--- Log opened Tue Jun 10 00:00:43 2003
--- Day changed Tue Jun 10 2003
00:03 < mnemoc> great... i have my beloved p200 back :)
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00:04 < holyolli> moin
00:05 < daja77> moin holyolli
00:05 < holyolli> hi daja77
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00:05 < daja77> *rofl* http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/hag-09.06.03-002/
00:07 * -> esden -> home
00:07 < holyolli> from which package is libartsc.so from?
00:07 < holyolli> hi esden
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00:09 < daja77> arts perhaps?
00:11 < holyolli> ah. thx
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00:14 < mnemoc> a webbased search if flists could be great
00:15 < mnemoc> s/if/in/
00:15 < daja77> or a mine with rpm's query features ...
00:35 < holyolli> has anybody tested drock-beta-2?
00:36 < Mike1> cpt holyolli.
00:36 < daja77> nope /me testing beta4
00:36 < holyolli> dipl.inf. mike
00:37 < holyolli> daja77: where did you get the isos from?
00:37 < Mike1> holyolli: how are you ?
00:37 < Mike1> holyolli: build it your self you lazy boy.
00:37 < daja77> holyolli: hehe build them myself
00:37 < Mike1> ls
00:37 < Mike1> grr..
00:37 < holyolli> Mike1: fine...but i seriously don't want to compile my laptop 2 days ;-)
00:37 < holyolli> on my laptop even
00:37 < Mike1> why not?
00:38 < daja77> maybe you wanna download my isos two days?
00:38 < holyolli> Mike1: that's l4m3 ;-)
00:38 < Mike1> *gg*
00:38 < Mike1> mmm.. planes are making cappy too much lazy
00:39 < Mike1> i will have to make daja77 shoot you with his water pistol.
00:40 < holyolli> daja77: sounds better to download ;-)
00:40 < holyolli> daja77: where did you get the binaries?
00:40 < holyolli> compiled them for youself?
00:40 < daja77> ok I'll put the 443 isos online if you like
00:40 < daja77> holyolli: sure, compiled them on athlon machine
00:41 < Mike1> 0_o 443
00:41 < Mike1> ?
00:41 < daja77> rev 443
00:41 < Mike1> ah ok.
00:41 < holyolli> daja77: the problem is that i can't compile it here...there are too many broken packages
00:41 < Mike1> for one second i though of 443 as in a matter fo quantity and not version
00:42 < Mike1> holyolli: too many broken packages? are us ure?
00:42 < Mike1> maybe it is your system
00:42 < holyolli> Mike1: ;-P
00:42 < Mike1> holyolli: seriously
00:42 < holyolli> Mike1: i can bring it to you and you fix it...? ;-)
00:42 < Mike1> holyolli: yes you can.
00:42 < holyolli> Mike1: if the error isn't the beta-release, it has to be a problem between chair and keyboard ;-)
00:43 < daja77> holyolli: well I want to reinstall my box now, after that I can put them back online
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00:43 < holyolli> daja77: great! thx
00:43 < Mike1> daja77: so move your fat and install quickly
00:43 < Mike1> :P
00:43 < Mike1> fat ass*
00:43 * holyolli hasn't even 'install' and some essential perl modules on the hdd =)
00:43 < daja77> *argh* I am saving data
00:44 * Mike1 falling asleep, getting some coffee...
00:44 < daja77> Mike1: how do you know about my ass ...
00:44 < mnemoc> o_O
00:44 * Mike1 shocked to death _THERES NO COFFEE_ !!!!!!!!
00:44 < Mike1> daja77: mnemoc described it to me after that n8 he was with you
00:45 < mnemoc> Mike1: are you dreaming with me again?
00:45 < Mike1> mnemoc: :PP
00:46 < daja77> Mike1 is in trance
00:46 < Mike1> beware i have a candy in my hands.
00:46 < Mike1> :P
00:47 < mnemoc> Mike1 is dangerous
00:47 < daja77> hehe football is dangerous
00:48 * daja77 getting a drink ..
00:48 < Mike1> daja77: sure it is, but no worries Costa RIca is the best :P
00:48 < Mike1> right mnemoc?
00:48 * Mike1 hides
00:49 < mnemoc> i just heard on radio that a soccer refery on uruguay kills a player with a knife
00:49 < Mike1> mnemoc: wtf?
00:49 < mnemoc> Mike1: how won that previous match? ;)
00:49 < holyolli> oh..uruguay...?
00:49 < Mike1> mnemoc: we letted you guys win on porpouse just to make the next game more interesting
00:49 < Mike1> :P
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00:50 < Mike1> holyolli: NOTE to ourselves: never go to a football game in uruguay...
00:50 < mnemoc> i think we let you win to end your depression
00:50 < Mike1> mnemoc: :P
00:50 < holyolli> Mike1: hm. I knew one of the former trainers of the football team of uruguay.. =)
00:51 < Mike1> :)
00:51 < holyolli> .oO(*noteonpaper* never meet again...;-)
00:51 < mnemoc> hehe
00:59 < daja77> *note* never meet holyolli ...
