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00:02 < netrunner> n8 nookie
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00:03 < netrunner> wow, I just created my first patch :)
00:03 < daja77> congrats
00:06 < netrunner> hm ... i have already a list of packages I wish to contribute. should I open my own repos?
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00:09 < daja77> gn8 you all
00:10 < netrunner> n8 daja77
00:13 < Mike1> n8
00:29 < rxr> <IMG SRC="../drock.jpg" WIDTH="95" HEIGHT="95" HSPACE="10"
00:29 < rxr> oops
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02:10 < rxr> noone here ?
02:10 * SMP is
02:10 * tfing is also
02:27 < SMP> gah ..
02:27 < SMP> rxr: can you give me at least the glibc.gem from the beta4 x86 build - p-uh-leaze ;)
02:28 < SMP> beta3 can't compile anything
02:28 < rxr> a mix of the latest ones is in rock-linux/x86/pkgs ...
02:28 < rxr> for sparc and ppc applies the same - but they are older ...
02:28 < SMP> (maybe only <gnu/stubs.h> would be enough)
02:30 < SMP> thanks
02:31 * SMP takes all of rxr's bandwidth
02:31 < SMP> ;>
02:31 < rxr> SMP: no problem. The line is used to this ...
02:41 < rxr> and I currently do not need the bandwidth anyway - I'm writing ROCK Linux install documentation for PPC ...
03:17 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux.org/projects/drock/install/drock-install-20-powerpc.html
03:17 < rxr> if someone want to make some corrections (but I'm still writing on it ...)
03:19 * SMP looks into /usr/lib and /usr/libexec and cries ...
03:24 < rxr> hm - what are those lib*.{a,so} files diong there ... :-(
03:28 < SMP> yeah - and lynx.cfg ..
03:28 < rxr> do you send patches ?
03:28 < SMP> don't count on it at the moment
03:29 < SMP> I'll put it on my TODO, but it's already long
03:30 < SMP> *WOW*
03:30 < rxr> hm ?
03:31 < SMP> in a kde app, an input field for a filename that automatically offers completions
03:32 < rxr> this is the case for all file dialogs since KDE 3.0 (IIRC) what is so astonishing?
03:32 < rxr> you  even have this in the location (URL) thing in Konqueror ...
03:34 < SMP> I never used a kde app other that kmail for years
03:34 < rxr> oh - kmail is one of the KDE applications I do not like that much ... ;-)
03:35 < SMP> I use it just for testing IMAP with a gui client
03:35 < rxr> and, did it worked ?
03:35 < SMP> yes, kmail is quite a sane program
03:45 < SMP> hah, stupid
03:47 < SMP> I imported my UTF-8 .mutt/aliases into kaddressbook (it worked fine, suprise), but when I send a mail to a person with a Cyrillic name, it shows up as garbage in kmail
03:48 < rxr> hm ...
03:49 < SMP> using i18n makes all programs break, if I want ;->
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03:51 < rxr> sch*****e - merke geade das mitten beim Linuxtag (den Freitag) ein Freund Heiratet ...
03:52 < rxr> warum liegt dier LinuxTag und der CCC immer so besch***den ...
03:52 * rxr grummeling ...
03:57 < SMP> it works when I drag the address from kaddressbook into kmail, but not when I use "Datei / Versenden ..."
03:57 < SMP> (in kaddressbook)
03:57 < SMP> and the kaddressbook import cannot remove <> from around email addresses ;-(
03:57 < rxr> SMP: if it is an actual KDE version report the bug ... ;-)
03:58 < SMP> the whole layout of the import dialog is crap ... it's hard to use without experimentation
03:59 < rxr> yups
03:59 < SMP> why do they write millons of LOC and then things start breaking after 3 minutes of trying to do something useful?
04:01 < SMP> btw. prelink and mine interaction in ROCK is currently very unsatisfying
04:02 < SMP> there should be easy support for (un)prelinking single packages
04:03 < SMP> and /etc/cron.d/20-prelink should not do anything without the admin setting a flag
04:03 < rxr> does prelink work for you? The last time I tried it only crashed
04:04 < SMP> yes, as far as I can see, I works fine. doesn't crash
04:04 < rxr> the this damn red hat person is not (Jakub?) was not respoinding to my mails asking where the most recent versions are kept ...
04:04 < rxr> the ROCK 2.0.0-betaXYZ build ?
04:04 < rxr> or seom selfmade ?
04:05 < SMP> no, your beta3 from beginning of May
04:05 < rxr> interesting ...
04:06 < SMP> libqt-mt cannot be prelinked because it is not a PIC object. can this be changed?
04:06 < rxr> wc drock/install/drock-install-20-powerpc.templ
04:06 < rxr>     333    1592   10912
04:06 < rxr> buah
04:06 < rxr> this would make three pages for a Linux Magazin article ;-)!
04:07 < SMP> libqt-mt is really a good candidate for prelinking ;)
04:07 < rxr> hm - if I should try this on the iBook ...#
04:07 < SMP> try what?
04:08 < rxr> prelinking ...
04:08 < SMP> I thought it was x86 only?
04:08 < rxr> I guess I will burn ...
04:08 < rxr> nope - but most other plaform are not really tested I guess ...
04:22 < SMP> hmmm
04:22 < SMP> libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.2/libstdc++.la'
04:23 < SMP> I installed the glibc and this started. any idea?
04:25 < rxr> no
04:26 < SMP> of course it exists as .../3.2.3/libstdc++.la
04:28 < SMP> hmm, and cups does not seem to support the 'smb network' protocol :(
04:32 < rxr> I never had Windows in the last years to test. the only contact with Windows is ath pace.de where they pay much money for waiting in front of MVC++ ... ,-)
04:33 < SMP> well, cups _does_ support it, it just does not seem to be enabled in the ROCK build
04:33 < rxr> I already understood this part ...
04:34 < SMP> ;p
04:53 < SMP> hah, problem solved
04:55 < SMP> cups needs a ln -s `which smbspool` /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb
04:56 < SMP> do we test for smbspool in cups.conf cups_pm or do it in a STONE mod_cups?
04:58 < SMP> (and this really should be /usr/libexec/cups/ ...)
