--- Log opened Tue Jun 24 00:00:00 2003
--- Day changed Tue Jun 24 2003
00:00 < Mike1> as usual /me faster :)
00:00 < daja77> Mike1: not here
00:00 < Mike1> daja77: but hey, great minds think alike
00:00 < daja77> hehe
00:00 < n00kie> doing fsck
00:01 < n00kie> what fs do you prefer?
00:01 < daja77> n00kie: you pervert!
00:01 < Mike1> n00kie: xfs ..
00:01 < Mike1> n00kie: but ext3 and reiserfs work fine for me
00:01 < daja77> you should use the fsck matching your filesystem
00:02 < daja77> ext3 rules
00:02 < tsa> i'd prefer vxfs.. ;)
00:02 * n00kie uses ext3 too
00:02 < Mike1> tsa: hehe :)
00:02 < n00kie> but jfs seems to be nice
00:02 < Mike1> n00kie: xfs kicks ass
00:02 < Mike1> but vxfs is also nice
00:02 < daja77> Mike1: reiserfs kicks data *gg*
00:03 < Mike1> and i kick you
00:03 * Mike1 kicks daja77
00:03 * daja77 beats Mike1 with a club
00:03 < n00kie> daja77: Go in to the left part of room
00:03 < n00kie> Mike1: go in to the right part of room
00:04 < daja77> Mike1: yeah let's meet in the centre and beat up n00kie
00:04 * rolla pokes daja77 with a stick
00:04 < Mike1> omg a sick orgy
00:04 < daja77> ahem nice to meet you rolla ...
00:05 < rolla> :)
00:05 * Mike1 runs away from n00kie, daja77 and rolla
00:05 < n00kie> uah
00:05 < Mike1> :)
00:05 < n00kie> psyochopatics in here ;)
00:05 < daja77> nah just austrian kid eaters
00:06 < daja77> :)
00:06 < n00kie> daja77 means australian
00:06 < n00kie> :p
00:06 < daja77> austria is nearer
00:07 < daja77> + austrian speaking an unknown language to me *ggg*
00:07 < mnemoc> same distance from here
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00:08 < daja77> mnemoc: hehe ;)
00:08 < mnemoc> we don't need a daja-like, we have the 'chupacabras'
00:08 < Mike1> mnemoc: hahahaha!!!
00:08 < daja77> mnemoc: ??
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00:09 * Mike1 wonders if anyone here bsides mnemoc and him know what 'chupacabras' is...
00:09 < rolla> bras for monkeys?
00:09 < daja77> *roflÜ
00:09 < Mike1> lol
00:10 < mnemoc> http://www.crystalinks.com/chupacabras.html
00:11 < daja77> heh! I am no goat sucker
00:11 < Mike1> mnemoc: i can't belive you collect that stuff
00:11 < mnemoc> google does
00:11 < Mike1> daja77: what are you then? a n00kie sucker?
00:11 < Mike1> :PP
00:11 < mnemoc> :o
00:11 < Mike1> jk :)
00:12 * daja77 trying to escape this chan ...
00:12 * Mike1 hides just in case
00:12 -!- mnemoc is now known as goat
00:12 -!- goat is now known as mnemoc
00:12 < daja77> mnemoc: you see
00:12 < rolla> how cute the first book my son pulls of the shelf is palm pilot programming :)
00:13 < Mike1> rolla: hey great! :)
00:13 < daja77> rolla: your poor son ;-)
00:13 < Mike1> daja77: he spoke binary before even saying bubu :)
00:14 < Mike1> :)
00:14 < daja77> hehe
00:14 < daja77> but palm programming is a matter of bad taste ...
00:14 < rolla> now he is playing with a fussball :)
00:14 < rolla> perfect
00:14 < n00kie> daja77
00:14 < rolla> now the unix books should be next
00:14 < n00kie> stop sucking on Mike1
00:14 < n00kie> he doesn't wants that
00:14 < n00kie> :P
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00:14 < n00kie> hi mangual
00:15 < daja77> rolla: you come to soccer world championship to germany?
00:15 < rolla> now he has my C book
00:15 < Mike1> n00kie:  ?!
00:15 < rolla> daja77: i could only dream
00:15 < daja77> hey he learns fast
00:16 < daja77> one guy from #mdlug wants to come
00:16 * Mike1 challenges anyone for a soccer game
00:16 < daja77> but he plays soccer himself
00:16 < Mike1> mnemoc: you join team with me right?
00:16 < rolla> Mike1: I suck at it but I love to watch it
00:16 < Mike1> rolla: hehe
00:17 * daja77 wanna see Mike1 run
00:18 < Mike1> daja77: hehe anytime :)
00:19 < daja77> Mike1: you come to 20C3?
00:21 < Mike1> daja77: if cchamilt allows me to take a few days then yes. :)
00:21 < daja77> oh thought he'll come too
00:22 < Mike1> daja77: no clue, we will ask him later when he wakes up
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00:22 < daja77> hehe
00:23 < Mike1> daja77: will you be there?
00:23 < daja77> when?
00:23 < Mike1> 20c3
00:23 < daja77> think so
00:23 < Mike1> good
00:23 < Mike1> will you stay at a hotel or will you sleep there?
00:24 < daja77> sleeping there would be better I guess
00:24 < Mike1> i mean sleeping at the even place
00:24 < Mike1> or staying at a hotel
00:24 < n00kie> Mike1: You'll come from cr to germany?
00:24 < daja77> I don't have much money for hotel stuff
00:24 < Mike1> n00kie: i think it will be from sg to de
00:25 < n00kie> ah
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00:25 < n00kie> how long do you fly from sg to de?
00:25 < Mike1> daja77: ok
00:25 < Mike1> n00kie: i dunno, never been to sg yet :)
00:26 < n00kie> hehe
00:31 < daja77> n00kie: you come to 20c3?
00:33 < n00kie> no
00:33 < Mike1> n00kie: warum?
00:33 < n00kie> to far away
00:34 < Mike1> :(
00:34 < n00kie> :(
00:35 < daja77> far away, huh?
00:35 < Mike1> n00kie: are you telling _me_ it is far away?
00:36 < n00kie> uhm
00:36 < mnemoc> Mike1: i double your time ;)
00:36 < n00kie> Mike1: you are big
00:36 < n00kie> you can travel where you want
00:36 < n00kie> i not :(
00:37 < Mike1> n00kie: hehe i'm just 21
00:37 < mnemoc> good point
00:37 < mnemoc> 21? where?
00:37 < Mike1> n00kie: the old people here are for example mnemoc and daja77
00:37 < daja77> hehe Mike is _big_ *ggg*
00:37 < rolla> Mike1: I am the old one
00:37 < daja77> the channel grandpa ...
00:38 < n00kie> well, you all know, what I mean ;-)
00:38 < Mike1> rolla: shh i though it was a secret :)
00:38 < n00kie> Mike1: Just.. ;)
00:38 < Mike1> n00kie: yeah but i like to make fun of anyone older than me :)
00:38 < Mike1> n00kie: actually younger too :)
00:38 < n00kie> hehe
00:38 < Mike1> bwahaha little n00kie :)
00:38 < rolla> daja77: I am still older than you
00:39 < Mike1> is it really possible that someone is older than daja77? :P
00:39 < daja77> rolla: I was talking of you :P
00:39 < rolla> :)
00:39 < Mike1> brb
00:40 * daja77 steals Mike1's coffee for revenge
00:40 < n00kie> http://www.uforest.com/laura/daja2.jpg
00:40 < n00kie> lazy daja
00:40 < mnemoc> hehehe
00:41 < n00kie> :)
00:41 < Mike1> daja77: yeah yeah
00:42 < Mike1> n00kie: nic epic hehehe
00:42 < rolla> cdrecord sucks
00:42 * daja77 starts to hate n00kie ...
00:42 < n00kie> bad daja77
00:42 < n00kie> evil daja77
00:42 < n00kie> bastard daja77
00:42 * daja77 evil
00:43 < daja77> that fat cat looks more like Mike1 ...
00:43 * daja77 hides
00:43 < Mike1> daja77: excuse me how much do you weight?
00:43 < daja77> dunno
00:43 < mnemoc> ouch
00:44 * Mike1 wieghts 79kb atm
00:44 < Mike1> yes i have lost over 20kg
00:44 * n00kie weights 60kg
00:44 < n00kie> :)
00:44 < Mike1> sure little n00kie :)
00:44 < mnemoc> mmm.... i wights 85 :(
00:44 * daja77 weights less than Mike1 but I am small ...
00:44 < Mike1> 4 years ago /me used to weight 38kg < don't ask >
00:45 * Mike1 is not that tall ..
00:45 * daja77 asks Mike1 
00:45 < daja77> I am only 1.20m
00:45 < Mike1> 1.20?
00:45 < mnemoc> Mike1: how tall?
00:46 < mnemoc> daja77: wtf?
00:46 * Mike1 almost 1.80 ..
00:46 < n00kie> mike1 is 2.10m
00:46 < daja77> it's true
00:46 < n00kie> really?
00:46 < mnemoc> 2.10 and 79k? mmm....
00:46 * n00kie cannot believe that?
00:46 * Mike1 is 1.7x something and 79kg
00:47 < n00kie> mnemoc: How tall are you?
00:47 * mnemoc is 1.92 and 85kg
00:47 * n00kie is exactly 1.7
00:47 < n00kie> m
00:47 < mnemoc> rolla: your turn
00:47 < Mike1> mnemoc: are you up for a baskball game? one on one :)
00:48 < Mike1> basketball*
00:48 < rolla> mnemoc: I don't speak m and kg
00:48 < mnemoc> maybe ;)
00:48 < mnemoc> :(
00:48 < daja77> n00kie: see me holding a speech about rock
00:48 < Mike1> i'm more into extreme sports though :)
00:48 < daja77> http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt5/media/bilder/vortraege/sonntag/10_00/v4/.tmp/IMG_8191.JPG.html
00:48 < daja77> :)
00:49 -!- daja77 is now known as shorty
00:49 < n00kie> Nice, daja :)
00:49 < shorty> :)
00:49 < n00kie> With a portrait picture, you look taller
00:50 < shorty> well I look taller in that wheelchair than I am
00:50 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux
00:50 < shorty> hi jsaw
00:50 < shorty> how tall are you?
00:50 < jsaw> hi shorty
00:51 -!- shorty is now known as daja77
00:52 < mnemoc> shorty: how fast is your chair?
00:52 < jsaw> ah, daja77...
00:52 < daja77> :)
00:52 < daja77> mnemoc: 10km/h
00:52 < daja77> sometimes 12
00:52 < daja77> :)
00:52 < mnemoc> pretty cool
00:52 < rxr> hi
00:53 < mnemoc> hi rxr
00:53 < daja77> hi rxr
00:53 * daja77 wonders how tall rxr is ...
