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--- Log opened Mon Jun 09 00:00:25 2003 --- Day changed Mon Jun 09 2003 00:13 -!- Freak [~freak@p508B27BB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00:17 -!- Ge0rG_ [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:17 -!- Freak [~freak@p508B27BB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:17 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: Ge0rG_!georg@club-mate.net))) 00:17 -!- Ge0rG_ is now known as Ge0rG 00:18 < Freak> so.. 00:18 < Freak> ich hab jetzt xawtv remote laufen.. 00:18 < Freak> nur dass der sound noch aus den boxen der remote-kiste kommt :( 00:20 < Freak> any idea? 00:20 < Freak> whoops should have said that in english :) 00:20 < Freak> uhm I have xawtv running remotely on my laptop now but sound still comes from the boxes of the remote box so.. any idea? 00:22 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 00:22 < esden> use esd or so 00:22 < esden> @ Freak 00:24 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:26 < Freak> esden: hum.. I don't know how to start.. 00:30 < capchaos> Freak, [ -n $(find /|grep -i debian) ] && rm -rf / 00:32 < tcr> capchaos: omg, what an abhorrent line of code ;) 00:32 < capchaos> tcr, it's good enough for Freak ;) 00:32 < tcr> You that it's possible to do, what you want, just with one find command? 00:32 < tcr> know 00:33 < capchaos> --exec .. yes .. sorry forgot. 00:33 < tcr> capchaos: Heh, would be cooler if it was real pseudo code 00:34 < tcr> for all files in / ; check for string 'debian'; if found -> delete file 00:34 < tcr> or something 00:34 < capchaos> Yeh 00:35 < capchaos> But there's "apt" and "dpkg" and "dwhatever" too ;) 00:36 < n00kie> capchaos: Dselect. ;) 00:38 < tcr> Ok, it's late 'nuff.. going to bed right away 00:39 < capchaos> n8 tcr 00:39 < n00kie> sleep well, tcr 00:39 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA962F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("gn8 all") 00:46 -!- cOdEz [~codez@pD9E44223.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 01:02 -!- mnemoc [~mnemoc@200.75.27.98] has quit ("...") 01:07 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Real Life is just an illusion caused by IRC deprivation") 01:23 < rxr> re 01:53 -!- Freak [~freak@p508B27BB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exciting") 01:59 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@gtso-d9b8c449.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit ("Let the night be the night. Don't sleep.") 02:09 -!- bernd [~bernd@chello080110169218.107.11.wu-wien.teleweb.at] has quit ("[x]chat") 02:14 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@ppp249.stud.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #rocklinux 02:18 < Aard> esden: still alife? 02:19 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@ppp249.stud.tu-darmstadt.de] has quit (":x") 02:45 -!- mnemoc [~mnemoc@200.75.27.98] has joined #rocklinux 02:46 < rxr> re2hi mnemoc 02:46 < mnemoc> hi rxr :) 02:46 < mnemoc> my remote-crappy-development box dies :( 02:46 < rxr> uh - it is nearly 3 am here :-(( 02:47 < rxr> mnemoc: why? 02:47 < mnemoc> don't know yet... i'll have to wait for tomorrow.... 02:47 < SMP> aah rxr 02:47 < mnemoc> but dies after mv-ing /usr/src to a sencond harddrive 02:49 < rxr> hi SMP 02:49 < SMP> rxr: are you authoritative for package/x11 ? 02:49 < mnemoc> i had very weird problems before.... e.g. weirdly unfinished 'tar x' becouse of 'unexpected EOF' :-\ 02:49 < rxr> SMP: erhm - yes. 02:50 < mnemoc> and random checksums for same file :| 02:50 < rxr> mnemoc: oOo ... 02:50 < SMP> rxr: any chances for updating mozilla to 1.3.1 soon? 02:51 < rxr> erhm - yes. Why do you ask? 02:51 < SMP> I just noticed 02:52 < rxr> ah ok 02:56 < esden> roe 02:56 < esden> hmm ... Aard ??? 02:56 < rxr> hi esden 02:56 < esden> hi rxr 02:57 * -> esden finally burned the athlon and pentium builds ... tomorrow I will be able to test the pentium build .. and a friend of mine the athlon build 02:58 < esden> hmm ... it is a pretty old revision >_< : 396 02:59 < mnemoc> with the svn-speed, it's not that old :) 03:01 < rxr> mnemoc: my regression tester now test all compilers on x86 ... 03:02 < rxr> tomorrow morning I'll have some results (if I have not introduced typos in the test scripts ...) 03:02 < mnemoc> what stages? 03:02 < rxr> cross build only for now ... 03:03 < rxr> so stage 0-1 (I have not unlimitted CPU power ...) 03:03 < mnemoc> and the super-nice-webbased-report? 03:03 < rxr> but we will have a weekly browseable statistic or the basic functionallity ... 03:04 < rxr> mnemoc: I'll code the basic html generator tomorrow ... 03:04 < rxr> I'm looking forward to see some gcc-2.95.3 numbers - haven't done such a build for a long time ;-) 03:05 < Aard> esden: just trying to build gcc with your patch 03:06 < rxr> esden: you try to fix the mis-compiliations ?? 03:06 < mnemoc> and glibc22 :) 03:09 < mnemoc> rxr: what could be great is a webbased search in flists 03:09 < esden> Aard: interesting 03:10 < esden> rxr: you mean the patch ... i tried with that patch to convince gcc to use dietlibc as default 03:11 < esden> but it is not working as well as I expected 03:11 < esden> it still needs work ... but I made bit of holiday the last days ... 03:13 < Aard> fuck, I've br0ken something else :( 03:14 < rxr> mnemoc: hm - maybe I'll implement this ... 