
17:04 < Mike1> esden: indeed netrunner_is_ RICH
17:05 -!- LocalHero [~alexander@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux
17:05 < netrunner> mike: no, just didn't buy a new computer for 4 years now.
17:05 < LocalHero> Hi all
17:05 < esden> netrunner: you are rich
17:05 < Mike1> LocalHero: great that you are here i was about to email you
17:06 < esden> hi LocalHero 
17:07 < LocalHero> Mike1: , oki.. What have i done.. RUNNNAWAYYY!
17:07 < daja77> hi LocalHero
17:07 < netrunner> esden: not quite :( but I think it's better to buy a computer that lasts several years. like my current server works about 5 years now.
17:07 < Mike1> LocalHero: could you please change that "The latest iso: 1.6.0pre3"?
17:07 < Mike1> LocalHero: it is confusing people
17:07 < LocalHero> Mike1:, sure but right now it is based on the latest added iso. So give me a 2.x to put there :)
17:07 < ccm> hehe
17:07 < Mike1> i would suggest you to point Rene's papers, and 1.7 / 2.0 isos
17:07 < Mike1> LocalHero: when you have 2.0 betas on your ftp...
17:07 < Mike1> s/when/well
17:07 < LocalHero> Well, i know that there are some desktop betas there. I will fix the site later tonigth :-).. Need to get kde up and running
17:08 < Mike1> forget about kde, fix the site :)
17:08 < daja77> hehe
17:08 < LocalHero> Dahh, I have run kde konstruct on a computer but it cant find a file in kdepim package :(
17:08 < Mike1> LocalHero: i know how to fix it
17:08 < Mike1> use gnome :)
17:08 < LocalHero> Hehe :)... You realy want me to stop compiling kde and fix the site :)
17:09 < n00kie>  Hola Mike1 :)
17:09 < LocalHero> oki i could remove the line with the latest iso for start :)
17:09 -!- ccm is now known as ccm_microcontrol
17:09 * netrunner sold his car for this new pc :)
17:09 < esden> ccm_microcontrol: are you running your rock builds on a microcontroller?
17:09 < ccm_microcontrol> i'll be back to ask new questions in a few hours.. ;)
17:09 < n00kie> netrunner: I would do too
17:09 < ccm_microcontrol> esden: would be kewl.. *g*
17:10 < esden> yes a microcontroller cluster ;-)
17:10 < ccm_microcontrol> hehe
17:10 < ccm_microcontrol> there are already different linux-based os's for microcontroller's!
17:11 < esden> uclinux for example
17:11 < esden> or elks
17:12 < daja77> esden: i talked to guys at university, They thought of building an arm cluster (no funding)
17:12 < daja77> several 1000 cpus
17:12 < LocalHero> Mike1: done
17:12 < ccm_microcontrol> jap.
17:12 < ccm_microcontrol> but uclinux needs too much power!
17:12 < esden> daja77: the problem is the communication between them ...
17:13 < daja77> esden: gigabit ethernet?
17:13 < esden> daja77: when you use 1000 cpus then the network between them must be several gigabit wide
17:13 < daja77> or myrinet stuff
17:13 < esden> lool
17:13 < daja77> esden: ??
17:13 < esden> yes arm's connected with myrinet network ... lol
17:14 < daja77> I don't know if this can work
17:14 < LocalHero> Ahh, now, could anybody help me with kde?
17:14 < esden> LocalHero: do nat ask me ... I do not use/like kde
17:14 < daja77> Mike will be pleased to help *ggg*
17:14 * daja77 runs away
17:15 < LocalHero> Hehe, oki, i get the point :)
17:15 < daja77> rxr is into kde, but he is not here
17:16 * daja77 waiting for slow checkout >_<
17:19 < rolla> daja77: I have 1.7 running on my k6-3 now :)
17:23 < daja77> rolla: congrats, any chance you like it now?
17:28 < Mike1> LocalHero: thx
17:30 < esden> netrunner: have you already used the cd's I gave you?
17:31 < LocalHero> Wow, i got it working (for a while at least :)
17:31 < Mike1> esden: were you talking about elks??????
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17:32 < Mike1> esden: were you talking about elks?
17:32 < esden> Mike1: yes
17:32 < Mike1> esden: what about it?
17:33 * Mike1 elks dev
17:33 < daja77> hi jose
17:35 < n00kie> howdy jose
17:35 < rolla> daja77: I am not liking it right now
17:36 < rolla> daja77: way too much like BSD :(
17:38 < LocalHero> I havent checked rock 1.7-2.x out for a while. Is it possible to make an iso yet?
17:38 < daja77> hahaha I survived
17:39 < Mike1> LocalHero: yes.
