--- Log opened Mon Jun 16 00:00:06 2003
--- Day changed Mon Jun 16 2003
00:00 < reenoo> the problem is that you probably need someone for the job right now and I don't have that much time left ATM :(
00:01 < reenoo> real world / job / lcdproc needs quite a lot of work / etc. bla bla
00:02 < rxr> ah - ok. daja77 Mike1 ? ;-)
00:02 < daja77> rxr: I'll talk to Mike1 and we'll see
00:11 < martin> hello and gn8 rxr, all
00:12 < daja77> n8 martin
00:12 < martin> n8 daja77
00:18 < rxr> h mnemoc
00:18 < rxr> argh - hi martin
00:18 < mnemoc> :)
00:18 * rxr remember slow typing - slow typing ...
00:18 < rxr> mnemoc: there is nothing to laugh about ....
00:18 < mnemoc> :D
00:20 < mnemoc> == 06/15/03 16:25:30 =[2]=> Finished building package binutils.
00:20 < mnemoc> == 16:30:40 =[2]=> Building base/gcc33 [3.3 2.0.0-beta5].
00:20 < mnemoc> i hate my hardrive
00:21 < rxr> mnemoc: if you would be rich I would send you a new box ...
00:21 < rxr> but unfortunately I'm also a poor student, ... :-(
00:22 * mnemoc offers a round of beers for the poor students 
00:22 * reenoo is off to bed
00:22 < daja77> cheers mnemoc
00:22 < daja77> n8 reenoo
00:22 * netrunner drinks some beer *goodidea!*
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00:23 < rxr> mnemoc: I guess the shipping costs are too high to send a 233Mhz pentium-mmx over?
00:23 < mnemoc> shipping is more expensive that the box
00:23 < rxr> I guess, too ...
00:24 < netrunner> rxr: do you take a build-box to linuxtag btw?
00:24 < daja77> rxr: what about the commit...
00:27 < rxr> daja77: committing ...
00:27 < daja77> :-)
00:28 < rxr> netrunner: I live in Berlin and the LT is in Karlsruhe  - so I only take as less stuff with me as possible ... - especially since I travel by train - and on the Friday a good freind marries, and I do nto yet now how to manage all this stuff (+ a important birthday + some commercial planning with a friend ...) in that week
00:30 < daja77> rxr: btw have I told you that I am invitet to MD next week to talk about rock
00:31 < rxr> MD ?
00:31 < daja77> Magdeburg
00:32 < rxr> by whom ?
00:32 < daja77> mdlug
00:32 < rxr> nice - do you live there ?
00:32 < rxr> or how do you invite you ?
00:33 < daja77> I hang around in their chat, and they want to talk about src based distros, and they only have lfs and gentoo users for now
00:33 < daja77> nope I am from Chemnitz
00:33 < Ge0rG> hm... I should go there too and get along my (planned) new notebook
00:33 < daja77> preinstalled with rock?
00:34 < Ge0rG> preinstalled with some childrens' OS
00:34 < rxr> yeah - get us new (but please not stupid) users ;-)
00:34 < Ge0rG> ehehe
00:34 < daja77> I try my best, btw do you have time to come over?
00:34 < esden> hi all
00:35 < esden> ping Mike1 
00:35 < daja77> not having stupid user is a feature in rocklinux too
00:35 < rxr> well this hi esden
00:35 < daja77> esden: he isn't here on sundays usually
00:35 < daja77> hi esden
00:35 < esden> humm .. yes right 
00:35 < rxr> hi esden
00:35 < esden> hi rxr, daja77 
00:36 < rxr> do you have the time to change the topic - by removing the currently rather not updated cvs link
00:36 < rxr> it confuses some people ...
00:36 < netrunner> hi esden
00:36 < rxr> maybe also the 1.7 string ...
00:36 < esden> rxr: ack
00:36 < esden> rxr: please tell me the new topic
00:36 < daja77> rxr: I'll bring some beta5 cds to MD :)
00:36 < esden> or wait ... I give you rights to do that
00:36 < rxr> just the old one - 1.7 and the cvs url ...
00:36 < rxr> esden: ahh - no
00:37 < esden> o_O
00:37 < rxr> I do not need yet another passwd ...
00:37 < esden> you  do not need a po
00:37 < esden> password if you have registred your nick on nickserv
00:37 < rxr> esden: yes - but I do not authenticate that often ...
00:37 < daja77> hehe op me win a prize :)
00:37 < esden> rxr: then when you need that then you can authenticate
00:38 -!- mode/#rocklinux [+o esden] by ChanServ
00:38 -!- mode/#rocklinux [+o rxr] by esden
00:38 -!- mode/#rocklinux [-o rxr] by ChanServ
00:38 <@esden> argl
00:38 < rxr> esden: btw - now since the ppc is at the same level as x86 (maybe even higher in some areas) I do start sparc builds again ;-)
00:38 -!- mode/#rocklinux [-o esden] by esden
00:38 < daja77> chanserv is stupid he killed all ops in #mdlug too
00:38 < esden> rxr: yepeeee!
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00:39 < rxr> esden: ok - nom - I authenticate
00:40 < esden> rxr now do /msg chanserv op #rocklinux 
00:40 * -> esden is going to get a beer ... 
00:40 * -> esden brb
00:41 < rxr> hm - my nick is not registered anymore
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00:41 < rxr> did it got lost during the freenode transition ?
00:41 < daja77> nope it will be deleted after 60 days without authenticate
00:42 < rxr> ah expires after 60 days ...
00:42 < rxr> damn
00:42 < netrunner> my nick is registered by someone else. ... who hasn't been online for long as it seems.
00:42 < daja77> or it was you who forgot the passwd :)
00:45 < rxr> hm:
00:45 < rxr> 00:45 <rxr> REGISTER bla-bla-bla
00:46 < rxr> 00:45 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Your nickname is not registered
00:46 < rxr> 00:45 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Type: /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER for more information
00:46 < rxr> what do I miss ?
