--- Log opened Thu May 15 00:00:31 2003
--- Day changed Thu May 15 2003
00:08 < _NULL_> gn8
00:08 < Be-El> cu null
00:15 * tsa_ patching
00:15 < tsa_> ..
00:23 < tsa_> YES!!!
00:23 < Mike1> ?
00:23 < Mike1> hi tsa btw
00:23 < tsa_> hi Mike1
00:24 < Be-El> tsa_: no
00:24 < tsa_> i just discovered we don't even have a metamail package
00:24 < tsa_> so i made one.
00:24 < tsa_> the result:
00:24 < tsa_> $ ls metamail/
00:24 < tsa_> 00_mm-2.7-make.patch          50_mm-2.7-linux.patch
00:24 < tsa_> 05_mm-2.7-fonts.patch         55_metamail-2.7-fixpartial.patch
00:24 < tsa_> 10_mm-2.7-glibc.patch         60_metamail-2.7-fixawk.patch
00:24 < tsa_> 15_mm-2.7-csh.patch           65_metamail-2.7-usesox.patch
00:24 < tsa_> 20_mm-2.7-uudecode.patch      70_mm-2.7-sendmail.patch
00:24 < tsa_> 25_mm-2.7-sunquote.patch      75_mm-2.7-remove_tilde.patch
00:24 < tsa_> 30_mm-2.7-ohnonotagain.patch  80_mm-2.7-strip.patch
00:24 < tsa_> 35_mm-2.7-arghhh.patch        85_mm-2.7-rm.patch
00:24 < tsa_> 40_mm-2.7-sml.patch           metamail.conf
00:25 < tsa_> 45_metamail-2.7-nl.patch      metamail.desc
00:25 < tsa_> (some patches shamelessy stolen from RedHat..)
00:25 < Mike1> holysh|t!
00:26 < Be-El> why is that voice in my head saying a simple perl script would waste less disk space ? ;-)
00:26 < Mike1> *ggg*
00:26 < Be-El> disktype: usr/sbin/disktype
00:26 < Be-El> disktype: usr/share/doc/disktype/HISTORY
00:26 < Be-El> ...
00:26 < Be-El> done ;-)
00:29 < tsa_> at least my mail system at home is working fine now..
00:29 < tsa_> (switched incoming to uucp today..a lot nicer than fetchmail.. ;)
00:30 < tsa_> ROTFL.
00:30 < tsa_> taken from the metamail redhat .spec file:
00:30 < tsa_> * Mon Jun 22 1998 Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com>
00:30 < tsa_> - If you want to know how not to write secure software
00:30 < tsa_>   then metamail is a good worked example. Mind you to
00:30 < tsa_>   be fair the original author wrote it as a prototype
00:30 < tsa_>   MIME tool and it stuck. Anyway it might actually be
00:30 < tsa_>   safe now. More from the Linux Security Audit Project.
00:53 < rxr> Committed revision 233.
00:53 < Be-El> rxr: you're too fast, the next patch is not ready yet ;-)
00:57 < rxr> the changes are that locally that your patch most probably apply ;-)
00:59 < Be-El> we'll see ;-)
00:59 < Be-El> patch send
01:00 < tsa_> rxr: how often do you sync to clifford?
01:02 < Be-El> 18 packages left to be fixed
01:04 < rxr> tsa_: until last week every night - but since in the last 1 1/2 weeks the patches where pending for half a week or longer - I now do is every two or three days, depding uppong my free time ..
01:05 < tsa_> rxr: why should custmain be avoided?
01:05 < Be-El> anyways, i'm off
01:05 < Be-El> cu
01:05 < tsa_> cu Be-El
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01:06 < rxr> tsa_: because it disables many hooks the targets can use for package adaption
01:07 < rxr> take a look into scripts/functions
01:07 < tsa_> rxr: btw...the build scripts try bzip2 on the tar.Z file,  therefore i extract manually.
01:08 < rxr> tsa_: I feared this .
01:08 < rxr> (maybe we should adapt the scripts to recognize .Z ... ?!?)
01:08 < rxr> anyway
01:09 < tsa_> might be a good idea.
01:09 < rxr> you should to this quite in the beginning (preconf or so) and set srcdir
01:09 < rxr> so the patching will be done automatically
01:10 < rxr> tsa_: not in the next days - most clean would be to convert during download ... This can be a -beta4 thing or so.
01:10 < tsa_> ack
01:10 < tsa_> metamail is really ugly, but since it's a pretty common package..
01:14 < tsa_> exim 4.20 released, BTW.
01:16 < rxr> tsa_: ok - thanks
01:26 < rxr> it is really nice how many people currently contribute to 2.0 ;-)!
01:27 < tsa_> ack
01:27 < tsa_> more people are really important..
01:27 < rxr> tsa_: ack
01:29 < rxr> tsa_: I had a really strange email conversation with ripclaw ...
01:30 < tsa_> about what?
01:30 < tsa_> (i haven't heard anything from him for quite a while)
01:31 < rxr> tsa_: about why ROCK currently sucks - and what we need to do differently
01:31 < Mike1> mm...
01:31 < rxr> tsa_: in the whole he has not been subscribed on rock-linux since last December and not followed any ROCK news
01:31 < tsa_> ah, i see.
01:31 < rxr> and did not know abou anything recent ... - not even that 1.6 got deprecated ...
01:32 < Mike1> rxr: so how can he tell rock currently sucks
01:32 < Mike1> ?
01:32 < mnemoc> 1-coreutils fails (with Mike's applied) :(
01:32 < rxr> Mike1: don't ask me ...
01:32 < tsa_> hm.. i can't say anything about why rock sucks. i guess that's impossible when you're involved as a developer
01:33 < Mike1> tsa_: perhaps
01:33 < Mike1> mnemoc: huh?
01:33 < Mike1> mnemoc: can i see the patch
01:33 < Mike1> ?
01:33 < tsa_> i guess there are lots of things that suck about rock linux, but we'll never notice them...user reports are important for that kind..
01:33 < Mike1> i mean the error*
01:33 < tsa_> i'm (mostly) satisfied..
01:33 < mnemoc> Mike1: query
01:34 < mnemoc> tsa: we need a public 'blackboard' on the main page
01:34 < Mike1> mnemoc: ah yeah, i fixed that somedays ago but have not submit a patch as never heard back about the previous from rxr or clifforfd
01:35 < mnemoc> post the updated one ;)
01:35 < Mike1> mm... ok
01:35 < Mike1> moment
01:36 < tsa_> rxr: TYPO!
01:36 < rxr> mnemoc: for 2.0 I need bugzilla
01:36 < tsa_> [V] 0,22,0
01:36 < tsa_> subversion package
01:36 < rxr> tsa_: thanks
01:37 < mnemoc> bugzilla isn't too 'big' for rock?
01:37 < rxr> mnemoc: don't now - but I need more than my manual 2.0.0.in file ... ;-)
01:37 < rxr> where user can write bugs into ...
01:38 < rxr> and too big ;-) the subversino people said my repository is _big_ ;-) So ...
01:38 < mnemoc> full of svn overhead ;)
01:38 < mnemoc> 30M -> 120M here
01:39 < rxr> mnemoc: yes - but this includes a second copy so that many operations are a) fast and b) network-less ;-)
01:39 < mnemoc> sure... svn is much better than cvs
01:39 < rxr> and you can revert to a prestine copy and diff without network
01:40 < mnemoc> i didn't know that
01:40 < rxr> ;-)
01:41 < Mike1> mnemoc: i sent the new patch to you an cc tp rxr
01:42 < mnemoc> thanks
01:43 < Mike1> :)
01:45 < mnemoc> rxr: could be great if we could develop over parallel braches on the same server.. i can't mix rock's svn with my own svn.. or cvs... so i can loose all the work with an stupid rm -rf src.*
01:46 < rxr> mnemoc:  how would you like to work on the server ?
01:46 < Mike1> mnemoc: src.* is cleaned up with ./scripts/Cleanup
01:46 < mnemoc> Mike1: i know but my fingers prefer to write rm -rf :(
01:46 < Mike1> mnemoc: well then its an attitude problem :P
01:47 < mnemoc> brb :|
01:49 < rxr> hm do I merge with Cliff this night ?
01:51 < tsa_> yes, do it.
01:51 < rxr> Mike1: the > is a string compare in bash (IRRC) should be -gt
01:51 < rxr> tsa_: do you use cvs or svn ? ;-)
01:52 < tsa_> rxr: currently cvs - the subversion package insists on apache...
01:52 < rxr> tsa_: build it manually ;-)
01:52 < rxr> then it doesn't need apache ...
01:52 < tsa_> hehe
01:53 < rxr> why don't you wanna have apache on your workstation ?
