--- Log opened Mon Jun 02 00:00:07 2003
--- Day changed Mon Jun 02 2003
00:00 < rxr> hi holyolli
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00:00 < holyolli> *g* i hope that's only some alcohol and tiredness...nothing with flames and burnings...? ;)
00:00 < holyolli> hi rxr
00:00 < holyolli> rxr: good to see you...where can i find some actual packages of the current beta of drock?
00:01 < ringo78> no burnings only  afew from the past when I was 4 years old .
00:03 < rxr> holyolli:  you mean some single binary packages ?
00:03 < holyolli> rxr: jepp
00:03 < rxr> hm I could copy my last build to some location ...
00:04 < holyolli> rxr: because there are many packages in the last release, which weren't complete...even so inclomplete that i can't compile anything
00:05 < rxr> http://schillernet.dyndns.org/rock-linux/x86/
00:05 < holyolli> rxr: isn't it possible to mount the cd images on the webserver loopback?
00:05 < holyolli> thx
00:05 < rxr> still copying ...
00:05 < holyolli> i c
00:05 < holyolli> ;)
00:10 < rxr> holyolli: copy finished
00:12 < holyolli> rxr: thx
00:12 < holyolli> rxr: what about the loopback idea?
00:12 < daja77> hmm it seems that initrd is too big, well we'll see
00:13 < rxr> I have not current ISO on a server due to too many broken IBM disk
00:13 < rxr> and additionally I do not trust loopback enought to use it on server systems ...
00:14 < daja77> rxr: what you havent still got your hds back
00:15 < mnemoc> how many month waiting?
00:15 < rxr> I have one back - for the other I got a notice that it is shipped ...
00:15 < rxr> mnemoc: nope - I'll plug one of the two into the gsmp.tfh-berlin.de server
00:16 < rxr> but I would like the 40GB one in it, not the 30 GB (although I do not yet have found out whether I sent two 40 GB discs and HGST send a smaller one back - or if I really sent a 30GB driver ... ?!?!)
00:20 < holyolli> rxr: ok - finished the download...
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00:28 < daja77> *argl* I hate old hardware
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00:54 < daja77> hmm this doesn't look very nice http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~jahre/rock_hp_problem_galeon.jpg
00:54 < daja77> anyone noticed this with a more recent browser
00:56 < Freak> yup.
00:56 < Freak> thats when you assume ppl got 1024px
00:57 < daja77> *gna* resolution optimized?
00:58 < Freak> not necessarily
01:04 < daja77> everybody sleeping?
01:04 < rxr> daja77: nope
01:04 < daja77> ok
01:04 < daja77> fine
01:05 < daja77> just getting nervous ...
01:05 * jsaw is also awake
01:05 < jsaw> look at the source of the page:
01:06 < jsaw> the div tags around table.
01:07 < jsaw> that's either a specification uncertanty, or browser error
01:08 < daja77> :(
01:18 < Freak> the thing is: the lines would have to break to fit a smaller width.
01:18 < Freak> and they dont.
01:18 < Freak> so thats a layout problem.
01:20 < jsaw> no. the frame behind the table shouldn't get smaller than the table.
01:22 < jsaw> (try to make a html table auto-break from 4 into 3 columns if the width doesn't fit)
01:25 < Freak> ack
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02:21 < holyolli> z.qcy
02:21 < mnemoc> a password holyolli?
02:21 < mnemoc> :)
02:21 < mnemoc> /clear
02:22 < holyolli> nope...i was on my dvorak keyboard with qwerty layout =)
02:22 < holyolli> ;)
02:23 < mnemoc> :(
02:23 < Freak> :)
02:24 < mnemoc> never seen a dvorak... what z.qcy means in qwerty?
02:24 < holyolli> "/exit"
02:24 < holyolli> ;-)
02:24 < holyolli> <-- wanted to go to the pool ;)
02:24 < mnemoc> good luck
02:25 < holyolli> it's now a little bit later and the temperature is getting down...
02:25 < Freak> what timezone you in?
02:25 < Freak> (=where r u)
02:25 < holyolli> GMT-7
02:25 < holyolli> phoenix/arizona
02:25 < Freak> nice
02:25 < Freak> its 2am here =)
02:25 < holyolli> no. f***ing hot. he had today 47 degress
02:26 < Freak> wheee!
02:26 < holyolli> and it will get up to 50 this summer
02:26 < Freak> omigod
02:26 < holyolli> but it's dry - so it isn't that hot feeling like in .de
02:26 < Freak> heh
02:27 < holyolli> but in august i'm back in germany *froi*
02:27 < Freak> =)
02:29 < holyolli> o.k. cya
02:29 < Freak> cu
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02:30 < Freak> n8
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07:03 < n00kie> moin
07:13 < blindcoder> moin
07:20 < jsaw> moin moin.
07:22 < jsaw> what was that email today misusing cliffords name today?
07:31 < blindcoder> oh that
07:32 < blindcoder> happens sometimes
07:32 < blindcoder> isn't the first time and for sure not the last
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11:01 < netrunner> re
11:15 < rxr> hi netrunner
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11:40 < daja77> moin
11:49 < daja77> cu öater
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11:58 < daja77> later!