17:39 * daja77 got his exam in computer graphics and may proceed in his studies
17:39 * Mike1 shoot a missile to daja77
17:39 < LocalHero> Mike1: When i say possible i mean that i dont want to go into an asambler debugging entering ones and zeros :)
17:39 * daja77 hides under bush's reflector
17:40 < Mike1> <daja77> Mike will be pleased to help *ggg* <------
17:40 < daja77> rolla: you like bsd, which?
17:40 < Mike1> LocalHero: sure its possible
17:40 < daja77> Mike1: hehe just teasing you a bit
17:40 < Mike1> daja77: playing with your life again huh?
17:40 < LocalHero> Mike1: Great. Better set ut a test envirement :)
17:40 < Mike1> LocalHero: ack :)
17:40 < daja77> Mike1: *loool*
17:41 < rolla> daja77: No I hate BSD style crap
17:41 < daja77> ACK
17:41 < rolla> daja77: I like SV type
17:41 < daja77> sv??
17:41 < rolla> damn /sbin/init.d crap needs to go
17:41 < rolla> daja77: system 5
17:41 < daja77> ah yes, /me likes minit (but not running it now)
17:43 < daja77> Mike1: you know apache2?
17:43 < Mike1> daja77: more or less, i am better at 1.5, why ?
17:43 < rolla> daja77: I know apache2
17:44 < daja77> ah good, can you tell me why I don't get a query string for my php scripts
17:45 < rolla> ? sounds like a php problem :)
17:45 < esden> Mike1: nothing importaint ... I know someone using it on his 8086 and 286 laptops
17:45 < esden> he has some of them ... and runs elks on them
17:45 < rolla> php had issues with apache2 I am not sure if they are fixed
17:45 < esden> Mike1: when you are an elks developer why have you not yet created an elks target in rocklinux?
17:46 < LocalHero> If you dont have any reason to use apache 2.x you should stick with 1.x if you are using php
17:46 < Mike1> esden: yeah Uwe..
17:46 < esden> ack
17:46 < Mike1> esden: i will try to something for rock with elks
17:46 < Mike1> its just a whole different thing
17:47 < esden> I know ... but rock could build that too
17:47 < esden> or a uclinux based system
17:47 < esden> we finally need other kernels besides linux
17:47 < n00kie> Do you mean like Hurd?
17:47 < esden> as it came up in the talk
17:48 < esden> n00kie: for example
17:48 < esden> or a bsd kernel ;-)
17:48 < Mike1> esden: sure i know, the thing is that elks is more than justa kernel
17:48 < Mike1> esden: but i will order some ideas and try something
17:48 < daja77> esden: NO! no bsd crap kernel in rock please
17:48 < esden> we should rename rocklinux to ROCK-DBK
17:49 < Mike1> esden: talking about Gnu / Hurd, i know one of the developers, and we are ordering some ideas to actually port Hurd to rock
17:49 < esden> and split bit more from the targets ... so that the idea of a DBK comes more to light
17:49 < esden> or so ...
17:50 < esden> this idea is not compleatly thought through
17:50 < esden> so do not kill me immediatly
17:50 < Mike1> esden: somehow i got the feeling that i am leaving my 'Updates guy' name and becomeing the 'targets guy'  ...
17:50 * daja77 gives a bottle of wine to the chan to celebrate my victory
17:51 * Mike1 takes the bottle 
17:51 < daja77> Mike1: you are a moving target...
17:51 < Mike1> daja77: luckly
17:51 < jose> daja77 & n00kie: hi!
17:52 < esden> daja77: so he is harder to hit ... that is an advantage ;-)
17:52 < daja77> esden: hehe yeah
17:52 * jose is a little busy! :-(
17:54 < esden> hi jose 
17:58 < Mike1> esden, daja77 i can't be moving all the time let me have a rest !
17:58 < daja77> ok :))
17:59 < n00kie> Brb, dinner.
18:00 < Mike1> enjoy n00kie
18:00 < daja77> dinner that early *g*
18:00 < n00kie> ty Mike1 :)
18:00 < Mike1> :)
18:01 * daja77 off to a seminar cu
18:01 < Mike1> cu daja77
18:01 < daja77> ;)
18:02 < LocalHero> Need to get some food, cya
18:03 < esden> Mike1: ok
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18:03 < esden> Mike1: stop moving, breathing, beating your heart ... all that is using up too much energy ;-)
18:04 < Mike1> esden: arrgg!
18:05 < esden> *GG*
18:08 < jose> esden: hi!
18:10 * rolla needs some food too
18:10 < rolla> but it is too early for it :(
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18:14 < Mike1> hi Lorini
18:14 < netrunner> esden: not yet.
