--- Log opened Tue May 20 00:00:04 2003
--- Day changed Tue May 20 2003
00:00 < _NULL_> gn8
00:00 < ringo78> n8 nully
00:01 < esden> good evening
00:01 < esden> urgh ... it is so late already?
00:02 < Mike1> hi esdy
00:04 < esden> hi miky
00:04 < esden> ;-)
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00:15 < Mike1> n8 all
00:16 * Mike1 gone to bed ... YES i am tired >_<
00:24 < esden> good night Mike1 
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01:35 < esden> n8
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03:53 < mnemoc_> hi n00kie
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04:36 < holyolli> moin
04:37 < mnemoc> hi holyolli
04:37 < holyolli> hi mnemoc
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06:45 < rxr> 688 builds total, 660 completed fine, 15 with errors.
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07:53 < rxr> Finishing build.
07:58 < netrunner> Build aborted again, disk full :(
07:58 < netrunner> rxr: I have 738 packages here, how much is missing?
08:01 < rxr> the number of active packages is displayed when runnin the ./scripts/Config
08:01 < rxr> cu
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08:43 < netrunner> moin btw :)
08:45 < _NULL_> echo $CLASSPATH= ??? someone have java? thx in adavance
08:45 < _NULL_> hi...
08:47 < baka-chibi> s/have/hate/
08:47 < baka-chibi> :)
08:47 < baka-chibi> moin nully :)
08:47 < _NULL_> hi baka-chibi
08:47 < _NULL_> *arghl* you should not hate it... i need $CLASSPATH... because of this school-shit here.
08:48 < _NULL_> this teacher is as stupid as "amoebe" - no. a amoebe is more clever
08:48 < baka-chibi> _NULL_: unfortunately my home-machine is currently in one of two states: a) DoS or b) panic else I could tell you :-)
08:48 < _NULL_> ouch
08:49 < baka-chibi> the result is the same: crazyhorse is unreachable -_-'
08:49 < _NULL_> hmmm.
08:50 * baka-chibi == blindcoder btw. :-)
08:50 * _NULL_ counting seconds until this school-day ends
08:50 < baka-chibi> _NULL_: hasn't it just started? *eg*
08:51 < _NULL_> baka-chibi: yes... about 64 minutes of 480 ... *cries*
08:53 * baka-chibi gives _NULL_ a package of tissues
08:53 < _NULL_> baka-chibi: thx. but. doesn't help. not in this class. not in this school.
08:54 < baka-chibi> hrm
08:57 < jsaw> good morning.
08:57 < _NULL_> hi jsaw
08:58 < _NULL_> YES! now someone screems like someone who is killed! *AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH*
08:58 < jsaw> hi _NULL_
08:59 < baka-chibi> hi jsaw
08:59 < baka-chibi> _NULL_: you? :D
09:00 < _NULL_> baka-chibi: nope. but "m." the idiot who useses bottles to bat someone with it...
09:00 < _NULL_> (or better: one of the idiots)
09:02 < jsaw> hi baka-chibi
09:02 < baka-chibi> hrm
09:02 < _NULL_> baka-chibi: :p
09:03 < baka-chibi> there are better tools to beat someone up
09:03 < _NULL_> baka-chibi: hmmm... but acting like in "kindergarten" is not usual if you're in an IT-class and are over 3 years old... (he is afaik 18 or 19)
09:04 < baka-chibi> hrm... they say (whoever "they" may be) that men always lack behind a few years behind women... maybe he's an extreme case :P
09:05 < _NULL_> baka-chibi: *lol*  extreme case... you mean, if he/they are 100 years old, they  will be as intellecutal as an 20 year old women? ;)
09:06 < _NULL_> assholes as they life: http://news.zdnet.de/story/0,,t101-s2134900,00.html
09:07 < baka-chibi> might be, might not be. I can't tell the future, you know.
09:07 < _NULL_> baka-chibi: hmm...
09:07 < baka-chibi> hrm... a news-link from ow...
09:07 < baka-chibi> I wonder if I should open it
09:07 < _NULL_> nope. it makes you thinking to jump out of the window
09:08 < baka-chibi> _NULL_: well... isn't that old news already?
09:08 < _NULL_> they are such assholes... that's incredible. someone knows where to get automatic guns? i want to kill somebody...
09:08 < baka-chibi> I thought they said this about 2 or more weeks ago already
09:08 < _NULL_> baka-chibi: nope... 15 hours old...
09:09 < baka-chibi> I can definately remember SCO saying that UNIX Code got "copied" into Linux weeks ago
09:09 < _NULL_> hmm...
09:09 < baka-chibi> oand there's nothing else in that article
09:09 < baka-chibi> It would be news if they finally SHOWED us where the "copied" code is
09:09 < baka-chibi> but up until today they still owe us the proof
09:09 < _NULL_> k. but... it could happen...
09:10 < baka-chibi> It could. But until now it hasn't and I don't think they can _prove_ that it was directly stolen
09:10 < _NULL_> hmmm.. yes...theoretically... but if you have money you can buy "richter"
09:11 < baka-chibi> I think they ran something like `egrep -r 'for ([a-zA-z]*' /usr/src/linux/` and then said "WE FOUND SOMETHING!"
09:11 < _NULL_> hmmmm...
09:12 < baka-chibi> or something equally trivial
09:12 < _NULL_> but anyways. "fsck. this world is shit"
09:12 < baka-chibi> like 0xdeadbeef or something
09:12 < _NULL_> isn't it possible in the USA to patent codes of line, also?
09:12 < baka-chibi> oh come on. You can't do anything about it but wait. Why get heated up about it?