05:00 < mnemoc> you could add pkg_samba_prefix to parse-config, and ln -sf $pkg_samba_prefix/smbspool %libdir/backend/smb in cups' .conf
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05:05 < holyolli> moin
05:05 < esden> moin
05:05 < holyolli> hi esden
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08:37 < netrunner> moin
08:37 * netrunner throws little balls of paper at esden
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08:44 < esden> netrunner: :P /me throws back ...
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08:44 < netrunner> esden: I sent my first patch to some guy tonight *g*
08:45 < esden> o_O ... which guy?
08:45 < esden> what patch?
08:46 < netrunner> esden: imgv, an image viewer. python. I plan to include it in rock (and several other :)
08:46 < netrunner> esden: but I still do not know how, shall I just open a new repos, or give them to someone else
08:48 < esden> open a new repos ... or give it to someone else ... as you wihish ... if you plan to have more packets then it is for sure better you open a new repos
08:48 < netrunner> esden: but then I am responsible for them ... work ... :)
08:51 < esden> but finding someone that will care for _your_ packages will be difficult I think ...
08:53 < netrunner> *g* no, I wanted to contribute anyway, so I open a new. (currently fighting with svn on my lap, that damn rh will go _soon_)
08:58 < esden> hehe ... but to get svn running is always a "slight" problem
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09:10 < Auzain> good morning
09:11 < Auzain> daja77: always no stubs.h on my rocklinux...
09:13 < Auzain> there must be a problem with glibc in drock 2.0 beta
09:34 < esden> hi Auzain 
09:35 < esden> weasel@localhost:~$ find /usr/include/ -name stubs.h
09:35 < esden> /usr/include/gnu/stubs.h
09:35 < esden> I have it ...
09:35 < esden> so it seems that there is something broken on your system and not in rock ...
09:36 < Auzain> I only install drock...
09:36 < Auzain> and reboot
09:37 < Auzain> nothing else, no options, niet, 4 times now
09:37 < esden> hmm ... I installed the generic build and everything works ...
09:38 < Auzain> is generic build the same as drock?
09:38 < Auzain> where can I find it?
09:38 < esden> hmm ... they are bit different but not much ...
09:39 < Auzain> one difference is enought
09:39 < esden> and ... there is no drock ... there is only a desktop target in rocklinux
09:39 < esden> ofyi
09:39 < esden> you can find it in rocklinux .. ;-)
09:39 < Auzain> http://drocklinux.dyndns.org/ftp/drock/unstable/2.0.0-beta/
09:40 < esden> no that is rocklinux ... only the url is so confusing
09:40 < esden> it is the future stable tree of rocklinux ...
09:41 < Auzain> I'm lost in space
09:41 < esden> and what you find there ... it is the compiled desktop rocklinux target ... 
09:41 < netrunner> drock is missing some servers, like wuftpd, bind, sendmail but has many games instead
09:42 < Auzain> but your generic target is not compiled? now I can't compile some target
09:43 < Auzain> I don't find any target
09:43 < esden> Auzain: /topic
09:43 < netrunner> Auzain: you can read the files in http://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk/target/ to see which packages are included in the respective target.
09:45 < Auzain> ok, but how can I build a target now? I must have a working system befor...
09:46 < netrunner> Auzain: checkout the source, run scripts/Config, run scripts/Download -required, run scripts/Build-Target
09:47 < Auzain> I do that, it doesn't work
09:47 < netrunner> Auzain: well, youre to fast, you know .
09:47 < Auzain> to run scripts/Config I must have stubs.h
09:48 < Auzain> so I copy it for a other distro
09:49 < esden> you are using the iso from the site you told me?
09:49 < netrunner> Auzain: beta means 'some things do not work'
09:49 < Auzain> yes
09:49 < esden> if yes then it is terribly old ... we are already at beta4 ...
09:49 < Auzain> netrunner: I know
09:49 < Auzain> and where is it ?
09:50 < esden> Auzain: do ./scripts/Build-Pkg glibc ... then the headers should be fixed ;-)
09:50 < netrunner> Auzain: build glibc again yourself, then try again.
09:50 < netrunner> esden :P
09:50 < Auzain> netrunner: someone must test and finds bugs, no?
09:50 < esden> netrunner: :-*
09:50 < netrunner> Auzain: yes. but the one is supposed to fix them, too
09:51 < Auzain> netrunner: 8-]
09:51 < esden> Auzain: yes ... but I think that it as already fixed ... and your problem is only there because you are using an outdated build ...
09:52 < Auzain> I don't find an other
09:54 < esden> Auzain: try this ... it should be ok as jumpstart ... : http://iso.rocklinux.de/?menu=18
09:57 < esden> you will have to update some packets with scripts/Build-Pkg but after that you have a system on which you will be able to compile an iso you like ;-)
09:59 < Auzain> every I look, all iso are from 5/5/2003
10:01 < esden> yes the desktop iso ...
10:01 * -> esden off -> hunting
10:02 < Auzain> I think daja77 have a new version, but he keep it for him ;-)
10:03 < blindcoder> moin
10:03 < Auzain> moinmoin
10:04 < blindcoder> finally I got through the new proxy >_<
10:04 < blindcoder> took me bout 2 hours
10:06 * netrunner off -> getting a cooler case for his mp
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11:57 < n00kie> Hola
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14:04 < daja77> moin
14:07 < blindcoder> moin
14:07 < daja77> hi blindcoder :)
14:59 < rolla> re
15:00 < daja77> hi rolla
15:24 < esden> hi ho
15:26 * daja77 grabs esden and having a word with him
15:27 < daja77> :)
15:29 < esden> daja77: ??
15:29 < esden> what have I messed up?
15:30 < daja77> you made me a six year old >_<
15:36 < blindcoder> hi esden
15:37 < rolla> == 08:40:15 =[5]=> Building x11/librsvg [2.2.4 2.0.0-beta4].
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16:01 < daja77> hi Auzain
16:01 < esden> hi blindcoder 
16:01 < esden> blindcoder: where are you?
16:01 < Auzain> ave daja77
16:02 < daja77> Auzain: I saw you had still problems?
16:02 < Auzain> have you somewhere this excelent version of drock beta4?
16:02 < Auzain> yes
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16:03 < Auzain> heute morgen hat man mir davon erzehlt
16:03 < daja77> Auzain: installing the gem package din't help?
16:04 < Auzain> no, I doesn't provide stubs.h
16:04 < daja77> O_o ?
16:04 < daja77> what have you done with it?
16:05 < esden> daja77: that are bogons he is sending out ;-)
16:05 < Auzain> mine -i ns....
