--- Log opened Fri Jun 27 00:00:31 2003
--- Day changed Fri Jun 27 2003
00:03 < Mike1> ping rxr
00:03 < Mike1> rxr: what does this mean? "-> This package is currently blacklisted and not build using dietlibc!" specifically the blacklisted part.
00:08 < rxr> oh - man - do I need to change the status again ?
00:08 < rxr> this is just fine - ignore it ...
00:08 < Mike1> just tell me why "blacklisted"
00:09 < Mike1> rxr: i'm not asking you to change it, i'm just curious :)
00:09 < rxr> because esden put it into the "do not use dietlibc section" - it is there for some month already ...
00:09 < Mike1> rxr: no panic :)
00:09 < Mike1> ok
00:10 < Mike1> rxr: btw i've noticed we are not moving with uclibc, so since a few days i have been doing a bit on work on this target
00:10 < Mike1> getting help from one of the team cores
00:10 < Mike1> at some point i guess esden and i will merge
00:13 < dreamind> night =)
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00:26 < tsa> hi huebi
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00:30 < mart193> hi
00:31 < mart193> is kopete tab feature rock specific :), never seen this before?
00:33 < tsa> hm...i don't use it, but judging from the package, it should be the default behavior
00:33 < tsa> i.e. there are no patches applied or unusual options used to build it.
00:39 < rxr> hi tsa
00:40 < tsa> hi rxr
00:40 < rxr> patch from clifford applied ;-)
00:41 < rxr> so - what doto for the /bin/find thing - such a tiny thing - so controversal ...
00:42 < tsa> hm...no idea.
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00:43 < rxr> hm - solaris sucks
00:44 < tsa> why?
00:44 < rxr> even ls is so limitted ...
00:44 < tsa> i've found it to be a pretty convenient OS..
00:44 < rxr> so a box at the tu-berlin.de with solaris has find in both:
00:44 < rxr> eidfjord veremaje 14 (/bin): ls -l /usr/bin/find /bin/find
00:44 < rxr> -r-xr-xr-x   1 root     bin        20040 Aug 15  2001 /bin/find
00:44 < rxr> -r-xr-xr-x   1 root     bin        20040 Aug 15  2001 /usr/bin/find
00:49 * Mike1 once more tells rxr "lets make a symlink for /usr/bin "
00:49 * Mike1 wonders if he will ever be heard..
00:50 < rxr> Mike1: yes - I currently favour this
00:50 < rxr> hope you are happy to hear ...
00:50 < rxr> cool
00:50 < Mike1> rxr: hehe thanks, finally we come to an agreement :)
00:50 < rxr> Create-DepDB
00:50 < rxr> Package anjuta has 160 dependencies. I don't believe this.
00:50 < Mike1> wow
00:51 < Mike1> rxr: nearly the same amount of packages you have in ur repos
00:52 < rxr> ;-)
00:52 < Mike1> :P
00:52 < rxr> but looking into the .cache file this doesn't seem to be that unlikely ...
00:52 < Mike1> ack.
00:56 < rxr> hehe - me joking on #ppclinux
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01:16 < rxr> we need an auto X setup
01:16 < Mike1> yes.
01:17 < Mike1> are you volunteering to do it? :)
01:18 < jsaw> rxr: the rep-gtk thing. please revert rock-trunk/package/gnome14/rep-gtk01/ to 637. Version 0.16 was the port to GTK-2. So for gnome14, this must stay at version 0.15.
01:25 < rxr> ok
01:27 < jsaw> rxr: but there's another error there. rep-gtk should build past libglade...
01:27 < jsaw> Mike1: can you recheck the build order? Or should I do that?
01:28 < Mike1> jsaw: i can do it sometime tomorrow, if you have the chance to do it sometime sooner, do it :)
01:32 < jsaw> Mike1: I'd do it on the weekend...
01:34 < Mike1> jsaw: so i guess i will do it then :)
01:34 < Mike1> jsaw: i'm "working" on the gnome stuff anyways.
01:34 < Mike1> right rxr?
01:35 < rxr> sure
01:35 < rxr> Mike1: most compiles here ...
01:36 < jsaw> compilation is not the problem. the (optional) dependencies are.
01:36 < Mike1> rxr: excellent, tonight i use all my dual athlon power at home build desktop and hunt bugs on the desktop target more specifically the gnome repos
01:36 < Mike1> btw rxr have you uploaded the iso (s) for me to test yet?
01:36 < link_> hi mike
01:36 < Mike1> hi link_
01:36 < link_> o_0
01:36 < rxr> Mike1: ah - mom
01:37 < Mike1> link_: hehe now i recognize ur signature :)
01:37 < link_> 0_o
01:37 < Mike1> yes 0_o :)
01:37 < link_> =)
01:37 < Mike1> how are things Sascha?
01:38 < link_> just thought about a less eye-catch nick ,)
01:38 < Mike1> hehe, why so?
01:38 < link_> maybe it looks so young ? =)
01:38 < Mike1> aren't you young?
01:39 < link_> maybe ..
01:39 * Mike1 considering to change his nick for "Miguelito" :P
01:39 < link_> in some things i am really young
01:39 < link_> in others not ,)
01:39 < Mike1> link_: eg?
01:39 < link_> miguelito is good ,)
01:39 < rxr> Mike1: ISO 1 still syncing ....
01:39 < Mike1> lol i know.
01:39 < link_> sex, girls ... not
01:40 < link_> computers. ...  not
01:40 < Mike1> rxr: okis, do let me know as soon is ready for me.
01:40 < rxr> I guess it will take another 8 hours or so untils they are online ...
01:40 < link_> thinking about sensless things ... yes
01:40 < Mike1> rxr: urrgss so i guess testing will happen tomorrow night
01:42 < rxr> after the beta5 I'll upload beta6 this weekend (I'll have a local test for it here - so I can be sure the ISO is at least mostly working before I rsync ...)
01:42 < Mike1> rxr: i will have isos for Minimal and Router on saturday, both will be based on ur final beta6 source
01:44 < rxr> Mike1: ok - nice
01:44 < Mike1> will build final beta6 for desktop tonight as well
01:45 < Mike1> since it is a dual box i might have such iso available by saturday as well
01:45 < rxr> I'll then move the diretory layout to a more structured not-drock only layout - so I can sort the minimal and generic into it
01:45 < rxr> Mike1: you do not need to build the desktop thing - only if you need one for yourself
01:46 < Mike1> rxr: i will make Minimal, Server, Router and Generic isos
01:46 < rxr> Mike1: this new server target - of rou lamp one ?
01:46 < Mike1> rxr: i build desktop to myself and to debug gnome
01:46 < Mike1> no the one you included
01:46 < rxr> Mike1: you could debug gnome in the generic one ...
01:46 < Mike1> lamp is way far away yet
01:46 < Mike1> we will make the blocks work on 2.1
01:46 < Mike1> rxr: yes i could, but for now i wanna see how stable is desktop so far
01:46 < Mike1> :)
01:47 < rxr> Mike1: we still need to discuss how to develop 2.1 and 2.0
01:47 < rxr> in Vienna in two months
01:48 < Mike1> rxr: not fair that i will not be there!
01:48 < Mike1> or maybe yes, if things with cchamilt work out, i will have money to go over
01:49 < Mike1> but thats something i don't have clear yet
01:49 < Mike1> rxr: i asume you guys can do the planning in english if i go right? /me guesses he would be the only non german speaker..