09:13 < _NULL_> why get heated? because i'm using linux maybe
09:13 < baka-chibi> hmm... I know neither the American nor the International or any other patent law
09:13 < baka-chibi> But one thing is for sure:
09:13 < baka-chibi> I already have the linux kernel sources on my machine
09:13 < baka-chibi> And I'm damn well going to use it
09:14 < _NULL_> i guess to remember something like this... and afaik you can "verlangen" money for it
09:14 < baka-chibi> _NULL_: I'm using it, too. But that's no reason to get depressed about something that I have NOT A BIT OF CONTROL OVER
09:15 < _NULL_> baka-chibi: oh sure it is. you can say "oh. they did shit. damit. i have to pay money now. and have no alternatives to choose a free *nix derivat anymore" or you can say "i want to organise something against this shit"
09:16 < baka-chibi> okay, then why are you whining here instead of organizing something?
09:16 < baka-chibi> AND
09:16 < _NULL_> baka-chibi: i'm going to make a website about it
09:16 < baka-chibi> you don't have to pay money YET and I don't think we'll evver HAVE TO
09:17 < baka-chibi> where? the-null.de.vu where nobody is likely to ever see it?
09:17 < _NULL_> you think. because you thinkg, that everything will become fine...
09:17 < _NULL_> baka-chibi: where else...
09:17 < _NULL_> should i better hack microsoft.com and sco.com or what? *ARGH*
09:17 < baka-chibi> stuff like this has happened before. And it has been stopped more often tahn not.
09:17 < _NULL_> hmm. when e.g.?
09:18 < baka-chibi> that'd make a stand, but it would only play into their hands
09:18 < _NULL_> why?
09:18 < baka-chibi> The Linux Trademark issue
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09:18 < baka-chibi> moin Mike1
09:18 < _NULL_> never heard about ito
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09:19 < baka-chibi> _NULL_: now you're disappointing me. Have you never read "Just for Fun?"
09:19 < _NULL_> baka-chibi: i have... about 1 year ago.
09:20 < _NULL_> http://www.heise.de/tp/deutsch/inhalt/te/7947/1.html
09:21 < baka-chibi> let's see if I can find something...
09:22 < baka-chibi> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=2559
09:22 < baka-chibi> here's something
09:25 < _NULL_> k. thx
09:30 < baka-chibi> in a nutshell, someone registered the Trademark for "Linux", Linus didn't want to get involved in politics and such, went on vacation, and when he came back the Trademark was given to him. I don't remember who funded the process.
09:30 < baka-chibi> Some time later, some company wanted to buy the Trademark from Linus for $10.000.000
09:31 < baka-chibi> He pretended(?) to not understand what the man wanted, because everyone was free te use Linux and the name Linux together with the Linux kernel
09:34 < _NULL_> hmm
09:37 < baka-chibi> wow. she's spechless ;)
09:37 * baka-chibi changes mode +v _NULL_ 
09:39 < _NULL_> baka-chibi: hmh
09:50 * jsaw is away: meeting
10:35 < netrunner> *YES* finished build!!! my first!! *yipee*
10:36 < capchaos> congrats, netrunner
10:36 < netrunner> .o( and I am not at home to burn it :( )
10:37 < baka-chibi> netrunner: take it easy. I can't even connect to my home machine ATM
10:38 < netrunner> I see 23 .err's here. Shall I send them to the ml?
10:38 < netrunner> or at least their names, if someone is interested...
11:11 < kasc> moin
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12:41 < baka-chibi> *lol*
12:41 < baka-chibi> here's somenthing for _NULL_
12:41 < baka-chibi> _NULL_: debug1: waiting for SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS
12:41 < baka-chibi> debug1: newkeys: mode 0
12:41 < baka-chibi> debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received
12:41 < baka-chibi> debug1: done: ssh_kex2.
12:41 < baka-chibi> debug1: send SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST
12:41 < baka-chibi> debug1: service_accept: ssh-userauth
12:41 < baka-chibi> debug1: got SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT
12:41 < baka-chibi> debug1: authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interacti
12:41 < baka-chibi> ve
12:41 < baka-chibi>  ROCK Linux 1.5/1.6 is depricated please use 1.7/2.0 instead : ROCK Linux appro
12:42 < baka-chibi>                     together with the Linux kernel
12:42 < baka-chibi> 09:34 < _NULL_> hmm
12:42 < baka-chibi> 09:37 < baka-chibi> wow. she's spechless ;)
12:42 < baka-chibi> 09:37  * baka-chibi changes mode +v _NULL_
12:42 < baka-chibi> 09:39 < _NULL_> baka-chibi: hmh
12:42 < baka-chibi> 09:50  * jsaw is away: meeting
12:42 < baka-chibi> GAAH
12:42 < baka-chibi> sorry, wrongmouse-key
12:43 < baka-chibi> _NULL_: Humans may have a limitless ability to ignore unpleasant facts, but we're also able to endure truly awful realities: high school, boot camp, root canals, going public, life--as long as we know it's only for a while and we'll never have to do it again.
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12:58 < rxr> re
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14:32 < rolla> re
14:34 < esden> re hi all
14:34 * -> esden kills netrunner ;-)
14:34 < esden> his box is way too fast!! >_<
14:36 < mnemoc> == 05/20/03 07:54:23 =[3]=> Finished building package gettext.
14:36 < mnemoc> == 07:59:05 =[3]=> Building base/zlib [1.1.4 2.0.0-beta3].
14:36 < mnemoc> 4.6 minutes between two packages :(
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14:40 < rolla> == 07:33:18 =[1]=> Building base/glibc23 [2.3.2 2.0.0-beta3].
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14:43 < esden> ok ... I am off for learning ... cu l8er
14:48 < rolla> :)
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15:05 < _NULL_> re
15:06 < _mnemoc> OT: anybody knows how to remove the emptyline after <pre /> with CSS?