12:25 < netrunner> hi rxr. started a new build for k6-2 generic with rev 421 this morning (currently working on 5-coreutils.
12:41 * blindcoder building vim 6.2
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13:23 < rxr> hi daja77
13:24 < rxr> blindcoder: cool vim 6.2 ;-)
13:24 < blindcoder> rxr: and he syntax highlighting for our .desc files is in it :)
13:31 < rxr> ;-)
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14:00 < esden> weeeeeeeee my .desc syntax file is in the new vim version !!!!
14:00 < esden> cool
14:00 < esden> finally
14:01 < blindcoder> hi esden
14:01 < blindcoder> esden: hehe :-)
14:01 < esden> but I have to send in an updated version that is laying around on my harddisk
14:01 < blindcoder> esden: you're late to do that
14:02 < esden> I did not know where to send it in ... because the address of the guy that was maintaing vim was not reachable
14:03 < esden> blindcoder: but it is better then nothing 
14:03 < esden> and we can include a patch in the vim packet updating that file
14:04 < blindcoder> hmhm
14:07 < esden> grrrr: esdentem@athalle20:~/rene/rock-trunk $ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=../../build_root/lib/ ../../build_root/bin/svn up
14:07 < esden> svn: Network connection closed unexpectedly
14:07 < esden> svn: Connection closed unexpectedly
14:07 < esden> reneeeeeee!
14:07 < esden> ;-)
14:08 < blindcoder> *lol*
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14:09 < esden> huhu netcrow_, aszlig_ 
14:09 < esden> my day has been resurected, thanks to the vim guys ;-)
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14:22 < n00kie> hmmm
14:22 < n00kie> 94 new mails
14:26 < esden> hi n00kie 
14:26 < n00kie> hola esden :)
14:26 < n00kie> How are you?
14:30 < esden> fine thanks ... I am very happy that I see my .desc syntax file in the new vim ;-)
14:30 < n00kie> Congratulation :)
14:30 < esden> and how are you ?
14:30 < n00kie> Fine, but it's very hot
14:30 < n00kie> 32° :(
14:31 < esden> I really do not want to know how hot it is in here ... 
14:31 < esden> .oO(why is that cd not willing to boot)
14:32 < esden> .oO(building the kernel in the bootdisc target takes ages)
14:32 < n00kie> Yep
14:32 < n00kie> It took my 1hr to build it on a athlon xp 2300 :/
14:32 < esden> argl
14:33 < esden> I only have an athlon tb 1200
14:33 < n00kie> mm
14:33 < n00kie> maybe it'll took you 20-30minutes more
14:33 < esden> I need new hardware => need money
14:34 < esden> I hope that it will be ready soon cuz I want to test it ...
14:34 < n00kie> i can understand you
14:36 < n00kie> and it's so hot too
14:42 < n00kie> Well
14:42 < n00kie> I'm going to sleep a round :)
14:42 < n00kie> bbl
14:43 < esden> n8 n00kie 
14:43 < n00kie> thans
14:43 < n00kie> thanks*
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14:55 < esden> huhu netrunner 
14:56 < rolla> crap
14:58 * blindcoder going home
14:58 < blindcoder> bye
14:58 < esden> cu blindcoder 
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15:25 < owl> hi
15:25 < rolla> hallo
15:26 < owl> hi rolla
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15:37 < owl> hi tfing
15:38 < tfing> hi
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16:35 < daja77> re
16:39 < rolla> re
16:39 < daja77> hey rolla
16:40 < rolla> :)
16:40 < daja77> rolla: what's up?
16:42 < rolla> crap
16:42 < daja77> O_o ??
16:42 < rolla> my DNS servers are down :(
16:42 < daja77> oh
16:42 < rolla> so my mail and webserver are down
16:42 < rolla> damn damn
16:42 < daja77> ahem need some frog pills?
16:42 < rolla> ?
16:43 < daja77> to calm down *ggg*
16:43 < rolla> ha ha
16:43 < rolla> no I am going home here soon to fix it
16:43 < daja77> ok :)
16:46 < rolla> yeah
16:46 < rolla> now I am running cheops on the company network :)
16:46 < daja77> cheops?
16:46 < rolla> http://www.marko.net/cheops/
16:49 < daja77> http://osg.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/forschung/cheops/ *ggg*
16:49 < rolla> ha ha
16:49 < daja77> .oO rolla in bad mood :))
16:50 < rolla> ?
16:50 < rolla> why?
16:50 < daja77> hmm seems so
16:50 < rolla> not really
16:50 < daja77> good
16:53 < blindcoder> frog pills? WHERE?
16:53 < blindcoder> hi all :)
16:54 * daja77 gives frog pills to blindcoder 
16:55 < daja77> hi blindcoder
17:00 < rolla> hallo blindcoder
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17:09 < daja77> blindcoder: no build running?