01:53 < rxr> Mark Mitchell <mar GCC 3.3 Released
01:54 < rxr> hehe:
01:54 < rxr> - Angela Thomas, for putting our CVS repository back together in
01:54 < rxr>   incredibly short order, after I made a mess of it.
01:54 < tsa_> hehe
01:54 < rxr> ^- Mark Mitchell destroyed the gcc cvs shortly before the release ...
01:54 < tsa_> rxr: because i already have my own apache installed..
01:55 < Mike1> rxr: ok so -gt will be :)
01:56 < rxr> but I dont like this conditional patch anyway - it should be disable another way
01:57 < Mike1> rxr: So how about you apply your fix idea so we can have a working coreutils
01:57 < Mike1> ?
01:57 < mnemoc> rxr: an RCS wihich allows us to a have personal braches (keeping just the differences with main brach) to have version control we too ;)
01:57 < rxr> Mike1: yeah - that would really be a great thing ...
01:58 < mnemoc> rxr: lx24/gcc33 previous problem solved :D .... new one had come :(
01:58 < mnemoc> net/network.o(.text+0xf6e5): In function `rtnetlink_rcv':
01:58 < mnemoc> : undefined reference to `rtnetlink_rcv_skb'
01:58 < mnemoc> make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1
01:58 < rxr> mnemoc: :-(
01:59 < Mike1> rxr: i'm just saying, if you know a better solution than mine to get this damn coreutils building, then please apply such solution
01:59 < Mike1> rxr: i don't mind if my patch doesn't get applied as long as the package gets fixed soon..
01:59 < rxr> Mike1: I got what you mean ...
02:00 < Mike1> i guess its our common interest :)
02:00 < rxr> //usr/bin/yes yes
02:00 < tsa_> lol.
02:01 < tsa_> http://internet.ls-la.net/pictures/Traffic-Ticket-of-the-NPD.html
02:01 < rxr> this damn cvs up is so slow ...
02:02 < rxr> sync running ...
02:07 < rxr> Committed revision 244.
02:07 < rxr> ^- sync with clifford
02:07 < tsa_> ok
02:08 < rxr> tsa_: now I'm diffing for the output to clifford ...
02:09 < tsa_> do you have write access to cliffords cvs or do you mail him the diffs?
02:10 < rxr> nope mail
02:10 < rxr> this is why they are lying around half a week in the last weeks ...
02:10 < mnemoc> c question: why an inline function may be defined as extern? linux2.4.21-rc2/net/core/rtnetlink.c
02:10 < rxr> and why I agreed with him that I'll do all the merging from the list now ..
02:11 < tsa_> ah, ok
02:11 < rxr> mnemoc: ou - the special meaning changed over time ... - the best is to google for it! (there have been extensive discussions about that on linux-kernel)
02:12 < mnemoc> rxr: ok :( ... btw, thats what breaks lx24/gcc33 now
02:13 < Mike1> rm -rf rock-1.5/ rock-src-1.7/ rock-trunk/ patches/ docs/
02:13 < Mike1> uurrgs
02:13 < Mike1> sorry.
02:14 * Mike1 is away: busy
02:14 < rxr> hm ?
02:16 < rxr> rm -rf this dirs? Maybe I should not say s.th. about conditional patches ...
02:16 * Mike1 is back (gone 00:02:37)
02:16 < Mike1> rxr: nah its ok.
02:17 < Mike1> rxr: i'm cleaning up thats all.
02:18 < mnemoc> i use 3 copies of svn tree :)
02:18 < mnemoc> reference; development; testing
02:20 < Mike1> mnemoc: very good, all in the same box?
02:21 < mnemoc> hd is not THE problem of that box
02:21 < Mike1> :)
02:21 < Mike1> i know.
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02:28 < tsa_> <- sleep
02:28 < tsa_> n8
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02:28 < rxr> n8 tsa_
02:28 < rxr> so finally merged
02:28 < rxr> mail off to cliff
02:28 < rxr> ui "234k"
02:41 * Mike1 leaving
02:41 < Mike1> n8 all.
02:42 < mnemoc> gn8 Don Miguel
02:42 * rxr sleeping too - cu today
02:42 < mnemoc> or Licenciado?
02:43 < mnemoc> n8 rxr
02:43 < Mike1> mnemoc: you can call me Master
02:43 < Mike1> :PP jk
02:43 < mnemoc> :o
02:43 < Mike1> mnemoc: just Mike / Miguel.
02:43 < Mike1> :)
02:43 * Mike1 gone
02:53 < george> cp: cannot stat `misc/tools-source/install_wrapper.sh': No such file or directory
02:53 < george> chmod: getting attributes of `build/default-2.0.0-beta3-x86-generic-expert/tools.cross/wrapper/install_wrapper': No such file or directory
02:53 < george> huh
02:57 < mnemoc> seems cliff forgot to commit it :D
02:58 < george> no, rene forgot to "svn add" it
02:58 < mnemoc> :-\
02:59 < george> it is in CVS, however
02:59 < mnemoc> cvs update
02:59 < mnemoc> :)
02:59 < mnemoc> i don't have it yet
03:04 < esden> good evening
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03:05 < someyung> is this channel about music?
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03:06 < mnemoc> music :(
03:06 < esden> hmm .. that was a quicky
03:11 < esden> mnemoc: you probably want to hit me for my mail ... :-/
03:11 < esden> I excuse me if you felt offended or so by it ... :-(
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03:12 < mnemoc> don't worry ;) ... i would love a comment like that BEFORE clifford's
03:13 < esden> yes clifford overreacted once more ...
03:13 < esden> that is why I wrote a mail
03:13 < mnemoc> thanks :)
03:13 < esden> de nada ;-)
03:13 < mnemoc> my first intention with architecture/*/download.txt was avoidning packages like linux24-ben and not realy uml
03:14 < mnemoc> danke ;-)
03:14 < esden> if you ask me I really do not like the different kernel packages
03:15 < esden> and there will me more for example for rtai there will be another kernel package
03:15 < esden> I really hate that
03:15 < esden> but daja77 does not have another solution for that at the moment
03:16 < mnemoc> but... did you see the rsbac package?
03:16 < esden> nope ...
03:17 < esden> what is it?
03:17 < mnemoc> a security patch for kernel
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03:17 < mnemoc> i also have pacakges for vserver, ipvs, grsecurity and LIDS
03:17 < mnemoc> i guess rtai can be applied in the same way
03:18 < mnemoc> i forgot freeswan... that's a kernel patch too
03:18 < esden> hmm ... talk with daja77 about it
03:18 < esden> perhups you will find a solution for rtai together
03:19 < mnemoc> i did it a couple of weeks ago, but i don't know if he understood my pseudo-english explanation :(
03:20 < esden> hmm ... try it once more please
03:20 < mnemoc> ok :)
03:20 < esden> thanks
03:21 < mnemoc> bitte
03:21 < esden> hehe
03:21 < esden> ok ... I should move over to bed *yawn*
03:21 < mnemoc> gn8
03:21 < esden> I whish you a nice day/night whatever
03:21 < esden> n8
03:22 < mnemoc> n8 *g*
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04:10 < jose> mnemoc: good morning!
04:12 < jose> esden: do you survive to Mike1 and daja77 !, congrats!
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04:15 < holyolli> moin
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04:16 < mnemoc> hi holyolli, jose
04:17 < jose> mnemoc: salu2 a la madre patria!
04:18 < holyolli> hi mnemoc
04:18 < mnemoc> jose: why? today is an important day somewhere?
04:20 < mnemoc> i not good on history :(
04:22 < mnemoc> my box sounds like a truck :(
04:31 < n00kie> morning :)
04:31 < holyolli> hi nookie
04:32 < n00kie> Hi holyolli
04:32 < mnemoc> hi nookie
04:32 < n00kie> hola mnemoc :)
04:33 < mnemoc> :P
04:33 < n00kie> how are you ?
04:33 < mnemoc> bored as hell... and working as an slave :(
04:33 < n00kie> ah, hehe
04:34 < n00kie> take a break :)
04:34 < george> what are you doing, mnemoc?
04:34 < mnemoc> doing a managment system (web-based) in c# :\
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04:35 < mnemoc> mmm... but... i'll take the break :)
04:36 < george> wanna change (here it's 4.30AM)?
04:36 < n00kie> 10:30pm :)
04:37 < n00kie> I would go to bed again
04:37 < mnemoc> no thanks... 10:30 here too
04:37 < mnemoc> too?? <-- forget that
04:37 < george> *grin*
04:39 < mnemoc> brb
04:39 < george> hurray, 50% fiber coupling efficiency! I can go home now.
