--- Log opened Tue May 27 00:00:11 2003
--- Day changed Tue May 27 2003
00:00 < fake> <- off
00:00 < fake> bye bye
00:00 < rxr> gruempf:      [=>...................]  recovery =  9.1% (3665440/40202560) finish=377.8min speed=1611K/sec
00:01 < fake> watch -n1 'cat /etc/raidsomething'
00:01 < fake> what was it again?
00:02 < fake> whatever. bye
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00:07 < rxr> well without a Build-Pkg: [==>..................]  recovery = 12.6% (5104584/40202560) finish=130.4min speed=4481K/sec
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00:14 < Mike1> mmm..
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00:26 < rxr> hi Mike1
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00:27 < Mike1> hi rxr :)
00:27 < Mike1> how are?
00:27 < inee> rxr: rene?
00:27 < Mike1> inee: yes.
00:27 < rxr> oh quite ok - and for you mike?
00:28 < inee> rxr: hey just wanted to ask how gsmp goes
00:28 < inee> Mike1: hi :)
00:28 < Mike1> rxr: fine, a bit tired, i have been really busy during the past days, and today is not the exception
00:28 < rxr> inee: hi - who are you?
00:28 < Mike1> hi inee :)
00:28 < inee> rxr: just a sec
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00:28 * inee searches for a good reminder :)
00:29 < Mike1> mmm... i've never been 'just a sec' ever.. how should this feel? *ggg*
00:29 < esden> good evening
00:29 < esden> I see that the channel got tainted today?
00:29 < rxr> hi esden
00:29 < Mike1> MPET! gott segne dich :)
00:30 < Mike1> tainted?
00:30 < rxr> esden: tainted?
00:30 < Mike1> NOTE to rxr: great minds think alike.
00:30 < esden> gruess gott Mike1 ;-)
00:30 < Mike1> :)
00:30 < esden> yes my friends tainted
00:31 < inee> rxr: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=506488&forum_id=5394
00:31 < _NULL_> why tainted?
00:31 < esden> by appearance of a person ...
00:31 < _NULL_> by fake`
00:31 < esden> nevermind
00:31 < esden> _NULL_: *no_comment*
00:31 < _NULL_> *lol* candidate got 100 points
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00:31 < esden> hi inee 
00:32 < inee> esden: hi :)
00:32 * _NULL_ laughs about esden and says "he is not here" :ppp
00:32 < esden> _NULL_: thank god
00:32 < esden> ;-)
00:32 < _NULL_> so you can speak witohout "dass deine worte im mund verdreht werden"
00:33 < rxr> inee: ah thanks!
00:33 < _NULL_> esden: you're welcome ;p
00:33 < inee> rxr: hows gsmp these days?
00:33 < esden> _NULL_: yes the wordreinterpretation machine is not here ;-)
00:33 < rxr> inee: let's open the gsmp channel for this ...
00:34 < inee> rxr: errr i've got a better idea :)
00:34 < inee> rxr: #lad :)
00:34 < esden> rxr: "schleichwerbung" ;-)
00:34 < _NULL_> esden: :) and - dammit - #rocklinux must be happy about this fact. *celebrating this day* ;p
00:34 < rxr> esden: nope I have not started this ...
00:34 < rxr> inee not lad today ...
00:34 < inee> why?
00:34 < inee> it's pretty quiet there :)
00:35 < rxr> well ok
00:35 < esden> _NULL_: lave it it is getting ridiculous ... this topic is not worth talking about ;-)
00:35 < _NULL_> esden: ;)
00:35 < esden> xawtv
00:36 < esden> argl wrong window
00:36 < _NULL_> tv = evil
00:37 < esden> :P
00:39 * _NULL_ takes esden 's tongue and "hammert" it onto the table with nails :p
00:40 < Mike1> :))
00:40 < _NULL_> *knock* *knock*
00:40 < esden> :F=========)
00:40 < _NULL_> esden: yes?
00:41 -!- [NeoCode] [NeoCode@RJ238159.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #rocklinux
00:41 < [NeoCode]> OOOOOOOOOPaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
00:41 < esden> that is an even longer tongue
00:41 < _NULL_> O_o
00:41 < [NeoCode]> Mike1: Hi !!!
00:41 < Mike1> oi [NeoCode]
00:41 < esden> [NeoCode]: ? do you have a problem?
00:41 < _NULL_> esden: *g*
00:41 < [NeoCode]> rolla: Cara Quanto tempo !!!
00:41 < Mike1> esden: forget it, its a brazilian greet.
00:41 < [NeoCode]> Mike1: Lembra do HiJacker ???
00:41 < Mike1> sim
00:42 < esden> hmm ... export LANG=en_EN
00:42 < Mike1> [NeoCode] = HiJacker
00:42 < Mike1> [NeoCode]: /join #rocklinux-br
00:46 < [NeoCode]> Mike1: Tem alguma loisa pra tradusir aeh ???
00:47 < Mike1> [NeoCode]: babel.altavista.com
00:47 < [NeoCode]> Mike1: Não presta !!!
00:48 < Mike1> :P
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00:51 < [NeoCode]> Mike1: mine ???
00:52 < Mike1> [NeoCode]: ah, mine = ROCK Linux package manager
00:52 < [NeoCode]> Mike1: send me screenshot ???
00:52 < Mike1> mm...
00:53 < Mike1> [NeoCode]: mine -i <pkg>.gem ...
00:53 < [NeoCode]> Mike1: no no
00:54 < Mike1> [NeoCode]: no screenshots :)
00:54 < [NeoCode]> Mike1: send me screenshot - mine running
00:54 < [NeoCode]> Mike1: Hmmmm
00:54 < Mike1> [NeoCode]: let me see..
00:55 < Mike1> [NeoCode]: http://www.rocklinux.org/screenshots.html
00:56 < [NeoCode]> Mike1: Hmmm
00:56 < Mike1> :))
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00:56 < A-Tui> hi
00:56 < Mike1> hola Aitor
00:56 < inee> esden: you there?
00:56 < A-Tui> hola Mike1!
00:57 * Mike1 wonders who is inee
00:57 < [NeoCode]> my machine is Pentium 200, no support SRC(source)
00:57 < Mike1> [NeoCode]: yes it does support src
00:57 < inee> Mike1: you missed the link :)
00:58 < Mike1> the sf link? nah i didn't, but i know nothing more than just Marek thing..
00:59 < inee> Mike1: well no personal homepage sorry :)
00:59 < Mike1> okis :)
01:00 < [NeoCode]> cya
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01:22 < inee> gnite rock&roll linuxers :)
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01:35 < rxr> [================>....]  recovery = 82.0% (33001380/40202560) finish=17.1min speed=7001K/sec
02:09 < esden> puhh
02:10 < rxr> cu later
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02:10 < esden> n8 everyone
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02:20 < rene> re
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02:20 < rxr> [=>...................]  recovery =  7.5% (3026008/40202560) finish=60.3min speed=10269K/sec
02:21 < rxr> I wow subversion checkouts already feel faster
02:22 < rxr> [==>..................]  recovery = 10.6% (4298556/40202560) finish=51.1min speed=11697K/sec
02:34 < mnemoc> hi rxr...
02:34 < mnemoc> i still getting timeouts from you :(
02:44 < rxr> mnemoc: hm?
02:44 < mnemoc> svn: REPORT of '/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk': timed out waiting for server
02:45 < mnemoc> are your recovering THAT disk?
02:45 < rxr> unbeliveable
02:45 < rxr> some seconds ago ti worked
02:45 < rxr> what command did you run?
02:45 < mnemoc> svn up
02:45 < rxr> shit
02:45 < rxr> Out of Memory: Killed process 197 (httpd).
02:46 < mnemoc> shit
02:46 < rxr> and I already added 200 MB more swap ...
02:46 < mnemoc> is svn too much for your box?