01:00 < holyolli> *lol*
01:00 * Mike1 affraid, alcoholy will stay in house very soon
01:00 < Mike1> i mean holyolli :)
01:00 < holyolli> hehe /* no comment */
01:00 < holyolli> :)
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01:12 < mnemoc> who does the replacements (\r,\m,etc.) of /etc/issue?
01:15 < mnemoc> brb
01:15 < mnemoc> (answers are wellcome)
01:20 < daja77> holyolli: I must warn you, pcmcia modules are broken on that isos, you should recompile kernel I guess
01:21 < holyolli> daja77: thanks...i have to do it anyways, because i need some patchwork on the kernel for vaio laptops... =)
01:34 < Mike1> n8
01:35 < holyolli> n8 Mike1
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01:48 < daja77> ok install in progress, bye broken redhat, goodbye 19c3 rock
01:50 < Freak> n8
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01:51 < daja77> re
01:52 < n00kie_> wb daja77
01:53 < daja77> thx n00kie_
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02:00 < daja77> cd2 ...
02:06 < holyolli> daja77: btw. i can't believe that you're just 5 years old...
02:06 < daja77> ??
02:07 < holyolli> daja77: just look on the developers gallery... ;-)
02:07 < daja77> *squeak*
02:07 < holyolli> *lol*
02:09 < daja77> every wher I go, the kids wanna rock ...
02:09 < holyolli> daja77: do you write a mail to esden? /me has to do it too... ;-)
02:09 < holyolli> *g*
02:10 < daja77> I'll do ...
02:10 < holyolli> daja77: then teach him, that bremen is not in NRW...and that i'm not more a student one year ago ;-)
02:10 < holyolli> daja77: no, seriouly..can you write this also in the mail, pls?
02:11 < holyolli> then he hopefully just does the changes in one
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02:23 < daja77> WEEE the first time/machine where grub install worked from stone, without a problem
02:23 < holyolli> cool
02:24 < daja77> ok so now I have to bring up network and apache
02:25 < mnemoc> anybody tested samba3?
02:26 < holyolli> not /me...i have atm a lot of broken pipes during compile... :-/
02:27 < rxr> re
02:27 < holyolli> hi rxr
02:27 < rxr> hi holyolli
02:29 < holyolli> hm. silly question, but how do i update a svn repository? 'svn up' isn't sufficient
02:29 * holyolli just used svn the first time
02:29 < tfing> it is
02:29 < holyolli> strange.
02:30 < tfing> the commands are generally the same as cvs ones
02:31 < holyolli> svn: Path is not a working copy directory
02:31 < holyolli> svn: '.' is not a working copy
02:31 < tfing> what's your cwd ?
02:31 < holyolli> that's what svn is saying to me....before that i did a 'svn co http://schillernet...'
02:31 < tfing> are you in the rock-trunk/ directory ?
02:31 < holyolli> it's /usr/src/rock-src
02:32 < mnemoc> enter rock-truck
02:33 < daja77> rxr: I successfully 9installed rev 443 on my build machine
02:33 < holyolli> even then it's not working
02:33 < mnemoc> rxr: hi!! can you start svnserve once more?? please last time... to move the changes to a http based tree
02:33 < daja77> used stone and it worked ;)
02:33 < holyolli> does it has to stay at the same position in the fs or may i move it?
02:34 < tfing> holyolli: same error ?
02:34 < holyolli> tfing: jepp
02:34 < tfing> holyolli: you have a .svn directory in the current one ?
02:34 < rxr> mnemoc: I can enable it - and I would also like to try to let it enabled. Just to check if this is the cause for lockups or not - so no need to convert immediately ...
02:34 < rxr> mnemoc: up
02:34 < holyolli> tfing: ah..maybe it fell over during a copy....thx
02:35 < mnemoc> thanks :) svn:// is faster than http here :)
02:35 < rxr> mnemoc: yes - I leaave it on. Do not yet convert. svnserve also saves my resources ...
02:36 < mnemoc> ok
02:36 < mnemoc> saves resources is good
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02:40 < rxr> mnemoc: yes ;-)
02:40 * rxr doing an extreme PPC night - today we _WILL_ have the next PPC iso
02:41 < tfing> i suppose all the german team of rock will be at the CCC ?
02:43 < holyolli> camp or congress?
02:43 < tfing> camp
02:43 * holyolli is probably just coming back from training those days...maybe...maybe not :-/
02:47 < rxr> tfing: I guess I will not be at the camp ...
02:48 < rxr> after all this extreme ROCK seassions I need some real live - especially with LinuxTag and the Viena-Dev-Meeting around ...
02:48 < tfing> ok
02:49 < daja77> rxr: see you in karlsruhe ;)
02:49 < rxr> +n
02:49 < rxr> daja77: jups ;-)!
02:50 < daja77> rxr: again congrats, rev 443 install worked flawlessly on my athlon box you know so well, even grub setup worked there
02:50 < rxr> ;-)
02:50 < rxr> and around rev 500 PPC will be quite polished ;-)
02:51 < daja77> now this is a really rocking box
02:51 < daja77> all traces of other os eliminated
02:52 < daja77> irssi getting on my nerves
02:53 < daja77> ok bringing up isos for holyolli
02:53 < holyolli> yeah!