04:39 < mnemoc> ?
04:39 < mnemoc> are you at work?
04:40 < george> I'm a physicist, trying to get light from a pulsed laser source in to a glass fiber...
04:40 < mnemoc> beautyful :)
04:40 < george> What I'm doing is pretty dangerous, so I'm working in the night when nobody
04:40 < george> is around.
04:41 < george> (dangerous for the eyes)
04:41 < mnemoc> uff
04:42 < n00kie> sounds interresting george :)
04:42 < george> yep!
04:43 < mnemoc> good luck... i'll go to bed now ;)
04:43 < george> and vv.
04:44 < n00kie> sleep well, george
04:44 < george> nookie: btw, what are you doing at this time?
04:44 < george> gn8 all, going home now too!
04:45 < n00kie> george: Standing up, doing my thinks (shower, ...), breakfast et cetera
04:45 < n00kie> i must go out at 6
04:45 < george> what a life...
04:45 < mnemoc> 1:30 hour? how far should you go?
04:46 < jose> mnemoc: web-app in C# ?, the micro$hit ?
04:47 < n00kie> mnemoc: School
04:47 < george> nookie: coding before breakfast?
04:47 < n00kie> Sometimes :)
04:47 < george> just crazy people around: I LIKE THAT!!!
04:48 < mnemoc> hehe.... 'gn8'
04:48 < n00kie> sleep well, george
04:49 < george> thanks, happy learning
04:49 < george> gn8 all
04:49 < n00kie> :)
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05:18 < n00kie> hmm
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06:28 < netrunner> moin
06:49 < fronti> moin
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06:58 < fronti> .o( building rocklinux needs more than 5 GB disk space..  )
08:17 * netrunner childishly waits for his new case to arrive to fit his board in :)
08:31 < _NULL_> morning *yaaaaaawn*
08:42 < netrunner> good morning 0
08:44 < _NULL_> ni netrunner
08:55 * netrunner was so tired this morning that he went to the varsity almost an hour early.
08:56 < _NULL_> hehe. why were you so tired?
08:57 < netrunner> _NULL_: dunno. maybe to much beer in conjunction with xp-horror-trip yesterday ;)
08:58 < _NULL_> netrunner: tststs. you should not "ertraenken your frust" :p
09:00 < netrunner> well, it was not my xp, but I am held responsible for what it did. :(
09:01 < _NULL_> huh? why this?
09:02 < _NULL_> (btw, don't compile glibc or other critical stuff, if you're feeling almost dead (--> extremely tired) /me killed her rocklinux with that, yesterday night)
09:04 < netrunner> _NULL_: I have no problem with glibc, it compiles in only one day :)
09:05 * netrunner can't wait to get his new system up and running, maybe just run it without case?
09:07 < _NULL_> netrunner: :p /me had no problems with glibc too... but... aehm. i thought that i chrooted in my new system (lfs) - but wasn't and compiled it on my host system... but... glibc shot my system :/
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09:14 < _NULL_> gnaaaaaaaaa. today is a bad day
09:15 < netrunner> _NULL_: no, this hour is far to early!
09:16 < _NULL_> or so...
09:16 < _NULL_> or - too less caffeine/teain/whatever in the blood
09:21 < kasc> caffeine == teaine ;)
09:21 < kasc> btw: moin
09:21 < _NULL_> kasc: whatever. moin
09:21 < kasc> no, caffeine != whatever ;-P
09:23 < _NULL_> ...
09:30 < rxr> re
09:30 < kasc> moin rxr
09:31 < netrunner> hi rxr
09:31 < _NULL_> hi rxr
09:33 < netrunner> hm ... some girl next to me seems to be a real bunny .. eating carrots the whole time *crack* *crunch* *crunch* *noise*
09:33 * netrunner cannot sleep under such conditions :)
09:36 < _NULL_> lazy student, you are not allowed to sleep during lessons :p
09:37 * _NULL_ np: alien sex fiend - now i'm feeling zombified (*looking in the imagionary (???) mirror)
09:48 < netrunner> yes - sniped a graka for my system :) (or 2, anybody needs the other one? ;)
09:48 < _NULL_> depends on which graka it is...
09:49 < netrunner> matrox g450 dualhead pci 16MB (afaik framebuffer works well with those)
09:50 < _NULL_> for free?
09:50 < netrunner> _NULL_: no, not really :)
09:51 < _NULL_> than not...
10:03 < netrunner> ah ... finish
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10:08 < Be-El> hi ppl
10:09 < _NULL_> hi Be-El
11:01 < daja77> re
11:07 < _NULL_> hi daja77
11:07 < Be-El> moin daja77
11:15 < daja77> hi _NULL_ && Be-El
11:15 < _NULL_> hi da && ja && 77
11:15 < daja77> :p
11:16 < daja77> I haven't split you up, have I?
11:18 < _NULL_> daja77: nope. not jetzt.
11:18 < _NULL_> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaeh. yet
11:18 < daja77> lol
11:19 < _NULL_> cat /dev/owl/brain
11:19 < _NULL_> cat: /dev/owl/brain: No such file or directory
11:19 < daja77> _ && N && U && L && L && _
11:19 < daja77> :p
11:20 < _NULL_> daja77: :pooo
11:20 < _NULL_> :pppppppppp i menat
11:20 < daja77> lol
11:21 < _NULL_> (dammit. i 'm not able to hit the correct keys)
11:21 < daja77> ack
11:22 < _NULL_> .oO(not overclocked, but overworked *grml*)
11:23 < daja77> poor _NULL_
11:25 < _NULL_> ack
11:28 < daja77> .oO I am here with _NULL_ alone *frightened*
11:30 * Be-El hides in a corner and watches what's going on
11:30 < daja77> Be-El: Feigling!
11:31 * daja77 puts his cold feet on his warm computer
11:31 * Be-El puts some hot coffee into his warm stomach
11:32 < daja77> well I should have breakfast, cu
11:36 < rxr> cu daja77
11:47 -!- Be-El is now known as BL|mampf
12:01 < rxr> now the dRock homepage has a fix for WinIE6 - and has less typos to be more w3c conform
12:01 < rxr> any comments ?
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12:20 -!- BL|mampf is now known as Be-El
12:21 < Be-El> re
12:22 < rxr> cu later
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13:09 < george> hi.
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13:58 < _NULL_> somone already has the problem that "no more PTYs" occurs, when using screen?
13:58 < _NULL_> s/has/had
13:58 < Be-El> nope
13:59 < _NULL_> dammit. :-/
13:59 * Be-El hands _NULL_ some spare /dev/ptys
13:59 < Be-El> _NULL_: how many screen to your actually run ?
14:00 < _NULL_> Be-El: screen as in screen-3.9.9 or ...?
14:00 < _NULL_> do you mean /dev/pty/m$number?
14:01 < Be-El> _NULL_: nope, the number of screens as listed by 'screen -list'
14:01 < _NULL_> Be-El: no screen. because it's showing me the error and quits...
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14:01 < _NULL_> http://the-null.de.vu/LFS/4.1/error-log/ << if you're interested in the error-output ;p
14:06 < george> _NULL_: take this down, somebody may brute force decode your password
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14:08 < _NULL_> george: a) it's a temp passwd. b) i'm behind a firewall at company c) i'm not connected to inet with this machine
14:08 < george> _NULL_: ok
14:09 < george> _NULL_: a bit paranoia saves bytes...
14:09 < Be-El> _NULL_: can you add the output of strace -f ? something happens after forking, but that's not part of the logs
14:11 < _NULL_> Be-El: ok.. moment
14:14 < _NULL_> screen_f_strace.log
14:17 < daja77> away
14:17 < daja77> *argh*
14:17 < daja77> re
14:17 < _NULL_> wb daja77
14:17 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M276P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux
14:17 < _NULL_> hi n00kie
14:17 < Be-El> _NULL_: [pid  4180] open("/usr//etc/screenrc", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
14:17 < daja77> hx _NULL_
14:18 < Be-El> _NULL_: this one looks strange to me....
14:18 < Be-El> re daja77
14:18 < Be-El> hi n00kie
14:18 < daja77> thx Be-El
14:18 < n00kie> Hi you both
14:19 < george> hehe, --etcdir=PREFIX/...
14:19 < daja77> hi george
14:19 < george> hi daja77...
14:19 < daja77> ...?
14:19 < george> I found out, why I can't even do stage 0 on my SuSE box, guess what?
14:20 < daja77> yeah no devfs
14:20 < Be-El> _NULL_: and it tries to open /dev/pty??....does you use a devfs-aware version of screen ?
14:20 < george> it was bash. bash-2.05b is okay, while bash-2.05 not
14:20 < daja77> *argh* fscking suse
14:20 < _NULL_> Be-El: i dunno...