18:14 < esden> netrunner: hmpf
18:14 < n00kie> re (:
18:16 < netrunner> esden: and I cannot even say I'll do it tonight because they didn't skip the bladenight and I am subscribed as guard.
18:17 < esden> ohh ... but it will rain for sure!!!
18:17 < netrunner> esden: I know. maybe I'll only go there, sign the presence-list and go back :)
18:19 < esden> loool
18:19 < esden> netrunner: you cheeter!
18:20 < netrunner> esden: yeah, I always sign for 4 people anyway ;)
18:24 < esden> *headshake*
18:30 * netrunner -> bladenight
18:33 < rxr> 2re
18:33 < Mike1> hi ren
18:33 < esden> netrunner: have fun ;-)
18:33 < esden> re rxr 
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18:38 < rolla> re rxr
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18:42 < n00kie> bbl, working :)
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18:47 < rxr> the gcc people are really boring ...
18:47 < esden> ?
18:50 < rxr> they answer to my mail that is is not possible to do it this way anymore (which I complained about in my mail) without refering to the recent instructions ....
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18:57 < rolla> rxr is there a patch coming for stage-1 coreutils build problem?
18:57 < Mike1> rolla: the funny thing is that i have no problems with coreutils in stage1
18:57 < Mike1> only in stage3
18:58 < Mike1> and i provided rxr a patch to fix my problem, ur problem is a whole new thing for me.. :(
18:58 < rolla> crap
18:59 < Mike1> rolla: still i am thinking..
18:59 < Mike1> we will fix it
19:00 < rolla> okay
19:00 < rolla> but also work on that alpha :)
19:00 < Mike1> i am :)
19:00 < rolla> if I have time I setup the other spare alpha and we cluster the builds
19:00 < Mike1> rolla: that would rock :)
19:00 < rolla> maybe we cluster on all 3
19:01 < Mike1> rolla: what about the other 2?
19:01 < rolla> Mike1: one is waiting for the rock iso to build on
19:01 < Mike1> rolla: would it be possible to install debian on one of them
19:01 < Mike1> i feel more confortable building on debian than on redhat
19:01 < rolla> Mike1: sure i think I have that somewhere
19:02 < rolla> :P
19:02 < Mike1> rolla please do so
19:02 < rolla> Mike1: I can rebuild dysk as debian
19:02 < rolla> that will take time
19:02 < Mike1> define time
19:02 < rolla> lunch
19:02 < rolla> Mike1: I have never install debian at all
19:02 < rolla> and not on alpha
19:02 < Mike1> rolla: well its quite easy
19:03 < Mike1> and i am here if you have questions :)
19:03 < Mike1> rolla: today i will get the src and packages for the build
19:03 < rolla> okay
19:03 < Mike1> hopefully tonight you can install debian on dysk
19:04 < rolla> Mike1: sure but then I must setup named on it :)
19:04 < rolla> Mike1: for you I will do this
19:08 < Mike1> rolla: comeon i can setup named in minutes
19:09 < Mike1> :P
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19:23 * rxr fige me some of those damn gcc people - please!
19:23 < rxr> f/fige/give/ ...
19:23 < rxr> well -f +s ...
19:24 < esden> rxr: what have they messed up this time?
19:27 < rxr> cross compiler script of ROCK does not work with gcc-3.3 anymore ...
19:27 < rxr> they only complain that noone is willing to write a new document about this - but do not tell me the one arguemtn I have to change ...
19:27 < rxr> damn folk
19:31 < esden> hmm ... /me reaches a lart over to rxr 
19:31 * -> esden off for swimming
19:35 * rxr updateing binuitls (should include a fix for ppc I ran into ...)
19:40 < rxr> Yeah:
19:40 < rxr> == 19:33:41 =[0]=> Building base/gccx [20030508 2.0.0-beta3].
19:40 < rxr> -> Reading package configuration from package directory.
19:40 < rxr> -> Preparing build in src.gccx.1052760810.21628.3472168932
19:40 < rxr> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/0-gccx.out
19:40 < rxr> -> $root/var/adm/logs/0-gccx.out -> 0-gccx.log
19:40 < rxr> == 05/12/03 19:41:47 =[0]=> Finished building package gccx.
19:40 < rxr> ^- fix by a wild gues on my side - since the damn gcc folks where unable to contribute a usefull sentence about the issue ...
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19:48 < _NULL_> re
19:52 < n00kie> wb _NULL_
19:52 < _NULL_> thx n00kie
19:55 < rolla> re
19:58 < _NULL_> wb rolla
20:00 < rolla> :)
20:08 < rolla> what is new with you _NULL_ ?
