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01:21 < rxr> SMP:
01:21 < rxr> SMP: do you need actual error logs?
01:21 < rxr> 696 builds total, 683 completed fine, 13 with errors.
01:21 < rxr> x86
01:23 < rxr> ^- this is rev 519
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01:37 < martin_> good mornig
01:52 < rxr> hi martin_
01:53 < martin_> And were you still in the university?
01:53 < rxr> hm?
01:54 < martin_> did you come in?
01:58 < rxr> No. Those fscked peiple did not let me in ...
02:01 < rxr> I now redirect the traffic fot gsmp.tfh-berln.de thru performer back to me home ...
02:01 < rxr> you can imagine how saturated my DSL line is ...
02:03 < martin_> Hmm, the gsmp does not more run?
02:03 < rxr> hm? Sure it is on-line here at home
02:04 < martin_> And the server at university? Still down for weekend only?
02:05 < rxr> I aliased performer to 141.64.23.9 and Destination-Nerwork-Address-Translate and Masquerade the traffic on performer to my home-server, where I again Destination-Adress-Trnaslate and Masquerate the traffic to the real server
02:05 < rxr> the real server is the real gsmp, which I carried to university today just for fun ...
02:06 < rxr> and yes at 8 o'clock monday morning this fscked box will be in the UNI again ...
02:07 < martin_> ok
02:08 < martin_> What about the iBook? Still work? I have no time to take it home in the last days :(
02:08 < rxr> and a really bad thing is that this redirection stuff turns all outgoing traffic of gsmp into incomming traffic for the TFH
02:09 < rxr> but it is their problem - I wanted to replace the box there ...
02:09 < martin_> :( But is not realy good
02:09 < rxr> martin_: I used your iBook for some more final tests and debuggin ...
02:10 < rxr> martin_: when I tested the CD I just burn now - the book should be quite ok ... - when would you like to get it back?
02:10 < martin_> ... in the future or in the last days? Hmmm, I miss it.
02:10 < rxr> martin_: I have now choise about the traffic - I need the server ...
02:11 < rxr> martin_: you english is quite messy I do not get the meaning of some details ... - do you mean you have no time in the upcomming days to get it back - or where is the problem here ?
02:12 < martin_> I don't know. When rock realy work good. Or monday. Hmm, i don't know
02:12 < martin_> rxr: Englsih ... *brrr
02:12 < martin_> :(
02:12 < martin_> Hmm, I have no time to come around.
02:13 < rxr> have or had ?
02:13 < martin_> I'm each day only against 24 o'clock at home
02:14 < martin_> rxr: de: habe keine zeit. zu oft zu spaet zu hause.
02:21 < martin_> good night Rene
02:23 * martin_ is sleeping now (away)
02:27 < rxr> cu martin_
02:27 < rxr> n8 - I'm off to bed in some minutes, too ...
02:35 < rxr> martin_: I now disabled read access for the fat ISO files ...
02:35 < rxr> I hope this will reduce the bandwith troube
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09:17 < martin> re
09:18 < netrunner> wow ... opened the windows .... cpu temp sunk by 3 degs :)
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09:58 < n00kie> Hi
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11:00 < tcr> moin all
11:00 < tcr> daja77: ping
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12:15 < daja77> moin
12:23 < A-Tui> hola daja77 :)
12:23 < daja77> hola A-Tui
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12:27 < daja77> hi tcr
12:30 < tcr> hi daja77
12:30 * tcr is downloading all packages right now
12:31 < daja77> tcr: why you pinged me?
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13:34 < reenoo> hi
13:36 < daja77> hi reenoo
13:40 < reenoo> what was it that you guys where using lcdproc for? displaying info on the build process or something?
13:40 < tcr> yap
13:41 < reenoo> I'm working on the addition of LDAP support for LCDd... thought you might be interested ;)
13:42 < reenoo> (single place to store the configuration for several LCDd's)
13:44 < tcr> hmm. thinking of cluster builds, this might be useful.
13:44 < tcr> however, esden encountered design-technical problems on 2.0 for that lcdproc thingie, iirc. I don't know whether he plans to continue on that subject
13:46 < reenoo> oh
13:51 < tcr> maybe you want to dig in ;)
13:52 < reenoo> well... the question is whether it's about design issues with the server/protocol or with the client you use...
