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00:12 < esden> netrunner: I know I know ;-)
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00:20 < cybermr> just installed rock linux, where are all these scripts that update rock and what not?
00:22 < Freak>  /scripts?
00:22 < Freak> or /Scripts?
00:22 < Freak> (just guessing ;)
00:23 < cybermr> doesnt exist
00:23 < Freak> mnkay :)
00:24 < cybermr> ya
00:24 < cybermr> I installed the latest iso beta
00:24 < cybermr> also, it didnt default to have the dhcp on my nic on start up
00:25 < cybermr> was a pain to figure out how to load it up, cause I was used to using dhcpcd
00:26 < cybermr> anyone have a clue why I lack a scripts dir?
00:30 < cybermr> I take it no one is alive in here
00:31 < cybermr> was I supposed to do anything after the stone install or something of the like?
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00:40 < cybermr> hi
00:41 < jsaw> hi all
00:42 < cybermr> anyone know where the scripts are stored in the latest beta of Rock Linux or how in the world they would not get installed(There is no /scripts dir in the root dir)?
00:43 < tfing> cybermr: check in /usr/src/
00:43 < tfing> and it's the rock-src package or something like that
00:43 < cybermr> thank you
00:45 < cybermr> do I have to compile something to get them to work?
00:46 < tfing> err, i suppose you already have bash :)
00:46 < cybermr> ya
00:46 < tfing> and that's the only requirement
00:47 < cybermr> just trying to figure out why I am getting errors in running them
00:50 < cybermr> I think something didnt install right
00:51 < cybermr> keep getting a cannot find parse-config error
00:52 < cybermr> I am getting pretty close to knowing why I know no one who uses this distro
00:52 < tfing> run ./scripts/Config
00:53 < cybermr> doesnt exist
00:53 < cybermr> as I have said earlier
00:54 < cybermr> n/m
00:54 < cybermr> lol
00:54 < cybermr> just figured out what to do
00:54 < cybermr> had to cd .. one dir
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02:58 < localhost> hi
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03:32 < rolla2> re
03:33 < localhost> hola rolla2
03:33 < localhost> nice 2 see u again
03:33 < rolla2> ja
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04:18 < mnemoc> Mike?
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07:16 < blindcoder> moin
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08:41 < n00kie> Moin
08:55 < blindcoder> moin n00kie
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09:00 < Auzain> moin
09:02 < Auzain> rxr: here?
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09:43 < cchamilt> hello all
09:51 < SMP> hi Chris
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10:25 < Auzain> rehello
10:29 < rxr> re
10:34 < Auzain> rxr: a little problem with drock: find is not at the right place
10:34 < Auzain> it's in /bin, must be in /usr/bin
10:34 < cchamilt> Has anyone been having weird problems with 2.0 bootdisks?
10:35 < cchamilt> using beta5 have tons of invalid-files
10:35 < rxr> cchamilt: what has invalid files - the bootdisk aor your target?
10:36 < cchamilt> also seems to require dietlibc on the host system - ie linuxrc.c needs built with /usr/dietlibc found on host!
10:36 < rxr> Auzain: I check where find shouold be later - feel free to remeber me
10:36 < rxr> cchamilt: the dietlibc thing is a bug
10:36 < cchamilt> generic bootdisk
10:36 < rxr> clifford said it is fixed - but it is not - it is on the TODO ...
10:36 < rxr> cchamilt: which files are claimed to be invalid ?
10:37 < cchamilt> no prob about dietlibc
10:37 < cchamilt> tons of them
10:37 < Auzain> rxr: it's just because updatedb doesn't work correctly when install drock
10:37 < rxr> cchamilt: please send the output in a mail to me - I need to get off to work ...
10:37 < cchamilt> I am using a bootdisk I made, but from what I can tell there is no core diff between it and bootdisk
10:37 < cchamilt> OK
10:37 < rxr> Auzain: ah - there is a patch on the list - I review it tonight ...
10:37 < cchamilt> It has evms on it though...
10:38 < Auzain> rxr: you never sleep? ;-)
10:38 < cchamilt> A bitch learning pkg-linux-src/header hooks
10:38 < rxr> hm - why ?
10:38 < cchamilt> rxr: I will send some over, it is huge
10:39 < cchamilt> rxr: Cause I am a slow learner :)
10:39 < rxr> ok - me off to work - nice to meet you here ;-)!
10:39 < cchamilt> bye
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10:51 < blindcoder> sleep would be a fine thing now...
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12:03 < esden> good morning everyone
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12:07 < jsaw_at_work> hi all
12:29 < blindcoder> esden: moin
12:38 < esden> hi blindcoder 
12:39 < esden> hi jsaw_at_work 
12:40 < blindcoder> bah
12:40 < blindcoder> yesterday was fscking boring, and today isn't much better
12:44 < jsaw_at_work> hi esden
12:58 < netrunner> hi *
13:04 < daja77> moin
13:19 < tfing> moin'
13:20 < tfing> blindcoder: [D] 997768055 winex3_3.1-1.i386.tgz file:///root/ <- did you really intend to put such an url ?