20:08 < rolla> anyone seen th?
20:08 < _NULL_> rolla: hm. new *thinking* life = shit - aeh... nope. that's not new... and in your life?
20:09 < rolla> doing well
20:09 < _NULL_> rolla: nope. he's not in #rocklinux . but in irc...
20:10 < rolla> yeah I see that
20:10 < rolla> I just have not seen him for some time
20:12 < _NULL_> that is because he has an unstable inet connection...
20:14 < rolla> oh
20:14 < rolla> that sucks
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20:25 < zer0_o> hi all
20:26 < _NULL_> rolla: ack
20:26 < _NULL_> hi zer0_o
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20:30 < ccm_microcontrol> now only 130mb and burning one cdrom are deviding me from asking new, silly questions.. =)
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21:35 < rolla> I am bored now
21:35 < rolla> My network connection sucks pulling down debian :(
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21:36 < _NULL_> rolla: bored? tstststst. there are still bugs available which needs to be fixed :p
21:37 < rolla> yeah but I have no skills
21:38 < _NULL_> rolla: tststst. get skills. use lfs :ppp
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21:40 * Mike1 laughts
21:40 < rolla> whatever
21:40 < rolla> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
21:40 < _NULL_> Mike1: why?
21:40 < _NULL_> rolla: *hrhr* why not?
21:40 < Mike1> shit emergnecy brb
21:40 < _NULL_> bye Mike1
21:42 < Mike1> ready
21:42 < Mike1> _NULL_: rolla does have skills
21:43 < Mike1> _NULL_: and honestly lfs needs no skills, i think any script kiddie can use it
21:44 < _NULL_> Mike1: blllll :p
21:45 < Mike1> of course i am just a linux newbie and could be mistaken..
21:45 < _NULL_> Mike1: ack :)
21:45 < Mike1> maybe you want to teach me?
21:46 < _NULL_> Mike1: sure *hrhr*
21:46 < Mike1> ok i am ready. teach me.
21:47 < _NULL_> linux - this is something you can install on your pc. so... it's almost the same as windows... you know. this colored and great operating system of microsoft...
21:47 < Mike1> what is windows?
21:48 < Mike1> will linux run on my RISC?
21:48 < _NULL_> +Hrml* *thinking*
21:48 < rolla> not sure
21:48 < Mike1> _NULL_: Does have support for 64bit microprocessors and tcp/ipx networking?
21:49 < _NULL_> sure...
21:50 < Mike1> _NULL_: do you promisse?
21:50 < _NULL_> yes... :p
21:50 < Mike1> cool
21:50 < Mike1> *vbeg*
21:51 < capchaos> mike you're mean ;p
21:51 < _NULL_> do you want to give me 10 000 $ for this lesson? ;)
21:52 < Mike1> capchaos: why mean? i am just asking inocent questions..
21:53 < capchaos> Mike1: get me a 64bit alpha or sparc and i will get linux to run on it ;-)
21:55 < capchaos> (with _NULL_'s assistance of course)
21:55 < Mike1> _NULL_: so i can have ipv8 over my token ring network, even if my RISC has a 2 micropocessors, and my NIC only support tcp/ipx under tcpa?
21:55 < _NULL_> Mike1: sure.
21:55 < Mike1> _NULL_: exacellent :)
21:55 < _NULL_> even ipv10 will be supported...
21:56 < _NULL_> but only if you give me 100 000 000 $ for integrating this...
21:56 < _NULL_> Mike1: yes. now i want the money :)
21:57 < Mike1> i won't pay because you are faking me
21:57 < _NULL_> me? faking?
21:57 < _NULL_> never....
21:57 < capchaos> Mike1: how do you know. you're innocent?
21:58 < Mike1> capchaos: rolla told me
21:58 < _NULL_> Mike1: i thought he has no skills?
21:59 < Mike1> _NULL_: maybe someone else told him
21:59 < _NULL_> Mike1: i c :)
21:59 < daja77> re
21:59 < _NULL_> wb daja77
22:00 < Mike1> _NULL_: Master daja77 has the skills
22:00 < _NULL_> Mike1: i tell you a secret... daja77 isn't innocent...
22:01 < _NULL_> aeh. you stealed my words! that's not fair *cries*
22:01 < Mike1> _NULL_: sure he lost his 'inocense' long time ago
22:01 < daja77> thx _NULL_
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22:01 < daja77> Mike1: what are talking about
22:02 < _NULL_> daja77: nothing, nothing...