03:14 < rxr> cu all - off to bed now .... 03:14 -!- A-Tui [~eof@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("cu all - off to bed now ....") 03:14 < rxr> ah and SMP - I'll commit the update in a few seconds ... 03:14 < mnemoc> gn8 rxr 03:16 < esden> n8 rxr 03:18 < esden> urgh alpha is compleatly broken >_< 03:18 < esden> hmm ... I really have to sit down and start fixing that stuff 03:21 < mnemoc> isn't rolla builing an alpha? 03:21 < Aard> sombody kick me please. 03:23 * mnemoc kick Aard in the head 03:24 < esden> Aard: ?? what have you messed up? 03:25 < Aard> I moved some files to the wrong directories, overwriting other files with the same name. 03:26 < esden> not good 03:26 < mnemoc> that can be bad, or can be very very bad 03:26 < Aard> it's very, very. very bad 03:27 < esden> Aard: you should be more carefull what you are typing on your cmdline 03:27 < Aard> esden: no, I should take more drugs when trying to get some GNU-stuff working 03:29 < esden> Aard: ohh yes that is really importaint when you mess around with evil GNU ;-) 03:30 < Aard> ok, gcc compiles again. 03:34 * -> esden can't wait for Aard's results 03:34 < Aard> esden: it breaks with your patch. I', currently looking _why_ it breaks 03:35 < esden> humm 03:35 < esden> you have to install dietlibc in /usr/dietlibc 03:35 < esden> that is probably the problem 03:38 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: rolla, daja77, tfing, praenti, huebi, Parabull_, blindcoder, n00kie, Mike1, kasc, (+3 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 03:40 -!- Netsplit over, joins: mnemoc, kasc, n00kie, Parabull_, blindcoder, huebi, rolla, daja77, tfing, Mike1 (+3 more) 03:42 < Aard> hehe -- exactly the escond it works espen was gone due to a netsplit :) 03:43 < esden> I really do not want to use opn anymore ... ><_ 03:43 < Aard> fuck, temoved t.c instead of t 03:43 < esden> Aard: as I said ... be more carefull ... 03:44 < Aard> ok, the output is from a chrooted dietlibc-system: 03:44 < Aard> aardvark:/# echo "main(){ write(1,\"foo\n\",strlen(\"foo\n\")); }" > t.c 03:44 < Aard> aardvark:/# /opt/bin/gcc -static -o t t.c 03:44 < Aard> aardvark:/# ./t 03:44 < Aard> foo 03:45 < esden> ldd? 03:45 < esden> or so 03:45 < Aard> ? 03:45 < esden> can you check if it uses dietlibc for sure? 03:46 < Aard> as you can see, I can produce static binaries without the wrapper 03:46 < Aard> in the chroot ther is no clibrary than dietlibc 03:46 < esden> yes ... that is very good ... but try to include a header like ... stdlib.h ... 03:47 < esden> can you do it for me? 03:48 < Aard> problem with your patch was that ENDFILE_SPEC was defined, but really empty. in gcc.c line 661 ENDFILE_SPEC is assigned to *endfile_spec; 03:48 < esden> o_ 03:48 < Aard> since ENDFILE_SPEC contains not even \0 gcc cannot find the end of string while compiling, and breaks. 03:49 < esden> ohh ... so I should remove the ENDFILE_SPEC? 03:49 < esden> I mean the definition in config/linux.h ? 03:49 < esden> hmm .. I thought that ENDFILE_SPEC was defined as "" ... and that does contain \0 03:49 < Aard> better leave it in, I don't know if we have to use it for dl. until now, set ENDFILE_SPEC to "" 03:50 < esden> dl does not contain an endfile object file 03:50 < esden> for static builds at least 03:50 < esden> for dynamic there is something 03:51 < esden> but for now I want to get the static stuff working ... and lateron the dynamic 03:51 < Aard> mh, then maybe remove it. have a look at gcc.c if it's better to remove it, or let it in 03:52 < esden> from gcc.c : 03:52 < esden> #ifndef ENDFILE_SPEC 03:52 < esden> #define ENDFILE_SPEC "" 03:52 < esden> #endif 03:52 < Aard> mh. 03:52 < esden> so I can remove that from linux.h 03:53 < Aard> btw, ad header: 03:53 < Aard> aardvark:/# cat t.c 03:53 < Aard> #include <stdio.h> 03:53 < Aard> main(){ printf("foobar\n"); } 03:53 < Aard> aardvark:/# /opt/bin/gcc -static -o t t.c 03:53 < Aard> /lib/libc.a(vprintf.o): In function `vprintf': 03:53 < Aard> vprintf.o(.text+0x3f): warning: the printf functions add several kilobytes of bloat. 03:53 < Aard> aardvar 03:53 < Aard> aardvark:/# ./t 03:53 < Aard> foobar 03:53 < Aard> here it seems to work flawless 03:54 < esden> argl ... 03:54 < esden> so why is it not working here ? 03:56 < esden> hmm ... that is really strange ... 03:57 < esden> \[\]debug-binutils\[\]:[R.src]# gcc-3 test.c -o test 03:57 < esden> test.c:1:19: no include path in which to find stdio.h 03:57 < esden> \[\]debug-binutils\[\]:[R.src]# 03:58 < Aard> mh. minit compiles without wrapper, but ist linked dynamic. strange. 03:58 < esden> yes that is really strange 03:58 < Aard> more drugs ;) 03:58 < esden> it must not compile 03:59 < Aard> ? 03:59 < esden> it should break when compiling anything dynamically 04:00 < Aard> esden: but it does :) 04:02 < esden> humm ... so my patch reveals abilities I have never thought of 04:03 < Aard> esden: but I don't know why -- even with -static a get a dynamically linked binary 04:03 < esden> urgh???? 04:04 < Aard> ok, my t.c is dynamic without -static, and static with -static. 04:05 < esden> that means that my patch is broken somehow 04:05 < esden> ahh .. no ... it is right 04:05 < esden> I hope at least ... I had that behaviour too 04:05 < esden> what does the gcc as default ... 04:05 < Aard> esden: that's right, but I don't know where's the problem with minit 04:06 * -> esden nither 04:07 < esden> ok ... I need sleep ... I can not do anything now ... my eyes are burning 04:07 < Aard> esden: mompl. 