01:50 < rxr> I estimate we have some -rc1 or -rc2 for LinuxTag
01:50 < rxr> the final will be end July (hopefully)
01:51 * Mike1 crossesfingers :)
01:51 < rxr> and we have much work to do even after the final 2.0.0 ...
01:51 < rxr> we will also have SPARC support in 2.0.1 I think
01:52 < Mike1> rxr: you know i will be right next to you on the sparc port work
01:52 < rxr> and I still hope to get a ROCK Linux target build server (like a 4x AMD64) out of AMD ....
01:52 < Mike1> virtually speaking
01:52 < rxr> the U5 build is quite progressing
01:52 < rxr> currently at 5-wuftpd ....
01:53 < Mike1> you have a 4x AMD64 ?!?!
01:53 < rxr> nope
01:53 < Mike1> rxr: how many broken package so far?
01:53 < rxr> I still want to get AMD to sponsor one ...
01:53 < Mike1> rxr: i do have access to a 4x Xeon..
01:53 < rxr> U5 - less - but I just switched the monitor of ...
01:54 < Mike1> ok
01:54 < jsaw> cu y'all tomorrow
01:54 < rxr> cu jsaw
01:55 < rxr> 552 compiled fine - 38 with error
01:55 < rxr> but moslty stuff that is fixed in HEAD - or multimedia stuff with x86 ASM or other crap ...
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01:56 < Mike1> ah okis :)
01:59 < rxr> I think in some minutes I'll commit my final findutils improvement
02:00 < Mike1> good
02:00 < Mike1> rxr: did the simlink?
02:02 < rxr> jups
02:02 < Mike1> gut :)
02:02 < rxr> and cleanups - and xargs is no longer moved
02:02 < Mike1> neat :)
02:03 < rxr> I hope you also like the acpi for linux24 patch I'm just committing now ...
02:04 < rxr> Committed revision 659
02:05 < Mike1> i will check it out
02:09 * Mike1 getting something to eat brb
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02:24 < Mike1> re
02:28 < rxr> re
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02:31 < rxr> Mike1: findutils committed
02:32 < Mike1> hi link? :P
02:32 < zer0_o> oops
02:32 < zer0_o> *g*
02:32 < zer0_o> i'm playing around with wine
02:32 < zer0_o> i started mirc with it *g*
02:32 < Mike1> rxr: cool, i will svn up in a moment
02:32 < zer0_o> seems to run =D
02:32 < rxr> SMP: ping - still awake ?
02:33 < Mike1> rxr: also to see ur acpi patch
02:33 < zer0_o> n8 all =0
02:33 < zer0_o> =)
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02:52 < Mike1> daja_ :)
03:02 < rxr> hi daja_
03:02 < rxr> Mike1: so hopefully Verena will be more happy with recent ACPI ROCK LInux kernel and recent ROCK Linux XFree ;-) on her laptop
03:03 < Mike1> rxr: hehehe, now i see the hiddent reason for this improvement :)
03:03 < Mike1> -t
03:03 < Mike1> rxr: anyways my laptop and rollas will apreciate it as well :)
03:06 * Mike1 considering to set up a video streaming server to share it with some of his close friends
03:06 < tsa> pay-per-view? ;)
03:08 < Mike1> actually free, but restricted to a very limited group, this for obvious reasons :)
03:08 < rxr> Mike1: nope Verena's laptop is an "old" Celeron 633 - it runs withou ACPI - just the fan is spinning very loudly in that case
03:08 < tsa> hehe
03:09 < rxr> the ACPI stuff is more needed on newer machines which do nt have IRQ routing and other quirks when ACPI is not used
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03:09 < rxr> even most recent ALDI and LIDL discount laptops are affected ...
03:10 < Mike1> :)
03:10 < Mike1> tsa: you might get access, but lets wait till its ready :)
03:10 < tsa> Mike1: just because i'm far enough away, i guess ;)
03:12 < Mike1> do i have to answer? :)
03:12 < tsa> no ;)
03:12 < Mike1> hehe good.
03:13 * Mike1 watching Avril Lavigne perform Metallica - Fuel, video from Icon. 
03:21 < Mike1> n8 all
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03:25 < rxr> n8 Mike1
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03:46 < rxr> ok cu - n8
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04:08 < tfing> Mike1: any news for the minimal target ?
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05:00 < rolla> re
05:02 < rolla> root@woden:~# cat /etc/ROCK-VERSION
05:02 < rolla> ROCK Linux 2.0.0-beta6 (2003/06/25)
05:02 < rolla> sweet
05:02 < rolla> the new server is up
05:02 < rolla> nacht all
08:08 < blindcoder> moin
08:41 < netrunner> moin, too
09:41 < netrunner> ah good morning esden
09:41 < netrunner> se noai
09:41 < netrunner> ase ai
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10:09 < esden> good morning everyone ... *yawn*
10:13 < blindcoder> moin esden
10:15 * blindcoder thinking about "selling" "FTP-Time"
10:25 < esden> argl ... uwe wants to play magic ... 
10:25 < esden> bbl
10:34 * blindcoder is bored...
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11:05 < esden> roe
11:07 < netrunner> esden: brunftschrei der gluehwuermchen? neonROEhren :)
11:09 < esden> netrunner: you got it ;-)
11:13 * netrunner -> home
11:29 < mart193> kopete tab feature: never seen it anywhere else than in rock :)
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11:31 < freed> guten tag
11:31 < freed> rxr biste da?
11:32 < esden> kopete tab feature? o_O
11:33 < esden> freed: he disappeared at 03:46 last night ... and not reappeared till now
11:33 < mart193> yes there is a possibility to open new chat windows as tabs
11:33 < freed> thx esden
11:33 < blindcoder> re
11:33 < esden> mart193: ahh ok
11:33 < esden> re blindcoder 
11:33 < esden> freed: np
11:34 * blindcoder wants to go home *ARGH*
11:34 < esden> argl another 56 spam mails ... *yawn*
11:34 < esden> blindcoder: /me too
11:35 * blindcoder won't e home before 21:00 today >_<
11:35 < esden> I will be home at 22:00? 24:00? something around that
11:35 < blindcoder> well... but you are home NOW
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11:36 < blindcoder> while I'm not home since 04:30
11:36 < blindcoder> and I won't have any free time or "fun" until then, either
11:36 < esden> blindcoder: I am not home now ... I wait for a lecture
11:36 < blindcoder> hmm.. so what are you doing until 24:00?
11:37 < esden> I am having a lecture ... later driving to my cell ... hoping that my gf comes by ... then drive to a meeting ... and then drive home
11:38 < esden> to IN
11:38 < blindcoder> hmm... I see
11:38 < blindcoder> I'll be at work til 17:00 or later, then go to Dachau by S2, then go to Petershausen by bus and then go to Ingolstadt Hauptbahnhoff by train and then go home by bike
11:39 < esden> that sux
11:39 < blindcoder> well, noone said life is fun, did anyone?
11:39 < esden> nope
11:39 < freed> can anyone help? i added a new user with the command /usr/sbin/useradd -d /home/s710365 -p s710365 -g s710365 -G users s710365
11:40 < freed> but i cant login via ssh and local
11:40 < freed> it works via samba
11:40 * blindcoder is looking forward to sleeping through the weekend again
11:40 < blindcoder> freed: is there a shell set?
11:40 < freed> what is going wrong?
11:40 < blindcoder> in /etc/passwd?
