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--- Log opened Mon Jun 02 00:00:07 2003 --- Day changed Mon Jun 02 2003 00:00 < rxr> hi holyolli 00:00 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 00:00 < holyolli> *g* i hope that's only some alcohol and tiredness...nothing with flames and burnings...? ;) 00:00 < holyolli> hi rxr 00:00 < holyolli> rxr: good to see you...where can i find some actual packages of the current beta of drock? 00:01 < ringo78> no burnings only afew from the past when I was 4 years old . 00:03 < rxr> holyolli: you mean some single binary packages ? 00:03 < holyolli> rxr: jepp 00:03 < rxr> hm I could copy my last build to some location ... 00:04 < holyolli> rxr: because there are many packages in the last release, which weren't complete...even so inclomplete that i can't compile anything 00:05 < rxr> https://schillernet.dyndns.org/rock-linux/x86/ 00:05 < holyolli> rxr: isn't it possible to mount the cd images on the webserver loopback? 00:05 < holyolli> thx 00:05 < rxr> still copying ... 00:05 < holyolli> i c 00:05 < holyolli> ;) 00:10 < rxr> holyolli: copy finished 00:12 < holyolli> rxr: thx 00:12 < holyolli> rxr: what about the loopback idea? 00:12 < daja77> hmm it seems that initrd is too big, well we'll see 00:13 < rxr> I have not current ISO on a server due to too many broken IBM disk 00:13 < rxr> and additionally I do not trust loopback enought to use it on server systems ... 00:14 < daja77> rxr: what you havent still got your hds back 00:15 < mnemoc> how many month waiting? 00:15 < rxr> I have one back - for the other I got a notice that it is shipped ... 00:15 < rxr> mnemoc: nope - I'll plug one of the two into the gsmp.tfh-berlin.de server 00:16 < rxr> but I would like the 40GB one in it, not the 30 GB (although I do not yet have found out whether I sent two 40 GB discs and HGST send a smaller one back - or if I really sent a 30GB driver ... ?!?!) 00:20 < holyolli> rxr: ok - finished the download... 00:23 -!- A-Tui [~eof@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.1") 00:28 < daja77> *argl* I hate old hardware 00:41 -!- Freak [~freak@p508B31E6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("switching cables") 00:46 -!- bluefire [bluefire@p50817273.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 00:53 -!- Freak [freak@p508B335E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:54 < daja77> hmm this doesn't look very nice https://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~jahre/rock_hp_problem_galeon.jpg 00:54 < daja77> anyone noticed this with a more recent browser 00:56 < Freak> yup. 00:56 < Freak> thats when you assume ppl got 1024px 00:57 < daja77> *gna* resolution optimized? 00:58 < Freak> not necessarily 01:04 < daja77> everybody sleeping? 01:04 < rxr> daja77: nope 01:04 < daja77> ok 01:04 < daja77> fine 01:05 < daja77> just getting nervous ... 01:05 * jsaw is also awake 01:05 < jsaw> look at the source of the page: 01:06 < jsaw> the div tags around table. 01:07 < jsaw> that's either a specification uncertanty, or browser error 01:08 < daja77> :( 01:18 < Freak> the thing is: the lines would have to break to fit a smaller width. 01:18 < Freak> and they dont. 01:18 < Freak> so thats a layout problem. 01:20 < jsaw> no. the frame behind the table shouldn't get smaller than the table. 01:22 < jsaw> (try to make a html table auto-break from 4 into 3 columns if the width doesn't fit) 01:25 < Freak> ack 01:25 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M298P009.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:26 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M305P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 02:21 < holyolli> z.qcy 02:21 < mnemoc> a password holyolli? 02:21 < mnemoc> :) 02:21 < mnemoc> /clear 02:22 < holyolli> nope...i was on my dvorak keyboard with qwerty layout =) 02:22 < holyolli> ;) 02:23 < mnemoc> :( 02:23 < Freak> :) 02:24 < mnemoc> never seen a dvorak... what z.qcy means in qwerty? 02:24 < holyolli> "/exit" 02:24 < holyolli> ;-) 02:24 < holyolli> <-- wanted to go to the pool ;) 02:24 < mnemoc> good luck 02:25 < holyolli> it's now a little bit later and the temperature is getting down... 02:25 < Freak> what timezone you in? 02:25 < Freak> (=where r u) 02:25 < holyolli> GMT-7 02:25 < holyolli> phoenix/arizona 02:25 < Freak> nice 02:25 < Freak> its 2am here =) 02:25 < holyolli> no. f***ing hot. he had today 47 degress 02:26 < Freak> wheee! 02:26 < holyolli> and it will get up to 50 this summer 02:26 < Freak> omigod 02:26 < holyolli> but it's dry - so it isn't that hot feeling like in .de 02:26 < Freak> heh 02:27 < holyolli> but in august i'm back in germany *froi* 02:27 < Freak> =) 02:29 < holyolli> o.k. cya 02:29 < Freak> cu 02:29 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@www.digital-dictators.de] has quit ("ircII EPIC4-1.0.1 -- Are we there yet?") 02:30 < Freak> n8 02:30 -!- Freak [freak@p508B335E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exciting") 03:42 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p3EE1E28F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 06:35 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux 07:03 < n00kie> moin 07:13 < blindcoder> moin 07:20 < jsaw> moin moin. 07:22 < jsaw> what was that email today misusing cliffords name today? 