22:02 < _NULL_> Mike1: eh, don't tell him, otherwise you and me will be killed
22:03 < rolla> re daja77
22:03 * daja77 conbfused
22:03 < daja77> re rolla
22:03 < Mike1> daja77: you have been upgraded to Master level
22:03 < daja77> aha
22:04 < _NULL_> daja77: scrollback
22:04 * capchaos renders homage to daja77 
22:04 < daja77> *gna* I did this is still confusing but wait
22:04 < _NULL_> daja77: haha
22:05 * daja77 laughs
22:05 < _NULL_> Mike1: what do you think... should we make some other poeple confused? like blindcoder and esden =
22:05 < _NULL_> ?
22:05 < daja77> thx capchaos
22:06 < Mike1> _NULL_: no, i am already too confused
22:06 < _NULL_> Mike1: *g*
22:06 < Mike1> newbies like me can't understand so quick
22:06 < daja77> Mike1: do I need bootdisk target for minimal?
22:06 < _NULL_> Mike1: i c. poor newbie
22:06 < daja77> hehehe
22:06 < Mike1> daja77: yes.
22:07 * daja77 building bootdisk target
22:07 < Mike1> _NULL_: 5p34k 1337?
22:07 * daja77 waiting to annoy rene with bugreports...
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22:07 < rolla> b4k4
22:07 < n00kie> Have Fun, daja77 :)
22:07 < _NULL_> Mike1: nope. don't speak it...
22:07 < daja77> n00kie: yeah
22:07 < Mike1> rolla: :)
22:08 < ccm> ok. rock is down. let's have a burningsession.. ;)
22:08 < capchaos> burning rocks? :)
22:08 < daja77> ccm: have fun
22:08 < rxr> re
22:09 < Mike1> welcome back rxr
22:09 < capchaos> hi rene
22:09 < daja77> wb rxr
22:09 < n00kie> wb rxr
22:09 < _NULL_> wb rxr
22:10 < daja77> and now the choir:
22:10 < Mike1> i once thought of a ROCK Logo, it was a bunch of Penguins standing at a huge stone, throwing rocks to Bill gates, and bill running away been hit by the rocks
22:10 < rxr> Mike1: lol
22:11 < n00kie> lol Mike1
22:11 < Mike1> rxr: i see you visualized it :)
22:11 < n00kie> me too :)
22:11 < daja77> Mike1: what about a smashed window?
22:11 < rxr> I now responded to the gcc folks with a working code fragment mentioning the ROCK gcc builds scripts for a proper cross-build example ...
22:11 < Mike1> daja77: nah i prefer seen bill run :)
22:11 < daja77> Mike1: xbill player?
22:12 < daja77> there is only one thing wrong with xbill...
22:13 < Mike1> daja77: certainly
22:13 < JTBurn> Mike1: the logo seems to be very fantastic
22:13 < daja77> windows is displayed as a virus, but a virus is small and efficient...
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22:13 < daja77> hi mnemoc
22:13 < mnemoc> hi
22:14 < Mike1> any graphis freak willing to create my logo? :)
22:14 < zer0_o> what logo ?
22:14 < mnemoc> your logo for what?
22:14 < daja77> rxr: I will have a clean build of rev 177 in some hours and will test install then
22:14 < capchaos> depends on the payment ;)
22:14 < daja77> capchaos: frog pills
22:15 < Mike1> capchaos: hey!
22:15 < Mike1> :)
22:15 < capchaos> hey mikey! :)
22:15 < zer0_o> =)
22:15 < Mike1> 0_o
22:16 < Mike1> Sascha :)
22:16 < zer0_o> o_0
22:16 < zer0_o> Mike =)
22:16 < Mike1> (*)(*)
22:16 < daja77> lol
22:16 * zer0_o laughts
22:16 < daja77> ($)($)
22:17 < capchaos> (·)(·) *g*
22:17 < daja77> capchaos: owl eyes (O)(O)
22:18 < n00kie> Psychotic eyes @_@
22:18 * zer0_o touches capchaos' .. .uhm .. things... to prove reallity..
22:18 < Mike1> you freaks
22:18 < Mike1> :P
22:19 < daja77> Mike1: shut up && code :p
22:19 < capchaos>  ____________________
22:19 < capchaos> ( Eyes? Where? What? )
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22:19 < capchaos>     o     __________
22:19 < capchaos>      o   / ___  ___ \
22:19 < capchaos>       o / / @ \/ @ \ \
22:19 < capchaos>         \ \___/\___/ /
22:19 < capchaos>          \____\/____/
22:19 < capchaos>          /     /\\\\\
22:19 < capchaos>          |     |\\\\\\
22:19 < capchaos>           \      \\\\\\
22:19 < capchaos>            \______/\\\\
22:19 < capchaos>             _||_||_
22:19 < capchaos>              __ __
22:19 < zer0_o> isn't that normal?