11:40 < esden> freed: have you run passwd s710365
11:40 < blindcoder> esden: no. -p s710365
11:41 < esden> ohh
11:41 < esden> ok
11:41 * -> esden blind ... and sleepy
11:41 < freed> oh i forgot to set a loginshell
11:41 < blindcoder> esden: seee, I had about 4 hours of sleep and terrible stomach-aches
11:42 < freed>  chsh s710365
11:42 < freed> Changing the login shell for s710365
11:42 < freed> Enter the new value, or press return for the default
11:42 < freed>         Login Shell [/bin/bash]:
11:42 < freed> ssh access deny
11:43 < esden> is ssh -v saying something interesting?
11:43 < freed> let me find out
11:45 < blindcoder> hmm
11:45 < blindcoder> my pringles are empty already...
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11:57 < esden> I have no money for food
11:57 < esden> I am terribly hungry ...
11:57 < esden> and I have 3 euro cents in my pocket
11:59 < freed> i am so stupid
12:00 < freed> i forgot create a homedirectory
12:05 < blindcoder> esden: come over to Mch-H, I'll invite you :)
12:06 < esden> blindcoder: I would like to ... but I will not have enough fuel to drive to IN then ...
12:07 < blindcoder> and I thought I'd lack money
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12:08 < daja_> re
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12:09 < esden> blindcoder: that is how one can be wrong ...
12:12 < blindcoder> esden: my bank account is at -150 EUR ATM
12:16 < esden> hmm mine at 1 EUR and some cents .... but I do not want to get to red digits
12:16 < esden> I will get money tomorrow probably ... so it is not such a mess
12:16 < blindcoder> it's not like I wanted to >_<
12:17 < blindcoder> but the first payment for my vacation had to be paid
12:17 < blindcoder> 217 EUR
12:17 < esden> ohh ... ok
12:36 < netrunner> so, back to uni :/
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12:47 < daja77> moin all
12:49 < blindcoder> hi daja77
12:51 < daja77> hi blindcoder
12:51 * daja77 off to work now cu later
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13:14 < martinTFH> hi all
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13:42 < cchamilt> Hello
13:42 < blindcoder> moin cchamilt
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13:51 < jsaw> re
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14:41 < rolla> re
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14:59 < daja77> hi
14:59 < daja77> is there a cdrecord package in rock?
15:00 < daja77> hi rolla
15:00 < blindcoder> cdrtools
15:01 < daja77> ic then it is borken in my build ...
15:02 < jsaw> hi daja77
15:03 < jsaw> daja77: what is not recognized by rockplug on ur system?
15:05 < daja77> the scanner, the soundcard, short everything that is recognized by hwscan
15:05 < jsaw> ? so, nothing is recognized?
15:05 < daja77> no
15:10 < daja77> wtf is libsgc
15:12 < rolla> daja77:
15:12 < rolla> My new server is up
15:12 < rolla> and boy is it fast
15:13 < daja77> my server is quite cool either with the new flat panel ;-)
15:13 < rxr> re
15:13 < daja77> hi rxr
15:13 < rolla> daja77: mine has no real monitor on it
15:13 < rxr> Mike1: are you arround ?
15:13 < rolla> everything looks good in a ssh window
15:13 < jsaw> hi rxr
15:13 < rolla> rxr: I don't think he is here yet
15:14 < rxr> hi all
15:14 < daja77> rolla: mine is server + workstation
15:16 < rxr> for those who have time to test a new dRock CD:
15:16 < rxr> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/ftp/
15:16 < rxr> -beta5
15:16 < rxr> it boots - but I had not the time to test more
15:16 < blindcoder> rxr: the generic-beta6 is currently at koffice
15:17 < rxr> I'm currently syncing the beta6 - but the beta6 is completey untested
15:17 < rxr> so I need some results before I move them to the official location
15:17 < rxr> since I'm at work - cu later
15:18 < rolla> daja77: nod
15:19 * jsaw want daja77's mobo,cpu and gfx
15:19 < daja77> :I have beta6 isos (damn not here at work >_<
15:20 < rolla> daja77: I have beta6 installed on this athlon :)
15:20 < daja77> jsaw: hehe :)
15:21 < daja77> jsaw: I build rock on this machine ...
15:22 < rolla> sweet
15:22 < rolla> I am building rock on my new box today so i can load it on it later
15:22 < daja77> I guess he wouldn't want the tft as well if he'd know about
15:22 < daja77> would even
15:25 < jsaw> daja77: I know you have a new tft.
15:25 < daja77> d'oh
15:26 < jsaw> daja77: the only thing I want is a working board+cpu+gfx card
15:26 < daja77> the board is quite cool maybe you should buy this
15:26 < jsaw> (I mean 100% working, not 90%, like mine)
15:27 < rolla> jsaw what do you have?
15:27 < daja77> wtf I didn't find cdrtools in rock-trunk, am I blind
15:27 < jsaw> rolla: heat problems...
15:27 < jsaw> rolla: wait... checking...
15:27 < rolla> ouch get more fans
15:28 < Mike1> rxr: i'm here now
15:28 < Mike1> re all
15:29 < daja77> ok found it
15:29 < daja77> hi Mike1
15:29 < Mike1> hi daja77
15:29 < daja77> anybody with a working cdrtools gem here?
15:30 < jsaw> rolla: asus a7v, 1GHz athlon-tbird.
15:30 * daja77 has an epox 8k9a or so
15:30 < jsaw> rolla: fans? I don't have money currently to even replace these fscking loud original fans...
15:31 < rolla> suck
15:33 * daja77 dancing around
15:34 < Mike1> ok thats scary :)
15:34 < tfing> yop
15:35 < tfing> Mike1: you don't have a minimal target iso available by any chance ?
15:35 < Mike1> tfing: yes i do
15:35 < Mike1> tfing: got 3 broken packages during install though
15:35 < Mike1> tfing: want it?
15:35 < tfing> which one ?
15:36 < Mike1> linux25, linux25-src and module-init-tools
15:36 < tfing> useless stuff :)
15:36 < Mike1> of course :)
15:36 < Mike1> new iso will be available by the end of the day i hope
15:37 < Mike1> but i think you will find your self confortable with that iso
15:37 < tfing> as long as it as linux24 and openssh, that's fine
15:37 < tfing> where can i get it ?
15:38 < Mike1> read query :)
15:39 < tfing> ;)
15:40 < Mike1> tfing: enjoy
15:43 * daja77 beats the xcdroast maintainer
15:44 * jsaw prefers gcombust
15:44 < tfing> hmm ?
15:44 * tfing hides
15:44 < daja77> tfing: your package? *ggg*
15:44 < tfing> what's the pb with it ?
15:45 < daja77> it looks for cdrecord, mkisofs stuff in /usr/sbin but they are all in /usr/bin, had to set some symlinks manually to get it working :(
15:45 < tfing> when did you build it last time ?
15:46 < tfing> it should be ok with a fresh install of cdrecord and xcdroast
15:46 < daja77> last week
15:46 < tfing> cdrecord too ?
15:46 < tfing> cdrtools i mean
15:46 < daja77> cdrecord is newer cos it broke in that very build
15:47 < tfing> cdrtools put its bin in /usr/bin for me
15:47 < Mike1> daja77: why would you need a gui tool for burning cds ??
15:47 < daja77> aha well packages from different builds considered harmful
15:48 < daja77> Mike1: hey I never said I need it
15:48 < daja77> a luser showed up today claiming that he is unable to burn cds cos no gui tool was installed
15:49 < Mike1> daja77: ok lets say i believe ur "luser" story :P
15:49 < Mike1> ping rxr
15:49 * daja77 kicks Mike1 
15:49 < Mike1> Oh yeah!!! do it again do it again!!!!!!
15:49 * daja77 kicks Mike1 again and again and again ...