14:21 < daja77> Be-El: not that I know of
14:21 < Be-El> _NULL_: is this a rock version of screen ?
14:21 < _NULL_> Be-El: nope
14:21 < Be-El> hmm....a rock linux installation ? ;-)
14:21 < _NULL_> Be-El: nope. LFS
14:21 < Be-El> or some mad process eating up all your /dev/pty??s ? ;-)
14:22 < Be-El> _NULL_: hmm...strange
14:22 < Be-El> _NULL_: check with lsof which process occupies the pty device nodes.....
14:22 < george> daja77's athlon <-> _NULL_: what's the status?
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14:23 < Be-El> _NULL_: in a usual environment, screen should use the pty multiplex master to allocate a pty, instead of trying all nodes
14:23 < daja77> well minimal build is ready, but a need bootdisc target to produce a bootable cd :(
14:23 < _NULL_> george: the sttus is, that i'm having a system which is broken... (my host system... not the lfs)
14:23 < Be-El> _NULL_: and try adding some more pty devices, if you do not use the /dev/pty filesystem
14:23 < george> _NULL_: I guess Be-El is right, try copying /etc/screenrc to /usr/etc/screenrc
14:24 < _NULL_> Be-El: hm. screenrc isn't there...
14:25 < daja77> george: i am doin now bootdisc build iso should be ready today :)
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14:26 < _NULL_> gnaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. yesterday i must have been blind
14:26 < _NULL_> (there is a screen-3.9.15)
14:26 < daja77> afaik you were indeed
14:26 < george> daja77: so I have to hurry up to install a ftp server...
14:27 < _NULL_> daja77: i don't speek about the glibc-crap happend ;p
14:27 < daja77> hmm no I have a web server, that should be enough
14:28 < daja77> george: but my connection is just isdn so be patient :)
14:28 < george> daja77: |-)))
14:28 < _NULL_> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!!!
14:28 < daja77> hehehe
14:28 < _NULL_> this fscking screen-3.9.15 works
14:28 * _NULL_ getting a gun and kills herself
14:29 * daja77 grabs some tape for _NULL_ 
14:29 < _NULL_> daja77: tape?
14:29 < george> daja77: building rock excludes being impatient
14:29 < daja77> to put it over your mouth and make you quiet
14:29 < daja77> george: :)))
14:30 * george is away: coffee injection
14:30 < daja77> hehe
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14:30 < daja77> the chan ghost :)
14:30 < netrunner> hm ... should I wait for the case or should I slaughter another pc to get power supply for my new board ...
14:30 < _NULL_> george: give me a coffee too, please. guess i need it...
14:31 < netrunner> _NULL_: come here, I just made some _strong_ coffee
14:31 < daja77> netrunner: slaughter!
14:31 < rolla> re
14:31 * daja77 wants coffee too
14:31 < daja77> hi rolla
14:31 < netrunner> daja: but ... what holds me is that he is bravely building rock for 1 week now...
14:31 < _NULL_> netrunner: ok. no. come here... and bring espresso with you, please. thx
14:32 * daja77  gives coffer to _NULL_ if she stops screaming
14:32 < netrunner> _NULL_: so where do you live?
14:33 < daja77> in the woods...
14:33 < daja77> :)
14:33 < _NULL_> netrunner: currentl i'm at work, in munich
14:33 < _NULL_> daja77: *kick*
14:33 < daja77> ouch
14:34 * netrunner begins to think that every rocker is in munich :)
14:34 < daja77> NO!
14:34 * Be-El hands _NULL_ a nice, balanced soft foam club
14:35 * daja77 checking the weather in Munich
14:36 < _NULL_> netrunner: nope i'm not a rocker anymore... :p
14:36 < daja77> @MoTux>   Weather Munich, Deutschland:  L bewölkt, 12°F  Wind :  aus dem
14:36 < daja77>                Westen mit 16 km/h
14:36 < _NULL_> Be-El: foam club?
14:36 < netrunner> daja77: mixed. 5 metres hail, 5m sun, 5m rain ...
14:36 < _NULL_> daja77: feels like -10 °C - at least i'm frozen
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14:36 < Be-El> _NULL_: yeap...for bashing people...it
14:36 < Be-El> it
14:36 < Be-El> it's more fun than kickin' them
14:37 * daja77 tries the foam club on Be-El 
14:37 < Be-El> .oO ( i'm absolutely sure that enter key wasn't there before..... )
14:37 < Be-El> daja77: "Access denied"
14:37 < daja77> haha please try again ;)
14:38 < daja77> O_o I can't remember having subscribed redhat security mailinglist
14:39 < netrunner> daja77: oh, I entered everybody there, thought it'd be interesting :P
14:39 < _NULL_> daja77: *lol* /me not too... but i'm also getting redhat-mails
14:39 * netrunner -> shopping
14:39 * george is back (gone 00:09:34)
14:39 < daja77> _NULL_: hehe redhat likes us :)
14:40 < _NULL_> daja77: ack
14:40 < _NULL_> netrunner: have fun
14:41 < _NULL_> uff... one hour and a half remaining... than i can sleep ... too long *argh*
14:41 < daja77> ??
14:42 < daja77> *argh* intel mails sucks
14:42 < _NULL_> daja77: you doN#t undandt me today. i'm venten not understanding the output of my brain, myselfe
14:42 < daja77> looool
14:42 < george> *lol*
14:42 < Be-El> cat _NULL_ | sort
14:42 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@217.14.64.20] has joined #rocklinux
14:43 < daja77> perl -e _NULL_.pl
14:43 < _NULL_> pfffff :p
14:43 < zer0_o> hi all
14:43 < daja77> hi zer0_o
14:43 < Be-El> daja77: Can't locate Coffe.pm in @INC
14:44 < zer0_o> =)
14:44 < _NULL_> hi zer0_o
14:44 < daja77> Be-El: bad luck :P
14:45 < daja77> merge zer0_o && _NULL_ *ggg*
14:45 < zer0_o> ???????
14:45 -!- george [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit ("back soone")
14:46 < zer0_o> deja allways thinks of sex =P
14:46 < _NULL_> daja77: why?
14:46 < daja77> I am only interested in the output...
14:46 < daja77> hmm cos it would be fun
14:46 < _NULL_> daja77: *kick*
14:46 < daja77> ;)
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14:48 < daja77> wb george
14:49 * george continues pumping photons into glass fibers
14:50 < daja77> hehe
14:51 < zer0_o> deja .. the output mostly is a baby =P
14:51 * _NULL_ np: alien sex fiend - now i'm feeling zombified... (one mor type)
14:51 < daja77> omg
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14:56 < zer0_o> ? zombified ??
14:56 < _NULL_> zer0_o: zombified... totally zombfied
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15:01 < daja77> great bootdisc build has reached stage 3, so only a few hours left ...
15:07 < daja77> *lol* 18rolla  daja77: what does zundfolge mean?
15:07 < daja77> :)
15:11 < zer0_o> what do you mean with zombified ? *g*
15:13 < daja77> zer0_o: the state you reach if you somehow survive a kill -9 ;)
15:13 < _NULL_> zer0_o: feeling like a zombie (and also looking like one)
15:13 < _NULL_> daja77: ack
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15:15 < daja77> *argh* this sucks
15:15 < _NULL_> *g* Parabull is the scnd. zombie of #rocklinux i guess
15:15 < daja77> who is the first?
15:16 < _NULL_> daja77: who? /me
15:16 < daja77> ah ic hmm strange
15:16 < daja77> _NULL_: but you talk...
15:17 < _NULL_> daja77: jup. talking... but ... but... with aeh. some sweet errors
15:17 < daja77> hehe sweet indeed
15:18 < _NULL_> daja77: yeah. i'm responsible for that people have to laught something/someone about.
15:18 < daja77> hmm thought that was my job...
15:19 < _NULL_> daja77: nope. it's mine. want a fight, eh?
15:19 < daja77> yeah sure
15:19 * _NULL_ preparing to fight with daja77 
15:20 * daja77 hits _NULL_ with BL|away's foam club
15:20 * _NULL_ owns: sword, black magic power, helmet *hrhr*
15:20 < daja77> uh black magic
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15:21 * daja77 runs away from _NULL_ 
15:21 < _NULL_> *hrhr*
15:21 * _NULL_ stops daja77 with the black magic
15:21 * _NULL_ takes her sword and kills the stopped daja77 with it
15:21 * daja77 picks up his head and screams
15:22 < daja77> @MoTux>   Weather Magdeburg, Deutschland:  L bewölkt, 16°F  Wind :  aus
15:22 < daja77>                dem Nordwesten mit 26 km/h
15:22 < daja77> *argh* shit wrong window
15:28 * daja77 throws his bloody head at _NULL_ 
15:29 -!- Caspar [~steven261@212186221172.teleweb.at] has joined #rocklinux
15:29 < daja77> hi Caspar
15:29 < Caspar> hi
15:30 < _NULL_> i Caspar
15:30 < _NULL_> +h
15:30 < Caspar> :)
15:30 < daja77> ih Caspar?