00:53 < rxr> hm?
00:53 < n00kie> rxr: How tall are you?
00:53 < mnemoc> m and kg
00:54 < Mike1> rxr finally here
00:54 < Mike1> :)
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00:54 < daja77> we're just discussing measures of #rocklinux members
00:54 < rxr> 1m80
00:54 < n00kie> kg ?
00:55 < rxr> n00kie: first size - now kg ???
00:55 < rxr> How are we ?
00:55 < n00kie> normal ;-)
00:55 * rxr rename #rocklinux #fitness ...
00:55 < jsaw> 1.85/78
00:55 < n00kie> hehe rxr
00:55 < rxr> s/how/Who/
00:55 < mnemoc> rolla don't want to answer
00:55 * daja77 smallest and jsaw biggest ...
00:56 < daja77> rolla is oldest ...
00:56 < n00kie> s/biggest/tallest
00:56 < jsaw> rolla, how old are you?
00:56 < n00kie> 86
00:56 < n00kie> :)
00:57 < mnemoc> hehehe
00:57 < daja77> evil n00kie
00:57 < rxr> 1.80/68 - my girlfriend says ...
00:57 < daja77> rxr: girlfriends are _always_ right
00:57 < rxr> hi Mike1 and all btw ...
00:57 < jsaw> is rolla really older than 30?
00:57 < mnemoc> she fail to choose him
00:57 < daja77> jsaw: yes
00:58 < jsaw> glad to hear that ;-)
00:58 < daja77> hehe
00:58 < mnemoc> jsaw: and you?
00:58 < Mike1> rxr: still want untested patches from me?
00:58 < jsaw> mnemoc: 30
00:58 < mnemoc> m/kg?
00:58 < rxr> Mike1: yes - please - I
00:59 < rxr> 'll release -beta6 without them - and merge them for -rc1 ...
00:59 < jsaw> mnemoc: dito 1.85/78
00:59 < Mike1> rxr: mm..
00:59 < Mike1> rxr: could you please merge my 2 patches to the list before releasing -beta6?
00:59 < n00kie> I hope that rock 2.0 will be released before july
00:59 < daja77> n00kie: haha
00:59 < rxr> n00kie: nope
00:59 < Mike1> rxr: are we sure we want to move to rc1 now?
00:59 < n00kie> rxr: Oh
01:00 < rxr> Mike1: yes - we want to have some form of stable release <dot>
01:00 < daja77> n00kie: wanna bet against me, I could pay of blindcoder then ;-)
01:00 < mnemoc> so /me is the tallest ;)
01:00 < Mike1> rxr: ok
01:00 < Mike1> so mailing patches to rxr now :)
01:00 < Mike1> *vbeg*
01:00 < rxr> Mike1: wether we change and improve stuff after the 2.0.0 is another thing - look at the kernel - there is always stuff to do ..
01:00 < mnemoc> Mike1: to the list :(
01:00 < Mike1> mnemoc: no to rxre
01:00 < Mike1> rxr*
01:00 < mnemoc> to the list :(
01:00 < Mike1> mnemoc: most of them are untested
01:01 < mnemoc> k
01:01 < Mike1> mnemoc: i can cc to you if you want though
01:01 < mnemoc> yes yes
01:01 < rxr> Mike1: mark them as untested on the top - and add that I wanted to see them ...
01:01 < mnemoc> i love untested stuff
01:01 < Mike1> rxr: i excluded mnemoc's patches from mines, please check his
01:01 < Mike1> to you or to the list?
01:01 < rxr> Mike1: if other like to see them to the list ...
01:02 < Mike1> rxr: well mnemoc wants to see them so..
01:02 < Mike1> rxr: i will split it on to 2 mails..
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01:03 < mnemoc> thanks Mike1, thanks rxr
01:04 < Mike1> mnemoc: what for?
01:04 < mnemoc> for sharing your untested patch to me ;)
01:04 < mnemoc> what about minimal.iso? stage 5?
01:04 * daja77 thinks of sending garbage patches to mnemoc 
01:05 < tsa> hehe
01:05 < rxr> hi tsa
01:05 < tsa> hi rxr
01:05 < tsa> rxr: i assume you have missed a patch on the list..
01:06 < tsa> daja committed a new package - ypbind ..
01:07 < tsa> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 17:38:01 +0200
01:07 < tsa> From: Daniel Jahre <rock@lospalmos.net>
01:07 < tsa> Subject: [rock-linux] [PATCH] adding package ypbind
01:07 < rxr> tsa: which one? I'm now applying - I was away this afternoon / evening ...
01:08 < daja77> mnemoc: I could send you some rtai patches, which need some cleanup before release to test for you, on wednesday?
01:11 < jsaw> I have evolution-1.4 to offer...
01:11 < mnemoc> daja77: i can read them, but no test it :(
01:11 < Mike1> mnemoc:  rxr first round of patches sent to the list.
01:12 < daja77> mnemoc: why
01:12 < Mike1> mnemoc once again remember they are *untested*
01:13 < mnemoc> daja77: my box needs an exorcism
01:13 < daja77> hehe delete windows ;-)
01:17 < rxr> mnemoc: oops - the minmal target yes ... /me just building ...
01:18 < mnemoc> rxr: did you apply mike's minimal patch?
01:18 < Mike1> rxr: /me is building mnimal too, please apply my patch so both builds are alike :)
01:19 < rxr> mnemoc: just in this second ...
01:20 < daja77> == 01:19:47 =[5]=> Building kasc/torcs [1.2.1 2.0.0-beta6].
01:20 < daja77> build still not finished >_<
01:21 < daja77> if it finish this night, I can tell them I brought real fresh isos for you ;-)
01:22 < jsaw> what's the status of (confopt) path rewriting for jailing
01:26 < n00kie> gtg, bed
01:26 -!- n00kie is now known as [n00kie]
01:26 < [n00kie]> Sleep well guys :)
01:26 < daja77> n8 [n00kie]
01:26 < Mike1> n8 [n00kie]
01:26 < Mike1> :)
01:26 < [n00kie]> n8 daja77, Mike1
01:26 * daja77 faster :)
01:26 < Mike1> daja77: not here :P
01:26 < [n00kie]> ;-)
01:26 < [n00kie]> Monitor off
01:26 < daja77> *argl*
01:28 < daja77> Mike1: wanna bet how long it takes before he gets disconnected? :)
01:28 < Mike1> daja77: hehe 3 minutes :)
01:29 < daja77> hehe 5 min :)
01:29 < Mike1> ok
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01:30 < Mike1> rxr: can i host minimal target isos at ur server?
01:30 < daja77> Netsplit spit out chris ...
01:31 < rxr> Mike1: yes
01:31 < rxr> Mike1: but I need to think how you have to transfer them first ...
01:31 < Mike1> rxr: rsync ...
01:31 < rxr> Mike1: can't I pull them from your site ?
01:32 < Mike1> mm..
01:32 < rxr> Mike1: are all of those patches untested ?
01:32 < Mike1> ok.
01:32 < daja77> <evil> svn import </evil>
01:32 < Mike1> rxr: most
01:32 < Mike1> rxr: i had to change priorities and it went to a low priority thing, i'm sorry.
01:33 < Mike1> rxr: i do have a a little bit more of time and hd space for this.
01:33 < Mike1> rxr: btw those are just base..
01:35 < mnemoc> wow... Check-PkgVersion is amazing
01:35 < daja77> ?
01:35 < Mike1> mnemoc: suprissed ? :)
01:36 < Mike1> mnemoc: better that checking every [V] against freshmeat don't you think?
01:37 < rxr> mnemoc: article about the script for the next rolling rock ?
01:37 < mnemoc> of course
01:37 < Mike1> hehe good mnemoc :)
01:37 < daja77> !> [ writing debug log to /R.work/src.cheapskatefonts.10564 ..
01:37 < daja77> !> Running main build function 'fonts_main' ...
01:37 < daja77> !> unhandled extension! Please modify cheapskatefonts.conf
01:37 < daja77> wtf?
01:37 < mnemoc> mmmm
01:37 < Mike1> rxr: want an article of minimal ?
01:37 < mnemoc> Mike1: of course ; rxr: dunno
01:37 < daja77> when is the next rolling rock issue?
01:38 < Mike1> mnemoc: we can do the article together if you want
01:38 < mnemoc> Mike1: sounds interesting
01:41 * daja77 should dig through this build.log when he is back from MD
01:41 < rxr> Mike1: it is not particularly me - any article would be nice
01:41 < rxr> daja77: every few month when we have enought articles ...
01:41 < Mike1> rxr: its been a while since i don't write for rolling rock, will be fun
01:41 < daja77> rxr: okis
01:42 < daja77> there seem to be some untested .conf files in rock
01:43 < rxr> daja77: yes - maybe. which ones do you mean=?
01:44 < tsa> -lilo- [Global Notice] Hi all.  We're experiencing severe attacks and we'll be shutting down the network piece by piece.  Thanks.
01:44 < tsa> uh-oh
01:44 < Mike1> ah great
01:45 < Mike1> rxr: i case i get cutted off, spect second mail of patches in some minutes
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01:45 < daja77> rxr: interested in a quick fix
01:45 < rxr> daja77: jups
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01:46 < daja77> rxr: in kasc/scilab.conf change append_var to var_append on lines 24 and 25
01:48 < rxr> daja77: ack - committing
01:48 < daja77> poor kasc, he has a package where damn configure scripts tests the presence of /dev/dsp
01:48 < rxr> daja77: which one ?
01:48 * daja77 hopes never smoking the same grass then the autoconf folks
01:49 < daja77> squaroid
01:49 < daja77> you saw the output of cheapskatefonts I posted here btw?
01:50 < rxr> daja77: nope
01:51 < daja77> !> Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
01:51 < daja77> !> This is free software; see the source for copying condit ..
01:51 < daja77> !> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A  ..
01:51 < daja77> !> [ writing debug log to /R.work/src.cheapskatefonts.10564 ..
01:51 < daja77> !> Running main build function 'fonts_main' ...
01:51 < daja77> !> unhandled extension! Please modify cheapskatefonts.conf
01:51 < daja77> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-cheapskatefonts.out -> 5-cheapskatefonts.err
01:51 < daja77> == 06/24/03 01:35:33 =[5]=> Aborted building package cheapskatefonts.