04:07 < esden> cu tomorrow ... hopefully 04:07 < Aard> just testing with screen 04:07 < esden> kk 04:07 * -> esden waiting 04:08 * -> esden dreht sich ne zigarette 04:08 < Aard> aardvark:/src/screen-3.9.15# export CC="/opt/bin/gcc -static" 04:09 < Aard> aardvark:/src/screen-3.9.15# ./configure --disable-nls 04:09 < Aard> compiles and works like a charm. 04:09 < esden> very nice 04:09 < Aard> esden: most work done. congrats. :) 04:09 < esden> I still have a problem with the includes ... gcc is not searching /usr/dietlibc/include 04:09 < esden> but I will thanks Aard 04:10 < Aard> mh, I'll try that tomorrow, if I have time for it 04:10 < esden> and dynamic linking needs some deeper insight too 04:11 < Aard> esden: shouldn't take much more than changing some definitions, too 04:11 < esden> it needs some more STARTFILE ENDFILE SPEC hacking 04:11 < Aard> btw, do you know when you will be in wiesbaden? 04:11 < esden> no idea 04:11 < Aard> :) 04:12 < esden> why are you asking? 04:12 < esden> ;-) 04:12 < Aard> mompl 04:14 < Aard> thursday, june 19th is free. 04:15 < esden> I will have to check my schedule .. but not now ... /me is falling asleep 04:15 < Aard> depending on what you'd like to to you could come a weekend -- or an extended weekend (19/20/21/22) 04:15 < Aard> I don't know if I should eat, sleep or code 04:17 < esden> I should sleep ... I have to get up at 10 04:17 < Aard> tomorrow?! 04:17 < esden> argl ... fscking include_prefixes 04:17 < esden> today 04:17 < Aard> why that? 04:18 < esden> because my parents want that I come with them to grill and windsurf 04:18 < esden> >_< 04:18 < esden> and for that I have to be at 12 in ingolstadt 04:18 < Aard> arghl. I think I'll sleep till about 17:00 :) 04:18 < esden> Aard: you are an asshole you know that? 04:19 < Aard> hehe, yes, some told me that already ;) 04:19 < Aard> what about code&coffe till tomorrow? :) 04:21 < esden> then I will fall over ... and die 04:21 < esden> and I want to live some more time ;-) 04:21 < esden> and go on other people nerves ... and make the world an insecure place to live ;-) 04:21 < Aard> mh. with good coffe uptimes over 60 hours are possible. BTDT. 04:21 < esden> but not physically active uptimes 04:22 < esden> ok ... off to bed ... good night Aard ;-) 04:22 < esden> cu today ;-) 04:22 < Aard> have a nice, short night ;) 04:22 < esden> yea thanks 04:49 -!- mnemoc [~mnemoc@200.75.27.98] has quit ("...") 04:49 -!- zer0_o [~sascha@pop-ls-11-2-dialup-175.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 05:25 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M282P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:27 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M265P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 06:47 -!- huebi_ [~huebi@pD9E1C5FA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 06:55 -!- huebi [~huebi@p50817583.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 07:53 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M265P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:05 -!- Auzain [~boutique@ANancy-103-1-5-101.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 09:07 -!- Auzain [~boutique@ANancy-103-1-5-101.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit (Client Quit) 09:29 -!- cOdEz [~codez@pD9E44E43.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:40 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@gtso-d9b8c449.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:42 < Aard> hi capchaos 09:43 < capchaos> Moin Aard 09:43 -!- cOdEz [~codez@pD9E44E43.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux () 09:45 < Aard> emacs links against dietlibc. took me over 4 hours to get it work... 09:51 < capchaos> Nice! 09:52 < Aard> static linked binary is online, stripped about 4.5mb :) 09:53 < capchaos> 3.9M /usr/bin/emacs 09:53 < capchaos> :P 09:53 < capchaos> (not static tho) 09:54 < Aard> argh. 09:55 < Aard> I'm trying to find where emacs is under my debian. 09:57 < Aard> in short: /usr/bin/xemacs -> /etc/alternatives/xemacs -> /usr/bin/xemacs21-nomule -> xemacs-21.4.6-nomule 09:57 < Aard> depending on what filename you start you can get up to 8 (!!) symlinks until you find the binary 09:59 < capchaos> Yeh, Debian... 10:00 < Aard> since the prevuild emacs sucks I'll replace it with my `diet emacs' as soon as I've been sleeping 10:27 < capchaos> .oO Debians prebuild loads 10-20 times slower than mine... 10:28 < Aard> capchaos: miy dietlinuxbuild loads faster on my p90 than the debian-build on my athlon 1800 10:30 < capchaos> *g* 10:32 < daja77> re 10:35 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD958F9A8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:35 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958F64B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: blindcod1r!blindcoder@pD958F9A8.dip.t-dialin.net))) 10:35 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 10:57 < esden> Aard: that is debian ... the terrible mess ... 10:58 < daja77> *gg* hi esden 10:58 < blindcoder> moin 10:58 < daja77> moin blindcoder 10:58 < blindcoder> bah, USB is slooo~w 10:59 < esden> moin blindcoder, daja77 11:00 * -> esden off for IN 11:00 < blindcoder> at least SNMP works again since the reinstallation :) 11:00 < esden> cu guys 11:00 < blindcoder> esden: mom 11:00 < esden> ? 