15:30 < daja77> *hrhr*
15:30 < _NULL_> daja77: *kick*
15:30 < _NULL_> sort the letters by yourself.
15:30 < _NULL_> i'm givign it up
15:30 < daja77> hehe
15:31 * Caspar has been hacked :(
15:31 < _NULL_> Caspar: uh
15:31 < daja77> ??
15:32 < Caspar> some guy from 80.97.95.196 has hacked my system and was running a password cruncher :(
15:33 < daja77> Caspar: reinstall that box
15:34 < Caspar> *sniff* thats easier said than doing so ... it's a machine i can't turn off
15:34 < daja77> Caspar: you have to turn it off anyway, a cracked machine is no benefit
15:34 < Caspar> i know
15:35 < daja77> so turn it off, and reinstall!
15:35 < Caspar> but the websites running on that box have to be online ... so i've to rebuiild the box on a second machine and switch over ...
15:36 < daja77> *argh* you really dare bein online with a cracked box
15:37 * daja77 getting a coffee
15:37 < daja77> brb
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15:50 < daja77> re
15:54 < daja77> hmm bash is in a strange mood today...
15:55 < _NULL_> <-- goping home
15:55 < _NULL_> trekkie3k: eh!! you're here? O_o
15:55 < daja77> _NULL_: have fun ;)
15:55 < daja77> cu
15:55 < _NULL_> daja77: thx. bye
15:55 < daja77> bye _NULL_
15:55 < daja77> hi trekkie3k
15:56 < trekkie3k> hi :)
15:59 -!- BL|away is now known as Be-El
15:59 < Be-El> re
15:59 < daja77> wb Be-El
16:02 < daja77> wtf
16:03 < Be-El> #define feierabend 1
16:03 < Be-El> cu later ;-)
16:03 < daja77> lucky bastard :)
16:03 < daja77> cu
16:03 < Be-El> lucky ? i
16:03 < daja77> not?
16:03 < Be-El> i'm going to continue at home....
16:03 < daja77> work on rock?
16:04 < Be-El> nope....working on an installation-system for one of our applications
16:04 < daja77> :(
16:04 < Be-El> about 130.000 lines of perl code ;-)
16:04 < daja77> *urgs*
16:05 < Be-El> ok, 20.000 of them are auto-generated ;-)
16:05 < daja77> ahem please don't tell me details...
16:05 < Be-El> *g*
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16:05 < Mike1> Good day all.
16:06 < n00kie> Good Morning, Mike1 :)
16:06 < Mike1> :)
16:06 < daja77> Hola Miguel
16:07 * Mike1 ready to run a new build on the 4x2.4ghz box :)
16:20 < zer0_o> _NULL_: do you like looking like a zombie
16:21 < daja77> zer0_o: _NULL_ is away
16:21 < rolla> all users must die
16:21 < daja77> rolla: ??
16:21 < zer0_o> daja77:  aha..
16:22 < daja77> zer0_o: don't believe me, do a /whois
16:24 < zer0_o> what does she train ?
16:24 < daja77> she drives home by train
16:24 < mnemoc> daja77: what problem did you have applying rtai as a package? (like rsbac)
16:25 < rolla> daja77: users are dumb and need to die
16:25 < rolla> 
16:25 < rolla> The linux kernel is full of our stolen code. I triple guarantee you - it
16:25 < rolla> is all over the place! We're giving them a real lesson today. Heavy
16:25 < rolla> doesn't accurately describe the level of casualties we have inflicted. I
16:25 < rolla> will show you the stolen code - IN ONE HOUR!
16:25 < rolla> 
16:25 < rolla> Mohammed al-Sahaf (now SCO press spokesman)
16:25 < rolla> too funny
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16:25 < rolla> re
16:26 < mnemoc> sco code in linux kernel?
16:26 < rolla> that is what they are saying
16:26 < rolla> go to slashdot if you want more
16:26 < daja77> sco is the dumbest company I know
16:26 < rolla> well dah
16:27 < daja77> mnemoc: only 2.4.20 is supported by rtai
16:28 < mnemoc> but... how hard is to 'port' it to 2.4.21?
16:28 < daja77> omg it is raining cats and dogs here
16:28 < mnemoc> daja77: have you asked them for a patch for 2.4.21?
16:28 < daja77> mnemoc: nope
16:29 < mnemoc> i guarranty you they are not waiting the 2.4.21 release for start working over it ;)
16:30 < daja77> dunno, /me checking their cvs
16:30 < mnemoc> ask them :)
16:30 < daja77> mnemoc: they are conservativly releasing
16:31 < mnemoc> not taking about a release, talking about an internal 'port' of current stable interface to the next kernel version
16:31 < daja77> I know but there is no official 2.4.21 release...
16:33 < daja77> no patch in cvs
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16:35 < mnemoc> i'll check out that pacakge now... just to take a look
16:35 < daja77> :)
16:35 < rolla> == 08:57:31 =[5]=> Building x11/mozilla [1.3 2.0.0-beta3].
16:35 < daja77> everything else is ready here
16:35 < mnemoc> but ASK THEM... or ask alesssandro to ask them ;)
16:36 < daja77> alessandro is involved in rtai?
16:36 < mnemoc> i guess he studied at politecnico di milano
16:37 < daja77> :)
16:37 < mnemoc> and... he can do the request in italian ;)
16:37 < daja77> yeah but that isn't necessary
16:38 < mnemoc> i hate the idea of adding more linux24-* packates
16:38 < daja77> mnemoc: I won't add a package just replace it, and do a seperate release
16:39 < mnemoc> i'll try to solve your problem in the elegant way :)
16:40 < daja77> yeah sure but time is short in that case :(
16:42 < mnemoc> your problem was appling the patch or building the kernel?
16:42 < daja77> hmm what do you think should I try to do the patch myself based on the diff I have
16:43 < mnemoc> first: i'll see what files reject to apply
16:43 < mnemoc> then patch the patch is necesary ;)
16:43 < daja77> mnemoc: ?
16:44 < daja77> i don't get your idea sorry
16:44 < mnemoc> when you apply a patch, you get {success, offsets, rejects}
16:44 < daja77> ah k.
16:45 < mnemoc> you have to check if rejects are patchables to apply to current version
16:45 < daja77> hmm we will see, checking, will take some time :)
16:46 < mnemoc> if you can do that in your super-fast computer it will take less :)
16:46 < daja77> hmm I have only a p4 here, but should be sufficient
16:47 < daja77> at work
16:47 < Mike1> someone mentiones super fast computer?
16:47 < Mike1> :P
16:47 < daja77> Mike1: :p go on with coding
16:47 < mnemoc> :o
16:47 < Mike1> daja77: sorry i was staring at the window for a moment and couldn't avoid to tease mnemoc
16:47 < daja77> lol
16:47 < mnemoc> daja77: apply it in --dry-run againt the vanilla... just to see the rejects
16:48 < Mike1> greetings mnemoc :)
16:48 * Mike1 back to code..
16:48 < mnemoc> Buenos dias Licenciado
16:48 < daja77> O_o
16:48 < n00kie> wb Mike1 :)
16:48 < mnemoc> .cr people tells 'licenciado' like other people of that area?
16:48 < zer0_o> ?
16:49 < zer0_o> i saw my face.. whats up? =)
16:49 < daja77> zer0_o: :ppp
16:51 < mnemoc> daja77: that shit is not a patch :S
16:52 < zer0_o> where is the text about stolen code ?
16:52 < daja77> huh?
16:52 < daja77> mnemoc: ??
16:52 < mnemoc> /.
16:52 < mnemoc> rtai is not a patch :|
16:52 < zer0_o> ah
16:52 < daja77> mnemoc: why
16:53 < daja77> well of course it is more than just a patch
16:53 < mnemoc> there are files inside, it a patched kernel and not a patch to kernel
16:53 < daja77> mnemoc: don't worry about rtai, I am working on it, and have nearly finished
16:53 < daja77> mnemoc: nack
16:55 < mnemoc> nack?
