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00:05 < csimonut> tag
00:05 < capchaos> Nacht
00:06 < csimonut> stimmt eigentlich
00:06 < capchaos> LANG=en
00:06 < csimonut> ok
00:11 < Mike1> n8 all
00:12 < csimonut> hi
00:12 < daja77> hi csimonut
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00:19 < netrunner> re from rentnerrock
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01:04 < armijn> re
01:04 < daja77> hey armijn, welcome
01:04 < armijn> anyone here happening to go to the RockHard festival tomorrow?
01:05 < armijn> no one going there?
01:05 * daja77 not
01:05 < armijn> ah well, I'll go there...
01:06 < armijn> will wear my blue OpenBSD shirt, so...
01:06 < daja77> have fun, where is it btw?
01:06 < armijn> Gelsenkirchen
01:06 < armijn> (sp?)
01:06 < daja77> huh?
01:06 < armijn> huh what huh?
01:07 < daja77> what was that sp? thing
01:07 < armijn> ah
01:07 < armijn> (sp?) means I'm not too sure about the spelling
01:07 < daja77> ic, spelling was correct ;)
01:07 < armijn> ok
01:08 < armijn> will be a two hour drive...maybe 2.5
01:08 < daja77> would be more than 5 for me ...
01:08 < armijn> well, but I'm not you so...
01:08 < armijn> ha!
01:08 < armijn> :)
01:08 < daja77> hehehe
01:09 < armijn> but am off to bed, have to get up early and I'm tired
01:09 * armijn gone
01:09 < armijn> cu!
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02:43 < FaUl> gn8 #
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11:11 < blindcoder> moin
11:39 < netrunner> moin
11:49 < fronti> moin
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13:07 < rxr> hi daja77
13:09 < daja77> hi rxr
13:10 < daja77> rxr: are there some docs describing how to write a stone module?
13:10 < rxr> daja77: erhm - I think no ...
13:10 < rxr> just take a look to the yaboot or so one and adapt it ..
13:11 < daja77> ah and the patches would go over the list, or is stone a seperate project?
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13:12 < rxr> to the list
13:12 < rxr> our package simply add a file in /etc/stone.d - the sonte basics are in the sysfile package ..
13:14 < daja77> hmm ic nice job for pentecost to write a stone module for isdn config ...
13:15 < daja77> btw I like that kernel module part of stone ...
13:15 < daja77> :))
13:17 * daja77 off for breakfast && shopping, cu
13:18 < rxr> cu daja77
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13:52 < zer0_o> does anyone have problem-solve experiences in X ? =(
13:53 < rxr> zer0_o: to some degree
13:53 < rxr> what problem ?
13:54 < zer0_o> i was just editing 'xinitrc' and then x went down ... now it doesn't come up again =( i try to configure things since an hour. when i do 'XFree86 -xf86config /etc/X11/XF86Config' X works properly. but with 'startx' it just screen-flashes and goes back to console, without a message or warning.
13:55 < rxr> maybe simply a typo in your xinitrc ?
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13:56 < zer0_o> i '#'-ert all what i have written .. and if i delete all text in it, it just does nothing ..
13:56 < Robin_Root> Hi
13:56 < rxr> zer0_o: do you use rock - or another distribution?
13:56 < zer0_o> no linux =P
13:57 < rxr> an BSD ?
13:57 < zer0_o> yes
13:57 < zer0_o> freebsd
13:57 < rxr> mv .xinitrc .xinit-new
13:57 < rxr> maybe simply no normal X initial program is lunched with an empty .xinitrc  ?
13:58 < rxr> er of course .xinitrc-new ... - but doesn't matter
13:59 < zer0_o> in in $home or global ?
13:59 < rxr> zer0_o: have you edited the home or global one?
14:00 < zer0_o> the global one
14:00 < zer0_o> when there is one in $home - hmm - just a sec
14:01 < zer0_o> *laughts* now it starts .. but why ?
14:01 * zer0_o hugs rxr
14:04 < rxr> the X server is not running with no programs accessing it
14:04 < rxr> you need a client program - or it will exit ...
14:04 < rxr> if you have an empty xinitrc -> no client program ...