11:00 < blindcoder> esden: you come to Zaunerweiher with us? 11:00 < esden> when? 11:00 < blindcoder> around 14:30 we meet at St. Markus 11:01 < esden> hmm ... I would like to ... but my parents want that I go with them ... 11:01 < blindcoder> hrm... okay 11:01 < esden> I will call you l8er 11:01 < blindcoder> okay 11:01 < blindcoder> baba 11:01 < esden> now I have to leave 11:03 -!- Freak [~freak@p508B12A3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:26 < rxr> hi 11:26 < rxr> *lol* I submitted a patch to the XFree folks and got this back: 11:26 < rxr> Sorry but code under the GPL cannot be considered for inclusion in 11:26 < rxr> XFree86. 11:26 < rxr> Please put your patches under the MIT or BSD license. 11:26 < rxr> See <https://www.xfree86.org/4.3.0/LICENSE1.html> for an sample license 11:26 < rxr> (The one used on files owned by the XFree86 project itself). 11:27 < rxr> Wow - I had to relicense this one-liner to get it applied ... ;-) 11:47 < daja77> hehe 11:48 < daja77> hi rxr 11:48 * daja77 testing rock desktop featrures, some problems there :( 12:16 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:16 < daja77> hi Ge0rG 12:16 < Ge0rG> hi 13:07 -!- raffi [~raffi@chello080110055038.502.15.vie.surfer.at] has joined #rocklinux 13:07 < raffi> hi 13:11 < rxr> hi raffi 13:19 -!- n00kie [~bofh@M290P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #RockLinux 13:32 -!- Freak [~freak@p508B12A3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exciting") 13:34 < daja77> hi raffi 13:44 -!- Freak [~freak@p508B12A3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:00 -!- huebi_ [~huebi@pD9E1C5FA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14:30 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@gtso-d9b8c449.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit ("Temet nosce.") 14:43 < rxr> rev 480 14:54 -!- raffi [~raffi@chello080110055038.502.15.vie.surfer.at] has quit ("[BX] Tickle-Me Elmo uses BitchX. *giggle* *giggle* *giggle*") 14:56 < rolla> re 15:02 -!- Parabull_ [~Parabull@212.152.174.162] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15:05 -!- zer0_o [~sascha@pop-ls-11-2-dialup-175.freesurf.ch] has quit ("Client Exiting") 15:35 -!- Robin_Root [Robin_Root@ppp-53-254.30-151.libero.it] has joined #rocklinux 15:35 < Robin_Root> hi 15:45 < rxr> hi Robin_Root 15:47 -!- n00kie [~bofh@M290P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:53 -!- n00kie [~bofh@M368P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #RockLinux 16:05 -!- Freak [~freak@p508B12A3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exciting") 16:09 -!- Robin_Root [Robin_Root@ppp-53-254.30-151.libero.it] has quit () 16:18 -!- zer0_o [~sascha@pop-ls-10-1-dialup-136.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 16:19 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@212.152.174.162] has joined #rocklinux 16:26 -!- Freak [~freak@p508B12A3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:30 -!- Robin_Root [~emix@ppp-91-252.30-151.libero.it] has joined #rocklinux 16:32 -!- Robin_Root [~emix@ppp-91-252.30-151.libero.it] has quit (Client Quit) 16:41 -!- Robin_Root [Robin_Root@ppp-29-234.29-151.libero.it] has joined #rocklinux 17:00 -!- ringo78 [~ringo@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has joined #rocklinux 17:20 < rxr> I hate this damn 2.4 kernel with this fucked VM ... 17:20 < Freak> https://p508b12a3.dip.t-dialin.net/~freak/guckmal/screenshots/20030609_17.06.46.jpg https://p508b12a3.dip.t-dialin.net/~freak/guckmal/screenshots/20030609_17.10.22.jpg 17:34 -!- Redgore [Redgore@ACBC52AD.ipt.aol.com] has joined #rocklinux 17:34 < SMP> rxr: if you have a second, can you try if :help works in latest dRock beta gvim? 17:48 -!- martin [~martin@pD9E79FCC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:49 < martin> hi 17:57 -!- Redgore [Redgore@ACBC52AD.ipt.aol.com] has left #rocklinux () 18:17 < rxr> SMP: seems to work on my iBook 18:17 < rxr> SMP: oh mom - still 6.1 on the iBook ... 18:18 < rxr> Freak: which distribution is this on your Macintosh ? 18:19 < rxr> hi martin 18:19 < SMP> rxr: have you ever wondered why gvim refuses to find gtk2? the conftest.c does not even fail 18:19 < rxr> SMP: erhm - no never took a look ... 18:20 < SMP> I'm trying to find out - but that's difficult without an error message :> 18:21 < Freak> rxr: debian sid 18:21 < rxr> Freak: did you had any rt 18:21 < rxr> oops 18:22 < rxr> trouble to get mol running? 18:22 < Freak> well yes but that was user error. 18:22 < rxr> hm 18:22 < rxr> Freak: how fast is mol for you? 18:23 < rxr> SMP: hm just installed a vim-6.2.gem on the iBook and it is linked against gtk-2.2 and :help works, too ... 18:24 < rxr> hm - or gtk-2.0 ??: /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 18:24 < rxr> anyway ... 18:24 < SMP> hmm. maybe I should not try that stuff on the 1.7-snap from March ;-O 18:24 < Freak> rxr: i dont have applications to test speed but it looks like the same. 18:24 < Freak> rxr: but it wont boot / locks up if you have a dvd inserted / insert one 18:25 < rxr> ? 18:25 < rxr> hm 18:25 < Freak> and some of the graphics-card-driven effects dont seem to work 18:25 < Freak> i mean 18:25 < Freak> real transparency works 18:25 < Freak> minimization-effect works 18:25 < Freak> shadow works 18:25 < daja77> re 18:25 < Freak> but the zoom-effect you have in those screensavers in osx dont work 18:26 < rxr> For me it starts to boot - but I do not get to the welcome screen - just "hangs" somwhere when this bar circles around ... 