15:50 < Mike1> beat the hell out me!
15:50 < Mike1> kill me please!!!!!! kill me
15:50 < daja77> haha I don't have that much power
15:50 < Mike1> :(
15:50 < tfing> :: /usr/sbin/mine -l cdrtools-2.00.3.gem
15:50 < tfing> cdrtools: usr/bin/cdda2wav
15:50 < tfing> cdrtools: usr/bin/cdrecord
15:51 < tfing> i deny responsibility :)
15:51 < daja77> tfing: yeah they are there but xcdroast thiks they are in /usr/sbin and doesn't find them :(
15:51 < tfing> hmm, rebuild it
15:51 < daja77> thinks even
15:51 < daja77> :P
15:52 < tfing> i become the maintainer a week ago
15:52 < tfing> became
15:52 < daja77> ic so this is fixed now?
15:52 < tfing> there was a patch to make it look for cdrecord in /usr/sbin
15:52 < Mike1> tfing: so one week and you have not yet fixed it?!?! ;-)
15:53 < tfing> it shouldn't be there anymore
15:53 * Mike1 making pression
15:53 * tfing kicks Mike1 twice
15:53 < Mike1> COOL! thank you so muhc!
15:53 < daja77> hehe it's Mikey kick hour
15:53 < Mike1> much even
15:53 < Mike1> bring it on!
15:55 < Ge0rG> hmm... there's a bus shuttle to karlsruhe, going from berlin through leipzig and nuernberg
15:56 < daja77> Ge0rG: yepp organized by Sven Guckes
15:56 < Ge0rG> daja77: why didn't you tell anything? ;)
15:56 < daja77> cos I haven't met you here yesterday
15:57 < Ge0rG> ah, ok :)
15:58 < Ge0rG> is there a website or something with details?
16:00 < daja77> http://travel.to/linuxtag
16:00 < Ge0rG> thanks :)
16:02 < Ge0rG> hm... its impossible for me to be in leipzig at 13:00 :(
16:03 < Mike1> -= Nothing is impossible =-
16:03 < daja77> Ge0rG: I can take you to Linuxtag, now definitely
16:03 < Ge0rG> daja77: when are you starting?
16:03 < Ge0rG> Mike1: thats right. but I have an exam in magdeburg at 12:00
16:04 < daja77> Ge0rG: wednesday morning
16:04 < Mike1> urrggs, guess you have to be _fast_ :)
16:04 < daja77> *gna* how it is possible to get an undefined refernce to errno?
16:05 < Ge0rG> daja77: #include <errno.h>?
16:05 < daja77> it is in
16:05 < Ge0rG> oh, then its b0rked
16:05 < daja77> ypbind-3.3, ...
16:07 < daja77> idiot coders, only including errno.h when #ifdef blah, but using errno without such a check
16:08 < Ge0rG> mhm... when I start 13:20 at md hbf, I'll be 14:56 in leipzig and 16:40 in chemnitz :/
16:08 < jsaw> daja77: errno was changed in glibc some time ago
16:11 < daja77> Ge0rG: wednesday?
16:12 < daja77> jsaw: I only removed the #ifdef fluff and it works
16:12 < Ge0rG> daja77: yep
16:13 < daja77> Ge0rG: this is quite late, I wanted to be in Karlsruhe at 15:00
16:13 < daja77> I mean it is still 500km to Ka ...
16:13 < Ge0rG> hm.. I fear I can't even change the exam time anymore :/
16:14 * daja77 'll provide a patch so that ypbind package will compile
16:14 < rolla> slow svn
16:15 < jsaw> daja77: yes, that's the usual way to fix it (until these guys wake up and update to a newer glibc version *grrrr*)
16:16 < daja77> jsaw: I really don't think that this is related to glibc changes
16:17 < blindcoder> daja77: but it is.
16:17 < daja77> blindcoder: explain
16:18 < blindcoder> daja77: they changed the behaviour of errno to not be "default on" but you have to include errno.h as specified by standards
16:19 < jsaw> errno was changed to use the __thread prefix now and not a variable that has be looked up via pthread_key (or sth like that).
16:19 < daja77> ah so their borken code wasn't a problem before, ic
16:19 < jsaw> there is now a thread segment support in the kernel...
16:19 < jsaw> daja77: right.
16:19 < daja77> :)
16:21 < daja77> *gna* this stupid client can't talk to the older server
16:21 * daja77 screams a bit
16:22 < Mike1> you scream like a girl.
16:22 < Mike1> :P
16:22 < daja77> I don't get it, it scans for the domain in the conf file doesn't find it and then starts to scan the dns domain, wtf
16:25 < daja77> rolla: what means: to go clear?
16:26 < rolla> daja77: ?
16:26 < rolla> where are you seeing that?
16:28 < daja77> http://216.239.37.100/search?q=cache:HKp9CtLXOdIJ:www.yimpan.com/Songsite/Lyric/index.asp%3Fsid%3D1464+leonard+cohen+go+clear&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
16:29 < rolla> my company firewall blocks that site
16:29 < daja77> it blocks google??!
16:29 < Ge0rG> daja77: I'll try to move the exam to another day, but I'm not sure if it is allowed. Would you wait for me when not?
16:29 < rolla> nope
16:30 < rolla> but that IP seems to be blocked
16:30 < daja77> hmm
16:31 < rolla> what is this a song lyrix?
16:31 < daja77> ok then without highlighting
16:31 < daja77> http://www.yimpan.com/Songsite/Lyric/index.asp?sid=1464
16:31 * Mike1 falling asleep
16:31 < Mike1> damn!
16:31 < daja77> Mike1: need more kicks?
16:31 < Mike1> yes
16:32 * daja77 trying to get owl to kick you
16:33 < rolla> daja77: like most songs it seems to mean nothing
16:33 < rolla> stupied song writers
16:34 < daja77> are you sure?
16:34 < daja77> my head ached trying to find it out
16:36 * daja77 notes not to write ongs
16:36 < daja77> songs
16:36 < rolla> daja77: crazy writers
16:36 < rolla> you never know what they are talking about
16:37 < daja77> this sucks
16:37 < daja77> but hey be glad that they don't write programs
16:40 < blindcoder> fuck
16:41 < Mike1> blindcoder: pardon?
16:41 < daja77> blindcoder: ?!
16:41 < blindcoder> Mike1: in twenty minuties I can go home... but it's raining quite hard here
16:41 < Mike1> bwahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
16:41 < daja77> *lol*
16:41 < blindcoder> grmpf
16:42 * Mike1 pets blindcoder
16:42 < daja77> we have sunshine her ...
16:42 < daja77> here
16:42 * blindcoder bites Mike1 
16:42 < Mike1> ouch!
16:42 < blindcoder> *grrr*
16:42 * Mike1 wishes to have his quickcam here to show blindcoder how beautifull the day is here
16:43 < blindcoder> it doesn't help me to know that you have fine weather
16:43 < Mike1> not a sinle cloud..
16:43 < Mike1> blindcoder: but it help us :)
16:43 < blindcoder> *sigh*
16:43 < Mike1> to tease you ...
16:43 < Mike1> :PP
16:43 < Mike1> how are you blindy?
16:43 < blindcoder> the same I am since monday
16:44 < Mike1> and that is..
16:44 < Mike1> ?
16:44 < blindcoder> I'm still looking for a tall enough skyscraper
16:45 < blindcoder> frustrated, down and eating all day long
16:45 * daja77 looking for something to shoot ypbind devs
16:45 * blindcoder looking for something to shoot me
16:46 < blindcoder> oh... it just stopped raining...
