--- Log opened Tue Jun 17 00:00:42 2003
--- Day changed Tue Jun 17 2003
00:00 < alexander> rxr, yes i agree :).. We should have a 2.1 out soon. I think that is one of the problem with rock. That we have so many packages. We should draw a line. Say, oki, we go with this and atleast we have a working version instead of a giant not working one
00:01 < Mike1> alexander: most of our packages are stable..
00:02 < alexander> Mike1, yes i know :).. But a time ago they where not.. Ahh, well forget it :)
00:03 < Mike1> :P
00:04 * netrunner finishes his dwb and falls to bed.
00:04 < netrunner> n8 *
00:05 < rxr> alexander: one problem where too early devel tree's we'll wait some mont after 2.0.2 or so we will branch 2.1 (after the del meeting in Vienna)
00:06 < rxr> alexander: and the package count should not be a problem (we even should have more since FreeBSD and so have soem thousands ...)
00:07 < alexander> rxr, oki
00:07 < rxr> has someone some additions to this freshmeat changelog:
00:07 < rxr> linux24 updated to 2.4.21, SPARC support updates, a high-priority seg-fault with nssdb was fixed, some security and normal updates, help text for most Config options where added and some packages got added (the toal count is now 822).
00:08 < rxr> (I now the help text where already in -bet4 - but I forgot to write this on freshmeat ...)
00:08 < alexander> rxr, who maintains the mirror thing of the source? I think i could spare some spake for it on the iso site. It would speed up my builds :)
00:09 < rxr> cliff - but we decided that we have enough for now (we just added infrstructure fot 2.0 mirrors)
00:10 < rxr> my sources will show up on the mirror sites in the next days ...
00:10 < rxr> cu - we are jogging again ...
00:11 < netrunner> rxr: jogging? at this time?
00:11 < netrunner> urgs, forgot that I went to bed already :)
00:12 < alexander> I need to go aswell, cya all
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00:19 < jose> hello everybody!
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00:26 < rxr> netrunner: yes ...
00:26 * rxr back
00:28 < rxr> cu - off to bed
00:37 < Freak> cya
00:41 < esden> hi all
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01:38 < mart193> hey anyone tries beta4?
01:39 < mart193> it seems like kernel is panicing when booting from cd1 to start install
01:39 < mart193> any solution?
01:39 < mart193> im talking about 2.0beta4
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03:05 < mart193> hi
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08:50 < netrunner> moin
09:00 < esden> moin
09:06 * netrunner found a really big screw in his backight tire yesterday. that looks out like 0.5 cm :(
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09:21 < Auzain> morgen
09:26 * netrunner can't reach schillernet.dyndns.org
10:00 < blindcoder> hi all
10:01 < netrunner> hi blindy
10:09 < Auzain> someone know what version of rock-src is include in drock-beta4+
10:14 < Auzain> is it still 1.7?
10:26 < blindcoder> no, that should be the Desktop Target of 2.0.0-beta4
10:27 < Auzain> blindcoder: thanks
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11:09 < daja77> moin
11:10 < Auzain> moinmoin daja77
11:10 < daja77> hey Auzain :)
11:11 < Auzain> i see there are new iso :-,
11:12 < esden> re hi all
11:12 < esden> good morning everyone
11:12 < Auzain> i'm about downloading, is the 3rd necessary?
11:12 < esden> is the weather not beautyfull? ;-)
11:13 < Auzain> esden: to beautyfull, 30° :p
11:13 < daja77> hi esden
11:13 < esden> 30 is very good temperature .. not too hot and not too cold
11:14 * daja77 wants to get on esden's nerves again :)
11:16 < Auzain> tendenz schteigend
11:16 < daja77> Auzain: huh I thought you live in the mountains ...
11:17 < esden> daja77: ??? ... how?
11:18 < Auzain> this mountains are like schwartz wald, but whitout trees :-(
11:19 < daja77> you should have moved to the sea instead ...
11:23 < Auzain> and what's about the 3rd drock cd?
11:23 < daja77> you'll need them!
11:23 < daja77> :)
11:23 < daja77> them all
11:23 < daja77> I mean
11:23 < Auzain> ok
11:24 < daja77> wasting other people's bandwith is fun ...
11:25 < Auzain> bandwith?
11:25 < daja77> bandbreite
11:25 < daja77> bandwidth, that is
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11:26 < Auzain> bandbreite ok, wasting?
11:27 < daja77> *lol* esden's quote in the stats is funny
11:27 < daja77> Auzain: verschwenden
11:27 * daja77 considering sending some spam to esden
11:28 < Auzain> hehe
11:29 < Auzain> but, what's with your bandwhidth?
11:34 < daja77> nothing is with that
11:35 < blindcoder> q - the invisible +4 Mjollnir (weapon in hand)
11:35 < blindcoder> *LOL*
11:38 < Auzain> no http://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux today?
11:41 < daja77> try svn:// instead of http://
11:43 < Auzain> svn: is not a registered protacol (he say)
11:46 < Auzain> it's schillernet who is broken...
11:48 < daja77> well tell rene, not me ;-)
11:48 * daja77 off now
11:49 < daja77> cu
11:49 < Auzain> bis bald
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12:01 < netrunner> re
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12:05 < netrunner> --- schillernet.dyndns.org ping statistics ---
12:05 < netrunner> 34 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss
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14:25 < rxr_> re
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14:30 < rolla> re
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14:48 < Auzain> re
14:49 < rxr> cool the ROCK-2.0 source mirror files tart to show up ;-)!