16:05 < esden> Auzain: mine -i -R / glibc.gem 
16:05 < esden> that is the right command
16:06 < daja77> esden: would you please change my birth year on the hp :)
16:06 < Auzain> daja77 don't spock me about glibc yesterday but about nss...
16:06 < daja77> mom /me checking
16:06 < Auzain> daja77: is there somewhere drock beta4?
16:07 < daja77> the isos are on my server but the connection is very slow
16:07 < Auzain> the download drock is an old as I understand
16:08 < daja77> it is
16:09 < daja77> I could upload my glibc package if you like
16:11 < Auzain> when will the new drock be downloadable? I can wait
16:11 < daja77> when rxr gets his hds back from ibm :-)
16:12 < Auzain> ?
16:13 < Auzain> then I continue with my old distro
16:13 < blindcoder> esden: work
16:13 < daja77> which old distro?
16:13 < Auzain> sourcemage
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16:15 < daja77> sourcemage, never heard of it
16:16 < daja77> Auzain: try the glibc package first
16:19 < Auzain> daja77: where can I find it?
16:19 < daja77> http://lospalmos.homelinux.net/drock-2.0.0beta/ :)
16:19 < daja77> http://lospalmos.homelinux.net/drock-2.0.0beta4/ even
16:19 < daja77> d'oh
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16:22 < Auzain> daja77: 4%
16:22 < Auzain> very slow...
16:23 < daja77> heh I have only isdn connection here, what do you expect
16:23 < Auzain> DSL
16:23 * daja77 kicks Auzain 
16:24 < Auzain> at home I have only 56Kb
16:24 < daja77> haha
16:24 < daja77> :)
16:24 < Auzain> :-((
16:25 < Auzain> if it doesn't work after this, it lets me more time to translate the doc...
16:25 < daja77> hehe
16:25 < Auzain> sourcemage is a fork of sorcerer like lunar
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16:26 < Auzain> they have good work but the scripts and dependencies are not on top
16:26 < daja77> well all you need is a devfs enabled kernel on your distro to build rock
16:27 < Auzain> I had a look on yours : better
16:28 < daja77> ??
16:28 < Auzain> sourcemage have /dev and /devices and this doesn't help
16:28 < daja77> ahem devfs is a kernel feature which has to be compiled in ...
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16:52 < Auzain> daja77: 100% thank you
16:52 < A-Tui> hi
16:53 < daja77> hey A-Tui
16:53 < daja77> Auzain: np
16:53 < A-Tui> hey hola daja77, how are you?
16:53 < daja77> fine, yesterday was my bad day :))
16:53 < A-Tui> mmm and why?
16:54 < daja77> lots of idiots buggered me with idiotic stuff
16:54 < A-Tui> ops sorry
16:54 < daja77> but now they are all at home, it's friday after all :)
16:54 < A-Tui> hehe yes, be optimist!
16:54 < daja77> :)
16:55 * daja77 watching realtime rocklinux build ...
16:55 < A-Tui> hehe, that's fun :)
16:56 < daja77> yeah + I have another build running at home
16:57 < A-Tui> my build crashed :(
16:57 < A-Tui> i'm going to start a new one
16:57 < daja77> completely?
16:57 < A-Tui> well not completely
16:57 < daja77> which rev?
16:58 < A-Tui> but i updated sources for rock and now i can build the old one
16:58 < daja77> svn or cvs?
16:58 < A-Tui> svn
16:59 < Auzain> bis bald
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16:59 < daja77> okis, then have fun
16:59 < A-Tui> yesterday a had my last exam, so now i can have fun with rock :)
17:00 < daja77> great, you are welcome
17:00 < A-Tui> :)
17:01 < A-Tui> first i must look why build script hangs
17:03 < daja77> good idea
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17:21 < rolla> == 10:25:32 =[5]=> Building gnome2/mergeant011 [0.11.0 2.0.0-beta4].
17:22 < rolla> 1-linux25.err  5-e.err  5-imlib2_loaders.err  5-k3b.err  5-linux25.err
17:25 < daja77> cu later
17:27 < A-Tui> bye daja77
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17:59 < andi5> hi. could somebody please give me a simple answer? i am trying to get rock20 with svn. so i built subversion -> /opt/apache/bin/svn checkout http://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk test -> svn: Bad URL passed to RA layer. did i build the wrong thing?
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18:16 < rolla> == 11:18:21 =[5]=> Building gnome2/gdm24 [2.4.1.3 2.0.0-beta4].
18:44 < rxr> re
18:45 < Mike1> hi all
18:55 < daja77> *yeehah* this is /me from my granny's box
18:55 < daja77> hi Mike1
18:56 < daja77> she seems to like kde
18:57 < rolla> == 11:58:21 =[5]=> Building x11/mozilla [1.3.1 2.0.0-beta4].
19:10 < Mike1> congratz daja77
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19:16 < owl> hi
19:17 < Mike1> owly.
19:17 < Mike1> ping aszlig
19:18 < owl> hi Mike1 :)
19:18 < owl> greety from espana ;p
19:18 < Mike1> owl: what did i told you ? "Saludos desde Espana"
19:19 < owl> Mike1: bllllll :p
19:19 < Mike1> :PP
19:20 < owl> how are zou, Miguel?
19:20 < owl> (gnaaaa. spanish kezboard - i will never learn it)
19:20 < Mike1> i\m good thanks, a bit sleep (as always) but fine, and yourself?
19:20 < owl> sleep. and burned... (sun... zou know)
19:21 < owl> (and a bit feeling mz bodz.... cuy i did horse-riding again, todaz) ;)
19:21 < netrunner> note to owl: check your keymap
19:22 < owl> netrunner: aehm... iÇm using win... and there is spanish-kezboard set...
19:23 < Mike1> owl: you suck... you suck...
19:23 < Mike1> :P
19:23 < owl> Mike1: whz? ;)
19:24 < Mike1> owl: you should have take ur asus with you
19:24 < Mike1> and not use win..
19:24 < Mike1> ah wait, you also run win in ur laptop, nevermind :P
19:24 < owl> Mike1: i donÇt use win...
19:24 < owl> (on notebook)
19:24 < Mike1> :P
19:25 < owl> hm.
19:25 < Mike1> owl: i'm just teasing you dear
19:25 < Mike1> don't be upset
19:25 < owl> Mike1: *kikc*
19:25 < Mike1> :P
19:25 < owl> hrmpf :p
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19:27 < Mike1> hi Ale.