16:46 < daja77> blindcoder: why
16:46 < blindcoder> because life sucks. plain and simple.
16:47 < Mike1> blindcoder: no it doesnt.
16:47 < blindcoder> Mike1: wtf makes you think it doesn't?
16:48 < blindcoder> just because you're alright doesn't mean my life is as wonderful, too.
16:48 < Mike1> i wish i had a wonderfull life... but i would lie if i said so..
16:48 < daja77> blindcoder feels owlish today ...
16:50 * Mike1 doesn't like to see blindy like that.
17:05 < jsaw> cu tonight
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17:20 < daja77> yeah rtrock now works as NIS client, need to write a startup script soon
17:21 < daja77> rxr: PING
17:23 < rxr> pong
17:23 < daja77> rxr: can't reach your server on port 81 from here
17:23 < rxr> daja77: erhh
17:23 < rxr> the schillernet.dyndns.org one ?
17:24 < daja77> yepp
17:24 < rxr> mom
17:27 < rxr> daja77: seems to be running fine - maybe problem at your work
17:27 < daja77> *grml*
17:28 < rxr> see query ..
17:28 * Mike1 has no problems with svn ..
17:34 < fontenot> anyone working on ARM ?
17:34 < daja77> Ge0rG: can't say atm, please move it
17:34 < Ge0rG> daja77: I'll try as hard as I can
17:35 < daja77> okis
17:35 < daja77> if we start 16.30 we'll be there late night ...
17:36 * daja77 happy that the rtrock box is now integrated in the work environment here
17:37 < rxr> ok - me away again
17:37 < daja77> cu rxr
17:37 < daja77> and thx again
17:38 < rxr> if there is important stuff when I'm at work - you can reach me at the @pace.de email address ...
17:38 < rxr> cu
17:38 < daja77> okis
17:40 < daja77> brb
17:45 < fontenot> maybe I should check mailing list about ppl working on ARM ?
17:48 < rolla> fontenot: I am not sure if anyone is working on ARM
17:51 < fontenot> OK I didnt want to duplicate work
17:51 < rolla> :)
17:52 < daja77> I haven't seen arm port in rock yet
17:52 < daja77> ls architecture should tell you more :)
17:52 < fontenot> thanks
17:53 < fontenot> yeah no arm there
17:55 < daja77> :)
17:56 < fontenot> i would really like to cross-compile it
17:58 < daja77> fontenot: that would be great
17:59 < fontenot> yeah, my PC is a lot faster than my ipaq
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18:00 < daja77> wb jsaw
18:00 < jsaw> hi daja77
18:01 * jsaw listening channel while playing with my daughter
18:02 < rolla> jsaw: how old is your daughter?
18:02 < Mike1> greetings to jsaw + daughter :)
18:03 < Mike1> rolla: thinking on Alex future already?
18:03 * daja77 waves to jsaw's daughter
18:03 < rolla> I have a 10 month old son who sometime watchs this channel too ;)
18:03 < jsaw> 17 months
18:03 < daja77> you mean you let him read my output?
18:03 < rolla> cool
18:03 < rolla> if he could read ;)
18:03 < jsaw> incredible age
18:04 < daja77> hehe glad boy that he can't
18:04 < rolla> :)
18:05 * daja77 dumbass *aaargl*
18:06 < jsaw> during holidays, Marlene climed up a ladder 6 steps (we didn't notice). Man, my heart was beating...
18:10 < rolla> :)
18:17 < cchamilt> HI all, That is why I am special...
18:17 < rolla> re cchamilt
18:17 < cchamilt> I had a cupboard fall on me when I was that age.
18:17 < daja77> *lol*
18:18 < cchamilt> Now I have super powers!
18:18 < cchamilt> frooooommmmm!
18:19 < cchamilt> Seriously, gotta watch that.  I think I hurt brain back then.
18:19 < cchamilt> Anyway, it gives me an excuse for erradic bouts of smartness.
18:19 < cchamilt> or dumbness.
18:20 * daja77 notes some strangeness in cchamilt 
18:20 < cchamilt> I haven't got enough sleep in days so I am getting giddy.
18:20 < cchamilt> Of course my rescue pack from thinkgeek came too. Mints!
18:21 < rolla> cool
18:21 < cchamilt> Wife wont play with my nerf guns yet.
18:21 < cchamilt> I can tell she wants to, but her coolness is preventing her.
18:22 < cchamilt> Oh well, I just shoot her enough...
18:22 < cchamilt> Things suck for accuracy.
18:23 < daja77> poor wife
18:23 < cchamilt> Ah Jocelyn is cool.
18:23 < daja77> hehe didn't know Jocelyn is your wife
18:23 < cchamilt> yeah.
18:24 < daja77> :)
18:24 < cchamilt> She is snoring right now.
18:24 < daja77> what time is it in sg now?
18:24 < cchamilt> 12:24 by ntp
18:25 < rolla> wow that is late :)
18:25 < daja77> hehe /me went to bed at 4am this week
18:25 < cchamilt> I should get to bed. But I am hyped on mints for now.
18:26 < cchamilt> Try 3pm today.
18:26 < daja77> evening comes here too
18:26 < rolla> still nice and sunny here
18:26 < jsaw> cchamilt: ;-) (super powers)
18:26 < daja77> it is sunny here too, sunny evening :)
18:26 < cchamilt> I can't remember if I slept yesterday, but I think I got up at 9am.
18:27 < daja77> hehe
18:27 < rolla> ha ha 11:26 here
18:27 < cchamilt> Actually, it is nice here just when it is about to rain.
18:27 < daja77> so half an our 'til big lunch I guess
18:27 < rolla> cool I like rain
18:27 < cchamilt> Been rainy today.  Started just as I left a client today.
18:27 < rolla> daja77: half hour till I get to go fix my athlon at home
18:28 < daja77> <adams>which type of rain</adams>
18:28 < daja77> rolla: :)
18:28 < cchamilt> rolla: you are wanting to help us right?
18:29 < rolla> ja
18:30 < daja77> less than half an hour for me to go home
18:31 < rolla> lucky you
18:38 < daja77> ok send patch for ypbind to the list, off now
18:38 < daja77> cu
18:39 < cchamilt> bye
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18:59 < SmileyGuy> lol
18:59 < SmileyGuy> Rocklinux hee
19:04 < esden> o_O
19:04 < esden> what is so funny?
19:06 < SmileyGuy> Nothing
19:06 < SmileyGuy> Nice face :P
19:19 < SmileyGuy> Anyone here?
19:20 < esden> yes ...
19:21 < Mike1> yes ...
19:25 < Mike1> Received a CTCP VERSION from SmileyGuy  <--- Is there anything i can do for you SmileyGuy ?
19:25 < SmileyGuy> Mike1 Msg Me
19:27 < esden> Mike1: not only you ...
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19:43 < tcr> moin all
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19:46 < esden> hi tcr 
19:46 < tcr> moin esden. It's weekend, woohoo!
19:48 < rxr> re
19:48 < esden> tcr: not really for me ... I have to learn for exams >_<
19:48 < tcr> esden: me too, but not today!
19:49 < Mike1> welcome back rxr
19:49 < tcr> There's a new version of lsof released today
19:49 < tcr> (just noticed)
19:51 < daja77> re
20:08 * tcr preparing evening meal
20:09 < daja77> you are coking?
20:09 < daja77> cooking
20:18 < Mike1> tcr: get me something too :)
20:24 < tcr> No, just ate toast
20:25 < tcr> and watching enterprise now
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20:46 < mnemoc> re
20:47 < tcr> hi mnemoc
20:48 < mnemoc> hi tcr... how is ur AT pacient?