14:49 < Auzain> hi rxr
14:50 < Auzain> nobody maintains enlightenment by rocklinux?
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14:57 < Auzain> die 4 muskeltiere sind zurück lol
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15:04 < Auzain> die 4 muskeltiere sind zurück lol
15:11 < rxr> Auzain: selfbuild -beta4 ISO - or an downloaded one ß
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15:12 < Auzain> rxr: a downloaded, why?
15:13 < Auzain> are they not good?
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15:25 < rxr> Auzain: jups - they should be good
15:25 < rxr> which one exactly? Have you already installed ?
15:27 < Auzain> i'm downloading the second cd, will install it this evening
15:29 < Mike1> moin.
15:29 < Mike1> ping esden
15:31 < rxr> hi Mike1
15:31 < Mike1> hi Ren. :)
15:34 < rxr> strange I have nothing in the logs of the reconnect event this morning ...
15:35 < Auzain> rxr: i'm downloading from gsmp.tfh-berlin.de beta4+fixes
15:35 < rxr> I really wonder why my DSL ppp0 is still up ...
15:35 < rxr> really magic ...
15:35 < rxr> Auzain: I hope the x86 ISO is ok - I only had the time to test the PPC iso ... :-(
15:35 < Auzain> i will you say it tomorrow ;-)
15:36 < Auzain> is there a way to not use the 3rd cd?
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15:38 < mart193> hi
15:38 < mart193> why kernel panic with beta4?
15:38 < rxr> Auzain: sorry the paackages on the CDs are not really sorted - (I'll add such a fature the next days)
15:38 < rxr> mart193: oh really? :-(
15:38 < mart193> beta5 you mean?
15:39 < rxr> mart193: when you start the normal installation boot by pressing enter?
15:39 < mart193> yes
15:39 < rxr> mart193: oh :-(
15:40 < Auzain> I confirm, just boot it
15:40 < Auzain> no init found
15:40 < rxr> Auzain: oh - I have only tested the ppc one .-(
15:40 < rxr> I'll fix this.
15:40 < mart193> is there any way that the kernel will not go to panic status, when booting beta4 cd1 to install rock binaries?
15:40 < Auzain> can we try init=something?
15:41 < rxr> you can use rsync later to correct your ISO from the server without redownloading the wohle one ...
15:42 < mart193> it seems like its not a bad burne either cat /dev/cdrom > al.iso               md5sum matches
15:42 < mart193> hmm. rxr: how can I do that?
15:42 < rxr> I tell you when I fixed the ISO ...
15:42 < mart193> rsync I mean
15:48 < mart193> ok
15:51 < rolla> rxr is the svn server down?
15:51 < rxr> rolla: it sould not
15:51 < rolla> ah it is back up now
15:52 < rolla> earlier it could not be gotten to
15:52 < rxr> the provider did some strange stuff this morning ...
15:52 < rxr> see ML
15:52 < rolla> ah
15:54 < mart193> rxr: tell me the rsync command then when the beta4 iso is fixed
15:56 < rxr> jups - sme momemts (hopefuly only some moments ...)
16:03 < Auzain> ok: must go, I'll retry tomorrow ...
16:03 < Auzain> bis bald
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16:09 < rxr> mart193: you haved some more minutes and a cd-rw handy?
16:09 < mart193> yes
16:10 < mart193> i burne to platinum cd-rw-s
16:10 < daja77> re
16:10 < rxr> hi daja77
16:10 < daja77> hi rxr
16:10 < daja77> any news about that bootdisk target bug?
16:11 < rxr> jups - somehow initrc does not made it onto the CD ...
16:11 < rxr> I'll just hack this remotely into the image since I have not the vanilla files for a rebuild here ...
16:11 < daja77> do you think we get this working 'til next tuesday?
16:12 < rxr> daja77: I'll take some extra care about this the next time - and I might also add some sanity checks so such cippled ISOs are not produced by the script ...
16:12 < daja77> :-)
16:12 < rxr> daja77: you mean in the script - or in my -beta4+fixes iso ?
16:13 < daja77> in the script, I'd build the isos myself
16:13 < rxr> normally it works (for me) - but if this ever fails for me again I'll fix the bug and add more checks ...
16:15 < daja77> it would be nice to take some fresh isos to magdeburg next week :)
16:20 < rxr> yes - it would be
16:20 < rxr> untils then my official -beta5 build will finish, too
16:22 < daja77> it is cheaper for me to build the isos myself then downloading yours :^)
16:22 < rxr> sure - but you can give them the URL ... so many will download ... (later) I guess
16:24 < daja77> sure, but I'll have a laptop with cd burner there ...
16:25 < rxr> mart193: still around ?
16:26 < rxr> rsync -avP --stats rsync://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/public/ftp/test_cd1.iso drock-2.0.0-beta4+fixes-x86_cd1.iso
16:26 < rxr> all in one line of course
16:27 < rxr> If you have rsync installed (you are on a unix/linux?) this syncs the new test ISO I just modified with the one on your harddisk
16:27 < rxr> of course you must wither be in the same dir - or specify the correct relative / absoloue path
16:27 < rxr> (how much Unix skills do you have?)
16:28 < Mike1> rxr does that iso solve the issue of the one i tested yesterday?