15:06 < _mnemoc> hi _NULL_
15:07 < _NULL_> hi _mnemoc
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15:10 < _NULL_> hi aszlig
15:11 < aszlig> hi
15:13 < rolla> re _NULL_
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15:18 < rolla> blindcoder: baka chi1i ?
15:19 < blindcoder> no, baka-chibi
15:19 < blindcoder> but that one is in use from apollo
15:19 < rolla> :)
15:20 < _NULL_> O_o
15:20 < baka-chibi> bye bye :-)
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15:20 < blindcoder> okay, that's that
15:22 < blindcoder> now, while the FS is recovering, I'll get a coffee
15:28 < _mnemoc> a coffe?? what fs?
15:29 < _NULL_> blindcoder: use EXT3 !
15:30 < blindcoder> _NULL_: it IS ext3... and it won't recover because the fscking journal is damaged
15:31 < _NULL_> shit. caused by what?
15:32 < rolla> _NULL_: reiserfs is better than ext3
15:32 < _NULL_> rolla: ...
15:34 < rolla> ja
15:35 < _mnemoc> rolla: have you tested reiser4?
15:35 < _NULL_> *ARGHL* this inet connection is crap!!!
15:36 < rolla> _mnemoc: no I have not been that brave :)
15:38 < blindcoder> _NULL_: hrm... I'm not sure
15:38 < blindcoder> _NULL_: it may have been the power-shortage this night in combination with lack of USV
15:39 < blindcoder> _NULL_: or it might have been powerful punches against the computer's case yesterday evening
15:43 < _NULL_> blindcoder: args. you should not kick your computer
15:51 < _NULL_> school = over. (and survived)
15:51 < _NULL_> ciao
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16:34 < Mike1> moin
16:37 < rolla> re Mike1
16:41 < rolla> == 09:39:32 =[1]=> Building base/gcc3 [3.2.3 2.0.0-beta3].
16:42 < netrunner> wonderful. now with svn 320, some packages fail because of wron configure options?
16:42 < mnemoc> mm?
16:44 < netrunner> configure: error: --bindir=/space/rock-trunk/build/bootdisk-2.0.0-beta3-x86-bootdisk-expert/root/usr/bin: invalid option; use --help to show usage
16:44 < netrunner> --- BUILD ERROR ---
16:48 < mnemoc> which package?
16:49 < netrunner> that was 0-m4
16:50 < netrunner> 1-m4, sry
16:50 < Mike1> 0_o
16:50 < mnemoc> o_O
16:50 < rxr> re
16:50 < Mike1> netrunner: show the whole error on a uery please
16:51 < Mike1> welcoime back rxr
16:51 < Mike1> s/uery/query
16:51 < netrunner> hm ... termcap shows similar:
16:51 < netrunner> Running  ./configure --prefix=/space/rock-trunk/build/bootdisk-2.0.0-beta3-x86-bootdisk-expert/root/usr --bindir=/space/rock-trunk/build/bootdisk-2.0.0-beta3-x86-bootdisk-expert/root/usr/bin --sbindir=/space/rock-trunk/build/bootdisk-2.0.0-beta3-x86-bootdisk-expert/root/usr/sbin --libdir=/space/rock-trunk/build/bootdisk-2.0.0-beta3-x86-bootdisk-expert/root/usr/lib --datadir=/space/rock-trunk/build/bootdisk-2.0.0-beta3-x86-bootdisk-exp
16:51 < netrunner> --localstatedir=/space/rock-trunk/build/bootdisk-2.0.0-beta3-x86-bootdisk-expert/root/var --disable-debug --disable-nls --without-libpam --without-pam --disable-libpam --disable-pam --build=i686-nocross-linux-gnu --host=i386-pc-linux-gnu --enable-install-termcap --cache-file=config.cache
16:51 < netrunner> configure: error: --bindir=/space/rock-trunk/build/bootdisk-2.0.0-beta3-x86-bootdisk-expert/root/usr/bin: invalid option; use --help to show usage
16:51 < netrunner> --- BUILD ERROR ---
16:52 < Mike1> this is not good
16:52 < Mike1> rxr: have you changed anything that may be affecting this?
16:53 < Mike1> netrunner: what revision is this?
16:53 < netrunner> Mike1: 320. This did not happen in 300
16:53 < netrunner> is there a command to revert to a previous revision?
16:54 < tfing> svn up -r 300 i guess
16:54 < Mike1> netrunner: there must be, thought i'm not very skilled with svn yet so i do not know
16:54 < Mike1> netrunner: try what tfing said
16:54 < netrunner> tfing: thx, I'll try If it was that.
16:55 < tfing> they mostly copied cvs interface so it should work
16:55 * netrunner -> rebuild/learn
16:59 < mnemoc> Mike1: script/functions Autodetection was updated
17:01 < Mike1> arrgg..
17:01 < Mike1> thats our bitch
17:02 < Mike1> i guess there must be a typo somewhere
17:06 < rxr> oops
17:06 < rxr> yes - I just saw this in my install-disk build - I'm just fixing this
17:07 < Mike1> good.
17:07 < rxr> you can also revert one revision with "svn merge -r 666:665" (or so)
17:08 < rxr> Mike1: I'm commiting
17:08 < rxr> Committed revision 321.
17:09 < Mike1> thx rxr
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17:29 < rxr> Mike1: and - does it work ?
17:31 < Mike1> netrunner: have you tryed it?
17:32 < Mike1> rxr: my build is not yet there, netrunning is the one that can test it for us
17:32 < rxr> for me it works ;-) Otherwise it wouldn't have been commited ..