01:51 < daja77> there seems to be a problem with the build function
01:54 < daja77> ah change mainfunction to custmain should do the trick
01:54 < rxr> daja77: I'm just improving this - can you test my commit in some minutes ß
01:55 < daja77> I guess nikolaus haven't tested the build of this package
01:57 < daja77> I'll fix that package myself, and rebuild it, don't like to do svn up agian, don't wanna risk this build
01:57 < rxr> daja77: you can up this single file
01:57 < daja77> good idea
01:59 < daja77> hmm haven't your commit mail on that issue yet
01:59 * daja77 likes to be debugger
01:59 < rxr> daja77: still editing ...
02:00 < daja77> ic
02:01 < rxr> daja77: now
02:01 < rxr> completely untested - maybe it fails barely ...
02:03 < daja77> you did more than changing mainfunction to custmain?
02:03 < rxr> erhm - yes ?
02:03 < daja77> *argl* you changed the sig
02:04 < daja77> == 02:05:14 =[5]=> Building nikolaus/cheapskatefonts [2003-04-23 2.0.0-beta6].
02:04 < rxr> sig ?
02:04 < daja77> !> [ writing debug log to /R.work/src.cheapskatefonts.10564 ..
02:04 < daja77> !> Running main build function 'fonts_main' ...
02:04 < daja77> !> tar (child): Cannot open archive PenguinAttack.tbz2: No  ..
02:04 < daja77> !> tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
02:04 < daja77> !> tar: Child returned status 2
02:04 < daja77> !> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
02:04 < daja77> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-cheapskatefonts.out -> 5-cheapskatefonts.err
02:04 < daja77> == 06/24/03 02:05:45 =[5]=> Aborted building package cheapskatefonts.
02:05 < daja77> ah forget it, i can't read anymore :)
02:05 < daja77> what is this PenguinAttack for
02:05 < rxr> daja77: have you downloaded it ?
02:05 < rxr> that is a downloaded file for the package ...
02:05 < daja77> I guess not, wasn't needed before
02:07 < daja77> I can't believe that I am still here debugging :))
02:07 < rxr> daja77: hm - yes with custmain it would be even nicer to realize ...
02:08 * daja77 used custmai9n for rtai package ...
02:08 < rxr> daja77: could you do the final clenup by converting it to custmain =
02:08 < rxr> ?
02:08 < rxr> damn today I have it with ß and = for the simple ? char ...
02:08 < daja77> and then svn commit
02:08 < rxr> daja77: hm?gcc3/wrappers.in
02:08 < daja77> huh?
02:08 < rxr> argh damn shit fuck - damn beer
02:08 < daja77> *gg*
02:08 < rxr> daja77: hm? svn commit ? more a mail to me ;-)
02:09 < daja77> *aargh*
02:09 < rxr> or was this a try to enable write support for you when I have consumed some beers?
02:10 < daja77> drink some more and I try again
02:10 < mnemoc> rxr: did I remove trailing comma on wrapper.in?
02:10 < daja77> in the long run it sucks anyway to have an rcs without using its benefits
02:10 < rxr> mnemoc: maybe it was me ...
02:11 < rxr> daja77: yes - I already wrote in some mails that people get fine grained write access
02:11 < rxr> but in the past Clifford and I had to filter many patches out - currently the trend is that more skilled people show up, where we do not need to reject so much - so some peple get write access
02:11 < daja77> doin a patch and send it to you is more work for me then you doin a s/mainfunction/custmain
02:12 < rxr> daja77: yes
02:12 < rxr> daja77: just continue your good work and you get access in some weeks ...
02:12 < daja77> okis
02:12 < rxr> as mnemoc, esden, jsaw, tsa, ..., ...
02:13 < mnemoc> :o .... thanks
02:13 < rxr> but some poeple simply send stuff that should not go into the tree without some eyes taken a look
02:13 < rxr> well SMP of course is also on the valid people list ...
02:13 * daja77 kills rxr
02:14 < rxr> daja77: why ?
02:14 < daja77> due the update the damn build script relaunched the whole build *this sucks*
02:14 < rxr> daja77: what do you mean ?
02:15 < daja77> == 02:14:26 =[1]=> Building base/linux25 [2.5.72 2.0.0-beta6]. <-- this
02:15 < rxr> daja77: what have you updated ?
02:16 * Mike1 sign... wow many ones have write access... how come i dont..
02:16 < rxr> Mike1: I might get too
02:16 < daja77> Mike1: you were the first ... ;-)
02:16 < rxr> currently I have mostly nfilus on the blacklist ...
02:16 < Mike1> daja77: ?
02:17 < daja77> *ggg*
02:17 < Mike1> daja77: i do not have write access...
02:17 < rxr> Mike1: only I have - this was just a over the time some core delopers get write access ....
02:17 < daja77> rxr: ahem maybe it only retries borken packages
02:18 < rxr> daja77: only if you selected this ...
02:18 < Mike1> rxr: ah isee.
02:18 < daja77> cant remember
02:20 < daja77> wtf this damn download script doesn't fetch this penguin fluff
02:21 < daja77> I fear I'll get same of this nasty versio0n conflicts once more
02:21 < rxr> daja77: here for me it got fetched ...
02:21 < daja77> it doesn't even try, my it isn't on the Doenload index
02:22 < rxr> daja77: you do a required?
02:22 < daja77> yepp
02:22 < rxr> is the package in your package selection=
02:22 < rxr> erhm "?"
02:22 < daja77> cheapskatefonts is
02:22 < rxr> an -all download fetches it here ...
02:23 < rxr> daja77: could you try a Download -pkg checkskatefonts ?
02:23 < daja77> haha
02:24 < daja77> Processing pattern download/*/cheapskatefonts/* ...
02:24 < daja77> Matched: download/nikolaus/cheapskatefonts/PenguinAttack.tgz
02:24 * daja77 puzzled
02:24 < daja77> does this means it is there?
02:25 < rxr> erhm
02:25 < daja77> it is ls told wtf
02:25 < daja77> me
02:26 < rxr> jups
02:26 < daja77> hey /me doesn't even need dau.pl to type nonsense now
02:27 < daja77> !> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A  ..
02:27 < daja77> !> [ writing debug log to /R.work/src.cheapskatefonts.10564 ..
02:27 < daja77> !> Running main build function 'build_this_package' ...
02:27 < daja77> !> Extracting PenguinAttack.tbz2 (--use-compress-program=bz ..
02:27 < daja77> !> Changeing into /R.work/src.cheapskatefonts.1056414470.18 ..
02:27 < daja77> !> chown: failed to get attributes of `/R.work/src.cheapska ..
02:27 < daja77> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-cheapskatefonts.out -> 5-cheapskatefonts.err
02:27 < daja77> == 06/24/03 02:28:43 =[5]=> Aborted building package cheapskatefonts.
02:27 < daja77> nikolaus: please _damn_ test your packages!
02:28 < rxr> daja77: write it to him - the last time I did he complained I'm to hard and need more soft skills ...
02:28 < daja77> ROTFL
02:29 < jsaw> *grin*
02:30 * jsaw curses Mathematica
02:30 < rxr> jsaw: hm?
02:31 < jsaw> what tf do i need such stupid stuff if it cannot even simply copy a plot from it to Adobe Illustrator
02:31 < daja77> hmm /me looking at cheap*conf, is  $taropt a valid var?
02:32 * daja77 checking
02:32 < rxr> daja77: yes
02:33 < daja77> but it seems not to be working ...
02:34 < daja77> I tested it manually, works
02:34 < jsaw> (sorry, I'm trying to get some figures ready for my paper, *haare rauf*)
02:34 * daja77 loosing hair as well
02:34 < rxr> jsaw: btw: are you a student?
02:35 < jsaw> rxr: phd student (bzw. Doktorand)
02:37 < daja77> bah I'm not capable of checking if his sed expression is right atm
02:38 < rxr> daja77: I might have added the sed stuff
02:38 < jsaw> s/daja77's hair/annihilation/, hehe
02:38 * daja77 kicks jsaw 
02:38 < rxr> daja77: or should I convert it quickly =
02:38 < rxr> ?
02:39 < daja77> this is the error I get
02:39 < daja77> Running main build function 'build_this_package' ...
02:39 < daja77> Extracting PenguinAttack.tbz2 (--use-compress-program=bzip2 -xf) ...
02:39 < daja77> Changeing into /R.work/src.cheapskatefonts.1056414470.18463.3418605146/PenguinAttack ...
02:39 < daja77> chown: failed to get attributes of `/R.work/src.cheapskatefonts.1056414470.18463.3418605146/PenguinAttack': No such file or directory
02:39 < daja77> --- BUILD ERROR ---
02:39 < daja77> Creating file list and doing final adoptions ...
02:39 < daja77> Found 6 files for this package.
02:39 < rxr> daja77: should I ?
02:40 < daja77> the filename should be PenguinAttack.ttf instead of PenguinAttack
02:40 < daja77> rxr: ack
02:40 * jsaw is away: one more coffee
02:41 < rxr> jsaw: hehe ;-)
02:41 < daja77> fsck damn late
02:42 < daja77> .oO my build for md hasn't finished ...
02:43 * daja77 curses the linux25 package
02:43 < rxr> daja77: what is this version of the font package doing ?
02:44 < daja77> ??
02:44 < rxr> daja77: could you try after and svn up of this cheapskatefonts dir ?
02:44 < daja77> I thought you wanna modify sth
02:45 < daja77> okis
02:45 < rxr> daja77: I modified it - but I just imagined the next bug - one iteration please
02:46 < daja77> damn I got a conflict
02:46 < rxr> daja77: just remove the files and redo svn up
02:46 < rxr> (I alredy fixed the next bug in it ...)
02:47 < rxr> (only the two files in cheapskatefonts - not the wohle tree ...)
02:48 < daja77> rxr: we should have a drink on lxtag and then kick him ...
02:48 * jsaw is back (gone 00:07:22)
02:48 < daja77> == 06/24/03 02:50:18 =[5]=> Finished building package cheapskatefonts.
02:48 < daja77> rxr: congrats
02:48 < rxr> daja77: is the flist ok noe ?
02:48 < rxr> s/noe/now/ ?
02:49 < jose> hello everybody!!
02:49 < rxr> all fonts in the gem ?
02:49 < rxr> hi jose
02:49 < daja77> how do I check this
02:49 < rxr> just vi,less,more the var/adm/flist/cheapskatefonts (--typos)
02:50 < jose> working hard to make the rock harder !?
02:50 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/PenguinAttack.ttf
02:50 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: var/adm/cksums/cheapskatefonts
02:50 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: var/adm/dependencies/cheapskatefonts
02:50 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: var/adm/descs/cheapskatefonts
02:50 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: var/adm/flists/cheapskatefonts
02:50 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: var/adm/md5sums/cheapskatefonts
02:50 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: var/adm/packages/cheapskatefonts
02:50 < daja77> that's all, the fonts of the zip files are missing
02:51 < rxr> daja77: ah yes I know why - mom
02:51 < daja77> jose: nope we work soft to make rock softer ;-)
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02:53 < mnemoc> daja77: are you as good kid eater as flooder?