02:53 < holyolli> ;)
02:58 < daja77> holyolli: pls try http://lospalmos.homelinux.net/drock-2.0.0beta4/
03:00 < holyolli> cool..works
03:00 < daja77> it will be slow, isdn connection only, have fun
03:00 < holyolli> ack. i will download some times...
03:00 < holyolli> daja77: you are in gmt+2, aren't you?
03:01 < daja77> hey cool reinstalled box, and brought up apache at 3am, wow
03:01 < holyolli> then i try to download at times where you probably are sleeping ;-)
03:01 < daja77> holyolli: yes
03:01 < daja77> brbr
03:01 < daja77> brb
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03:05 < daja77> gn8 you all
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03:07 < daja77> hi and gn8 holyolli
03:07 < daja77> have fun downloading
03:07 < holyolli> n8ti daja77...schlaf gut ;-)
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03:08 < daja77> the first time isos and host system are the same
03:08 < holyolli> daja77: thanks...if the download bothers you too much, send me a mail
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07:25 < blindcoder> moin
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09:39 < Robin_Root> hi
10:10 < rxr> re
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11:18 < Auzain> hello all
11:19 < Auzain> jemand hier?
11:21 < rxr> hi Auzain
11:23 < Auzain> hi rxr
11:23 < Auzain> deutch or english?
11:24 < Auzain> ich versuch es auf deutch
11:24 < rxr> normally we have LANG=de here ...
11:24 < rxr> so if you are able to wriite in english ...
11:25 < Auzain> ok
11:25 < Auzain> would like test rocklinux, but have no hight speed connection at home
11:26 < Auzain> what should I download for test 1.7 or 2.0
11:27 < Auzain> i'm about downloading base branch for ftp, is that good?
11:27 < Auzain> from ftp :]
11:28 < Auzain> first I would try install the distribution befor trying to make my own iso...
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11:30 < blindcoder> Auzain: you should really use 2.0
11:31 < Auzain> what's the difference between 1.7 and 2?
11:31 < blindcoder> 2.0 is more up to date. rxr is the maintainer of 2.0 and merges regularly with clifford into 1.7
11:32 < blindcoder> so 1.7 contains the changes, but usually at a later date.
11:32 < Auzain> are the sources tree the same?
11:32 < blindcoder> yes
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11:32 < Auzain> or packages :]
11:32 < blindcoder> yes, just that version bumps are sooner in 2.0 than back in cliff's 1.7
11:33 < Auzain> so I need base , x86 and x11 to begin
11:33 < blindcoder> just do ./scripts/Config
11:33 < blindcoder> and configure what you want
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11:33 < blindcoder> then run ./scipts/Download -required to download what you need
11:33 < rxr> blindcoder: nope 2.0 is the stable release tree of the former 1.7 development tree
11:33 < blindcoder> rxr: isn't cliff's 1.7 tree still existent?
11:34 < Auzain> I try it whit 1.7, but I don't understand how add or remove packages
11:34 < rxr> no merges anymore - cliff now sends patches to me - and we will start 2.1 in a months ...
11:34 < blindcoder> rxr: hmm..... maybe we should reflect that in the topic...
11:34 < blindcoder> Auzain: no, please. do yourself a favor and use 2.0
11:35 < rxr> well we thought it is clear that with the 2.0 branch development in 1.7 is frozen - and 2.0 will be forked in some weeks ... ;-)
11:35 < Auzain> ok, ok, nicht schlagen
11:35 < Auzain> :-))
11:35 < blindcoder> Auzain: *tret* :)
11:35 < rxr> Auzain: nneee mug blindcoder
11:35 < Auzain> ?
11:35 < blindcoder> rxr: erm... could you translate that :)
11:36 < rxr> Auzain: use the -beta3 release from the homepage - or an subversion checkout ;-)
11:36 < rxr> s/mug/hug/ ;-)
11:37 < blindcoder> :)
11:37 < rxr> Auzain: http://www.rocklinux.org/projects/rock20/
11:38 < Auzain> rxr: it's downloading
11:38 < Auzain> is there no bootable iso to try?
11:39 < Auzain> a target, I suppose
11:40 < rxr> Auzain: sure - follow the links to the binaries on that page
11:40 < rxr> there is the 1 and 1/2 CD desktop target ...
11:41 < Auzain> 2.0.0-beta?
11:41 < rxr> jups
11:42 < rxr> I'm sorry the new disk is still lying on my disk - and so there was no space for -beta2 and -beta3 ISOs ...
11:42 < Auzain> and the sources are include or precompiled packages
11:42 < rxr> but it will be (hopefully) installed today
11:42 < rxr> precompiled - the sources are automatically fetched from the internet when you do build from source ...
11:44 < Auzain> so I must download it because at home I have no highspeed connection :-(
11:49 < Auzain> I read something about a rescue iso, I don't find it
11:52 < Auzain> or can I do a minimal install whit the first cd of 2.0?
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12:02 * Auzain is away: a la soupe
12:11 < rxr> Auzain: nope the packages are spread automatically over the CDs - so the 2nd also contains basic packages
12:11 < rxr> I plan to improve this before 2.0.0-rc in the next days ...