19:27 < owl> hi mnemoc
19:28 < mnemoc> hi :)
19:28 < mnemoc> 2.4.21 released
19:28 < Mike1> good
19:28 < Mike1> :)
19:28 < mnemoc> bad! :(
19:28 < Mike1> mnemoc: provide update patch
19:28 < mnemoc> i hoped official release would support gcc33 :(
19:28 < Mike1> i know you hate recompiling kernel hehe
19:28 < mnemoc> Mike1: i'm just doing that
19:29 < owl> gcc33?
19:29 < Mike1> it doesn't?
19:29 < owl> gcc2,gcc3,gcc33 in rock?
19:29 < Mike1> owl: yea, where have you been ? in the woods?
19:29 < Mike1> *ggg*
19:29 < Mike1> ah no in spain :)
19:30 < owl> Mike1: nope. iÇm a=) not reading RML anzmore (cuy of vacation), b) not having a look to rocklinux.org c) having no look to the sourc3e
19:30 < Mike1> funny stuff, we run 3 bdb versions, 3 gcc versions, 2 glibc versions, 2 gnome versions, are we going in the right way?
19:31 < mnemoc> gcc33 will become gcc3 when everything builds with it
19:31 < Mike1> owl: gcc33 have been around even before you left, but anyways, you will look at it when you are back i guess
19:31 < owl> _when_ everzthing builds with it...
19:32 < owl> Mike1: *rofl* having a look to rock-src? nope. and: /me has gcc-3.3 alreadz downloaded
19:32 < Mike1> ok
19:33 < mnemoc> owl everything (stages 0-4) but the kernel currently builds with gcc33
19:33 < Mike1> mnemoc: kernel 2.4 or 2.5?
19:33 < mnemoc> i'll hotfix the kernel these days
19:34 < mnemoc> at least 2.4 ;)
19:34 < mnemoc> haven't checked regression tests
19:34 < owl> hmmmm.
19:35 < mnemoc> 2.5.70 is out too
19:35 < blindcoder> hi hi ani rehi
19:35 < mnemoc> wb blindcoder
19:36 < owl> hi blindcoder !
19:36 < blindcoder> hi owl
19:37 < rolla> re alll
19:37 < Mike1> wb rolla
19:37 < rolla> == 11:58:21 =[5]=> Building x11/mozilla [1.3.1 2.0.0-beta4].
19:37 < rolla> yawn
19:37 < owl> hi rolla
19:37 < rolla> re owl nice to see you back
19:38 < mnemoc> hi rolla
19:38 < rolla> mnemoc: was gibt's?
19:38 < mnemoc> gibt?
19:39 * Mike1 wonders when will rock have support for raid5 stuff...
19:40 < owl> .oO(never)
19:40 < rolla> mnemoc: sorry. what is up?
19:40 < Mike1> owl: i would do it if i had time
19:40 < mnemoc> Mike1: an stone interface?
19:40 < Mike1> mnemoc: no, in the install disks
19:40 < mnemoc> it doesn't?
19:41 < Mike1> no.
19:41 < mnemoc> rolla: everything coll here :D
19:41 < Mike1> i need to install 2 servers and this si stopping me
19:43 < mnemoc> raiduitls is built on stage 5
19:43 < Mike1> mnemoc: we are not talking about raidtools
19:43 < Mike1> mnemoc: i am talking about raid5.o lvm.o ...
19:43 < mnemoc> kernel? ... what part of 'raid'
19:43 < mnemoc> mmm....
19:43 < Mike1> kernel stuff not apps stuff
19:44 < rxr> Mike1: the default kernel has this ...
19:44 < Mike1> rxr: revision?
19:44 < Mike1> rxr: it doesn't seem to work for me here
19:44 < mnemoc> kernel builds everymodule.... that's why i took 6 hours to build it
19:45 < rxr> Mike1: last months ...
19:45 < rxr> mnemoc: jups - but not all modules are on the bootdisk ...
19:45 < Mike1> mnemoc: but not all of them are included in the install disks
19:45 < rxr> (hm - or are all in stage2 ??? I need to check ..)
19:45 < owl> hi rxr
19:45 < Mike1> rxr: well i'm trying to load rock on Dell Power Edge 2500
19:46 < rxr> Mike1:
19:46 < rxr> dnl Enable software-raid
19:46 < rxr> dnl
19:46 < rxr> CONFIG_MD=y
19:46 < rxr> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD=y
19:46 < rxr> CONFIG_MD_LINEAR=y
19:46 < Mike1> but of course this _@#$%_ issue is not helping at all
19:46 < rxr> CONFIG_MD_RAID0=y
19:46 < rxr> CONFIG_MD_RAID1=y
19:46 < mnemoc> Mike1: you are right!!!
19:46 < rxr> CONFIG_MD_RAID5=y
19:46 < rxr> CONFIG_MD_MULTIPATH=m
19:46 < rxr> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LVM=y
19:46 < rxr> the kernel _has_ it ...
19:46 < Mike1> rxr: desktops kernel you mean?
19:47 < rxr> nope this the default#
19:47 < Mike1> mm...
19:47 < Mike1> cheching..
19:47 < Mike1> s/h/k
19:47 < rxr> on my server and my iBook I can verify that this is also build correctly into the kernel ...
19:50 < Mike1> mm... ok i will check it out more carefully
19:56 < netrunner> hm ... gsmp.tfh-berlin.de is unreachable.
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19:57 < rxr> netrunner: Y
19:57 < rxr> yes
19:57 < rxr> I have the box on my knees and a screwdriver in my hand ...
19:57 * rxr grummeling ...
19:57 < rxr> *shit damn x86 low-cost crap ....
19:58 < Mike1> *g*
19:58 < rxr> netrunner: I only wanted to install a new HD ...
19:59 < rxr> netrunner: I hope I can get into the university tomorrow. If yes it will be online tomorrow around 12 o'clock
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20:02 < netrunner> rxr: I am missing rockplug here, and gd.tuwien... 'has moved', and on leo it is not found.