20:52 < tcr> Couldn't yet care about it again. Have been busy with school stuff and the like
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20:54 < rolla> grrr
20:54 < blindcoder> tadaima
20:56 < rxr> re
20:56 < rolla> my athlon frezze's up during download of rck sources
20:57 < rolla> rxr have you ever heard of a box just locking up while using curl?
20:57 < tcr> rolla: What athlon?
20:57 < jsaw> yes
20:57 < rolla> 2500+
20:57 < rolla> xp
20:57 < rxr> rolla: this is not curl related - but I know about broken systems freezing up from time to time ...
20:57 < jsaw> here, it's my nvidia driver.
20:57 < rolla> rxr what do you mean by breaking?
20:58 < tcr> rolla: What do logs say?
20:58 < rolla> this only happens when running download
20:58 < rolla> tcr there are no logs
20:58 < rxr> try conservative memory setting, better cooling,
20:58 < rxr> and run memtest86 for some hours , ...
20:58 < rxr> the usual "my box is freezing" stuff ...
20:58 < rolla> it just locks up doing download
20:58 < rolla> conservative memory settings
20:58 < rolla> what do you mean by this?
20:58 < rxr> rolla: a real OS kernel is not allowed to lock up <dot>
20:59 < tcr> rolla: Does the kernel still react? (I mean via the ctrl+sysrq combination)
20:59 < rxr> or network
20:59 < rolla> tcr none
20:59 < tcr> rolla: tried?
20:59 < rolla> nothing works
20:59 < rxr> rolla: see your bios for memory settings
20:59 < rolla> I have it set for 166Mhz
20:59 < rolla> just what it tells me to do
21:00 < rolla> why would this only happen while running download?
21:01 < rolla> I can compile the kernel no problems
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21:01 < rxr> rolla: maybe gunzip bzip stress the memory subsystem and the CPU a lot ...
21:01 < rxr> maybe the disk io ...
21:01 < rolla> and this is a brand new install
21:01 < rxr> rolla: yes - especially because it is a new box
21:01 < rolla> okay
21:01 < rxr> make sure you system runs stable under high load - use memtest86 and cpuburn for this
21:02 < rxr> take a look a frequency / memory timing / voltage / other performance setting in the BIOS and rethink about each if it is set correctly ...
21:02 * rxr away - cu later
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21:08 < tcr> re
21:08 < mnemoc> it's cool to hear how rock/download moves to an old 1GB hd :)
21:09 < rolla> tcr do you know cpuburn at all?
21:10 < tcr> rolla: Just of hearsay
21:10 < netrunner> mnemoc: download fits on 1GB? mine needs 3,3GB maybe I should finally clean it up :)
21:11 < rolla> dang
21:13 < mnemoc> netrunner: i don't need/use x11 at all
21:13 < mnemoc> i mean... no x11/kde/gnome
21:13 * tcr wonders what's the right preposition. 'Of' looks wrong to me (afterwards...), but I'm not sure if it's 'from' or 'by'
21:14 < tcr> Just from hearsay, sounds good
21:14 < rolla> tcr I am running it and my box has no problems
21:14 < rolla> but I start the rock download my systems goes by by
21:15 < tcr> rolla: And you have really tested the ctrl+sysrq combination?
21:15 < tcr> besides I wonder why you don't get any kernel message/panic in /var/log/messages
21:15 < daja77> re
21:16 < mnemoc> hi kids eater
21:16 < tcr> Haha fuckin'! Muhha bash segfaultet while building ROCK
21:16 < daja77> ahem hi mnemoc
21:16 < mnemoc> :)
21:16 < rxr> tcr: this normally does not happen - because when a kernel dead-lock there is no way to do soem log
21:16 * daja77 is always remembered in the worst way ...
21:17 < rolla> tcr there is no log at all
21:17 < rxr> even panics normally do not make it into the syslog - because they are in interrupt handlers, or the rest of the kernel is already highly corrupted ...
21:17 < tcr> rxr: Yups..
21:17 < daja77> ah rxr
21:17 < daja77> rxr: there is a mistake in my patch :(
21:18 < rxr> daja77: post it in a querry - I'm off again ... :-(
21:19 < tcr> Tss. Why the hell am I the only one getting face to really nasty bugs
21:19 < mnemoc> anybody wants to patch 'df' to support devfs schema in one single line? :)
21:19 < rolla> only you?
21:19 < mnemoc> :(
21:20 < rolla> mine is kicking me in the ass
21:20 < tcr> rolla: I don't know what's wrong with your machine. You should get all proprietary things out of your kernel, and if it happens again, then write to lkml
21:20 < rolla> tcr sure
21:21 < tcr> rolla: fortune plot against us
21:21 < daja77> hmm strange someone beside me kicking rolla's ass
21:21 < rolla> ha ha ha
21:22 < daja77> :)
21:22 < tcr> Oh it isn't bash what segfaulted, but ls and grep
21:22 < tcr> Bah. Will dig into that later, going to a friend now. Cu
21:26 < Mike1> yawn
21:27 < daja77> lazy Mike1 is back
21:27 < Mike1> :)
21:28 < rolla> Mike1: I hate my new machine
21:28 < Mike1> rolla: why? whats wrong with it?
21:28 < daja77> rolla: :(
21:28 * Mike1 remebers the times when he first meet daja77 :)
21:29 < rolla> Mike1: it locks up with download
21:29 < Mike1> daja77: you remember ur flying motherboard?
21:29 < Mike1> rolla: 0_o
21:29 < Mike1> rolla: how do you know its a hardware problem?
21:29 < rolla> only guess
21:29 < Mike1> guess is not enough.
21:30 < Mike1> have you run memtest and so alrady?
21:30 < Mike1> already*
21:30 < daja77> Mike1: nah I forgot it completely :))
21:31 < Mike1> daja77: shame on you, i though you were happy back then
21:31 < daja77> I was just kidding, how whould I ever forget that ...
21:33 < rolla> flying mobo
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21:44 * rolla thinks about making his mobo fly
21:46 < daja77> hehe
21:47 < rolla> spurious 8259A interrupt
21:48 < rolla> cramfs: wrong magic
21:48 * daja77 now updating his favourite box
21:48 < mnemoc> o_O
21:49 < daja77> beta4 -> beta6
21:49 * n00kie still waiting for final
21:49 * n00kie restart x
21:49 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M296P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("leaving")
21:49 < daja77> only a mine -i *gem ;-)
21:50 < Mike1> hi mnemoc
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21:55 < mnemoc> hi Mike1
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21:56 < mnemoc> beep
21:56 < netrunner> re ... /me trying different colored irc clients
21:56 < mnemoc> mmm
21:57 < mnemoc> Mike1: can you /msg me to see if this s.th beeps?
21:58 < Mike1> mnemoc: How do you like the colors ?
21:58 < Mike1> i mean netrunner :)
21:58 < mnemoc> beep :)
21:58 < Mike1> :)
21:58 < mnemoc> i like the beeps
21:59 < mnemoc> mmm... too many beeps :(
21:59 < mnemoc> STOP BEEPING ME
22:00 < Mike1> Good to know
22:00 < netrunner> Mike1: oh ... besides my name is written white on white :)
22:00 < netrunner> mnemoc: *beep* :)
22:01 < Mike1> mnemoc: who is beeping you ?
22:01 < mnemoc> you :(
22:02 < mnemoc> the same nice guy that offered my a shell ;)
22:02 < netrunner> hmm ... if there was a package update ... and now a patch fails ... shouldn't I remove the patch?