17:32 < Mike1> rxr: i belive it works, otherwise you will hear from me again :)
17:38 < rxr> Committed revision 322.
17:39 < rxr> Committed revision 323.
17:39 < Mike1> mmh.. what have you changed on those config files?
17:40 < rxr> which config files ?
17:40 < rxr> Committed revision 324.
17:40 < Mike1> the ones modified on revision 322
17:40 < Mike1> rxr:
17:41 < Mike1> U  package/gnome2/glib22/glib22.conf
17:41 < Mike1> U  package/gnome2/glib22/gnome-2.conf
17:41 < Mike1> U  package/gnome2/scrollkeeper10/scrollkeeper10.conf
17:41 < Mike1> A  package/gnome2/scrollkeeper10/scrollkeeper.conf
17:41 < Mike1> U  package/gnome14/glib12/gnome-14.conf
17:41 < rxr> svn diff -r 321:322
17:41 < Mike1> grrr...
17:41 < rxr> svn log -r 322
17:41 < rxr> scrollkeeper flist-del factored out into a seperate config,
17:41 < rxr> which now also used by gnome-14
17:41 < rxr> svn _IS_ your friend
17:41 < Mike1> :)
17:42 < Mike1> yes indeed
17:52 < rxr> Committed revision 325.
18:13 * blindcoder back
18:17 < blindcoder> hrm...
18:17 * blindcoder has just updated today to 320
18:17 * blindcoder wonders whether he will be able to start a current build before 2.0.0-final...
18:17 < tfing> rxr: do you still accept version updates for 2.0.0 ?
18:18 < blindcoder> tfing: I thinrk so... KDE was updated, too
18:18 < tfing> ok
18:21 < Mike1> blindcoder: update ur svn again 320 has a terrible bug
18:21 < Mike1> hi blindy btw
18:21 < blindcoder> Mike1: which?
18:21 < blindcoder> hi Mike1 ktw :)
18:21 < blindcoder> btw :)
18:21 < Mike1> blindcoder: update to 325
18:21 < blindcoder> Mike1: I updated to 320 a few hours ago >_<
18:21 < blindcoder> *argh*
18:22 < blindcoder> I really want to do a build befor 2.0.0-final >_<
18:23 < Mike1> blindcoder: just update it again please
18:23 < Mike1> blindcoder: you will regret not to.
18:23 < blindcoder> hrm... okay >_<
18:24 < rxr> tfing: yes - I also updated some stuff my self (e.g. kde-3.1.2 and so)
18:24 < blindcoder> and 5 Minutes later Rene announces rev 326 >_<
18:24 < daja77> re
18:24 < rxr> blindcoder: the configure option detection is broken in your revision
18:25 < rxr> the current state is nearly -beta3
18:25 < Mike1> hi daja77
18:25 < daja77> blindcoder: take it easy ;)
18:25 < daja77> hi Mike1
18:25 < rxr> only boot fixes for the x86 and ppc code will be applied.
18:25 < rxr> hi daja77
18:25 < blindcoder> svn diff -r 320:325 # ?
18:26 < daja77> rxr: what do you think should I burn rev 290 iso are wait a minute to check out rev 330?
18:26 < Mike1> rxr: what about sparc/saprc64!?!?
18:26 < rxr> Mike1: this will enforce more changes I currently do not have the time for
18:27 < rxr> you could do so - and I will do so if Riplcaw really sends a 4xx Mhz SPARC over ...
18:27 < Mike1> rxr: oks..
18:27 * daja77 happy
18:27 < rxr> but wathching my current 270Mhz SAPRC compiling is just wasted time (and I do not want to test an installatin on it since it is currently a 1.7 build really well ...)
18:28 < rxr> s/it is/it is running/
18:29 < daja77> well my patch made it to rtai list, this is really nice...
18:30 < blindcoder> okay, updated to 325
18:30 < daja77> ...and the maintainer told that the problem I have with it, is considered normal...
18:30 * daja77 bets 5 Euro that stable comes out before rev 400
18:31 < Mike1> rxr: i see..
18:31 < Mike1> rxr: do you have at least a usable 1.7 iso that i can use to install onb my u5?
18:31 * blindcoder bets 10 Euros against and says after 500
18:32 < daja77> hehe ok blindcoder let's shake hands
18:32 < rxr> Mike1: I never had a bootable ISO yet - there is at least four full-days of work before we have one ...
18:32 < rxr> you could have recent .gem files ...
18:33 < Mike1> rxr: could you upload them somewhere for me?
18:33 < Mike1> i want a usable sparc / sparc64 port..
18:34 < rxr> Mike1: me too - but I currently do far too less for university ... - if someone will sponsor the port it will be ready in four full days - otherwise other can contribute code
18:34 * rxr is not everyones free coder ... sorry
18:34 < Mike1> rxr: i'm not asking you to code my friend
18:35 < Mike1> rxr: i'm just wondering on the status of the port, or an iso so i can contribute
18:35 < daja77> that reminds me of doin this for university too >_<
18:36 < rxr> Mike1: you will get a bootable sparc ISO in the 2.0.x series - but when I need to do this, it will happen around x > 2 or so ...
18:36 * blindcoder @washing. bbl
18:37 < Mike1> rxr: i'm not an ignorant you know, i do know how rock stuff works, but having some news is something i was specting, anyways do not worry i will do my own stuff over here.
18:37 < rxr> daja77: yes university sucks majorly - that boring and unproductive
18:37 < daja77> rxr: full ack
18:37 < Mike1> rxr: okis we will see.
18:37 < daja77> hacking on rock is more fun...
18:37 < rxr> daja77: I some of this strange profs are even telling wrong stuff - and they do not really like to hear my corrections ...