12:11 < rxr> sorry
12:12 < rxr> the rescue thing is an ROCK 1.x thing - for ROCK 2.0 we would have a minimal target ...
12:16 < snyke> hm
12:16 < snyke> anybody knows a good traffic-monitoring tool - but I don't want to use snmp
12:16 < snyke> ?
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12:27 < snyke> koay thx
12:28 < blindcoder> snyke: what do you have against SNMP?
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13:29 < uninvit3d> Good mornin'
13:29 < rxr> hi uninvit3d
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14:31 < rolla> re
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14:57 < rxr> hi rolla
15:02 < rolla> hallo rxr
15:02 < rolla> how goes the ibook?
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15:11 < daja77> re
15:12 < rolla> lkre
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15:16 < daja77> hi Ge0rG
15:16 < daja77> hey rolla
15:16 < Ge0rG> good morning
15:18 < rolla> daja77: alpha is one big pain in the butt
15:19 < daja77> but it is your pain ...
15:19 < daja77> oh rocklinux hp looks awful in netscape
15:34 < rxr> hi daja77 Ge0rG
15:34 < rxr> rolla: the iBooks proceed great ...
15:34 < daja77> hey rxr, my new rock box is doin fine
15:35 < rxr> daja77: nice!
15:35 < daja77> yeah btw, should I bring it to linuxtag, it has a 40x cd burner in it
15:36 < rxr> jups - we need some cd-writers (but no chaotic hack-center ;-)
15:36 < daja77> no?
15:36 < daja77> *ggg*
15:36 < rxr> yes - bring it with you ;-)
15:36 < daja77> okis
15:37 < rxr> it was just that last year everyone had his half departed MIPS, Playstation, Indy s.th. there - and it was quite - erhm chaotic ...
15:37 < daja77> it is an ordinary pc, with a redhat laber on top ;)
15:37 < daja77> label
15:38 < rxr> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/rene/photos/lxtag-2002/gallery.html
15:39 < daja77> hehe http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/rene/photos/lxtag-2002/lxt_rxr_2007.jpeg ;)
15:40 < daja77> wow chris hamilton had a speech on rock 2.0 last year ...
15:42 < mnemoc> who's the red hat guy?
15:42 < tfing> alan cox, i guess
15:42 < rxr> tfing: ACK ;-)!
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15:43 < mnemoc> HE is ac?
15:43 < tfing> hi all btw
15:43 < daja77> yes!
15:43 < daja77> hi tfing
15:43 < rxr> daja77: well I had the seach and Chris was supporting ;-)
15:43 < rxr> +p
15:43 < tfing> mnemoc: disappointed ?
15:43 < mnemoc> no disappointed, but my image of him was different
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15:44 < Auzain> re
15:45 < daja77> hi Auzain
15:45 < Auzain> hi daja77
15:45 < daja77> rxr: well if you had the speech, then you wrote the wrong description
15:45 < mnemoc> brb
15:46 < rxr> daja77: der Esel nennt sich selbst zuerst ...
15:46 < rxr> hi mnemoc
15:46 < daja77> hmm ic
15:46 < rxr> mnemoc: did you taken a look to the regression tester for gcc33 ;-)!
15:47 < Auzain> rxr: after I quit this morrow, you sayed that the sources are on the 2nd CD, is that right
15:47 < Auzain> so I don't need download they from ftp?
15:48 < daja77> no 2nd cd isn't sources only
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15:53 < rxr> Auzain: no the sources are not on the CD
15:53 < rxr> the sources are 1GB ...
15:55 < Auzain> rxr: so I must download the sources, sur?
15:55 < rxr> yes
15:56 < rxr> you could wget a complete mirror ...
15:56 < rxr> cu later
15:56 < daja77> Auzain: download the sources with the scripts/Download script
15:56 < Mike1> re.
15:56 < daja77> cu rxr
15:56 < daja77> hey Mike1
15:56 < Mike1> daja77 ;-)
15:56 < Auzain> daja77: I have no hightspeed connexion at home, just at work
15:57 < Auzain> :(
15:57 < daja77> ? what is your question exactly?
15:57 < daja77> then download sources at work ...
15:59 < Auzain> I want install a minimal rock, so that I can after configure my own distro
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15:59 < daja77> I have no minimal isos at the moment :(
15:59 < Auzain> I see
16:00 < Auzain> so I should use the first of drock, is it enought?
16:00 < Auzain> or should I download the second to?
16:01 < mnemoc> rxr: gcc33 is working successfully :)
16:01 < daja77> in most cases you need both cds, cos packages are not not distributed very smart over the iso, unfortunately
16:02 < Auzain> cos packages?
16:02 < daja77> because, sorry
16:02 * daja77 lazy writer today
16:03 < Auzain> very smart over the iso?
16:03 < Mike1> daja77: you are _always_ lazy
16:03 < Mike1> hi mnemoc
16:03 < mnemoc> hi Mike
16:03 < Auzain> was heisst das auf deutch?
16:03 < daja77> Mike1: nope, I finished install and brought up apache 'til 3am ...
16:04 < daja77> Auzain: über die isos verteilt
16:04 < Auzain> is there no #rocklinuxde or better fr?