02:46 < rxr> mnemoc: which svn version are you using >
02:47 < mnemoc> svn, version 0.21.0 (r5639)
02:47 < mnemoc>    compiled Apr 26 2003, 17:18:40
02:47 < mnemoc> (client only)
02:48 < rxr> could you rebuild 0.23.0 - just to make sure this is no bug in just this version?
02:51 < rxr> or could you just reupdate in this moment?
02:52 < rxr> mnemoc: ?
02:52 < mnemoc> reupdate is in silence.... downloading new svn
02:52 < rxr> could you run the update now - with your old version?
02:53 < mnemoc> it is idleling
02:54 < mnemoc> now it waiting for the abort :-\
02:54 < rxr> hm? It works here ...
02:55 < mnemoc> ^C^C^C^C^C^C..... nothing yet
02:55 < mnemoc> i'll try from the other tree
02:55 < mnemoc> (the clean one)
02:56 < rxr> what do you mean with clean"
02:56 < rxr> ?
02:56 < mnemoc> i have three copies of rock-trunk here
02:57 < mnemoc> reference, building, and devel
02:57 < mnemoc> i was trying to svn up the devel... now i'm also svn up the reference
02:58 < mnemoc> At revision 396. <--- at reference
02:58 < rxr>   553 http      16   0  344m  95m  356 R  4.3 78.0   1:02.56 httpd
02:59 < mnemoc> i'll re-retry the 'devel'
02:59 < rxr> no please not yet
02:59 < rxr> wait a minute\
02:59 < mnemoc> ^C^C^C^C^C^C^C^C^C
03:00 < mnemoc> kill %1 ...outch...
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03:00 * mnemoc doing cleanup
03:01 < rxr> root:/# free
03:01 < rxr>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
03:01 < rxr> Mem:        125688     121832       3856          0       6044      48068
03:01 < rxr> -/+ buffers/cache:      67720      57968
03:01 < rxr> Swap:       872216     305840     566376
03:01 < rxr> you can retry
03:01 < rxr> tomorrow I'll update the hardware
03:02 < mnemoc> 872 of swap??
03:03 < rxr> jups
03:03 < mnemoc> how much svn needs?
03:04 < rxr> since today I know that it can eat up much during big diffing ...
03:05 < rxr> mnemoc: do you already do the up ?
03:05 < mnemoc> now
03:05 < mnemoc> i was cleanup-ing
03:06 < rxr> oO
03:06 < rxr> let it going - but I fear it will not succeed
03:07 < mnemoc> svn is TOO release dependent :(
03:08 < rxr> why do you think it is too release dependent?
03:08 < rxr> btw you can save CPU time by not compiling the new svn version - it will not help in our situatin here ...
03:08 * tfing starts a svn up
03:08 < mnemoc> when i used .20 i failed becasue the server was .21
03:08 < mnemoc> now i'm using .21 and you .23, and failed agian
03:09 < rxr> nope the server is sill 0.22.2 or so
03:09 < mnemoc> failed
03:09 < mnemoc> timeout
03:09 * tfing finishes the svn up
03:10 < tfing> svn 0.23 for me
03:10 < mnemoc> i'll update my svn
03:10 < rxr> mnemoc: this will not help
03:10 < mnemoc> :(
03:10 < rxr> it only fails because the server side is eating way too much memory ... :
03:10 < rxr>   555 http      16   0  344m  95m  396 R  3.0 78.1   1:03.80 httpd
03:10 < mnemoc> only a hardware update will help?
03:11 < rxr>   553 http       9   0  343m  244  244 S  0.0  0.2   1:03.15 httpd
03:11 < mnemoc> 78.1?
03:11 < mnemoc> i did that?
03:13 < rxr> I should update the hardware - and the svn people should also improve svn ..
03:14 < rxr> byw. the problem would be reduced by a great factor if we would switch from apache based serving to svnsrv based serving ...
03:14 < rxr> it would also speedup the checkouts and updates by a factor of 2 - and would reduce the memory presure by an even bigger factor ...
03:15 < rxr> we'll see tomorrow
03:17 < rxr> mnemoc: could you stop updating your devel tree until we fixed this bug tomorrow?
03:17 < rxr> cu tomorrow
03:18 < rxr> 555 http      16   0  344m  95m  396 R  3.0 78.1   1:03.80 httpd
03:18 < rxr> oops sorry
03:31 < mnemoc> i'll not kill your box tonight ;) ..... n8
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05:25 < n00kie_> morning
05:26 < mnemoc> good night n00kie_ ;)
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05:39 < n00kie_> Hehe mnemoc :)
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06:36 < blindcoder> moin
07:30 < netrunner> moin blindcoder
07:30 < blindcoder> moin netti.
07:30 * blindcoder off getting breakfast. brb
07:32 < netrunner> blindcoder: good idea, I'm getting myself some coffee :)
07:40 < blindcoder> hehe
08:01 < _NULL_> hi
08:03 < blindcoder> moin nully *waves*
08:04 < netrunner> hi _NULL_
08:04 < _NULL_> hi blindy O_o
08:04 < _NULL_> hi netrunner
08:05 < _NULL_> netrunner: do you know maybe a place in munich or near munich, where somone can stay. maybe a cheap appartment or so?
08:09 < netrunner> _NULL_: short time ... my sofa, long time ... maybe ... depends.
08:09 < blindcoder> *lol*
08:10 < _NULL_> netrunner: shot time: no thx. ;p long time: hmm... bad ;-/
08:11 < netrunner> _NULL_: it really depends on the time. you could maybe use my gf's room for a short while, since she stays at my house all the time anyway.
08:12 < _NULL_> netrunner: nope. thx. i don't want to be depend/schuldig someone for something
08:13 < netrunner> _NULL_: np, you could pay the rent for that room :)
08:14 < _NULL_> netrunner: oki. sounds better ;) but a) - ii need to maybe fight against my parants because of making themm willed to pay and so. b) will give them a 2nd chance first (again) c) will have vacation ;)
08:15 < netrunner> _NULL_: you still didn't mention the amount of time you ar talking about.
08:15 < blindcoder> _NULL_: If I were you, I'd cancel b)
08:15 * netrunner breakfast
08:16 < blindcoder> netrunner: an guadn :)
08:16 < _NULL_> netrunner: guten hunger
08:16 < _NULL_> blindcoder: yes... because i did it since over an year... but now outstanding people are "eingeweiht" in all that crap
08:17 < blindcoder> _NULL_: hmm... You think that'll change anything?
08:17 < _NULL_> blindcoder: i dunno. at least i have a place where i can stay if my parents are hitting and so on me again
08:17 < blindcoder> hmhm
08:18 < _NULL_> blindcoder: this is my sentence ;p
08:18 * blindcoder grabs _NULL_'s sentence and runs away
08:18 < _NULL_> blindcoder: pah, pah, pah ;p
08:18 * _NULL_ grabs something eatable. *crunch*
08:19 < blindcoder> _NULL_: you shall not eat hte table :P
08:20 < _NULL_> nah. was the teller
08:21 < blindcoder> well, htat one isn't quite edible, too
08:21 < _NULL_> .oO(eating christmas stollen in summer... strange)
08:21 < _NULL_> blindcoder: might you should give it a try
08:21 < blindcoder> hrm... how old is that thing?
08:22 < _NULL_> taests quite new
08:22 < blindcoder> hrm
08:23 < _NULL_> yes`
08:23 < _NULL_> ?
08:23 < blindcoder> nothing
08:23 < _NULL_> hmhm
08:23 < blindcoder> I'm just cleaning up my ${HOME}@work
08:23 < _NULL_> tssssss
08:24 < blindcoder> well, it's just filled with too much things
08:24 * _NULL_ doesn't really want to know with which things *vbeg*
08:28 < blindcoder> fresh
08:28 < blindcoder> naked
08:28 < blindcoder> sourcecode
08:28 < _NULL_> *rotflmao*
08:29 < _NULL_> .oO(men...)