16:28 < rxr> and could you post the final output - I'm very interested
16:28 < rxr> Mike1: I hope so - could you try in vmware? I have no x86 box near me
16:28 < rxr> (me desk is now PPC and SPARC only ...)
16:28 < Mike1> rxr: iw ill try on 2 boxes and vmware if you want
16:28 < rxr> Mike1: you can use the rsync to get your ISO in sync
16:28 < daja77> rxr: strange *ggg*
16:28 < rxr> Mike1: that would be nice
16:29 < rxr> could someone post the final rsync output of --stats? I would like to know how much the CD fiffers ...
16:29 < rxr> s/fiffers/differs/
16:29 < rxr> daja77: ? Hm - the x86 thing ?
16:29 < Mike1> receiving file list ...
16:29 < Mike1> 1 file to consider
16:30 < rxr> Mike1: I hope you run it on the correct ISO ;-) *g*
16:30 < Mike1> rxr: yes :)
16:30 < rolla> == 09:32:25 =[0]=> Building base/glibc23 [2.3.2 2.0.0-beta5].
16:30 < daja77> rxr: yes ...
16:30 < Mike1> drock-2.0.0-beta4+fixes-x86_cd1.iso
16:30 < Mike1>    141051904  22%    3.87MB/s    0:02:018
16:31 < rolla> Mike1: when are the fixes going to be in svn?
16:31 < Mike1> rolla: you mean the gnome updates?
16:32 < Mike1> rolla: i will send them to rxr once my build is finished and i have fixed any possible problem that may show up with them.
16:32 < Mike1> hopefully no problems will show up, but i try to be realistic :)
16:39 < Mike1> rxr: i'm done syncing, would you like me to paste the output to you on a query?
16:40 < rxr> where you like ...
16:41 < Mike1> rxr: don't wanna be killed for pasting such thing here :)
16:42 < rxr> ok - the querry was just fine ...
16:43 * rxr just doing more PR work ...
16:43 < rxr> http://www.penguinppc.org/ - this time ...
16:43 < Mike1> rxr: it would be nice to make some nice cd labels to give away some cds when stable 2.0 is released
16:44 < rxr> I have a nice label from drock I really liked ...
16:44 < rxr> I can upload it later ...
16:44 < Mike1> yes let me know when you upload it so i can see it
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16:45 < rxr> mart193: do you rsync the new CD ?
16:46 * rxr listening to the Reloaded soundtrack in loop since last Sat ...
16:46 < mart193> yes im doing it now
16:47 < mart193> but your file begins with test mine drock
16:47 < rxr> yes - this is just a test for now
16:48 < rxr> if it works I
16:48 < rxr> 'll move the file over the other ...
16:49 < daja77> huh, was the soundtrack that good, compared to the bad movie?
16:50 < rxr> daja77: you did not liked it?
16:51 < daja77> the movie, no
16:51 * rxr is not speaking to daja77 anymore ...
16:51 < rxr> no joke
16:51 < rxr> I also expected more ...
16:52 < mart193> rsync: getaddrinfo: gsmp.tth-berlin.de 873: Name or service not known rsync error: error in socket IO (code 10) at clientserver.c(83)
16:52 < rxr> can you ping the box? It worked for Mike1  ...
16:52 < mart193> dunno first time Im trying to use rsync :)
16:52 < daja77> rxr: I like the name Matrix: Refunded, for it :)
16:53 < rxr> are you behind a firewall ? I have nothing in the syslog from your rsync-attempt ...
16:53 < rxr> mart193: I just rechecked - works from here ...
16:54 < mart193> no Im not behind firewall
16:55 < rxr> can you ping the box ?
16:55 < rxr> (but please not too much ping - it is configured to drop too many pings ..)
16:55 < mart193>  rsync -avP --stats rsync://gsmp.tth-berlin.de/public/ftp/setup-2.0.0-beta4+fixes-x86_cd1.iso rsync-path=/mnt/hda8/stuff/distros/drock-2.0.0-beta4+fixes-x86_cd1.iso
16:55 < rxr> mart193: ah there is the bug ...
16:56 < mart193> how can I ping? tell the command
16:56 < rxr> rsync -avP --stats rsync://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/public/ftp/test_cd1.iso /mnt/hda8/stuff/distros/drock-2.0.0-beta4+fixes-x86_cd1.iso
16:57 < rxr> mart193: ping gsmp.tfh-berlin.de
16:57 < mart193> heh, aah ok
16:58 < mart193> ping: unknown host gsmp.tth-berlin.de
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16:59 < rxr> gsmp.tfh-berlin.de
16:59 < rxr> you need to do less typos ;-)
16:59 < rxr> the name to ip resolution does not use a neuronal net to perform guesses ... ;-)
17:01 * daja77 off again
17:01 < daja77> cu
17:01 < rxr> cu daja77
17:02 < mart193> thnx, its processing rsync now, ill give the output when its ready
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17:05 < rxr> ok
17:05 < rxr> Mike1: do you have some results for the ISO yet?
17:05 < mart193> hmm, its done
17:06 < rxr> mart193: rsync is fast - only the binary differeces got transmitted ..
17:06 < mart193> increadably fast
17:07 < mart193> i cant understand how did it download 2,5 MB/s
17:08 < mart193> or I didnt read it right?
17:08 < mart193> since i have 512kb/s connection
17:09 < rxr> this is just the "virtual" transfer speed. The rsync application only transferred the differences of the two files - so only some blocks got transfered - and the rest was kept. This is why I wanted you to rsync the binary instead of a full new download
17:09 < rxr> the statistic at the end will tell you how much was transfered ...