16:04 < Mike1> lol
16:04 < daja77> Mike1: ?
16:04 < Mike1> poor daja77 i mean.
16:05 < daja77> Auzain: nope, but you might ask tfing for translation
16:05 < tfing> hmm ?
16:05 < daja77> tfing: Auzain has problems understanding me, maybe you can tell him in french
16:05 < Auzain> tfing speaks french?
16:06 < tfing> i would be alone on #rocklinuxfr :)
16:06 < daja77> sure
16:06 < daja77> hehe
16:06 < tfing> Auzain: i'm french :)
16:07 < daja77> Mike1: but the machine is working fine now ...
16:07 < Mike1> daja77: excellent
16:07 < daja77> and I killed the rest of rh on it
16:08 < daja77> only one redhat box left ...
16:08 * daja77 off now, cu
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16:09 < daja77> another one I scared away *hrhr*
16:10 < Mike1> you are evil
16:10 < daja77> I know
16:10 < daja77> you should know too :p
16:11 < daja77> *rofl* http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030609
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16:12 < Auzain> gna
16:12 < daja77> wb Auzain
16:15 < Auzain> and #rocklinuxde ?
16:16 < Auzain> tfing: try /join #rocklinuxfr
16:25 < rxr> re
16:27 < rxr> daja77: cool URL
16:28 < mnemoc> i don't see #rocklinux$lang as a good practice... may i better if we support the 'instant translation'
16:33 < Auzain> mnemoc: I don't want flood your channel with my bad english :]
16:34 < mnemoc> mine is worst :)
16:34 < Auzain> mnemoc: ?
16:35 < rolla> mnemoc: I agree with you
16:36 < Mike1> hi rolla
16:36 < rolla> re Mike1
16:36 < mnemoc> rolla: agree with my bad english, or agree with the no-split police?
16:36 < rolla> no-split
16:36 < rolla> if you fragment those who are here you make it very hard to help people
16:37 < rolla> just look at gentoo
16:38 < mnemoc> gentoo is THE reference for 'bad policies' :D
16:38 < rolla> :)
16:38 < rolla> I tried to load it on my alpha but they have irc channels split all to hell
16:40 < mnemoc> any idea about how to solve this syntoms?
16:40 < mnemoc> - bunzip -t said file is ok
16:40 < mnemoc> - tar -t said file is ok
16:40 < mnemoc> - Download -check said 'bunzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing.'
16:41 < mnemoc> (linux-2.4.20.tar.bz2 for 0-linux-header... the very first pkg)
16:43 < Auzain> no more #rocklinuxfr snif
16:44 < tfing> Auzain: i'm still here if you want to msg me in french
16:45 < Auzain> tfing: where are you rest?
16:45 < mnemoc> he can ask in french and you translate :)
16:45 < tfing> what ?!
16:45 < Auzain> tu habite ou?
16:45 < tfing> Göteborg
16:46 < Auzain> a new country of France ;-)
16:47 < Auzain> you are not french?
16:47 < tfing> i am
16:47 < tfing> i'm just studying in sweden
16:47 < Auzain> then from where?
16:48 < tfing> niort
16:51 < tfing> (deux-sevres, 79)
16:52 < Auzain> le poitou non?
16:52 < tfing> yep
16:53 < Auzain> y'a deux ans on ete au futurotruc avec les gosses, c'etait chouette
16:53 < tfing> :)
16:56 < mnemoc> chouette?
16:56 < Auzain> toll
16:57 < tfing> mnemoc: sweet
16:57 < tfing> , nice
16:57 < mnemoc> ok :)
16:58 < Auzain> futurotruc: futuroscope (Poitier)
16:58 < rolla> ;)
17:17 * Mike1 fscking falling asleep...
17:18 < mnemoc> did you slept last n8?
17:19 < Mike1> 1 or 2 hours...
17:19 < mnemoc> work or joy?
17:20 < Mike1> coding... both porpouses i guess..
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17:26 < owl> hi
17:27 < Mike1> Hola Sandra
17:27 < owl> hi Mike1 *hug*
17:29 < Mike1> *rehug* owl
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17:38 < Auzain_> tfing: must go, je vous raconterai demain ce que j'ai reussi a faire avec rocklinux :)
17:38 < tfing> :)
17:38 < tfing> ++
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17:46 < owl> hi capchaos
17:47 < capchaos> Owl!!
17:47 < capchaos> Hi
17:47 < owl> Aard: you here?! O_o
17:48 < Aard> owl: yes
17:48 < owl> Aard: O_o why in #rocklinux?
17:48 < Aard> why not? :)
17:48 < owl> dunno
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18:15 < owl> hi Ge0rG
18:15 < Ge0rG> re
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19:24 < mnemoc> rxr: are your here?
19:28 < rxr> mom - in some minutes
19:30 < mnemoc> sorry... the problem was mine... me and my damn unfinished tar -x
19:44 < mnemoc> arrrrgh!!! gunzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--crc error
19:44 < mnemoc> this box is totaly fscked
19:50 -!- martin [~martin@pD9E7A3C3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
19:50 < martin> hello all, hi rxr
19:51 < rxr> mnemoc: back
19:51 < rxr> hi mnemoc
19:51 < rxr> err hi martin
19:51 < mnemoc> rxr' mantra: autocomplete is your friend
19:51 < rxr> mnemoc: yes - a very good friend ... :-(
19:53 < capchaos> Nice variable in Links2's jsint.c ... extern int js_durchfall;
19:54 < martin> rxr: Were you today in the Uni?