08:30 < blindcoder> what? YOU understood the joke :D
08:31 < _NULL_> blindcoder: sure ;p
08:32 < _NULL_> .oO(now his weltbild is broken)
08:32 < blindcoder> not really :)
08:33 < _NULL_> :p
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10:10 < netrunner> so, car sold :)
10:13 < esden> good morining
10:13 * -> esden waving over to netrunner ;-)
10:13 < rxr> re
10:13 * netrunner waving back
10:14 < esden> re rxr 
10:14 < blindcoder> moin rxr, moin esden
10:14 < netrunner> hi rxr
10:14 < blindcoder> hmm... there are still a good number of packages failing in rev 388 >_<
10:15 < blindcoder> 821 builds total, 715 completed fine, 16 with errors.
10:15 < blindcoder> so far
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10:17 < jsaw> re
10:19 * netrunner had problems with svn-up through proxy yesterday, but that has worked before :(
10:21 < esden> hmm ... I have never got to run svn through proxy
10:21 < blindcoder> I used transconnect :D
10:21 < esden> or so ... I hope you understand what I mean ...
10:21 < esden> blindcoder: cheeter
10:21 < esden> ;-)
10:21 < blindcoder> esden: heh. so what?
10:22 < netrunner> esden: you only need to activate some special commands. then it woked ... but stopped yesterday.
10:29 < esden> netrunner: I activated all the options that are described to be needed to get svn running through a proxy ... but it did not help
10:42 < esden> hmm ... /me can imagine kasc running around the world dancing and singing ... ;-)
10:43 * -> esden still missing an image of kai for the gallery >_<
10:57 < esden> ok ... brb
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11:09 < n00kie> Hola :)
11:09 < F-117> hola
11:09 < F-117> n00kie where r u from
11:10 < n00kie> Austria.
11:10 < F-117> hum ich sprenchen deustch +-
11:10 < F-117> sag mir
11:10 < F-117> do u know how to create a lnx distro?
11:11 < F-117> i was looking at LFS ( lnx from scratch.com )
11:11 < n00kie> Well, why don't try LFS then? :)
11:11 < F-117> do u have documentation?
11:12 < F-117> i wanna get more to have a good idea
11:12 < n00kie> Moment.
11:12 < F-117> ok
11:13 < n00kie> www.linuxfromscratch.org/view/4.1
11:13 < F-117> i get it
11:13 < F-117> all htmls files
11:13 < F-117> but do u know if rocklnx has docs to download?
11:13 < n00kie> Yes, Rock Linux has a new good documentation
11:14 < F-117> http://www.rocklinux.org/sources/Documentation/
11:14 < n00kie> Use
11:14 < F-117> but they have a howto about how to make a distro?
11:15 < n00kie> http://www.rocklinux.org/people/pjotre/guide.download/html
11:15 < fronti> F-117: what is a distro in your eyes?
11:15 < fronti> F-117: rocklinux is a kind of distro
11:15 < F-117> ya
11:15 < n00kie> http://www.rocklinux.org/people/pjotr/guide.download/html
11:15 < F-117> but its based on another?
11:15 < fronti> no
11:15 < n00kie> Well, Rock Linux is a Distribution Build Kit
11:15 < rxr> n00kie: do not proposes the guide - it is quite outdate and does not contain that much info anyway
11:15 < netrunner> fronti: rocklinux is a distro build kit
11:15 < fronti> rocklinux is based on its own
11:15 < F-117> hum
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11:16 < fronti> netrunner: ok..
11:16 < n00kie> Sorry rxr :)
11:17 < rxr> fronti: read the online source proposed above, maybe also the rolling rock articles on the ROCK Linux site
11:17 < F-117> i dont wanna, i was looking for documents to how can i say... modify a distro to provide me more confiability and other things
11:17 < F-117> i ll read n00kie
11:17 < n00kie> brb
11:17 < fronti> rxr netrunner i know this.. but for me, its all one distro with more or less packeges
11:17 < rxr> n00kie: we really need to rewrite that guide ...
11:20 < n00kie> rxr: We should take us some time, and rewrite it. :)
11:28 < esden> nice ... the acpi patch makes the kernel really more usable for my laptop
11:35 < n00kie> Bye.
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11:40 < rxr> esden: yes it is on my todo to be added to ROCK in the next days
11:40 < rxr> esden: do you have an older or new laptop?
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11:51 < esden> rxr: I would say that it is an older one ... it is an acer travelmate 201T
11:51 < esden> rxr: but make the patch an option ... but I think I do not have to say that explicitly
11:53 < blindcoder> back
11:56 < rxr> esden: yep - it will be possible to disable it - but since most recent laptops need the patch to even boot correctly, it will be enabled by default ...
11:57 < netrunner> esden: that patch does stuff different from the acpi in the kernel?
11:59 < rxr> netrunner:  the acpi tree got never fully merged - the vanilla kernel only has a small subset of ACPI
11:59 < esden> netrunner: not that I know of
11:59 < esden> rxr: full ack
11:59 < esden> rxr: do you know why?
11:59 < rxr> the patch add the full support
11:59 < rxr> esden: nope - only the usual too much change for the stable tree stuff ...
11:59 < rxr> (I think)
12:00 < esden> rxr: *sigh* standard linus blah blah
12:00 < esden> "that is a too big change I will not merge it" *grml*
12:02 < netrunner> rxr: ah, then I consider this a wanted patch :)
12:04 < blindcoder> ah, I love regular expressions :D
12:05 < blindcoder> would anyone consider a regex consisting of over 150 characters too difficult to pass it by undocumented?
12:07 < netrunner> blindcoder: maybe you should add a comment like "# don't ask"
12:08 < blindcoder> hrm
12:08 < blindcoder> # parsing input now
12:08 < blindcoder> should be enough
12:09 < esden> netrunner: yes it is wanted ;-)
12:10 < esden> blindcoder: # parsing input ... do not ask how you will not understand that
12:10 < blindcoder> esden: hehe :-)
12:10 < esden> *g*
12:11 < esden> someone who wants to understand that regex should get O'reilly regular expression book
12:11 < blindcoder> maybe I should put the ISBN there :-)
12:12 < esden> yes you should ...
12:13 < esden> blindcoder: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/regex2/
12:14 < blindcoder> okay, put ISBN and link as a comment :-)
12:15 < blindcoder> hrm
12:16 < blindcoder> I really should search for a perl-module for HTTP Requests
12:16 < blindcoder> I'm tired of typing them by hand
12:18 < esden> hehe
12:18 < blindcoder> my $sock = new IO::Socket::INET("intranet.icn.siemens.de:80");
12:19 < esden> blindcoder: you old hacker *head_shake*
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12:20 < esden> most security attacks in firms are coming from it's workers
12:20 < blindcoder> esden: no, I'm a lazy bum. I'm too lazy to search or write a module for that :D
12:20 < esden> blindcoder: ok
12:21 < blindcoder> if this continues I'll soon start writing a small tcp/ip stack for each of my perl-scripts cause I'm too lazy to use IO::Socket::INET and others >_<
12:22 < blindcoder> hrm
12:22 < blindcoder> maybe I should read up on the mysqlprotocol...
12:23 < esden> blindcoder: shame on you
12:23 < blindcoder> ?_?
12:24 < esden> blindcoder: because of your lazyness ;-)
12:24 < blindcoder> bah. You're ust envious
12:28 < blindcoder> hrm
12:28 < blindcoder> After this script is in wide-spread use in Siemens and I'm no longer here I shoul open a consulting company *MUAHAHA*
12:29 < esden> lol
12:29 < esden> you are fixing your workplace ;-)
12:30 < blindcoder> or do you know by heart what the difference between $/ = ""; and $/ = undef; is :D
12:30 < esden> they can not replace you now ... 
12:30 < rxr> the schillernet server will be offlne again for some minutes - cu later ...
12:30 < esden> ehhm ... the one is a link on a variable containing empty string ... and the other is a link on an empty thing
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12:31 < esden> like NULL
12:31 < esden> am I right?
12:31 < blindcoder> yes, but what does it DO?
12:32 < blindcoder> $/ is a special variable that changes the behaviour of certain Perl-functions. So?