13:53 < reenoo> on the client side python "bindings" I've written might become useful
13:53 < reenoo> it makes writing clients as simple as writing gtk apps
13:54 < reenoo> no tcp socket to deal with, no need to read replies from LCDd, nothing :)
13:59 < n00kie> Mike1: ping
14:27 < rxr> re
14:30 < daja77> wb rxr
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15:17 < alexander> Hi. all
15:18 < alexander> Is there any way to update using svn?
15:21 < tfing> svn up
15:23 < alexander> tfing, just svn up. I tried svn up https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk
15:23 < tfing> just svn up
15:23 < tfing> in the rock-trunk/ directory
15:24 < alexander> tfing. Oki :)
15:41 < rxr> hi alexander
15:42 < rxr> alexander: you complaint about the speed yesterday ...
15:42 < alexander> rxr. Well, now i got the update to work. It took about 10 minutes to get the source tree from start :)
15:42 < alexander> rxr, i think im used to having a fast internet line :)
15:42 < rxr> normally it is much faster, but I route the gsmp.thf-berlin.de traffic back home, since I had to fix the hardware and on the saturday the chair-sitters at the university did not wanted to let me in ...
15:43 < alexander> rxr, oki :)
15:43 < rxr> I already disabled the wohle drock area on the server since this really saturaed my line - all will be back to normal tomorrow ...
15:44 < alexander> rxr, well im sucessfully building now.. Well, at least i can build and se what happens :)
15:44 < alexander> rxr, need to get some new hardware to try the cluster build
15:45 < rxr> cool /me tried watching mpeg decoded on the SPARC via ssh -X on the iBook ;-)
15:45 < alexander> rxr, what time does it take for you to build the while thing and what hardware do you have?
15:45 < alexander> rxr.. LOL. Wow doesnt sound like a great plan
15:46 < rxr> alexander: I normally do not do rebuild stages
15:46 < rxr> a desktop build takes around 2-3 days with rebuild on an Athlon 1700 w/ 512MB RAM
15:47 < alexander> rxr, oki, im currently using an intel celeron 2ghz. But it lacks of diskspace. So im building the minimal system
15:48 < alexander> rxr, the documentation doesnt say much about the software requirements except that it has to be rocklinux. Do you know if the system that you are building on must have devfs like when you build rock 1.4?
15:49 < rxr> yes - devfs is still a must
15:49 < rxr> we consider makinig it optional in 2.1 ...
15:50 < alexander> rxr, oki, because at home i had to run suse to get an rpm working for school. Im planing on letting its cpu join the build when its up. But suse doens come with devfs :(
15:51 < alexander> I took some not about what you need to do on rock-1.4 to build the system. Should i write a patch to the BUILD file ?
15:53 < rxr> alexander: feel free to send a patch for BUILD ...
16:11 < alexander> rxr. Ahh, done :)
16:12 < reenoo> hmm... sf.net's viewcvs still seems somewhat down :(
16:14 < daja77> re
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16:27 < alexander> Anybody have a solution for running nfs like things over a big network. I want to speed up build by adding computers that are across the town to the build. I guess i could tunnel nfs with ssh? any other nice ways?
16:27 < daja77> afs
16:27 < reenoo> yeah
16:28 < reenoo> you can't really tunnel nfs
16:29 < alexander> reenoo, i found some hacks for rpc :).. Dont know if i want to try it
16:29 < alexander> daja77, hmm, but is afs easy to use. I heard that people had real problem with it?
16:29 < daja77> alexander: easy for you or the users?
16:30 < alexander> daja77, well me :). And is it secure?
16:30 < reenoo> yes
16:30 < daja77> well you'll need some time to understand it, but it is worth that time
16:30 < alexander> reenoo, oki, i will give it a try. Does it need kerenl patches?
16:31 < daja77> yes
16:31 < daja77> nah not patches, just modules sorry
16:31 < alexander> Is it this? https://sourceforge.net/projects/ats/
16:31 < alexander> ups wrong url
16:31 < daja77> https://www.openafs.org
16:32 < alexander> hmm, oki, reading/learning, be back in 3 min :)
16:32 < daja77> hehe
16:35 < daja77> *gna* I think I'll upgrade this laptop today, this old fonts just suck
16:36 < reenoo> anybody have evolution 1.2.x installed? (I just removed it while installing 1.4)
16:37 < daja77> I guess I have installed evolution, I just don't use it
16:37 < reenoo> I'd just like to know what it used to dsiplay the integrated help...