17:09 < rxr> (just some blocks ...)
17:10 < mart193> yep, ok Ill try to boot it, be back on the channel if I succeed :)
17:10 < Mike1> rxr: one moment, i was troubleshooting a client..
17:11 < rxr> mart193: yes thank - maybe I need to fix more - so we just rersync again if there is still a problem ...
17:11 < rxr> mart193: Mike1: thanks for testing to you both :-)!
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17:13 < Mike1> rxr: no problem :)
17:14 < Mike1> rxr: ok i have results
17:14 < rxr> good ?
17:14 < Mike1> rxr: it didn't sent a kernel panic error to me and reached stage1
17:14 * rxr only wanna hear success stories ...
17:14 < Mike1> but when trying to get stage 2..
17:15 < Mike1> it couldnt find 2nd_stage.tar.gz
17:15 < Mike1> so of course linuxrc was not found..
17:16 < rxr> no linuxrc was found - otherwise it would not let you to the selection stuff ...
17:16 < Mike1> mom i sent you a secreenshot
17:17 < rxr> you got to the 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. ... menu ?
17:17 < Mike1> yeah
17:17 < rxr> ok mom
17:17 < Mike1> but then when i say 5
17:17 < Mike1> it failes and takes me back to the 1234.. menu
17:17 < Mike1> can dcc a screenshot to you ?
17:18 < rxr> jups
17:18 < rxr> but the files are on the CD ...
17:19 < Mike1> its weird.
17:20 < rxr> oh wait - damn.
17:20 < rxr> maybe the linuxrc has a hardcoded version number ?
17:21 < Mike1> mm might be..
17:22 < rxr> I'll take a look in a sec
17:22 < daja77> re
17:23 < rxr> hi daja77
17:23 < daja77> ahem hi ...
17:23 < rxr> Mike1: yes - it has ...
17:24 < Mike1> rxr: grrr.. so create a new iso..
17:24 < rxr> jups - me just figuring out how to edit it ...
17:24 < Mike1> rxr: http://odin.informatica.co.cr/~mike/rxr.png
17:24 < tfing> 403
17:25 < tfing> better
17:25 < tfing> hi everybody btw
17:25 < Mike1> hi tfing
17:25 < rxr> tfing: hi
17:26 < daja77> hehe todays google logo is cool
17:26 < rxr> Mike1: on the shoot you also see the hardcoded -beta3 one ...
17:26 < Mike1> rxr: scheisse, i didn't notice that..
17:27 < Mike1> a softlink woul dbe a nasty solution..
17:28 < rxr> Mike1: I justed vi'ed the binary ...
17:28 < rxr> mom - in a few secs you can re-rsync ...
17:29 < Mike1> rxr: ok /me waiting
17:29 * rxr cunning mkisofs ...
17:30 < rolla> Mike1: kde?
17:30 < rxr> s/cunning/running/
17:30 < rolla> Mike1: redhat?
17:32 < rxr> Mike1: finished - please rerun rsync - same file ...
17:33 < Mike1> rolla: gnome2 + rh yeah
17:34 < Mike1> ok
17:34 < Mike1> ryncing..
17:34 < Mike1> rsyncing*
17:35 < Mike1> rxr: when will you fix the insmod errors?
17:35 < rolla> ahhhhh
17:35 < rolla> I feel dirty
17:35 < daja77> why?
17:36 < Mike1> rolla: did you sleep with daja77?
17:36 < Mike1> *ggg* /me runs
17:36 * daja77 stops Mike1 with a baseball bat
17:37 < Mike1> ouch!
17:37 < daja77> hehe
17:38 < rxr> btw - already tried s.th. lie:
17:39 < rxr> export XCURSOR_THEME=whiteglass
17:39 < daja77> spielmatz :-)
17:39 < rxr> in an xfree (4.3) terminal adn lunch new X progs in it ?
17:39 < rxr> or redglass or tuxcursor ;-)
17:40 < Mike1> rxr: sync ready, burning..
17:40 < rxr> oki
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17:52 < mart193> ok it booted now beta4+fixes I mean , but cant get into second stage claims abaout missing linux_rc file
17:55 < rxr> linux_rx ?
17:55 < rxr> err linux_rc ?
17:55 < rxr> didn't it complain about a mising stage2-.... ?
17:55 < mart193> I guess it was something like that yes
17:56 < rxr> I already fixed the stage2 is missing thing - you could re-rsync (the same command as some minutes ago ..)
17:56 < mart193> ok
17:56 < rxr> or you can wait for Mike1 to say yes it works now - or still another issue ...
17:56 < rxr> Mike1: are you already vmwareing ??
18:01 < mart193> so all the distro is compatible with vmware?
18:01 < mart193> hmm, thats nice
18:02 < daja77> rxr: btw svn 0.24.1 is out ;-)
18:03 < rxr> daja77: so we should update now ;-) ?
18:03 < rxr> Mike1: sure
18:03 < rxr> also with Mac On Linux ;-) (Free PowerPC virtualization ...)
18:03 < mart193> ok, than its a burne again :)
18:03 < daja77> I am not sure if I got all discussion right, will ask again
18:05 < daja77> rxr: we should upgrade ;-)
18:06 < daja77> <@sussman> there is MAYBE, possibly, a chance we'll do a 0.24.2
18:06 < daja77> strange guy ...