07:31 < blindcoder> oh that 07:32 < blindcoder> happens sometimes 07:32 < blindcoder> isn't the first time and for sure not the last 07:34 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M305P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08:07 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M305P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 08:27 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: praenti, SMP 08:28 -!- Netsplit over, joins: praenti, SMP 09:09 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M305P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:26 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M290P025.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 09:56 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 11:01 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p5080252A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:01 < netrunner> re 11:15 < rxr> hi netrunner 11:18 -!- Freak [freak@p508B1E73.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:40 < daja77> moin 11:49 < daja77> cu öater 11:54 -!- Freak [freak@p508B1E73.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 11:58 < daja77> later! 12:25 < netrunner> hi rxr. started a new build for k6-2 generic with rev 421 this morning (currently working on 5-coreutils. 12:41 * blindcoder building vim 6.2 12:55 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:23 < rxr> hi daja77 13:24 < rxr> blindcoder: cool vim 6.2 ;-) 13:24 < blindcoder> rxr: and he syntax highlighting for our .desc files is in it :) 13:31 < rxr> ;-) 13:33 -!- mnemoc [~mnemoc@200.75.27.67] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:41 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p5080252A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:00 < esden> weeeeeeeee my .desc syntax file is in the new vim version !!!! 14:00 < esden> cool 14:00 < esden> finally 14:01 < blindcoder> hi esden 14:01 < blindcoder> esden: hehe :-) 14:01 < esden> but I have to send in an updated version that is laying around on my harddisk 14:01 < blindcoder> esden: you're late to do that 14:02 < esden> I did not know where to send it in ... because the address of the guy that was maintaing vim was not reachable 14:03 < esden> blindcoder: but it is better then nothing 14:03 < esden> and we can include a patch in the vim packet updating that file 14:04 < blindcoder> hmhm 14:07 < esden> grrrr: esdentem@athalle20:~/rene/rock-trunk $ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=../../build_root/lib/ ../../build_root/bin/svn up 14:07 < esden> svn: Network connection closed unexpectedly 14:07 < esden> svn: Connection closed unexpectedly 14:07 < esden> reneeeeeee! 14:07 < esden> ;-) 14:08 < blindcoder> *lol* 14:08 -!- netcrow_ [~netcrow@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has joined #rocklinux 14:09 -!- aszlig_ [~aszlig@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has joined #rocklinux 14:09 < esden> huhu netcrow_, aszlig_ 14:09 < esden> my day has been resurected, thanks to the vim guys ;-) 14:10 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:11 -!- aszlig [~aszlig@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:17 -!- tfing [tfing@shagwell.viktorrydberg.studenthem.gu.se] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:22 < n00kie> hmmm 14:22 < n00kie> 94 new mails 14:26 < esden> hi n00kie 14:26 < n00kie> hola esden :) 14:26 < n00kie> How are you? 14:30 < esden> fine thanks ... I am very happy that I see my .desc syntax file in the new vim ;-) 14:30 < n00kie> Congratulation :) 14:30 < esden> and how are you ? 14:30 < n00kie> Fine, but it's very hot 14:30 < n00kie> 32° :( 14:31 < esden> I really do not want to know how hot it is in here ... 14:31 < esden> .oO(why is that cd not willing to boot) 14:32 < esden> .oO(building the kernel in the bootdisc target takes ages) 14:32 < n00kie> Yep 14:32 < n00kie> It took my 1hr to build it on a athlon xp 2300 :/ 14:32 < esden> argl 14:33 < esden> I only have an athlon tb 1200 14:33 < n00kie> mm 14:33 < n00kie> maybe it'll took you 20-30minutes more 14:33 < esden> I need new hardware => need money 14:34 < esden> I hope that it will be ready soon cuz I want to test it ... 14:34 < n00kie> i can understand you 14:36 < n00kie> and it's so hot too 14:42 < n00kie> Well 14:42 < n00kie> I'm going to sleep a round :) 14:42 < n00kie> bbl 14:43 < esden> n8 n00kie 14:43 < n00kie> thans 14:43 < n00kie> thanks* 14:53 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p50802AE4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:55 < esden> huhu netrunner 14:56 < rolla> crap 14:58 * blindcoder going home 14:58 < blindcoder> bye 14:58 < esden> cu blindcoder 15:25 -!- owl [~owl@aszlig.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:25 < owl> hi 15:25 < rolla> hallo 15:26 < owl> hi rolla 15:37 -!- tfing [tfing@shagwell.viktorrydberg.studenthem.gu.se] has joined #rocklinux 15:37 < owl> hi tfing 15:38 < tfing> hi 15:40 -!- owl [~owl@aszlig.net] has quit ("Committed Suicide.") 15:41 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 15:53 -!- tfing_ [tfing@shagwell.viktorrydberg.studenthem.gu.se] has joined #rocklinux 15:53 -!