17:09 < blindcoder> nah, not right now
17:15 < rolla> even I do not have a build going
17:15 < daja77> rolla: haha you are wasting cpu cycles
17:16 * daja77 has no build running too :D
17:18 < rolla> daja77: yes I am but since none of the builds ever work
17:18 < rolla> I am wondering if I am wasting cpu cycles either way
17:19 < daja77> hmm dunno
17:19 < rxr> re
17:19 < daja77> hi rxr
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17:49 < netrunner> ts ... I just won 2 cards for the skyline tonight ... me and disco *g*
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18:21 < Pyro> Good day.
18:21 < Pyro> ping rxr
18:22 < Pyro> Does anyone have or know of someone who has an install cd of 1.7 / 2.0 with AcceleRAID support?
18:28 < rxr> pong Pyro
18:28 < Pyro> ha! finally, hi Ren
18:29 < rxr> yes - me busy and soon away ...
18:29 < Pyro> rxr: i need to install ROCK on box which as a raid, but this is really not working for me, do u have any isos which may work for it?
18:29 < rxr> I'm just taking a look which driver is needed - so we have more sofisiticated SCSI and RAID support in future ROCK releases ...
18:29 < Pyro> rxr i know u are always busy, sorry for bothering u my friend, i just really need ths
18:29 < Pyro> rxr: i need DAC960 ..
18:31 < rxr> hm how urgent is this?
18:31 < Pyro> i've got some debian cds laying around which do recognize my raid properly, but i wanto ROCK the box...
18:31 < Pyro> rxr: urgent, the highest priority as it is for a production box..
18:31 < rxr> Mike since when do you call you Pyro?
18:31 < tfing> since he started reading m3g4tokyo ?
18:32 < Pyro> i've been using it since a while but not quite often
18:32 < rxr> Pyro: I have pretty much todo at university and could look into more useful module support on the install CD the next days ...
18:32 < Pyro> tfing: nah :P
18:32 < tfing> could have been that :)
18:32 < rxr> maybe tonight - but not in the next minutes ...
18:32 < Pyro> rxr: i understand... would u have any ideas or suggestions for me so i can work around the stuff my self for now
18:32 < rxr> Pyro: I'm very sorry - I have to leave now ...
18:33 < Pyro> rxr: no worries my friend. have a good day and thanks for ur thime
18:33 < Pyro> tfing: yeah but no :)
18:33 < Pyro> maybe i should switch to my know nick :)
18:33 -!- Pyro is now known as Mike1
18:33 < rxr> Pyro: take a look if the module is present on the CD somewhere - or extract the linux24.gem and load the module
18:33 < rxr> or if it is really not possible to get to the module "quickly" build a custom boot-cd with it ...
18:34 < Mike1> rxr: good idea thanks
18:34 < rxr> cu later
18:34 < Mike1> cu rxr
18:34 < rxr> but if you have a desktop build the linux24.gem may not match the install-cd kernel conf - so the module might not be loadable ...
18:34 < rxr> anyway much progres ;-)
18:34 < Mike1> arrgg
18:34 < Mike1> thanks
18:35 * Mike1 hitting himself against the wall
18:35 < Mike1> cu later guys.
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19:03 * jhidalgo happy.... waiting for his burrito
19:08 < rolla> re
19:14 < netrunner> hi rolla
19:20 < netrunner> hm animatrix tonight on pro7
19:21 * netrunner -> Bladenight
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20:05 < Mike1> re.
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20:09 < Mike1> capy.
20:11 < capchaos> Mikey.
20:11 < Mike1> ;-)
20:11 < capchaos> Can anyone tell me why ROCK using the binutils from kernel.org ?
20:11 < capchaos> especially why the "devel" ones.
20:12 < capchaos> Are they better than the gnu.org and redhat ones?
20:13 < tfing> are they different ?
20:14 < capchaos> At least different versioning ..
20:17 < rxr> capchaos: the gnu ones are only realeasd every few ice-ages ...
20:17 < capchaos> kernel.org has 2.14.90.0.4 (same as in ROCK) - and redhat provides snapshots and 2.13.91.
20:17 < rxr> capchaos: I do not know about some red-hat ones - we just ever used these "official" intermediate releases for linux ...
20:18 < capchaos> Ok, that is plausible, rxr.
20:18 < capchaos> ftp://sources.redhat.com/pub/binutils/snapshots
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20:28 < daja77> hey Mike1
20:32 < daja77> are you here Don Miguel?
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20:41 < daja77> hi [anders]
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20:46 < [anders]> lo daja77
20:49 < uninvit3d> good ...
20:54 < rolla> now to setup DNS
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21:00 < esden> hi ho
21:01 < daja77> hi esden
21:01 < rolla> re esden
21:01 < Mike1> master [anders]
21:01 < Mike1> hi daja77 yes i am here for 1/2 a bit
21:02 < Mike1> == 06/02/03 06:19:44 =[1]=> Aborted building package glibc23.
21:02 < Mike1> wtf??
21:02 < rolla> Mike1:
21:03 < Mike1> hi joel
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21:09 < Mike1> re.
21:09 < capchaos> WB, Mikey.