18:38 < daja77> rxr: hehe yeah I know one of them, he is teaching OS, a winnt fan, who tells wrong facts about linux
18:39 < daja77> and he wants this false answers in the exams, this sucks
18:40 < rxr> or an in an (brain dead) assembly course when this damn person (who does not know anything newer than 286) asked my if I find my code that perfect, my answer was: No, but I wanted to waste as less time as possible with stuff I did ten years ago ..."
18:40 < daja77> *lol*
18:41 < daja77> well this prof tells that internet connections are handled by inetd...
18:43 < rxr> you mean any IP traffic ?
18:43 < daja77> yeah
18:44 < daja77> I only made a 2.7 in that exam, cos I didn't had that stupid idea
18:45 < rxr> hm - I would proof them the correct answer
18:45 < rxr> In "Programmieren 1/2" I also had correct the strange views of C++ all the time (strange Java freaks ...)
18:46 < daja77> well the whole "lehrstuhl" is trying to tell him that he is utterly wrong for years
18:46 < daja77> he still hasn't got it
18:46 < rxr> ah - ok
18:46 < daja77> *sigh*
18:46 < daja77> stubborn old man *gg*
18:47 < rxr> But I'm only at such a damn "university of applied science" (Fachhochschule) those really suck
18:48 < daja77> this is a university but sucks sometimes too
18:49 < rxr> even the programming course of my girlfirend's sister, she is studying Technischer Umweltschutz", are more interesting :-( I now help her with implementign some cgi stuff with shell code (introduction exercise) ...
18:51 < daja77> so maybe next week I can start with my "Studienarbeit"
18:52 < rxr> do you already have an topic ?
18:53 < daja77> not yet, but it will be implementing some algorithm on a cluster (hopefully the sparc cluster)
18:53 < Mike1> http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/watches/5eec/  <--- COOL!
18:54 < daja77> hmm /me in text mode now
18:54 < rxr> oh - what type of sparc ?
18:54 < daja77> new boxes, sun blade 100 afaik
18:55 < blindcoder> Mike1: yeah that thing looks interesting and expensive >_<
18:56 < Mike1> blindcoder: not _that_ expensive
18:56 < daja77> hmm remember the shipping costs
18:56 < blindcoder> Mike1: too expensive for me :-) It would interfere with my holiday plans :)
18:56 < blindcoder> daja77: question is: do they export this baby?
18:56 < daja77> blindcoder: holiday where?
18:57 < blindcoder> daja77: "kanarische Inseln", 2 weeks, 4 stars all inclusive\
18:57 < Mike1> blindcoder: yes they do export it :
18:57 < daja77> blindcoder: great
18:57 < Mike1> blindcoder: now there is one i really want: http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/watches/5cef/
18:58 < Mike1> but that one does fit my 'expensive' definition...
18:58 < Mike1> so i guess iw on't be able to get it yet..
18:58 < rxr> blindcoder: the clock is also available here in germany
18:58 < blindcoder> sw...sw... sweet @Mike1
18:58 < blindcoder> rxr: where?
18:58 < blindcoder> conrad?
18:59 * daja77 off for dinner
19:00 < rxr> blindcoder: saw it in some c't commercial ...
19:01 < blindcoder> hrm... don't have a c't handy... guess I have to "borrow" one tomorrow @work :-)
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19:08 < blindcoder> okay, found one seller from Oesterreich
19:13 < blindcoder> hrm... 98 EUR including shipping...
19:13 < rxr> == 05/20/03 19:10:18 =[5]=> Finished building package galeon12.
19:13 < Mike1> blindcoder: for the USB clock?
19:13 < blindcoder> Mike1: yes
19:13 < Mike1> blindcoder: so get it :)
19:13 < blindcoder> www.laks.com
19:14 < blindcoder> I'm seriously considering it
19:15 < rxr> ;-)
19:15 < Mike1> blindcoder: also my b-day is close you know...
19:15 < Mike1> *ggg*
19:15 < rxr> I also dream of authenticating with a sig on a USB stick/clock and carry ma GPG keys with me ...
19:15 < rxr> Committed revision 327.
19:15 * blindcoder knows nothing ;-)
19:16 < blindcoder> rxr: yes, that's the only thing I'd really need it for...
19:16 < blindcoder> GAH
19:16 < blindcoder> I haven't even downloaded the sources from 320 now... >_<
19:16 * Mike1 gets a bar of white chocolate...
19:16 * blindcoder eating nachos with hot dip
19:18 < rxr> blindcoder: no fat updates in the last commits
19:18 < rxr>  galeon12.conf |   30 ++++++++----------------------
19:18 < rxr>  1 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 22 deletions(-)
19:18 < blindcoder> phew, this "Eraes Pista" _IS_ HOT
19:18 < rxr> ok this will become -beta3:
19:18 < rxr> 688 builds total, 673 completed fine, 15 with errors.
19:19 < rxr>  [5] gnome2/gimp14                       [5] rene/sylpheed
19:19 < rxr>  [5] kde31/kdemultimedia31               [5] rene/koffice-i18n
19:19 < rxr>  [5] rene/kmatplot                       [5] kasc/paragui
19:19 < rxr>  [5] kasc/libsdl_perl                    [5] kasc/clanlib
19:19 < rxr>  [5] kasc/gnomemeeting                   [5] kasc/asc
19:19 < rxr>  [5] kasc/frozen-bubble                  [5] kasc/kapitalist
19:19 < rxr>  [5] kasc/openglad                       [5] kasc/pingus
19:19 < rxr>  [7] x11/imagemagick
19:19 < rxr> oh - I'll fix imagemagick before the release ;-)
19:19 < rxr> + x86 or ppc boot issues that might arise
19:20 < tfing> for the gnomemeeting, it is because the libs link are not created in openh323
19:21 < tfing> libopenh323.so -> /usr/lib/libh323_linux_x86_r.so and libpt.so -> libpt_linux_x86_r.so
19:26 < tfing> but that depends on the arch
19:28 < rxr> tfing: we could simply patch this $arch name out of the libname for all packagse that need the name ...