19:55 < rxr> martin: no - why do you ask?
19:56 < martin> rxr: iBook ;-) Does it run?
19:58 < rxr> yes
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19:58 < rxr> but your iBook doesn't seem to be able to scale the CPU frequency ...
19:58 < rxr> does this work in MacOS X ?
19:59 < martin> rxr: *hmpf* :-(   I think so.
19:59 < rxr> and X does not yet run as good as on my Book ... :-(
20:00 < rxr> but we can work on this later - now it is running ....
20:01 < martin> no X? Hmmm, But I have really the same hardware like u, or?
20:02 < _Caspar__> does anybody has problems building linux24 with the aktual svn checkout ?
20:02 < rxr> yes X. But not as fast as it could be ...
20:03 < rxr> martin: nope you have an Radeon M6 - I have an M7 ...
20:03 < rxr> martin: + your wohle book is some revisions older ...
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20:03 < rxr> martin: but I'll do some research and hacking to improve this over the next weeks ...
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20:04 < martin> rxr: ok
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20:08 < rxr> martin: do you want to come over get it back?
20:08 < rxr> btw: YDL also does neither support VGA nor SVideo:
20:08 < rxr> VGA (not supported), S-Video (not supported), Composite
20:10 < martin> rxr: will you work with the iBook this week? Hmmm, I'll come :)
20:10 < martin> rxr: vga :-(
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20:22 < rxr> the external VGA adapter ...
20:23 < rxr> the display works ...
20:25 < rxr> cu martin
20:25 < martin> rxr: Hmm, can I come around, or not?
20:26 < rxr> yes - you can. the cu was since I guess you already started cycling ;-)
20:27 * rxr away eating cu martin
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20:39 < holyolli> moin
20:44 * martin is away ...
20:49 < n00kie> good night
20:49 < holyolli> n8 n00kie
20:49 < n00kie> n8 holyolli
21:02 < rolla> Mike1: ?
21:03 < Mike1> rolla: ?
21:03 < holyolli> Mike1: ?
21:03 < holyolli> rolla: !
21:03 < holyolli> <-- creating some chaos... ;-)
21:03 < Mike1> holyolli: !
21:03 < holyolli> holyolli: !
21:03 < holyolli> Mike1: ?
21:04 < holyolli> rolla: ?
21:04 < holyolli> ;-)
21:04 < Mike1> alcoholy!
21:04 < holyolli> hehe
21:07 < rolla> holyolli:
21:08 < rolla> how is it going?
21:08 < holyolli> rolla: fine. i burned a flight simulator with a friend today =)
21:08 < holyolli> oh...brb...fon
21:09 < daja77> re
21:09 < rolla> ?
21:13 < daja77> hmm I thought we had nvidia driver package, can't find them >_<
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21:18 < rolla> grr I think my sendmail book is too old
21:18 < daja77> why use sendmail anyway
21:19 < rolla> cause it rocks
21:20 < daja77> huh?
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21:23 < rolla> daja77: sendmail is better than anything else
21:24 < daja77> better than chocolate icecream, no way ;)
21:25 < rolla> yup
21:25 < daja77> strange old man :p
21:26 < rolla> me strange nope
21:26 < rolla> old? nope
21:27 < daja77> not strange? but why are you here then ...
21:27 < rolla> :)
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21:28 < daja77> anyone has trouble with usb device on a recent rock?
21:30 < rolla> nope
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21:32 < daja77> rolla: you have no usb device, or no problems
21:32 < rolla> :)
21:32 < rolla> no usb
21:32 < rolla> last time I triend usb wwith rock it would not work
21:32 < daja77> :PP
21:34 < daja77> strange usb is compiled into kernel wtf
21:43 < daja77> anyone here besides rolla ?
21:44 < mnemoc> me
21:44 < Mike1> ich.
21:45 -!- Robin_Root [Robin_Root@ppp-32-232.29-151.libero.it] has joined #rocklinux
21:45 < daja77> do you know if we have a nvidia package?
21:45 < daja77> wb rolla
21:45 < daja77> damn
21:45 < daja77> wb Robin_Root
21:46 * daja77 kicks irssi
21:46 < rolla> :)
21:46 < rolla> irssi rocks
21:46 < daja77> yeah most of the time
21:46 * mnemoc kicks xchat/win32 
21:46 < daja77> haha
21:46 * Mike1 kiss his new laptop
21:47 < daja77> poor laptop *ggg*
21:47 * mnemoc wants the old one
21:47 < Mike1> mnemoc: sure come for it.
21:48 < mnemoc> i would love to, but not this year :(
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21:54 < Mike1> mnemoc: i will keep it here and when you get the chance to come you take it with you
21:55 < mnemoc> :o thanks.... now i'll have to figure out how to get there :)
21:55 < Mike1> hehe yups..