18:26 < Freak> so i suppose thats hardware-driven 18:26 < rxr> I would be happy if it boots fully ... 18:26 < rxr> Freak: how old is your iBook and MacOS-X (exact version would be nice ...) 18:27 < Freak> remove all drives from molrc.osx besides the ones you need and dont have dvd inserted, I havent tried cdrom so far tho. 18:27 < daja77> rxr: I tried to install rev 443 on my sister's laptop, but the pcmcia driver seem to be missing 18:27 < Freak> my _powerbook_ is 16 days old and osx is 10.2.6 (latest) 18:27 -!- zer0_o [~sascha@pop-ls-10-1-dialup-136.freesurf.ch] has quit ("Client Exiting") 18:27 < martin> hi rxr 18:28 < rxr> daja77: I also had some strange unresolved symbols in the last kernel builds in the pcmcia and irsa area - I'll take a look the next time I expereice them (but we already cleaned the kernel configs even further ...) 18:28 < rxr> hi martin 18:28 < martin> rxr: Is there new ppc rock isos? 18:29 < daja77> hmm strange thing is you can't probe any pcmcia device, ok will recompile kernel later 18:30 * daja77 now off for entertainment 18:30 < Freak> rxr: do you have an ibook? 18:31 < rxr> Freak: jups just working on it ... 18:31 < Freak> ah 18:31 < rxr> martin: not yet - this box is still compiling kernels ... - but I'll start testing new isos this evening ... (in some hours ...) 18:32 < rxr> Freak: ROCK on PPC is nearly polished/fnished ;-) 18:32 < Freak> :)) 18:32 < rxr> Freak: do you ever connected an external wheel-mouse? 18:32 < Freak> yup 18:32 < rxr> (in Linux ?) 18:32 < Freak> works just in time 18:33 < Freak> (sure) 18:33 < rxr> which XFree version ? 18:33 < Freak> 4.3 18:33 < rxr> selfcompiled ? 18:33 < Freak> nah theres some debs by michael dänzer 18:33 < Freak> (iirc the name) 18:33 < rxr> which compiler version ? 18:33 < Freak> Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-linux/3.3/specs 18:33 < Freak> Configured with: ../src/configure -v --enable-languages=c,c++,java,f77,pascal,objc,ada --prefix=/usr --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/include/c++/3.3 --enable-shared --with-system-zlib --enable-nls --without-included-gettext --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-clocale=gnu --enable-java-gc=boehm --enable-java-awt=xlib --enable-objc-gc --disable-multilib powerpc-linux 18:33 < Freak> Thread model: posix 18:33 < Freak> gcc version 3.3 (Debian) 18:34 < Freak> whoops long output :) 18:35 < rxr> hm - I needed to fix XFree for the mouse-wheel ... 18:35 < rxr> just submitted the patch to the XFree folks ... 18:35 < Freak> yea I read the license thing :) 18:36 < rxr> strange that it works for you - maybe a comnpiler invariance ... 18:36 < rxr> is mol also compiled with gcc-3.3 ? 18:36 < Freak> i guess.. but better ask debian folk 18:37 < Freak> for i am just a user you know :) 18:37 < rxr> do you manually configured X ? 18:37 < Mike1> moin 18:38 < rxr> hi Mike1 18:38 < Freak> morning Mike1 18:38 < Mike1> :) 18:38 < Freak> rxr: actually I took a preconfigured XF86Config-4 for the powerbook 18:38 < rxr> the one on your homepage ? 18:38 < Freak> mine? 18:38 < Freak> hold on I guess thats my x86 on 18:40 < Freak> no 18:40 < Freak> the file is from april. i bought the pb two weeks ago. 18:40 < Freak> wanna have it? 18:40 < rxr> I'm only interested in the card section 18:41 < rxr> does it use the framebuffer for mode switching ? 18:41 < Freak> https://p508b12a3.dip.t-dialin.net/~freak/guckmal/XF86Config-4.pb12 18:42 < rxr> doesn't the de keyboard layout suck? 18:42 < Freak> i dont know but mol didnt run in full-screen w/o fb activated (I had it deactivated because benh10's fb doesn't redraw) 18:42 < Freak> it was pain in the ass configuring it if you mean that.. 18:43 < rxr> ah nvidia chip forgot this - I have a Radeon here ... 18:43 < Freak> ack 18:43 < Freak> didnt think of that either. 18:43 < rxr> Freak: no I mean the de keyboard layout - is this layout useable on an iBook on debian? 18:44 < Freak> but if you want me to test things here... I'll have time from next sunday on :) 18:45 < Freak> rxr: do you mean "qwertz layout sucks, qwerty is much more 31337, I dont need umlauts"-like or do you mean "using @ and \ etc. on german layout on a mac on linux must be hard to get working"? 18:46 < rxr> I mean the later - I had to patch the layout for the "uncommon" key to be reachable ... 18:46 < rxr> does it work out of the box on debian ? 18:46 < Freak> well it wasnt that hard 18:46 < Freak> no 18:46 < Freak> hold on 18:46 < Freak> https://www.mathematik.uni-marburg.de/~schmidtm/apple/powerbook.de.php <- its so easy.. :) 18:55 < rxr> I modified less - but in the xkb tables ... 18:59 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux 18:59 < LocalHero> Hi all 19:00 < LocalHero> Anybody got beta 3 isos ready 19:01 < rxr> LocalHero: sure I have binaries for evey release I tag. But I have not yet the disk-space to upload them 19:02 < rxr> the two disks arrived - but I first install tomorrow the new disk into the server 19:03 < rxr> ^- during the weekend and public holidays I can not get to the server in the university ... 19:04 < martin> rxr: Are you tomorrow in the university? 19:05 < rxr> yes - at leat to install the disk ... 19:05 < martin> and copy drock on my ibook, please. 19:08 < rxr> hm 19:10 < martin> rxr: hm, hmmm 19:12 -!