12:33 < netrunner> blindcoder: why don't you use HTTP::Request?
12:33 * netrunner uses that to steal messages from an evil ubb forum :)
12:33 < blindcoder> netrunner: hrm.... because I do not know it ^^;
12:34 < netrunner> blindcoder: may I tell you about it? :)
12:35 < blindcoder> netrunner: I'll have a look at it when I'm less lazy :)
12:35 < esden> argl ... rxr I need the svn!!!
12:36 < esden> blindcoder: nope sorry
12:36 * -> esden too stupid ... and does not know that by hard ... and I really can live with it ;-)
12:36 < blindcoder> esden: it controls how a stream is read
12:37 < blindcoder> and if it is $/ = ""; it removes any newlines on Eond-of-Line
12:37 < esden> and the other way it does not...
12:37 < blindcoder> if it is $/ = undef; it doesn't. And if it is an integer it controls how many characters chomp cuts away :-)
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12:38 < esden> blindcoder: perl is evil
12:41 < blindcoder> jepp :)
12:50 * -> esden once more off ... brb
13:08 < esden> roe
13:10 < blindcoder> wb
13:11 < blindcoder> hrm.... bad
13:11 < blindcoder> 6 levels of indention
13:11 < esden> ahh svn is back online
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13:12 < rxr> so online again ...
13:12 < rxr> puh
13:13 < rxr> [===>.................]  resync = 17.3% (6991504/40202560) finish=38.1min speed=14519K/sec
13:13 < rxr> final configuration - the Athlon reconstructs fster :-)
13:13 < blindcoder> hehe
13:14 < blindcoder> wb rxr
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13:15 < esden> rxr: thank you very much ... I can finally update the rock-trunk -;)
13:15 < esden> argl ... /me can not type ... /me needs beer
13:16 < esden> ph34r my l4(k 0f b33r
13:16 < _NULL_> re
13:16 < rxr> so and hopefull this is enough mem ]
13:16 < rxr> + virtual mem:
13:16 < rxr> root:/# free
13:16 < rxr>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
13:16 < rxr> Mem:        514668     510204       4464          0       7836     464776
13:16 < rxr> -/+ buffers/cache:      37592     477076
13:16 < rxr> Swap:      1289024          0    1289024
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13:17 < rxr> hi Ge0rG
13:19 < rxr> cu later
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13:40 < _NULL_> hi netrunner
13:40 < netrunner> hi _NULL_
13:41 < esden> hi netrunner 
13:41 < esden> netrunner: where are you?
13:43 < netrunner> esden: you didn't ask yourself where the paperballs come from? ;)
13:43 * netrunner waves at esden
13:43 < _NULL_> O_o
13:43 < blindcoder> *LOL*
13:43 * -> esden waves at netrunner 
13:44 < esden> netrunner: do not throw the balls at me ... I will pay it back !!! ;-)
13:44 < blindcoder> and that's called "learning" or "studying"... i c
13:44 < _NULL_> yes... poor germany ;p
13:44 < blindcoder> "Mein Gott, was soll aus Deutschland werden?"
13:44 < _NULL_> <gott> nichts gutes, nichts gutes *verzweifel und wein*
13:45 < esden> blindcoder, _NULL_: :P
13:45 < blindcoder> _NULL_: that was a line from a former german Bundespraesident
13:45 < blindcoder> IIRC
13:50 < esden> *sigh* once more updating the source tarballs
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13:50 < rxr> re
13:51 < rxr> esden: is running up or co from svn now faster for you ?
13:51 < esden> up
13:52 < rxr> up  is faster now ?
13:52 < esden> ack
13:52 < rxr> nice
13:53 < rxr> one co takes 20% cpu useage on the atlhon-xp 1700+ and a load of 0.4 ...
13:54 < esden> that is pretty much
13:56 < rxr> yes and updating take ridiculous amounts of memory - this is why we had problem in the last days, and why I upgraded the server to the athlon box with 512MB RAM ...
13:56 < rxr> mnemoc: are you awake?
13:56 * netrunner feels the power of writing kernel modules
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13:56 < esden> netrunner: my fingers are itching now
13:56 < rxr> hi daja77_
13:57 < esden> my heartbeat is rising
13:58 < netrunner> esden: and you're trying to show off by asking weird questions.
13:58 < esden> :P
13:59 < esden> I do not know what the klibc stuff wants to do ... so I asked 
13:59 * netrunner is on a higher level than esden
13:59 < esden> hahaha you die
13:59 * netrunner floats away - bye
13:59 < esden> :P
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14:24 < rolla> re
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14:52 < mnemoc> hi rolla
14:53 < rxr> hi mnemoc
14:53 < rxr> could you test an update
14:53 < mnemoc> ok
14:53 < mnemoc> prepare to crash *g*
14:53 < rxr> the server got replaced ant is now an 1700+ XP Athlon with 512MB of real (DDR) memory ...
14:54 < mnemoc> a little hardware upgrade :)
14:54 < rxr> could you mention here when you start the svn up ?
14:54 < rxr> the box is still 100% idle ...
14:55 < mnemoc> i already started it
14:55 < mnemoc> two seconds after  i said 'ok'
14:56 < rxr> still nothing here ...
14:56 < rxr> maybe your box is still doing some diffing / checking ...
14:56 < mnemoc> nothing here too :-\
14:56 < mnemoc> there is a verbose mode?
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14:56 < rxr> ah now
14:57 < rxr> http is eating memory ...
14:57 < rxr> 200MB
14:57 < mnemoc> wow
14:57 < rxr> 300MB
14:57 < rxr> 350MB
14:57 < mnemoc> 5 x U
14:57 < mnemoc> idling.....
14:58 < mnemoc> that shall be bug
14:58 < mnemoc> a bug ;-)
14:58 < rxr> did it finish on your site?
14:59 < mnemoc> not yet
14:59 < mnemoc> new updates
14:59 < mnemoc> done
14:59 < rxr> so worked ok this time?
14:59 < mnemoc> there was a big 'pause' before package/
14:59 < mnemoc> worked
14:59 < rxr> I now have this monster on the server:
14:59 < rxr>   247 http      10   0  346m 346m 3220 S  0.0 68.9   0:35.73 httpd
15:00 < rxr> how many files are modified in your tree?
15:01 < mnemoc> modified by me? around 10
15:01 < mnemoc> please my mnemoc-devel repo. and a target...
15:02 < mnemoc> but they are not svned
15:02 < mnemoc> i updated 11 files and stoped because openldap's config.in 'obstructing'
15:02 < rxr> mnemoc: your update included the .cache file updates?
15:03 < mnemoc> i was 389
15:03 < mnemoc> no .cache files there
15:03 < mnemoc> can i run it again to finish it?
15:04 < rxr> mnemoc: didn't it finish? Or what do you mean with "to finish it"?
15:04 < mnemoc> when it found an 'A' file which i already have, aborts.
15:05 < mnemoc> in this case, config.in of openldap
15:05 < rxr> yes run again / and/or rm the existing file ..
15:06 < mnemoc> svn up
15:06 < mnemoc> (do you know why gcc_build_wrapper CC  cc gcc{-2,-3,} is only done for stage>1?)
15:08 < rxr> because otherwise we use the cross compiler which is name:
15:08 < rxr> gcc_build_wrapper CC ${arch_target}-cc ${arch_target}-gcc{-2,-3,}
15:09 < mnemoc> but what if i DONT have ${arch-target}-gcc? (my case)
15:09 < mnemoc> long life to redhat :|
15:10 < rxr> do you use the pseudo cross compiler ???
15:11 < mnemoc> sure
15:11 < mnemoc> but [ $stagelevel -gt 1 -o "$ROCKCFG_USE_CROSSCC" = 0 ]
15:12 < mnemoc> psedo cross should ensure i have ${arch-target}?
15:12 < mnemoc> env size may be bugging?