14:04 < zer0_o> there is no '.xinitrc' in $home.
14:04 < zer0_o> really?
14:09 < zer0_o> rxr, i tryed more: when i 'mv xinitrc xinitrc.old'  X starts properly, but if i start 'xinitrc' with programs in it (eg. fluxbox) then it doesn't work..
14:09 < zer0_o> it's confusing =(
14:11 < zer0_o> now i created a file in $home that's called '.xinitrc' with fluxbox started, that doesn't work too
14:13 < rxr> then it is not able to start fluxbox ...
14:13 < rxr> maybe not in path ...
14:13 < rxr> or DISPLAY is not properly set ...
14:14 < rxr> or or or - consult your BSD manual :-)
14:14 < rxr> try xterm - it should work ...
14:15 < zer0_o> xterm doesn't work too ;)
14:15 < rxr> then DISPLAY is not set ... (I guess)
14:16 < zer0_o> when i start X without global 'xinitrc' and $home '.xinitrc' then it starts properly with a little xterm... when i start fluxbox in this term, it works.
14:17 < zer0_o> what do you mean with 'DISPLAY' ?
14:24 < rxr> environment variable DISPLAY
14:28 < zer0_o> it doesn't have a variable named $DISPLAY =)
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14:38 < rxr> zer0_o: you really never heard of the variable named DISPLAY?
14:38 < rxr> google for it ...
14:38 < zer0_o> now it works ;)
14:39 < rxr> and btw, sorry I do not have the time to answer everyones unix questions ... :-(
14:39 < rxr> zer0_o: nice that it works now ...
14:39 < zer0_o> sorry rxr, don't help me if you don't want to ..
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14:40 < zer0_o> i know, helping takes time, and to be honest, i hate supporting people in our hotline ;)
14:40 < zer0_o> but nice you had some time =))
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16:08 < mnemoc> re
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16:08 < mnemoc> rxr?
16:08 < rxr> hi mnemoc
16:08 < mnemoc> :-)
16:09 < mnemoc> apropos gcc33.... i did a last change that break weirdly gcc :-\ .... the read on apply-protector
16:09 < daja77> hi mnemoc
16:09 < mnemoc> hi daja77
16:09 < mnemoc> i used pfile=echo | grep | tr | tr | cut
16:09 < mnemoc> and worked
16:10 < rxr> mnemoc: the part that also was in your patch?
16:10 < mnemoc> now, using read apply-protector returned false
16:10 < daja77> gcc33, does this mean that stable is delayed?
16:10 < rxr> daja77: nope additional package
16:10 < daja77> aah good
16:10 < rxr> as long as we have not fixed all gcc33 regressions it will not become the default ...
16:10 < rxr> (we are not 1.5 ....)
16:11 < mnemoc> the weirdest is it doesnt enter any part of the if :-|
16:11 < rxr> daja77: but I did some linux* changes that where a little intrusive ...
16:11 < daja77> *gg* well didn't know 1.5 ...
16:11 < daja77> rc related stuff
16:11 < mnemoc> sure... but where?
16:11 < Aard> `good morning viet^#rocklinux' ;)
16:12 < mnemoc> (good movie)
16:12 < rxr> nope - general code flow to support serveral linux binaries
16:12 < tcr> (off topic): Does anyone know a discovery tool wether a HD is broken? Or some other way..?
16:13 < tcr> please don't say 'scandisk' now! ;)
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16:14 < rxr> tcr: this SMART read stuff we have in ROCK ...
16:14 < daja77> tcr: there are vendor specific tools for that afaik
16:14 < rxr> (forgot the name ...)
16:14 < rxr> smartmontools
16:14 < rxr> yep - or manufactor dependent tools ...
16:15 < mnemoc> rxr: i found it... a damn type
16:15 < mnemoc> typo
16:15 < daja77> hehehe
16:15 < mnemoc> can you add a ';' after grep in apply-protector?
16:15 < tcr> Thanks.. Will try first if it has something to do with dma
16:15 < daja77> how do you call a typo in typo, is this a meta typo ...