18:06 < rxr> daja77: jups - I'm on the channel, too
18:07 < daja77> ic, forgot about that *ggg*
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18:07 < rxr> daja77: why - I also know tons of bugs in ROCK and we will have some releases before 2.0.0 (which will also be not bug-free ...)
18:08 < daja77> rxr: sorry what is your question, why upgrade or why not upgrade?
18:08 < rxr> daja77: maybe you coudl say some "works great for me - and I like the overall design of svn, too) - on the ROCK Linux list ?
18:08 < rxr> daja77: sure - i'll update
18:08 < daja77> okis
18:08 < daja77> rxr: shall I start a flame?
18:08 < rxr> I just wanted to say that it is normal that a product has known issues - so we continously work on them ...
18:09 < daja77> yeah right, but the 0.24 was too bad, according to the people who used that
18:09 < rxr> the really cool think it: One person at university now has ROCK on hi iBook - and it is the best PPC dist (tried Yellow Dog Linux and debian) he ever had on ti ...)
18:09 < rxr> daja77: you said this - so I did not updated ...
18:10 < daja77> hehe didn't know that I had such a strong influence ...
18:10 < rxr> ;-)
18:11 < Mike1> rxr: the new image works.
18:11 < daja77> fsck I got fortran code to convert to c *gna*
18:12 < rolla> lucky you daja77
18:12 < daja77> rolla always there to bug you at the right time *ggg*
18:13 < rxr> Mike1: ok - do you do a full install to verify ?
18:13 < Mike1> rxr: doing it.
18:13 < rxr> Mike1: many thanks!2
18:13 < Mike1> rxr: will report more once its done.
18:13 < Mike1> rxr: no need to thank me my friend.
18:15 < rolla> :)
18:15 < rolla> daja77: I have started my beta5 build
18:15 < rolla> tonight I load beta4 on my laptop
18:15 < rolla> or try should I say
18:16 < rxr> Mike1: the U5 is at 5-curl
18:16 < rolla> rxr you let me know when you have a working iso
18:16 < rolla> I have a U10 I can load that on
18:16 < rxr> hm - if I should put much affort into getting a 2.0 with bootable SPARC support =
18:17 < daja77> Committed revision 2. :-)
18:17 < Mike1> rxr: this is great!
18:18 < rxr> daja77: Mike1: sould the next release be -rc1 or -beta6 ???
18:18 < rolla> == 10:15:23 =[1]=> Building base/linux24 [2.4.21 2.0.0-beta5].
18:18 < daja77> beta6
18:18 < rolla> rxr I say rc1
18:19 < rxr> more votes ?
18:19 < Mike1> gimme i say gimme 2 more hours to test everything in current beta, then i will have something to base my vote on
18:20 < Mike1> rxr: ok?
18:20 < daja77> sounds reasonable
18:20 < rolla> true. daja77 why do you think it should still be beta?
18:20 < rxr> Mike1: nope - I need to version bump now (svn commit)
18:20 < rxr> then I label this -beta6
18:20 < rxr> release early release often ...
18:20 < daja77> rolla: too many bugs for a rc if you ask me
18:20 < Mike1> rxr: ok make it rc1
18:21 < rolla> daja77: what bugs?
18:21 < rxr> Mike1: nah - now I just wrote -beta6
18:21 < rolla> daja77: other than 2.5 kernel build issues I have seen not that many
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18:21 < rxr> the more releases - the more PR ;-)
18:21 < Mike1> rxr: ok.
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18:21 < daja77> rolla: good for you
18:21 < rolla> rxr: okay
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18:22 < Mike1> yo blindy
18:22 < rolla> daja77: what bugs have you found?
18:22 < daja77> rxr: btw what happened to the nvidia package?
18:22 < rxr> daja77: why ?
18:22 < daja77> I havent found it on my build ...
18:22 < rxr> you did a desktop build ?
18:22 < daja77> yes
18:23 < rxr> I do not include it into the desktop build ... :-(
18:23 < daja77> I am doin generic right now
18:23 < daja77> ah ic
18:23 < rxr> what are the exact redistribution conditions of it ?
18:23 < daja77> pfff, mom
18:24 < rxr> you can then also double check with the license tag in it's .desc file ..
18:25 < daja77> 2.1.2  Linux Exception.  Notwithstanding the foregoing terms of Section 2.1.1, SOFTWARE designed exclusively for use on the Linux operating system may be copied and redistributed, provided that the binary files thereof are not modified in any way (except for unzipping of compressed fi
18:25 < daja77> is this ok for you?
18:27 < rxr> hm
18:27 < rxr> I do not like the binary - in the past it always crashed on me - and I do not like tht this fscked company is not providing documents ...
18:27 < daja77> me neither but the latest releases of their drivers worked fine
18:28 < rxr> the more people use this fscked fluff the less like we get docs - or alpha, ppc, ... support ..
18:29 < daja77> nah the only chance is that more people buying ati instead of nvidia
18:29 < daja77> but I'd appreciate the shipping of nvidia drivers very much, it reduces the end users work on these machines
18:33 < rxr> jups - I never bought an nvidia chip ...
18:34 < daja77> I did ...
18:34 < daja77> I was young and needed working OpenGL hw under linux ...
18:35 * rxr only placed Matrox and Ati cards into workstations ...
18:35 < daja77> bah Matrix Cards are slow
18:35 < rxr> Too bad that Matrox does not open the 3d stuff for the parhelia ...
18:35 < rxr> daja77: when they where actual they where fast ...