00:46 < esden> cheers
00:46 < esden> rxr: it seems that your nick expired
00:46 < daja77> rxr: /msg nickserv register register passwd
00:46 < esden> you have to reregister it
00:47 < rxr> I just tried this ..
00:47 < daja77> rxr: /msg nickserv register passwd
00:47 < rxr> daja77: I just tried - the above lines are the output ...
00:47 < esden> rxr: you have to use nickserv not chanserv
00:47 < rxr> ah - ok - sorry
00:48 < esden> rxr: the services are connected to eachother ... but they do different things\
00:49 < rxr> esden: An access level of [10] is required for [OP] on #rocklinux
00:49 < rxr> esden: An access level of [10] is required for [OP] on #rocklinux
00:49 < rxr> test
00:49 < rxr> oops - sorry
00:50 < esden> url?
00:50 < rxr> this is the ouput for
00:50 < rxr>  /msg chanserv op #rocklinux
00:50 < esden> humm ...
00:50 < esden> ahh mom ... I messed something up
00:51 -!- mode/#rocklinux [+o rxr] by ChanServ
00:51 < esden> rxr: try now
00:51 < esden> fine
00:51 < esden> ;-)
00:51 < tfing> he tried :)
00:51 < esden> tfing: it seems so ;-)
00:52 -!- rxr changed the topic of #rocklinux to: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now (svn co http://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk/)
00:52 < esden> ahh fine
00:53 < daja77> rxr: maybe you should include a comment on subversion
00:53 <@rxr> daja77: should I also include the svn:// URL ?
00:53 < esden> daja77: it will be too long then ... the last topic was too long ... for sure ...
00:53 < esden> rxr: no ...
00:54 < esden> it is enough ... I thing
00:54 < esden> you could also link to a site describing how to get 2.0 beta
00:54 < daja77> we can tell newcomers of subversion as well
00:54 -!- rxr changed the topic of #rocklinux to: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now (Get it via Subversion: svn co http://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk/)
00:54 < daja77> excellent
00:55 < esden> that is ok
00:55 -!- rxr changed the topic of #rocklinux to: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - http://www.rocklinux.org/projects/rock20/)
00:55 <@rxr> or this one ;-) ?
00:55 < esden> or that
00:55 < esden> that is the best one
00:55 < esden> if you ask me
00:55 -!- rxr changed the topic of #rocklinux to: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - http://www.rocklinux.org/projects/rock20/
00:55 < daja77> rxr: there is no info about checking out on that page afaik
00:56 < esden> rxr will add it daja77 ;-)
00:56 <@rxr> daja77: there is
00:56 < daja77> ;-)
00:57 < esden> prost
00:57 <@rxr> esden: how do I unop ?
00:57 < esden>  /deop rxr
00:57 < tfing> /deop rxr
00:57 < esden> I was faster ;-)
00:57 < daja77> or /mode -o rxr :)
00:57 < esden> daja77: poser ;-)
00:58 <@rxr> ah - ok - thank
00:58 -!- mode/#rocklinux [-o rxr] by rxr
00:58 < rxr> well - better
00:58 < daja77> esden: *GGG*
00:58 < rxr> esden: I could also get a beet ;-) We could do a virtual prost ;-)!
00:59 < esden> rxr: that would be nice ... rxr get a beer my friend ;-)
01:00 < daja77> esden: säufer!
01:00 < esden> daja77: selber ...
01:00 * -> esden reaches a glass of whiskey over to daja77 
01:00 < daja77> esden is trying to get everyboday drunk
01:01 < daja77> thx very much esden
01:01 * -> esden needs to get drunk today ... but I probably will not have enough alk for that ...
01:01 < daja77> I guess we need jolt and whiskey at the rocklinux booth
01:01 < esden> daja77: de nada
01:01 < esden> daja77: hehe ... it is really a mess that I will not be there :-(
01:01 < netrunner> esden: come here! :)
01:02 < esden> netrunner: where?
01:02 < netrunner> come to where the alc is :)
01:02 < esden> netrunner: your home?
01:02 < daja77> wow sussman speaking german
01:02 < esden> sussman?
01:03 < daja77> svn developer
01:03 * netrunner counting: 1 bottle of rum, 1/2 bottle limes, 2 bottles 'dunkles erdinger', 1/3 bottle baylies, some cocos looking bottle ... :)
01:03 < rxr> daja77: yes - I also noticed this!
01:03 < daja77> :)
01:03 < esden> netrunner: sigh ... ok I really should come over ... but I do not know where your home is
01:04 < esden> and I already drunk a bit so I should not drive now
01:04 < netrunner> esden: the bigger problem is the sleeping lifeforms here :(
01:05 < netrunner> esden: let's make up another day for that :)
01:05 < esden> netrunner: your girlfriend ... right?
01:05 < esden> netrunner: sure!
01:05 < netrunner> s//msg//
01:05 < Ge0rG> btw sleeping... bye guys
01:06 < rxr> esden: I now have a Köstritzer in my hand
01:06 < esden> ok ... then prost rxr 
01:06 < rxr> Prost!
01:06 < daja77> hehe discussing german grammar with sussman, *ggg*
01:06 < rxr> I consider to release -beta5 tomorrow!
01:06 < esden> *schunkel*
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01:07 * -> esden can not wait for the next beta
01:07 < esden> I need to update my laptop
01:07 < esden> ;-)
01:07 < rxr> daja77: lol
01:08 < tfing> rxr: you can remove the xcdroast part in your todo list :)
01:08 < tfing> more parition editors in stone <- i guess you mean patition
01:08 < rxr> tfing: ack
01:08 < tfing> more parition editors in stone <- i guess you mean partition
01:09 < rxr> tfing: I go over it - could you post corrections in some miniutes
01:09 < rxr> ?