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20:03 < blindcoder> hmm... this machine can't stand high IDE-I/O
20:03 < blindcoder> but I think that's normal
20:03 < owl> #define people shit
20:03 < mnemoc> rxr: can you show last failures on 'arch' page on the regression tests? two clicks are too much for 'a view'
20:04 < Freak> #define owl knatschigaberdasisjawohlnormaloder
20:04 < rxr> mnemoc: ok - I'll do this later ;-)
20:04 < mnemoc> rxr: thanks :)
20:04 < owl> Freak: nah. iÇm not knatischig.
20:05 < netrunner> maybe someone want's to update linux24 ?
20:05 < mnemoc> (create chksum for kernel is slow as hell :( )
20:05 < rxr> netrunner: http://schillernet.dyndns.org/rock-linux/
20:05 < rxr> a temporary copy for rockplug ...
20:05 < Freak> owl: no, just normal like you always are.
20:06 < netrunner> rxr: thx
20:06 < owl> Freak: zou even donÇt know me. so zou canÇt know how i am alwazs
20:09 < Freak> owl: well a gurl like you who calls me $whatever every second day just can't be worth knowing better. and I don't think there is anything more to know than the fact that you are negative, self-destructive and hating.
20:10 < owl> Freak: might i have mz reasons for that
20:10 < rxr> Mike1: how is your raid doing ?
20:10 < Mike1> not good at all
20:11 < Mike1> rxr: i will run a new build and see what happens, it will be just a matter of hours
20:11 < Mike1> not longer than 1 day
20:12 < Mike1> rxr: stone doesn't recognize my rd for installation
20:12 < Freak> owl: sure. self-pity.
20:12 < owl> Freak: *ARGH*
20:12 < Mike1> are us this stuff is included _in_ the _bootdisk_ target?
20:12 < Mike1> hi Freaky
20:13 < Freak> hey Mike1
20:13 < rxr> Mike1: ??
20:14 < Mike1> rxr: i don't know the damn thing will recognize my raid
20:14 < Mike1> will not*
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20:14 < Mike1> blindy.
20:15 < Mike1> rxr: i'll just run yet another build and see what happens.
20:15 < rxr> I got it this far - but you said:
20:15 < rxr> 20:12 < Mike1> are us this stuff is included _in_ the _bootdisk_ target?
20:15 < Freak> owl: I do not want to talk to you in private nor in msg.
20:16 < owl> Freak: aha. because zouÇre ignorant
20:16 < owl> great
20:16 < owl> goodbzew
20:16 < Freak> n/m
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20:17 < Mike1> rxr: i mean is the raid* lvm* stuff included in the install disks kernel?
20:17 < rxr> you mean the user space progs?
20:17 < Freak> Mike1: at least she has new quitmsgs everytime she leaves, huh ;)
20:18 < Mike1> rxr: no i mean the modules to recognize such kind of hardware so stone will recognize my "hard disk" to install
20:19 * Mike1 getting frustrated
20:20 < rxr> they are build into the kernel - not as modules ...
20:20 < Mike1> still it is not working..
20:20 < Mike1> we will see after my new build is over
20:21 -!- Pita [~trillian@x203136-7.shuis-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #rocklinux
20:21 < Pita> hey guys
20:21 < Pita> its me again
20:21 < Pita> I need help with linux again
20:21 < Mike1> welcome Pita
20:21 < Pita> now with the scripts after the installation of the packages
20:22 < Pita> its fucking hard to install this cheat but I am going to win the fight
20:23 < Mike1> no one said would be easy, but once you acomplish to build / install it, you get a great feeling and nice amount of knowledge
20:23 < Pita> thats what I hope
20:23 < Pita> really i am so anxious to have it running
20:24 < Mike1> no worries the fun won't be over once you install it :)
20:24 < Pita> cool
20:25 < Pita> regarding the scipts
20:25 < Pita> I runned all oif them
20:25 < Pita> but I am lost wioth the lilo.conf
20:25 < Mike1> whats the problem with it?
20:25 < Pita> how do I edit it ?
20:26 < Mike1> edit lilo.conf?
20:26 < Pita> really ?
20:26 < Mike1> vi /etc/lilo.conf
20:26 < Mike1> i'm not sure i'm getting ur question
20:26 < Pita> it doesnt recognise the vi command
20:27 < Pita> any special thing with the scripts ?
20:27 < Pita> should I run them all ?
20:27 < rxr> Pita: normally you have a STONE module that creates the lilo file and installs it ...
20:27 < Pita> yes
20:27 < rxr> (but GRUB is better anyway ...)
20:27 < Pita> easy man
20:27 < Pita> I am a newby
20:27 < Mike1> rxr: he is not running 1.7/ 2.0 i think
20:27 < Pita> no
20:28 < Pita> i am running 1.4.0
20:28 < Mike1> 0_o
20:28 < Pita> i know its old but is the starting point
20:28 < Mike1> its been quite a while
20:28 < Pita> in id
20:28 < Pita> did
20:29 < rxr> ok - new gsmp.tfh-berlin.de server hardware finished ...
20:30 < Mike1> rxr: good. :)
20:31 < Pita> so I run all the scripts and at the end try to edit the lilo.conf is that right ?
20:31 < Mike1> Pita: yeah
20:31 < Pita> using simply edit lilo.conf ?
20:31 < Mike1> Pita: you should be able to do that by doing:
20:32 < Pita> shouldnt I put the complete path to the lilo.conf file ?
20:32 < Mike1> cd /trg ; chroot . /bin/bash --login
20:32 < Pita> oki let me try
20:32 < Mike1> then you will be in ur just installed system so you can 'vi /etc/lilo.conf'
20:33 < Pita> k
20:33 < Pita> its still installing
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20:33 < Mike1> Pita: i'm not sure but you might need to run 'mount /dev' and 'mount /proc' before running 'lilo' to apply the changes you did on /etc/lilo.conf
20:33 < Pita> in some scripts I say yes but Ive no idea what r for
20:34 < Mike1> Pita: when you don't know what to say / do, use the defaults :)
20:34 < Pita> so I edit the lilo and then just run those commands ?
20:34 < Pita> enter then
20:34 < Mike1> yeah :)
20:34 < Pita> k
20:42 < Pita> is there a . in the chroot command
20:43 < Mike1> just do as i said and i will know what to do :)
20:43 < Pita> k
20:43 < Mike1> i promise :)
20:43 < Pita> when doing the chroot command I get
20:43 < Pita> no such file or directory
20:44 < Mike1> did you cd /trg first?
20:44 < Pita> yes
20:45 < rxr> wow  - www.kernel.org is nearly down due to the new major version and the additional slashdot effect ...