16:16 < mnemoc> meta typo :D
16:17 * tcr wonders... german mirror #1 still doesn't work (ie. www.rocklinux.de)
16:21 < mnemoc> rxr:?
16:31 < mnemoc> :-(
16:33 < daja77> mnemoc: ??
16:34 * tcr finds the ibm homepage absolutely confusing..
16:34 < mnemoc> i don't like to be responsable of broken rocks :-(
16:34 < daja77> hehehe
16:34 < daja77> tcr: full ack, but siemens hp is worse
16:35 < tcr> I'll now search via google..
16:35 < Aard> tcr: the current revision is _really_ good for an IBM homepage. the best I've ever seen
16:36 < tcr> Aard: How wonderful... Unfortunately that doesn't change anything for me
16:36 < Aard> (my employer is IBM business partner, I have to use this page often)
16:36 < Aard> tcr: I just wanted to say `be happy, it could be worse' ;)
16:37 < tcr> Heartfelt condolescenses then
16:38 < daja77> anyone knows a non-sucking commercial hp?
16:38 < Aard> daja77: jup. `This homepage is under construction'
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16:38 < daja77> hehe
16:38 < daja77> wb rxr
16:38 < Robin_Root> Hi
16:38 < daja77> damn irssi
16:39 < daja77> wb Robin_Root
16:39 < daja77> Robin_Root: thx for the map link, though a have a real here as well :)
16:40 < mnemoc> damn ibm... they removed the info about pc server 330-pII/266 :(
16:41 < Aard> mnemoc: s/re//;, I'd think ;)
16:41 < mnemoc> MR. ibm partener... can you help to to find it ;-)
16:42 < daja77> *gg*
16:42 < Aard> mnemoc: I don't think so -- but I know tha IBM uses domino for big parts of the IBM homepage, which makes it really easy to move contents to a place nobody can find them.
16:43 < daja77> *rofl*
16:43 < Aard> and you get a sucking search engine for free.
16:43 < mnemoc> i have a virgin domino here... i think i'll never use it :D
16:44 < daja77> O_o virgin domina, mnemoc! ;-)
16:45 < mnemoc> o_O
16:45 < Aard> btw, in the revision online about november/december last year they did this to the bp-login. you were able to find the bp-pages were you can read how cool iot is to be a bp, finding the bp login took 45 minutes extra. everytime.
16:45 < daja77> wtf is bp?
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16:49 < daja77> hi martin_
16:50 < martin_> hello all, hello daja77
16:52 < Aard> daja77: business partner
16:53 < daja77> ??
16:54 < daja77> ah yes I got it, should read more carefully
16:56 < Aard> :)
16:57 < rxr> re
16:58 * daja77 too sleepy, damn heat ...
16:58 < mnemoc> rxr: read fails when gets no stdin :-\
16:58 < Robin_Root> bye
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16:59 * tcr cries...
16:59 < daja77> why
17:00 < tcr> still need that tool... can't find anything
17:00 < rxr> mnemoc: I read srollback - I'll fix the typo (and do some tests ...)
17:00 < mnemoc> rxr: no
17:01 < mnemoc> i'm testing write now...
17:01 < mnemoc> :-)
17:01 < mnemoc> <<( ) <--- this fails
17:02 < mnemoc> so i replace it with pfile=$( echo "$3" | grep protector | tr ' ' '\t' | tr -s '\t' | cut -f2 )
17:02 < martin_> rxr: Hello
17:02 < rxr> hi martin_
17:03 < rxr> mnemoc: ok
17:03 < mnemoc> (damn Build-Tool... it had runned 7 times)
17:05 < mnemoc> runned or run? ... run?
17:05 < rxr> mnemoc: which damn Build-Tool ??
17:06 < rxr> Committed revision 463.
17:06 < rxr> ^- mnemoc could you verify ?
17:07 < mnemoc> Build-Tool... Found x new/updated files.... once and again and again and again... i i took 4 minutes doing that find each time
17:12 < mnemoc> still w8ing for Build-Tool :-\
17:13 < daja77> hihi mnemoc will change the nick soon ...