01:10 < esden> another thing that we need in stone is a tool to resize partitions
01:10 < esden> a nice interface to one of them would be nice too
01:10 < esden> only an idea
01:11 < esden> argl 80 new mails in my rocklinux mailbox >_<
01:12 < esden> ok ... I go to give the beer glass back ... brb
01:15 < rxr> tfing: updated - could you recheck ?
01:15 < tfing> yep
01:16 < esden> re
01:16 < tfing> the package enscript need to be added <- needs
01:16 < tfing> exim.init retart not functional <- restart
01:17 < rxr> tfing: I'll add the package now - it does not cost more time than fixing the typo ;-)!
01:17 < rxr> tfing: argh!
01:17 < tfing> :)
01:18 < rxr> feel free to post more ...
01:19 < daja77> tfing: keep him awake *gg*
01:19 < tfing> samab SID SAM fix <- samba ?
01:19 < rxr> oh - well
01:20 < tfing> exapandable tree <- expandable
01:22 < rxr> fixed
01:24 < netrunner> n8
01:25 < daja77> n8 netrunner
01:25 < tfing> python might need to be installed differently
01:26 * daja77 curses curl
01:26 < tfing> - help texts (install-prompt/gasgui) - working JAVA missing <- missing a breakline
01:26 < tfing> btw, blackdown's jdk works fine for me
01:27 < tfing> want a jdk package ?
01:27 < daja77> brb
01:27 < rxr> tfing: what is the blackdown license ???
01:28 < tfing> don't know precisely
01:28 < tfing> checking
01:28 < rxr> I had some private mail about the Sun license - as far as I can see we are not allowed to ship ti wihtout paying sun ...
01:29 < rxr> enscript added
01:29 < tfing> it's shipped with the sun license yes
01:30 < rxr> could you read it carefully? What are statement on the blackdown page ?
01:31 < rxr> it is binary only, isn't it ?
01:31 < daja77> there were src packages iirc
01:33 < rxr> does s.o. need Matrix Reloaded Soundtrack in High-Fidelety Ogg/Vorbis tracks ?
01:34 < rxr> avg. 150kB ... quality setting 5 ...
01:34 < daja77> you have them?
01:34 < rxr> I have the CD, and encodded them ... - but they do not yet have info tags ...
01:34 < esden> ok guys ... I whish you all good night
01:34 < rxr> s/CD/CDs ...
01:34 < rxr> cu esden
01:34 < daja77> well I am downloading rock packages now, so ....
01:35 < daja77> n8 esden
01:36 < rxr> so enscript works ...
01:36 < tfing> i thought they were kind of opensource but i can't find sources
01:37 * daja77 remembering someone called tha movie Matrix: Refunded
01:37 < SMP> oh
01:37 * SMP removed enscript vom hist TODO
01:38 < SMP> s,removed,removes, s,hist,his,
01:38 < rxr> well at least I'm not the only one suffering from late night typos ... ;-)
01:38 < tfing> i might be wrong in fact
01:39 < rxr> SMP: could you open your TODO ?
01:39 < rxr> woudl you enter bugs in some form of issue tracker if we would have one ?
01:40 < daja77> depends on how complicated it is
01:40 < SMP> I'd do almost anything, but only if I can confirm the issue before, not just on a build from weeks ago
01:41 < rxr> SMP: you noticed that I mad new x86 logs available ?
01:41 < rxr> SMP: is you todo browseable - or could you send it via email to me ?
01:41 < SMP> I looked a few hours ago, but found nothing new
01:44 < SMP> it's not browseable and it would not make much sense to you. give me the beta4 build and I'll go through it and confirm what's still broken
01:44 < SMP> and find more bugs ;-)
01:45 < rxr> I have a -beta5 build here ... - what do you need?
01:45 < SMP> isos ;)
01:45 < rxr> ugh - tomorrow
01:46 < SMP> yeah, I'm on ISDN right now anyway
01:46 < rxr> over my (saturated) DSL line you would need many hours anyway - and tomorrow the gsmp.tfh-berlin.de box will be at the right location again ...
01:46 < rxr> with -beta4 PPC iso and -beta5 x86 iso ...
01:47 < rxr> I guess we will top the 300 GB traffic this months ...
01:47 < SMP> great
01:47 < rxr> I'll just finish some automatic schillernet.dyndns.org/rock-linux/ flist/logs/... creation.
01:50 < daja77> gn8, cu tomorrow
01:50 < daja77> or should I say later
01:50 < rxr> n8 daja77
02:07 < rxr> SMP: new script topy copy those info is now in place - some hours ago only the .gem files where latest, now also the flist and logs are complete valid
02:07 < rxr> btw - I hacked around the nssdb issue (if you also came over this one - and it is on your todo ...)
02:07 < SMP> no, what's the hack?
02:09 < SMP> /rock-linux/logs/logs/ ?;)
02:09 < rxr> the nssdb linked aoh oops
02:11 < rxr> mom
02:11 < tfing> rocklinux on osnews.com
02:11 < tfing> just a link to rocklinux.org saying the beta4 is available
02:13 < rxr> SMP: nssdb dny-linked to bdb-3.3 - but this (to some degree obviously) made all other binaries dyn-linked to another bdb (but sharing the same symbols) seg-fault during loading the executeable ...
02:14 < rxr> I now (hopefully correctly - maybe this needs some more local-scope s.th. stuff) link the old bdb-3.3 statically into the nss_db.so ...
02:15 < rxr> this bug was present in all the releases of the last months ... - and a critial show-stopper ...
02:15 < SMP> I was well aware of the bug
02:16 < SMP> other distros link libnss_db.so statically to bdb 4.1
02:16 < rxr> tfing: Wow - the first time I see ROCK on osnews.com ;-)!
02:16 * rxr happy
02:17 < rxr> too sad that this damn fscking server is here on my slow line and not at university ... with a 100Mbit connect
02:17 < rxr> I already disabled the wohle gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/ftp/drock area since this flooded my line ...