- tfing [tfing@shagwell.viktorrydberg.studenthem.gu.se] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:14 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing 16:35 < daja77> re 16:39 < rolla> re 16:39 < daja77> hey rolla 16:40 < rolla> :) 16:40 < daja77> rolla: what's up? 16:42 < rolla> crap 16:42 < daja77> O_o ?? 16:42 < rolla> my DNS servers are down :( 16:42 < daja77> oh 16:42 < rolla> so my mail and webserver are down 16:42 < rolla> damn damn 16:42 < daja77> ahem need some frog pills? 16:42 < rolla> ? 16:43 < daja77> to calm down *ggg* 16:43 < rolla> ha ha 16:43 < rolla> no I am going home here soon to fix it 16:43 < daja77> ok :) 16:46 < rolla> yeah 16:46 < rolla> now I am running cheops on the company network :) 16:46 < daja77> cheops? 16:46 < rolla> https://www.marko.net/cheops/ 16:49 < daja77> https://osg.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/forschung/cheops/ *ggg* 16:49 < rolla> ha ha 16:49 < daja77> .oO rolla in bad mood :)) 16:50 < rolla> ? 16:50 < rolla> why? 16:50 < daja77> hmm seems so 16:50 < rolla> not really 16:50 < daja77> good 16:53 < blindcoder> frog pills? WHERE? 16:53 < blindcoder> hi all :) 16:54 * daja77 gives frog pills to blindcoder 16:55 < daja77> hi blindcoder 17:00 < rolla> hallo blindcoder 17:07 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M290P025.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:09 < daja77> blindcoder: no build running? 17:09 < blindcoder> nah, not right now 17:15 < rolla> even I do not have a build going 17:15 < daja77> rolla: haha you are wasting cpu cycles 17:16 * daja77 has no build running too :D 17:18 < rolla> daja77: yes I am but since none of the builds ever work 17:18 < rolla> I am wondering if I am wasting cpu cycles either way 17:19 < daja77> hmm dunno 17:19 < rxr> re 17:19 < daja77> hi rxr 17:27 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M365P012.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 17:40 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-zh-12-2-dialup-232.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 17:49 < netrunner> ts ... I just won 2 cards for the skyline tonight ... me and disco *g* 17:56 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:09 -!- jhidalgo [~jose@196.40.45.146] has joined #rocklinux 18:21 -!- Pyro [~mike@196.40.66.18] has joined #rocklinux 18:21 < Pyro> Good day. 18:21 < Pyro> ping rxr 18:22 < Pyro> Does anyone have or know of someone who has an install cd of 1.7 / 2.0 with AcceleRAID support? 18:28 < rxr> pong Pyro 18:28 < Pyro> ha! finally, hi Ren 18:29 < rxr> yes - me busy and soon away ... 18:29 < Pyro> rxr: i need to install ROCK on box which as a raid, but this is really not working for me, do u have any isos which may work for it? 18:29 < rxr> I'm just taking a look which driver is needed - so we have more sofisiticated SCSI and RAID support in future ROCK releases ... 18:29 < Pyro> rxr i know u are always busy, sorry for bothering u my friend, i just really need ths 18:29 < Pyro> rxr: i need DAC960 .. 18:31 < rxr> hm how urgent is this? 18:31 < Pyro> i've got some debian cds laying around which do recognize my raid properly, but i wanto ROCK the box... 18:31 < Pyro> rxr: urgent, the highest priority as it is for a production box.. 18:31 < rxr> Mike since when do you call you Pyro? 18:31 < tfing> since he started reading m3g4tokyo ? 18:32 < Pyro> i've been using it since a while but not quite often 18:32 < rxr> Pyro: I have pretty much todo at university and could look into more useful module support on the install CD the next days ... 18:32 < Pyro> tfing: nah :P 18:32 < tfing> could have been that :) 18:32 < rxr> maybe tonight - but not in the next minutes ... 18:32 < Pyro> rxr: i understand... would u have any ideas or suggestions for me so i can work around the stuff my self for now 18:32 < rxr> Pyro: I'm very sorry - I have to leave now ... 18:33 < Pyro> rxr: no worries my friend. have a good day and thanks for ur thime 18:33 < Pyro> tfing: yeah but no :) 18:33 < Pyro> maybe i should switch to my know nick :) 18:33 -!- Pyro is now known as Mike1 18:33 < rxr> Pyro: take a look if the module is present on the CD somewhere - or extract the linux24.gem and load the module 18:33 < rxr> or if it is really not possible to get to the module "quickly" build a custom boot-cd with it ... 18:34 < Mike1> rxr: good idea thanks 18:34 < rxr> cu later 18:34 < Mike1> cu rxr 18:34 < rxr> but if you have a desktop build the linux24.gem may not match the install-cd kernel conf - so the module might not be loadable ... 18:34 < rxr> anyway much progres ;-) 18:34 < Mike1> arrgg 18:34 < Mike1> thanks 18:35 * Mike1 hitting himself against the wall 18:35 < Mike1> cu later guys. 18:35 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.66.18] has quit ("leaving") 18:59 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 19:03 * jhidalgo happy.... waiting for his burrito 19:08 < rolla> re 19:14 < netrunner> hi rolla 19:20 < netrunner> hm animatrix tonight on pro7 19:21 * netrunner -> Bladenight 19:28 -!- cOdEz [~codez@pD952BFDD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:43 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-zh-12-2-dialup-232.freesurf.ch] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19:53 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-ls-3-2-dialup-123.