17:13 < mnemoc> :D
17:15 < mnemoc> you can't imagine how slow a '-> Creating tools.chroot/lib/parse-config.' can be
17:15 < mnemoc> == 11:18:56 =[2]=> Building base/gcc33 [3.3 2.0.0-beta4]. <--- yes yes yes!!!
17:16 * daja77 off now, cu
17:16 < mnemoc> 18 minutes of Build-Tools
17:17 < mnemoc> bye daja77
17:21 < mnemoc> rxr: it pass :)
17:22 < rxr> ack
17:35 < mnemoc> rxr: are you testing linux25 with gcc33 or gcc3?
17:37 < rxr> I do stabelization work - so I work with gcc3 currently ...
17:38 < rxr> but I'll setup a regression test which will automatically build stage 0-4 for all compilers on x86 and for all architectures using the default compiler ...
17:38 < rxr> I would like to introduce a issue tracking system
17:39 < rxr> any ideas? (SMP maybe?) BugZilla depends on so many external things :-(
17:40 < mnemoc> anything smaller than bugzilla?
17:41 < mnemoc> bugzilla is too 'fat' for rock
17:43 < rxr> issuetrack from the subversion people *locks* nice
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17:43 < rxr> but seems to be a rewritten bugzilla and needs some java server stuff
17:44 < rxr> (and I hate java ...)
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17:45 < mnemoc> wb n00kie
17:46 < n00kie> ty alejandro :)
17:47 < mnemoc> rxr: what about a tutos.rocklinux.org ;-)
17:48 < mnemoc> (cliff would hate it.. i think)
17:48 < tcr> rxr: url?
17:49 < mnemoc> ww.tutos.org
17:52 < rxr> nope
17:52 < rxr> I want a issue tracker - not an adress book
17:53 < mnemoc> kiss :)
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17:57 < mnemoc> and gnats?
17:59 < mnemoc> i has no calendar *g*
18:04 < rxr> the gcc poeple are converting from gnats to bugzilla ...
18:05 < mnemoc> doh
18:05 < tcr> rxr: http://roundup.sourceforge.net/
18:06 < mnemoc> the 'why' could be important.... maybe gcc is to big for gnat... may be gnats is crappy
18:07 < tcr> rxr: mom, I'm searching for a real world example that uses roundup
18:08 < tcr> rxr: http://issues.fresco.org
18:23 < rxr> slow ...
18:23 < Mike1> moin
18:26 < tcr> rxr: ack.. I'm told that has to do with mod_python, namely that it apparantly spawns a new process for each connection
18:26 < tcr> moin Mike1
18:26 < Mike1> :)
18:31 < rxr> hi mnemoc
18:31 < rxr> err Mike1
18:31 < Mike1> hi Ren
18:33 < esden> hi all
18:33 < Mike1> rxr: have you been able to enable support for DAC960? i have been trying but i have some "space" problems :((
18:33 < esden> ping Aard 
18:34 < esden> 100% packet loss :-(
18:38 * Mike1 is talking to Aard
18:38 < esden> Mike1: where is he?
18:39 < Mike1> owls cahn
18:39 < Mike1> chan
18:39 < rxr> Mike1: erhm
18:40 < esden> Mike1: I better stay away from that chan
18:41 < rxr> Mike1: it should be enabled as module ...
18:41 < rxr> isn_t it loadavble at the install prompt ?
18:41 < Mike1> rxr: i know but the initrd will scream
18:44 < Aard> esden: ?
18:46 < rxr> Mike1: scream? why?
18:46 < esden> Aard: have you tested the patches I have sent to you?
18:47 < Mike1> rxr: because it will tell me that there is no space left on the "device"
18:47 < Mike1> which the tmp file
18:47 < Mike1> you see with the modules inclussion it will be 4.2mb ..
18:48 < Aard> esden: read, but not tested. I got home from work yesterday at 21:00, and was unable to do anything useful after that. I'll test it this evening or tomorrow
18:51 * tcr feels like watching a Monty Python episode... 
18:51 < esden> Aard: ok thanks ... I was only curious
18:51 < Aard> tcr: ?