15:13 < esden> re hi all
15:13 < _NULL_> wb esden
15:13 < mnemoc> sencond svn up aborts because another obstruction
15:13 < mnemoc> rm; svn up
15:14 < mnemoc> wb esden
15:24 < rxr> oO
15:25 < rxr> root:~# free
15:25 < rxr>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
15:25 < rxr> Mem:        514668     512452       2216          0      11112       7892
15:25 < rxr> -/+ buffers/cache:     493448      21220
15:25 < rxr> Swap:      1289024    1029852     259172
15:25 < rxr> mnemoc: has the update finished?
15:25 < mnemoc> i started a third svn up 2 minutes ago
15:26 < mnemoc> svn is hungry ;-)
15:28 < rxr> I wonder that is so special on your updated
15:28 < rxr> the ones from other people do not need that much memory ...
15:29 < rxr> I have 4 httpd's with 450 MB memory useage
15:30 < esden> rxr: I bet that it is shared 
15:30 < rxr> esden: nope
15:31 < rxr>   249 http       9   0  450m 294m 1352 S  0.0 58.7   0:27.02 httpd
15:33 < mnemoc> Updated to revision 396.
15:33 < mnemoc> :-)
15:34 < rxr> and the box is near some Out Of Memoy kills:
15:34 < rxr> oot:~# free
15:34 < rxr>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
15:34 < rxr> Mem:        514668     510308       4360          0       5524       3208
15:34 < rxr> -/+ buffers/cache:     501576      13092
15:34 < rxr> Swap:      1289024    1289008         16
15:37 * mnemoc the killer
15:37 < mnemoc> brb
15:40 < netrunner> re
15:47 < _NULL_> wb netrunner
15:49 < esden> re netrunner 
15:49 < esden> *mampf*
15:50 < _NULL_> esden: guten hunger. which pizza do you have?
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15:54 < _NULL_> hi capchaos :)
15:54 < capchaos> hi _NULL_, my dear :>
15:55 * netrunner just made 'gratin de pommes de terre' ... anyone wants some?
15:55 < _NULL_> :)
15:56 < _NULL_> nope. thx. "kaesespaetzle" will be ready in some minutes... (i hope so... )
15:56 < daja77_> moin
15:56 < _NULL_> hi daja77_
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15:58 < netrunner> w
15:59 < daja77> hi netrunner
15:59 < netrunner> hi daja77, want some food? come here :)
15:59 < daja77> sure
15:59 < _NULL_> .oO(he wants to "bestechen" everybody *vbeg*)
15:59 * netrunner throws the fresh cake into _NULL_'s face
16:00 < _NULL_> hihi.
16:00 * _NULL_ takes a bottle of fanta and "schuettet es ueber" netrunner's head ;p
16:01 < daja77> boah this is nasty
16:01 * netrunner tells the bees that are flying around them that _NULL_ is a much better target
16:01 < _NULL_> daja77: sure. "pappiges fanta-zeug" *hrhr*
16:02 < _NULL_> netrunner: eeeh! *kick*
16:03 < daja77> _NULL_: kick the bees *ggg*
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16:08 * admin kicks netrunner :P
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16:09 < daja77> *lol* coming only for kicking netrunner
16:10 < n00kie_> Hehe ;)
16:11 < daja77> must be fun...
16:11 < n00kie_> Real fun
16:12 * daja77 kicks n00kie_ 
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16:12 * admin kicks daja77 
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16:14 * daja77 doublekicks n00kie_ one kick fo each identity
16:16 < rxr> why are you all kicking ...
16:17 < daja77> to reduce agression level...
16:18 * mnemoc kicks daja77
16:18 * daja77 kicks rxr
16:18 * netrunner is proud being kicked by admin and offers him some gratin
16:19 * daja77 deflects mnemoc's kick...
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16:24 < _NULL_> omg...
16:24 < daja77> _NULL_: ?
16:24 < mnemoc> do you wanna kick he too?
16:24 < _NULL_> daja77: those [1] kicks [2]...
16:24 < mnemoc> her
16:24 < _NULL_> mnemoc: *kick*
16:26 < daja77> _NULL_ is the master kicker *ggg*
16:27 * daja77 hides
16:27 * netrunner off getting doublecard
16:27 * _NULL_ takes the "blechdose" and hits daja77 with it
16:27 < _NULL_> bye netrunner
16:28 < daja77> netrunner: bye
16:28 < daja77> _NULL_: ouch??
16:29 < _NULL_> pfff.
16:29 * daja77 pets _NULL_ 
16:30 < _NULL_> *shivers*
16:30 * _NULL_ runs away 
16:31 * daja77 watches _NULL_'s run
16:31 < rxr> strange folks here ...
16:31 < rxr> cu later
16:31 < daja77> cu
16:31 < _NULL_> bye rxr
16:31 < daja77> .oO we have scared rxr
16:31 < _NULL_> sure...
16:38 < Mike1> moin
16:38 < daja77> moin Mike1
16:41 < n00kie_> Hola Mike1 :)
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17:17 < kasc> moin
17:17 < daja77> moin kasc
17:17 < mnemoc> hi kasc
17:18 < mnemoc> i didn't understand the change of sf mirror... is belnet unstable?
17:18 < daja77> dunno
17:21 < kasc> no idea. IMHO it should be better to fetch from a mirror as it should have lower traffic
17:24 < mnemoc> full ack
17:24 < Mike1> Don Alejandro.
17:24 < mnemoc> Don Miguel
17:25 < daja77> Don Johnson O_o
17:25 < daja77> *ggg*
17:25 < mnemoc> :|
17:26 < daja77> mnemoc: sorry typing stupid stuff today...
17:27 < mnemoc> Don means something like 'sir' but less medieval
17:28 < daja77> I guessed that, anyway that doesn't prevent me from typing nonsense...
17:29 < mnemoc> sure... nosense typing is fundamental for sanity
17:31 < daja77> yes, so don't stop me *ggg*
17:33 * netrunner cannot sit front of the tv while eating ... all the baked cheese on top of the potatoes gets stolen silently :(
17:35 < mnemoc> a good knife is good for that
17:38 < netrunner> ah ... svn from internal net here works again :)
17:40 * daja77 goes home
17:40 < daja77> bye
17:40 < mnemoc> netrunner: have you tested arch?
17:40 < mnemoc> by daja
17:40 < mnemoc> bye
17:41 < mnemoc> my fingers are froken
17:42 < netrunner> mnemoc ?
17:43 < mnemoc> arch, the CMS
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17:51 < netrunner> mnemoc: not that I know of, should I?
17:52 < mnemoc> no... i just want to choose an CMS and svn doesn't convince me
17:57 < netrunner> mnemoc: I'd say svn is a CVS (-replacemenv), no? CMS is for content management system afaik
17:58 < mnemoc> sorry
17:58 < mnemoc> arch is a cvs-replacement too
17:59 < mnemoc> with my current frozen-ness i saw CMS as configuration managment system, versioning... /me is stupid today
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18:02 < mnemoc> reboot
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18:15 < rxr> hi mnemoc
18:15 < mnemoc> hi rxr
18:15 < rolla> re mnemoc
18:15 < mnemoc> hi
18:15 < rxr> you could use svnserv (an apacheless server) it does not have this memory consumption problems and is at least 2x faster ...
18:17 < mnemoc> svnserv is a http server just for svn?
18:18 < rxr> nope - it is a stand-alone subversion protocol server included in subversion.
18:18 < rxr> you then access the repository with svn:// ...
18:18 < mnemoc> nice
18:19 < rxr> you even can run apache and svnserve in parallel (at least they claim it works flawlessly ...)
18:20 < mnemoc> but... why the allocaion problem shouldn't exist on the standalone server?
18:22 < rxr> because in the way each request is initiated by the webdav protocol ... somehow some cache pool (whatever) grows each time ....
18:23 < mnemoc> ok... if the bug is in webdev-svn relation, it will not be in svn:// ;-) i'll try
18:24 < rxr> mnemoc: I have not a svnserve running yet ...
18:24 < mnemoc> i'll try it at office *g*
18:24 < mnemoc> will you move to svnserv?