21:09 < Mike1> danke capy
21:09 < capchaos> :)
21:10 < daja77> damn vmlinuz is too big for boot floppy
21:10 < Mike1> dajy :)
21:10 < daja77> :(
21:11 < Mike1> 's/:(/:)'
21:11 < capchaos> Hágalo más pequeño, daja. ;-)
21:12 < Mike1> lol
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21:12 < daja77> huh?
21:14 < Mike1> heh!
21:14 < capchaos> ¿Qué se está encendiendo, Mikey?
21:15 < Mike1> capchaos: have i told you already how much your translator sucks?
21:15 < Mike1> :PP
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21:16 < capchaos> Heh, no, but you are free to do so ;)
21:16 < Mike1> capchaos: i guess u ment "what's going ok?' ?
21:16 < capchaos> Yeh, "What's up?".
21:16 < Mike1> capchaos: i will translate what u said: "whats turning on"
21:16 < Mike1> :)
21:17 < capchaos> Yeh, what's burning in your heart, Mikey? :)
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21:17 < Robin_Root> Hi
21:18 < Mike1> capchaos: hehe code, for connection lack
21:18 < Mike1> hi Robin_Root
21:18 < daja77> .oO ringo on drugs
21:18 < Mike1> daja77: why?
21:19 < daja77> dunno, don't ask me *ggg*
21:19 < capchaos> daja77, LSD?
21:19 < Mike1> daja77: :PP
21:19 < daja77> capchaos: perhaps
21:19 < Mike1> capchaos: maybe LPP
21:20 < capchaos> LPP?
21:23 < Mike1> Linux Progresive Patch :P
21:24 * daja77 trying overformatted floppies
21:26 < Mike1> ok i am off, cu later
21:26 < daja77> bye Mike1
21:26 < Mike1> oyasumi nasai
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21:27 < rolla> re
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21:43 < andi5> hi. i am quite new to rock linux and from your point of view probably a total linux newbie. but may i ask questions or will i be damned for my bad english and total missing of knowledge? to prevent a kick: i think i know where there is a missing space in one package conf file :D
21:44 < rolla> :)
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21:44 < tcr> moin all
21:44 * -> esden preparing to kick mode ;-)
21:45 < esden> andi5: no you will not be kicked or banned so easyly
21:45 < esden> you have to work hard for your kick ;-)
21:45 < blindcoder> esden: IIRC the total amount of kicks in #rocklinux is still 0, isn't it?
21:45 * andi5 sighs
21:45 < tcr> eu.freenode seems to have trouble ... I'd been directed twice to some server that seems to be splitted off from the remaining network... Grmbl
21:45 < esden> blindcoder: it is 2 iirc
21:46 * -> esden checking
21:46 < esden> andi5: why do you sigh?
21:46 < esden> andi5: I said that without irony
21:46 < kasc> moin
21:47 < tcr> moin kasc
21:47 < esden> hi kasc 
21:47 < blindcoder> uh-oh... vim discussion in #gametome...
21:47 < esden> tcr: that happened to me some several times too
21:47 < andi5> for not being kicked right after joining :) when i see a typo (or i think to have reconed one), should i type this here or mail patch directly to the maintainer of the packer?
21:48 < rolla> andi5: we are a forgiving bunch
21:48 < rolla> except Owl
21:48 < kasc> what does one have to do to earn a kick anyways?
21:48 < blindcoder> but she's not here right now :)
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21:49 < blindcoder> kasc: hrm... inflict physical pain on esden
21:49 < andi5> but its a base package :) lynx builds by default without ssl for me, does clifford have another nick too? :)
21:49 < blindcoder> andi5: no, rxr is current maintainer of 2.0-branch. Just send patch to mailing-list, it's 80% sure to be read there :)
21:49 < daja77> *aaargl*
21:50 < tcr> moin dreamind.
21:50 < tcr> moin daja77.
21:50 < blindcoder> daja77: still alive?
21:50 < daja77> hi tcr
21:50 < dreamind> hi tcr :)
21:50 < andi5> blindcoder: i will subsribe then
21:50 < daja77> yeah but I am dying with this kernel crap
21:50 * tcr is pleased to see daja77 having pains ;)
21:50 < daja77> tcr: :ppp
21:52 < blindcoder> okay, I'm off to bed now.
21:52 < blindcoder> baba
21:52 < kasc> gn8 blindcoder
21:53 < praenti> gn8 blindcoder
21:54 < daja77> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root         1.5M May 26 14:26 vmlinuz
21:54 < daja77> 1.5M for bootdisk kernel *cursing*
21:54 < tcr> Hihihi
21:54 < andi5> daja77: x builtin?
21:55 < daja77> andi5: ??
21:56 < andi5> daja77: did you compile openoffice into the kernel? (i will shut my mouth now)
21:56 < uninvit3d> good nite everyone...
21:56 < daja77> andi5: nope
21:56 < uninvit3d> esden> hug my rock build. Give it some extra love ! ,-)
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21:57 < kasc> uninvit3d: 1.5M, with openoffice this would be 1.5G
21:58 < kasc> huh? my nick completion seems a bit fuzzy...