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20:45 < Mike1> urgs
20:46 < Pita> there is no bash insid the bin directory
20:46 < Mike1> mm..
20:47 < Mike1> is install finished ?
20:47 < mnemoc> rxr: i could send you the tarball but i guess i'm slower than the colapsed mirrors :)
20:47 < Mike1> mnemoc: hehe
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20:48 < Pita> sure
20:48 < Pita> instaling the pakages I mean´
20:48 < Mike1> finishe everything
20:48 < Mike1> then do what i said
20:49 * Mike1 back to raid5 fight
20:50 < Pita> I did
20:50 < Pita> i get
20:50 < Pita> no such file or directopry
20:58 < Pita> ???
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21:10 < Pita> mike1 still there ?
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21:42 < Pita> mike 1 ????
21:42 < Mike1> re.
21:43 < Mike1> Pita: ?
21:43 < Pita> can we resart again ?
21:44 < Pita> when I do the chroot command I get no such file or directory
21:44 < Mike1> mm..
21:44 < Mike1> weird
21:45 < Mike1> can you paste the full error message please
21:45 < Pita> thats it
21:45 < Pita> no such file or directory
21:45 < Pita> I do the command inside the -trg
21:45 < Mike1> does /trg exist?
21:45 < Pita> yes /trg exists
21:45 < Pita> and the bin also exists
21:45 < Mike1> is /trg empty?
21:45 < Mike1> mm..
21:45 < Pita> but there is no bash inside bin
21:46 < Mike1> is the any sh ?
21:46 < Pita> Install the pakages and then run the scripts
21:46 < Pita> then change to /trg
21:46 < Pita> then do chroot command and I get that erro
21:46 < Mike1> tell me does /trg/bin/sh exist?
21:47 < rxr> this DNAT is in some way strange - it doesn not work here ...
21:47 < Mike1> rxr: ?
21:47 < Pita> yes
21:47 < Mike1> puta ok try chroot . /bin/sh --login
21:47 < Pita> aand also a sh_pdksh
21:47 < Mike1> sh soul dbe fine
21:47 < Pita> lolol
21:47 < Mike1> should.
21:47 < rxr> Mike1:
21:48 < rxr> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 8080 -j DNAT --to-dest 192.168.1.200:80
21:48 < rxr> shouldn't this thow all port 8080 stuff to 192.168.1.200:80 ??
21:48 < Mike1> rxr: s/ --to-dest / --to
21:49 < SMP> hi Rene
21:49 < Mike1> with that you are redirecting all entrances to eth1 on port 8080 to 192.168.1.200 port 80, is that what you want?
21:49 < Mike1> rxr: tell me what you wanna do and i will try to help
21:50 < Mike1> hi SMP
21:50 < rxr> I want incomming tcp stuff on port 8080 go to an another box at port 80 ...
21:50 < Pita> same error
21:50 < Pita> no susch file or directory
21:50 < rxr> hi SMP
21:51 < Mike1> Pita: mm... restart installation, let me know when i run "Install" so i can tell you some hints
21:51 < Pita> restart instalationm with Install ?=
21:51 < Mike1> rxr: it should be iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -p tcp -i eth0 --dport 8080 -j DNAT --to 192.168.1.200:80
21:52 < Pita> that will install the pakages again
21:52 < Mike1> rxr: you can replace -i eth0 for -d <public-ip> if you want
21:52 < Pita> is that what u want ?
21:52 < Mike1> Pita, i want you to reboot the computer and reformat your hardistk
21:52 * SMP can't find 'logout' in ru_RU@UTF-8 Gnome ;-O
21:52 < Mike1> and start a new installation
21:52 < Mike1> SMP: 0_o
21:53 < Pita> k
21:53 < rxr> Mike1: no this server has a dynamic IP ... - and btw I do not want to optimize it - it should just start to work ...
21:53 < rxr> SMP: can you help with iptables DNAT ?
21:53 < Mike1> Pita: when you are inside the ROCK Linux install shell run "select */*" before "install"
21:53 < Pita> my HD doesnt take it all
21:53 < Pita> I cannot do that
21:53 < SMP> rxr: no, sorry, used iptables twice in my life and every time I just typed stuff from the howto ;)
21:54 < rxr> yeah - but the stuff from the howto does not work for me ... :-(
21:54 < Mike1> rxr: well if your kernel was compiled properly it should work
21:55 < rxr> if the kernel was not compiled properly iptables would not let insert me the rule ...
21:55 < Mike1> true.
21:55 < rxr> and masquerading worked before ...
21:55 < SMP> rxr: does one of the iptables commands succeed?
21:55 < SMP> ah
21:55 < rxr> SMP: jups all
21:55 < SMP> so the rule is there but it 'does not work'?
21:55 < rxr> SMP: yes
21:55 < Mike1> rxr: mm... weird.
21:56 < rxr> it also increases the package cound and transfered size - but it is not arriving at the second box ...
21:56 < SMP> what rules are in REROUTING before that one?
21:56 < SMP> ah
21:56 < Mike1> rxr: i asume you are trying from a box which is not behind the masquerating of that box
21:56 < SMP> s,RE,PRE,
21:56 < Pita> is the mke2fs the format command for partitions ?
21:56 < SMP> rxr: maybe some outbound rule on the inside eats the packets?
21:56 < Mike1> Pita: for the / partiton yes
21:56 < rxr> nothing - I only have masquerading in the POSTROUTING
21:57 < Pita> k
21:57 < Mike1> Pita: don't forget to create ur swal
21:57 < Mike1> Pita: in the install shell at least do 'select base/*'
21:59 < SMP> rxr: I need to know why you run the make install in gkrellm
21:59 < SMP> ehm
21:59 < SMP> rxr: with PACKAGE=""
22:00 < rxr> hm - I do not remember anymore ...
22:00 < rxr> some path thing or so ...
22:02 < Pita> ok I just started the Install
22:02 < Pita> the default is 142 pakages selected from a total of 252
22:02 < Pita> 256
22:03 * blindcoder off to bed
22:03 < Mike1> do a select base/*
22:03 < blindcoder> gn8
22:03 < Mike1> n8 blindy
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22:04 < Pita> k
22:04 < Pita> continue with install ?
22:05 < SMP> wtf.
22:06 < netrunner> re
22:06 < Mike1> yes
22:06 < Pita> is that yes for me
22:06 < Pita> ?