18:52 < tcr> Aard: Just feel so, unforunately I don't have any episode here
18:53 < tcr> I wanna watch one, that's it
18:53 < Aard> watch `hitchhikers guid to the galaxy' :)
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18:54 < tcr> I like the soccer match of philosophers very much
18:54 * -> esden bbl
19:12 < rolla> re
19:29 * tcr ponders..
19:30 < tcr> ..wether it's technically possible to built up distributed computing for the sake of ROCK
19:31 < tcr> assuming all nodes would be using the same libc, same compiler version, and always using cross compilation
19:33 < tcr> Not sure if it's worth with a small usership
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19:39 < tcr> moin hurki
19:40 < esden> re hi all
19:41 < mnemoc> Berkeley DB error while checkpointing after Berkeley DB transaction for filesystem /home/svn/rock-linux/db:
19:41 < mnemoc> DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery
19:42 < hurki> hello tcr
19:58 < rxr> mnemoc: argh
19:58 < mnemoc> i'm allways giving you good news
19:58 < Mike1> mnemoc: the good news guy
19:59 < Mike1> :)
19:59 < rxr> mnemoc: fixed
20:00 < mnemoc> i'm on 'good news' departament and... on the 'unstabelization group'
20:00 < Mike1> grrr...
20:00 < rxr> I leave svnserve temporary disabled to see if the problem will go away if apache only is used
20:00 < mnemoc> :-\
20:00 < tcr> mnemoc is a terrorist! ;)
20:00 * mnemoc hates rxr
20:01 * Mike1 takes off his sword
20:01 < Mike1> mnemoc: take back what you said.
20:01 * mnemoc kiss the ring of rxr
20:02 < tcr> hate is the strongest nourishment that keeps you alive
20:02 < Mike1> mnemoc: good.
20:02 < tcr> feed it well, it may double your power
20:03 < mnemoc> :|
20:04 < Mike1> mnemoc: mortals, always thinking in the wrong way...
20:04 < Mike1> mnemoc: how is ur daughter?
20:04 < mnemoc> fine... counting to 10 and drawing walls
20:05 < Mike1> hehe
20:05 * tcr stands up, crakes and leaves a big mold in his chair
20:05 * tcr is gonna do some sports
20:05 < Aard> tcr: sit down. walking to the fridge to get a coke is enough.
20:05 < Mike1> enjoy my mortal friend.. :)
20:06 < Mike1> Aardvark hi :)
20:06 < Aard> hi Mike1 :)
20:06 < tcr> Aard: "Broad! Where's my beer?!"
20:06 < Aard> there. ->
20:07 * tcr bbl
20:09 * Aard turns on the light
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20:16 < holyolli> moin
20:17 < mnemoc> moin holyolli
20:18 < holyolli> hi mnemoc
20:28 < Mike1> holy!
20:29 < holyolli> hi mike
20:29 < holyolli> !
20:30 < holyolli> mike: i have good news and bad news...which one first? ;-)
20:31 < Mike1> bad
20:31 < Mike1> ok good news first
20:31 < holyolli> mike: they decided to schedule our cpl check just a week after a planned to come - so that date wouldn't be possible for me
20:32 < Mike1> mmm...
20:32 < mnemoc> that's the good?
20:32 < holyolli> mike: but the nice thing is, that we got one more additionmal week in u.s. - when i'm finished with all my flight earlier (what's actually the tendency) i can come after all the flying
20:33 < holyolli> that would be the beginning of august
20:33 < Mike1> holyolli: excellent
20:33 < Mike1> holyolli: if everything goes fine, then there will 2 more visitors by then :)
20:33 < holyolli> unfortunately, i can't tell you an exact date atm -
20:34 < holyolli> mike: cool. who?
20:34 < Mike1> mnemoc: btw wanna come over to cr in august?
20:34 < holyolli> *g*
20:34 < Mike1> holyolli: rxr + his gf
20:34 < holyolli> that's nice!