16:41 < alexander> Im planing on buying a new computer. Has anybody tried sata onlinux? Cant find any drivers for the promise card?
17:13 < alexander> cya l8er
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17:18 < tcr> rxr: So will you have time or not?
17:25 < rxr> tcr: Lets's wait until my girlfriend is back from vacation in some hours ... I can tell more accurate if I will have time ... ;-)
17:26 < tcr> acknowledged
17:28 < tcr> uff, how much space does a Download -all require?
17:30 < rxr> around 1GB
17:35 < daja77> rxr: ok I set up my first svn repo :)
17:37 < daja77> I am off now to finish the install I started yesterday, cu
17:51 < rxr> cu daja77
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19:12 < LocalHero> Hi all
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19:56 < tfing> rxr: you put xcdroast in the wrong repository
19:56 < tfing> should be in mathieu, not michiel ;)
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20:58 < Pita> can some tell me whats wrong with the iso of RockLinux 1.6.0 Pre 3?
20:58 < Pita> after booting I get run "memtest" and "linux"
20:58 < Pita> if I run "linux" the pc simply reboots
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21:05 < tcr> rxr: is your gf back?
21:06 < n00kie> re
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21:33 < thalerim> hi n00kie, mnemoc
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21:34 < mnemoc> hi tcr
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21:40 < tcr> Download -All took almost 10hours here... Uhmmm
21:40 < mnemoc> mirror=none?
21:41 < tcr> nope, ftl.leo.org has been used as mirror
21:41 < tcr> ftp
21:42 < tcr> Well, I should have run Download -required rather than -all... that would have saved me from downloading kasc/ kde*/ and gnome*/, I guess. However.
21:42 < reenoo> leo is always pretty slooooooow ;)
21:43 < tcr> How did it come that it was selected to be the fastest one?
21:45 < reenoo> maybe the fastest of several slow servers? dunno.
21:45 < reenoo> bbl
21:46 < tcr> Long ago I dig closely into 1.7. Can't remember how the speed is computed (I only know that a file is downloaded from each server. But I'm not sure if the time is counted or something else).
21:47 < tcr> Fact is that ftp.leo.org got the _highest_ value, which would be a wrong selection if really the time was computed.
21:47 < SMP> . o O ( the psi-factor )
21:47 < tcr> . o O ( ? )
21:48 < SMP> "supernatural voodoo"
21:51 < tcr> ah psi power
21:51 < tcr> brb
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21:51 < mnemoc> ot: what had happend with iproute2 project?
21:52 < mnemoc> SMP: do you know if they still coding/fixing?
21:53 < SMP> uhm
21:55 < mnemoc> i didn't expect an 'uhm' from a guru like you :( ... you shal know *g*
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22:07 < alexander> Hi all
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22:11 < alexander> Wow build finnished and only linux 2.5 failed :)
22:11 < tfing> gcc 3.2 ?
22:12 < alexander> tfing, uhhm, let me check, default i think. I only did a minimal build
22:12 < mnemoc> default is gcc3(.2)
22:13 < mnemoc> but gcc33 reach stage 5 without additional errors
22:13 < alexander> mnemoc. oki
22:14 < mnemoc> rock is getting stable really fast :)
22:15 < mnemoc> in spite of my effort
22:15 < alexander> Yes, it looks great. I think the 1.4 thing was great because you could easily set up a server but now you cant even run mozilla on it :(
22:15 < alexander> So its about time for it to get a version bump
22:17 < mnemoc> rock is not a 'small linux' anymore
22:18 < mnemoc> # echo package/*/*/*.desc | tr ' ' '\n' | grep -v 'mnemoc-devel' | wc -l
22:18 < mnemoc> 818
22:19 < SMP> stability is not measured in terms of how many packages build ...
22:24 < mnemoc> we can't mesure stability with lot of broken packages :)
22:24 < mnemoc> have you run ltp on a rock?