22:07 < SMP> WTF
22:08 < Mike1> Pita: yeah
22:08 < SMP> HAHAHA
22:08 < Mike1> SMP: ?
22:09 < Pita> installing
22:10 < Mike1> Pita: good (cross fingers)
22:14 < netrunner> hm ... for a new package ... do I have to insert a line into the targets or is that done by target maintainers?
22:16 < rxr> netrunner: hm? into what target do you want to add a line for a package ?
22:19 < netrunner> rxr: oh, i want to add a package. now I want to make sure someone uses my package by including it into some targets ... maybe the patterns that are there will match, I'll check that.
22:19 < mnemoc> netrunner: generic and reference targets select packages by the priority field and .desc files. minimal and bootdisk use stages, the other are responsability of their mantainers
22:20 < mnemoc> s/field and /field in/
22:21 < mnemoc> X: include, O: exlude by default
22:27 < rxr> netrunner:  the general target build all
22:27 < rxr> all the other only selected stuff ...
22:28 < netrunner> rxr: thx, just found that :)
22:28 < Mike1> Pita: how is install doing?
22:28 * netrunner 's dual athlon now in a new case cooled by 6 fans seems to fight bravely against the heat
22:29 < Pita> let me see
22:29 < Pita> oki
22:29 < Pita> its done
22:30 < Pita> run scripts ?
22:30 < Mike1> yes
22:30 < Pita> k
22:32 < Pita> done
22:33 < Pita> change to /trg and run chroot ?
22:33 < SMP> aarrgh
22:33 < Mike1> Pita: yeah
22:35 < Pita> se same fucking error again
22:35 < Pita> no such file or directory
22:35 < Mike1> mm..
22:35 < Pita> what a fuck
22:35 < Pita> try with sh ?
22:35 < Mike1> yeah
22:36 < SMP> aahrrghh!
22:36 < Mike1> SMP: are you ok?
22:37 < daja77> re
22:38 < mnemoc> Pita: can you ldd bash?
22:38 < Pita> idd ?
22:38 < mnemoc> ldd
22:38 < SMP> el-dd
22:38 < mnemoc> :)
22:38 < Pita> how do I use that
22:38 < SMP> but that doesn't help unless he's chrooted there
22:38 < mnemoc> can't you give a 'root' to ldd?
22:39 < Pita> i get always get no such file or directory no mwtter if it is bash or sh
22:39 < mnemoc> i vote for glibc :)
22:39 < SMP> what's the error message _exactly_?
22:40 < Pita> sh: chroot.-bin-bash : no such file or directory
22:41 < mnemoc> chroot /bin/ls?
22:41 < Pita> sh: chroot./bin/bash: no such file or directory
22:41 < SMP> and what command are you typing _exactly_?
22:41 < Pita> cd -trg
22:41 < Pita> cd /trg
22:41 < Pita> chroot./bin/bash --login
22:42 < SMP> you need spaces around the -
22:42 < SMP> the .
22:42 < daja77> 106 new mails on the list wtf
22:42 < Pita> so
22:42 < Pita> chroot . /bin/bash --login ?
22:42 < SMP> yes
22:42 < mnemoc> doh
22:43 < mnemoc> Pita: you were trying to execute '--login' inside a jail around /bin/bash :|
22:43 < Pita> urraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
22:43 < Pita> I got
22:43 < Pita> mounting dev
22:43 < Pita> and
22:43 < Pita> mounting proc
22:44 < Pita> is it ok ?
22:44 < Pita> i just tyoed what mike1 told me to
22:44 < Pita> typed
22:44 < mnemoc> you miss the spaces
22:45 < mnemoc> btw, Mike is THE bug
22:45 < Pita> lololo
22:47 < Mike1> mnemoc: how did you know?
22:47 < Mike1> :)
22:47 < mnemoc> you told me ;)
22:48 < Mike1> :PP
22:48 < mnemoc> when you reclute me for the 'broken rock, desstabilization project'
22:48 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB31E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
22:49 < daja77> .oO 2.4.21 came out and kernel.org is down
22:49 < daja77> no works again
22:50 < daja77> rxr: are you updating  to it?
22:50 < mnemoc> i'm builing it :)
22:50 < daja77> :)
22:50 < tcr> rxr: ping
22:50 < mnemoc> the patch is on the list since 4 hours ago
22:51 < mnemoc> including checksum of course :)
22:51 * daja77 fighting through the list >_<
22:51 < rxr> tcr: /me busy - is there s.th. important ?
22:52 < rxr> mnemoc: I'll apply it, but currently I have some major network config stuff to do ..
22:52 < tcr> rxr: Relatively, but it can wait. I'll leave at 23:00 anyway; will you be here tommorrow?
22:52 < mnemoc> i'm happyly building it, tcr wants it
22:52 < mnemoc> s/tcr/daja
22:53 < tcr> mnemoc: :P
22:53 < tcr> I do want it too ;)
22:53 < mnemoc> :)
22:53 < rxr> tcr: yes I will be here - what is the topic?
22:53 < daja77> mnemoc: I can wait, rtai patches for 2.4.21 will take some days I guess
22:54 < mnemoc> too late for your porject?
22:54 < Pita> hey
22:54 < tcr> rxr: I'll be at berlin for monday till friday
22:54 < daja77> mnemoc: dunno, /me started a build today with 2.4.20, maybe I'll do another, maybe not
22:54 < Pita> i just edited the lilo.conf acording to a configurqation suplied by a friend
22:54 < Pita> what now ?
22:55 < mnemoc> lilo -v -v
22:55 < Pita> thats a command ?
22:55 < daja77> yes
22:56 < Pita> i got a fatal
22:56 < Pita> no images have been found
22:56 < Pita> what could it be ?
22:56 < daja77> wrong config
22:57 * Mike1 remembers there was a bug in /etc/lilo.conf back in the 1.4 days
22:57 < Mike1> it must be rebuild manually.
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22:57 < Pita> how
22:57 < Mike1> chroot stuff used to work for me..
22:57 < daja77> Pita: you can't take the config of a friend without checking if it matches your system
22:58 < Pita> here is my lilo.conf
22:58 < daja77> no!
22:58 < mnemoc> nooooooooooo!!!!
22:58 < Mike1> >>>> DON'T PASTE IT <<<<
22:58 < Mike1> thanks you.