16:57 * mnemoc reading README
16:57 < daja77> mnemoc: the kernel patches are in the patches dir
17:01 < mnemoc> daja77: this patch has to be applied in postpatch hook... with a function included from rtai's parse-config
17:01 < daja77> mnemoc: already done
17:02 < mnemoc> don't forget to distinguish archs
17:02 < mnemoc> (what a chaos)
17:02 < zer0_o> i'm updating a zyxel router with 9600 baud, it takes 24 minutes .. crazy.. ;)
17:03 < daja77> mnemoc: only x86 is supported now
17:03 < daja77> mnemoc: the hard part was to offer rtai configs to rock dialogs
17:04 < jose> morning 2 all
17:04 < daja77> this is a dirty hack at the moment, but I am running out of time
17:04 < daja77> hi jose
17:04 < mnemoc> so you can cleanly apply it to 2.4.21-rc2 and you whan to enable it?
17:04 < mnemoc> s/whan/want/
17:05 < daja77> mnemoc: ?
17:05 < mnemoc> you are patching 2.4.21-rc2 succesfully from rtai's parse-config?
17:06 < mnemoc> are you?
17:06 < daja77> no I tried with 2.4.20, it worked, now I have to port to 2.4.21-rc2
17:07 < mnemoc> do you know how to CONFIG_RTHAL=y in parse-config?
17:08 < daja77> hmm I dunno what you are talking of, i told you everything worked fine with 2.4.20
17:08 < mnemoc> ok
17:12 < george> cu in a few hours
17:12 < mnemoc> bye
17:13 < daja77> cu george hope iso is ready then
17:14 < george> daja77: desperately waiting for it..., cu (btw, thanks in advance)
17:14 < daja77> np
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17:14 < rolla> e
17:14 < daja77> +r
17:14 < daja77> re rolla
17:15 < rolla> :)
17:20 < zer0_o> i go home
17:20 < zer0_o> bye all =)
17:20 < daja77> cu zer0_o
17:20 < zer0_o> bye =)
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17:23 < rolla> grrrr
17:24 < daja77> rolla: what's up?
17:27 < daja77> *argh* sco wants to sue Linux users, they lost their mind completely
17:29 < mnemoc> they are trying to 'exist'
17:30 < daja77> die sco die!
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17:30 < daja77> mnemoc: these morons trying to exist with crappy software
17:33 < mnemoc> they are almost beliving they 'create' unix ;)
17:34 < daja77> lol yeah
17:42 < n00kie> mm
17:42 < n00kie> anyone using micq?
17:44 < jose> looks like anyone is using other thing! ;_(
17:59 < daja77> *argh* damn slow nic
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18:51 < rolla> == 11:50:35 =[5]=> Building gnome2/gimp14 [1.3.14 2.0.0-beta3].
18:52 < Mike1> ping esden
18:53 < daja77> Mike1: I currently try to port rtai to linux-2.4.21-rc2 ;)
18:53 < Mike1> daja77: fun? :)
18:53 < daja77> yeah doin such stuff the first time, wish me luck
18:53 < Mike1> good luck
18:54 * Mike1 back to code..
18:54 < daja77> thx Mike1
18:54 < daja77> have fun
18:55 < Mike1> i am :)
18:55 < Mike1> daja77: and rxr will have fun too once i commit my patches *vbeg*
18:56 < Mike1> s/commit/submit
18:57 < daja77> as long as you don't commit new kernels
18:59 < Mike1> daja77: those won't be update patches..
18:59 < daja77> Mike1: explain
18:59 < daja77> or you mean bugfixes?
18:59 < Mike1> just wait and see :)
18:59 * daja77 hates that
18:59 < Mike1> yes i mean bug/typos/blah fixes
19:00 < daja77> okis
19:00 < Mike1> daja77: my update patch bombs are on hold untill 2.0 is released and we have 2.1
19:01 < daja77> hehehe
19:14 < _NULL_> re
19:14 < daja77> lol
19:14 < daja77> <@daja77> !decide RedHat RockLinux
19:14 < daja77> @MoTux> The obvious choice is: RockLinux.
19:15 < daja77> re _NULL_
19:15 < _NULL_> hm. still no errors until now - in typing i meant... O_o
19:18 < daja77> *lol* reading kernel src is fun
19:21 < _NULL_> daja77: why?
19:23 < daja77> extern int is_sony_vaio_laptop;
19:23 < daja77> EXPORT_SYMBOL(is_sony_vaio_laptop);
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19:26 < tsa> hi all
19:27 < _NULL_> hi tsa
19:28 < daja77> hi tsa
19:45 < jose> hi tsa, how is your mtu today! :_)
19:47 < tsa> 1492.
19:48 < rxr> re
19:48 < Mike1> hi Ren
19:50 < daja77> hi rxr
19:50 < _NULL_> hi rxr , hi Mike1
19:50 < daja77> damn this proting takes ages
19:50 < daja77> porting
19:51 < rxr> cu in some minutes
19:52 < Mike1> :|
19:55 < jose> when i'm closing one socket, is it good idea to shutdown(s,1) and then close ?
19:59 < rolla> == 12:58:38 =[5]=> Building gnome2/abiword20 [1.9.0 2.0.0-beta3].
20:00 < rolla> slow and steady wins the race
20:00 < daja77> hehe
20:01 < daja77> well if george comes back, could someone point him to http://lospalmos.homelinux.net/minimal/
20:02 < daja77> please
20:04 < Mike1> daja77: the link is down
20:04 < daja77> huh, I can reach it from here
20:04 < Mike1> mm
20:05 < daja77> well and please do not download
20:05 < Mike1> ok it works
20:05 < daja77> fine
20:05 < daja77> again please do not download
20:06 < Mike1> thanks.
20:06 < daja77> sorry it is just isdn
20:06 < daja77> so downloading takes ages, and I want to help george :)
20:13 * Mike1 is away: eating
20:15 < rxr> re
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20:20 < _NULL_> hi blindcoder
20:26 < daja77> *puh* well 60% ported, have to leave now, will finish tomorrow
20:28 < daja77> bye bye
20:30 < rolla> == 13:27:47 =[5]=> Building rene/xsane [0.90 2.0.0-beta3].
20:33 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M266P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux
20:39 < tsa> daja77: what are you parting to?
20:39 < tsa> porting
20:46 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D02D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
20:48 < rxr> 680 builds total, 660 completed fine, 20 with errors.
20:48 < rxr> -beta3 desktop build ...
20:51 < tsa> show errors.
20:51 < tsa> any of my packages?
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21:00 < rolla> == 13:59:13 =[5]=> Building rene/gpa [0.6.1 2.0.0-beta3].
21:00 < tcr> Quite many netsplits in last days..
21:01 < rolla> I have had 5 packages fail to build :(
21:04 -!- Be-El [be-el@pD95254BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
21:04 < Be-El> hi ppl
21:05 < tcr> moin
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21:07 < tsa> moib Be-El
21:07 < tsa> s,b,n,
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21:12 < tcr> Once again...
21:13 < tcr> http://perso.wanadoo.fr/cyberhome-help/linux-ms.jpg
21:13 < Be-El> *g*
21:14 < tsa> http://internet.ls-la.net/pictures/Traffic-Ticket-of-the-NPD.html
21:21 * Mike1 is back (gone 01:08:08)
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21:24 < rolla> re Mike1
21:24 < Mike1> re all
21:24 < Be-El> hi Mike1
21:24 < rolla> I have 5 broken packages
21:25 < Mike1> Burkhard :)
21:25 < Mike1> rolla: which ones?
21:26 < tsa> hm....uucp is pretty cool.
21:27 < n00kie> sleep well guys :)
21:27 < tsa> cu n00kie
21:27 < Be-El> cu n00kie
21:27 < n00kie> Sleep well, Mike1, tsa, rxr, Be-El, and all the others :)
21:27 < rolla> small ones
21:28 < rolla> 3-coreutils.err
21:28 -!- k3t_ [~k3t@pD9005726.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
21:28 < rolla> 5-galeon12.err
21:28 < rolla> 5-gimp14.err
21:28 < rolla> 5-lame.err
21:28 < rolla> 5-sylpheed.err
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21:28 < Mike1> n00kie: sleep well??
21:29 < Mike1> rolla: mmm... coreutils...
21:29 < Mike1> brb
21:30 < n00kie> Mike1: I'll go to bed
21:30 < n00kie> <- Tired
21:31 < rolla> Mike1: yeah but stage 5 coreutil builds :)
21:31 -!- george [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux
21:31 < george> re
21:33 < tcr> LOL, "Cola für Allah"
21:33 < tcr> Scheibenwischer is great!
21:34 < rolla> ?
21:35 < rolla> == 14:17:00 =[5]=> Building kde31/qt31 [3.1.2 2.0.0-beta3].
21:36 < rolla> the waiting starts
21:36 < rolla> slow kde build
21:36 < tcr> rolla: Scheibenwischer (windscreen wiper) is a great satire serie in german tv..