21:58 * -> esden hugging uni's build ... 
21:58 < tcr> sure not your fingers are to be blamed?
21:59 < kasc> of course! its always the exchangeable components to be blamed ;)
22:00 < daja77> where can I edit the bootdisk kernel options
22:00 < tcr> Yeah! And if you reference a NULL pointer, it's not your fault, but the compiler's! Or even better the silly guys of the kernel, may they be torn in hell!
22:01 < kasc> they are exchangeable, arent they? >;)
22:02 < tcr> Lucky you... brains ain't yet transplantable ;)
22:03 < kasc> not yet...
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22:05 < tcr> Thanks for the emphazing ;)
22:05 < kasc> hehe
22:06 < tcr> emphasizing even
22:06 < tcr> Hmm... I've been doing quite a lot typos for the last time..
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22:15 -!- needle [~needle@pD9E58EF5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
22:15 < needle> hi
22:16 < n00kie> hi needle
22:17 < needle> i think its an english spoken channel ... is it?
22:17 < n00kie> Yep
22:18 < Freak> more or less ;)
22:18 < Freak> n00kie wird dich auch so verstehn.
22:18 < needle> so - who could tell me something about compiling rock-linux against diet-libc
22:18 < n00kie> Well, for the logs it's better to speak english
22:18 < needle> fein n00kie :)
22:18 < Freak> hehe
22:18 < n00kie> needle: Esden wants to talk
22:19 -!- jhidalgo [~jose@196.40.45.146] has quit (SendQ exceeded)
22:19 < needle> if there is another way - i'm happy too ...
22:19 < needle> i want to build a very compact system - i think diet-libc is great for this
22:20 -!- Freak [freak@p508B10E1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("switching to desktop lancable")
22:20 < tcr> Yeah, just wait for esden, he's the maintainer of the dietc target
22:20 -!- jose_ [~jose@196.40.45.146] has joined #rocklinux
22:20 < n00kie> Hola jose_ :)
22:20 < n00kie> heya tcr
22:20 < needle> my hardware specs are (in range changeable): National Geode GX1 300mhz 64mb ram and 16mb(!) flash.
22:21 < tcr> moin n00kie
22:21 < tcr> needle: What kind of compile error are you getting?
22:21 < needle> i want to have a simple x an this system - no need for windowmanager given ...
22:21 < jose_> n00kie: hi!
22:21 < tcr> It may be not incorrect to send a mail to the ml about that
22:22 < needle> tcr: i have no specified error - i read the readme in 1.7 and there is told of more or less errors in compile
22:22 < tcr> needle: (I don't really know, but I'm just very very suspious that X should be compileable with diet libc)
22:22 < n00kie> hmm
22:22 < needle> tcr: really? hmmm...
22:23 < n00kie> If I remember correctly, esden talked about errors in X
22:23 -!- technicolorrainb [~ringo@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has joined #rocklinux
22:23 < n00kie> But don't know correctly
22:23 < n00kie> maybe I'm wrong
22:23 < n00kie> Howdy ringo
22:23 < tcr> as you see, you should really dig esden about that concern
22:23 < technicolorrainb> hoWdY N00KIe :)
22:23 < esden> ?
22:23 < n00kie> :)
22:23 -!- Freak [freak@p508B3877.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
22:23 < needle> i will ask him about this ... :-)
22:24 < n00kie> ah, here he is your man :)
22:24 < esden> I talked about errors in X?
22:24 -!- andi5 [~andi5@D463c.pppool.de] has quit ("Client exiting")
22:24 < Freak> it got too cold on the balcony :)
22:24 < tcr> Freak: you freak! ;)
22:24 < needle> esden: you've read the last postings?
22:24 < Freak> dare you!
22:25 * -> esden reading scrollback
22:25 < needle> esden: about diet-libc and compiling x - are there any problems known
22:25 < tcr> Freak: (still waring no tshirt an having a ventilator running)
22:25 < Freak> tcr: well..
22:25 < esden> needle: that will not work
22:25 < esden> there are things missing to do that
22:25 < needle> esden: why?
22:26 < esden> you probably can compile tiny x with it but not more
22:26 < Freak> tcr: i had no trousers on, just my pants and a tshirt. got too cold and windy.
22:26 < technicolorrainb> Me needs ventilator 2 :)
22:26 < esden> not even fefe the main developer of dietlibc has his x compiled with dietlibc
22:26 < needle> i need a platform for my qt-x11 programm to run
22:26 < esden> I have not tryed to do it
22:26 < Freak> yuck why'd you have such a long nick?
22:26 < esden> so I also do not know what the exact problem is
22:26 < Freak> cant you just shorten down to tcr?
22:26 < Freak> no wait..
22:26 < Freak> ;)
22:27 < esden> needle: use framebuffer qt
22:27 < technicolorrainb> Its to short actually ... It needs "ow" at  then end.
22:27 < daja77> ringow
22:28 < needle> esden: shure but its a commmercial project and framebuffer qt (qt-embedded) needs to pay license cost per selled item - but i dont want this
22:28 < Freak> technicolorrainb: well..