22:19 < Mike1> aarrggg!! ok this was flooding
22:19 < capchaos> sorry
22:20 < Mike1> capchaos: what are you doing with a picture of owl?
22:20 < Mike1> *g
22:20 < zer0_o> LOL
22:20 < ccm> let's have a try!
22:21 < capchaos> hanging it out in my bedroom, mikey
22:21 < Mike1> mmm.. dirty boy
22:22 < _NULL_> hehehe :)
22:23 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E49F26.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
22:23 < zer0_o> hi tcr
22:23 < tcr> moin all
22:24 < zer0_o> my bodies' sleeping.. but not my mind..
22:24 < _NULL_> hi tcr
22:24 < zer0_o> can't move any more than fingers..
22:25 < n00kie> hi tcr
22:26 < zer0_o> need to go to bed.. have fun all.. cu
22:26 < _NULL_> gn8 zer0_o
22:27 < tcr> gn8
22:27 < zer0_o> n8 _NULL_, *smack*
22:27 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-be-10-1-dialup-206.freesurf.ch] has quit ("sleep")
22:27 < ccm> stone runs and runs and runs.. ;)
22:28 < daja77> hi tcr
22:28 < ccm> one time i killed it with "strg-c" and now the blue and grey is changed a bit.
22:28 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M293P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer))
22:29 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M270P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux
22:29 < daja77> *argh* n00kie quitting and joining in three chans
22:29 < n00kie> sorry
22:29 < n00kie> i had problems with my connection
22:29 < Mike1> daja77: LOL!
22:29 < n00kie> i hate this disconnectw
22:29 < n00kie> i hate this disconnects
22:30 < Mike1> np
22:30 < tcr> ccm: Where/When did you press ctrl-c?
22:30 < ccm> within the package-selection
22:31 * daja77 prefers alt+f4
22:31 < tcr> ccm: Hmm, that signal should be caught actually
22:31 < ccm> yea. it was no problem.
22:31 < ccm> only the colors got wrong when starting stone again.
22:31 * Mike1 prefrers 'kill' :)
22:31 < ccm> no real problem!
22:31 < daja77> ccm: this is a feature :p
22:32 < ccm> hehe
22:32 < Mike1> *g
22:32 < ccm> now let's see if disk one is enough for a minimal setup!
22:32 < tcr> ccm: Whenever that happens again, just type `reset'
22:32 < ccm> will this cause a reboot?
22:33 < daja77> O_o
22:33 < tcr> No, just a reset if your terminal to its default settings
22:33 < ccm> i'm sorry for my non-knowledge...
22:33 < tcr> s,if,of,
22:33 < ccm> ok. thank's.
22:33 < daja77> ccm: don't worry you can learn much with rock
22:33 < tcr> Ack
22:34 < ccm> that's what i want.
22:35 < ccm> hm. shit happens. he want's cd 2!
22:35 < daja77> ccm: I feared that
22:35 < ccm> dirtree sounds real important.. ;)
22:35 * daja77 getting hungry
22:36 < Mike1> eat..
22:36 < daja77> hmnm too lazy to cook...
22:36 < tcr> Let cook!
22:36 < ccm> it looks like installing alphabetical. the installer is @zip32. what happens if i scipp?
22:37 < daja77> yeah tcr cook for me!
22:37 < tcr> daja77: I cannot cook! :P
22:37 < daja77> hehe nobody taught you?
22:37 < Mike1> daja77: now that i remeber... haven't we already stated that, tcr was one of your slaves?
22:38 < daja77> Mike1: yeah you enslaved him...
22:38 < tcr> Bah physical nourishment, what a degenerated type!
22:38 < Mike1> daja77: yeah true :)
22:38 < ccm> oh. he only can't find the *.gem files. what is this? is this a kind of (prüfsummen)file?
22:38 < Mike1> daja77: you can have capchaos and _NULL_ too if you want
22:39 < daja77> hmmmm........
22:39 < Mike1> ccm: .gem files are the rock linxu packages
22:39 < daja77> ccm: gem is the package
22:39 < daja77> *argh* this time you were faster :P
22:40 < ccm> oh. and what did he all the time? he already said he would install something.
22:40 < Mike1> daja77: i already stated that i am faster
22:40 < Mike1> :P
22:40 < daja77> Mike1: the last time it wasn't true :ppp
22:41 < Mike1> :P
22:41 < daja77> ccm: he is waiting for the other gems to install
22:41 < tcr> he???
22:41 < daja77> it, sorry
22:41 < tcr> Guys, C'm on... stone is mighty, but not the almighty
22:42 < daja77> stone is mighty, huh?