22:02 < mnemoc> NO
22:02 * Mike1 looks at mnemoc with an inocent luck, i am not beeping you 
22:02 < mnemoc> netrunner: you have to adapt the patch
22:03 < mnemoc> only remove it if the 'author' included it
22:04 < netrunner> mnemoc: smartmontools noinst-conf.patch fails.
22:04 < mnemoc> :o
22:05 < mnemoc> Mike1: you update it, you patch it!!! :D
22:05 < mnemoc> please ;)
22:05 < mnemoc> i'm reinstalling
22:06 * netrunner tryes to investigate ... may take some time :)
22:07 < Mike1> mnemoc: ok i will fix it.
22:07 < Mike1> if rxr hasn't
22:09 -!- rock_linuxer [rock_linux@ebpc2.bu.edu] has joined #rocklinux
22:09 < rock_linuxer> hello folks
22:10 < n00kie> Hola rock_linuxer :)
22:10 < Mike1> hi rock_linuxer, very nice nick
22:10 < rock_linuxer> hola nookie
22:10 < rock_linuxer> :) thank you
22:10 < rock_linuxer> i was hoping that i you would nice enough to help me out
22:10 < Mike1> sure how can i help you ?
22:10 < rock_linuxer> i was running some benchmarks on a rock linux cluster
22:10 < rock_linuxer> and it crashed
22:10 < rock_linuxer> we do have a recover cd
22:11 < rock_linuxer> and software raid 0 setup
22:11 < rock_linuxer> the guy who set it up
22:11 < rock_linuxer> is not around
22:11 < rock_linuxer> so big time problem
22:11 < rock_linuxer> what i have done is
22:11 < Mike1> no really a big problem :)
22:11 < Mike1> but you will have to be my eyes
22:11 < rock_linuxer> booted off the resuce disk
22:11 < rock_linuxer> sure
22:12 < Mike1> what rock linux version is it?
22:12 < rock_linuxer> and mounted the partition on which the it was installed
22:12 < rock_linuxer> i don't know it runs redhat 7.3
22:12 < rock_linuxer> :D
22:12 < rock_linuxer> sorry for being so vague
22:12 < rock_linuxer> i am don't have much of a clue with clusters
22:14 < rock_linuxer> found it
22:14 < rock_linuxer> it is runinng rock linux 2.3
22:14 < Mike1> wow 2.3
22:14 < netrunner> Mike1: I guess I have a patch now. I am testing it in my build and send it to ml when successful.
22:14 < n00kie> Hmm
22:14 < n00kie> ROCK Linux 2.3 ?
22:14 < rock_linuxer> yes
22:15 < n00kie> Really?
22:15 < rock_linuxer> that's what my proff tells me
22:15 < Mike1> rock_linuxer: cool
22:15 < mnemoc> rock_linuxer: we are in 2.0-beta6
22:15 < n00kie> o.0
22:15 < netrunner> n00kie: he comes from the future!
22:15 < Mike1> rock_linuxer: is it rock or is it redhat?
22:15 < Mike1> netrunner: nice work, cc to me.
22:15 < n00kie> netrunner: I guess so
22:15 < netrunner> rock_linuxer: how are my stocks tomorrow? :)
22:16 < daja77> netrunner: sell, sell!
22:16 < rock_linuxer> http://www.rocksclusters.org/Rocks/
22:17 < n00kie> Thats "Rocks Linux"
22:17 < Mike1> rock_linuxer: hehe Rock Lcuster =! ROCK Linux
22:17 < rock_linuxer> oh
22:17 < rock_linuxer> forgive me i am newbie
22:17 < Mike1> rock_linuxer: hehe there is no problem
22:17 < rock_linuxer> so you can expect me to be pretty dumb at times
22:18 < Mike1> i asume you are runnign redhat 7.3 on it, and the cluster app is Rocks 2.3
22:18 < rock_linuxer> yes
22:18 < rock_linuxer> i have mounted the crashed partition
22:18 < rock_linuxer> and chroot doesn't work
22:18 < rock_linuxer> it says unable to find /bin/bash
22:19 < rock_linuxer> i have copied /bin /dev/ to the crashed partition
22:19 < rock_linuxer> because these directories where missing
22:19 < rock_linuxer> so was etc
22:19 < rock_linuxer> the guy so set it up says that there are files in the raid partition
22:19 < rock_linuxer> installation files
22:20 < rock_linuxer> and i don't know how to mount the raid partition
22:20 < rock_linuxer> it is software raid 0
22:20 < Mike1> did ur rescue disc recognized ur raid?
22:20 < rock_linuxer> fdisk -l
22:21 < rock_linuxer> showed that hde1 and hdg1 were raid and it showed autodetected
22:21 < Mike1> does ur system run devfs btw?
22:21 < rock_linuxer> that i do not know
22:21 < rock_linuxer> so i copied it from the /dev/ in the rescue cd
22:21 < Mike1> dev should be something like: /dev/rd/0 or similar
22:21 < rock_linuxer> well /crashed-disk/etc/raidtab shows
22:22 < rock_linuxer> that it is /dev/md0
22:22 < Mike1> no don't copy stuff from the cd ..
22:22 < Mike1> keep in mind that you system might have several partition..
22:23 < Mike1> +s
22:23 < Mike1> so maybe you mounted the wrong one
22:23 < rock_linuxer> ok then i will rm -rf /<crashed_disk_mnt_point>/bin etc and dev
22:23 < Mike1> have a look at /crashed-disk/etc/fstab
22:23 < rock_linuxer> to come back to where it was
22:23 < Mike1> no don't do that
22:23 < rock_linuxer> yes
22:23 < rock_linuxer> ok
22:23 < rock_linuxer> will not
22:23 < Mike1> there where copies ?
22:24 < Mike1> they did exist there when you first booted? if so yes you can remove them
22:24 < Mike1> rock_linuxer: can you tell me what do you see when you ls /<crashed_disk_mnt_point>/
22:24 < rock_linuxer> no when i mounted the crashed disk there was no bin etc dev
22:24 < rock_linuxer> so i copied these dirs.
22:24 < Mike1> ok you can safely remove those 3 dirs then
22:24 < rock_linuxer> ok will do
22:25 < Mike1>  /query me
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22:29 < mnemoc> any idea to 'resume' an mv?
22:30 < daja77> mv again
22:30 < daja77> vice versa of course
22:30 < mnemoc> but i have ./dir in both sides
22:32 < mnemoc> in mv -f doesn't 'overwrite' directories :(
22:34 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux
22:38 < daja77> hey Aitor
22:39 < A-Tui> hola daja77 :)
22:40 < n00kie> Heya A-Tui :)
22:40 < A-Tui> hola n00kie
22:41 < A-Tui> how is the night?
22:41 < daja77> ok, /me falling asleep
22:41 < Mike1> daja77: again!?!
22:41 < Mike1> daja77: you slept last n8
22:41 < n00kie> GET SOME COFFEE AND CODE!