18:36 < rxr> (ok 3d not that fast - but 2d is superb)
18:36 < daja77> when I had to do opengl programming they weren't
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18:36 < daja77> ;-)
18:37 * daja77 now checking nvidia.desc license and then off to faculty bbq
18:38 < daja77> do you know which repo it is?
18:38 < rxr> tsa
18:38 < rxr> but find is your friend ...
18:39 < daja77> and time is my enemy ;-)
18:41 < rxr> oO rene is the biggest rep after base ?
18:41 < daja77> hail to rxr
18:41 < rxr> rene@mac:/home/rene/develop/rock/rock-trunk/package$ ls -l base/ | wc -l
18:41 < rxr>     207
18:41 < rxr> rene@mac:/home/rene/develop/rock/rock-trunk/package$ ls -l rene | wc -l
18:41 < rxr>     160
18:42 < rxr> oO
18:43 < daja77> cool we have a postgres package ;-)
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18:47 < rolla> grr
18:47 < daja77> ??
18:47 < rolla> I tell Config not to build 2.5 kernel yet it still does
18:47 < daja77> vi packages.txt?
18:47 < rolla> I should not have to do that
18:48 < rxr> rolla: I'm sure this worked here ..
18:48 < rxr> what is the exact stuff you entered to not build the linux25 stuff?
18:49 < rolla> is it not under kernel option to tell it to not build 2.5 ?
18:49 < rolla> or do I have to do a O linux25*
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18:49 < rxr> rolla: not anymore - I changed this ..
18:50 < rolla> when?
18:50 < rxr> some weeks ago ..
18:50 < rolla> hmm I have newest beta5 source
18:51 < rolla> but oh well O linux25* works for me
18:54 < daja77> [L] Free-to-use
18:54 < daja77> for nvidia package, sounds ok for me
18:55 * daja77 off now
18:55 < daja77> cu later
19:04 < rxr> cu daja77
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19:57 < dreamind> Hi =)
19:58 < rolla> re
20:10 < rxr> re
20:10 < rxr> l
20:11 < Mike1> wb rxr
20:12 -!- hackbard [frank-z@pc05ep4.Physik.Uni-Augsburg.DE] has joined #rocklinux
20:12 < hackbard> hi!
20:12 < Mike1> hi Frank.
20:12 < hackbard> Mike1: :)
20:12 < hackbard> i was looking for you, nice ur online
20:12 < hackbard> i need a babelfish ;)
20:12 < hackbard> ger-espagnol :)
20:12 < Mike1> looking for me? how can i help you?
20:13 < Mike1> ger-espanol? whats up?
20:19 < rxr> hi hackbard
20:21 -!- alexander [~alexander@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux
20:21 < alexander> Hi all
20:21 < Mike1> yo Alex
20:21 < alexander> Mike1, yoyo, whaaazzup?
20:21 < Mike1> nothing much, how are you ?
20:21 < alexander> Mike1, im fine.. I quit my job today. Huurraay
20:22 < Mike1> hehe
20:22 < alexander> Mike1, wow, im feeling so lucky. Now i shall study 100%
20:22 < Mike1> so what are you going to do for a living now?
20:23 -!- Robe [E0F@oktoberfest.amd.co.at] has joined #rocklinux
20:23 < alexander> Mike1, i had a spare time network admin job at the university. But the people there didnt understand a thing and when they are planing on getting the whole thing into mac i decided to quit. Oki, apple pc's look good but they are way to expensive for their budget and dont last long
20:23 < Robe> servus.
20:23 < Robe> clifford da?
20:23 < alexander> Robe???
20:24 < Robe> I'm looking for mr. wolf
20:24 < alexander> Robe,,oki? :) I think you have to wait for fullmoon
20:24 < Mike1> Robe: Clifford is not around at the moment, but if we can be of any help to you
20:25 < Robe> I just wonder why he spammed one of my mailinglists with party advertisements
20:25 < rxr> alexander: how are you (and the iso server?)
20:25 < alexander> rxr, Hi, well im fine, and you, hmm, I chatting with the person in charge of it right now. Lets se what he does in some minutes :)
20:26 < Mike1> Robe: mm...
20:27 < rxr> alexander: nice  - I have some massive amount of rsync data for it ...
20:27 < Mike1> Robe: you can contact him at clifford@clifford.at
20:27 < Robe> will do
20:27 < rxr> Cool: 10.23 GB data delivered by gsmp.tfh-berlin.de today !
20:27 < Robe> hm, does rock linux need any additional mirrors?
20:28 < alexander> rxr, ahh, oki, i think i removed your account when i cleand up the site :).. Hmm,, i was planing on shifting the iso site design and all. Havent had time to work on the new that much.
20:28 < Mike1> Robe: mirrors are always welcome
20:28 < Robe> how much space do I need?
20:29 < Mike1> rxr: a little help here please
20:29 < alexander> uhh, about 40gb. The space is not an issue. I think its the line that matters
20:29 < Robe> not for me
20:29 < rxr> Robe: nice - an additional ISO mirror would be nice
20:30 < Robe> need to fetch some ide-drives first
20:30 < rxr> I normally prefer rsync over ssh ...
20:30 < alexander> got to go for a while. Have to take my girlfriend for a walk. Be back in 30 min
20:30 < Mike1> Robe: would be interested in donating a mirror for isos?