13:25 < blindcoder> tfing: yes
13:26 < blindcoder> tfing: simply because winex costs money, and we may not redisntribute it. So you have to download it yourself from their servers
13:26 < blindcoder> it's just an INSTALLER, so you can later easily remove it with mine -r winex_installer
13:26 < tfing> ok, but you have to launch your browser to download it
13:26 < blindcoder> tfing: you would have to do so anyway
13:27 < tfing> ok
13:27 < tfing> i know that their license is quite restricted concerning packages
13:27 < blindcoder> yes. I just created that 'package' for my own convenience and thought maybe someone else might need it :)
13:28 < blindcoder> rene just has to be careful to not sync it to our mirror servers :)
13:28 < blindcoder> (tha binary from ransngaming.com)
13:28 < tfing> :)
13:28 < blindcoder> transgaming.com
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13:31 < KixXaSs> hi @ all
13:32 < KixXaSs> i got a question : where can i select which packages i want to install ? after trying to install the iso or at build time ?
13:35 < blindcoder> both buidl and install time
13:35 < KixXaSs> mh
13:35 < KixXaSs> using the Config script ?
13:35 < blindcoder> build thime with the ./scripts/Config and install time via stone
13:36 < KixXaSs> <-- trying rock for the first time ;)
13:36 < KixXaSs> i guess i'll download the premade isos for now
13:36 < blindcoder> <-- trying to help :)
13:36 < KixXaSs> oO
13:37 < KixXaSs> there are 3 cds, do i need all of them ?
13:37 < blindcoder> yeah, that would be advisable. Building rock on a non-rock system has proven to be.... difficult
13:37 < KixXaSs> or just the first one ?
13:37 < blindcoder> mom, I'll look
13:37 < KixXaSs> drock-2.0.0 - beta4 + fixes
13:37 < KixXaSs> x86
13:38 < blindcoder> yes, you do
13:38 < KixXaSs> all =
13:38 < KixXaSs> all ?
13:38 < KixXaSs> k
13:38 < KixXaSs> hope it's worth the download oO
13:39 < blindcoder> there's currently no intelligent system to distribute the packages on the discs, so they are more or less random
13:39 < blindcoder> (alphabetically, at best)
13:39 < KixXaSs> hehe ;D
13:39 < blindcoder> sure it is :D
13:39 < KixXaSs> i just want an up to date distro with x11 and gnmoe
13:39 < KixXaSs> gnome
13:40 < blindcoder> hmm... honestly, I haven't tested gnome up til now, I'm a happy user of icewm :)
13:40 < KixXaSs> ;)
13:40 < KixXaSs> i'm using XFCE4 now
13:49 < daja77> I am not sur if gnome is up-to-date already, Mike1?
13:49 < daja77> sure even
13:57 < jsaw_at_work> gnome and gnome2 work well, however, gnome2 is not really complete...
13:57 < jsaw_at_work> hi daja77 btw
14:07 < daja77> hi jsaw_at_work
14:08 < daja77> why the long nick, you are always at work afaik *ggg*
14:08 < jsaw_at_work> my boss is running around, so I may respond slowly...
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14:10 < daja77> jsaw_aw: okis :)
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14:22 < daja77> hey Freak still here *gg*
14:22 < Freak> mhm
14:22 < daja77> now using rock?
14:24 < Freak> nah
14:24 < Freak> i was SO close
14:24 < Freak> to installing it
14:24 < Freak> but just found out mac on linux doesnt support linux on linux anymore.. :|
14:24 < daja77> ???????
14:25 < Freak> i would have installed rock into a file
14:25 < daja77> rocklinux on mac works fine according to rene
14:25 < daja77> wtf
14:25 < Freak> not rocklinux on maconlinux on linux on ppc.
14:25 < Freak> maconlinux ~ vmware.
14:25 < Freak> not = but ~
14:25 < daja77> on ... on ...on ... on sounds ill to me
14:26 < Freak> just follow the path of truth.
14:26 < Freak> to gain the answer
14:26 < daja77> nah this would lead me to debian, no thx
14:26 < Freak> haha *g
14:28 < Freak> no look: i have my powerbook here running debian. there is a program called mac on linux, it lets you run macos on linux. once it was possible to run linux with mac on linux so you had a linux system in your linux system. understand?
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14:28 < Freak> i was about to do that. but it doesnt work anymore.
14:28 < Freak> like running linux on vmware on linux.
14:28 < Freak> thats just a logical operator :)
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14:29 < Freak> (the 'on')
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14:29 < daja77> Freak: replace the debian with rock it is better on mac anyway
14:29 < daja77> and has newer software *gg*
14:29 < Freak> how would that be better
14:30 < Freak> actually i have sid and thats new-enough to me
14:30 < daja77> sure, ask rxr about that, every mac user was excited about rxr's new mac isos
14:30 < Freak> well anyway
14:30 < Freak> I'll be at the debian, not the rock booth on linuxtag. get it? :)
14:31 * daja77 notes that anyway is his favourite english word
14:31 < Freak> why is everybody trying to flame me?
14:31 < Freak> i dont give shush on what you run!
14:31 < daja77> cos it is fun
14:31 < Freak> ack ;)
14:31 < Freak> either they tell me linux is shit
14:31 < Freak> if they like linux they dont like me running debian
14:31 < daja77> haha so you are the only non flaming debian user *wonders*
14:31 < Freak> if they like debian they dont like me running wmaker
14:32 < Freak> or using gtk/qt-apps
14:32 < Freak> I'm beyond that. right. :)
14:32 < daja77> great
14:32 < Freak> i like debian. but as long as you dont run suse or redhat or.. idunno.. its fine.
14:33 < daja77> well most of the time debianists tried to flame me, so I try sometimes ...
14:33 < daja77> so you'll be at the debian booth?