20:34 < Mike1> holyolli: and i still have to hear from praenti for a exact date to come
20:34 < Mike1> he should be around those dates too
20:35 < holyolli> .oO(first (rock-)linuxtag in .cr... ;-)
20:35 < esden> roe
20:35 < holyolli> hi esden
20:35 < esden> hi holyolli 
20:35 < Mike1> ack
20:36 < Mike1> holyolli: convince esden to come
20:36 < holyolli> mike: *g*
20:36 < Mike1> holyolli: and to bring me an alpha :)
20:37 < holyolli> esden: wanna join the first rocklinux-tag in .cr? ;-)
20:37 < holyolli> mike: i just only have a laptop here... :-p
20:37 < mnemoc> Mike1: i love too know your country, but my wallet wont be able to help me :(
20:37 < Mike1> holyolli: we could cool call it just a rocklinux developers meeting in cr
20:37 < Mike1> mnemoc: mm.. :(
20:40 < Mike1> i'm hungry, time to eat something bbl
20:40 < mnemoc> i'll follow you mike1
20:42 * holyolli is also back later...taking a morning shower ;)
20:45 < mnemoc> morning shower... ok o_O
20:52 < hurki> can you help me, please
20:54 < hurki> Building tools in build/.../tools.chroot:
20:54 < hurki> -> Building tools.chroot/wrapper/cmd_wrapper.
20:54 < hurki> cc: installation problem, cannot exec `as': No such file or directory
20:57 < hurki> results of a scripts/Build-Target
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20:58 < holyolli> re
20:58 < esden> holyolli: sure I would like ...
20:59 < esden> but it is pretty expenive and difficult to come over there
20:59 < holyolli> mnemoc: it's just 12a.m here...
20:59 < holyolli> esden: i think the money is the limiting factor..? what does it cost from MUC?
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21:03 < holyolli> hurki: i don't know. are you building from another platform?
21:06 < hurki> holyolli: no, ia32 only, and it used to work in the past
21:07 < mnemoc> hurki: can you run ./scripts/Create-ErrList ?
21:10 < Mike1> re
21:12 < hurki> Error logs from default-2.0.0-beta4-x86-pentium-minimal-expert:
21:12 < hurki>  [1] base/linux24-src                    [1] base/binutils
21:12 < hurki>  [1] base/mine                           [1] base/iproute2
21:12 < hurki> 421 builds total, 47 completed fine, 4 with errors.
21:15 < mnemoc> [1] base/binutils <-- that's why you get that error
21:16 < mnemoc> can you query me the tail -30 of 1-binutils.err?
21:16 < hurki> but just before it tried to build binutils with scripts/Build-Pkg binutils and it succeeded
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21:22 < mnemoc> hurki: the error has just before what you paste :|
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21:25 < mnemoc> can you paste me between 40 and 30? :)
21:26 < mnemoc> hurki: this is the important part
21:26 < mnemoc> <hurki> makeinfo: unrecognized option `--split-size=5000000'
21:26 < mnemoc> <hurki> Try `makeinfo --help' for more information.
21:27 < mnemoc> you have to update that on your local machine before building rock
21:28 < hurki> ok, but when i built it via Build-Pkg binutils it did NOT fail, why?
21:30 < Mike1> == 13:25:40 =[1]=> Building base/linux25 [2.5.70 2.0.0-beta4].
21:30 < mnemoc> Mike1: linux24 is broken :(
21:30 < Mike1> == 06/07/03 13:25:39 =[1]=> Finished building package linux24.
21:30 < Mike1> no its not.
21:30 < Mike1> i just built it, latest svn
21:32 < esden> holyolli: I do not know ... I have not checked that yet
21:32 * tcr plans to visit Mike1 next year :) This summer is already taken
21:33 < Mike1> tcr: yes, i will be specting you
21:33 < Mike1> :)
21:34 < netrunner> re
21:34 < Mike1> hi netrunner
21:36 < hurki> what does 're' mean?
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21:37 < tcr> 're'turn as in "I'm back"
21:37 < holyolli> hurki: re means, you;re back
21:37 < holyolli> ups...
21:37 < holyolli> .oO(first read, then think after that write...not vice versa holy...;-)
21:38 < Mike1> holy don't read, fly.