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18:27 < mnemoc> (i can't figure out why cmd_wrapper is not finding tools.crooss' ${arch_target}-gcc on stage 1 :(
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18:28 < Caspar> hi ! does the thing with INSTALL_WRAPPER_FILTER already work ?
18:31 < rxr> Caspar: yes it should work ... - do you experience a problem?
18:32 < Caspar> yes - it does - nothing ;(
18:32 < mnemoc> do nothing is better than destroy everything :)
18:32 < Caspar> svn ver: 396 - problem pine/courier imap
18:33 < Caspar> in both packages are INSTALL_WRAPPER defined, but both install their normal files ...
18:33 < Caspar>  ... so there are shared files :(
18:34 < mnemoc> Caspar: did you remover old var/adm files for those packages before rebuilding it?
18:35 < Caspar> yes - it's a fresh build ...
18:35 < Caspar> started today ...
18:36 < rxr> Caspar: ok - I take a look when I see the error ...
18:36 < rxr> mnemoc: is svn now faster - or is each update as slow a the one that generated the 600MB httpd on my server?
18:37 < mnemoc> somehitng to update?
18:37 < mnemoc> my hd is really slow... i took 4 minutes of burocracy between to pacakges
18:37 < mnemoc> svn up
18:38 < Caspar> rxr: should i send you my logfiles (pine - courier-imap) ?
18:39 < rxr> Caspar: nop please not yet. I reorganiyed all my boxes here (to have a bleeding edge server ...) and so I have not checked mail since yesterday evening ...
18:39 < Caspar> ok
18:39 < rxr> * checkouts are now restartable (#730)
18:40 < rxr> * updates now receive checksums like checkouts (#1101)
18:41 < rxr> hm and some more - I'll update to .23 maybe this resolves seom svn problems here ...
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18:41 < george> hi
18:41 < rxr> svn offline - I rebuild to version .23 ...
18:41 < george> daja77: hi. sorry, your ISO is not usable...
18:42 < mnemoc> ouch!!
18:42 < mnemoc> rxr: svn success in a little more than a minute
18:43 < mnemoc> rxr: seems fine
18:43 < rxr> mnemoc: what did you meature ?
18:43 < rxr> measure even
18:43 < george> daja77: 1. cannot find init...kernel panic - I didn't try to pass init=sth. because: 2. my secondary IDE is not detected
18:44 < mnemoc> time form start to end of an svn up with no changes or modifications
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18:45 < rxr> mnemoc: could you build 0.23 ?
18:45 < mnemoc> sure... but not now... gotta go :-(
18:45 < rxr> svn online again
18:45 < mnemoc> i'll bother you in 9 hours
18:46 < rxr> mnemoc: ok cu
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18:54 < tcr> moin all
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18:58 < kasc> could someone pls send me the flist to openldap? i would have to build some bdb stuff to be able to build openldap on my host system
19:03 < george> rxr: concerning RMA, are you paying or the addressee
19:04 < rxr> I always paid for the packet I send to them - bviously they paid the transport back ...
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19:04 < george> *dung*, let's see how long my WD keeps spinning...
19:07 < rxr> but this damn IBM disks faild every few months ...
19:08 < george> have you heise lately?
19:08 < _NULL_> re
19:08 < george> insert: read
19:08 < george> hi _NULL_
19:08 < _NULL_> hi george
19:10 * george hoping that the 3year warranty of WD really speaks in favour of them
19:12 < tcr> (offtopic:) Does anyone happen to be listening to any internet radio stream? I've been trying several streams, but none seems to work for me... just want to find out if it's a local problem
19:13 < rxr> tcr: i did in the past and it worked ...
19:13 < tcr> rxr: Well, I'm just interested in a URL that works ;) that's it
19:14 -!- cOdEz [~codez@pD9E44F18.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("pampfen")
19:17 < tfing> tcr: a swedish radio : mms://sr-wm.qbrick.com/02038_p3-wm-High
19:18 < tcr> mms?
19:18 < tcr> I don't know that protocol -- is a special stream protocol?
19:19 < tfing> mplayer has no pb with it
19:20 < tfing> it's a microsoft protocol i believe
19:20 < tcr> MusicMicroSoft? ;)
19:21 < tcr> nevermind, I found a stream that works for me...
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19:32 < blindcoder> WEE! Sake is good stuff :D
19:33 < jsaw> ack
19:33 < tfing> blindcoder: i packaged canna and kinput2 if you are interested by inputting japanese ;)
19:34 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@p50817E28.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (":x")
19:34 < blindcoder> My parents bought me a caraffe and soe cups today for sake :)
19:34 < blindcoder> tfing: can you give me the URLs? then I'll have a look at it
19:35 < _NULL_> blindcoder: haeh???
19:35 < _NULL_> sake? caraffe? soe ???
19:35 < blindcoder> _NULL_: Sake. "Reiswein"
19:35 < tcr> thanks tfing for having bothered with me ;) Interested in a metal radio stream coincidentaly?
19:35 < _NULL_> ah...
19:35 < blindcoder> _NULL_: Karaffe. Kleine Kanne.
19:35 < tfing> tcr: eh ... no ;)
19:35 < blindcoder> s/soe/small/
19:36 < blindcoder> I might already have drunk too much of it :)
19:36 < _NULL_> .oO( tfing is more interested in pop-music? *vbeg* )
19:36 < tfing> blindcoder: http://canna.sourceforge.jp/ & ftp://ftp.sra.co.jp/pub/x11/kinput2/
19:37 < tfing> _NULL_: there are only 2 kind of music ? metal and pop ?
19:37 * Mike1 dreamed last n8 about pop starts, there was Britney Spears, and Christina Aguilera, and they were presenting a new one, named Sandra Dismar... quite a funny dream..
19:37 < _NULL_> tfing: sure.. ;p
19:38 < tfing> blindcoder: but i got packages for rock ...
19:38 < tcr> tfing: Certainly not.. For example if I want to read something, I often switch on classic music... but for doing homeworks, metal is just fine imho ;)
19:38 < blindcoder> tfing: hmm... what do both packages do? just taking romaji-input? or is there more to it? and maybe some doc in a language I can actually read? :D
19:39 < blindcoder> hi Mike1
19:39 < tcr> _NULL_: Btw. Do you happen to like Deine Lakaien?
19:39 < tfing> blindcoder: you can input hiragana/katakana/kanji in every X app
19:39 < _NULL_> tcr: dunno. didn't hear much of them. why?
19:40 < Mike1> hi blindy
19:40 < blindcoder> tfing: hmm... sounds nice. I'd like to give it a try. can you send me the packages?
19:40 < tcr> _NULL_: Well, just got a cd which is the newly record version of their first demo tape... Thought that kind of music might be of the kind you like
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19:41 < _NULL_> really dunno.
19:42 * blindcoder listening to some Anime OST
19:44 < blindcoder> OTOH
19:44 < blindcoder> I could also watch some anime...
19:44 < blindcoder> I think I'll do the latter
19:44 < blindcoder> bbl
19:44 < _NULL_> bye blindcoder
19:44 < tfing> blindcoder: sent
19:44 < tcr> Food, code, anime, sleep ...
19:45 < tcr> blindcoder's daily schedule ;)
19:46 < _NULL_> tcr: nah. drive to work, food, code, anime, sleep, wake up again
19:46 < _NULL_> aeh... and drive back of course
19:47 < tcr> so really just one time the day he eats?
19:48 < _NULL_> oh forgot... no :)
19:49 < _NULL_> but another food between code, anime and put another code after added eat ;p
19:49 < tcr> (food, code)^2 then?
19:50 < _NULL_> yeah... but this would not be the right order... you know...
19:55 < daja77> re
19:56 < _NULL_> wb
19:56 < daja77> jsaw: you here?
19:56 < daja77> thx _NULL_
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19:58 < jsaw> daja77: yep, BTW, your ISO do not work
19:59 < jsaw> daja77: problem:
19:59 < daja77> ja ja ja I knoew
19:59 < daja77> awaylog is great :))
19:59 < jsaw> ...