02:54 < daja77> I am debugging, get out of my way! :)
02:54 * mnemoc falls down the chair
02:55 < daja77> good mnemoc *ggg*
02:56 < rxr> daja77: now ?
02:56 < daja77> *sigh*
02:58 < daja77> !> `dustismo_italic.ttf' -> `/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/TrueTyp ..
02:58 < daja77> !> Trying to copy the default documentation ...
02:58 < daja77> !> Creating /usr/<..> if required ...
02:58 < daja77> !> Archive:  /R.work/download/nikolaus/cheapskatefonts/El_A ..
02:58 < daja77> !> replace license.txt? [y]es, [n]o, [A]ll, [N]one, [r]enam ..
02:58 < daja77> !> (assuming [N]one)
02:58 < daja77> !>   inflating: El_Abogado_Loco.ttf
02:58 < daja77> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-cheapskatefonts.out -> 5-cheapskatefonts.err
02:58 < daja77> == 06/24/03 02:59:45 =[5]=> Aborted building package cheapskatefonts.
02:58 < rxr> oh my ...
02:59 < daja77> I guess it is cos all have license.txt in it, maybe you should delete it afterevery unzip
03:00 < rxr> daja77: now
03:00 < daja77> you owe me sth ...
03:01 < rxr> 10GB on gsmp today ;-)!
03:01 < daja77> cool
03:01 < rxr> 60GB this months
03:01 < rxr> (and only http - ftp not counted ...
03:01 < rxr> )
03:02 < daja77> == 06/24/03 03:03:46 =[5]=> Finished building package cheapskatefonts.
03:02 < rxr> and the flist is nicer now ?
03:02 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/Dustismo_Roman.ttf
03:02 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/Dustismo_Roman_Bold.ttf
03:02 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/Dustismo_Roman_Italic.ttf
03:02 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/Dustismo_Roman_Italic_Bold.ttfcheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/Dustismo_sans.ttf
03:02 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/PenguinAttack.ttf
03:02 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/balker.ttf
03:02 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/dustismo_bold.ttf
03:02 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/dustismo_bold_italic.ttf
03:02 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/dustismo_italic.ttf
03:02 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/el_abogado_loco.ttf
03:02 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/flatline.ttf
03:02 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/it wasn't me.ttf
03:02 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/junkyard.ttf
03:03 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/markedfool.ttf
03:03 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/progenisis.ttf
03:03 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/swift.ttf
03:03 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/wargames.ttf
03:03 < daja77> cheapskatefonts: usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/winks.ttf
03:03 < daja77> should be ok?
03:03 < Mike1> daja77: GOD DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
03:03 < rxr> yes - seems to be ok ...
03:04 < daja77> Mike1: *ggg* this was a must, now I am off to bed ...
03:04 < Mike1> daja77: you have been the "must" for quite a while already...
03:04 < daja77> Mike1: now you can flood if you like, I am away now, have fun
03:05 < Mike1> daja77: don't miss understand me, but you just know my reacting to floods :)
03:05 < Mike1> daja77: /me not a flooder :)
03:05 < rxr> daja77: thanks for testing and good night!
03:05 < daja77> at least it brought you back ;-)
03:05 * Mike1 knows something called query for flooding :)
03:05 < Mike1> daja77: i\ve been here all the time, just busy
03:05 < Mike1> :)
03:06 < daja77> gn8 Mike1 rxr and all, nice to work with you
03:06 < Mike1> daja77: sleep well my freind
03:08 < jsaw> g'night daja77
03:09 < rxr> I'll leave now, too
03:09 < Mike1> rxr: :(
03:10 < rxr> jsaw: if you have some free minutes - your comments to bug-tracking systems would be very welcome - best via mail to rene@rocklinux.org ;-)
03:10 < Mike1> rxr: so do you want the gnome patches too? or should i look at them?
03:10 < rxr> good night Mike1 jsaw and *
03:10 < Mike1> rxr: answer to me before you leave please.
03:10 < rxr> Mike1: if you have time to look over them that would be nice - otherwise just send the raw patches - I'll test and merge them
03:11 < rxr> Mike1: sure - I always answer when I'm just about to leave ... ;-)
03:11 < Mike1> rxr: i do not that much time yet, so it will be better if you look at them _this_ time
03:11 < Mike1> rxr: next time i do it :)
03:11 < Mike1> rxr: have a great n8
03:11 < rxr> Mike1: ack - send them over - I would like to see GNOME more up-to-date (although I do not use it - just for the ROCK up-to-dateness ...)
03:12 < jsaw> rxr: haven't forgotten it, g'night, sleep well.
03:12 < Mike1> rxr: they are on the way.. you will hate me when you see the amount but oh well
03:12 < Mike1> cu Ren
03:12 < rxr> Mike1: thanks
03:12 < rxr> jsaw: thanks
03:12 < rxr> n8
03:13 < rxr> Mike1: could you do the minimal build for mnemoc - I need the computing power for -beta6 ....
03:13 < Mike1> rxr: i'm building it already, it will be ready by tomorrow afternoon.
03:14 < Mike1> rxr: keep ur computing power for beta6 :)
03:14 < Mike1> 58 patches sent to rxr ...
03:15 < rxr> oh my - tomorrow will be a even more patch-merging day then today ...
03:15 < Mike1> rxr: hehe i said you would hate me :)
03:15 * Mike1 runs
03:16 < Mike1> :)
03:16 < Mike1> cheers rxr <EOT>
03:20 < jsaw> Mike1: you forgot the patches...
03:21 < Mike1> jsaw: urrgss... yeah thanks ! :)
03:31 < Mike1> jsaw: re-sent, with the patches this time :)
03:31 < Mike1> jsaw: btw _alot_ of patches.
03:34 < Mike1> ok i come back in some hours
03:40 < jsaw> cu
04:13 < mnemoc> re
04:19 < jsaw> hello mnemoc
04:20 < mnemoc> hello jsaw
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06:12 < holyolli> moin
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06:23 < holyolli> re
06:27 < mnemoc> moin holyolli
06:28 < holyolli> hola mnemoc
06:30 < Mike1> cpt holyolli
06:30 < holyolli> Mike1!
06:30 < Mike1> re.
06:30 < holyolli> Mike1: the cpt still takes some days... ;-)
06:30 < holyolli> Mike1: between juli 15th and 22th we've you cpl checks =)
06:30 < Mike1> ok holyolli :)
06:31 < holyolli> Mike1: got my mail?
06:31 < Mike1> no mail yet
06:31 < Mike1> checking
06:33 < Mike1> cpt mmm.. so no spected date to come?
06:34 < holyolli> Mike1: unfortunately not, because i don't know, when i finish my flight training
06:34 < Mike1> holyolli: damn it :(
06:34 < holyolli> i can only estimate it - and that is the problem...i just need a weather cancel and i'm one day behind
06:35 < Mike1> grr..
06:35 < Mike1> ping mnemoc
06:35 < holyolli> for the id-weekend i have time - this is obviously
06:36 < mnemoc> pong Mike1
06:36 < Mike1> mnemoc: look: == 22:32:56 =[5]=> Building base/openssl [0.9.7b 2.0.0-beta6].
06:36 < Mike1> thats for you :)
06:36 < mnemoc> :D
06:36 < Mike1> mnemoc: as i promissed, tomorrow afternoon / n8 you will have the iso
06:36 < Mike1> mnemoc: revision 605.
06:38 < mnemoc> i'll be with the crappy-box in 14 hours,... and friday (now+15)
06:38 < mnemoc> can be ready for the first?
06:39 * holyolli still fights with 2.4kernel for alpha
06:39 < holyolli> *grrr*
06:39 < mnemoc> buy a x86 ;)
06:40 < holyolli> mnemoc: if you have that performance on an intel system ;-P
06:40 < holyolli> *flame* ;-)
06:40 < mnemoc> i can trade my x86 for your alpha :D ... no problem with 2.4
06:42 * mnemoc is happy with a regular performance intel system :-\
06:45 < mnemoc> damn psp, i have to do from 5a to 10a for wednesday
06:47 < mnemoc> mmm... i think i'll have to reinstall crappy-box on friday
06:48 < mnemoc> Mike1: please mail me the location of the iso PLEASE ;-)
06:48 < mnemoc> good n8/moin
06:49 < holyolli> mnemoc: hasta manana
06:49 < mnemoc> hasta mañana holyolli
06:49 * holyolli hadn't the correct key available ;-)
06:49 < holyolli> ?
06:49 < holyolli> ah!
06:49 < holyolli> got it ;)
06:50 < mnemoc> 164
06:50 < mnemoc> alt+164/165
06:51 < mnemoc> does it work on alpha/linux?
06:51 < Mike1> gute nacht holyolli
06:52 < mnemoc> nacht?
06:52 < Mike1> mnemoc: manana te la doy.. sufre!! :P
06:52 < holyolli> my alpha is 5000 miles away...i'm here with my laptop
06:52 < mnemoc> :(
06:52 < holyolli> mnemoc: nacht is _exactly_ the word ;-)
06:52 * mnemoc writing down
06:52 < [n00kie]_> moin
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06:52 < Mike1> [n00kie]_: hola
06:52 < holyolli> moin n00kie
06:52 < Mike1> n00kie: and bye
06:52 < n00kie> hola Mike1 :)
06:52 < n00kie> bye Mike1 :)
06:52 < mnemoc> bye
06:52 < n00kie> sleep well
06:52 * Mike1 going to bed
06:53 < n00kie> bye mnemoc sleep well too :)
06:53 < Mike1> jeg da. :)
06:53 < n00kie> hehe
06:53 < holyolli> n8 Mike1
06:53 * mnemoc follows Mike ;)
06:53 < n00kie> just stand up
06:53 < n00kie> Hi holyolli
06:54 < n00kie> damn
07:01 < blindcoder> moin
07:01 < holyolli> moin blindcoder
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07:51 < cchamilt> hu
07:51 < cchamilt> hi
07:56 < blindcoder> moin chris
07:56 < cchamilt> seen mike?
07:57 < blindcoder> 06:53 < Mike1> jeg da. :)
07:57 < blindcoder> an hour ago
07:57 < cchamilt> Hmm
07:57 < cchamilt> I was told to meet him now.
07:58 < cchamilt> Oh well.
07:58 < blindcoder> hmm... I'm sure he's just having some coffee then :)
07:58 < cchamilt> He is finishing up our amavisd-new to exim setup soon.
07:59 < cchamilt> Hey, have you seen suse's bootsplash?