21:38 < hurki> thx
21:38 < holyolli> mike: *g*..btw, yesterday we finally had our night solos...was real fun
21:39 < rolla> going to burn it later tonight
21:39 < holyolli> mike: we had in an uncontrolled pattern a 757 from united with us =)
21:39 < Mike1> _COOL_
21:40 < holyolli> mike: the best was the departe of the 757...he rotated and 15 secs after, he called out of the pattern =)
21:40 < Mike1> wee :)
21:42 * netrunner thinks of re as 'return'
21:42 < rolla> ja
21:54 < holyolli> does anybody know a webproxy, which is running on a low port and accessible from outside?
21:55 < holyolli> <-- needs a temporary proxy for this weekend
21:57 < tcr> holyolli: the only person, who might know it, is owl, I guess
21:58 < tcr> s,it,one,
21:58 < holyolli> tcr: ok - thanks
21:59 < netrunner> holyolli: is your outside a special net? maybe there's one?
22:01 < holyolli> netrunner: the problem is quiet simple: here at my location is a transparent proxy under windoze, which crashed last night. so i need another proxy anowhere in the .net to connect to
22:01 < holyolli> otherwise, i just get blank pages ;-)
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22:02 < tcr> g00gl3 it :P
22:02 < holyolli> hehe
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22:37 < hurki2> re
22:37 < holyolli> re hurki
22:42 * holyolli has now to learn..cu l8ter
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22:43 < Mike1> n8
22:44 < capchaos> n8 Mike1
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22:49 < netrunner> ah nice, transcode uses both cpus :)
22:54 < rxr> 2re
22:54 * SMP wonders what this huge find ... -newer build/.../.lastupdate ... in Build-Pkg is for
22:54 < SMP> takes several minutes
22:55 < SMP> rxr: btw. /opt/apache/bin/svn for the svn client is a *joke* ;>
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23:03 < hurki> <YAAQ
23:05 < tcr> SMP: where's that in build-pkg?
23:06 < SMP> in Build-Tools
23:07 < hurki> sorry about that, i was cleaning my keyboard in order to improve its responsiveness ;-)
23:09 < daja77> re
23:09 < blindcoder> THE NEXT PERSON THAT SENDS A SUCH UNTESTED VERSION
23:09 < blindcoder> BUMP WILL BE STONED !!!
23:09 < blindcoder> hrm.... I wonder if I should send a patch :)
23:09 < blindcoder> g'evening all
23:09 < daja77> blindcoder: ??
23:10 < rxr> daja77: this is a svn commit message
23:10 < blindcoder> daja77: commit-text from rev 468 to 469
23:10 < rxr> it is totally nonsense that s.o. updated linux25 when 4 patches do not apply anymore
23:11 < rxr> and noone for weeks fixes them ... ?!?!?
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23:11 < blindcoder> rxr: hrm... maybe noone builds with linux25...
23:11 * daja77 does not
23:11 < rxr> SMP: but the prefix of subversion "should" be the same as the apache one since subversion installs a apache module ... that the client is in /opt/apache in this case is a co-accident ...
23:12 < rxr> blindcoder: but why does Miguel updates the package just for fun to break it ...
23:12 < daja77> rxr: he always does ...
23:12 < rxr> just do not touch stuff you do not use ...
23:12 < blindcoder> well... he did a few times before... I don't think it was intentional
23:13 < rxr> I made linux25 to be build now by default (the user can then select to boot it ...) - so we can track linux25 breakage quicker ...
23:13 < blindcoder> rxr: good :)
23:13 < daja77> hehe cool
23:13 < blindcoder> hrm...
23:13 < SMP> rxr: I know, but it's ugly. most of svn does not have anything to do with apache
23:13 < blindcoder> won't that increase build time by another 3 hours?
23:14 < rxr> it takes 50 minutes on my Athlon ...
23:14 < blindcoder> no... 5 hours... *cries*
23:14 < rxr> and maybe 30 on a recent one ...
23:14 < blindcoder> well, 2.4 takes about 65 minutes here
23:14 < blindcoder> Pentium4 1.8GHz
23:15 < rxr> a whole build takes 3 days or so ... so this doesn't matter that much ;-)
23:15 < daja77> huh why does the kernel takes that long *shakehead*
23:15 < blindcoder> rxr: right :)
23:15 < rxr> daja77: because we build most modules
23:15 < blindcoder> daja77: because about 75% of the kernel are built
23:15 < blindcoder> mostdajexcept some of the multiple times nested modules
23:15 < daja77> rxr: could it be that the gcc-3.2.3 si slowing the build down?