02:18 < rxr> SMP: ah - ok. Btw (slightly off-topic) when will the next Enterprise series go on-air?
02:18 < rxr> btw. I plan massive PR with the PPC thingy
02:19 < tfing> how is the uml target ? i might need it
02:19 < rxr> we have now the most bug-free (YDL and Debian really suck) dist with the most recent tools ...
02:19 < SMP> rxr: don't know about ENT
02:46 < rxr> n8 all
02:47 < tfing> n8
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06:35 < martin> cu
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07:17 < blindcoder> moin
09:09 < netrunner> moin blindcoder, *
09:32 < esden> moisn everyone
09:33 < netrunner> hi esden, get up and get your engine running, steger is waiting for you :)
09:38 < esden> netrunner: do you want that I puke?
09:39 < blindcoder> hi esden
09:42 < esden> hi blindcoder 
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09:51 < ringo78> 1
10:17 < esden> re hi all
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10:32 < blindcoder> wb esden
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11:13 < daja77> moin
11:18 < ringo78> moin daja77
11:20 < daja77> hi ringo78
11:25 * daja77 off again
11:25 < daja77> cu
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12:24 < tcr> rxr: you don't happen to be here?
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14:48 < rolla> re
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15:26 < daja77> re
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15:32 < daja77> hi n00kie
15:33 < n00kie> Hola daja77  :)
15:33 * daja77 hopes rxr doesn't include svn 0.24 in stable tree ...
15:35 < n00kie> daja77: What have you against svn 0.24?
15:36 < daja77> it has a bug, that's why 0.24.1 is goin to be released soon
15:43 < netrunner> ugh ... I better read a book before trying to make a sauce from meat :(
15:59 < rolla> == 08:44:04 =[1]=> Building base/linux24 [2.4.21-rc6 2.0.0-beta4].
16:03 < daja77> puh, luser is gone now
16:04 < rolla> daja77: ?
16:04 < daja77> I had a luser here, wnated to have shopping info for linux on laptops
16:05 < Ge0rG> linux on laptops? *trigger*
16:07 < daja77> he is too stupid to get the relevant info alone ...
16:07 < rxr> re
16:07 < daja77> hi rxr
16:08 < rxr> daja77: ok - so no 0.24 ...
16:08 < rxr> daja77: wasn't yet on my todo anyway ...
16:08 < daja77> 0.24.1 is tagged already :)
16:09 < rxr> I've too much to do anyway ...
16:11 < daja77> poor rxr
16:27 < Mike1> hi.
16:27 < daja77> hi Mike1
16:30 < rolla> re Mike1
16:36 < daja77> Mike1: ping
16:37 < Mike1> pong
16:52 < rxr> Mike1: hi
16:52 < rxr> could you test:
16:52 < rxr> http://drocklinux.dyndns.org/ftp/drock/unstable/2.0.0-beta4+fixes/
17:00 < rxr> wow - my U5 build reached stage-2 ...
17:00 < daja77> congrats
17:06 < Mike1> hi rxr
17:07 < Mike1> rxr: do you want me to test both ppc and x86?
17:08 < rxr> x86 is enough - do you have a ppc (but the ppc is tested - the x86 is not ...)
17:09 < Mike1> rxr: i have access to one ppc yes.
17:09 < Mike1> rxr: i will download the x86 isos in this very moment and test them for you
17:09 < rxr> Mike1: great - thanks.
17:09 < rxr> is the ppc a Mac or an IBM box ?
17:10 < Mike1> G4 ..
17:11 < Mike1> rxr: nice the isos are downloading quite fast :)
17:18 < daja77> *argl* I found the reason for rtai package failure
17:18 < daja77> /usr/src/linux points to the 2.5.x src tree *grml*
17:22 < Mike1> rxr: poke me again in ~3hours so i can give you some feedback on the isos testing
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17:24 < rxr> Updated to revision 549.
17:24 < daja77> rxr: do you know why the /usr/src/linux symlink point to 2.5?
17:25 < rxr> this should only happen if you select 2.5 as default kernel - maybe the revisin you used had a bug in this ...
17:26 < rxr> (IIRC this was the case in the first revision with multi-kernel support ...)
17:26 < daja77> hmm ic, I won't upgrade here, fix around in rtai.conf :)
17:26 < rxr> daja77: maybe you could just rebuild the kernel packages or so ...
17:27 * daja77 investigating
17:36 < Mike1> rxr: are you accepting updates for base and genome* repos?
17:37 < Mike1> gnome*
17:37 < daja77> == 06/16/03 17:36:13 =[5]=> Finished building package rtai.
17:37 < daja77> yeah I am back on track
17:37 < Mike1> daja77: Gut :)
17:38 < daja77> I guess this will be the one and only 2.4.20 based rtai rock version
17:39 < rxr> Mike1: gnome yes - definetely - base needs reviewing ...
17:39 < rxr> Mike1: how fast is the download ?
17:39 < rxr> btw today I committed really cute cursors for XFree
17:40 < rxr> take a look on tuxcursor ;-)!
17:40 < Mike1> rxr: more or less 160k/s
17:40 < Mike1> rxr: i already got cd3 and almost all cd1
17:40 < Mike1> will start downloading cd2 when cd1 is done, i need some bandwidth for other things :)
17:41 < daja77> hehe streaming pr0n ...
17:43 * daja77 jumps around
17:43 < rxr> Hnm?
17:48 < daja77> -> Building build/.../pkgs/rtai-24.1.11.gem
17:48 < daja77> i can now continue the rest of the build and test the realtime rock isos tomorrow
17:48 < rxr> great
17:49 < rxr> when might the first patches arrive ?