07:59 < blindcoder> only the one from 7.3 and 8.0
08:00 < blindcoder> they're nice to look at, but IIRC there were some serious kernel hacks involved
08:00 < cchamilt> Have you done anything with rock and the fb stuff you were doing?
08:01 < blindcoder> yeah, but I still only get it working with rivafb... mostly because I simply don't get the vesafb >_<
08:02 < cchamilt> How hard is it to patch 2.4.21?
08:02 < blindcoder> but if you have a working frame buffer then it should be allright
08:02 < blindcoder> I have patches for /etc/rc.d/rc to write to /proc/progress and such.
08:03 < blindcoder> But I still have to port the thing to 2.4.21
08:03 < blindcoder> the currentt LPP is for 2.4.20
08:03 < cchamilt> I have vesafb.
08:03 < blindcoder> what gfx card?
08:03 < cchamilt> Most boxes I am targeting have ATI 8MB embeddeds.
08:04 < blindcoder> well... shouldn't be too much of a problem, as long as the FB runs and the image doesn't exceed 640x480
08:04 < cchamilt> I think most are mach64 based.
08:04 < cchamilt> 640x480 is max?
08:05 < blindcoder> no
08:05 < blindcoder> I have it running with 1280x1024
08:05 < cchamilt> Vesa goes much higher, is it a compatibility thing?
08:05 < blindcoder> basically, it's a kernel size thing
08:05 < blindcoder> since the picture goes statically into the kernel as a .h file
08:06 < cchamilt> oh.
08:07 < cchamilt> But there are huge image sizes with the distrib I saw.
08:07 < blindcoder> SuSE works differently... they load the images (.mng) from an initrd
08:07 < blindcoder> the LPP really is just a splash screen similiar to Win95/98
08:08 < cchamilt> Well I need something around 640 or 800 I guess.
08:08 < cchamilt> Lilo only support 640
08:08 < blindcoder> that's not a problem
08:08 < cchamilt> I want a consistent feel from lilo to the login.
08:09 < blindcoder> makes sense
08:09 < blindcoder> so 640x480 is what we should go after
08:09 < cchamilt> 800x600 would be best, but lilo already cut that down and grub patches seems to be too.
08:10 < cchamilt> The system goes into links and runs kind of kiosk mode.
08:10 < blindcoder> One thing is that printk(); should either be replaced by a stub, the image shouldn't be 480 i height or /dev/console ust point somewhere else
08:10 < cchamilt> OK.
08:11 < cchamilt> I think /dev/console should redirect to another vc
08:12 < blindcoder> or else the printk(); mess up the image
08:12 < cchamilt> I thought the suse one gets around this though.
08:13 < cchamilt> It did some kind of switching
08:13 < blindcoder> hmm... it just might...
08:13 < blindcoder> it opens a little console in the framebuffer to which /dev/console points
08:13 < blindcoder> but I haven't ever worked with that one
08:14 < cchamilt> It looked like you can hit a key to see the actual boot, but I don't know as their patches arent up to date.
08:14 < cchamilt> Lilo does that too.
08:15 < cchamilt> It would be cool to have centered logo and a console on the bottom off to the side.
08:16 < cchamilt> Heck, I will have to see about how directfb does things, maybe I could even do it on the login screen.
08:17 < cchamilt> 16 colors throughout (lilo constraint) is pretty tight though.
08:18 < cchamilt> Really would like 16bit 800x600, but I don't think any boot splash supports that.
08:20 < cchamilt> brb
08:21 < blindcoder> LPP supports 16Bit
08:22 < blindcoder> and a console under the Splash Screen
08:22 < blindcoder> under as in below
08:23 < cchamilt> Yeah, but I mean lilo or grub, neither support large vesa screens to help 'standardize'
08:23 < cchamilt> If they want safe standards, then why do graphics at all.
08:24 < blindcoder> well... 640x480 in 16 colors can be considered quite standard nowadays
08:24 < cchamilt> In 1985 it was too.
08:25 < cchamilt> I want to sell shiny things.
08:26 < blindcoder> sure, ugly things rarely sell :)
08:27 < blindcoder> so it will be lilo/grub patching after all
08:27 < cchamilt> It is just that I know the spec of each box we put our software on.
08:28 < cchamilt> Problem is that both have support for the low res, so not sure if patching higher is available.
08:29 < blindcoder> looking at the red hat boxing I'm sitting ATM I know that it's possible. A shiny sky-picture in the background of grub...
08:29 < cchamilt> Yeah gentoo has that too.
08:30 < cchamilt> But grub patches are hard to get ahold of.  We aren't actually tracking grub well.
08:31 < cchamilt> Grub is kind of incubating right now.
08:31 < blindcoder> hmm... worst case, we can just install some gentoo and get the patches that way :)
08:33 < cchamilt> Yeah, but gentoo grub is 640x480 limited too it appears (looking at splashes).
08:33 < blindcoder> hmm... that stinks...
08:34 < blindcoder> sweet... LPP-2.4.20 applies almost perfectly (2 hunks are offset) to Linux-2.4.21
08:35 < cchamilt> I think lilo might actually do better splashes.  Need to read some more.
08:36 < blindcoder> don't let me interrupt you :)
08:36 < cchamilt> No, this is something I would like your help with.
08:37 < cchamilt> I will go look at lpp
08:38 < blindcoder> http://lpp-themes.sourceforge.net/
08:38 < cchamilt> thanks
08:55 < cchamilt> hmm
08:55 < cchamilt> do you have the install_init macro setup for this?
08:57 < cchamilt> Should be able to send failure on an error and translate run sequence - ie. s15 to 15%
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08:59 < DeElsasser> morje
09:01 < blindcoder> moin DeElsasser
09:01 < blindcoder> cchamilt: install_init? not that I know....
09:18 < daja77> moin
09:20 < DeElsasser> moin daja77
09:21 < daja77> Auzain?
09:23 < daja77> *argl* still lots of compile errors in rock
09:24 < daja77> anyway build finished, will test when I had some more sleep ...
09:26 < daja77> cu later
09:26 < DeElsasser> Auzain ist tod
09:26 < DeElsasser> Es lebe DeElsasser
09:32 < cchamilt> ok
09:32 < cchamilt> blindcoder: interested in a sysinit macro change
09:41 < cchamilt> How do I add to the an init style menu?
09:46 < cchamilt> Wow, that was easy.
09:46 < cchamilt> clifford is cool.
09:47 < cchamilt> blindcoder: I have a patch that will make install_init send calls to /proc/progress, it is also available from the menu
09:48 < cchamilt> Now all I have to do is get the lpp tools to build and to make me a pretty progress screen.
09:50 < blindcoder> cchamilt: get the lpp-0.4.2, and my lpp-2420 patch (it still applies to 2.4.21)
09:50 < blindcoder> then, before building the kernel, you have to run theme_install from lpp-0.4.2 theme.tar.gz /patch/to/linux-src and activate both the LPP and framebuffer in the kernel config
09:51 < blindcoder> I just did
09:51 < blindcoder> theme_install matrix.tar.gz /usr/src/linux-2.4.21
09:51 < blindcoder> and then activated Linux Progress Patch and 3Dfx Framebuffer (that's my primary gfx card)
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10:17 < rxr> hi
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10:38 < rxr> tagged 2.0.0-beta6
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10:44 < DeElsasser_> re
10:46 < rxr> hello DeElsasser_
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10:55 < rxr> svn:// on gsmp.tfh-berlin.de enabled
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10:56 < cchamilt> orp
10:56 < cchamilt> opp
10:56 < cchamilt> eep
10:56 < blindcoder> chris?
10:56 < blindcoder> whose strangulating you?
10:56 < cchamilt> Yeah?
10:57 < cchamilt> I have an lpp ready to be tested.
10:57 < cchamilt> I think.
10:57 < cchamilt> It needs a theme for it and a theme selector.
10:58 < cchamilt> To use it, one has to copy the pkg_linux* in its directory to a target
10:58 < cchamilt> You also have to tell sysinit to be lpp in config.
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10:59 < rxr> hi daja77
10:59 < cchamilt> We need a progress theme for rock.
10:59 < blindcoder> yes
11:00 < blindcoder> but that's basically just a picture. I think the ROCK Logo would be fine for that
11:00 < cchamilt> I will be doing one for our product, but I have no idea what to use as a them for either.
11:00 < blindcoder> rxr: I'm currently restarting the build due to tthe tagging of -beta6
11:00 < cchamilt> hehe ROCK logo...
11:00 < blindcoder> rxr: any wishes? :)
11:01 < cchamilt> blindcoder: would you like this package?
11:01 < cchamilt> to take over I mean..
11:01 < blindcoder> cchamilt: sure, send it over
11:01 < cchamilt> Need you to test it anyway!
11:02 < blindcoder> cchamilt: I'm also currently preparing the updated LPP to send to Tobias Mathes (the current LPP Maintainer)
11:02 < blindcoder> cchamilt: hehe :)
11:03 < blindcoder> I'm ready for anything :D
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11:04 < rxr> blindcoder: what whishes ? For your build ?
11:04 < rxr> or for the ROCK LPP logo ? ;-)
11:05 < cchamilt> OK it is on its way
11:06 < cchamilt> drock should make lpp default :)
11:07 < cchamilt> It has a bare bones .desc and lpp has no real structure so it has to use a custmain
11:07 < cchamilt> sysvinit not tested, so realy it could all be crap.
11:08 < rxr> is it possible to build a LPP enabled kernel but not to use it?
11:09 < rxr> say only enable it when you know your system is working correct ?
11:10 < blindcoder> rxr: the build. I suck at graphics
11:10 < blindcoder> rxr: the LPP only kicks in if your framebuffer runs
11:12 < cchamilt> blindcoder: add LIBS  = -lpng -lz -lm to the fblogo make...
11:12 < blindcoder> but I don't think it would be hard to use a kernel parameter
11:13 < blindcoder> cchamilt: okay, put into ~/REMEMBER
11:13 < blindcoder> cchamilt: but I won't be able to actually test it within the next... 5-6 hours, as I'm still at work :)
11:14 < cchamilt> No prob, I may have it actually working by then...
11:15 < blindcoder> hehe
11:15 < cchamilt> fb based appliances are cool.
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11:21 < blindcoder> hmm... the package looks good
11:22 < blindcoder> okay, I'll run a pentium4 optimised generic build with sysv_lpp
11:22 < cchamilt> :)
11:22 < blindcoder> I'll use lain theme for the time being
11:23 < cchamilt> I should add a theme loader into pkg_linux that can load it in
11:24 < cchamilt> I am not sure where else things like that would be decided.