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 20:04 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.66.18] has joined #rocklinux 20:05 < Mike1> re. 20:07 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dialin-145-254-160-209.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:09 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9522780.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:09 < Mike1> capy. 20:11 < capchaos> Mikey. 20:11 < Mike1> ;-) 20:11 < capchaos> Can anyone tell me why ROCK using the binutils from kernel.org ? 20:11 < capchaos> especially why the "devel" ones. 20:12 < capchaos> Are they better than the gnu.org and redhat ones? 20:13 < tfing> are they different ? 20:14 < capchaos> At least different versioning .. 20:17 < rxr> capchaos: the gnu ones are only realeasd every few ice-ages ... 20:17 < capchaos> kernel.org has 2.14.90.0.4 (same as in ROCK) - and redhat provides snapshots and 2.13.91. 20:17 < rxr> capchaos: I do not know about some red-hat ones - we just ever used these "official" intermediate releases for linux ... 20:18 < capchaos> Ok, that is plausible, rxr. 20:18 < capchaos> ftp://sources.redhat.com/pub/binutils/snapshots 20:26 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@p50801967.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:26 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F2A9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: blindcod1r!blindcoder@p50801967.dip.t-dialin.net))) 20:26 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 20:28 < daja77> hey Mike1 20:32 < daja77> are you here Don Miguel? 20:40 -!- [anders] [anders@dsl-62-3-122-161.zen.co.uk] has joined #rocklinux 20:41 < daja77> hi [anders] 20:45 -!- uninvit3d [~uninvited@ppp-62-245-208-89.mnet-online.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:46 < [anders]> lo daja77 20:49 < uninvit3d> good ... 20:54 < rolla> now to setup DNS 20:56 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M365P012.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Damn, wrong button.") 21:00 < esden> hi ho 21:01 < daja77> hi esden 21:01 < rolla> re esden 21:01 < Mike1> master [anders] 21:01 < Mike1> hi daja77 yes i am here for 1/2 a bit 21:02 < Mike1> == 06/02/03 06:19:44 =[1]=> Aborted building package glibc23. 21:02 < Mike1> wtf?? 21:02 < rolla> Mike1: 21:03 < Mike1> hi joel 21:06 -!- aszlig_ [~aszlig@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has quit ("server reboot") 21:08 -!- netcrow_ [~netcrow@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 21:08 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.66.18] has quit ("leaving") 21:09 -!- ringo78 is now known as technicolorrainb 21:09 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.66.18] has joined #rocklinux 21:09 < Mike1> re. 21:09 < capchaos> WB, Mikey. 21:09 < Mike1> danke capy 21:09 < capchaos> :) 21:10 < daja77> damn vmlinuz is too big for boot floppy 21:10 < Mike1> dajy :) 21:10 < daja77> :( 21:11 < Mike1> 's/:(/:)' 21:11 < capchaos> Hágalo más pequeño, daja. ;-) 21:12 < Mike1> lol 21:12 -!- technicolorrainb [~dunno@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has quit ("leaving") 21:12 < daja77> huh? 21:14 < Mike1> heh! 21:14 < capchaos> ¿Qué se está encendiendo, Mikey? 21:15 < Mike1> capchaos: have i told you already how much your translator sucks? 21:15 < Mike1> :PP 21:15 -!- aszlig [~aszlig@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has joined #rocklinux 21:16 < capchaos> Heh, no, but you are free to do so ;) 21:16 < Mike1> capchaos: i guess u ment "what's going ok?' ? 21:16 < capchaos> Yeh, "What's up?". 21:16 < Mike1> capchaos: i will translate what u said: "whats turning on" 21:16 < Mike1> :) 21:17 < capchaos> Yeh, what's burning in your heart, Mikey? :) 21:17 -!- Robin_Root [emix@ip212-2-22.dialup.edisontel.com] has joined #rocklinux 21:17 < Robin_Root> Hi 21:18 < Mike1> capchaos: hehe code, for connection lack 21:18 < Mike1> hi Robin_Root 21:18 < daja77> .oO ringo on drugs 21:18 < Mike1> daja77: why? 21:19 < daja77> dunno, don't ask me *ggg* 21:19 < capchaos> daja77, LSD? 21:19 < Mike1> daja77: :PP 21:19 < daja77> capchaos: perhaps 21:19 < Mike1> capchaos: maybe LPP 21:20 < capchaos> LPP? 21:23 < Mike1> Linux Progresive Patch :P 21:24 * daja77 trying overformatted floppies 21:26 < Mike1> ok i am off, cu later 21:26 < daja77> bye Mike1 21:26 < Mike1> oyasumi nasai 21:27 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.66.18] has quit ("leaving") 21:27 < rolla> re 21:29 -!- Freak [freak@p508B10E1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:35 -!- andi5 [~andi5@D463c.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:43 < andi5> hi. i am quite new to rock linux and from your point of view probably a total linux newbie. but may i ask questions or will i be damned for my bad english and total missing of knowledge? to prevent a kick: i think i know where there is a missing space in one package conf file :D 21:44 < rolla> :) 21:44 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA9081.