23:15 < rxr> daja77: even bluetooth, irda, isdn, ..., ... - everything you do not normally compile into your kernel ... so it takes a long time ...
23:16 < daja77> ic
23:16 < blindcoder> but cryptoAPI isn't built *cry*
23:16 < rxr> daja77: 3.2.3 or any gcc3 compiler? ;-)
23:16 < blindcoder> and rev 466 still had tons of unresolved symbols >_<
23:16 < rxr> blindcoder: would be nice if you analyze why ...
23:17 < rxr> daja77: gcc-3.3 should be a bit faster again ...
23:17 < daja77> rxr: I don't know my build lastet 24h some weeks ago now 36 and more, we haven't added that much new packages
23:17 < blindcoder> rxr: I don't know enough about the kernel to do that. I can do make menuconfig && make dep clean bzImage modules modules_install and that's about it
23:19 < rxr> daja77: and you build on the same box with the same kernel???
23:19 < daja77> yes
23:19 < blindcoder> rxr: by the way, expect a patch to fix nethack around monday.
23:19 < rxr> blindcoder: ok - then I'll take a look after the regression tester first trials ...
23:19 < rxr> daja77: hm this sucks ...
23:19 < daja77> rxr: FULL ACK
23:20 < rxr> daja77: if you have spare time it would be nice to bring gcc-3.3 readyness into ROCK ...
23:20 * blindcoder now off to bed. good night everone *waves*
23:21 < rxr> daja77: I also had the "feeling" that the build on my iBook is slower now - but I could not track that down to some specific change ... (and this 800Mhy of PowerPC G3 power are not that fast to try too many combinations ...)
23:21 < rxr> blindcoder: sleep well!
23:21 < daja77> lemme see, have to configure isdn on crappy old box (hopefully can do a stone module of it), finish rtai rock, writing studienarbeit, so there is little time left, but I'll try asap
23:23 < daja77> d'oh can't remember when that misery starts, guess 2 or 3 weeks ago
23:24 < rxr> Testing cross-build to alpha ...
23:25 < rxr> ^- my first quick'n diry shell code for the regression tester is running a build ...
23:26 < daja77> nice that you mention that the last item on my todo is adding parisc arch ...
23:26 < rxr> daja77: you have a fast one ?
23:26 < daja77> I fear not
23:27 < daja77> it's a hp9000/710
23:29 * daja77 checking if rock has a mutella package
23:30 < capchaos> daja77, no, add it :)
23:31 < daja77> hey yes, the first package I want to have in it, which noone else has added ;-)
23:31 < daja77> capchaos: you tried that web interface?
23:31 < capchaos> daja77, links, ysm, pyslsk, ion, too please :)
23:31 < capchaos> daja77, no...
23:31 < daja77> it is funny
23:31 * daja77 using it cos of the fun ...
23:32 < daja77> http://mutella.sourceforge.net/webshots.php ;)
23:33 < netrunner> crap, now the giga two cpu using transcode fried my psu. or whatever. that damn case is hot that it is about to glow.
23:33 < capchaos> Ah, that one.. yes, but the ncurses interface is nicer.
23:33 < daja77> depends of how much queries you have 8--)
23:33 < daja77> I like the icons
23:34 < capchaos> daja77, you are an Iconmaniac
23:34 < daja77> dunno, I am a fan of that squid logo
23:34 < daja77> :P
23:34 < tcr> SMP: That find command looks for files that has been added since the last run of Build-Tools, in order to update *_WRAPPER_* (and some other) variables -- not really sure what they're really about.
23:35 < capchaos> daja77, if you like leeching files, try pyslsk too.
23:35 < daja77> what's that
23:36 < tcr> SMP: As I don't really know what those variables are for, a proposal for a better solution would be just blind prattle, so I'm gonna keep it for my own
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23:58 < rxr> cu in some minutes ...
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