17:49 < daja77> when I migrated to kernel 2.4.21
17:49 < daja77> this is the one and only 2.4.20 based build :)
17:50 < daja77> rtai patch for 2.4.21 is in rtai cvs already :-)
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17:54 < daja77> I just love it
17:54 < rxr> daja77: you love what? ;-)=
17:55 < rolla> == 10:24:03 =[1]=> Building base/linux25 [2.5.70 2.0.0-beta4].
17:55 < daja77> rocklinux
17:56 < Mike1> rxr: isn't it obvious, daja77 loves "_it_"
17:56 < Mike1> ah rocklinux ... :)
17:56 < daja77> not you Mike1 :P
17:57 < daja77> yeah last week i thought I#ll never finish it, and have to use rh for the rest of my life, so this is really good news for me
17:58 * daja77 hugs Mike1 
18:02 * Mike1 gives daja77 a pic os _NULL
18:02 < Mike1> of*
18:02 < daja77> huh, why
18:03 < daja77> rxr: could you add me to your commit mail list, pls?
18:03 < rxr> jups
18:04 < daja77> thx
18:04 < Mike1> <AOL> /me too </AOL>
18:04 < rxr> ack
18:04 < Mike1> miguel.bolanos@techworx.net please
18:10 < rxr> daja77: mail addr
18:11 < daja77> rock@lospalmos.net
18:11 < rxr> ok - both added
18:12 < Mike1> rxr: thank you very much.
18:13 < daja77> ok added bootdisk build, goin home now :)
18:13 < Mike1> cu later daja77
18:13 < daja77> cu Mike1
18:16 * rolla is tired
18:18 < Mike1> rolla: why so?
18:19 < rolla> waiting for my boot disk build to finish
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18:21 < Mike1> rolla: isn't it like a bit boring?
18:21 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder
18:21 < Mike1> the wait i mean
18:21 < Mike1> hi blindy
18:34 < mnemoc> re
18:35 < Mike1> wb mnemoc!
18:35 < mnemoc> thanks Mike1 :)
18:40 < rxr> post a comment that ROCK rocks!:
18:40 < rxr> http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=3799
18:40 < rxr> Thanks!
18:55 < rxr> hello ?
18:55 < Mike1> :)
18:55 < mnemoc> :)
18:55 < Mike1> ok
18:56 < rxr> wow - u5 is in stage-3 ...
19:00 < rxr> 
19:00 < rxr> cool
19:00 < rxr> accidently my mac had no power - and was running on battery
19:01 < rxr> so it just felt in sleep automatically - and woke up when I plugged the power-cord into it ;-) Really cool!
19:05 < rxr> hm my iBook seems to be able to run 3:30 on battery (but I think it was not fully charged ...)
19:06 < rxr> hm - strange my uptime seems to be incorrect ...
19:07 < Ge0rG> the uptime counter is stopped in suspend mode
19:08 < rxr> sure - but it was only sleeping a few seconds - since I wanted to continue work ...
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19:28 < mnemoc> damn djb :( ... you extended termination date for just three months...
19:29 < mnemoc> rxr: take a look... http://www.13thfloor.at/VServer/patches-2.4.21-c17a/ ... we could include some of their patches....
19:30 < mnemoc> e.g. some_fixes adds a customizable limit off CPUs for SMP
19:30 < mnemoc> updates to devfs and acpi, etc...
19:36 < rolla> re
19:39 < mnemoc> hi roolla
19:42 < rolla> hallo mnemoc
19:59 < rxr> mnemoc: I do not want to patch the kernel that hefty ...
20:00 < rxr> the only thing I consider applying is the official ACPI patch from sf.net ...
20:01 < mnemoc> i was considering to add all the patchset as a package.... but, how gem control would react with a no files package?
20:01 < rolla> == 13:05:15 =[1]=> Building base/gcc3 [3.2.3 2.0.0-beta4].
20:02 < rolla> rxr do you have problems with the 2.5 kernel in 2.0 beta 4?
20:02 < mnemoc> rolla: your 'rolla' has any relation with the 'rolla' of '4guysfromrolla.com'?
20:02 < rxr> rolla: yes - it might not compile - use latest svn - but even there the last time it did not compile ...
20:03 < mnemoc> rxr: isdn is simply broken.... but shopuld be added to kernel-disable or wait for 2.5.71?
20:04 < mnemoc> kernel-disable has ever been 're-checked'?
20:05 < mnemoc> ot: rxr, checksum is currently excluding .cache files
20:08 -!- mnemoc is now known as _dead_box_mnemoc
20:08 < rxr> ah - that is nice
20:08 < rxr> hm - what is this toll comment os osnew.com about ???
20:08 < _dead_box_mnemoc> -delete currently just remove log file
20:08 -!- _dead_box_mnemoc is now known as __mnemoc
20:09 < __mnemoc> rxr: please translate :(
20:10 < rxr> __mnemoc: see http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=3799
20:10 < rxr> the anonymous who replied to my ROCK Linux entry ...
20:11 < __mnemoc> wtf is troll?
20:11 < __mnemoc> i don't get it
20:12 < rxr> __mnemoc: it is some newsnet / mailing-list term used for people talking just shit (if I got this correct) ...
20:12 < rxr> but other might know more exactly ...
20:13 < rolla> __mnemoc: nope
20:13 < rolla> rxr: thanks
20:13 < rxr> rolla: ?
20:15 < __mnemoc> rxr: i ask him is his nick is related with the place called 'rolla'
20:15 < rolla> the bit about 2.5
20:15 < __mnemoc> oh..
20:15 -!- __mnemoc is now known as ___mnemoc
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20:17 < javitto> hi Mike1
20:17 < javitto> look
20:18 < javitto> i just did a Download -required
20:18 < javitto> and im getting a lot of
20:18 < javitto> error while curling'em
20:18 < javitto> may you tell me another mirror?
20:19 < javitto> Mike1 or anyone else...
20:19 < ___mnemoc> remove ./src/Download-*
20:19 < ___mnemoc> and redetect mirrors
20:19 < javitto> i think im using ftp.leo.org
20:20 < javitto> but it lacks a lotta packages..