22:26 < SMP> no, but I should
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22:30 < alexander> Ahh, its sad, im rebooting my computer because of kernel maintainens. After 118 days
22:31 < rxr> oO
22:32 < tfing> [19:56:38] < tfing> rxr: you put xcdroast in the wrong repository
22:32 < tfing> [19:56:46] < tfing> should be in mathieu, not michiel ;)
22:32 < rxr> now the x86 desktop build also utilizes 3 CDs (where the loast one has only 60MB ...
22:33 < rxr> tfing: thanks - fixed
22:33 < tfing> thx
22:33 < rxr> Committed revision 540.
22:34 < mnemoc> rxr: your problem with autocomplete is not exclusive to irc ;)
22:35 < tfing> hehe
22:36 < rxr> mnemoc: ;-) But this might be because svn complaint about not up-to-date files and I had to redo it, and I wanted to get of to meet my gf at the railway-station and eat pizza later ...
22:36 < tfing> rxr: what should i do for the [M] tag ? put 3 names or leave only mine ?
22:36 < alexander> Is there a firewall script for rock 2.0 yet?
22:37 < mnemoc> cliff was coding a cisco-like interface
22:37 < rxr> tfing: drop Bevin - I moved to geetoo long ago ...
22:37 < alexander> mnemoc.. Nice
22:37 < rxr> mnemoc: I do not know if the cisco like stuff already included firewalling ...
22:38 < mnemoc> oh... :-(
22:42 < daja77> re
22:43 < rxr> hi daja77
22:43 < daja77> hi rxr
22:43 < rxr> how was you install doing?
22:43 < daja77> I heard of rev 540, I think of doin svn up and building it
22:43 < daja77> fine
22:44 < daja77> execpt for sound drivers
22:45 < daja77> which wasn't a surprise cos alsa package weren't in this build, cos I couldn't dowload them at the time
22:45 < rxr> Committed revision 541.
22:45 < daja77> hw detection even found that usb scanner, nice work
22:45 < rxr> the old hwscan or the new hotplug ?
22:46 < daja77> the old one
22:46 < rxr> err rockplug
22:46 < daja77> rev 443
22:46 < alexander> rxr, how are we supposed to build the revs when they are released in a 10 minutes intervall :).. Wow, now i relay need a faster computer
22:47 < daja77> alexander: wait for checkout until he is busy with his girl ...
22:47 < rxr> alexander: you do not need to build every rev. I don't do that too
22:47 < rxr> daja77: *g*
22:47 < alexander> rxr, just joking :)
22:47 < rxr> there will be a second rev in some minutes
22:47 < rxr> the last one was a checksum changeset the next one will be copyright stuff ...
22:48 < daja77> I have rev 1 for my study code :)
22:48 < alexander> rxr, i must say im very pleased with the speed of svn. Its much much faster now :)
22:48 < daja77> is svn 0.24 already included?
22:48 < rxr> daja77: they released it ?
22:49 < daja77> they are talking about it all the time in #svn
22:49 * daja77 checking
22:49 < rxr> alexander: yes, tomorrow the line will be even less fileed, and svn update is ways faster than the cvs up ...
22:49 < rxr> daja77: you are on #svn, too? ;-)
22:49 < rxr> we infiltrade the channel ;-)
22:49 < daja77> hehe yes
22:49 * daja77 subversion fan, as I told you :))
22:50 < daja77> only their website sucks
22:50 < alexander> daja77, ack
22:51 < mnemoc> imho, arch looks as a better choice for development trees (2.1)
22:52 < alexander> What? The computer hang after 118 days? When compiling a new kernel? :(
22:52 < alexander> oki, the iso site is no more :(
22:52 < mnemoc> lol
22:52 < daja77> hmm strange 0.24 isn't on downloads page, but everybody seems to be using it, they were so happy that 0.24 is much faster than 0.23
22:53 < alexander> I wounder if it is those stupid ibm disks that has errors that hangs the ide
22:53 < daja77> + linus commited 2.5.x stuff in a subversion repository :))
22:53 < mnemoc> daja77: kidding?
22:53 < daja77> mnemoc: no
22:53 < rxr> daja77: nope linus is using bk
22:54 < rxr> daja77: they only configured a bp -> bk gateway ...
22:54 < mnemoc> and bitkeeper?
22:54 < daja77> try svn ls -v svn://kernel.bkbits.net/linux-2.5
22:55 < rxr> daja77: one need svn 0.24 (prerelease) for this ...