20:00 < daja77> jsaw: I had this problem with init too, it somehow vanished with the second build
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20:00 < daja77> jsaw: you need a new image?
20:03 < esden> daja77: you wanted to write me an email ;-)
20:04 < Mike1> hi esden
20:04 < _NULL_> .oO( esden is everwhere ... :p )
20:04 < jsaw> daja77: just started a fresh build (with my pseudo cross build mod), if it breaks again (due to my still not replaced suse...), I'll tell you
20:04 < daja77> esden: yeah sorry I couldn't ask him cos he is away, sorry asap
20:04 < daja77> jsaw: ok
20:04 < daja77> _NULL_: is he in  your dreams *ggg*
20:05 < _NULL_> daja77: nope.
20:05 < blindcoder> actually, wake up, drive to work, play, code, eat, play, code, drive home, (training,) anime, play, sleep
20:06 < Mike1> daja77: she is lieing
20:06 < esden> daja77: ok
20:06 < _NULL_> Mike1: psssst.!
20:06 * daja77 trying to appear in _NULL_'s dreams
20:07 < esden> poor _NULL_ 
20:07 < esden> _NULL_: my condolences
20:07 < daja77> haha
20:07 < blindcoder> weekends are different, of course
20:07 * blindcoder gone to anime again
20:07 < daja77> esden is jealous...
20:07 < esden> daja77: sure I am!
20:08 < daja77> :)
20:09 < Mike1> daja77: so you will have to appear on esden's dreams too
20:09 < Mike1> hrhrhr
20:09 < Mike1> :)
20:09 < daja77> Mike1: and in yours :p
20:09 < Mike1> daja77: hehe, if i ever sleep..
20:09 < daja77> hehe yeah while coding
20:10 < Mike1> while coding!?!?!
20:10 < daja77> you told me...
20:10 < Mike1> that would be unfair, i have been coding 90% of time during the last days..
20:10 < Mike1> no, you said in my dreams..
20:10 < daja77> *gg*
20:11 * daja77 shocked...
20:11 < Mike1> i have no problem with that, as i almost never sleep, and whn i sleep, i'm so damn tired, that i don't dream
20:12 < esden> Found download/mathieu/mldonkey/mldonkey-2.4-0.sources.tar.gz.cksum-err.
20:12 < esden> argl
20:12 < daja77> I mean I contributed more than 10000 lines to this nice chan, I should get a life...
20:13 < esden> *pililng* 1up for daja77 
20:13 < daja77> huh???
20:14 < esden> daja77: you got one life as requested
20:14 < Mike1> daja77: let me see where you are placed on the stats
20:14 < daja77> oh thank you esden
20:14 < Mike1> daja77: but belive stats will prove you that people like esden should really have a life... he is on top of the stats
20:15 < daja77> Mike1: yeah and you wanna be the first...
20:15 < Mike1> daja77: what are you talking about? i am so far away from been on top of the stats, this guys are serious chatters
20:15 * -> esden searching a life ....
20:16 * -> esden none found
20:16 < esden> argl
20:16 < tcr> esden is doomed
20:16 < Mike1> esden: mm.. :)
20:16 < tcr> he's the electee!
20:16 < daja77> life: command not found
20:16 < Mike1> daja77: mmm.. you are just _over_ owl...
20:16 < Mike1> 8th place isn't bad at all..
20:17 * daja77 frightened
20:17 < Mike1> esden: you are searching on the wrong place..
20:17 < Mike1> esden: life = coding.
20:17 < daja77> yeah let's code esden
20:17 -!- _NULL_ is now known as owl
20:18 < owl> :p
20:18 < Mike1> esden: you have 26504 lines!! you are a real freak!
20:18 < capchaos> owl!
20:18 < owl> capchaos!
20:18 < Mike1> owly you are finally back to us
20:18 < esden> hmm .. I greped all code I ever wrote ... and I have not found any life there at all ... so I will stay undead
20:18 < owl> nah. just the nick.
20:18 < esden> re owly!!!!
20:18 < esden> *jump_around*
20:18 < owl> O_o
20:18 * -> esden hugs owl 
20:19 < esden> I am so happy you are back with us
20:19 < owl> *even more surprised*
20:19 < Mike1> >>> Lets HUG owly <<<
20:19 * Mike1 hugs owlita
20:19 < owl> omg
20:19 * owl running awy
20:19 * netrunner hugs owl /heftigstly/
20:19 < owl> *g*
20:19 < Mike1> good netrunner :)
20:19 < esden> good netrunner 
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20:19 < Mike1> :))
20:19 < netrunner> ou we frightened caspar :)
20:19 < owl> capchaos: what do you say now... will you share me with all those crazy men? ;)
20:19 < esden> netrunner is a good boy he will go in the supe
20:19 < Mike1> owlita we all have missed you a lot during all this time
20:20 < rolla> Mike1:
20:20 < owl> esden: suppe?? gehaeckselt oder am stueck?
20:20 < Mike1> esden: maybe he could have a chance to enter in our clan..
20:20 < capchaos> owl, not at all. /me kicks back all the hugs with a matrix jump.
20:20 < Mike1> rolla:
20:20 * capchaos hugs owl, now.
20:20 < jsaw> Pro7: Do 11:27 Clifford - Das kleine Scheusal
20:20 < owl> capchaos: *rhug* thx
20:20 < jsaw> hehe
20:20 < Mike1> Mr. Franz, haven't you heard about backups?
20:21 < capchaos> Mike1, owl won't be backed up :)
20:21 < daja77> hehe it needs me to bring owl back, strange
20:21 < owl> Mike1: backups???
20:21 < esden> owl: gehaeckselt in pflanzerl form
20:21 < owl> daja77: *g*
20:21 < owl> esden: i c.
20:21 < esden> daja77: congrats 
20:21 < daja77> I guess I have no chance against her...
20:22 < owl> daja77: why?
20:22 < Mike1> ok i'm hungry to death, cu in 1/2 a bit.
20:22 < owl> Mike1: guten appettit
20:22 < esden> Mike1: have fun
20:22 < Mike1> thanks :)
20:22 < daja77> owl: I fear you talk more than me (if that's possible at all)
20:22 < owl> daja77: :ppp
20:22 * Mike1 shows a big steak to blindcoder
20:23 < owl> daja77: you know. i'm the channel the official channel bot...
20:23 < daja77> owl: yeah right, it will be an honour for me to give you back your position...
20:23 < owl> daja77: well then ;)
20:24 < daja77> no no no, I'll not shut up...
20:24 < owl> daja77: dammit!
20:24 * owl kicks daja77 until he is dead and shuts up
20:24 < daja77> yeah
20:25 -!- mode/#rocklinux [+v owl] by ChanServ
20:25 < esden> she is our bot now ;-)
20:25 < tcr> matriarchy now???
20:25 <+owl> esden: blllll ;p
20:25 < esden> owl: be happy you are allowed now to talk ;-)
20:26 <+owl> esden: thx. now i feel better as you allowed me to talk ;p
20:26 * -> esden hugging owl
20:26 <+owl> O_o
20:26 < esden> I am so happy that you appreciate that *cry*
20:27 <+owl> .oO(this guy needs help)
20:27 < daja77> who needs not
20:27 < daja77> what's the benefit from that +v stuff
20:28 < daja77> I can't even hear her louder now ...
20:28 * -> esden starts text to voice framework on daja77's machine
20:28 < tcr> daja77: if the channel was set to moderate, only those with voice may talk
20:28 < tcr> might
20:29 < daja77> ok but it has no effect here, right?