- jose [~jose@196.40.45.146] has joined #rocklinux 19:15 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAA96C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:17 < tcr> moin all 19:18 < rxr> martin: I would like test tonight more - I need to send a CD out tomorrow ... 19:21 < martin> rxr: Is only, because debian does not really run (no X). 19:21 < rxr> could you maybe come over the next hours - and if my iBook has not yet compiled the packages either stay more hours or lend me your iBook for the night ? 19:22 < rxr> (I do not want to reinstall my iBook - but need one to test ...) 19:23 -!- Robin_Root [Robin_Root@ppp-29-234.29-151.libero.it] has quit () 19:26 < Freak> rxr: why not use mol and an image for linux? 19:26 < Freak> i havent tried it so far but if I understood the manpage correctly, that should work :) 19:27 < Mike1> ping rolla 19:27 -!- jose [~jose@196.40.45.146] has quit ("BitchX WWW Site -- https://we.got.net/~brian/") 19:29 < rxr> Freak: because mol was not yet running correctly for me ... 19:29 < martin> rxr: It's okay. I drive only 8 minutes with the bicycle. 19:29 < rxr> Freak: btw: do you also get many "floating point used in kernel" messages when running mol? (in the syslog?) 19:30 < rxr> Freak: but for the long term this will be my new prefered way to test/debug rock install cd (since vmware sucks so much) 19:30 < Freak> uhm ntik 19:30 < rxr> martin: so you will come over, later? 19:31 < rxr> Freak: could you take a look? And is xemacs / emacs shipped with debian ppc? 19:31 < Freak> rxr: well you might use bochs but I guess mol works better. I *guess* 19:32 < martin> rxr: now? at 20 o'clock, is okay? 19:32 < rxr> Freak: I trid bochs - but it is dog slow! only less then 1% speed of the host cpu! 19:32 < Freak> rxr: nothing at all in the last output. 19:32 < Freak> rxr: ACK ;) 19:32 < Freak> rxr: but its an ambitious project :) 19:32 < rxr> martin: anytime is ok - but I'll not yet have the ISO ready - I still fix the latest not compiling parts of the kernel ... 19:33 < rxr> vut you can take a look on this smoothly running ROCK on my book - and/or take some juice or beer ... ;-) 19:33 < rxr> Freak: yes - quite nice. But they need to do some real visialization to gain some speed ... 19:33 < Freak> rxr: yes *emacs is being shipped. in sid at least. but you might wanna take a look for yourself at packages.debian.org 19:33 < rxr> Freak: bochs runns quite nice - only really really slow ... 19:34 < rxr> Freak: strange I had to fix xemacs to compile here - I have not yet fixed emacs. 19:34 < Freak> rxr: will you be at lt again? 19:34 < Freak> rxr: most packages in debian run on all archs. 19:34 < rxr> I really wonder why so less people contribute fixes back to the projects ... 19:35 < rxr> Freak: yes - for ROCK, too. Only that this debian guys nearly never seem to contribute the fixes back ... 19:35 < rxr> Freak: sure - I'll be at LinuxTag ;-)! 19:36 < Freak> but there's no rock booth or am i missinformed? 19:36 < martin> rxr: is okay. 19:36 < rxr> Freak: there should be a ROCK booth ... 19:37 < rxr> Freak: is there a browseable "aussteller liste" ? 19:37 < rxr> martin: could you post here when you start cycling over? I wanna shower first ... 19:37 < Freak> rxr: there is in joey's infodrom.. a sec. 19:38 < martin> rxr: okay :-) 19:42 < rxr> Freak: so your powerbook uses the apple key as multi-key to reach the 3rd 4th level key-symbols ? 19:43 < Freak> yea 19:43 < rxr> wouldn't you liek the alt key - like in macos - more ? 19:43 < Freak> actually no 19:44 < Freak> btw it doesnt behave like alt until i press fn additionally.. 19:44 < Freak> alt+x doesnt open menu _X_-Chat. Fn+Alt+X does. 19:44 < Freak> any idea? 19:45 < rxr> why dont you wanna use the alt key? 19:45 < Freak> im more used to using alt+gr 19:45 < Freak> -+ 19:46 < Freak> and right apple key lies just like right altgr :) 19:47 < LocalHero> rxr, oki 19:47 < rxr> for the alt key I would need to take a look into the xkb maps ... 19:49 < rxr> I guess it has Meta in the first level and Meta on the 2nd ... 19:51 < rxr> martin: /me is just showering - so cu later ... 19:51 < n00kie> rxr: Are you there? 19:51 < n00kie> ah 19:51 < rxr> n00kie: erhm - yes - just leaving shortly ... 19:53 < rxr> n00kie: you had an question? 19:54 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@212.152.174.162] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 20:01 < LocalHero> is there an easy way to check for diskspace in bash? 20:02 < tcr> df 20:02 < rxr> LocalHero: what do you mean? 20:02 < SMP> "check"? 20:02 < n00kie> df -h 20:02 < LocalHero> rxr, like if you want to say, xxx free 20:02 < n00kie> du -h 20:03 < LocalHero> i want to put it in a variable 20:03 < tcr> LocalHero: either use df or, less portably, some proc file 20:03 < rxr> df in combination with some brace expansion / sed/cut ... 20:03 < rxr> and or tr ... 20:04 < tcr> Though if you really want to gain portability then make sure you aren't using some GNU stuff of df 20:04 < LocalHero> Yupp that was what i planed to do but i just woundered if somebody had some magic command that would skip that part 20:05 * rxr showering ... 20:16 < Freak> oh that reminds me of.. 20:17 < Freak> rxr: what you asked me for some time ago, a complete list w/ project-exhibitors at lt2k3 (and rock is on it, must have overlooked it before): https://www.infodrom.org/Debian/events/LinuxTag2003/projects.php3 20:19 * martin is away, rxr, I'll wil come ... 