14:33 < Freak> no success here :)
14:33 < Freak> yea showing the powerbook
14:34 < daja77> we should meet there, or at our booth :)
14:34 < Freak> and I thought i could show it running rock and *bsd in mol-windows but that wont work :(
14:34 < Freak> for sure I'll come over to you guys again
14:34 < daja77> cool
14:34 < Freak> I'm looking forward to seeing rxr again
14:35 < Freak> we had a nice chat last year
14:35 < daja77> maybe he can help you install rock on that laptop ...
14:35 < Freak> i might reformat this thing and leave some space to try rock, yup.
14:36 * daja77 looking forward bein on linuxtag
14:36 < Freak> oh definitely
14:36 < Freak> its the only thing im waiting for atm
14:36 < daja77> atm?
14:36 < Freak> at the moment
14:36 < daja77> ic
14:36 < Freak> ok
14:37 < Freak> (olles kloa)
14:37 * daja77 should do some more work on realtime rocklinux now ...
14:38 < Freak> dang why is it so stormy today (sitting on the balcony)
14:39 < daja77> ein frischer wind weht durch deutschland, hahaha
14:39 < Freak> hehe+
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14:41 < daja77> O_o Lorini is back
14:41 < daja77> hi Lorini
14:41 < Lorini> hi daja
14:41 < Freak> hui
14:41 < Lorini> hi freaky :)
14:41 < Freak> loriniy *g
14:41 < Lorini> ;)
14:42 < daja77> hehehe, what a question: Determine whether you are a Server, Slave or Client.
14:42 < Freak> that lacks master.
14:43 < daja77> yeah best option seems to be client (the client is king, or so)
14:43 < Freak> lol
14:44 < Freak> is it gonna start raining?
14:44 < Freak> should I get back inside?
14:44 < daja77> not here :P
14:45 * daja77 sings: the sun always shines on tv ...
14:46 < daja77> Lorini: how are u?
14:47 < Lorini> absolutely great :)
14:47 < Lorini> if you wanna know more: http://lorini.sourcebase.org
14:47 < Lorini> *g*
14:47 < Lorini> (everybody needs advertisment..)
14:48 < daja77> bah ti says willkommen fremder :(
14:48 < daja77> it even
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14:49 < Lorini> hm. should it be "willkommen freund"?
14:49 < daja77> dunno, maybe just willkommen bei lorini or so
14:50 < Freak> nah
14:50 < Lorini> hm. im gonna think about it.. have to be creative one more time *sigh* :)
14:50 < Freak> willkommen fremder is ok
14:50 < Freak> you could say "melon".
14:51 < Freak> Lorini: you wanted to get some rest :) byebye
14:51 < daja77> .oO stories of hamster + lorini ...
14:51 < Lorini> ah, yes :))
14:51 < Freak> (that sounds like "disappear!")
14:51 < Lorini> lol dont you say anything against my little darling!
14:52 < daja77> me? never ...
14:52 < Lorini> i should mention that its not finished yet.. but maybe you already recognized it *g*
14:53 < daja77> hehe, sorry don't have the time to read all now
14:54 < Lorini> and now, as freak said, im gonna go to bed :)
14:54 < Lorini> (have been marked away 10 minutes ago..)
14:54 < Lorini> byebye
14:54 < daja77> huh?
14:54 < daja77> sleep well
14:55 < Freak> .)
14:55 < Freak> gnite.
14:55 < rolla> re
14:55 < Freak> rero
14:56 < daja77> hi rolla, your build finished?
14:57 < rolla> nope
14:57 < rolla> gcc3 and P4 don't work togather
14:57 < daja77> -v pls
14:57 < Freak> brb.
14:59 < rolla> apollo:/build/rock-trunk# gcc -v
14:59 < rolla> Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.2/specs
14:59 < rolla> Configured with: ../configure --prefix=/usr --bindir=/usr/bin --sbindir=/usr/sbin --libdir=/usr/lib --datadir=/usr/share --infodir=/usr/info --mandir=/usr/man --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var --disable-debug --with-mysql-lib=/opt/mysql/lib/mysql --with-mysql-include=/opt/mysql/include/mysql --with-libpam --with-pam --enable-libpam --enable-pam --build=i386-pc-linux-gnu --host=i386-pc-linux-gnu --disable-multilib --enable-_
14:59 < rolla> Thread model: posix
14:59 < rolla> gcc version 3.2.2
14:59 < daja77> so what?
15:00 < rolla> ?
15:00 < jsaw_aw> remember the P4 over-optimization problem with (IIRC) SSE?
15:00 < daja77> :P I wanted you to tell me about the proble not -v output *argh*
15:00 < rolla> that gcc won't build perl screen
15:00 < rolla>  -v pls
15:01 < rolla> means to me you want to see the -v output of gcc
15:01 * rolla thinks daja77 needs to be more clear in the future
15:01 < daja77> no it means that I want to have verbos info about your problem and it means that I am a lazy writer
15:01 < daja77> verbose even
15:02 < rolla> well when I complain about gcc. -v mean what version :P
15:02 < rolla> configure: error: Can't run the compiler - internal error. Sorry.
15:02 < rolla> that is what I get when trying to build screen
15:03 < daja77> gcc segfault?
15:04 < rolla> not sure that is all the info make gives me
15:05 < daja77> what says tail $build_id/root/var/adn/logs/5-screen.err?
15:06 < rolla> daja77: this is not even in the rock build
15:06 < rolla> the is just trying to compile it so I can run my build in screen
15:07 < rolla> also trying to compile perl dies in very strange places
15:07 < daja77> ic the last few lines on your screen?
15:09 < Freak> what, technically, is a tun device?