22:28 < tcr> technicolorrainb: it's really too long for my taste as well
22:28 < esden> needle: hmm ok
22:28 < esden> needle: so use gtk embedded or so ;-)
22:28 < esden> needle: but running x on dietlibc will really be a problem
22:29 -!- technicolorrainb is now known as tncrb
22:29 < tcr> thanks!
22:29 < esden> I still have problems to get a base system running under dietlibc
22:29 < esden> because of library inclusion problem
22:29 < esden> s
22:29 < needle> esden: what about the about size of rock-linux - minimal build with x and glibc? could anybody tell me?
22:30 < esden> needle: I can not tell you that I really do not know
22:31 < Freak> tncrb: tnx
22:31 < Freak> it was like.. killing my window :)
22:31 < Freak> (softly, with this nick)
22:31 < needle> esden: ok - no problem - i will set up a system and try for myself - and maybe i will take a look on this dietlib problem, too
22:32 < esden> needle: current problem in rocklinux with dietlibc is to get gcc use dietlibc as default without a wrapper
22:32 < esden> I had no time till now to do it
22:33 < esden> but that should solve hopefully the last big problem in the dietlibc target
22:33 < tcr> I'm off to bed. gn8 all
22:33 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA9081.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("gn8 all")
22:34 < Freak> wheres mike?!
22:34 < Freak> mike!
22:35 < jose_> like a 1km from me ! 8)
22:35 < Freak> oh really?
22:35 < Freak> call him up
22:35 < Freak> :)
22:35 < jose_> ok!, really, I got his telephone !
22:35 < Freak> nah its not that important.
22:35 < Freak> heh
22:35 < Freak> sweet.
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22:50 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082D5DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
22:50 < tsa> hi all
22:54 < rolla> sweet my slave DNS server is up :)
22:54 < tsa> hehe
22:55 < daja77> siemens sucks
22:58 * daja77 jumping around
22:59 < tncrb> daja77: Did you set it on fire ?
22:59 < rolla> warum?
22:59 < daja77> crappy machine can boot from cd after bios update
23:00 < daja77> *woohoo*
23:01 < esden> daja77: respect
23:01 < Freak> hehe
23:02 < daja77> the hard part is getting that bios update from that crappy siemens homepage ...
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23:14 < Mike1> hi all.
23:14 < tsa> hi Mike1
23:14 < rolla> re
23:14 < Mike1> hola Sebastian
23:15 < Mike1> rolla: i was checking at the stuff in your box, looks like the thing didn't get build properly
23:15 < Mike1> rolla: not sure why yet
23:15 < rolla> hmmm
23:15 < rolla> vewry odd
23:15 * praenti going to bed
23:15 < praenti> gn8
23:15 < rolla> Mike1: when did you login?
23:15 < Mike1> rolla: yes indeed, everything _looks_ to be fine, but then again makemap doesn't work
23:16 < rolla> :)
23:16 < Mike1> rolla: i was on for over 1 hour, i just got off
23:16 < rolla> you try a build clean
23:16 < rolla> and then a build
23:16 < Mike1> ok i will in a bit :)
23:17 < Freak> Mike1!!
23:17 < Mike1> phr34k!
23:17 -!- uninvit3d [~uninvited@ppp-62-245-208-89.mnet-online.de] has joined #rocklinux
23:18 < Freak> just a second, brb
23:18 -!- Freak [freak@p508B3877.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("brb+")
23:18 * Mike1 _invites_ uninvit3d to stay around as much as he wants :)
23:18 < uninvit3d> Behave!
23:18 < uninvit3d> ;-)
23:18 < uninvit3d> Hiya mike, what time ist it in .cr ?
23:19 < Mike1> uninvit3d: i behave, but i had to let ya know that you are very welcome in here :)
23:19 < Mike1> uninvit3d: Mon Jun  2 15:06:45 CST 2003
23:19 < uninvit3d> oh cool...
23:20 < Mike1> yup. :)
23:20 * Mike1 terribly missing his 10mb connection...
23:20 < tsa> hehe
23:20 < tsa> <Mike1> rolla: yes indeed, everything _looks_ to be fine, but then again makemap doesn't work
23:21 < tsa> sendmail probs?
23:21 < Mike1> tsa: not funny, i'm hating cable .. 256k grrrr
23:21 < Mike1> tsa: ack.
23:21 < tsa> explain.
23:21 < tsa> using the rock sendmail package?
23:21 < Mike1> tsa: makemap not wanting to work with hash..
23:21 < rolla> tsa nein
23:21 < Mike1> tsa: nah he build it himself
23:21 -!- Freak [~freak@p508B1ADA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
23:22 < tsa> Mike1: probably a problem with the version of berkeley db used.
23:22 < Mike1> tsa: under my _well_ know steps..
23:22 < Mike1> tsa: yeah that could be, but it is running 1.7
23:22 < tsa> Mike1: ..which includes almost all bdb version that were ever released.