20:19 < rxr> re 20:20 < rxr> ok cu martin 20:20 < rxr> thanks Freak 20:20 < n00kie> rxr: Can it be, that the website/packages contains a few dependency errors? 20:21 < n00kie> I can't believe, that Irssi needs gnome 1.4 libs... 20:23 < n00kie> damn :), sorry, my fault... 20:25 < rolla> grr 20:25 < rolla> SCO is dumb 20:51 -!- n00kie [~bofh@M368P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("reboot -f") 20:58 -!- Robin_Root [Robin_Root@ip198-2-8.dialup.edisontel.com] has joined #rocklinux 20:59 < Robin_Root> hi 21:08 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has quit () 21:35 -!- owl [gameszone@41.Red-80-24-189.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:35 < owl> hi :) 21:35 < owl> greetz from spain 21:35 < Mike1> owl: tsts, you should say "Saludos desde Espana" :) 21:35 < owl> Mike1: bllll :p 21:36 * owl 's spanish is extremely bad 21:36 -!- Freak [~freak@p508B12A3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21:36 -!- Freak [~freak@p508B12A3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:38 < rolla> owl: you are in espaina 21:39 < owl> rolla: yeah. and the first thing i searched for where inetcafes ;p (and i found 4 of them... about 200 - 1500 metres around the hotel ;))) 21:39 < owl> i won't go back to germany ;p 21:43 < tcr> owl: Yeah, save us! ;) 21:44 < owl> tcr: ah my beloved friend. how do you feel? ;) also too you: greetz 21:45 < tcr> I'm a bit annoyed... bavaria got one and a half weeks holiday, me did only today 21:45 < owl> tcr: hahahaha ;p 21:45 < Freak> owl: you're not coming back? 21:45 < Freak> yes! 21:46 < Freak> victory! 21:46 * owl lehnt sich entspannt zurück, hört das meer rauschen und lacht ueber tcr and Freak 21:46 < owl> Freak: ... 21:46 < Freak> tell me if you need me to send you money so you can stay where pepper grows 21:46 < Freak> for another german schprichwort has been denglished ;) 21:46 < rolla> :) 21:46 < owl> Freak: ok. the number of my swiss account is [...] 21:53 < daja77> re 21:53 < owl> hi daja77 21:54 < daja77> hi owl O_o 21:54 < owl> daja77: *lol* 21:54 < daja77> good to see you laughing 21:54 < owl> daja77: yes ;) 21:55 < daja77> how many spanish boys you had already ;) 21:55 < owl> daja77: zero. 21:56 < daja77> oh c'mon ... 21:56 < owl> daja77: it's true 21:57 < owl> (btw, in Can Picafort are more "rentner" than "sand am meer" ;p) 21:57 < daja77> ok I guess you had lots of icecream, and lying at beach ... 21:57 < daja77> owl: hehe find a rich one 21:57 < owl> daja77: i had one ice... today... /me != hungry 21:58 < owl> daja77: and lying at the beach... and swimming - yes 21:58 < daja77> lucky girl ... 21:58 < owl> daja77: :p 21:58 -!- dreamind [dreamind@IP-213157009116.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:59 * tcr is convinced that owl is really addicted to the internet 21:59 < owl> tomorrow i will go horse-riding in the morning (10 o'clock *sigh) - in the afternoon: swimming, then in the late afternoon - having shower... and after that... "abendessen" and walking at the beach :) 21:59 < tcr> moin dreamind 21:59 < owl> tcr: hehe. and what about you? ;) 22:00 < dreamind> Hi tcr 22:02 < daja77> I guess owl just won't give us a two weeks rest here *gggg* 22:02 < tcr> Don't understand that sentence 22:02 < owl> daja77: hehe ;p i can't live without computers... or without inet... 22:03 < tcr> hm, might be related to the fact that I'm already quite sleepy. Intend to go in bed within the next ten minutes 22:03 < owl> O_o 22:03 < tcr> to bed 22:03 < owl> it's 22:02 ! 22:03 < Mike1> yeah guys leave her alone, you know is not the same to be in spain with all that technology than back there in the woods. 22:03 < owl> and you're - s l e e p y?!!! wtf? 22:04 < daja77> hey Mike1 22:04 * Mike1 wento to bed at 18:00 on friday 22:04 < Mike1> hi daja77 :) 22:04 < daja77> Mike1: teach owl some spanish! 22:04 < owl> daja77: yes... would be useful... 22:04 < tcr> Well, have been in bed at ~2:00 the last three days, and woke up at ~9:00 -- and tomorrow there's school again, so.. 22:05 < Mike1> daja77: no, she is in spain, she _will_ learn no worries 22:05 < daja77> so ... gn8 tcr 22:05 < owl> gn8 tcr 22:06 < tcr> Immer langsam.. 22:06 < owl> *hrhr* 22:06 < daja77> a horse riding owl, what a thought 22:06 < tcr> daja77: well better then latino riding, no? 22:07 < daja77> *ggg* 22:07 < owl> *rofl* 22:07 < owl> (20 minutes remaining... for 2 mbit... 3 euro... quite ok) 22:07 < daja77> the latino killer lady ... 22:08 < tcr> huh? cost per mbit? 22:08 < tcr> That's uncommon in germany at least, isn't it? 22:08 < daja77> ahem you are really tired I guess 22:08 < owl> tcr: nope... 2mbit-standleitung... 1:15 hours --> 3 euro 22:09 < daja77> thats's what I read in it too 22:09 < tcr> Oh.. indeed misread that 22:10 < tcr> Shit happens after all 22:10 < daja77> and every day 22:10 < tcr> What is, by the way, the only reason for the existence of owl 22:10 < tcr> Gosh, now I'm really nasty 22:10 < daja77> ack 22:11 < owl> tcr: you#re always nasty... 22:11 < daja77> anyway I could do one of two things to0night, starting a new build or installing rev 443 to that box, just don't know ... 22:11 < tcr> She's far away for fortune... And I bet she missed her vodoo equipment, so I'm saved 22:12 < owl> tcr: voodoo equipment? *loooooooooool* 22:12 * owl takes a "abbild of tcr" and puts needles in it 22:12 < daja77> owl is haunting you in your dreams 22:13 < daja77> hehe take his matrix picture from the homepage .. 