22:42 < tcr> Shut up, was just a miserable pun! ;)
22:42 * Mike1 gives a deep look at tcr and shakes head
22:42 < ccm> looks like he had umounted the cdrom! - that's why he can't find anything.
22:43 < daja77> tcr: you had better jokes...
22:43 < daja77> ccm: it is an it not a he
22:43 < tcr> daja77: Well, wasn't supposed to be joke about what you can love... just a pun... to better the ambiance ;)
22:43 < daja77> hehe
22:44 * Mike1 close eyes and shakes head.
22:44 < tcr> Mike1 is doing yoga?
22:44 < tcr> Or some other meditative stuff?
22:44 < daja77> like madonna...
22:45 < tcr> Yea
22:45 < ccm> daja77: but "it" has a name! - so you can say he or she. she can't be because "it" thinks rational.. > so it's HE *ggg*
22:45 < Mike1> grrr
22:45 * Mike1 is disapointed tahts all
22:45 < daja77> Mike1: ???
22:45 < tcr> Mike1: Good, that was our purpose!
22:45 < daja77> hehe
22:45 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting")
22:45 < daja77> O_o
22:46 < tcr> "Einmal AK immer AK" We're so evil, daja77 ;)
22:47 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux
22:47 < daja77> ah good wb Mike1
22:47 < rxr> hi daja77
22:47 < Mike1> thx daja77
22:48 < daja77> rxr: read you had trouble
22:48 < tcr> Mike1: Does your meaning have any deeper meaning? Maybe anything we can debate about?
22:49 < tcr> Oups, that makes great sense
22:49 < Mike1> tcr: sure
22:49 < tcr> s,meaning,leaving,1
22:49 < daja77> tcr: what crap editor you are usning
22:49 < tcr> Hm?
22:49 < Mike1> tcr: can't take the fact that ua re supposed to be a rock dev and still come with crappy comments of it..
22:50 < Mike1> tcr: it doesn't look good.
22:50 < Mike1> anyways is just the way i think so, i don't want to make a debate on this.
22:50 < tcr> Mike1?
22:51 * Mike1 back to code.
22:51 < Mike1> tcr: its not important ok
22:52 -!- Caspar [~steven261@M094P004.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux
22:52 < tcr> Ok... I just wonder, now when null seens to be normal, someone else must try to substitute her...
22:53 < Mike1> tcr: sure, you are been such a great replacement.
22:53 < rxr> daja77: which trouble ?
22:54 < daja77> *argh* would you please stop this senseless bashing
22:54 < daja77> rxr: gcc
22:54 < Mike1> sure
22:54 < daja77> rxr: have you tested your isos btw?
22:54 < rxr> yes - please - not stupid bashing
22:54 < ccm> as i see the problem: stone doesn't find the mountpoint of my sources in /etc/mtab (which i can't change due to a read-only fs). so IT tries to umount the cdrom. --> it can't find the package. (but it exists)
22:54 < rxr> daja77: which iso ?
22:54 * Mike1 offers hand to tcr 
22:54 < rxr> the -beta2 ?
22:54 < daja77> rxr: yours
22:54 < rxr> daja77: I HAVE MANY ...
22:55 < daja77> rxr: don't scream, I just wanna know if you test them on an empty box or so
22:55 < rxr> yes I test them
22:55 < rxr> this is why the -beta2 took so long - because of the many rebuild files where missing
22:56 < daja77> ok so I'll do too :)
22:56 < rxr> and I had to rebuild and fix even more ...
22:56 < tcr> Mike1: I really don't know what that all is about ?-) And you dont seem to care much, so why should I do...
22:56 < rxr> daja77: this is why I plugged the CRT so often into another box during the ISO schedules ...
22:56 < Mike1> tcr: ok as you wish. no one can tell i tryed to make peaces.
22:56 < tcr> ccm: Hmm, did you symlink from /proc/mounts to /etc/mtab?
22:56 < daja77> ah ic :)
22:57 * rxr the damn vmware did not worked with the kernel's I tried - so another box was used ...
22:58 < daja77> I hope that some errors i had were due an unclean build (will try again when bootdisk target is ready
22:58 < daja77> )
22:59 < mnemoc> hi rxr :) ... can you hand-fix [D] of nikolaus' cantus? he forgot the checksum field
22:59 < ccm> tcr: no. i didn't. should i have?
22:59 < rxr> mnemoc: ack
22:59 < mnemoc> tahnks
22:59 < tcr> ccm: Hmm, try it out...