21:36 < Be-El> rolla: add --enable-final to kde-31.conf
21:37 < daja77> george: http://lospalmos.homelinux.net/minimal/
21:37 < rolla> tcr cool
21:37 < rolla> Be-El: ?
21:37 < rolla> is it going to break?
21:37 < daja77> tsa: I port rtai to the 2.4.21-rc2 kernel
21:38 < tsa> ah
21:38 < rolla> and if it does I don't install KDE anyway just that the remove apps function in rock 1.7-2.0B sucks the big one
21:38 < tcr> rolla: Even a jest you can understand has been made some minutes ago... Some pun about G. Bush and 'ambush' as in 'I am Bush'
21:38 < Be-El> rolla: kde31 packages are build without --enable-final, which extremely speeds up things
21:38 < Be-El> .oO ( and sometimes breaks the build ;-) )
21:39 < daja77> re btw
21:39 < rolla> tcr :)
21:39 < rolla> Be-El: I will keep that in mind thanks
21:39 -!- Lorini [~andrea@p3EE218EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Angels are bright still, though the brightest fell.")
21:41 < Be-El> *sigh* why does updating gcc/glibc/linux always breaks my build tree....
21:41 < daja77> george: ping
21:42 < daja77> ah ic
21:42 < daja77> :)
21:42 < george> daja77: download in progress,
21:42 < george> daja77: btw, hi
21:42 < daja77> hehe I noticed
21:42 < daja77> slow connection ;)
21:42 < daja77> have fun
21:43 < george> I WILL!
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21:44 < daja77> hehe sure
21:45 < daja77> wb Lorini
21:46 < george> Q: intel_rng (Intel i810 Hardware Random Number Generator daemon), where shall I put it, into x86 or my own repository?
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21:48 < tsa> x86 (IMHO)
21:50 -!- Lorini [~andrea@p3EE218EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Angels are bright still, though the brightest fell.")
21:50 * jose is so happy, writing his chat server in c ! :-)
21:50 < rxr> george: x86 please
21:51 < rxr> or into base if it also works for the amd one and so on ...
21:51 -!- Be-El [be-el@pD95254BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
21:51 < Be-El> re
21:52 < george> rxr: I'll check if there's any i810 for AMD, but I don't think so...
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21:55 < tsa> re Be-El
21:55 < tfing> hi
21:56 < daja77> hi tfing :)
21:56 < tfing> is there another solution to the escape characters in man page viewed with less other than less -R ?
21:57 < tcr> That's still alive?
21:58 < tfing> at least on my system with up to date groff
21:58 < tcr> Hmm
21:59 < tcr> Well, once jimmy patched some package, downgraded groff -- some time later he upgraded it again with the assurence it should work now (haven't ever bothered again since that)
21:59 < daja77> rxr: I think I can send the patch with realtime target tomorrow
22:02 < tcr> tfing: (if the mail archive wasn't so crappy, you could search for it... but..)
22:04 < tfing> i just remembered clifford saying that less -R wasn't a solution and that nothing followed
22:06 < tcr> No, jimmy took a look at it, and as a result provided a patch (against less or man, dunno) and stated that groff has to be downgraded
22:06 < rxr> tfing: we still have this less -R thing in the source
22:06 < tfing> but it did not reached the cvs
22:06 < rxr> tfing: feel free to investigate this wohle mess ...
22:06 < tcr> tfing: Let me try to find his mail again
22:07 < rxr> Committed revision 255.
22:07 < daja77> omg
22:08 < rxr> daja77: merges from the list
22:08 < rxr> daja77: sure feel free to send your patch ;-)
22:08 < george> rxr: why is tcl and tk in one pkg?
22:08 < tfing> http://www.rocklinux.org/mailing-list/rock-linux/2003-1/269.html
22:08 < rxr> george: don't now - it always has been ...
22:09 < rxr> george: should we change this ?
22:09 < daja77> rxr: sure
22:09 < george> I have it already split up in my tree here.
22:09 < george> But where to put tcl (it contains a shell...)?
22:10 < tcr> tfing: Yeah, and some message above that mail, there's the patch
22:11 < tcr> tfing: http://www.rocklinux.org//mailing-list/rock-linux/2002-11/217.html
22:11 < tfing> google indexes well the mailing list archive :)
22:11 < tcr> So he actually didn't speak for an upgrade... Hmm
22:13 < rxr> Committed revision 256.
22:14 * daja77 smiles
22:14 < tfing> http://www.rocklinux.org/mailing-list/rock-linux/2002-10/3.html
22:15 < tfing> hmmm
22:15 < tfing> i will put a -R in my etc/profile
22:16 < rxr> tfing: alternatively investigate the whole issue - and cross validate what other dists or OS (BSD*) do ...
22:18 < tfing> will try to see that
22:19 < tcr> tfing: ftp://groff.ffii.org/pub/groff/groff-1.19.tar.gz
22:19 < tcr> tfing: Maybe the new version fixes this problem (though I didn't succeed in finding anything by looking briefly through the changelog)
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22:23 < Mike1> *yawn*
22:23 < daja77> wb Mike1
22:25 * daja77 tired too
22:25 < tsa> hm....what does this register_* stuff do that has been added to some of my packages?
22:27 < Be-El> tsa: looks like a registry for certain things, e.g. window manager
22:28 < tsa> this is needed for what?
22:28 < Be-El> dunno...perhabs a list of all window manager to choose from ?
22:28 < tsa> do we get a regedit.exe, too?
22:29 < Be-El> yeap...that's what the wine package is for
22:29 < tsa> hehe
22:29 < rxr> tfing: nope regedit == $EDITOR
22:30 < tfing> ver 1.19 does not solve the pb
22:30 < tsa> hm...registering an WM could be useful for {xdm,kdm,wdm,gdm,..}
22:30 < tsa> but why are some applications registered?
22:30 < Be-El> tsa: i think that's why it was introduced...
22:32 < tsa> ethereal and opera are now "registering" themselves, my other packages don't do this...
22:33 < Be-El> ihmo it would be more useful to introduce runtime dependencies...
22:33 < tsa> which leaves us with two basic questions: 1.) why are apps registered? 2.) where's the difference between registered and non-registered apps?
22:33 < tsa> rxr?
22:36 < tfing> http://www.gnu.org/software/groff/groff.html
22:36 < tfing> Note that you have to use the '-R' option of 'less' to make SGR escapes display correctly.
22:39 < rxr> mom
22:40 < tfing> To revert to the old behaviour, use the '-c' switch.
22:40 < tfing> so there should be a less -R or a roff -c
22:41 < tfing> from the man.conf:
22:41 < tfing> |# If you have a new troff (version 1.18.1?) and its colored output
22:41 < tfing> |# causes problems, add the -c option to TROFF, NROFF, JNROFF.
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22:43 < Be-El> hmm..over half an hour for building xfree....
22:43 * Be-El wants make -j 4
22:43 < tsa> hm..judging from a quick grep, this registry stuff is used nowhere...
22:45 < tsa> topic broken?
22:45 < tsa> $ svn co http://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk/
22:45 < tsa> svn: Bad URL passed to RA layer
22:45 < tsa> svn: Unrecognized URL scheme: "http://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk"
22:45 < tfing> tsa: compile neon
22:46 < tfing> then recompile svn
22:46 < tsa> *argh*
22:46 < tsa> do i have to install kde to make this work, too?
22:46 < tfing> :)
22:46 < tfing> only kcalc :)
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22:47 < Be-El> tsa: touch build/*/root/var/adm/logs/*dirtree*; ./rock_maintail -r *fg*
22:47 < Be-El> maintain even
22:47 < tsa> Be-El: no, i've found a better solution.
22:47 < tsa> ok, problem solved.
22:48 -!- LocalHero [~alexander@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux
22:48 < tsa> hi alexander
22:48 < Mike1> greetings Alex
22:48 < LocalHero> Hi :)
22:48 < LocalHero> Whats up?
22:48 < Be-El> hi LocalHero
22:48 < Mike1> the sky
22:49 < LocalHero> Ahh, at last, i have completed part of this semesters schoolwork. Now i finaly have a free weekend. Well, not free im planing on doing some html :)
22:49 < LocalHero> Mike1: LOL
22:49 < Mike1> LocalHero: you asked :)
22:49 < LocalHero> Mike1: :)
22:49 < LocalHero> Anybody have any isos ready yet=
22:49 < Mike1> i have tons of isos :)
22:50 < daja77> yeah minimal build
22:50 < daja77> target
22:50 < tsa> hm...i'm a little bit annoyed that _every_ change in a ROCK Linux minor version number imposes a change of the way the master repository has to be used.