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19:33 < tfing> looking at the makefile
19:38 < _NULL_> re
19:38 < tfing> ok, stripped the arch from the name of the lib
19:38 < tfing> recompiling to see
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19:49 < tfing> hmmm, the link is supposed to be done by the make install in fact
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19:53 < esden> hi all
19:53 < daja77> re
19:53 < daja77> hi esden
19:54 < netrunner> hi esden
19:54 < n00kie> wb esden
19:54 < _NULL_> hi esden
19:56 < Mike1>  n00kie: shame on you hunting daja77
19:56 < Mike1> hi esdy
19:56 * daja77 kicks Mike1's ass
19:57 < Mike1> daja77: what did i do?
19:57 < daja77> nothing really...
19:57 * daja77 kicks again
19:57 < blindcoder> hi esden
19:57 * Mike1 grabs his sword, and cuts off daja77 reproductive organs
19:58 < blindcoder> esden: are you in IN tomorrow?
19:58 < _NULL_> hi blindcoder
19:58 < _NULL_> Mike1: :p
19:58 < Mike1> sup _NULL_
19:58 * daja77 takes his sword and deflects his attack
19:58 < Mike1> :PP
19:58 < Mike1> daja77: its late for that
19:59 < daja77> hehe no I am quick
19:59 < Mike1> daja77: sure but i am faster than you
19:59 < Mike1> :P
19:59 < daja77> haha
19:59 < daja77> Mike1 is known as a lame guy...
20:00 < Mike1> oh thank you very much
20:00 < daja77> ...
20:00 < daja77> :)))
20:02 < n00kie> ahh Mike1
20:02 < n00kie> Highlighted in all channels. ;)
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20:12 * Mike1 is away: eating
20:12 < daja77> *hmpf*
20:14 < rolla> The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
20:14 < daja77> hehehe
20:14 < daja77> hi rolla
20:14 < rolla> hallo
20:14 < rolla> Why do psychics have to ask you for your name?
20:14 < daja77> dunno
20:14 < netrunner> .o( this is linuxland. in silent nights you can hear rock smashing windows )
20:15 < rolla> :)
20:15 < daja77> :)
20:16 < rolla> == 12:55:22 =[5]=> Building base/linux24 [2.4.21-rc2 2.0.0-beta3].
20:16 < daja77> rolla: what about the psychics?
20:20 < rolla> it is a line from and email I got
20:20 < daja77> *gg*
20:20 < rolla> answers to dumb questions
20:21 < _NULL_> ???
20:21 < daja77> so what's the answer
20:24 < rolla> do I look lie a psychics?
20:24 < rolla> s/lie/like/
20:24 < daja77> lol
20:25 < _NULL_> ...
20:36 < blindcoder> hrm
20:36 < blindcoder> is there somewhere a "Build Static X Libraries"?
20:36 < _NULL_> hmh
20:39 * blindcoder watching anime again
20:39 < _NULL_> blindcoder: have fun
20:40 < _NULL_> blindcoder: CFLAGS="-static" make World  or something?
20:43 < esden> re
20:44 * -> esden hates windows >_<
20:44 < _NULL_> wb esden
20:44 < _NULL_> esden: windows??? why windows?
20:44 < esden> I had to boot that ... it takes ages in comparison to linux
20:44 < esden> ;-)
20:45 * daja77 points and laughs at esden
20:45 < rxr> cu
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20:45 < esden> daja77: :P
20:45 < _NULL_> why to boot win?
20:45 * netrunner fries bananas
20:46 < daja77> esden: sorry had just lots of fun reading solaris developer newsletter...
20:49 < rolla> daja77: it is fun :)
20:49 < esden> daja77: I would prefere to read that too .. instead of booting windoof
20:49 < rolla> esden: you must use windows?
20:49 < daja77> rolla: you got it too?
20:50 < esden> I had to .. to create win xp installdisks
20:50 < daja77> wtf?
20:50 < esden> not for me ... for a girl next door ;-)
20:50 < daja77> ah ic...
20:50 < _NULL_> haeh?!!!
20:51 < daja77> _NULL_: esden wants to have a beautiful girl, so if windows is an option...
20:52 < _NULL_> daja77: you mean to have an girl to teach her how to use linux
20:52 < daja77> me no
20:53 < _NULL_> .oO(men...)
20:53 < rolla> _NULL_: you are the one implying that he shoud use it to get to the girl
20:53 < daja77> no that was me...
20:55 < _NULL_> .oO(/me looks at herselfe and thinks "i don't wear a t-shirt 'blame me for everything', do i?"
20:55 < _NULL_> )
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20:55 * daja77 looks at _NULL_'s t-shirt and reads: blame me for _everything_!
20:55 < rolla> _NULL_: it is written in braile on your bra ;)
20:55 < daja77> hehe
20:56 < daja77> rolla: you only wanna check it, ...
20:56 < rolla> :P
20:56 * _NULL_ cries
20:56 < daja77> why
20:56 < rolla> why?
20:56 < _NULL_> you both are not friendly to me :p
20:57 < _NULL_> <-- innocent human
20:57 < rolla> one could say we are too friendly to you
20:57 < _NULL_> rolla: *kick*
20:57 < daja77> at least we havent been really nasty...
20:57 < rolla> what?