20:29 < tcr> Well, at most a psychiological one ;)
20:30 <+owl> <-- outsider :p
20:30 < blindcoder> good
20:30 -!- mode/#rocklinux [+m] by ChanServ
20:30 -!- mode/#rocklinux [+v esden] by ChanServ
20:30 <+esden> lalala
20:30 <+owl> welcome in the club, esden
20:30 <+esden> owl say something
20:30 <+esden> hehe ;-)
20:30 <+esden> ok ... I take the +m away ;-)
20:31 -!- mode/#rocklinux [-m] by ChanServ
20:31 * blindcoder kicks esden in his sack
20:31 < tcr> Please never do that again
20:31 <+esden> :P
20:31 <+owl> *g* guess the guys will kill ya now, esden :p
20:31 < tcr> IRC should be a medium for information interchange
20:31 < daja77> op me win a prize...
20:31 <+esden> yes hopefully
20:31 < tcr> and not for toying around
20:31 < netrunner> what's going on here?
20:31 <+owl> esden: *kick*
20:31 < netrunner> crazy guys!
20:31 < blindcoder> daja77: I'll do something better... I'll tell his dance-partner to kick him during the next tango
20:31 <+owl> netrunner: nack.
20:32 < daja77> blindcoder: ack
20:32 -!- mode/#rocklinux [+o esden] by ChanServ
20:32 < tcr> netrunner: I agree with you
20:32 -!- mode/#rocklinux [-v owl] by esden
20:32 -!- mode/#rocklinux [-v esden] by esden
20:32 -!- mode/#rocklinux [-o esden] by esden
20:32 < esden> ok ... 
20:32 < esden> I am quiet now
20:32 < tcr> Thanks, that's enough for the whole year now ;)
20:32 < esden> tcr: :P
20:32 < owl> an quiet esden is like a dead corpse
20:33 < owl> -n
20:33 < tcr> A demonstrandum of thisp ower
20:33 < blindcoder> okay, I'll watch anime again... need some more depression
20:33 < esden> mumble mumble
20:33 < tcr> of his power
20:33 < daja77> esden: play more populus to play your feelings out
20:33 < owl> tcr: are you maybe using isdn?
20:34 -!- daja77 is now known as ringo_cat
20:34 < tcr> That's of any particular interest?
20:35 < owl> oh goth... the guys are getting more and more crazy *note to self*
20:35 -!- ringo_cat is now known as daja77
20:35 < capchaos> hm, cats, i'm hungry
20:36 < owl> capchaos: "fresssack" ;)
20:36 < daja77> owl: getting, we are crazy....
20:37 < capchaos> :p
20:38 * netrunner getting undressed *hotherepfff*
20:39 * daja77 looks in different direction
20:39 * netrunner dances around daja77
20:39 * daja77 chokes
20:40 * netrunner hides behind a small stone
20:40 * daja77 throws a stone at netrunner 
20:40 * netrunner catches the stone and throws it precisely between daja77's eyes
20:41 < daja77> great now I don't have to see you anymore...
20:41 * netrunner hands a businesscard of his favourite eye-doc ork to daja77
20:41 < netrunner> (the one with the rusty knifes)
20:41 * daja77 kicks netrunner 
20:43 < esden> daja77: you brutala
20:43 < daja77> esden: haha no it is kicking day today :p
20:44 < esden> daja77: be carefull before I start kicking MUAHAHAHA
20:44 * netrunner fears esdens gigantic feet 
20:45 < esden> agl ugl ... I do not have giantic feet ... but I have op in this channel ;-)
20:45 < daja77> esden: we all know...
20:46 < esden> *sigh* ... 
20:46 * -> esden eats white chocolat
20:46 < esden> e
20:47 < daja77> hmm chocolate nice
20:49 < daja77> kasc: you here?
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20:50 * daja77 steals some of esden's chocolate
20:50 < esden> you pole!!!
20:50 < daja77> hehe
20:50 < owl> "der richtige sagt's" :)
20:51 < esden> owl: :P
20:51 < daja77> I like to play this game vice versa...
20:51 < owl> esden: ;)
20:52 * daja77 steals some of owl's bacardi
20:52 < esden> daja77: alki
20:52 < owl> esden: *no comment* ;ppp
20:52 < daja77> that is polish too iirc
20:53 < esden> daja77: nope
20:53 < esden> or what do you mean?
20:53 < esden> o_O
20:53 * -> esden confused
20:54 < daja77> esden: hehe I watched a polish beating a russian "im kampftrinken"
20:54 < Mike1> re
20:55 < daja77> and I've seen esden bein drunk very often here
20:55 * daja77 getting a beer for esden 
20:56 < owl> O_o
20:57 * netrunner goes walking the dog, to hot inside.
21:07 < Mike1> hi daja77
21:07 < owl> Mike1: i guess you're puzzlign me, but not daja77
21:07 < Mike1> owl: well he has 5 screens with me..
21:08 < owl> 5? /me just has 4 ;p
21:10 * capchaos has 11. but not in screen.
21:10 < capchaos> :p
21:12 < owl> capchaos: 11 channels/queries, with Mike1 in it? O_o
21:12 < Mike1> 11?
21:12 < Mike1> owl: ?
21:12 < owl> Mike1: ?
21:13 < Mike1> hehehe
21:13 < capchaos> $ ps ax|grep xterm|wc -l  ... 11 ... but i consider them screens :)
21:13 < Mike1> what are you doing owl?
21:14 < owl> Mike1: trying to manage
21:14 < Mike1> manage what?
21:15 < owl> Mike1: haha. now you have to search for the messages and puzzle it together ;p
21:15 < Mike1> owl: its not difficult for em
21:15 < owl> Mike1: why?
21:15 < Mike1> owl: i am everywhere
21:15 < owl> Mike1: i c.
21:16 < Mike1> lol
21:16 < Mike1> daja77: wanna join the game?
21:25 < daja77> Mike1: where are you?
21:26 < Mike1> heir
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21:42 < daja77> gn8 n00kie
21:42 < n00kie> sleep well daja77 :)
21:58 < netrunner> wonderful. There was no doubt that it would start raining while I am away and my windows are open.
21:59 < daja77> hehe
22:03 < netrunner> hm ... that cluster build mixes stage 5 and 3 ...now that 5-linux24, dirtree and parted are built, he continues with 3-stuff
22:09 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD958D6E6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Mess with the best, die like the rest!")
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22:22 < daja77> hi jose_
22:23 -!- Robin_Root [Robin_Root@ip163-2-23.dialup.edisontel.com] has joined #rocklinux
22:24 < daja77> welcome Robin_Root
22:24 < daja77> haha Mike1 isn't always faster...
22:25 < jose_> daja77: hi!
22:26 < Robin_Root> hi
22:29 < Mike1> daja77: actually i am the one who asked him to join :)
22:29 < daja77> hmmm...
22:29 < Mike1> so yes i kicked ur ass .. again...
22:29 < Mike1> :P
22:29 < daja77> pah your mortal joy :))
22:30 < Mike1> who are you calling mortal?!?!
22:30 < daja77> yeah
22:30 < daja77> only mortals marry :ppp
22:31 < daja77> immortals take the chicks they like ;)
22:31 < Mike1> hey!! you can't use that against me you little...
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22:31 < daja77> I am evil I know...
22:32 < Mike1> yes :(
22:32 < daja77> oh c'mon this is life
22:33 * daja77 marry Mike1 
22:33 < Mike1> 0_o
22:36 < daja77> Mike1: not?
22:36 < daja77> *ggg*
22:37 < Mike1> because you belong to tcr
22:37 < daja77> hehe :p
22:51 < daja77> gn8 everybody
22:56 < Robin_Root> Bye!
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22:57 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dialin-145-254-161-156.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("What magical force is pulling me to the strange box with the strange pillow? Can't resist, damnit...")
22:58 < jose_> daja77: why, what time is it there ?
22:59 < daja77> 22:58
23:00 < jose_> in that case...gn8!
23:04 < daja77> :)
23:09 * kasc is confused...
23:27 -!- cOdEz [~codez@pD952B415.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("pimpern")
23:28 < esden> weee ... I use for the first time the usb bus in my laptop! and it works!! 
23:29 < esden> now switching from ps2 to usb on my main machine
23:37 < snyke> moo
23:38 < esden> o_O
23:38 < esden> ok .. /me brb restarting X
23:39 < jose_> esden: use screen!
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