15:10 < daja77> no idea ...
15:11 < Freak> its some kind of network device
15:11 < Freak> /networking?
15:13 < daja77> tunneling?
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15:13 < Freak> what does that
15:13 < Freak> why does it exist
15:14 < Freak> what makes it different from eth
15:14 < daja77> it is a tunnel, I guess
15:15 < Freak> btw i can put my right foot behind my head.
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15:15 < Freak> daja77: ah that says it all. no.#
15:15 < Freak> need more input. dont understand yet :)
15:15 < daja77> google is your best friend ...
15:15 < Freak> no it isnt
15:16 < Freak> see for yourself what it answers when you ask what is a tun device
15:16 < daja77> no time for it sorry
15:16 < Freak> :) ok sorry for wasting your precious lifetime ::)
15:16 < daja77> Freak: ask google for tunneling
15:16 < Freak> mutant smiley, everybody hide!
15:17 * daja77 hides
15:19 < Freak> i think its gone now..
15:19 < Freak> it is safe to come out again.
15:20 < jsaw_aw> TUN/TAP provides packet reception and transmission for user space programs.
15:20 < jsaw_aw>   It can be seen as a simple Point-to-Point or Ethernet device, which,
15:20 < jsaw_aw>   instead of receiving packets from physical media, receives them from
15:20 < jsaw_aw>   user space program and instead of sending packets via physical media
15:20 < jsaw_aw>   writes them to the user space program.
15:21 < jsaw_aw> linux/Documentation/networking/tuntap.txt
15:21 < jsaw_aw> looking for that?
15:23 < Freak> yup just found :)
15:23 < Freak> i dont understand it yet tho.
15:23 < Freak> i lack knowledge there.
15:25 < Mike1> moin all
15:37 < SMP> hi Mike
15:40 < Mike1> hi SMP, how are things?
15:44 < rolla> hey Mike1
15:44 < Mike1> hi rolla
15:44 * SMP is f*cking packages/base/man ...
15:45 < Mike1> :)
15:45 < Mike1> SMP: enjoying?
15:45 < SMP> it's almost as rotten as sharutils
15:46 * Mike1 has plenty of work to do for gnome, its quit a mess...
15:46 < Mike1> s/quit/quite
15:47 < rolla> Mike1: gcc 3.2 and P4 is a mess
15:47 < Mike1> rolla what about gcc 3.3 ?
15:47 < rolla> it is shit
15:48 < Mike1> so what do you have in mind?
15:50 < rolla> shoot all of the gcc 3.2 devlopers till they get the idea that maybe they should test their work first ;)
15:52 < Mike1> rolla nice idea
15:52 < Mike1> :P
15:52 < daja77> Mike1: ack gnome is a mess now
15:53 < Mike1> daja77: i have not submit the updates yet, i am trying to fix the damn thing as well
15:53 < daja77> Mike1: thank you very much, have no time for this :(
15:53 * daja77 has to build a ypbind package :(
15:54 < Mike1> daja77: btw are you gnome maintainer?
15:54 < daja77> no
15:55 < Mike1> oh, i thought you were the new one..
15:55 < daja77> I could resist until now ;-)
15:56 < Mike1> don't understand ur comment
15:57 < daja77> hehe
15:57 * Mike1 still half asleep
15:57 < daja77> well I have enough to do with realtime rock stuff
15:58 < Mike1> ah ok
15:58 < Mike1> i had the impression you wanted it.. :)
15:58 < daja77> damn who the f* is the ypbind maintainer *grml*
15:58 < Mike1> search for the [M] flag
15:58 < daja77> Mike1: to be honest, kde is ahead of gnome at the moment
15:58 < daja77> no package in rock
15:59 < Mike1> daja77: simple, gnome is not been properly maintained
15:59 < Mike1> daja77: but it can be changed
16:00 < Mike1> daja77: btw if ybind is not included maybe you can add it to ur repos
16:00 < daja77> Mike1: you mean i should replace de Icaza?
16:01 < daja77> Mike1: I am currently preparing a package for it, just looking for something to put into [A] Tag
16:02 < Mike1> daja77: nah i ment it as in rock..
16:03 < daja77> but the release crap, so I don't see how we could improve it
16:03 < daja77> they even
16:03 < Mike1> we will see what happens :)
16:03 < daja77> okis
16:03 < Mike1> daja77: /me is a gnome guy..
16:04 < Mike1> you can't turn me to kde sorry :)
16:04 < daja77> I don't wanna turn you into whatever, just saying what I think
16:04 < Mike1> daja77: ich weiss :)
16:04 < Mike1> daja77: btw nice pic on the gallery :)
16:05 < daja77> haha
16:05 < daja77> dman old picture
16:05 < daja77> damn even
16:05 < daja77> damn!
16:06 < Mike1> Lorini.
16:06 < daja77> she is sleeping ...
16:06 < Mike1> 0_o cchamilt here
16:06 < Mike1> ping cchamilt
16:07 < daja77> who is cchamilt
16:07 < Mike1> daja77: my boss and a good friend
16:07 < daja77> ic
16:07 < Mike1> daja77: also a ROCK developer :)
16:08 < daja77> o_O never heard of him, or just don't know it
16:08 < Mike1> daja77: Chris Hamilton, quite a legendary dev
16:08 < Mike1> :)
16:09 < daja77> d'oh, yes wtf I didn't got this out of the nick
16:09 < daja77> get even
16:09 < daja77> damn typos
16:09 < Mike1> daja77: dunno :)
16:09 < daja77> :P
16:10 < daja77> I guess it was too easy for me ...