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11:24 < blindcoder> I would just put a theme into [D] of linux24
11:25 < blindcoder> and apply that, hosted somewhere on rocklinux.org
11:25 < blindcoder> with a reference to it in the config.hlp of the lpp package
11:27 < cchamilt> But most themes don't need lpp, so it should be tied to theme I think.
11:28 < blindcoder> hmm... oh... you meant the distinction between lpp themes, icewm themes, kde themes and the like?
11:28 < cchamilt> Oh sorry my mind wandered mid sentence
11:29 < cchamilt> I meant most targets don't need lpp
11:29 < cchamilt> alah bootdisk
11:31 < blindcoder> hmm... right
11:31 < blindcoder> but those targets usually use package including rather than package excluding
11:32 < blindcoder> so first they tag the packages they want, and then they exclude everything else, so I don't worry about that
11:33 < cchamilt> so we exclude linx24?
11:33 < blindcoder> no, we exclude lpp
11:34 < cchamilt> but targets can have downloads too
11:34 < cchamilt> hmm.
11:35 < cchamilt> Where do you want to put the install_theme call?
11:35 < blindcoder> in the lpp.conf custmain
11:35 < cchamilt> after linux has been built?
11:36 < blindcoder> hrm
11:36 < blindcoder> you got me there...
11:36 < cchamilt> Yeah, have to think how to do this
11:36 < blindcoder> OTOH
11:36 < blindcoder> I htink I know...
11:36 < blindcoder> a patch
11:36 < cchamilt> :)
11:37 < blindcoder> a simple patch, it's as easy as that
11:37 < cchamilt> fblogo_patch?
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11:37 < blindcoder> we just prepare a patch for our  logo and add it to linux24 patchfiles
11:37 < blindcoder> that way we can do it from the lpp package
11:38 < cchamilt> Then it can be added to any target next to the lpp patch in the pkg_linux*
11:38 < blindcoder> right
11:41 < cchamilt> So do we just put a var add to patchfiles for $base/target/?$target?/theme.patch
11:41 < blindcoder> that should be enough
11:41 < cchamilt> Notice how I am target oriented
11:41 < blindcoder> that way, we can also have different logos for different targets
11:42 < cchamilt> OK, I'll try it here.
11:42 < blindcoder> i.e. maybe a black and white for minimal, a flashy colored one for a general game taget, a few NES screenshots for cliffs NES-Emulator-Target, the "normal" ROCK Logo for generic...
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11:46 < cchamilt> Yep.
11:46 < daja77> re
11:46 < cchamilt> OK, I will now make a theme for my demo system.
11:46 < cchamilt> hi
11:47 < daja77> hi cchamilt
11:47 * blindcoder will have lunch in 10 mins
11:48 < cchamilt> I will have to start concentrating on work here a bit.
11:49 < esden> hi all
11:49 < daja77> hi esden
11:49 < cchamilt> hi
11:49 < rxr> cu
11:49 < cchamilt> dont have enough fonts in gimp
11:50 < cchamilt> bye
11:50 < esden> cu rxr 
11:50 < daja77> cu rxr
11:50 < esden> cchamilt: are you a designer? ;-)
11:50 < blindcoder> moin esden
11:50 * daja77 thinks of driving rxr nuts by wasting some cds
11:50 < cchamilt> scriptfu
11:50 < blindcoder> daja77: harr
11:51 < cchamilt> I want something easy, but not something cheezy
12:06 < daja77> ... ok just using cdrw to test
12:18 < daja77> *lol* rxr comments on commits are funny ...
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12:37 < netrunner> brrr cold here.
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13:01 < esden> does anyone like addison wesley books?
13:01 < esden> if yes you can perhups find something to download here : http://www.vnunet.de/testticker/freedownloads/freedownloads.html
13:02 < daja77> ah someone posted that link yesterday ... didn't know it were add-wes books
13:06 < netrunner> esden: bs?
13:09 < esden> netrunner: ack ... already sitting in the right place ;-)
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13:14 < netrunner> esden: power supply nearby?
13:14 < esden> yes ... I have power
13:14 < daja77> rxr: ahem you added linux25 to rock but not to default grub conf ...
13:20 < Freak> can one use current 2.5 w/o danger?
13:20 < Freak> like.. i dont mind it crashing
13:20 < Freak> it just shouldnt crash my hardware
13:21 < Freak> well theres no real answer to that i guess
13:21 < Freak> hmm "2.4 might crash your hardware as well" ok i get it.
13:22 * Freak runs and hides
13:22 < daja77> bye bye Freak
13:22 < esden> Freak: you like monologues, right?
13:22 < daja77> *gg*
13:23 < Freak> ;)
13:25 < blindcoder> Freak: well... let's put it this way.... the changelog claims that the ide-filesystem-destroyer-bug is gone
13:26 < daja77> cos all the logs are destroyed *ggg*
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13:26 < Freak> blindcoder: hehe
13:26 < Freak> (seriously? ;)
13:27 < daja77> esden: your monologues are longer ;-)
13:27 < esden> daja77: :P
13:27 < blindcoder> seriously, it claims it gone
13:27 < daja77> or should I say your mom's monologues
13:27 < esden> daja77: I did not say that I do not like monologues ... I only asked if Freak likes that ...
13:27 * daja77 hides
13:28 < Freak> esden :)
13:28 < esden> daja77: no ... these are depricated
13:28 < daja77> hehe
13:29 < Freak> blindcoder: I don't follow the lkml (or the changelogs) so you can tell me every kind of shit and I don't know if to believe you or not. so has there been some bug in ide code really?
13:30 < Freak> another thing: you guys know if this "Revolution OS" movie they sell at thinkgeek [http://www.thinkgeek.com/books/nonfiction/5dd5/] is the same as "The Code" (german title "Codename: Linux") they aired on arte?
13:30 < Freak> (ok the original titles don't actually correspond..
13:31 < Freak> dang why'd I always miss the )
13:32 < netrunner> Freak: you never smile at the end.
13:33 < daja77> netrunner: hehe this is caused by debian usage
13:33 * daja77 runs away
13:34 < Freak> heh
13:34 < daja77> sorry cheap pun ...
13:34 * Freak puts on his inflamable underwear
13:35 < daja77> :)
13:35 < netrunner> Freak: I really do not care about your underwear.
13:35 < daja77> netrunner: you mean you start flaming his head?
13:35 * -> esden takes his flamethrower and aims at Freak's head ...
13:36 * netrunner supplys a lighter
13:36 < esden> do you wear your underwear on your head? *VBEG*
13:36 < daja77> *rofl*
13:36 < netrunner> esden: daja does, apparently
13:36 < esden> thnks netrunner 
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13:36 * netrunner looks at daja
13:36 < esden> hi fake 
13:36 < fake> hi there
13:37 < netrunner> hi fake
13:37 < daja77> hi fake
13:37 < fake> i'm trapped in a lab @ sun -_- ;)
13:37 < esden> fake: we are trying out inflammable underware ... do you want to play with us?
13:37 < Ge0rG> daja77: are you going to magdeburg today?
13:37 < daja77> fake: do we have to rescue you?
13:37 < netrunner> fake: better than a jail without sun light no?
13:37 < daja77> Ge0rG: yepp
13:37 < Freak> I dont actually need that kinda underwear
13:37 < Ge0rG> whoops... thought it would be thursday
13:37 < fake> with the underwear, yes, but nothing more!
13:37 < Freak> debian makes me completely inflamable head-to-toe ;P
13:37 < Ge0rG> daja77: see you there ;)
13:38 < netrunner> Freak: would you stop bothering me with your underwear?
13:38 < Freak> netrunner: underwear underwear underwear
13:38 < daja77> great, should get my speech ready and start driving ...
13:38 < fake> daja77: aehm... maybe in a year or two. when i crashed all the blades, enterprises, ultras and whatever here
13:38 < netrunner> Freak: see, I don't wear any ;)
13:38 < Freak> hehe
13:39 < fake> Ge0rG: i have seen welle:e live 2 times now
13:39 < Ge0rG> fake: they are cool :)
13:39 < fake> Ge0rG: they absolutely rule
13:39 < daja77> fake: install rock on them
13:39 < fake> rock c64 port?
13:39 < Ge0rG> hehe
13:40 < fake> georg: did you fetch their new album already?
13:40 < Ge0rG> fake: nur tote frauen sind schön?
13:40 < daja77> fake: c64 port on a sun, wtf
13:41 < esden> daja77: didn't you know that sun is using c64 as their servers?
13:41 < Ge0rG> hm... context mismatch detected ;)
13:41 < esden> they rely on the real hardware ... and not the crap they produce ... 
13:42 < esden> *G*
13:42 < daja77> *lol*
13:42 < Ge0rG> daja77: will you bring along current rock 2 isos? ;)
13:42 < esden> fake is running beowulf on c64 to emulate a sun blade ... or enterprise
13:43 < fake> georg> ack.
13:43 < daja77> Ge0rG: yepp just installed them on a laptop some minutes ago
13:43 < Ge0rG> fake: yeah, I've got it
13:44 < Ge0rG> daja77: I badly need a current distro with xfree 4.3 and stuff for my new banias based notebook *:)
13:44 < fake> have you watched the "1000 weisse lilien" video?
13:44 < Ge0rG> fake: nope
13:44 < Freak> ?
13:44 < daja77> Ge0rG: bring three cds and I can burn it for you
13:45 < Ge0rG> daja77: hm... how about a crosslink cable? ;)
13:45 < fake> georg: it's on the datatrack of the cd, and it is really worth watching!
13:45 < Freak> i asked this before.. but can I crosscompile rock on a duron(x86) for a g4(ppc)?
13:45 < daja77> if you have one ...
13:46 * Freak has one!
13:46 < Ge0rG> fake: I've got only the promo version
13:46 < daja77> Freak: in general yes, but rxr said some pakages can only be compiled native
13:46 < Freak> hmmmm
13:46 * Ge0rG doesn't believe in the cd production industry
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13:52 < fake> hi huebi!
13:52 < huebi> Moin
13:52 < huebi> :-)
13:52 * fake is getting nervous, need nicotine... 
13:53 < huebi> identd is funktional ... again.
13:53 < huebi> brb
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13:53 < fake> cant leave... cant leave.... must .. stay...
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13:55 < huebi> re
13:56 < daja77> hi huebi
13:56 < huebi> hi daja77
13:58 < fake> haha, they give their servers funny names here... obatzta, masskruag...
13:58 < Freak> ?
13:59 < daja77> *lol*
13:59 < esden> *rofl*
13:59 < huebi> weisswuarst ?
13:59 < esden> hi huebi ... sbtw ;-)
13:59 < daja77> no wonder they think all the linux users want solaris instead
14:00 * netrunner wants weiswuerscht. now. with dwb.
14:00 < Freak> whom are we actually talking about?