20:57 < daja77> rolla: don't worry she kicks quite often
20:58 < esden> I have to gather her trust first
20:58 < _NULL_> nothing, nothing
20:58 < esden> before I switch her to linux
20:58 < _NULL_> esden: tststs.
20:58 < _NULL_> *lol*
20:58 < rolla> esden: you sly dog you
20:58 < esden> *G*
20:58 < daja77> esden: not only switch to linux, eh?
20:58 < rolla> == 13:53:53 =[5]=> Building base/glibc23 [2.3.2 2.0.0-beta3].
20:58 < rolla> daja77: ha ha ha
20:59 < daja77> rolla: not everybody is married yet, here
20:59 < _NULL_> esden: if you and she are getting married, please send everyone from #rocklinux  an invitation :p
20:59 < esden> _NULL_: I will I will
20:59 < daja77> yeah great
20:59 < _NULL_> esden: well, then :)
21:00 * daja77 will bring fortune cookies for esden..
21:00 < esden> I only want to switch her sleeping place to .... erm ... I mean I only want to switch her computer to a linux machine
21:00 < esden> ;-)
21:00 < daja77> hmm ...............................
21:08 < rolla> :)
21:09 < netrunner> == 19:48:09 =[5]=> Building base/glibc23 [2.3.2 2.0.0-beta3].
21:09 < netrunner> == 05/20/03 20:16:24 =[5]=> Finished building package glibc23.
21:09 < netrunner> *ggg*
21:09 < _NULL_> netrunner: in stage 9, one package before the end, there will be thunder and will kill your PC ;p
21:10 < netrunner> _NULL_: you see, there _is_ a reason not to do the rebuild stage :)
21:10 < rolla> :)
21:10 < _NULL_> netrunner: *g* k. then... today in the night there will be thunder ;p
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21:15 * -> esden kicks netrunner 
21:16 * -> esden is looking forward to the thunder tonight ;-)
21:16 < daja77> hehe esden and _NULL_ are scaring...
21:16 < esden> daja77: MUAHAHAHA
21:16 * rolla cries
21:17 < daja77> rolla: why
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21:17 < rolla> I just had to load win2k on a 2x2.4G PIII xeon box
21:17 < rolla> 4G of ram
21:18 < rolla> I want so bad to take it and hide it to make it my rock build box
21:18 < daja77> and it took an hour *ggg*
21:18 < esden> rolla: why this ... that is blasphemy
21:18 < blindcoder> damn
21:18 < rolla> esden: work makes me do this
21:18 < rolla> I am not happy about it but it pays the bills
21:18 < esden> rolla: my condolences
21:18 < blindcoder> rxr should hurry up with 2.0.0-final >_<
21:18 < blindcoder> my root-fs is fubar'i
21:18 < blindcoder> my root-fs is fubar'd
21:19 < rolla> the only good news is I might get a PIII xeon 550 out of it for rock builds here at work
21:19 < daja77> rolla: life is cruel and let you do heartless things
21:19 < esden> blindcoder: you always menage it to fubar your root-fs ;-)
21:19 < blindcoder> esden: yes >_<
21:19 < blindcoder> esden: but currently it seems to have taken parts of the kernel with it...
21:19 < daja77> rolla: great
21:19 < daja77> blindcoder: why, your machine broken?
21:19 < blindcoder> just got a panic: CPU context error.
21:20 < blindcoder> daja77: erm... no... It just isn't shock-proof
21:20 < blindcoder> esden: strange thing was: I could tsill use my keyboard just fine, just any harddisk-IO was stopped
21:20 < blindcoder> esden: I could close shells and try to log in :-)
21:20 < daja77> strange
21:20 < blindcoder> daja77: indeed
21:21 < daja77> never had that problem with rene's tree
21:21 < rolla> how does one combine a bootdisk config and a desktop config into one cd ?
21:22 < esden> daja77: blindcoder is kicking his box regularly ... when he is doing stuff and it is not working as expected
21:22 < daja77> scripts/Create-ISO $name bootdisk desktop
21:22 < daja77> *lol*
21:22 < blindcoder> daja77: punch your case a few times _really_ hard when there's high IO, fubar your rootfs' journal, then remove it by force and remount as ext2
21:23 < blindcoder> daja77: then you'll have this result and I bet you can do this with anyone's tree and any distro :)
21:23 < blindcoder> daja77: that's true compatibility :D
21:23 < daja77> blindcoder: I don't need this
21:24 * -> esden is only petting his box ;-)
21:24 < blindcoder> alright, I'm back to watching Anime :)
21:25 < esden> have fun blindcoder 
21:25 < daja77> blindcoder: don't kick the tv?
21:25 < daja77> !
21:25 < esden> hehe ... radio 2 day is cool
21:25 < esden> best of house is coming now! *dance*
21:26 * daja77 feels sorry for esden...
21:26 < esden> why ... I like house
21:26 < daja77> ahem yes really, I must have forgot that
21:27 * -> esden also likes trance, rock, metal, goth
21:28 * daja77 likes esden 
21:28 * netrunner likes himself
21:28 < daja77> netrunner: hehe at least one...
21:29 < netrunner> daja77: *kick*
21:29 < daja77> ah no, only _NULL_ is allowed to kick me
21:29 < esden> daja77: ... thank you ... erm ... *no comment*
21:29 < daja77> *gg* remember I haven't said I love you
21:30 * Mike1 kicks daja77
21:30 < esden> Thank God!
21:30 * netrunner catches his foot right before it reaches daja
21:30 * Mike1 kicks daja77 again 
21:30 * Mike1 is back (gone 01:18:09)
21:30 < netrunner> _NULL_: sorry
21:30 < daja77> Mike1: back to code!