16:10 < daja77> may I leave out [A] tag?
16:11 < daja77> I only know it is a sven
16:11 < Mike1> so put sven
16:11 < daja77> sven unknown yeah
16:11 * Mike1 re-installing laptop, damn beta5 isos
16:12 < Mike1> rxr: alive?
16:12 * daja77 building beta6 isos
16:13 < rolla> same here
16:13 < rolla> daja77: I am on my boot build now
16:13 < daja77> :)
16:13 < daja77> boot already finished, waiting for kde ...
16:14 < rolla> daja77: you do boot first?
16:14 < Mike1> there is no difference between building boot or system first
16:14 < Mike1> you can build then even at the same time
16:15 < daja77> rolla: yes cos I hate it to throw away a complete build cos the according boot doesn't build
16:16 < rolla> nod
16:17 < daja77> which happened to my last beta5 build btw ...
16:18 < rolla> daja77: yeah
16:18 < rolla> same here
16:20 < daja77> rolla: gimme five :)
16:21 * Mike1 gives five ... kicks to daja77 :)
16:21 < daja77> haha
16:21 < daja77> lame Mikey trying to kick me
16:22 < Mike1> :)
16:22 < Mike1> ping mnemoc
16:23 < rolla> daja77: if this boot builds right I should have a working iso to play with over the weekend
16:24 * rolla is getting humor from the ML
16:25 < daja77> humor from the ML?
16:25 < Mike1> Mailing list..
16:25 < Mike1> ?
16:26 < daja77> yeah Mailinglist but what humor?
16:26 < rolla> the ripclaw <-> rene thing
16:26 < daja77> hehe
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16:47 < jsaw_aw> cu 2night
16:48 < daja77> cu jsaw_aw
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16:57 < daja77> *argl* didn't we have that undefined reference to errno bug already
17:01 < daja77> but it builds on redhat d'oh
17:04 < daja77> I should send the patch anyway, cos this seems to be rock and no ypbind issue
17:12 < n00kie> rxr: Ping :)
17:16 < daja77> .oO private mail on the list
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18:06 < rolla> yawn
18:07 < daja77> haha /me bored too
18:07 < Mike1> ya lazy ass, code!
18:07 < rolla> ha ha
18:07 < Mike1> rock has many things to be fixed to become stable
18:07 < daja77> I do :P
18:07 * rolla is not a coder
18:07 < rolla> Mike1: dumb iproute2 dietlibc build
18:07 < Mike1> rolla still you can run builds and reports problems
18:07 < daja77> rolla is the guy who comes and says what sucks ...
18:08 < rolla> Mike1: build is running
18:08 < Mike1> rolla good start 5 more builds
18:08 < rolla> daja77: no I am the guy that trys to install the crap you write
18:08 < Mike1> you got a p4 god damn it
18:08 < Mike1> rolla also we need to cluster those alphas of yours
18:08 < Mike1> :)
18:08 < rolla> Mike1: I don't want to slow down my build
18:09 < daja77> rolla: yeah and complain afterwards, this is ok for me ...
18:09 < Mike1> daja77: where is ypbind standing?
18:09 < Mike1> *gg* i like bugging :)
18:09 < daja77> Mike1: get the patch from the list :P
18:10 < Mike1> daja77: what about rtai?
18:11 * Mike1 working a lot today
18:12 < daja77> I am trying to svn up, merge my stuff in and start a new build
18:12 < Mike1> one!
18:12 < daja77> goin to party afterwards, *yeah*
18:12 < Mike1> daja77: we need you to run more than one build :)
18:12 < daja77> yes one rtai build should be enough
18:12 < Mike1> party is for lazy people, not aliens :)
18:12 * Mike1 teasing daja77
18:12 < daja77> you know that I am lazy :)
18:13 < Mike1> daja77: we need to patch you, that lazyness is not good
18:14 < daja77> hey I made more progress this week than ever before, I have an installed box with realtime rock now
18:26 < daja77> btw running 5 builds on one box doesn't help a bit
18:31 * daja77 pissed
18:32 < daja77> rxr: do you mind having your apache listen to port 81 again, this would help me a lot
18:32 * daja77 off now
18:32 < daja77> cu tomorrow perhaps
18:33 < daja77> go on with new rtrock on monday :-(
19:02 < rolla> hmmm
19:02 < rolla> daja77: my boot build die3d
19:03 < rolla> oops wrong window
19:03 < rolla> that was my beta5 build that died
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19:19 < link_> hi all
19:19 < rolla> re
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21:08 < rolla> daja77: ?
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21:57 * daja77 in da house!
21:58 < blindcoder> *sigh*
21:58 < blindcoder> hi daja77
21:59 < daja77> blindcoder: why you sigh, when I come?
21:59 < blindcoder> it's not because of that
22:00 < daja77> :)
22:00 < Mike1> blindy !
22:00 < Mike1> daja77-in-da-house :)
22:00 < blindcoder> hi Mike1
22:00 < daja77> yeah learned that from #mdlug :))
22:01 < blindcoder> sounds like a rapper who doesn't know that XXXL is about 3 numbers too large for him
22:01 < blindcoder> yeah! I'm in da house, man! I'm so cool I piss ice cubes, man!
22:02 * daja77 pissing ice cubes with blindcoder 
22:02 < daja77> blindcoder: you come to Linuxtag?
22:02 < blindcoder> no
22:02 < daja77> damn, you get money from me ...