22:58 < Pita> why not ?
22:59 < mnemoc> /query Mike1
22:59 < daja77> we don't like chan flooding
22:59 < Mike1> mnemoc: you will die for this.
22:59 < mnemoc> :P
22:59 < daja77> hehehe
22:59 < tfing> daja77: who does ? :)
22:59 < Pita> its only 143 lines
22:59 < Pita> 14
22:59 < daja77> tfing: Mike1, mnemoc and me
22:59 < Mike1> 143 lines!
22:59 < tcr> Pita: You really should do you homeworks yourself. There are plenty of places where you can get your needed information, aren't there? :)
22:59 < Pita> i called image=/boot/vmlinuz
23:00 < Pita> could this be the problem ?
23:00 < Pita> is the opinion from tcr commomn to all of you ?
23:01 < Mike1> tcr: shut up.
23:01 < Pita> if it is I just leave all of u alone
23:01 * SMP knows how to use /ignore when it gets too annoying
23:01 < Mike1> Pita: no. Lets see shwo me your root
23:01 < Mike1> SMP: well said :)
23:01 < Mike1> Pita: you don't bother us, we will try to help you
23:02 < Pita> i am sorry for being so fucking newby
23:02 < Mike1> Pita: of course be patient, we are busy people. :)
23:02 < Pita> i see
23:02 < rxr> tcr: oh - I'm really really busy ...
23:02 < Mike1> Pita: nothing to be sorry for, i'm a newbie too
23:02 < Pita> what should I do now
23:02 < tcr> Pita: I don't want to be rude, and you may ask questions, but should ask them smartly (and there's even a howto for that purpose)
23:02 < rxr> I do not know if I can find a slot for a meeting ...
23:02 < Mike1> tcr: _shut_ up
23:03 < Pita> íf I have found a know to decente I would not be here
23:03 < Mike1> Pita: its quite a stange your problem, would you consider to install a newer version of rock?
23:03 < Pita> but there no Knowto basic enough
23:03 < Pita> its a very old machine
23:03 < Pita> I also have the 1.6.0
23:03 < Mike1> Pita: honestly 1.4 have at least 2 or 3 years old..
23:03 < Mike1> yes install that one
23:03 < Pita> but it boots and when I run linux it just restarts
23:04 < Mike1> 1.6?
23:04 < Pita> yep
23:04 < Mike1> what kind of box is it? (processor)
23:05 < Pita> lolol
23:05 < Pita> Pi 166MHz with 64 MB of mem
23:05 < Mike1> and what is the optimization for the iso you are using?
23:05 < tcr> rxr: Hmm, would be a pity. Maybe we can just eat something or so.. but if you're really busy, I don't want to disturb your schedule
23:05 < Pita> i want to lear first linux before I move to install it on my P4 2.4GHz
23:05 < Mike1> rxr is _always_ busy.
23:06 < Pita> optimization ?
23:06 < Pita> i just downloaded the iso and burn the cd
23:06 < tcr> SMP: I consider /ignore to me a very impolite way of showing pure arrogance.
23:06 < tcr> to be
23:06 < Mike1> Pita: it should say something like rock-1.6.0pre3-i586... or so
23:06 < SMP> tcr: yes, good enough for me ;>
23:06 < Pita> its the pre3
23:06 < Mike1> SMP: looks like you have a candidate for ur /ignore ..
23:07 < Mike1> tcr: jk
23:07 < tcr> Ok, I must leave now. rxr: let's talk about that tomorrow
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23:08 < SMP> hmm, :help in gvim still broken
23:08 < SMP> for no reason
23:09 < daja77> even :help uganda ?
23:10 < SMP> E149: Sorry, no help for uganda
23:10 < SMP> but that's a different error ;)
23:10 < SMP> vim's looking for the vim61 help.txt
23:10 < daja77> strange, poor kids in uganda getting no money this year cos vim is borken
23:11 < Pita> im so funking frustraded
23:13 < Pita> i was hoping to be a lot easier this fight agaist linnux
23:14 < rxr> Pita: you should not have choosen this old and broken version ...
23:14 < Pita> witch one should I try then ?
23:14 < Pita> 1.6.0 pre 3 ?
23:15 < Pita> I know 2.0 is to much for my poor machine
23:15 < rxr> nope _no_ vanilla ROCK Linux 1.6 ...
23:16 < rxr> take Desktop ROCK Linux 1.6.1-rcX ....
23:16 < rxr> the short name is dRock ...
23:16 < Pita> where do I get that ?
23:17 < Pita> drock 1.6.ç1 was canceled
23:18 < Pita> is this the one ?
23:18 < daja77> what is AKK in the linuxtag config?
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23:27 < Pita> where can I get the drock 1.6.1 ???
23:32 < daja77> WEEE I am through the mail, and replied to ripclaw ...
23:33 < daja77> I guess the last good deed for today would be resending my patch
23:33 < tfing> hmm, got a pb with packaging a program
23:33 < tfing> the pb of scrollkeeps shared file
23:34 < tfing> i included the scrollkeeper.conf which is supposed to solved the pb, but it doesn't
23:34 < tfing> flistdel="$flistdel|var/.*/scrollkeeper/scrollkeeper_docs"
23:34 < tfing> and in the flist of the package : gjiten: var/scrollkeeper/scrollkeeper_docs
23:35 < tfing> rxr ?
23:40 < netrunner> q
23:45 < Pita> by
23:45 < Pita> thanks for all
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23:49 < rxr> tfing: hm?
23:51 < tfing> rxr: see above, pb of shared files on a package i'm making
23:51 < rxr> tfing: remove one / :-)
23:51 < tfing> yep, that's what i wanted to do
23:51 < SMP> flistdel is evil
23:51 < tfing> but i wonder if i should remove it on the global scrollkeeper.conf
23:52 < rxr> yes please
23:53 < rxr> the one after .*
23:53 < tfing> ok
23:54 < SMP> rxr: in vim/config.in: 'Build seperate CML and GTK+ binary' - do you mean CLI, not CML?
23:59 -!- Pita [~trillian@x203136-7.shuis-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #rocklinux
23:59 < rxr> it was only intended to mean command-line
23:59 -!- Pita [~trillian@x203136-7.shuis-s.tudelft.nl] has left #rocklinux ()
23:59 < rxr> but command-line-interface is also ok - after all this is onlz a comment ... ;-)
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