21:30 < netrunner> s/_NULL_/daja77
21:30 < rolla> Mike1:
21:30 < rolla> when are you going to have that kernel ready?
21:30 < Mike1> daja77: no way
21:30 * Mike1 kicks daja77 and invites esden to do the same
21:31 < daja77> Mike1: hehe down, not across *ggg*
21:31 * netrunner requests a more peacful environment *foldinghands*
21:31 * Mike1 stares at netrunner
21:31 * -> esden gets his katana and slays netrunner 
21:32 * -> esden off, delivering discs
21:32 * netrunner draws his mp5 "anyone want's some?"
21:32 < _NULL_> mp5?
21:32 * Mike1 passes his chainsaw to esden
21:32 < Mike1> esden: have fun
21:32 < daja77> esden: have fun with that girl
21:32 < netrunner> esden: remember: always use protected mode :)
21:34 < netrunner> _NULL_: machine pistol, used by military police afair
21:34 < daja77> netrunner: in this case it is called condomes ;)
21:34 < _NULL_> tsss
21:35 < daja77> .oO _NULL_ seeing me talking dirty...
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21:45 < esden> netrunner: sure ;-)
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21:53 < rene> re
21:53 < daja77> wb rene
21:54 < tcr> moin all
21:54 < daja77> hi tcr
21:54 < tcr> moin daja77
21:54 < blindcoder> H&K MP5?
21:55 * rene now on the iBook, hacking in bed ...
21:55 < daja77> great
22:09 < Mike1> esden: the developers gallery looks all fucked up with the new design..
22:09 < rolla> :)
22:11 < esden> Mike1: o_O ... what do you mean by fscked up?
22:11 < esden> it looks good to me
22:11 < rolla> Mike1: looks fine to me
22:11 < rolla> == 15:08:45 =[5]=> Building base/binutils [2.14.90.0.1 2.0.0-beta3].
22:11 < Mike1> esden deformed.
22:12 < Mike1> the workfields thing
22:12 < Mike1> mm..
22:12 < esden> Mike1: it looks ok to me ...
22:12 < netrunner> Mike1: also ok for me ... using lynx ...
22:12 < esden> are you watching it on a postcard sized monitor?
22:13 < Mike1> esden: using mozilla?
22:13 < esden> yes
22:13 < daja77> Mike1: you mozilla sucks *gg*
22:13 < Mike1> ah no its regular monitor
22:13 < Mike1> daja77: well it comes with rock...
22:14 * daja77 still working on his redhat box *bein ashamed*
22:15 < tcr> at me it's also somewhat deformated
22:18 < _NULL_> oh goth! some people are not dumb. they're brainless (*pointing to someone me knows*)
22:21 < tfing> yeah ! debugged openh323 package
22:35 < rene> tfing: and any results?
22:35 < tfing> rene: i sent a patch to the ml, it works fine i think
22:36 < tfing> i just modified the openh323.conf
22:36 < tfing> and gnomemeeting compiles fine with it
22:39 < netrunner> tfing: nice, thx. wanted to try it when I have set up my new server.
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22:49 < rolla> == 15:46:10 =[5]=> Building base/coreutils [5.0 2.0.0-beta3].
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22:51 < daja77> wb Mike1
22:51 < Mike1> thanks.
22:51 < daja77> :)
22:56 < rolla> re Mike1
22:56 < rolla> == 15:54:22 =[5]=> Building base/sed [4.0.6 2.0.0-beta3].
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22:58 < Mike1> == 14:02:19 =[5]=> Building x11/xfree86 [4.3.99.2 2.0.0-beta3].
23:03 < rolla> == 16:01:30 =[5]=> Building base/curl [7.10.4 2.0.0-beta3].
23:04 * daja77 building nothing :p
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23:07 < rolla> daja77: then you waste cpu cycles
23:07 < rolla> == 16:05:36 =[5]=> Building base/minicom [2.00.0 2.0.0-beta3].
23:08 < rene> n8 - cu
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23:08 < tsa> hi all
23:09 < daja77> hi tsa
23:09 < rolla> == 16:07:17 =[5]=> Building base/mtools [3.9.9 2.0.0-beta3].
23:09 < _NULL_> moin tsa
23:09 < daja77> rolla: maybe you are right
23:10 < rolla> I am always right :)
23:13 * daja77 fears rolla 
23:14 < rolla> jjwarum
23:15 < rolla> daja77: I have just learned that mandrake is worse than redhat to try and build rock linux on
23:15 < rolla> == 16:11:41 =[5]=> Building base/shadow [4.0.3 2.0.0-beta3].
23:16 * tsa not doing any builds in the next time...
23:16 < daja77> tsa: why
23:16 < daja77> rolla: yeah Mike1 told me this some weeks ago *gg*
23:17 < tsa> daja77: it _must not_ write to the system it builds on.
23:17 < tsa> i can't risk any data loss here.
23:17 < Mike1> hola tsa
23:17 < tsa> hi Mike1
23:17 < daja77> tsa: :(
23:25 < rolla> == 16:24:00 =[5]=> Building base/netkit-ftp [0.17 2.0.0-beta3].
23:26 < rolla> daja77: Mike1 told you that I am allways right?
23:26 < Mike1> rolla: nah, that Mandrake sucks the big time
23:28 * daja77 bets that rolla isn't always right 
23:42 < rolla> :)
23:42 < rolla> == 16:41:04 =[7]=> Building base/curl [7.10.4 2.0.0-beta3].
23:43 < Mike1> mm... minimal?
23:46 < daja77> btw any news from george and the minmal iso?
23:46 < Mike1> no.
23:55 < _NULL_> gn8
23:56 < Mike1> nacht _NULL_
23:57 < daja77> gn8 _NULL_
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