22:59 < rxr> mnemoc: done
23:01 < mnemoc> that was fast
23:01 < daja77> i quite like the speed of rxr
23:02 < rxr> mnemoc: hm - but the scripts seem to have problems with the ? or so in the URL
23:02 * rxr investigating
23:06 < rolla> re
23:07 < daja77> re rolla
23:08 < rolla> how is it going daja77
23:10 < daja77> well it is ok, I passed an exam, had nice lectures, and gonna have dinner soon
23:13 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD958837B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
23:13 < tsa> hi all
23:14 < daja77> hi tsa
23:18 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E49F26.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("gn8 all")
23:21 < ccm> i'll let wget get cd2 this night and have another try tomorrow!
23:22 < Mike1> == 05:15:06 =[0]=> Building base/glibc23 [2.3.2 2.0.0-beta3].
23:22 < Mike1> == 05/13/03 05:21:35 =[0]=> Finished building package glibc23.
23:23 < mnemoc> 6 minutes? :'(
23:23 < Mike1> mnemoc: how long do you take?
23:23 < mnemoc> 8-10 times that
23:24 < mnemoc> bbl :'(
23:24 -!- ccm [~hago@mnch-d9ba456d.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit ("cya")
23:24 < Mike1> ARRG! binutils is broken..
23:24 < Mike1> mnemoc: urgs
23:32 < mnemoc> it's updated.... did you download the last?
23:33 < Mike1> mnemoc: the ppc32 patch its braking it
23:33 < Mike1> grrr
23:34 < Mike1> mnemoc: it was 198 i think
23:34 < Mike1> or 187
23:34 -!- Be-El [be-el@pD9E119A9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
23:34 < Be-El> hi ppl
23:35 < Mike1> mnemoc: i am running i mean 197*
23:35 < Mike1> mnemoc: just to make you jealous:
23:35 < Mike1> == 05:29:36 =[0]=> Building base/gcc3 [3.2.3 2.0.0-beta3].
23:35 < Mike1> == 05/13/03 05:32:38 =[0]=> Finished building package gcc3.
23:35 < Mike1> :))
23:36 < n00kie> very fast :)
23:36 < Mike1> == 05:34:37 =[1]=> Building base/linux24-src [2.4.21-rc1 2.0.0-beta3].
23:36 < Mike1> == 05/13/03 05:35:46 =[1]=> Finished building package linux24-src.
23:36 < Mike1> yes :)
23:37 < Mike1> geez i am loving this box
23:37 < Mike1> :)
23:37 * n00kie thinks back to the times, when he builded programs on a 486er/DX with 100mhz
23:38 * rxr phoned with cliff
23:39 < Mike1> rxr: greetings to cliff from /me :)
23:39 < n00kie> me too =)
23:39 < rxr> ;-) Jups the next time ...
23:40 < rxr> so I'll apply the patches from the list ...
23:40 < rxr> btw. the new binutils packages compiles on x86 ;-)
23:40 < rxr> esden: are you here ?
23:40 < rxr> Mike1: yes - already fixed
23:40 < Mike1> rxr: ah ok good
23:40 < rxr> could you do a svn up and rebuild it ;-)
23:41 < rxr> Mike1: which target do you build - with which optimization ?
23:41 < netrunner> Mike: I still need 8h for glibc. New box ordered today :)
23:41 < Mike1> rxr: i am running 9 builds currently
23:41 < Mike1> rxr: it broke on a generic build
23:44 < Be-El> anyone interested in the list of failing packages of the current cvs version ?
23:44 < Mike1> Be-El: how many?
23:45 < Be-El> 28
23:45 < Mike1> generic?
23:45 < Be-El> yeap...generic build, athlon optimized
23:45 < Mike1> paste them to me on a query please :)
23:48 < esden> rxr: ping?
23:48 < snyke> hi esden
23:48 < esden> hi snyke 
23:49 < Mike1> rxr i will svn up and rebuild on a moment
23:50 < esden> ok ... I will be back soon ...
23:51 < tsa> Be-El: any of my packages broken?
23:52 < Be-El> tsa: nope
23:53 < tsa> good.
23:53 < Be-El> ok...and now....switching to svn
23:53 < tsa> i guess it complains about usr/bin/imapd being a shared file, but i won't change that
23:54 < Be-El> i'm building without paranoia checks...
23:54 < tsa> ah, ok
23:58 < rxr> damn now the 2.5 kernel also starts intensive swapping
23:58 < rxr> why aren't these damn kernels designed for 4 parallel ROCK builds with a normal desktop system runnin ?
23:58 < rxr> (multiple xemacs, knoqueror, xmms, ...)
23:59 < Be-El> rxr: they are designed to run 4 parallel rock builds and a complete kde desktop
23:59 < Mike1> rxr: maybe you want to provide a patch for such thing :)
23:59 < Be-El> rxr: just a jsut lacking enough ram ;-)
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