22:01 < mnemoc> ppl said san jose is beautyful
22:02 < Mike1> ack
22:02 < Mike1> und Alajuela is way cool too :)
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22:08 < tsa> hi all
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22:10 < holyolli> huhu tsa
22:11 < daja77> wtf I sort of broke my new installed box by starting X
22:12 * Mike1 ROFL
22:12 < daja77> I killed all the X processes via laptop, but I can't still access my consoles
22:13 < daja77> kde intro screen is grinning evilly at me
22:13 < tsa> i guess it's no x-box, then ;-)
22:13 < daja77> how can I kill that without reboot9ing
22:14 < tsa> with a hammer..
22:14 * daja77 uses a hammer on tsa
22:14 < tsa> hehe
22:15 < daja77> holyolli: well have to reboot, *gnargl*
22:16 < holyolli> just do it ;)
22:17 < daja77> kde is like windows ...
22:17 < Mike1> daja77 is like bill gates...
22:18 < daja77> Mike1 is like sco
22:18 < rolla> ouch
22:18 < holyolli> <-- is going to theory lessons...bbl
22:19 < rolla> if that is true rolla can nolonger talk to Mike1
22:19 < daja77> tsa: feel free to continue download, 'til next crash
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22:19 < daja77> ;)
22:19 < daja77> rolla: I just wanted to be nastier than Mike ...
22:19 * Mike1 gives a deep luck at daja77
22:22 < daja77> hmm Mike1 wanna have me *running away*
22:23 < Mike1> yes run like hell
22:24 < daja77> hehe why you are not that fast :p
22:25 * Mike1 is faster than daja77
22:25 < Mike1> daja77: anyways you can be the fater if you want
22:26 < daja77> farting faster *hiding*
22:26 < daja77> nah don't wanna eat that much ;)
22:27 < Mike1> are you looking for your death?
22:27 < Mike1> :)
22:27 * daja77 likes teasing Mike1 
22:27 < Mike1> ich weiss
22:28 < daja77> you said it without error, congrats my friend ;)
22:29 * daja77 still bein pissed from the visit at my grandma's
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22:32 < Mike1> 0_o
22:32 < Mike1> :)
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22:32 < daja77> some stupid morons gave her a borken monitor, so we couldn't test the box I prepared for her ...
22:34 < Mike1> daja77: arrggss
22:35 < daja77> and she told me three times, that they have told her how good it had worked at them, that shitty old monitor *gnarf*
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22:36 * Mike1 wishing to be there to go with daja77 and kick some ass
22:37 * daja77 convinced her of bying a tft panel
22:39 < daja77> ok will test x again ...
22:44 < ringo78> tft  me still on 800*600 :( shopuld be 1024 *..
22:44 < ringo78> Hi all(e)
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22:45 < daja> hehe X works now, trying kde chat client  ...
22:46 < daja> wow it sucks more than xchat ...
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22:48 < Mike1> hi ringo78
22:49 * daja77 waves
22:52 < daja77> kterm transparency is weird
22:52 < Mike1> :P
22:52 < Mike1> daja77 = kde lover?
22:53 < daja77> nah I am testing it, btw gnome defaults sucking
22:55 < Mike1> yes they do, but even if they didn't you would still change them
22:55 < Mike1> aint i right?
22:56 < daja77> gnome-terminal is much better than kterm, now I am feeling better
22:57 < Mike1> :)
22:57 < daja77> setting transperancy on kterm produces weird effects ...
22:57 < Mike1> ack
22:59 < ringo78> hi Mike1 !
23:00 < daja77> mouse wheel doesn't work when using the usb mouse via ps/2 :(
23:00 < rolla> daja77: you just need to config it right ;)
23:00 < daja77> ?
23:01 < daja77> I have added the buttons options
23:01 < daja77> usb seems to be broken in general
23:01 < rxr> committed revision 501 ;-)!
23:02 < rolla> daja77: you are sure
23:02 < daja77> lsusb output is:
23:02 < daja77> Unknown line at line 1809
23:02 < daja77> Duplicate HUT Usage Spec at line 2650
23:02 < daja77> rolla: protocol is PS/2
23:03 < rolla> daja77: that is your problem
23:03 < rolla> you need it to be usb yes?
23:03 < daja77>     Option "Buttons"     "5"
23:03 < daja77>     Option "ZaxisMapping" "4 5"
23:04 < daja77> rolla: I hope not, I'd need usb for my scanner ...
23:04 < rolla> yeah that is right I am wondering about protocol
23:04 < daja77> when I use IMPS/2 mouse doesn't work, hmm could try again, mom
23:05 < rolla> IMPS/2 is what you need
23:05 < rolla> SubSection "Mouse"
23:05 < rolla>     DeviceName "USB Mice"
23:05 < rolla>     Protocol "IMPS/2"
23:05 < rolla>     ZAxisMapping 4 5
23:05 < rolla>     Port "/dev/input/mice"
23:05 < rolla>     Alwayscore
23:05 < rolla>   EndSubSection
23:05 < Mike1> *ggg*
23:05 < rolla> :)
23:05 < rolla> I aim to help
23:05 * Mike1 proud of rolla :)
23:06 < daja77> hey it works
23:06 < Mike1> daja77: congratulations
23:06 < rolla> congrats
23:06 < Mike1> you owe rolla and I a beer :)
23:06 < daja77> using IMPS/2 protocol over /dev/misc/psaux
23:06 < rolla> daja77: I fought long and hard with mice and X
23:07 < daja77> ok I now know why X broke last time, I tried to load glx module with vesa driver, d'oh
23:07 * daja77 gives rolla a beer
23:08 < rolla> danke
23:08 < daja77> I am using two mice on my old redhat laptop ...