20:21 < ___mnemoc> the current mirror list is in ./src/
20:24 < javitto> ok thnx
20:25 < ___mnemoc> but if any updated package is currently not in the mirror you can download it directly from 'the source' doing #echo none > src/Download-Mirror
20:28 < daja77> re
20:35 < daja77> rxr: nope a troll was the term for provokative news articles intending to start a flamewar or just piss people off, now the term troll also refer to the person who send such articles
20:36 < rolla> == 13:40:49 =[1]=> Building base/findutils [4.1.20 2.0.0-beta4].
20:37 < daja77>  /ignore rolla, no?
20:39 < rolla> daja77: suck it
20:39 < ___mnemoc> o_O
20:39 < daja77> ??
20:40 < rolla> :)
20:40 < ___mnemoc> so, rene is a 'troll'?
20:40 < daja77> ___mnemoc: not really
20:40 < daja77> rolla: still building beta4, haha
20:40 < rolla> boot yeah I was lazy over the weekend
20:41 < rolla> == 13:44:49 =[1]=> Building base/make [3.80 2.0.0-beta4].
20:41 < daja77> == 20:43:20 =[5]=> Building gnome2/gtk+22 [2.2.2 2.0.0-beta5].
20:41 < daja77> :P
20:42 < rolla> daja77: must be nice
20:42 < rolla> I am loading this iso on my laptop tonight
20:42 < rolla> == 13:47:06 =[1]=> Building base/sed [4.0.6 2.0.0-beta4].
20:43 < daja77> have fun
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20:45 < rolla> daja77: you will not know it since you will ignore me
20:46 < daja77> hehe I don't ignore you, I only considered it ...
20:46 < rolla> daja77: that is not very nice
20:46 * daja77 evil
20:47 < daja77> :)
20:50 < rolla> :)
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21:09 < daja77> klaus knopper on tv,bbl
21:10 < rolla> is iproute2 needed to boot a system?
21:11 < Mike1> no.
21:12 < rolla> good
21:12 < rolla> welcome back Mike1
21:12 < Mike1> thx :)
21:12 < rolla> my stage-1 build of it died :(
21:12 < Mike1> rolla: mm.. err?
21:13 < ___mnemoc> do you have a log to see why iproute2 fails on 'bootdisk'?
21:14 < n00kie> hola Mike1  :)
21:14 < Mike1> hola n00kie
21:16 * ___mnemoc needs a 'reboot service' on his crappy box...
21:26 < rolla> here is the cool part I told it not to build 2.5 kernel but without the ) linux25* line it still wants to build it
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21:47 < rxr> Mike1: did you already tested the -beta4+fixes ISOS ?
21:47 < Mike1> rxr: testing right now
21:47 < Mike1> no problem so far.
21:47 < Mike1> rxr: :)
21:47 < rxr> ah nice
21:48 < rxr> so it booted and install up to now?
21:48 < Mike1> installing :)
21:48 < Mike1> *ggg*
21:48 < Mike1> rxr: i was delayed by my boss this mourning, so only now that i can back from lunch i am testing it..
21:48 < Mike1> rxr: btw i am quite interested in the progress of your build on the u5
21:48 < Mike1> whats the current status?
22:02 < netrunner> hmm I love fried bananas :)
22:04 < daja77> re
22:04 < rolla> Mike1: are you watching this mailing list?
22:04 < Mike1> rolla: what mailing list?
22:05 < rolla> rocklinux
22:05 < Mike1> i was unsubscribed for several days untill maybe 15 minutes ago
22:05 < Mike1> why?
22:06 < rolla> svn vs cvs ;)
22:06 < daja77> svn always wins :)
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22:14 < rolla> == 15:16:33 =[3]=> Building base/ncurses [5.3 2.0.0-beta4].
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22:19 < rxr> Mike1: re
22:20 < rxr> Mike1: status in a second
22:20 < Mike1> wb rxr
22:20 < Mike1> rxr: great
22:20 < netrunner> rolla: what's the point of posting build messages?
22:20 < rolla> netrunner: what is the point of talking?
22:20 < Mike1> netrunner: that keeps someone us updated with the status of his build
22:21 < netrunner> rolla: exchanging info ?
22:21 < netrunner> Mike1: cool, so I'll redirect my buildlog here? ;) would flood the screen :)
22:21 < rolla> well you just answered your own question
22:21 < Mike1> netrunner: thats a whole different thing...
22:22 < Mike1> netrunner: besides i really don't see rolla pasting that stuff that often
22:22 < rolla> I only post it when I am bored
22:22 < netrunner> Mike1: i only asked because I was curious, not because I was annoyed.
22:22 < Mike1> still if it bothers you and others maybe we guys could make this more democratic and decide wether to paste such stuff here or not.
22:23 < Mike1> netrunner: ok got ya :)
22:23 * netrunner adopts: 22:21 builder:      building job '9-libbonoboui22' (4086) ..
22:23 < daja77> wtf
22:24 * rolla gets ready to query daja77 with his entire build log ;)
22:25 * daja77 gets ready to beat rolla :)
22:25 * netrunner prepares redirecting his clusterlog to #rocklinux
22:26 < netrunner> maybe there should be a #rocklinux-log ?
22:26 * Mike1 proposes the LFD movement
22:26 < rolla> netrunner: that was triied before and it died
22:26 < daja77> netrunner: there is, #rocklinux-status
22:26 < Mike1> LFD = Let's Flood Daja77
22:26 < rolla> daja77: there is no one in the channel
22:27 < daja77> rolla: yeah maybe blindcoder should post his script
22:27 < netrunner> rolla: no wonder it dies when you know nobody watches it :)
22:27 < Mike1> daja77: how do you know no one is in the channel?
22:27 < daja77> Mike1: :PP
22:29 < rolla> netrunner: yup
22:30 < daja77> Mike1: you left?