22:55 < daja77> ok then I paste the output (isn't much)
22:56 < daja77> <@sussman> _ 10964 tagger 0 Jun 21 11:17 tags/
22:56 < daja77> 17:23 <@sussman> _ 11026 torvalds 0 Jun 21 11:18 trunk/
22:56 < daja77> sussman was really happy about this ...
22:58 < daja77> I guess the bk guy gets a bit on everybody's nerves ...
22:59 < mnemoc> rxr: checksum (used by -newdelete) consider .cache files?
23:00 < daja77> cool rev number is included in subversion version info
23:05 < rxr> mnemoc: yes - I think so ...
23:06 < mnemoc> mmm... so after a reference build we should rebuild everything...
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23:07 < rxr> mnemoc: what do you mean?
23:09 < rxr> Committed revision 544.
23:09 < daja77> the last for today?
23:09 * daja77 now building svn client on university machine
23:10 < rxr> hm - the last fat one ... ;-)
23:10 < daja77> damn the don't have bdb-4 on this machine, is there a sane way to compile bdb4?
23:10 < rxr> I now get some cold water - and do some server maintenance and then some bug fixing
23:10 < rxr> daja77: do you want a server able subversion?#
23:11 < daja77> no but they client need bdb as well
23:11 < alexander> daja77, i think you only need bdb-4 for the server part
23:11 < rxr> if not just skip it - or extract the bdb in the subversion dir - it will then be build in the subversion build and linked statically ...
23:11 < daja77> well at work the client didn't work until I installed the bdb4 rpm on that machine
23:11 < rxr> well - bdb is also needed to access repositories locally via file:// ...
23:12 < daja77> and via svn://
23:13 < mnemoc> rxr: after a rock is built i can keep it updated using -newdelete, Build-Target.... but after you build a reference, all .cache files will be changed even if no change has afected that package. so -newdelete will become -alldelete.
23:14 < daja77> is it possible to use bdb4.1 as well?
23:17 < rxr> mnemoc: yes - I also already thought about not using .cache files for the checksum ...
23:17 < rxr> daja77: yes - but not yet recommended - and reported to be unstable ...
23:18 < mnemoc> rxr: if you decide to 'improve' Create-ErrList, can you add a -delete $pkg option?
23:19 < rxr> well - I missed this, too ;-)
23:19 < mnemoc> :)
23:20 < daja77> hmm if I'd know where to download the older stuff, anyway it is client only
23:22 < rxr> the old bdbd ?
23:22 < daja77> yes I tried to get it from sleepycat
23:23 < rxr> look into the rock linux .desc file - or use a rock linux mirror ;-)
23:23 < daja77> :))) I compile it with 4.1.x
23:24 < daja77> btw someone in #svn said it would be better anyway ...
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23:25 < rxr> daja77: but many other report that it does not work correct ...
23:26 < daja77> It is client side only after all
23:28 < rxr> btw - on schillernet the 2nd run of the regressin tester has already compiled 70% or so ...
23:28 < alexander> Oki, a new build has been started and im off to bed
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23:28 < daja77> n8 alexander
23:28 < alexander> n8
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23:31 < daja77> oh nice
23:31 < daja77> < waldi> 20:28 < CIA> mprice committed revision 6230: Create 0.24.0 release branch.
23:32 < daja77> maybe they release it today
23:32 < rxr> the last times it took some days
23:33 < rxr> especially because they find some tiny issue here or there and merge some changeset into the branch before release ...
23:33 < daja77> hehe that's the benefit of svn I guess
23:34 * rxr copying the first official rather polished PPC ISOs ...
23:34 < rxr> labeled -beta4
23:34 < rxr> this is the best PPC dist I ever had in my hands ...
23:35 < daja77> great, even the pc edition feels nice
23:35 < rxr> you now *what*?
23:35 < daja77> huh?
23:36 < rxr> With the new ati mach64 xv scaler in XFree-4.3.99.x I was able to watch Startreck Enterprise mpegs on my Ultra 5 quite comfortable !!!!
23:36 < daja77> cool
23:36 < rxr> Just some last color-space problem which might be due to an endianness issue ...
23:36 < rxr> but quite impressive for the 270Mhz box ...
23:37 < daja77> know what, I have to go on using rock, cos I just can't find a better distro out there
23:37 < rxr> when I moved the U5 back to my desk yesterday I also installed an USB card into it and added a second SCSI card ...