22:02 < blindcoder> don't have time for it
22:02 < blindcoder> don't want to go there, too.
22:03 < blindcoder> I'd just have to interact with real people there
22:03 < blindcoder> a skill, that I currently lack at 100%
22:03 < daja77> what's wrong with you
22:04 < blindcoder> ah, I just found out yesterday taht I should be a bit more careful about whom I consider a 'friend'
22:05 < daja77> ah fsck, I had that 1 year ago
22:06 < rolla> that sucks blindy
22:06 < blindcoder> I'll just reconsider my definition of 'friend' and then gives out this title some day again. Until then, I'll just vote to neither trust someone nor let them near my heart
22:06 < blindcoder> that way, I won't be hurt
22:06 < rolla> ah a woman?
22:06 < blindcoder> and _no_, I don't mean a woman
22:07 < daja77> ahem I hope you don't talk of someone we know ...
22:07 < Mike1> a man?
22:07 < blindcoder> yes, a man. A mna I thought would be beyond childsh behaviour
22:07 < blindcoder> But apparently... I was wrong
22:07 < rolla> blindy some people are just that way
22:08 < rolla> hell I work with "adults" that are that way
22:08 < rolla> one would think people in their 40' and 30's would be more mature
22:09 < daja77> haha
22:11 < daja77> some people matured bein 20 and some do never
22:13 < rolla> yes
22:13 < rolla> so people are mature at 17
22:14 < daja77> ack
22:14 < blindcoder> can be
22:15 < blindcoder> doesn't ecessarily have to be that way
22:15 < blindcoder> other's have had no time being a child
22:15 < rolla> very true
22:15 < blindcoder> and were forced to mature very early
22:15 < rolla> ja
22:17 < daja77> I consider a friend as someone who is still a friend when you are down
22:18 < daja77> all others are just people who know me
22:18 < blindcoder> the only person who truly knew me left me years ago
22:20 * daja77 gives a beer to blindcoder 
22:20 < blindcoder> no, had enough Sake already today. But I'll keep it in a cool place for later use :D
22:20 < daja77> 88:)
22:21 < daja77> :)
22:21 < daja77> hey man where does the 88 came from *scratchhead*
22:23 < rolla> who knows
22:24 < blindcoder> maybe some damaged wires and a NEXT effect
22:25 < daja77> hmm interesting thought
22:26 < daja77> muhahahaha redhat and gentoo users telling all their problems in #svn
22:26 * daja77 happy that he never tried rh0
22:26 < daja77> 9
22:26 < rolla> yeah 9 seems bad
22:26 < blindcoder> daja77: ALL their problems? this can take some time...
22:26 < daja77> all their problems related to svn
22:27 * daja77 relaxed with his rock where apache2 and svn is preinstalled :)
22:27 < blindcoder> why? do they all want to checkout ROCK? :D
22:27 < daja77> hehe nope they use it for their work, just like me
22:28 < daja77> *rofl*
22:28 < daja77> < sharrison> reads faq; but I *am* using a redhat9 kernel since I'm using redhat9, right?
22:29 < rolla> ha ha ha
22:29 < daja77> :)
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22:30 * daja77 hopes the lusers never start to like rock
22:30 < Mike1> LOL
22:30 < blindcoder> daja77: and I'm afraid that we will get some of those
22:31 * daja77 too
22:31 < blindcoder> well, in a way that person is right.
22:31 < Mike1> well blindcoder you like been in the hell desk right?
22:31 < daja77> *ggg*
22:31 < blindcoder> s/he assumes s/he is using a rh9 kernel, so s/he never tried to compile one him/herself
22:32 < blindcoder> which makse the statement correct by proof of itself.
22:32 < blindcoder> dammit, I've really been too long at the hell desk today (10 hours straight)
22:32 < lypanov> hiya all
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22:32 < daja77> I never said he made a wrong stupid, it just a real stupid question
22:32 < lypanov> i'm a current gentoo user sick of the busyness of the forums and inability for new packages to get in
22:32 < daja77> s/stupid/statement
22:33 < lypanov> was wondering, what are the 3 things that make you love rock?
22:33 < daja77> rxr, Mike1 and rolla *ggg*
22:33 < blindcoder> blindcoder# uptime
22:33 < blindcoder> 22:33:43 up, 19:00, 1 user, load average: 12.19, 10.01, 8.59
22:33 < Mike1> hahahaha!
22:34 < blindcoder> I need to reboot/sleep >_<
22:34 < daja77> blindcoder: gn8
22:34 < Mike1> blindcoder: stop complaining keep building
22:34 < daja77> Mike1: let him go
22:34 < daja77> he needs a rest
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22:34 < blindcoder> lypanov: 1) easy way to contribute 2) usually friendly atmosphere 3) you really learn a _lot_ using it to its full extent
22:35 < daja77> too late
22:35 < blindcoder> a$$hole
22:35 < Mike1> daja77: no, i'll never let go Ben, I'll never let go :PP
22:35 < daja77> blindcoder: ack, one luser we don't want anyway
22:35 < blindcoder> miisorry, dear, but I have to leave you for today...