22:31 < Mike1> yeah i got too much people talking to me on other irc server
22:33 < daja77> someone wants to talk to you, strange *ggg*
22:35 * netrunner listens to russian music
22:36 * netrunner drinks a cool dark white beer
22:36 < daja77> netrunner: what kind of russian music?
22:37 * rolla listens to limp-bizkit
22:37 < daja77> omg
22:39 < netrunner> daja77: tatu - 200 Po Vstrecnoj
22:40 < daja77> hehe have some russian tatu files too ...
22:40 * Mike1 searching for his limp bizkit cds..
22:41 < netrunner> it's funny to hear how they translated it ... "all the things she said" vs. "i got mad because of her"
22:41 < Ge0rG> the translation isn't really worth it
22:41 < netrunner> georg: but it got into the charts ...
22:41 < daja77> all translations suck ...
22:45 < rxr> Mike1: the U5 is buliding just fine. Quite complete .gem files can be found on the schillernet server (but be aware that the kernel image does not work on a U5 - I'll do the extra work in the next weeks ...)
22:45 < Mike1> rxr: i got good and bad news about ur isos
22:45 < Mike1> rxr: i was able to boot on a vmware machine..
22:45 < rxr> the .gem files on schillernet are some month old - in a week or so we'll have new .gem's - the build is currently just entered stage-5
22:46 < rxr> Mike1: the new x86 ISO ?
22:46 < Mike1> but they will not boot neither on my laptop, or a power edge 2500 is got here
22:46 < Mike1> rxr: yeah the new x86 isos
22:46 < Mike1> it returns a kernel panic error when booting for installation
22:46 < rxr> Mike1: the U5 has comi
22:46 < rxr> piled 92 packages fine and 5 with errors
22:46 < daja77> panic, which panic
22:47 < rxr> dietlibc, linux25, curl and mkisofs
22:47 < rolla> Mike1: your build is not working?
22:47 < Mike1> Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel.
22:47 < Mike1> that error daja77, rxr
22:47 < Mike1> rolla: yes mine is, i'm having problems testing rene's newer isos
22:48 < rxr> but the this init error does not happen in vmware ???
22:48 < daja77> Mike1: I know this error very well :)
22:48 < Mike1> rxr: it did not show up on a vmware here...
22:48 < Mike1> rxr: believe me i'm quoite confused
22:48 < rxr> strange ...
22:49 < Mike1> daja77: yeah me too, i used to have such errors very often before
22:49 < Mike1> rxr: i was going to install on the vmware, but i don't have much space left here
22:49 < Mike1> that why i tryed my laptop
22:49 < Mike1> since it didn't work i went for the dell server
22:49 < daja77> rxr: this always happen when I first build bootdisk target, it vanishes if I redo the build
22:50 < Mike1> i have 2 other boxes laying around on which i can try, but i'm quite sure it won't boot.
22:50 < Mike1> daja77: last time i had such problem in one of my builds was months ago..
22:50 < daja77> I had it in all my builds
22:51 < Mike1> rxr: can you rebuild the bootdisks?
22:51 < daja77> btw just redo scripts/Build-Target, no Cleanup
22:53 < netrunner> Mike1: I had the init problem last time because dietlibc was not built. there is a bug in the build that requires dietlibc to be at /usr/lib (or similar) on the build system. I did a symlink there, and it worked since then.
22:54 < Mike1> netrunner: i know the problem, the thing is that i am testing an iso not a personal build..
22:55 < rxr> Mike1: nope - I wiped the build out to start a recent -beta5 build ...
22:55 < rxr> Mike1: daja77: but I never had such a bug ...
22:56 < daja77> *fsck*
22:56 < rxr> and when it works in vmware it is not a real s.th. not present bug in the binaris on the CD ...
22:56 < Mike1> rxr: ok, i'm downloading atm cause i will build too, i need to test my updates to base and gnome2 ..
22:59 < Mike1> can anyone else test those isos please?
22:59 < Mike1> daja77 maybe?
22:59 < Mike1> rolla ?
22:59 < daja77> Mike1: nope too slow connection
23:00 < netrunner> Mike1: what arch?
23:00 < Mike1> netrunner: x86..
23:00 < Mike1> netrunner: please :)
23:00 < daja77> Mike1: I'll test realtime rock isos on wednesday :)
23:00 < netrunner> Mike1: optimization? where to get?
23:01 < Mike1> netrunner: http://drocklinux.dyndns.org/ftp/drock/unstable/2.0.0-beta4+fixes/
23:01 < daja77> pentium-mmx optimized
23:02 < Mike1> rxr: btw when did you increase your bandwidth? i remember your host been terribly slow some time ago.
23:03 < netrunner> hm ... *lookingaround* ... I fear I sold my p-mmx some month ago :(
23:03 < rxr> nope the gsmp.tfh-berlin.de server always was on a 155MBit/s backbone ...
23:04 < rxr> just last weekend (when I had to replace hardware and couldn't get it back to the university on saturday since nobody let me in) it was here at home ...
23:04 < Mike1> rxr: so drocklinux.dyndns.org = gsmp.tfh-berlin.de ?
23:04 < rxr> my schillernet should be as slower ...
23:04 < rxr> Mike1: yes
23:04 < rxr> and schillernet.dyndns.org is here at home
23:04 < Mike1> rxr: ah ok, some months ago it was ur in ur dsl :)
23:04 < rxr> I wanted to keep the old dyndns.org stuff since too many links point to it ...
23:05 < rxr> Mike1: yes - but this is nearly a year ago ...
23:05 < Mike1> rxr: hehe, i guess i have not downloaded much isos from there for a while...
23:05 < Mike1> *ggg*
23:07 < daja77> netrunner: pentuim-mmx builds are compatible with newer pcs
23:08 < netrunner> daja77: I know, but considering 10 pcs in my room I thought I'd have a suitable one :)
23:09 < mnemoc> which is the fork point (optimization) between amd and intel? p-pro? p2?