23:38 < rxr> but I guess not too many people obfusecate an SPARC to listen to OGG/Vorbis and watchinv videos ...
23:38 < rxr> -e
23:38 < daja77> rxr: we should show that on linuxtag
23:39 < rxr> erhm - I'll not cary the SPARC with me .... - sorry.
23:39 < rxr> +r
23:39 < rxr> man damn - it gets to late ...
23:39 < daja77> especially cos this asshole from sun claims everybody wants solaris instead of linux
23:39 < rxr> slowlaris even ...
23:40 < rxr> ;-)
23:40 < daja77> this guy is really stupid, read that article
23:40 < daja77> ?
23:40 < rxr> nope - have not read such an article lately ;-)
23:40 < rxr> daja77: why ?
23:41 < daja77> https://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/ola-12.06.03-003/
23:41 < daja77> but beware not to die due excessive laughing
23:43 < Ge0rG> thats really sad... these dumb marketing droids get in a month what i'd have earned in a year.
23:44 < daja77> hi Ge0rG, true dat
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23:45 < daja77> it would be fun to let them demonstrate if they can do that with slowlartus too
23:45 < rxr> I saw some Slowlaris + Gnome stuff at the CeBit two years ago
23:46 < rxr> it was that noticeable slow and sluggish - that I *lol*'ed on the floor ...
23:46 < Ge0rG> last year the sun ppl at linuxtag used a sun tie to strangle a big tux :/
23:46 < daja77> they still use gnome 2.0 that lame asses
23:46 < rxr> those technicans only brabbled s.th. about their X server is slow ...
23:47 < daja77> *shrug* it is still their fault
23:47 < Ge0rG> btw linuxtag: are you guys going there? :)
23:47 < rxr> daja77: btw. our gnome could use some updates - are you interested to update all gnome packages to their latest versions?
23:47 < daja77> you want me to be the gnome maintainer?
23:47 < rxr> daja77: do you want to be the gnome maintainer - do you use gnome?
23:48 < daja77> I recently used kde, but gnome needs some work too in rocklinux
23:49 < rxr> I did not wanted to ask you to be the gnome maintainer - but since you said it could need an update, I only used the change to question whether you could send a patch over ...
23:50 < daja77> after I finished my next build with 2.4.21 included (which I need badly) ) I could dig into that
23:50 < rxr> daja77: ok
23:50 < rxr> I do nto really use gnome anymore (although I found the pannel is a nice addition to the KDE desktop ...) - so ..
23:51 < rxr> but Mike1 also mentined to liek to become gnome maintainer in rock ... - but I have not seen much patches so far ...
23:52 < daja77> I'll talk about that wto him if you like
23:53 < rxr> daja77: I only wanted to mention that - just let's see who does most gnome work ...
23:53 < daja77> okis
23:53 < rxr> the one that does really send patches and use it (to validate that the compiled output works) get's the job ...
23:53 < rxr> s/that/who/ ...
23:54 < daja77> np, it is not that I have too less work ... :))
23:54 < mnemoc> 'the rock games', the better patcher wins the repository
23:54 < rxr> but when you come over gnome it would be nice if you could bump some versions .. otherwise gnoem would suffer some bitrott in rock ...
23:55 < rxr> mnemoc: if this is the only way to get a gnome maintainer ...
23:55 < daja77> I got the message :)
23:55 * reenoo blinks...
23:56 < reenoo> I've done pretty much with recent gnome versions...
23:56 < reenoo> so, if you need any help ;)
23:56 < mnemoc> reenoo is at track 3
23:56 < reenoo> track 3?
23:56 < rxr> reenoo: do you already use ROCK Linux ?
23:57 < reenoo> nope... I assume that would be a MUST(TM) ;)
23:57 < daja77> sure
23:58 < rxr> reenoo: we need s.o. who maintains the ROCK Linux GNOME packags
23:58 < reenoo> I got that
23:58 < rxr> that inclued version update, security fixed, and of course keeping them building ...
23:58 < rxr> so this enforces using ROCK and doing some ./scripts/Build-Pkg `grep gnome la la la ...`
23:59 < reenoo> sure
23:59 < rxr> reenoo: do you consider using ROCK Linux ?
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