20:30 < Robe> lol
20:30 < Mike1> alexander: so you don't have a dog? :P
20:30 < Robe> Mike1: I only got ~5 GB free anymore
20:30 < alexander> Hmm, uhh, dont tell my girlfriend i said that. It look rather funny when i read it :)
20:31 < alexander> cya brb
20:31 < rxr> cu alexander
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20:32 < Mike1> Robe: mmm... so i guess you coul dhelp us been a mirror for packages perhaps
20:32 < Mike1> rxr: how much space does any of our pkg mirrors need?
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20:38 < rxr> you mean .gem files ?
20:38 < Mike1> nah, .tar.bz2 ...
20:38 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@IP-213157026243.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has joined #rocklinux
20:38 < Mike1> rxr: eg. gd.tuwien and all others
20:39 < Mike1> ping esden
20:42 < rxr> Mike1: ah source files ...
20:42 < rxr> 1-2 GB
20:48 < rolla> cool my build rolls on
20:49 < Mike1> Robe: we could use 3gb of ur hd space for mirror..
20:53 < Robe> ah, ok
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21:05 < rxr> 2.5G    latest
21:05 < rxr> 1.6G    stable
21:05 < rxr> 2.2G    unstable
21:05 < rxr> 6.2G    total
21:06 < rxr> this is the data-set I currently push to mirror sites ...
21:06 < rxr> the complete set is:
21:06 < rxr> 2.4G    stable
21:06 < rxr> 13G     unstable
21:06 < rxr> 15G     total
21:06 < rxr> ^-- official dRock binaries ...
21:25 -!- Robin_Root [Robin_Root@ip217-2-23.dialup.edisontel.com] has joined #rocklinux
21:25 < Robin_Root> Hi
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21:36 < alexander> Ahh, im backs
21:37 < rxr> hi
21:37 * rxr is soon away jogging with his girlfrind, too ...
21:38 < alexander> rxr, oki, iso site up
21:38 < alexander> what does this mena. Linux bluescreen?
21:38 < alexander> Jun 15 22:04:28 oggy kernel: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000001
21:38 < alexander> Jun 15 22:04:28 oggy kernel:  printing eip:
21:38 < alexander> Jun 15 22:04:28 oggy kernel: 00000001
21:38 < alexander> Jun 15 22:04:28 oggy kernel: *pde = 00000000
21:39 < alexander> Jun 15 22:04:28 oggy kernel: Oops: 0000
21:39 < alexander> Jun 15 22:04:28 oggy kernel: CPU:    0
21:39 < alexander> Jun 15 22:04:28 oggy kernel: EIP:    0010:[<00000001>]    Not tainted
21:39 < alexander> Jun 15 22:04:28 oggy kernel: EFLAGS: 00010246
21:39 < alexander> Jun 15 22:04:28 oggy kernel: eax: 00000001   ebx: c290bfa4   ecx: c290bfa4   edx: 00000000
21:39 < alexander> Jun 15 22:04:28 oggy kernel: esi: c11d8cf8   edi: c02bdb68   ebp: c11d8c00   esp: c19bbf80
21:39 < alexander> Jun 15 22:04:28 oggy kernel: ds: 0018   es: 0018   ss: 0018
21:39 < alexander> Jun 15 22:04:28 oggy kernel: Process nfsd (pid: 16788, stackpage=c19bb000)
21:39 < alexander> Jun 15 22:04:28 oggy kernel: Stack: c0220f28 c11d8c00 c19ba000 ffffe000 c19ba000 c19ba564 c11d8da0 00000000
21:39 < alexander> Jun 15 22:04:28 oggy kernel:        c19ba000 00000000 00000000 00000000 c19ba000 00000000 00000000 c01637c4
21:39 < alexander> Jun 15 22:04:28 oggy kernel: Call Trace:    [svc_recv+616/972] [nfsd+200/740] [kernel_thread+40/56]
21:39 < alexander> Jun 15 22:04:28 oggy kernel:
21:39 < alexander> Jun 15 22:04:28 oggy kernel: Code:  Bad EIP value.
21:39 < alexander> Jun 15 22:04:28 oggy kernel:  <4>lockd_up: no pid, 2 users??
21:39 < alexander> Can i  draw any conclusions out of this?
21:39 < rxr> hm - most likely a kernel bug  - this is the register set with backtrace
21:39 < rxr> you could decode it with ksymoops
21:40 < rxr> when you have the System.map of this kernel - and see in wich funtion this happen
21:40 < alexander> Well, i think i can use my golden law. If it happens one time its no time. The second time you can begin to wounder. the third time - begin to investergate
21:40 < rxr> normally this is caused by an programmin mistake ...
21:40 < alexander> rxr, well, im switching to 2.4.21 as im compiling som nfs code that i nee
21:40 < alexander> d
21:41 < rxr> alexander: please only change this if you relly need to - we need a running iso site ...
21:41 * rxr is trying to sync ...
21:41 < alexander> rxr.. I dont think it is a problem
21:41 < alexander> rxr, i think your user is gone :(.. We have to fix a new one
21:41 < rxr> alexander: could we do this now ?
21:42 < alexander> yupp
21:42 < rxr> the user was rene
21:52 * Mike1 just sent the most pathetic and simple "patch" ever to the rlml
21:52 * Mike1 away eating.
21:54 < alexander> Ahh, finaly iso site up and running :)
21:55 < rxr> alexander: I'm syncing ...
21:55 < alexander> rxr, great :)
21:55 < alexander> How much is it?