23:22 < Mike1> and the same sendmail version we have in rock so it should not be the problem
23:22 < Mike1> tsa: well yeah u have a point..
23:23 < tsa> i.e. the rock sendmail package just sucks.
23:23 < Mike1> yeah..
23:23 < Mike1> esperemos que nadie se ofenda con el comentario..
23:23 < tsa> i started a try to get rid of this mess on the list about 6 months ago..
23:24 < Mike1> tsa: i remeber
23:24 < Mike1> remeber*
23:24 < tsa> ;)
23:24 < Freak> Mike1?
23:24 < Freak> got me on /ig for /msg?!
23:24 < Mike1> phr34k?
23:25 < tsa> rxr: are you awake?
23:25 < tsa> something sucks here,.
23:26 < Mike1> tsa: ?
23:27 < Mike1> Freak: scheisse why wasn't i here to see such fight
23:27 < tsa> Mike1: i'm trying to introduce a new package, with some pretty strage side-effects.
23:27 < rolla> what fight?
23:27 < Freak> Mike1: ACK!
23:27 < Mike1> tsa: explain..
23:27 < tsa> consider a package containing all its docs in a subdir named "Documentation"
23:27 < Mike1> rolla: Phr34k vs owl
23:28 < rolla> damn
23:28 < rolla> I missed that
23:28 < tsa> therefore:
23:28 < tsa> postinstall="cp -r Documentation/* $docdir"
23:28 < rolla> Freak: when did that happen?
23:28 < Freak> http://p508B1ADA.dip.t-dialin.net/~freak/guckmal/fight.txt
23:29 < rxr> hi tsa
23:29 < Mike1> rxr!
23:29 < tsa> rxr: i have a problem here, maybe you can help
23:29 < tsa> rxr: a new package -  "iptraf"
23:30 < Mike1> tsa: nice pkg :)
23:30 < tsa> all its docs in a subdir named "Documentation"
23:30 < tsa> i do a:
23:30 < tsa> postinstall="cp -r Documentation/* $docdir"
23:30 < rolla> damn
23:30 < tsa> the problem appears in the flists
23:30 < Freak> well
23:30 < Freak> you guys missed it.
23:30 < tsa> iptraf: usr/share/doc/iptraf/Developers/Developers/.svn/prop-base/CHANGELOG-1999.svn-base
23:30 < tsa> iptraf: usr/share/doc/iptraf/Developers/Developers/.svn/prop-base/CHANGELOG-2000.svn-base
23:30 < tsa> iptraf: usr/share/doc/iptraf/Developers/Developers/.svn/prop-base/CHANGELOG-2001.svn-base
23:30 < tsa> iptraf: usr/share/doc/iptraf/Developers/Developers/.svn/prop-base/CHANGELOG-2002.svn-base
23:30 < tsa> iptraf: usr/share/doc/iptraf/Developers/Developers/.svn/prop-base/CHANGELOG-CLIFFORD.svn-base
23:30 < tsa> iptraf: usr/share/doc/iptraf/Developers/Developers/.svn/prop-base/CHANGELOG-ESDEN.svn-base
23:31 < tsa> iptraf: usr/share/doc/iptraf/Developers/Developers/.svn/prop-base/CHANGELOG-RENE.svn-base
23:31 < tsa> (sorry for flooding)
23:31 < Freak> eeeek!
23:31 < Mike1> ARRGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
23:31 * daja77 installing rock to grandma's pc now ...
23:31 < tsa> somehow it starts copying the rock documentation (and the .svn stuff(, too..
23:31 -!- mnemoc [~mnemoc@200.75.27.11] has joined #rocklinux
23:31 < Mike1> daja77: great
23:31 < daja77> hi mnemoc
23:31 < Mike1> hi mnemoc
23:31 < mnemoc> hi :)
23:32 < rolla> I am out of here
23:33 < Mike1> cu rolla i'll check sendmail in a bit
23:34 * daja77 off wathcing tv
23:34 < daja77> install takes that long ...
23:35 < Mike1> mm..
23:36 < mnemoc> anybody using svn:// ?
23:37 < zer0_o> bye all =) i go having some sleep..
23:37 -!- tncrb is now known as ringo78
23:37 < Mike1> 0_o n8
23:37 < mnemoc> rxr: are you here?
23:38 < Mike1> mnemoc: almost everyone is used snv, what problem do u have?
23:38 < rxr> mnemoc: jups
23:38 < mnemoc> svn:// <--- not by http
23:38 < mnemoc> i co successfully
23:38 < mnemoc> but could not 'up'
23:38 < mnemoc> svn: Network connection closed unexpectedly
23:38 < mnemoc> svn: Connection closed unexpectedly
23:39 < rxr> mnemoc: hm interesting ...
23:39 < Mike1> grr...
23:39 < mnemoc> testesd many times from yesterday
23:39 < mnemoc> grr? :-(
23:39 < Mike1> mnemoc: as in it happens to me often too
23:39 < rxr> mnemoc: /me testing ...
23:40 < mnemoc> rxr needs to change hardware again ;-)
23:40 < rxr> mnemoc: nope!