14:00 < fake> fuchzgal is here, too
14:00 < daja77> Freak: Sun Microsystems iirc
14:00 < netrunner> fake: where are those servers located? I mean geographically?
14:00 < fake> and "hosenbergl" ;)
14:01 < daja77> *roflmao*
14:01 < Freak> netrunner: bahamas
14:01 < fake> netrunner: you have a half guess
14:02 < netrunner> fake: I'd rather like to have a hoibe
14:02 < Freak> hehe
14:02 < esden> off ... home
14:02 < esden> cu guys
14:02 < Freak> cu
14:02 < daja77> cu esden
14:03 < fake> netrunner: good guess.
14:04 * DeElsasser_ is back (gone 03:15:02)
14:04 < fake> bye esden...
14:05 < Freak> re DeElsasser_
14:05 < DeElsasser_> re all
14:06 * fake is getting a cigarette, ican't take anymore' laters!
14:06 < daja77> wb DeElsasser_
14:06 < Freak> hehe fake: weakling.
14:06 * Freak . o O ( chocolate ice cream.. )
14:07 < DeElsasser_> daja77: wb?
14:07 < daja77> welcome back ...
14:07 < Freak> DeElsasser_: welcome back
14:08 * DeElsasser_ add this in his dictionnary
14:10 -!- DeElsasser_ is now known as DeElsasser
14:11 < Freak> d'ou viens-tu dans l'alsace?
14:12 < DeElsasser> Niederhaslach
14:12 < Freak> uh.. wherever that is :)
14:13 < DeElsasser> entre Schirmeck et Strasbourg
14:13 < Freak> ah bien
14:13 < Freak> brb
14:14 < DeElsasser> ich frag lieber nicht was brb ist...
14:14 < daja77> be right back
14:15 < DeElsasser> daja77: merci
14:16 < Freak> DeElsasser: t'es dans irc le premiere fois?
14:18 < DeElsasser> Freak: no but I have problems with english, then brb, lol, imho...
14:36 < fake> re
14:36 < fake> ph34r m4 w34kn355
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14:37 < jsaw> re
14:40 < blindcoder> fake: not enough coffee today?
14:41 < fake> the amount of nicotine needed is directly proportional to the amount of caffeine in my blood
14:42 < jsaw> hehe, ACK
14:42 * blindcoder hands fake a package of cigarettes
14:43 * jsaw grabs a cup of coffee now...
14:43 < blindcoder> sorry, was my last one :)
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14:44 < jsaw> now rolling some tobacco...
14:44 * jsaw is away: coffee break
14:45 < rolla> re
14:51 < rolla> rene are you here?
14:53 < DeElsasser> hi jsaw
14:53 < rolla> damn this 1.7 is broekn bad
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14:56 < blindcoder> 1.7? 2.0.0-beta6 just got tagged
14:57 < pg> hi
15:02 * jsaw is back (gone 00:17:40)
15:02 < jsaw> hi DeElsasser
15:10 < DeElsasser> jsaw: I must thank you for my new nick, i'm very happy :-)
15:13 < fake> hrmpf
15:13 < fake> i should have given that server a nicer name
15:13 < fake> i didn't know it will be emailable from the outside
15:14 * fake 's new mail address:
15:14 < fake> fake@paula.germany.sun.com
15:14 < fake> DOUH
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15:19 < rolla> blindcoder: I have 1.7 install on my build box
15:19 < rolla> fake: you work for SUN now?
15:21 < fake> rolla: no, i work for a firm that works for sun
15:21 < fake> so indirectly, yes ;)
15:22 < rolla> cool
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15:29 < daja77> *argl* don't tell me that the standard module in rock only works for one network card
15:31 < rolla> ?
15:33 < daja77> nice 2.4.21 hangs when pcmcia card is removed and plugged in again
15:34 < rolla> suck
15:34 < rolla> daja77: you could have my problem my stage2 complains of a kernel bug
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16:03 < DeElsasser> daja77: good news, ich komme nach Karlsruhe :-)
16:06 < daja77> DeElsasser: cool
16:08 < rolla> daja77: have you heard of ide-opis ?
16:08 < daja77> rolla: hmm interesting
16:08 < daja77> ide-opies?
16:09 < rolla> nope
16:09 < rolla> maybe ide-ops
16:09 < rolla> that is what I have a kernel bug in :(
16:09 * daja77 packing 
16:09 < dreamind> Hi =)
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16:43 * daja77 off to magdeburg now
16:43 < daja77> cu
16:57 < jsaw> cu
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17:09 < n00kie> Mike1: ping
17:13 < DeElsasser> salut bisame...
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17:35 < rolla> yawn
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18:04 * fake off, bye
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18:13 < jose> good morning *
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18:20 < rolla> re jose
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18:53 * blindcoder back
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19:04 < A-Tui> hi
19:50 < rolla> damn boot base
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19:53 < rolla> anyone here?
19:54 < DeElsasser> yo
19:54 < rolla> DeElsasser: how much do you know about the bootdisk target?
19:54 < netrunner> rolla: wtp?
19:54 < DeElsasser> hum, I do one yestersday, was my first
19:55 < rolla> netrunner: I am having it complain about no initrd= on boot of the cd
19:55 < rolla> Creating initrd filesystem image:
19:55 < rolla> -> Creating temporary files.
19:55 < rolla> !> No free loopback device found!
19:55 < rolla> happens during the build
19:55 < rolla> never seen that one beofre
19:55 < DeElsasser> I had the same problem, rebuild and then it works
19:56 < netrunner> rolla: and, do you have free loopbacks? (hard limited, see limits.h iirc)
19:56 < DeElsasser> I suppose there are too much src.xxx files, no?
19:57 < rolla> netrunner: hmm I am not sure what would be using them all never had trouble with the build before
19:57 < netrunner> rolla: I guess that mount magic that rock does during build to get the src dir inside the chroot consumes loopbacks
19:58 < rolla> hmm but I have only run 2 builds so far
19:58 < n00kie> Mike1: ping
19:59 < DeElsasser> rolla try ./script/Cleanup
19:59 < rolla> DeElsasser: just did that trying again
20:00 < rolla> DeElsasser: no good
20:00 < DeElsasser> what version of rock-src have you?
20:01 < rolla> I just did a svn update ;)
20:02 < DeElsasser> sorry, can't help you...
20:03 < DeElsasser> i have an other problem (not serious for me), linux25 doesn't build, I remove it and restart build, (lost log .errr sorry) :-]
20:04 < rolla> DeElsasser: it doesn't really build for anyone
20:04 < DeElsasser> i'm about building minimal (if it interrest somebody...)
20:04 < rolla> it is crap that should not be in the stable
20:05 < netrunner> I had another problem: corrupt packages.db. I just rebuilt the ISO and hope it works now.
20:05 < rolla> :)
20:05 < rolla> I have stage 5 lilo not building on my boot build
20:08 < DeElsasser> what means crap?
20:08 < netrunner> rolla: is it always lilo?
20:08 < rolla> netrunner: yes it is allways lilo
20:09 < netrunner> DeElsasser: the end of all food you eat.
20:09 < rolla> it just started with the new version of lilo
20:09 < rolla> netrunner: ;)
20:09 < rolla> DeElsasser: scheisse
20:09 < netrunner> rolla: tss
20:10 < rolla> netrunner: ?
20:10 < netrunner> rolla: the words you say ...
20:11 < rolla> :)
20:11 < DeElsasser> I build to learn more about rocklinux, I like this distro
20:11 < rolla> netrunner: I was just explaining what the word ment
20:11 < netrunner> crap f**ck ... now that cd is again corrupted damn orkscum :/
20:11 < rolla> DeElsasser: that is good :)
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20:12 < DeElsasser> I try so many other distros, and never found what I want, now I can do my own distro: fantastic
20:14 * netrunner just consumed 48 toffifee in 0.5h
20:14 < rolla> DeElsasser: that is the idea
20:14 < rolla> netrunner: that is not healthy for you
20:15 < DeElsasser> I know that it's a long way to go, but I find this good...
20:15 < rolla> I am starting my minumal build
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20:15 < rolla> DeElsasser: :)
20:15 < tsa> hi all.
20:15 < rolla> DeElsasser: you are from france?
20:15 < DeElsasser> rolla: yo
20:16 < rolla> intresting
20:16 < DeElsasser> why?
20:16 < rolla> don't get to speak to many french people mostly germans and south americas
20:17 < rolla> then again I am the odd ball here being the only one of my kind
20:17 < DeElsasser> das man hier auch mal deutch sprechen kann, ist auch gut fur mich weil english :-((
20:18 < rolla> ja
20:18 < rolla> DeElsasser: I am american so english is my best I also know a little german
20:18 < DeElsasser> rolla: i don't understand your last words
20:18 < n00kie> bonjour madame
20:19 < rolla> hmmm
20:19 < DeElsasser> then again I am the odd ball here being the only one of my kind?
20:19 < rolla> ich sprechen kleine deutch
20:19 < rolla> DeElsasser: I am the only american here that I know of
20:20 < DeElsasser> ah bon?
20:20 < n00kie> rolla: "Ich spreche ein bisschen Deutsch" :)
20:20 < rolla> n00kie: :)
20:20 < rolla> danke
20:21 < DeElsasser> stage 3 coreutils...
20:21 < rolla> n00kie: my high school teacher taught very bad german I have learned
20:21 < DeElsasser> must go see you tomorrow...
20:22 < DeElsasser> rolla: what time have you?
20:22 < netrunner> rolla: enough to order beer :)
20:22 < DeElsasser> netrunner: lol
20:23 < rolla> netrunner: ja
20:23 < rolla> DeElsasser: 13:25
20:23 < n00kie> rolla: hehe
20:23 < netrunner> DeElsasser: ou c'est suffice pour commande une biere :)
20:24 < rolla> == 08:20:31 =[0]=> Building base/glibc23 [2.3.2 2.0.0-beta6].
20:24 < DeElsasser> oula
20:24 < DeElsasser> netrunner: c'est suffisant pour commander une biere
20:24 * netrunner 's teacher always thought I have no hand for languages ... not knowing that would be my job later .. java, c, perl :)
20:25 < netrunner> DeElsasser: oh, je m'excuse :)
20:26 < DeElsasser> netrunner: on ne s'excuse pas, on demande pardon ;-)
20:26 < netrunner> DeElsasser: never mind :)
20:27 < DeElsasser> je te pardonne
20:27 < DeElsasser> va en paix ...