23:09 < mnemoc> dammit.... i need to lern to speak.... the higher common point
23:12 < rxr> was andreas here today ?
23:12 < Mike1> rxr: huebner?
23:13 < rxr> no err I meant alexander sears ...
23:13 < Mike1> hehe
23:13 < Mike1> haven't seen him
23:15 < daja77> netrunner: btw, you speak russian?
23:15 < rolla> == 16:19:35 =[3]=> Building base/procps [3.1.9 2.0.0-beta4].
23:15 < netrunner> 23:13 builder:      building job '9-courier-imap' (4086) ..
23:17 < rolla> netrunner: what are you building?
23:17 < daja77> gentoo?
23:17 * daja77 hides
23:18 * netrunner kicks daja77
23:19 < netrunner> rolla: I am building the rock. Call me syssiphus :)
23:19 < Mike1> netrunner: you didn't answer the question..
23:19 < Mike1> ah ok :
23:19 < daja77> I said the g word *getting red*
23:19 < rolla> netrunner: cluster build?
23:19 < Mike1> syssiphus ... can i call you Winnie Pooh?
23:19 < Mike1> *g*
23:20 < netrunner> but I found a *-gentoo.log in my logdir ... is gentoo now built within rock?
23:20 * Mike1 runs
23:20 < netrunner> rolla: yes, because of mp system.
23:20 < Mike1> rolla: never made a cluster build?
23:20 < rolla> nope
23:21 < Mike1> rolla: we will have to do that sometime :)
23:21 < Mike1> on your alphas..
23:21 < rxr> netrunner: gentoo is a filemanager ... (gtk+)
23:22 < daja77> ack
23:24 < netrunner> rxr: ah :)
23:25 * Mike1 ready to run a of eachone of the current targets + 2 commercial targets
23:25 < Mike1> this is going to be painfull..
23:25 < rxr> hey - maybe when s.o. talks about gentoo, I should always resonse: "What, the filemanger?" ;-)!
23:25 < daja77> hehe cool
23:25 < Mike1> rxr: full ack. :)
23:27 < netrunner> people tend to call their tools oses: emacs, gentoo ...
23:28 < daja77> this reminds of that cool answer a friend gave to a guy he said that windows should be used in schools, cos it is important for the economy
23:29 < daja77> he said: "if we should use computers which are important for industry, we should have mainframes at schools ..."
23:29 * netrunner gets 3MB/s from rxr's isos
23:31 < netrunner> hey ... the second comes only at ,5 ... what happened?
23:33 < daja77> daja77's black magic works :)
23:35 < rxr> netrunner: maybe more downloads form other people?`- But sometimes the routers in the Uni just fsck up ...
23:36 < netrunner> rxr: speed restored just now :)
23:36 < netrunner> I'll move them to my lap tomorrow when I am there.
23:37 < rxr> I tagged -beta5 - just preparing the ISO ...
23:37 < rxr> err s/ISO/tar-ball/
23:37 < rxr> the svn protocol is really flink ;-)!
23:38 < daja77> damn beta6 then tomorrow
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23:38 < rxr> daja77: why ?
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23:38 < alexander> Hi all
23:38 < daja77> hi alexander
23:38 < rxr> hi alexander !
23:38 < alexander> Whazzup?
23:38 < daja77> rxr: ah never mind
23:38 < rxr> alexander: how are you ?
23:38 < rxr> daja77: was this a joke - or do you have an important issue ?
23:39 < alexander> rxr, its fine, and you? Im building, let me se. Hmm
23:39 < alexander> ahh, stage 5 is building right now. Looking good :)
23:39 < daja77> rxr: I was just thinking loud, I#ll continue with my build at work as it is, and upgrading after I tested the isos
23:39 < alexander> daja77, Hi
23:40 < rxr> alexander: what was the reason for the iso server beeing down ?
23:40 < alexander> is there any nice way to know what packages have failed?
23:40 < alexander> rxr, ahh, i wrote you a letter just. Hmm, well i ran make dep in the kernel dir and it stoped to responde :(
23:41 < alexander> rxr. Hopfully nothing is broken and i can get it online soon :)
23:42 < alexander> I think all computers  should have a watchdog so they reboot when they hang :)
23:42 * netrunner 's watchdog lies to my feet sleeping.
23:43 < daja77> gn8 you all
23:43 < alexander> daja77 n8
23:44 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090BC70.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
23:44 < netrunner> n8 daja77
23:50 < alexander> Hurray :).. My patch applied with just some modifications. Im proud :)
23:52 < rxr> alexander: the linux kernel has a software watchdog ... - and the 2.5 one has even a new one ...
23:54 < rxr> I announced -beta5 ...
23:54 < Mike1> alexander: congratz for the patch.
23:56 < rxr> alexander: it shouldn't be the hard-disk - it would normally respond to network traffic in that case ...
23:56 < alexander> rxr, nice. I know lot of people are trying the build. But something we have to do before a release is hardtest the distro itself!! There are like almost no isos on the iso site (yeah i know its down) So we should fix that and fast :)
23:56 < alexander> Mike1, Hi mike. Thanx
23:56 < Mike1> :)
23:57 < alexander> rxr,, hmm, oki, then it might be that it had to little memory and i stressed it to much :(. Hope nothing have breaked :)
23:57 < rxr> alexander: yes - today I made a -beta2 and -beta4+fixes (nearly -beta5) available today ...
23:57 < rxr> the -beta4+fixen even for ppc!
23:58 < rxr> alexander: could you give daja77 an account - he seems to have quite nice ISOs ...
23:58 < rxr> and I like to release often - we are open-source - and when we find bugs we simply fix it and release the next release ...
23:59 < rxr> the "no-releases" thing is why ROCK was so success-less (user amount-wise) in the past ... - many user just use normal tar-ball releases ...
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