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:44 < tcr> moin all 21:44 * -> esden preparing to kick mode ;-) 21:45 < esden> andi5: no you will not be kicked or banned so easyly 21:45 < esden> you have to work hard for your kick ;-) 21:45 < blindcoder> esden: IIRC the total amount of kicks in #rocklinux is still 0, isn't it? 21:45 * andi5 sighs 21:45 < tcr> eu.freenode seems to have trouble ... I'd been directed twice to some server that seems to be splitted off from the remaining network... Grmbl 21:45 < esden> blindcoder: it is 2 iirc 21:46 * -> esden checking 21:46 < esden> andi5: why do you sigh? 21:46 < esden> andi5: I said that without irony 21:46 < kasc> moin 21:47 < tcr> moin kasc 21:47 < esden> hi kasc 21:47 < blindcoder> uh-oh... vim discussion in #gametome... 21:47 < esden> tcr: that happened to me some several times too 21:47 < andi5> for not being kicked right after joining :) when i see a typo (or i think to have reconed one), should i type this here or mail patch directly to the maintainer of the packer? 21:48 < rolla> andi5: we are a forgiving bunch 21:48 < rolla> except Owl 21:48 < kasc> what does one have to do to earn a kick anyways? 21:48 < blindcoder> but she's not here right now :) 21:49 -!- dreamind [dreamind@skeeter.dreamind.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:49 < blindcoder> kasc: hrm... inflict physical pain on esden 21:49 < andi5> but its a base package :) lynx builds by default without ssl for me, does clifford have another nick too? :) 21:49 < blindcoder> andi5: no, rxr is current maintainer of 2.0-branch. Just send patch to mailing-list, it's 80% sure to be read there :) 21:49 < daja77> *aaargl* 21:50 < tcr> moin dreamind. 21:50 < tcr> moin daja77. 21:50 < blindcoder> daja77: still alive? 21:50 < daja77> hi tcr 21:50 < dreamind> hi tcr :) 21:50 < andi5> blindcoder: i will subsribe then 21:50 < daja77> yeah but I am dying with this kernel crap 21:50 * tcr is pleased to see daja77 having pains ;) 21:50 < daja77> tcr: :ppp 21:52 < blindcoder> okay, I'm off to bed now. 21:52 < blindcoder> baba 21:52 < kasc> gn8 blindcoder 21:53 < praenti> gn8 blindcoder 21:54 < daja77> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1.5M May 26 14:26 vmlinuz 21:54 < daja77> 1.5M for bootdisk kernel *cursing* 21:54 < tcr> Hihihi 21:54 < andi5> daja77: x builtin? 21:55 < daja77> andi5: ?? 21:56 < andi5> daja77: did you compile openoffice into the kernel? (i will shut my mouth now) 21:56 < uninvit3d> good nite everyone... 21:56 < daja77> andi5: nope 21:56 < uninvit3d> esden> hug my rock build. Give it some extra love ! ,-) 21:56 -!- dreamind [dreamind@skeeter.dreamind.de] has quit ("Client exiting") 21:57 -!- uninvit3d [~uninvited@ppp-62-245-208-89.mnet-online.de] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 21:57 < kasc> uninvit3d: 1.5M, with openoffice this would be 1.5G 21:58 < kasc> huh? my nick completion seems a bit fuzzy... 21:58 * -> esden hugging uni's build ... 21:58 < tcr> sure not your fingers are to be blamed? 21:59 < kasc> of course! its always the exchangeable components to be blamed ;) 22:00 < daja77> where can I edit the bootdisk kernel options 22:00 < tcr> Yeah! And if you reference a NULL pointer, it's not your fault, but the compiler's! Or even better the silly guys of the kernel, may they be torn in hell! 22:01 < kasc> they are exchangeable, arent they? >;) 22:02 < tcr> Lucky you... brains ain't yet transplantable ;) 22:03 < kasc> not yet... 22:04 -!- [anders] [anders@dsl-62-3-122-161.zen.co.uk] has left #rocklinux () 22:05 < tcr> Thanks for the emphazing ;) 22:05 < kasc> hehe 22:06 < tcr> emphasizing even 22:06 < tcr> Hmm... I've been doing quite a lot typos for the last time.. 22:11 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dialin-145-254-160-209.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("leaving") 22:11 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M304P026.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 22:15 -!- needle [~needle@pD9E58EF5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:15 < needle> hi 22:16 < n00kie> hi needle 22:17 < needle> i think its an english spoken channel ... is it? 22:17 < n00kie> Yep 22:18 < Freak> more or less ;) 22:18 < Freak> n00kie wird dich auch so verstehn. 22:18 < needle> so - who could tell me something about compiling rock-linux against diet-libc 22:18 < n00kie> Well, for the logs it's better to speak english 22:18 < needle> fein n00kie :) 22:18 < Freak> hehe 22:18 < n00kie> needle: Esden wants to talk 22:19 -!- jhidalgo [~jose@196.40.45.146] has quit (SendQ exceeded) 22:19 < needle> if there is another way - i'm happy too ... 22:19 < needle> i want to build a very compact system - i think diet-libc is great for this 22:20 -!- Freak [freak@p508B10E1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("switching to desktop lancable") 22:20 < tcr> Yeah, just wait for esden, he's the maintainer of the dietc target 22:20 -!- jose_ [~jose@196.40.45.146] has joined #rocklinux 22:20 < n00kie> Hola jose_ :) 22:20 < n00kie> heya tcr 22:20 < needle> my hardware specs are (in range changeable): National Geode GX1 300mhz 64mb ram and 16mb(!) flash. 22:21 < tcr> moin n00kie 22:21 < tcr> needle: What kind of compile error are you getting? 22:21 < needle> i want to have a simple x an this system - no need for windowmanager given ... 