20:27 < DeElsasser> mon fils
20:27 < netrunner> je n'avai parlai le france par 5 ans :/
20:27 < netrunner> and that didn't made it better :)
20:27 < DeElsasser> jetzt muss ich aber gehen
20:28 * netrunner thinks it's fun to know at least some words in a bunch of languages 
20:28 < netrunner> DeElsasser: ciao, au revoir
20:28 < DeElsasser> servus
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20:35 < rolla> netrunner: american teachers suck
20:38 < rolla> == 08:37:57 =[1]=> Building base/linux24 [2.4.21 2.0.0-beta6].
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21:00 < rolla> everyone is leaving :(
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21:15 < rolla> Freak:
21:18 < Freak> rolla<
21:19 * Freak diving under the desk to open his box
21:19 < rolla> why?
21:20 < Freak> why what
21:20 < Freak> why open the box?
21:20 < rolla> yes
21:20 < Freak> because either the controller or the cable is b0Rken and so I get erras all the time.
21:20 < rolla> suck
21:20 < Freak> now I'm gonna stick those harddiskdrives inta da slowa pc
21:20 < rolla> Freak: I get errors all the time from rock
21:21 < Freak> yea well yano
21:21 < Freak> its like..
21:21 < Freak> i boot up once
21:21 < rolla> I call them rbugs
21:21 < Freak> this and that segfaults
21:21 < Freak> i reboot
21:21 < Freak> its fixed
21:21 < Freak> but something else segs
21:21 < Freak> then i reboot
21:21 < Freak> xawtv and xterm seg
21:21 < Freak> and so on.
21:21 < Freak> beeship everything.
21:21 < Freak> bbl
21:22 < rolla> okay
21:25 < rxr> re
21:26 < rolla> re rxr
21:26 < rolla> I a very intresting bug for you
21:27 < rxr> rolla: you are a bug ?
21:28 < rolla> that is not nice
21:28 < rolla>  kernel bug at ide-iops.c:1261!
21:28 * tsa creating patch
21:28 < rolla> I get that when I try to load stage2
21:28 < rolla> tsa: a rolla patch?
21:28 < tsa> --- old 2003-06-24 21:28:01.000000000 +0200
21:28 < tsa> +++ new 2003-06-24 21:28:02.000000000 +0200
21:28 < tsa> @@ -1 +0,0 @@
21:28 < tsa> -rolla
21:28 < tsa> *G*
21:29 < rxr> rolla: sorry - just that you wrote this - I could not resist ;-)
21:29 < rolla> ja
21:29 < tsa> hehe
21:29 < rolla> do you know what ide-iops is?
21:29 < rxr> rolla: a file in the linux kernel ...
21:30 < rolla> well have you seen this error before?
21:30 < n00kie> Good night guys :)
21:30 -!- n00kie is now known as [n00kie]
21:31 < rxr> rolla: nope - what mainboard / chipset do you have ?
21:31 < rolla> rxr it is a dell laptop
21:31 < rolla> with PII processor
21:31 < rolla> I will have to boot 1.7 on it to see more
21:34 < rolla> rxr you think it will boot fine on another box?
21:35 < rxr> rolla: you use a selfbuild one ?
21:35 < rxr> (but no matter of the answer: yes: it should boot find on most other boxes ine this matrix)
21:39 < rolla> rxr yes it is self built
21:40 < rolla> I have run a boot build without any optimazation so maybe that will fix it
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21:43 < rolla> -> Not building using dietlibc!
21:43 < rolla> have to love that statement
21:43 < amery> hi :)
21:43 -!- amery is now known as mnemoc
21:43 < rxr> rolla: hm - the no optimization should not make such a difference - you can try ...
21:43 < rxr> hi mnemoc
21:44 * mnemoc using irsii first time :)
21:44 < mnemoc> Mike1: ping
21:44 < tfing> irssi i suppose
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21:44 < mnemoc> :)
21:45 < mnemoc> how do i 'change windows'?
21:45 < mnemoc> fix:window
21:46 < rolla> rxr: I will try else I find it odd that 1.5 and 1.7 have installed on this laptop with no problems
21:46 < tcr> moin all
21:46 < tfing> alt+1,2,3... or ctrl+p,n or alt+a or /window 1,2,3...
21:52 < rolla> rxr you think it is a chipset issue?
21:57 < tcr> hey mnemoc. I guess your forgot about the case? ;)
21:59 < mnemoc> nope :)
22:00 < mnemoc> i have the info
22:00 < mnemoc> but i dont know how to said what i see
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22:02 < tcr> mnemoc: query
22:08 < Freak> so..
22:08 < Freak> jetzt läuft hier wieder die leise, langsame 333er celeron-kiste.
22:09 < Freak> brb
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22:16 < netrunner> re n00kie, freak
22:17 < netrunner>  ... and still nobody can tell me how to recreate a package.db, or where it is created?
22:18 < Freak> re
22:25 < mnemoc> Mike1: ping :(
22:26 < rolla> mnemoc: he is out to lunch
22:27 < mnemoc> how many cows?
22:27 < rolla> not sure
22:29 < mnemoc> i have a class now... cu
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22:47 < rolla> = 10:46:35 =[3]=> Building base/dietlibc [0.22 2.0.0-beta6].
22:47 < rolla> -> Building this package with dietlibc (statically).
22:47 < rolla> -> Not building using dietlibc!
22:47 * rolla cheers again
22:50 < rolla> maybe I will take your isos
22:52 < rxr> re
22:53 < rxr> rolla: this messasge is just a echo_status mismatch - nothing to worry about (me fixing ...)
22:53 < rolla> :)
23:01 < rxr> hm - a real fixed woudl result in rearranging the dietlibc wrapper
23:01 < rxr> I'll not yet do this - but I changed the status prints ...
23:02 < rxr> rolla: feel free to svn up ...
23:02 < rolla> rxr in a bit when this build is done :)
23:02 < rolla> or is it a big change?
23:03 < rxr> rolla: this was a tiny echo_status only change
23:03 < rolla> okay then it can wait
23:03 < rxr> you can svn up this packages/base/dietlibc only ...
23:03 < rolla> okay
23:26 < rxr> I merge current svn HEAD into the 2.0.0-beta6 tag I did this morning
23:26 < rxr> any objections to do a -beta6 releas now ?
23:26 < tsa> no.
23:27 < rxr> tsa: no objections ?
23:27 < tsa> yes.
23:27 < rxr> wow - how does it comes ?
23:27 < tsa> no counter-arguments here.. ;)
23:28 < rxr> ok - so I release now - and then I can apply most of the queued not that tested patches from the list ...
23:29 < tsa> ..but i have a suggestion to make..
23:29 < esden> hi all!!!
23:29 < tsa> what do you think about adding "--sysconfdir=$root/etc/ssh" to the openssh package?
23:30 < tsa> (instead of just /etc)
23:31 < rxr> tsa: what is the standard - maybe SMP has some comments ?
23:31 < rxr> hi esden
23:31 < tsa> rxr: i don't know
23:32 < rxr> tsa: esden: Mike1:I'll label svn HEAD as -rc1.
23:32 < tsa> ack
23:32 < Mike1> ack
23:32 < tsa> SMP: are you awake?
23:34 < SMP> kind of
23:34 < rxr> hi SMP
23:34 < tsa> ah..
23:34 < tsa> hi SMP
23:34 < tsa> <tsa> what do you think about adding "--sysconfdir=$root/etc/ssh" to the openssh package?
23:34 < tsa> <tsa> (instead of just /etc)
23:34 < tsa> <rxr> tsa: what is the standard - maybe SMP has some comments ?
23:34 < SMP> I'm in favor of /etc/ssh
23:35 < SMP> I thought this had been done in 1.5 already
23:35 < SMP> OpenBSD also uses /etc/ssh ...
23:36 < esden> rxr: nice to know
23:36 < esden> hi SMP 
23:37 < tsa> hi esden
23:37 < netrunner> wonderful. I think I remove the build and restart :(
23:37 < tsa> hehe
23:40 < esden> netrunner: why?
23:40 < netrunner> esden: packages.db gets corrupted and I do not know why. I think I have some odd files in my build dir.
23:41 < netrunner>  .o( maybe I should not always svn up during build? )
23:41 < esden> netrunner: that can be ... ... but the problem should be analysed .. perhups it is a bug that has to be fixed?
23:41 < esden> netrunner: that may be a problem ... yes
23:41 < Freak> any idea of configuring X for two keyboards (with different layouts and probably even different Xmodmaps)?
23:42 < esden> Freak: you are a Freak ;-)
23:42 < Freak> ;)
23:42 * -> esden has no idea how to do that
23:42 < Freak> ack
23:42 < Freak> me neither.
23:42 < Freak> same goes for google.
23:43 < esden> Freak: you are not Freak enough ;-)
23:43 < Freak> #xfree86 is totally silent over my question ;)
23:43 < Freak> tell me who is
23:43 < esden> hehe! ;-) *wonder*
23:44 < rxr> netrunner: such stuff is not a svn up during the build problem - what do you see exactly =
23:45 < rxr> Freak: IIRC this is not yet possible (search for real-dual patches on the internet - there are some hacky onces ...)
23:45 < Freak> =)
23:45 < Freak> rxr: you'll probably understand for you have an ibook :)
23:46 < Freak> rxr: everyone else is just wondering why one would want this :)
23:46 < tsa> rxr: i just sent a patch for openssh to the list.
23:46 < rxr> tsa: ok
23:47 < tsa> i'm dumb, so diffed it from within package/base, so you'll have to apply it from there, too.. ;)
23:49 < rxr> Freak: I can also imagine why I want this on a dual or triple head Matrox card with two or three USB keyboards ....
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23:51 < tsa> Mike1: ?
23:53 < Freak> rxr: thats easier to imagine i think.
23:53 < Freak> but I just read linux didnt understand multiple keyboards
23:53 < Freak> it just interprets a keycode as a keycode, no matter where it comes from.
23:53 < tsa> shouldn't be a problem with usb.
23:54 < Freak> so even if X could do it, the kernel doesnt do it
23:54 < rxr> jups - but much changed for 2.6 (but I do not know if this will be finally possible with 2.6 - maybe just 95% nearer ...)
23:54 < Freak> rxr: . o O ( waiting for 2.6 ;)
23:54 < tsa> (although i'd rather use a sun type5 keyboard on my pc ;)
23:54 < rxr> tsa: it is - you only have one "stdin" per kernel instance ...
23:54 < tsa> ah, i see.
23:55 < rxr> technically it is no problem - just rewriting the kernel's input system ;-) (done to a great part ...)
23:56 < tsa> hehe...i don't have any use for more than one keyboard on my pc, anyway..
23:56 < tsa> <- sitting in a stack of different boxes, no space left..
23:57 < rxr> I would like this.
23:58 < tsa> i could rather need a nice scsi raid controller (or a complete new box)
--- Log closed Wed Jun 25 00:00:55 2003