23:08 < rolla> hope that was good beer
23:08 < daja77> sure ;)
23:08 < Mike1> daja77: hey! where is my beer??!?!
23:09 < rolla> :)
23:09 < daja77> hmm what was your contribution?
23:09 < Mike1> daja77: born :)
23:09 * daja77 gives a beer two Mike1 
23:09 < daja77> -w
23:10 < Mike1> daja77: thanks :)
23:10 < daja77> rxr: do you had problems with usb devices on a recent rock?
23:11 < daja77> btw running transperant gnome-terminal on kde is quite fun ...
23:12 < daja77> you can keep all my typos tonight
23:14 < rxr> daja77: erhm USB problem? rockplug or general kernel stuff?
23:17 < daja77> general, I think it isn't a good idea to compile any usb stuff not as modules, make things strange
23:18 < daja77> + I get strange output from lsusb
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23:18 < rolla> rxr do you have a 2.0 iso out for download?
23:18 < daja77> no plugged in device were recognized
23:20 < daja77> I guess I am too tired to track that down
23:20 < rxr> rolla: only the slightly older -beta - take a look on the www.rocklinux.org/projects/rock20 page (--typos)
23:21 < daja77> anyway this rock version is much more fun, than the 19C3 version, I am looking forward to 2.0
23:21 < daja77> damn I need dsl so that everybody can grab my isos ...
23:22 < rxr> daja77: this is only a temporal disk space problems which will be solved with the two IBM disk on my desk. I only need the damn time to plug them into the server.
23:22 < rolla> rxr: thanks
23:22 < mnemoc> what upstream have dsl there?
23:22 < rolla> I will try to load it on my laptop
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23:22 < rxr> When installed you continue to get a official iso to each tar-ball
23:22 < rolla> mnemoc: crap
23:23 < rxr> mnemoc: mine has 256kBit/s
23:23 < rolla> rxr: must be nice
23:23 < mnemoc> here, the usual is 128
23:23 < rxr> but the server has a 155MBit/s DFN connect (but sadly only 100Mbit/s get to the server via ethernet ...
23:24 < rxr> mnemoc: jups the common case is 128 over here, too
23:24 * daja77 considering start building rev 501 before goin to bed
23:25 < rxr> reftester completed BTW.
23:25 < daja77> hehe 61GB free for rock building
23:26 < Mike1> daja77: build freak :)
23:26 < daja77> Mike1: yeah, it is fun
23:28 < Mike1> i remeber whn i had time to run so many builds
23:29 < daja77> Mike1: you suck :PPP
23:29 < Mike1> no i don't :P
23:29 < Mike1> but thanks for the offer.
23:29 < Mike1> :P
23:30 < daja77> haha never ...
23:30 * daja77 thinks of using subversion for his studienarbeit
23:31 < daja77> rxr: hope you don't mind that I offer some isos?
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23:32 < martin> re
23:32 < rxr> daja77: nope - this is ok.
23:32 < Mike1> daja77: PR is always welcome !
23:33 < rxr> I just wanted to state that the official binary thing will continue in some days ...
23:33 < daja77> I appreciate that very much
23:33 < rxr> daja77: you want to analyze subversion or you want to use it to version control your text ?
23:34 < daja77> I want to use it to manage the sources I have to work on
23:34 < daja77> branching them with several parallel versions sounds nice to me
23:35 < rxr> I need an AMD 64 system - I could do a dayly regression run ;-)!
23:36 < daja77> opteron support is in rc6 ...
23:36 < rxr> I think I write AMD agian this night ... ;-)
23:36 < daja77> .oO my athlon is very hot, while doin nothing
23:37 < daja77> hmm maybe you can ask them at linuxtag too
23:37 < daja77> there are sponsoring iirc
23:37 < daja77> they even
23:38 < rxr> they should sponsor me a dual or quad x86_64 instead of the LinuxTag ;-)
23:38 < daja77> yeah i could need one two
23:42 < daja77> ok deleted my daily spam ...
23:43 < daja77> rxr: didn't made a stone module right night, cos time was pressing, but I have another isdn box ;)
23:43 < daja77> s/night/now
23:45 * daja77 steals a cigar from Mike1 and lights it
23:45 * Mike1 doesn't smoke, take all the pkg if you want
23:46 * daja77 neither ...
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23:47 < daja77> off to bed now, will start build tomorrow
23:47 < Mike1> n8 daja77 :)
23:47 < daja77> n8 Don Miguel ;)
23:48 < rxr> n8 daja77
23:48 * rxr off jogging ...
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23:54 < rolla> off to bed
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23:57 < holyolli> re
23:58 < Mike1> welcome back holy
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