22:21 < jose_> n00kie: hi! 22:21 < tcr> It may be not incorrect to send a mail to the ml about that 22:22 < needle> tcr: i have no specified error - i read the readme in 1.7 and there is told of more or less errors in compile 22:22 < tcr> needle: (I don't really know, but I'm just very very suspious that X should be compileable with diet libc) 22:22 < n00kie> hmm 22:22 < needle> tcr: really? hmmm... 22:23 < n00kie> If I remember correctly, esden talked about errors in X 22:23 -!- technicolorrainb [~ringo@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has joined #rocklinux 22:23 < n00kie> But don't know correctly 22:23 < n00kie> maybe I'm wrong 22:23 < n00kie> Howdy ringo 22:23 < tcr> as you see, you should really dig esden about that concern 22:23 < technicolorrainb> hoWdY N00KIe :) 22:23 < esden> ? 22:23 < n00kie> :) 22:23 -!- Freak [freak@p508B3877.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:23 < needle> i will ask him about this ... :-) 22:24 < n00kie> ah, here he is your man :) 22:24 < esden> I talked about errors in X? 22:24 -!- andi5 [~andi5@D463c.pppool.de] has quit ("Client exiting") 22:24 < Freak> it got too cold on the balcony :) 22:24 < tcr> Freak: you freak! ;) 22:24 < needle> esden: you've read the last postings? 22:24 < Freak> dare you! 22:25 * -> esden reading scrollback 22:25 < needle> esden: about diet-libc and compiling x - are there any problems known 22:25 < tcr> Freak: (still waring no tshirt an having a ventilator running) 22:25 < Freak> tcr: well.. 22:25 < esden> needle: that will not work 22:25 < esden> there are things missing to do that 22:25 < needle> esden: why? 22:26 < esden> you probably can compile tiny x with it but not more 22:26 < Freak> tcr: i had no trousers on, just my pants and a tshirt. got too cold and windy. 22:26 < technicolorrainb> Me needs ventilator 2 :) 22:26 < esden> not even fefe the main developer of dietlibc has his x compiled with dietlibc 22:26 < needle> i need a platform for my qt-x11 programm to run 22:26 < esden> I have not tryed to do it 22:26 < Freak> yuck why'd you have such a long nick? 22:26 < esden> so I also do not know what the exact problem is 22:26 < Freak> cant you just shorten down to tcr? 22:26 < Freak> no wait.. 22:26 < Freak> ;) 22:27 < esden> needle: use framebuffer qt 22:27 < technicolorrainb> Its to short actually ... It needs "ow" at then end. 22:27 < daja77> ringow 22:28 < needle> esden: shure but its a commmercial project and framebuffer qt (qt-embedded) needs to pay license cost per selled item - but i dont want this 22:28 < Freak> technicolorrainb: well.. 22:28 < tcr> technicolorrainb: it's really too long for my taste as well 22:28 < esden> needle: hmm ok 22:28 < esden> needle: so use gtk embedded or so ;-) 22:28 < esden> needle: but running x on dietlibc will really be a problem 22:29 -!- technicolorrainb is now known as tncrb 22:29 < tcr> thanks! 22:29 < esden> I still have problems to get a base system running under dietlibc 22:29 < esden> because of library inclusion problem 22:29 < esden> s 22:29 < needle> esden: what about the about size of rock-linux - minimal build with x and glibc? could anybody tell me? 22:30 < esden> needle: I can not tell you that I really do not know 22:31 < Freak> tncrb: tnx 22:31 < Freak> it was like.. killing my window :) 22:31 < Freak> (softly, with this nick) 22:31 < needle> esden: ok - no problem - i will set up a system and try for myself - and maybe i will take a look on this dietlib problem, too 22:32 < esden> needle: current problem in rocklinux with dietlibc is to get gcc use dietlibc as default without a wrapper 22:32 < esden> I had no time till now to do it 22:33 < esden> but that should solve hopefully the last big problem in the dietlibc target 22:33 < tcr> I'm off to bed. gn8 all 22:33 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA9081.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("gn8 all") 22:34 < Freak> wheres mike?! 22:34 < Freak> mike! 22:35 < jose_> like a 1km from me ! 8) 22:35 < Freak> oh really? 22:35 < Freak> call him up 22:35 < Freak> :) 22:35 < jose_> ok!, really, I got his telephone ! 22:35 < Freak> nah its not that important. 22:35 < Freak> heh 22:35 < Freak> sweet. 22:37 -!- Robin_Root [emix@ip212-2-22.dialup.edisontel.com] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22:50 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082D5DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:50 < tsa> hi all 22:54 < rolla> sweet my slave DNS server is up :) 22:54 < tsa> hehe 22:55 < daja77> siemens sucks 22:58 * daja77 jumping around 22:59 < tncrb> daja77: Did you set it on fire ? 22:59 < rolla> warum? 22:59 < daja77> crappy machine can boot from cd after bios update 23:00 < daja77> *woohoo* 23:01 < esden> daja77: respect 23:01 < Freak> hehe 23:02 < daja77> the hard part is getting that bios update from that crappy siemens homepage ... 23:02 -!- kasc [~kasc@p509099BC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23:13 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.66.18] has joined #rocklinux 23:14 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090A795.