22:50 < Mike1> LocalHero: got hd space for me?
22:50 < tsa> (.tgz -> rsync -> cvs -> svn)
22:50 < LocalHero> Mike1: sure. I think so, let me check :)
22:50 < tsa> what will come next, bk?
22:51 < tsa> <hint> freebsd's using cvs since it's beginnings..</hint>
22:51 < Mike1> [mike@nemesis rock-trunk]$ svn up
22:51 < Mike1> svn: RA layer request failed
22:51 < Mike1> svn: REPORT request failed on '/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk'
22:51 < Mike1> svn: REPORT of '/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk': timed out waiting for server (http://schillernet.dyndns.org)
22:51 < Mike1> [mike@nemesis rock-trunk]$
22:51 < Mike1> rxr: ??
22:51 < daja77> tsa: you seem to be angry
22:51 < LocalHero> Im working on this new system to uplaod isos. What do you think about this. A person that has a iso let me know to get a username and pw to the iso site
22:52 < Be-El> tsa: after testing svn i would say it's an improvement over cvs...it's noticeable faster in synching trees
22:52 < tsa> daja77: not really...
22:52 < daja77> hehe
22:52 < LocalHero> Then he gets this secret instruction to upload the file to the ftp in the upload dir. After that he logs into a page and marks the file and add some info and wahoo, we got a new iso :)
22:53 < daja77> george: would you up load minmal iso, when you got it?
22:53 < Mike1> LocalHero: do i still have the admin user you have created for me over 1 year or so ago?
22:53 < tsa> Be-El: what's 2 minutes sync time compared to days of building and rebuilding because of broken dependencies..?
22:53 < LocalHero> Mike1: I think so, i will remove them this week and start the system all over :)
22:53 < daja77> gn8 you all
22:53 < Be-El> cu daja77
22:54 < LocalHero> Mike1: but you can ftp upload them to iso.rocklinux.de/.upload/
22:54 < LocalHero> Mike1: I currently have 3gb free on that disc
22:54 < tsa> the main problem seems to be that the maintainers don't use all the features a revision control system provides, like branches, release tagging, different versions in one repository etc..
22:54 < Be-El> LocalHero: doesn't the iso image itself contain information about its content ?
22:55 < tsa> ( i would appreciate write access for my packages, for example)
22:55 < LocalHero> Be-El: Well that is true. But if you are planing on downloading a iso you dont want to speend all day downloading it just to se that it didnt was what you wanted
22:55 < tsa> LocalHero: you found porn movies on the iso site? ;-))
22:56 < Be-El> LocalHero: the upload mechanism should check it...e.g. by a hourly cron job that looks for new isos, scans them and puts them onto the webpage
22:56 < Be-El> LocalHero: and removes unwanted pr0n, too ;-)
22:56 < LocalHero> tsa: Hehe, well i think a manual version is better. Then we can make sure that no unauthorised isos are put there
22:57 < Be-El> .oO ( or moves them to ~/root/recreation, your choice ;-) )
22:57 < LocalHero> :)
22:58 < LocalHero> The thing with the upload dir is that you cant see it with ls and you can only upload to it, not read or delete so i dont think anybody would waste time uploading things there
22:58 < tsa> Be-El: hm....
22:59 < Mike1> LocalHero: how much disk space do you have in total?
22:59 < LocalHero> Well we will se after this weekend. My girlfriend has an essay to write so i can do some coding without beeing interupted :)
22:59 < LocalHero> Mike1: 2x40gb
22:59 < Mike1> LocalHero: and you only have 3gb available
22:59 < Mike1> :((
22:59 * Mike1 thinks its to get LocalHero a 200gb hd..
23:00 < LocalHero> I wounder if we could get some sponsors, it would be nice to have a couple of real nice computers that could do nightly boilds or something. Im planning on calling some companies to get them to sponsor us? Any idees?
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23:00 < Mike1> LocalHero: yes beg for hardware :)
23:01 < Mike1> LocalHero: talk to Jocelyn, she could help you with PR stuff and ideas to get sponsors
23:01 < LocalHero> Mike1: Well currently i have problem with allocating the space. The ftp drive is on one disc and the rest on the other. So you can say i only have contributed with 40gb to the project :)
23:02 < Mike1> LocalHero: jyeo@linuxmail.org <--- Jocelyn
23:02 < LocalHero> I also think that we could clean up some old pre isos to get some more space
23:02 < LocalHero> Mike1: Ok i will talk to her :)
23:02 < Mike1> :)
23:03 < LocalHero> Mike1: Who is she by the way? Your secret lover maybe :)
23:03 < Mike1> LocalHero: please respect she is married to a good friend of mine
23:04 < Mike1> LocalHero: she is the ROCK PR person in charge
23:04 < Mike1> LocalHero: http://www.rocklinux.org/people/esden/gallery/
23:04 < Mike1> LocalHero: you will find her there
23:04 < LocalHero> By the way. I was thinking of maybe upgrading to serial ata on my home computer. Does anybody know if the new promise controllers will work on 2.4? I couldnt find any drivers for them :(
23:04 < LocalHero> Mike1: :)
23:05 < LocalHero> Mike1: ahha, oki, i will send her a message :)
23:07 < Mike1> LocalHero: good
23:08 < LocalHero> Well, need to take a bath now. I cut my hair today and now i got those small hair things irretating my neck :)
23:09 < LocalHero> Cya all :-)
23:09 < Mike1> cu Alex
23:09 -!- LocalHero [~alexander@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has quit ("Client Exiting")
23:09 < rxr> back
23:10 < Be-El> .oO ( man 1 vacuum cleaner....)
23:10 < Mike1> welcome back
23:10 < Mike1> rxr: svn: REPORT of '/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk': timed out waiting for server (http://schillernet.dyndns.org)
23:11 < rxr> Mike1: works here ..
23:12 < rxr> tsa: the register-* think
23:12 < daja77> *argl* my routing box was fsck up
23:12 < Mike1> rxr: mm...
23:12 < daja77> george: can please do a wget -c, sorry
23:12 < tsa> rxr: looks like it's not used anywhere.
23:12 < rxr> we have register_wm - so that all wm's show up in the various graphical login managers
23:13 < rxr> tsa: they are _new_ thay start to get used
23:13 < rxr> the register_app thing is for a nice sorted application tree to be shown in KDE GNOME WindowMaker, blackbox ... whatever environment
23:13 < tsa> rxr: what about register_app?
23:13 < tsa> ah
23:14 < rxr> since KDE and GNOME have only some defaults and the others have even few
23:14 < Be-El> rxr: kde got kappfinder....
23:14 < rxr> so we want to provide a menu entry with the useful ones (read not any toy stuff only the reasonable stuff)
23:14 < tsa> so why is {opera,ethereal} registered, but other packages aren't {nessus}?
23:15 < daja77> Mike1: can you tell george, I really must go now, the server is up again, btw could you verify this
23:15 < rxr> tsa: none is registered yet - because I rejected all of those patches ...
23:16 < Mike1> daja77: yes is up.
23:16 < tsa> ack.
23:16 < tsa> <- just sent a nack, too.
23:16 < daja77> Mike1: thank you very much, I hate fscking up routers
23:16 < rxr> tsa: theoretically any app can be registered - but we should keep care the this does not become a big mess - so we should only register really usefull ones ...
23:17 < daja77> Mike1: ok please tell him, gn8
23:17 * tsa considers nessus to be pretty useful ;)
23:18 * daja77 waves
23:18 < Mike1> n8 daja77
23:18 < tsa> xchat too, btw ;)
23:18 < Mike1> rxr: something is wrong with ur svn, it really doesn't work, neither from here, canada or singapore...
23:19 < rxr> can anyone here in .de confirm that my schillernet.dyndns.org does not work ?
23:20 < Be-El> works fine for me
23:20 < Mike1> damn routing problems...
23:20 < Be-El> but the svn does not work
23:20 < Mike1> Be-El: thats what i ment
23:21 < Mike1> rxr: so i am not the only one.
23:22 < rxr> a yes - I'll take a look in some seconds
23:22 < Mike1> rxr: please :)
23:27 < Be-El> anyways...i'm off now
23:28 < Be-El> cu tommorw
23:28 < Be-El> +o
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23:29 < rxr> Recovery is running, please stand by...
23:30 -!- cOdEz [~codez@p50905A13.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving")
23:31 < rxr> I think it is time to setup te hot-mirroring to gsmp.tfh-berlin.de - for speed and backup reasons ...
23:42 < george> Mike1,daja77: sorry, I was interrupted. Got the message...
23:43 * george is away: busy
--- Log closed Fri May 16 00:00:55 2003