23:40 < Mike1> mnemoc: maybe u need to change hardware :P
23:40 < tsa> i completed a "svn up" about 30 minutes ago...no problems.
23:41 < mnemoc> i'll try rebuilding svn...
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23:42 < rxr> mnemoc: which svn version are you running ?
23:42 < Mike1> funny crap glibc23 brakes on stage 1 if i use optimization for atlhon-mp, but builds fine if i do it for i386..
23:42 < mnemoc> an old one :)
23:42 < rxr> mnemoc: hm - seems to work fine here
23:42 < mnemoc> 0.21.0
23:43 < Mike1> mnemoc: update it.
23:43 < mnemoc> works well over http... but not for svn://
23:43 < rxr> mnemoc: as I wrote svnserve is much faster and leightweight - but the protocol is not yet written into stone - and so for now the client <-> server version shout match quite exactly for the svn:// URL scheme ...
23:43 < mnemoc> # ./scripts/Build-Pkg svn
23:43 -!- cOdEz [~codez@pD952BFDD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving")
23:43 < mnemoc> subversion :(
23:44 < rxr> mnemoc: I did a svn:// co ; and up to -r 266 ; and an up to -r HEAD without any problem ;-)
23:44 < rxr> mnemoc: if the http:// thing just works fine for you stay at it, only use svn:// if you have performance problems ...
23:45 < rxr> but altough I have all the maintenance work with svn I really like it
23:45 < mnemoc> but... my old 0.21 eats all your 0.23 server as it did to 0.22?
23:45 < Mike1> define eat
23:46 < rxr> mnemoc: but only due to memory shorage on the Apache site - didn't we solved this with the huge amount of RAM now available to httpd?
23:46 < rxr> mnemoc: Out Of Memory killed processes ? ;-)
23:46 < Mike1> *ggg*
23:47 < mnemoc> one thing is to have too much memory to spend.... but the desired is to use short amount and reuse it :)
23:47 < mnemoc> == 17:49:15 =[9]=> Building rene/subversion [0.23.0 2.0.0-beta4].
23:49 < rxr> mnemoc: sure - it is really nice that you wanna save my hardware costs ;-)
23:49 < rxr> in the future the memory consumption for Apache access will also drop down.
23:49 < Mike1> mnemoc: rxr is rich, ask him to sponsor u some new hardware :)
23:49 < rxr> (the svn folk promisse)
23:50 < rxr> mnemoc: to bad you are only kidding ...
23:50 < rxr> er should have been Mike1 ... :-(
23:50 < rxr> damn completion ...
23:50 < mnemoc> :)
23:51 < Mike1> rxr: we really need to get some more PR work on getting sponsors for the developers
23:51 < Mike1> some of us really need it..
23:52 < rxr> Mike1: yes - people like /me ;-)
23:52 < Mike1> rxr: s/me/us
23:52 < rxr> Btw: The Subversion repository overview with some lines of help:
23:52 < rxr> http://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/
23:53 < rxr> Mike1: I only needed to offend that I'm rich
23:54 < Mike1> rxr: huh?
23:54 < rxr> Mike1: you said so ...
23:54 < rxr> 23:49 < Mike1> mnemoc: rxr is rich, ask him to sponsor u some new hardware :)
23:54 < mnemoc> i'm open to receive ANY donation ;-)
23:54 < Mike1> rxr: i was just joking around man, please don't take it personal
23:54 < rxr> Mike1: I know you where joking - as I was, too ;-)
23:55 < Mike1> rxr: sorry if offended u, it really have not been my intention.
23:55 * rxr of taking a nap
23:55 < rxr> Mike1: hey - really no problem ;-)
23:55 < Mike1> mnemoc: i got a couple of of 1/2 functional 8086, want them?
23:56 < Mike1> rxr: good, enjoy nap :)
23:56 < mnemoc> i have 2 of them, and 6 8088 ;)
23:56 < Mike1> mnemoc: u said "ANY donation"
23:56 < mnemoc> mmm....
23:56 < mnemoc> yea.. i said so
23:56 < Mike1> mnemoc: why the hell around helping us on elks ?!?!
23:56 < rxr> my father has a selfmade 8085 board ...
23:56 < mnemoc> :o
23:57 < Mike1> 8085 cool! rxr pics pics?? please please please :))
23:57 < rxr> Mike1: ooh - the box is 300 km away - I'll make some pics when I'm visiting my parents the next time
23:58 < Mike1> rxr: actually ask ur father if he wanna sponsor one of those to elks :)
23:58 < Mike1> rxr: i promise we will make it run linux :)
23:59 < rxr> the box really sucks - I tried soe assembly around 10 years ago and you have to enter each instruction on a 10-key numeric pad, and it has around 8 7-segment LED display
23:59 < mnemoc> drock? ;)
23:59 < Mike1> 8085... damn i really would like to see something like that, i've never seen such thing
23:59 < rxr> the good thing - it has a tape plug to store and reload progs from any tape deck ...
23:59 < Mike1> mnemoc: elks..
23:59 < Mike1> rxr: pretty cool
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