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:14 < Mike1> hi all. 23:14 < tsa> hi Mike1 23:14 < rolla> re 23:14 < Mike1> hola Sebastian 23:15 < Mike1> rolla: i was checking at the stuff in your box, looks like the thing didn't get build properly 23:15 < Mike1> rolla: not sure why yet 23:15 < rolla> hmmm 23:15 < rolla> vewry odd 23:15 * praenti going to bed 23:15 < praenti> gn8 23:15 < rolla> Mike1: when did you login? 23:15 < Mike1> rolla: yes indeed, everything _looks_ to be fine, but then again makemap doesn't work 23:16 < rolla> :) 23:16 < Mike1> rolla: i was on for over 1 hour, i just got off 23:16 < rolla> you try a build clean 23:16 < rolla> and then a build 23:16 < Mike1> ok i will in a bit :) 23:17 < Freak> Mike1!! 23:17 < Mike1> phr34k! 23:17 -!- uninvit3d [~uninvited@ppp-62-245-208-89.mnet-online.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:18 < Freak> just a second, brb 23:18 -!- Freak [freak@p508B3877.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("brb+") 23:18 * Mike1 _invites_ uninvit3d to stay around as much as he wants :) 23:18 < uninvit3d> Behave! 23:18 < uninvit3d> ;-) 23:18 < uninvit3d> Hiya mike, what time ist it in .cr ? 23:19 < Mike1> uninvit3d: i behave, but i had to let ya know that you are very welcome in here :) 23:19 < Mike1> uninvit3d: Mon Jun 2 15:06:45 CST 2003 23:19 < uninvit3d> oh cool... 23:20 < Mike1> yup. :) 23:20 * Mike1 terribly missing his 10mb connection... 23:20 < tsa> hehe 23:20 < tsa> <Mike1> rolla: yes indeed, everything _looks_ to be fine, but then again makemap doesn't work 23:21 < tsa> sendmail probs? 23:21 < Mike1> tsa: not funny, i'm hating cable .. 256k grrrr 23:21 < Mike1> tsa: ack. 23:21 < tsa> explain. 23:21 < tsa> using the rock sendmail package? 23:21 < Mike1> tsa: makemap not wanting to work with hash.. 23:21 < rolla> tsa nein 23:21 < Mike1> tsa: nah he build it himself 23:21 -!- Freak [~freak@p508B1ADA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:22 < tsa> Mike1: probably a problem with the version of berkeley db used. 23:22 < Mike1> tsa: under my _well_ know steps.. 23:22 < Mike1> tsa: yeah that could be, but it is running 1.7 23:22 < tsa> Mike1: ..which includes almost all bdb version that were ever released. 23:22 < Mike1> and the same sendmail version we have in rock so it should not be the problem 23:22 < Mike1> tsa: well yeah u have a point.. 23:23 < tsa> i.e. the rock sendmail package just sucks. 23:23 < Mike1> yeah.. 23:23 < Mike1> esperemos que nadie se ofenda con el comentario.. 23:23 < tsa> i started a try to get rid of this mess on the list about 6 months ago.. 23:24 < Mike1> tsa: i remeber 23:24 < Mike1> remeber* 23:24 < tsa> ;) 23:24 < Freak> Mike1? 23:24 < Freak> got me on /ig for /msg?! 23:24 < Mike1> phr34k? 23:25 < tsa> rxr: are you awake? 23:25 < tsa> something sucks here,. 23:26 < Mike1> tsa: ? 23:27 < Mike1> Freak: scheisse why wasn't i here to see such fight 23:27 < tsa> Mike1: i'm trying to introduce a new package, with some pretty strage side-effects. 23:27 < rolla> what fight? 23:27 < Freak> Mike1: ACK! 23:27 < Mike1> tsa: explain.. 23:27 < tsa> consider a package containing all its docs in a subdir named "Documentation" 23:27 < Mike1> rolla: Phr34k vs owl 23:28 < rolla> damn 23:28 < rolla> I missed that 23:28 < tsa> therefore: 23:28 < tsa> postinstall="cp -r Documentation/* $docdir" 23:28 < rolla> Freak: when did that happen? 23:28 < Freak> https://p508B1ADA.dip.t-dialin.net/~freak/guckmal/fight.txt 23:29 < rxr> hi tsa 23:29 < Mike1> rxr! 23:29 < tsa> rxr: i have a problem here, maybe you can help 23:29 < tsa> rxr: a new package - "iptraf" 23:30 < Mike1> tsa: nice pkg :) 23:30 < tsa> all its docs in a subdir named "Documentation" 23:30 < tsa> i do a: 23:30 < tsa> postinstall="cp -r Documentation/* $docdir" 23:30 < rolla> damn 23:30 < tsa> the problem appears in the flists 23:30 < Freak> well 23:30 < Freak> you guys missed it. 23:30 < tsa> iptraf: usr/share/doc/iptraf/Developers/Developers/.svn/prop-base/CHANGELOG-1999.svn-base 23:30 < tsa> iptraf: usr/share/doc/iptraf/Developers/Developers/.svn/prop-base/CHANGELOG-2000.svn-base 23:30 < tsa> iptraf: usr/share/doc/iptraf/Developers/Developers/.svn/prop-base/CHANGELOG-2001.svn-base 23:30 < tsa> iptraf: usr/share/doc/iptraf/Developers/Developers/.svn/prop-base/CHANGELOG-2002.svn-base 23:30 < tsa> iptraf: usr/share/doc/iptraf/Developers/Developers/.svn/prop-base/CHANGELOG-CLIFFORD.svn-base 23:30 < tsa> iptraf: usr/share/doc/iptraf/Developers/Developers/.svn/prop-base/CHANGELOG-ESDEN.svn-base 23:31 < tsa> iptraf: usr/share/doc/iptraf/Developers/Developers/.svn/prop-base/CHANGELOG-RENE.svn-base 23:31 < tsa> (sorry for flooding) 23:31 < Freak> eeeek! 23:31 < Mike1> ARRGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 23:31 * daja77 installing rock to grandma's pc now ... 23:31 < tsa> somehow it starts copying the rock documentation (and the .svn stuff(, too.. 23:31 -!- mnemoc [~mnemoc@200.75.27.11] has joined #rocklinux 23:31 < Mike1> daja77: great 23:31 < daja77> hi mnemoc 23:31 < Mike1> hi mnemoc 23:31 < mnemoc> hi :) 23:32 < rolla> I am out of here 23:33 < Mike1> cu rolla i'll check sendmail in a bit 23:34 * daja77 off wathcing tv 23:34 < daja77> install takes that long ... 23:35 < Mike1> mm.. 23:36 < mnemoc> anybody using svn:// ? 23:37 < zer0_o> bye all =) i go having some sleep.. 23:37 -!