21:56 < rxr> but I need some minutes later this night to reread how to convert openssh ssh public keys and so ... to automate this ...
21:57 < alexander> rxr, oki, well, like i said, when i got the time i will buy a new computer for myself and then the iso site will be a new one. Im not gona use rock 1.4 for that and therefore i think its gona be openssh :)
21:57 < alexander> Im planing on using rock 2.0 :)
21:57 < rxr> hm - because the modification time changed due to the chmod - it is just checking all checksums ...
21:58 < rxr> but let's this ssh on the box as it is - since we need access ;-)
21:58 < alexander> rxr, ups :(.. Hmm, and it takes a while for my old p133 with those realy old slow diskcontrollers
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21:59 < alexander> rxr, jupp, i will not tuch this box, except for the kernel thing im updating :)
21:59 < alexander> rxr, is it going to be a release anounce?
22:00 < rxr> I announced -beta5 yesterday. ISOs are still buliding, but they will follow in soem days ...
22:00 < rxr> for now your server will get:
22:01 < rxr> 2.0.0-beta3
22:01 < rxr> 2.0.0-beta4+fixes
22:01 < rxr> and a powerpc alpha ...
22:01 < rxr> plus the ppc stuff in beta and beta4+fixes ..
22:01 < alexander> nice. I tried beta1 and i couldent do a thing with it. Not even compile the kernel :(.. Is this fixed? I would gladly replace my suse installation right away. Just have to find a way to use those rpms on rock
22:02 < alexander> nice :)
22:02 < rxr> the linux24 package should compile - sure
22:03 < rxr> we have only very few package fails ...
22:03 < alexander> We have alreade had like 8000 unique visitors this year on the iso site :)
22:03 < rxr> alexander: you can browse a regression tester I have running for some days now:
22:03 < alexander> rxr, the thing was that i couldnt compile a new kurnel running the distro
22:04 < rxr> http://schillernet.dyndns.org/rock-linux/regtest/
22:04 < rxr> alexander: how do you mean this?
22:04 < rxr> latest logs:
22:04 < rxr> http://schillernet.dyndns.org/rock-linux/logs/
22:04 < rxr> latest flists:
22:04 < rxr> http://schillernet.dyndns.org/rock-linux/flists/
22:04 < rxr> latest ppc .gem files:
22:05 < rxr> http://schillernet.dyndns.org/rock-linux/ppc/pkgs/
22:05 < alexander> nice
22:05 < rxr> latest x86 .gem files:
22:05 < rxr> http://schillernet.dyndns.org/rock-linux/x86/pkgs/
22:05 < rxr> latest SPARC:
22:05 < rxr> http://schillernet.dyndns.org/rock-linux/sparc/pkgs/
22:05 < kasc> moin
22:05 < rxr> hi kasc
22:05 < alexander> Oki, so the status on ppc alpha mips is looking good right now?
22:06 < rxr> I do not know about mips
22:06 < rxr> alpha does not loog that good (esden?)
22:06 < kasc> rxr: any idea why the asm doesnt know what 'MOV' is supposed to mean?
22:06 < alexander> rxr, oki
22:07 < rxr> PPC and x86 are quite optimal - sparc only misses boot code (and soe cross-compiler / kernel adaptions)
22:07 < alexander> Sounds nice
22:07 < rxr> kasc: no - I'll plan to take a look - but 98% of the packages compile - so it might be just a typo somewhere in that package (or in combination of an header it includes)
22:08 < rxr> I heared that MIPS should be quite ok - but I do not know for sure ...
22:08 < rxr> ALPHA produces many errors in the regression tester ...
22:08 < kasc> is seems to be in every packages in my repos that use asm optimizations
22:08 < rxr> sad that AMD is not willing to sponsor hardware - we could have running x86_64 within days ...
22:09 < rxr> evas, ogg-vorbis, imlib2, openssl also use handwritten assembler ...
22:10 < alexander> rxr, i will try to call amd tomorrow and get them to sponsor. We should check every country :)
22:11 < alexander> just becase they say no in one country doesnt meen they do that in every :)
22:11 < alexander> worth a phonecall at least
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22:16 < andi5> hi. i have two pretty short questions regarding my first patch :) 1. should the copyleft be kept out or included (i did include it), 2. does anybody want to see it before i send it to the ml?
22:31 < andi5> i have sent it and will see...
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22:50 < rxr> re
22:50 < Robin_Root> bye
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22:51 < rxr> alexander: I tried at CeBiit last year (before they really announced it) from there I got to the european hq in england or so ...
22:52 < rxr> Mike1: *lol* cool scripts
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23:02 < alexander> rxr, well, i will give it a try
23:02 < alexander> time to go to sleep. cya
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23:35 < Mike1> rxr: sure, specially made for Terry...
23:36 < rxr> I updated:
23:36 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux.org/projects/rock20/
23:36 < rxr> any suggestions ?
23:38 < tfing> updatesa and fixes <-
23:38 < tfing> extra a (twice)
23:42 < rxr> wow "11.57 GB" gsmp.tfh-berlin.de today ...
23:43 < rxr> tfing: ok - the updatesa thing is fixed
23:44 < tfing> why offer the download for old crappy versions on the main page ?
23:45 < tfing> it just wastes some screen space i think
23:48 < rxr> tfing: I already plan a reconstruction into sub-pages and factoring of common info from the drock page ..
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23:48 < tfing> the page is quite long
23:53 < Mike1> ping esden
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