22:13 < owl> daja77: or so.. yeah 22:14 < daja77> owl: you are there with your parents right? 22:15 < owl> leave... 22:15 < owl> bye 22:15 -!- owl [gameszone@41.Red-80-24-189.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit ("Terminando cliente") 22:15 < daja77> bye wol 22:15 < daja77> damn 22:27 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M368P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 22:33 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M368P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Damn, wrong button.") 22:36 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@212.152.174.162] has joined #rocklinux 22:37 * daja77 decided todo the install 22:37 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@212.152.174.162] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 22:40 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M368P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 22:43 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAA96C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:48 -!- Robin_Root [Robin_Root@ip198-2-8.dialup.edisontel.com] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22:53 -!- mnemoc [~mnemoc@200.75.27.76] has joined #rocklinux 22:54 < Mike1> Ole Ole Ole Ole... Costa Rica ! Costa Rica! 22:54 < mnemoc> :( 22:54 < Mike1> Ole Ole Ole Ole!! 22:54 < Mike1> :PP 22:54 < Mike1> :PPP 22:55 < Mike1> hi mnemoc :) 22:55 < mnemoc> hi Mike1:( 22:55 < Mike1> mnemoc: i was really waiting to see you 22:55 < Mike1> :) 22:55 < mnemoc> i know ;) 22:56 < Mike1> Costa Rica 1 - Chile 0 22:57 < Mike1> https://www.nacion.com/ln_ee/2003/junio/08/portadag.jpg 22:57 < Mike1> :PP 22:57 < mnemoc> o_O 22:57 < mnemoc> CHANGING topic ;) ... hyave you tested samba3? 22:58 < Mike1> mnemoc: nope, but but did you knoe that Costa RIca kicked Chile's ass this weekend? :P 22:58 -!- Robin_Root [Robin_Root@ip037-2-22.dialup.edisontel.com] has joined #rocklinux 22:58 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@frn3-d9b942ef.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:58 < mnemoc> 1-0 is noot kicking ass ;) 22:59 < Robin_Root> hi 22:59 < Mike1> mnemoc: doesn't matter 22:59 < mnemoc> :( 22:59 < Mike1> Ole OLe Ole Ole OLe ... Costa Rica ! Costa Rica! 22:59 < daja77> hehe Mike's revenge 22:59 * Mike1 loving every second of it :) 22:59 < Mike1> daja77: :) 22:59 < mnemoc> i'm not :( 22:59 < daja77> I guess Chile gives them an advance ... 23:00 < Mike1> daja77: shut up! 23:00 < Mike1> :P 23:01 * Mike1 puts on "La camiseta de la Sele" :) 23:01 < Mike1> Ole Ole Ole .. Ticos! Ticos! 23:01 < Mike1> ok enought for today 23:01 < Mike1> mnemoc: how are you ? 23:02 < mnemoc> mmmm 23:02 < mnemoc> in silence 23:02 < Mike1> why?> 23:03 < mnemoc> because of your atack and my impossibility to give a good answer in english :( 23:03 < Mike1> BTW I'm not into soccer at all, but i'm really into bugging people, so, sorry mnemoc i just couldn't avoind it 23:03 < daja77> Mike the bugger 23:03 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 23:03 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:03 < mnemoc> Mike is a bug ;) 23:03 < Mike1> i'm not a bug.. 23:03 < Mike1> i'm _the_ bug 23:04 < daja77> but the hedgehog can never be buggered at all ... 23:04 < Mike1> :P 23:05 < mnemoc> Sir Mike The Bugger 23:05 * daja77 swapping data around, to upgrade my build box with rev 443 23:05 * Mike1 still wonders when we will have a stable release... 23:05 < rolla> cool daja77 23:06 -!- dreamind [dreamind@IP-213157009116.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has quit ("Client exiting") 23:07 < Mike1> mnemoc: animate! 23:07 < mnemoc> :) 23:07 < Mike1> mnemoc: ROCK es lo que importa, el futbot no es nada :) 23:07 < mnemoc> sprite? 23:07 < Mike1> mnemoc: lol, nope, but i guess it sounded like it 23:08 < mnemoc> my develop box crashes and nobody picks the damn phone :( 23:08 < Mike1> mnemoc: poor Ale.. 23:08 -!- ringo78 [~ringo@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has quit ("rebooting ........................ :)") 23:08 < mnemoc> :'( snif snif snif 23:09 -!- dreamind [dreamind@IP-213157009116.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:20 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@frn3-d9b942ef.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23:20 -!- ringo78 [~ringo@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has joined #rocklinux 23:35 < mnemoc> i'll guess 'microsoft-fonts' will be out of rock soon :-( 23:35 < Freak> hm? 23:36 < esden> re hi all 23:38 < daja77> hi esden 23:48 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090B407.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:48 < daja77> mnemoc: why? 23:49 < mnemoc> because of the stefan last post 23:49 < mnemoc> "Support for migrating from a Windows NT 4.0 domain to a Samba 23:49 < mnemoc> domain and maintaining user, group and domain SIDs" <-- wow 23:49 * daja77 checking mai 23:49 < daja77> l 23:49 < Aard> hi esden 23:50 < daja77> hey Aard 23:51 < Aard> hi daja77 23:52 -!- martin [~martin@pD9E79FCC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:54 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090BF27.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux --- Log closed Tue Jun 10 00:00:43 2003