22:36 < daja77> cu
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22:36 < blindcoder> bye all! *waves*
22:36 < lypanov> ciao blindcoder
22:36 < lypanov> and thx :)
22:36 < lypanov> thx Mike1
22:36 < daja77> *lol*
22:36 < lypanov> i'm too impatient :)
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22:36 < Mike1> lypanov: no problem
22:36 < daja77> yes...yes you are
22:36 < Mike1> lypanov: we are oftenly busy people so you need a bit of patience
22:37 < lypanov> Mike1: i guessed - me too ;-)
22:37 < Mike1> lypanov: our developers community is not as big gentoo's so we are oftnely busy with several tasks
22:38 < rolla> plmwebdev% uptime
22:38 < rolla>   3:38pm  up 215 day(s), 22:47,  11 users,  load average: 0.02, 0.01, 0.02
22:38 < lypanov> Mike1: i'm kde devel so its much the same as kde cvs gnome ;-)
22:38 < Mike1> should i show my uptime :)
22:39 < rolla> go for it Mike1
22:39 < Mike1> rolla 245 days second round..
22:39 < Mike1> :)
22:39 < rolla> :P
22:39 < Mike1> rolla rock 1.5.17
22:39 < rolla> :)
22:40 < Mike1> lypanov: our current stable maintainer is quite into kde too
22:40 < lypanov> yay :)
22:40 < daja77> but Mike1 is not *gg*
22:40 < lypanov> the dark side or you use something sane? ;-)
22:40 < lypanov> (fluxbox for example *rocks*)
22:41 < Mike1> daja77: options for several likes are what make free software so cool
22:41 < Mike1> lypanov: i'm in the darkside :)
22:41 < daja77> lypanov: which part of kde you develop
22:41 < lypanov> daja77: atm "bookmarks" generically
22:42 < daja77> Mike1: full ack that's what's makes it superiour to closed source
22:42 < lypanov> (the editor, bookmarklets, bookmarks menu / toolbar, etc)
22:42 < daja77> bookmark editor for konqueror?
22:43 < lypanov> yup
22:43 < lypanov> "kbookmarkeditor"
22:44 < daja77> == 21:56:16 =[5]=> Building rene/koffice [1.2.90 2.0.0-beta6].
22:44 < daja77> btw :)
22:44 < Mike1> bbl
22:44 < lypanov> yay :)
22:44 < lypanov> ciao Mike1
22:44 < lypanov> thx again :)
22:45 * daja77 now using kde but using gnome-terminal cos kterm sucks
22:45 < lypanov> whats up with it?
22:45 < lypanov> i love konsole :)
22:45 < lypanov> gnome-terminal in gnome 2 is pretty cool though
22:46 < lypanov> havoc did a *really* good job on it
22:46 < daja77> a had problems with transperancy with konsole
22:46 < daja77> I had, d'oh
22:47 < lypanov> hehe. transparency sucks :)
22:48 < lypanov> use my setting - black on light colour
22:48 < lypanov> its the only real way to use konsole :)
22:48 < lypanov> it gives a "random" colour for each terminal
22:48 < daja77> it works with gnome-terminal though :)
22:49 < daja77> using one for chat right now, irssi on transparency rocks
22:50 < daja77> if you don't count that everything in my build rocks, see subject ;-)
22:50 < lypanov> irssi rocks :)
22:51 * lypanov uses vim and mutt and irssi :)
22:51 < daja77> why you need kde then?
22:52 < daja77> ksirc sucks a lot btw
22:52 < lypanov> konqi rocks as does konsole
22:52 < lypanov> and kwin and juk are very nice
22:52 < daja77> juk?
22:52 < lypanov> fluxbox > kwin
22:52 < lypanov> a jukebox
22:52 < lypanov> konqi > moz
22:52 < lypanov> konsole + transparncy == gnome-terminal
22:52 < Mike1> lypanov: do you have any experience with konqueror-embedded?
22:53 < lypanov> Mike1: nope alas not :)
22:53 < daja77> ah damn kdemultimedia packages doesn't compile on rock :(
22:53 < Mike1> :(
22:53 < lypanov> Mike1: what do you need?
22:53 < lypanov> daja77: juk 1.0 was released seperate
22:53 < lypanov> umm.. you have cvs version packages?
22:53 < Mike1> i need it to run with kdelibs and qt _3_
22:53 < daja77> nope
22:54 < Mike1> lypanov: but the damn thing required 2.2 version of both packages and even with them it brakes
22:54 < daja77> huh, qt 2 and 3 are src compatible, should build flawlessly maybe a borken autoconf crap script
22:55 < lypanov> well i think kdenox uses a completely different version of kde/qt doesn't it?
22:55 < lypanov> qt3/e doesn't exist iirc
22:55 < daja77> not?
22:55 < Mike1> daja77: i am talking about konqueror embedded and its dependencies..
22:57 < daja77> Mike1: yeah would be a pity if it doesn't work, I "ported" a qt2 app to qt3 myself, you know
22:58 < Mike1> daja77: i don't have much time for porting
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22:59 < daja77> Mike1: that proting was done in no time, I just linked it against qt3, maybe it is just a misconfigured script what thinks using qt2 is a great idea
22:59 < lypanov> porting to qt3 is really easy
22:59 < daja77> ack
22:59 < Mike1> mm...
22:59 < lypanov> problem is that there is no version of embedded qt3 :(
22:59 < lypanov> anyways. i'll ask the devel :)
22:59 < Mike1> and what about kdelibs ...
22:59 < Mike1> ?
23:00 < lypanov> i think its just a branch of kdelibs isn't it? just a small part?
23:00 < lypanov> i really can't remember. i haven't tried it for over a year
23:00 < lypanov> but, its being actively developed
23:00 < lypanov> just saw a commit this second in fact :)
23:00 < Mike1> grr...
23:01 < daja77> lypanov: i found qt3 embedded rpms with google
23:01 < Mike1> rpms..