22:41 < daja77> but I just don't wanna leave this transperant chat window on his new tft
22:42 < daja77> Mike1: yeah I know
22:42 < daja77> aha n00kie speaking with Mike's words
22:42 < mnemoc> cwc.org 'coffee, wlan and code sect'
22:42 < Mike1> n00kie: those words are mine
22:42 < n00kie> You gave them to me
22:43 < Mike1> n00kie: not gave, but yes you are allowed to quote me :)
22:43 < n00kie> hehe :)
22:43 < mnemoc> Mike1: you TEACH them to us
22:43 < tfing> just add a " Mike1" at the end
22:43 < n00kie> Now I ever will paste "<Mike1> GET SOME COFFEE AND CODE"
22:43 < A-Tui> :)
22:43 < mnemoc> /alias
22:44 < Mike1> hehe
22:44 < Mike1> wow everyone talking about me
22:44 < Mike1> so scary
22:44 * daja77 waiting for his box to finish update
22:44 < daja77> talking about Mike1 is fun
22:45 < mnemoc> find . -type d -exec mkdir -p /mnt/backup/{} \;
22:45 < mnemoc> find . -type f -exec mv {} /mnt/backup/{} \;
22:45 < mnemoc> a way to 'resume' a mv :(
22:46 < mnemoc> i need mv -R
22:47 * Mike1 +R's mnemoc
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22:47 < mnemoc> :(
22:48 < mnemoc> this s.th is slow as hell
22:52 * daja77 gives some cookies to mnemoc 
22:55 < mnemoc> thanks!!
22:55 * Mike1 gives jolt to mnemoc and daja77
22:55 < daja77> *damn*
22:56 < daja77> my partitioning scheme is crap
22:56 < daja77> thx Mike1
22:56 * tfing is installing Mike1's minimal iso with bochs
22:57 < Mike1> bochs?
22:57 < daja77> brb, rebooting
22:57 < tfing> Mike1: x86 emulator
22:57 < Mike1> tfing: ah :)
23:08 * daja77 off to bed now
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23:09 < tfing> Mike1: it crashes with 2nd_stage_small.tar.gz
23:10 < Mike1> don't use small please
23:10 < tfing> Can't start /linuxrc!! Life sucks.
23:10 < tfing> yeah, i see that ;)
23:10 < Mike1> what?! this can't be possible
23:10 < Mike1> use the normal 2nd stage please
23:10 < daja77> tfing: known issue, esden wanted to work on that
23:10 < tfing> that's what i am trying to do now
23:11 < tfing> but it's so slooow
23:11 < Mike1> tfing: good
23:11 < Mike1> why?
23:11 < tfing> the emulation process i suppose
23:11 < Mike1> mm..
23:12 < tfing> it takes ages to extract the 16meg of 2nd_stage.tar.gz to ram
23:12 < Mike1> mm..
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23:13 < tcr> re all
23:15 < tfing> extracting done, i hope i won't have to do it again
23:15 < Mike1> tfing: :)
23:15 < Mike1> remember what i said of linux25* and module-init-tools
23:15 < tfing> yep
23:16 < Mike1> good :)
23:16 < Mike1> a new iso is almost ready with that "bug" and others fixed
23:16 < tcr> Ah, harald time!
23:17 < tfing> sh: stone: command not found <- that's bad
23:17 < Mike1> mm..
23:17 < Robin_Root> gn8
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23:18 < tfing> same with mine
23:18 < Mike1> i had not such error when i tested it here
23:19 < tfing> hmmm, stone is supposed to be in usr/sbin
23:19 < Mike1> where is it?
23:19 < Mike1> yet another package in /bin?
23:20 < tfing> no, i can't find it in the live system
23:20 < tfing> but the 2nd_stage.tar.gz tells me it should be in usr/sbin
23:20 < Mike1> mm...
23:21 < Mike1> if you tyope stone, does it do anything?
23:22 < tfing> command not found
23:22 < tfing> why are the usr/sbin/* files not extracted ?!
23:23 < Mike1> reboot and try again
23:23 < tfing> yep :/
23:23 < tfing> shutdown -h now does not work
23:23 < Mike1> reboot -f :)
23:23 < tfing> too late
23:23 < tcr> tfing: run 'sync' and reset
23:23 < mnemoc> reset button is better
23:23 < Mike1> :)
23:24 < tfing> tcr: i clicked the power button :)
23:24 < mnemoc> to shutdown you have to unplug it not clicking silly stuff
23:24 < Mike1> clicked ... hehe
23:24 < mnemoc> press :)
23:24 < tfing> yes :)
23:25 < Mike1> mnemoc: nah click :)
23:25 < Mike1> mnemoc: he is not fisically doing it :)
23:25 < tfing> mnemoc: i really mean clicked :)
23:25 < Freak> nah youre both wrong. you hit it.
23:25 < Mike1> you Freak it :)
23:25 < Freak> yeaaah thats the best way even
23:26 < Freak> i didnt read your conversation but might it be he runs vmware or some shoot like that
23:26 < tfing> yep
23:26 < tfing> bochs in fact
23:26 < Freak> see
23:26 < Freak> freaks the boss.
23:30 < tfing> same after reboot, no usr/sbin/* files
23:34 < mnemoc> did you tried mounting /usr?
23:34 < mnemoc> :)
23:34 < tfing> it got some stuff in usr/bin/*
23:34 < tfing> the /usr/sbin part of 2nd_stage.tar.gz does not seem to be extracted
23:34 < tfing> really weird
23:35 < tcr> Hmmm
23:35 < Freak> apt-get install debian........ *run
23:35 < mnemoc> reinstall time....
23:35 < rxr> tfing: which ISO ? an official one ?
23:36 < mnemoc> cu
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23:36 < tfing> rxr: mike's one
23:36 < tcr> Does anyone know how it's possible to examine a core in a way that you can find out the programm that caused the core file?
23:36 < tfing> tcr: gdb random_exec core might tell you it's the wrong program
23:37 < rxr> tcr: file core
23:38 < rxr> core: ELF 32-bit MSB core file, PowerPC or cisco 4500, version 1 (SYSV), SVR4-style, SVR4-style, from 'mc'
23:38 < tcr> tfing: would be too laborious ;)
23:38 < tcr> thx rxr
23:52 < rxr> Mike1: U5 finished
23:52 < Mike1> rxr: GREAT!
23:52 < Mike1> report report :)
23:52 < rxr> 59 errors out of 692
23:52 < Mike1> cool
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23:53 < rxr> svn revision 548
23:53 < Mike1> wanna paste on a query what failed
23:53 < tcr> Ah, the many core dumps I got seem to origin from a segmentation fault while the compilation of perl5
23:53 < rxr> Mike1: later
23:53 < tcr> Are there known problems about perl5 that could be related?
23:53 < Mike1> rxr: ok.
23:53 < rxr> tcr: nope
23:53 < netrunner> Mike1: patch applies and builds, sent.
23:53 < Mike1> netrunner: di du cc me?
23:54 < Mike1> di du ..*
23:54 < Mike1> arrg did you *..
23:54 < netrunner> Mike1: sure :) dada didu :)
23:54 < rxr> Mike1: cool - some of the errors are simply missing download files ...
23:54 < Mike1> dudida :)
23:54 < Mike1> rxr: hey man thats great!
23:55 < rxr> even greater is that I donate a minor amount of time to add the missing stuff for better sparc support over the next weeks ...
23:55 * netrunner today hand-downloaded the files he could not get from original sites or mirror sites.
23:55 < Mike1> rxr: :)
23:56 < Mike1> rxr: just get me an iso that i can load on my u5 and you will have me helping :)
23:56 < rxr> netrunner: what files have this been
23:56 < rxr> Mike1: bootable isos will take some weeks ...
23:56 < Mike1> rxr: ok
23:58 < rxr> daja77: still here ???
23:58 < Mike1> talking of daja77, when will rtai target be public for us daja77?
23:59 < netrunner> rxr: acpi, smartmontools, abiword, quota
23:59 < netrunner> rxr: original location was reported to slow by curl
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