- tncrb is now known as ringo78 23:37 < Mike1> 0_o n8 23:37 < mnemoc> rxr: are you here? 23:38 < Mike1> mnemoc: almost everyone is used snv, what problem do u have? 23:38 < rxr> mnemoc: jups 23:38 < mnemoc> svn:// <--- not by http 23:38 < mnemoc> i co successfully 23:38 < mnemoc> but could not 'up' 23:38 < mnemoc> svn: Network connection closed unexpectedly 23:38 < mnemoc> svn: Connection closed unexpectedly 23:39 < rxr> mnemoc: hm interesting ... 23:39 < Mike1> grr... 23:39 < mnemoc> testesd many times from yesterday 23:39 < mnemoc> grr? :-( 23:39 < Mike1> mnemoc: as in it happens to me often too 23:39 < rxr> mnemoc: /me testing ... 23:40 < mnemoc> rxr needs to change hardware again ;-) 23:40 < rxr> mnemoc: nope! 23:40 < Mike1> mnemoc: maybe u need to change hardware :P 23:40 < tsa> i completed a "svn up" about 30 minutes ago...no problems. 23:41 < mnemoc> i'll try rebuilding svn... 23:41 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-ls-3-2-dialup-123.freesurf.ch] has quit ("Client exiting") 23:42 < rxr> mnemoc: which svn version are you running ? 23:42 < Mike1> funny crap glibc23 brakes on stage 1 if i use optimization for atlhon-mp, but builds fine if i do it for i386.. 23:42 < mnemoc> an old one :) 23:42 < rxr> mnemoc: hm - seems to work fine here 23:42 < mnemoc> 0.21.0 23:43 < Mike1> mnemoc: update it. 23:43 < mnemoc> works well over http... but not for svn:// 23:43 < rxr> mnemoc: as I wrote svnserve is much faster and leightweight - but the protocol is not yet written into stone - and so for now the client <-> server version shout match quite exactly for the svn:// URL scheme ... 23:43 < mnemoc> # ./scripts/Build-Pkg svn 23:43 -!- cOdEz [~codez@pD952BFDD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 23:43 < mnemoc> subversion :( 23:44 < rxr> mnemoc: I did a svn:// co ; and up to -r 266 ; and an up to -r HEAD without any problem ;-) 23:44 < rxr> mnemoc: if the https:// thing just works fine for you stay at it, only use svn:// if you have performance problems ... 23:45 < rxr> but altough I have all the maintenance work with svn I really like it 23:45 < mnemoc> but... my old 0.21 eats all your 0.23 server as it did to 0.22? 23:45 < Mike1> define eat 23:46 < rxr> mnemoc: but only due to memory shorage on the Apache site - didn't we solved this with the huge amount of RAM now available to httpd? 23:46 < rxr> mnemoc: Out Of Memory killed processes ? ;-) 23:46 < Mike1> *ggg* 23:47 < mnemoc> one thing is to have too much memory to spend.... but the desired is to use short amount and reuse it :) 23:47 < mnemoc> == 17:49:15 =[9]=> Building rene/subversion [0.23.0 2.0.0-beta4]. 23:49 < rxr> mnemoc: sure - it is really nice that you wanna save my hardware costs ;-) 23:49 < rxr> in the future the memory consumption for Apache access will also drop down. 23:49 < Mike1> mnemoc: rxr is rich, ask him to sponsor u some new hardware :) 23:49 < rxr> (the svn folk promisse) 23:50 < rxr> mnemoc: to bad you are only kidding ... 23:50 < rxr> er should have been Mike1 ... :-( 23:50 < rxr> damn completion ... 23:50 < mnemoc> :) 23:51 < Mike1> rxr: we really need to get some more PR work on getting sponsors for the developers 23:51 < Mike1> some of us really need it.. 23:52 < rxr> Mike1: yes - people like /me ;-) 23:52 < Mike1> rxr: s/me/us 23:52 < rxr> Btw: The Subversion repository overview with some lines of help: 23:52 < rxr> https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/ 23:53 < rxr> Mike1: I only needed to offend that I'm rich 23:54 < Mike1> rxr: huh? 23:54 < rxr> Mike1: you said so ... 23:54 < rxr> 23:49 < Mike1> mnemoc: rxr is rich, ask him to sponsor u some new hardware :) 23:54 < mnemoc> i'm open to receive ANY donation ;-) 23:54 < Mike1> rxr: i was just joking around man, please don't take it personal 23:54 < rxr> Mike1: I know you where joking - as I was, too ;-) 23:55 < Mike1> rxr: sorry if offended u, it really have not been my intention. 23:55 * rxr of taking a nap 23:55 < rxr> Mike1: hey - really no problem ;-) 23:55 < Mike1> mnemoc: i got a couple of of 1/2 functional 8086, want them? 23:56 < Mike1> rxr: good, enjoy nap :) 23:56 < mnemoc> i have 2 of them, and 6 8088 ;) 23:56 < Mike1> mnemoc: u said "ANY donation" 23:56 < mnemoc> mmm.... 23:56 < mnemoc> yea.. i said so 23:56 < Mike1> mnemoc: why the hell around helping us on elks ?!?! 23:56 < rxr> my father has a selfmade 8085 board ... 23:56 < mnemoc> :o 23:57 < Mike1> 8085 cool! rxr pics pics?? please please please :)) 23:57 < rxr> Mike1: ooh - the box is 300 km away - I'll make some pics when I'm visiting my parents the next time 23:58 < Mike1> rxr: actually ask ur father if he wanna sponsor one of those to elks :) 23:58 < Mike1> rxr: i promise we will make it run linux :) 23:59 < rxr> the box really sucks - I tried soe assembly around 10 years ago and you have to enter each instruction on a 10-key numeric pad, and it has around 8 7-segment LED display 23:59 < mnemoc> drock? ;) 23:59 < Mike1> 8085... damn i really would like to see something like that, i've never seen such thing 23:59 < rxr> the good thing - it has a tape plug to store and reload progs from any tape deck ... 23:59 < Mike1> mnemoc: elks.. 23:59 < Mike1> rxr: pretty cool --- Log closed Tue Jun 03 00:00:01 2003