23:02 < daja77> well anyway it means that qt3.embedded exists
23:02 < Mike1> gut.
23:02 < lypanov> umm...
23:02 < daja77> Mike1: you could install it, rock ships with rpm ;-)
23:02 * lypanov is confused :)
23:02 < daja77> hehe
23:02 * Mike1 hating the fact that he will have to indeed get involved on kde..
23:03 < lypanov> hehe :)
23:03 < lypanov> how come btw?
23:03 < lypanov> just to get the pkging done?
23:03 < Mike1> daja77: rock.. rpm... do you have any clue of how long i have been a rock dev?
23:04 < daja77> lypanov: nope we use gem pa
23:04 < daja77> ckages
23:04 < daja77> with the mine package manager
23:04 < daja77> Mike1: ???
23:05 < Mike1> daja77: i am not using rpms :)
23:05 < Mike1> no way no how.
23:05 < Mike1> :)
23:06 < rolla> night all
23:07 < Mike1> nacht rolla
23:07 < daja77> n8 rolla
23:07 < daja77> Mike1: ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/source/qt-embedded-free-3.2.0b1.tar.bz2
23:07 < daja77> :)
23:07 < lypanov> Mike1: k. got it
23:07 < Mike1> lypanov: ?
23:08 < Mike1> daja77: thanks man!
23:08 < daja77> Mike1: you could make a rock package of it
23:08 < lypanov> Mike1: opie uses qt2 because they want to be bc with zaurus (if i understood right), therefore konq/e also just keeps to qt/2
23:08 < Mike1> daja77: it does exist
23:08 < daja77> :)
23:08 < Mike1> daja77: on the comercial target i develop for techworx
23:08 < Mike1> daja77: i will put it on my repos soon i guess
23:08 < daja77> that package you could release
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23:10 < daja77> brb
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23:38 < tcr> moin all
23:38 < daja77> hi txc
23:38 < daja77> tcr
23:39 < tcr> moin daja77
23:40 < esden> hi all
23:40 < daja77> tcr: your computer running now?
23:40 < daja77> hi esden
23:41 < tcr> daja77: Yup. Just returned from Berlin -- I actually wanted to visit an Internet Café, but hadn't time/desire/energy to do so.
23:41 < Ge0rG> daja77: you called for me yesterday? :)
23:42 < daja77> Ge0rG: yeah I wanted to know if you'll be at the meeting on tuesday?
23:42 < daja77> tcr: np
23:42 < Ge0rG> daja77: tuesday you say... hm... I'm pretty busy with exam preparations, but I'll see what I can do
23:42 < tcr> the trip was quite arduous, well, actually really arduous. But Berlin has envolved to a nice city
23:43 -!- rolla [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
23:43 < daja77> Ge0rG: I'll be in MD tuesay evening ;)
23:43 < tcr> Privatizing seems to have been a real hotshot
23:44 < Ge0rG> daja77: I thought so :)
23:44 < daja77> hehe
23:44 < Ge0rG> daja77: try to invite alita ;)
23:44 < daja77> tcr: ??
23:44 < daja77> me why you don't invite her
23:45 < Ge0rG> daja77: I thought you want to meet her? ;)
23:45 < tcr> daja77: almost every place four tourist has been privatized in the last years.
23:45 < esden> hmm ... have I missed Mike1? ... 
23:45 < Mike1> no esden
23:45 < Mike1> you have not
23:45 < daja77> I only know that missmarpl will come
23:45 < tcr> daja77: So those grounds are of private property
23:46 < esden> ahh very well ;-)
23:46 < Mike1> esden: God bless you
23:46 < Ge0rG> daja77: aah, ok
23:46 < daja77> tcr: speaking of potsdamer platz?
23:46 < esden> god bless you too mike 
23:46 < daja77> Ge0rG: btw I never said that I want to meet her ...
23:46 < daja77> can ask her anyway
23:46 < tcr> daja77: and as such the posessioners can decide who may be on their ground and who not
23:47 < Ge0rG> daja77: ah... I thought so because you told you didn't see her at the last linuxday
23:47 < tcr> daja77: Speaking more generally
23:48 < daja77> Ge0rG: I only said i can't remember having met her, maybe that changes oon
23:48 < daja77> soon
23:48 < Ge0rG> daja77: ok
23:49 < daja77> :)
23:49 < daja77> wtf http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/gs-20.06.03-000/
23:53 < daja77> design pc at the discounter yeah the world is waiting for this
23:54 < Ge0rG> now every wannabe-casemodder can have a "cool" computer
23:55 < daja77> but they all have the same cool pc, that lame asses
23:55 < Ge0rG> so what? ;)
23:56 < daja77> hehe ;)
23:56 < Ge0rG> plus is undermining the case modding sport... which is not really a problem for me
23:57 < daja77> for me neither, case modding is for people who are too stupid to do real things on their pc
23:57 < tcr> Exactly ;)
23:57 < daja77> I mean I can understand that they are all bored of windows
23:58 < tcr> Maybe we're lucky and that will make apple to dump the prices, however ;)
23:58 < daja77> to run rock on them, yeah!
23:59 < esden> my pc looks so ridiculously boring
23:59 < daja77> mine has a rh label on top ;)
23:59 < esden> and I am happy about that
23:59 < esden> daja77: rofl
23:59 < esden> daja77: you loser ;-)
23:59 < esden> sorry I had to say that
23:59 < daja77> and a penguin in front
23:59 * Ge0rG didn't buy a new pc for a long time now. I only got some "intelligent" devices ;)
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