--- Log opened Sat Jun 28 00:00:09 2003
--- Day changed Sat Jun 28 2003
00:00 < rxr> -notimeout or so ...
00:00 < Mike1> netrunner: ur patch needs a little fixing
00:00 < netrunner> Mike1: oh, sorry. What did I miss?
00:01 < Mike1> netrunner: see the first few lines it removes..
00:01 < Mike1> :)
00:02 < netrunner> Mike1: ugh :/ will it help if I just delete those lines manually and resend it?
00:02 < Mike1> yes
00:02 < Mike1> netrunner: quite a simple fix :)
00:05 < rxr> Committed revision 664.
00:05 < rxr> Cool - we are near 666 ...
00:06 < rxr> SMP: are you awake ?
00:06 < netrunner> Mike1: ok, out :)
00:06 < Mike1> good netrunner :)
00:07 < Mike1> netrunner: its looks fine to me now :)
00:08 * netrunner dances around happily *g*
00:09 < Mike1> :)
00:11 < tfing> yes !
00:11 < tfing> it was a memory pb
00:11 < tfing> 40meg was not enough
00:13 < Mike1> tfing: hehe :)
00:13 < tfing> trying with 64 now
00:13 * netrunner wants 666 for his patch
00:15 < rxr> me burning a CD in the fresh ROCK Linux chroot
00:15 < rxr> on the UltraSPARC
00:15 < rxr> on the 2nd self-installed SCSI adapter - ISO mounted via NFS
00:15 * rxr waiting for kernel freeze ...
00:16 < rxr> hm 35 MB burned
00:16 < rxr> load 2.34
00:16 < rxr> hm 80MB - still burning
00:16 < Mike1> rxr: share it with me?
00:17 < Mike1> the non bootable iso for ultra i mean :)
00:17 < rxr> cdrecord only utilizes 5% CPU time
00:17 < rxr> 125 MB
00:17 < netrunner> ok guys, I restarted my current build, cu tomorrow!
00:17 < rxr> Mike1: during burning CDs on the current rock-1.7 system on the SPARC
00:17 < rxr> the kernel already freezed 3 times or so ...
00:17 < rxr>  :-(
00:18 < rxr> 180MB
00:18 < rxr> 220MB
00:19 < Mike1> rxr: mm..
00:19 < Mike1> rxr: 2.4 or 2.5?
00:20 < rxr> 350MB
00:20 < rxr> 2.4.20
00:20 < rxr> the wohle system is very stable when used "normally"
00:21 < rxr> I posted the uptime on the list - was many months
00:21 < Mike1> yes.
00:21 < rxr> I only had to find out that CD bruning is very touchy on the box
00:21 < rxr> (I only started to do so recently)
00:21 < Mike1> that could explain :)
00:22 < rxr> but maybe this is caused by the kernel driver which might not be 100% endianess or 64bit save ...
00:22 < rxr> the 1st SCSI card (adaptec runs rock solid - since the all filesystems of the box are on a 10.000 rpm U160 IBM disk)
00:23 < rxr> 520MB
00:23 < Mike1> how big is the iso you are burning
00:23 < Mike1> ?
00:23 < rxr> the beta6 ones ....
00:23 < Mike1> ah ok.
00:23 < Mike1> :)
00:23 < rxr> 592MB
00:23 < rxr> err 593 ...
00:23 < Mike1> btw could you make ur isos with -size 650
00:24 < Mike1> mr rw cds are 650 mb ..
00:24 < rxr> Mike1: oh :-(
00:24 < Mike1> noi worries with the current ones
00:24 < Mike1> but for future refrence
00:24 < SMP> yeah, I'm back
00:24 < Mike1> :)
00:24 < Mike1> Welcome back SMP :)
00:24 < rxr> fixating
00:24 < rxr> hi SMP
00:25 < rxr> you mentioned groff patches should be send over - do you still work on this issue ? (dmitar already asked if I do s.th. with his patches ...)
00:25 < rxr> Mike1: fixated
00:26 < SMP> btw. any chance to get a reasonable distribution of packages over the CDs - and not like 00-dirtree on cd2?
00:26 < rxr> SMP: yes - that Iis also on my todo
00:26 < Mike1> rxr: great :)
00:26 < SMP> before or after release? ;)
00:26 < rxr> before -rc1 I think
00:26 < SMP> cool
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00:26 * Mike1 realizes stable release is weeks away anyways
00:27 < Mike1> huebi!
00:27 < rxr> SMP: I would do all immidiately - it is just that I do only have a limitted amout of time between Uni and this fscked win32 work I have to do to have a living ...
00:27 < SMP> rxr: I'm in no hurry for the release actually ;)
00:27 < rxr> Mike1: yes - I always said so - but the current already work - it is just we can be even better ...
00:28 < Mike1> rxr: yes..
00:28 < rxr> Mike1: burning 2nd ISO - 75MB
00:28 < Mike1> rxr: there are still some issues to fix anyways
00:28 * rxr prais this U5 will survive all 3 CDs ...
00:28 < Mike1> rxr: excellent :) keep burning
00:28 * Mike1 prays too
00:29 < rxr> Mike1: it is not on me - it just the U5 which should finish the job if it wants to survive ...
00:29 < Mike1> ich weiss :)
00:29 < rxr> SMP: the groff thing ?
00:29 < SMP> rxr: on it, sec.
00:29 < n00kie> Mike1: Too long :(
00:30 < Mike1> n00kie: ?
00:30 < rxr> SMP: ok - I'm away when the CDs are burned - to not hury either. I just wanted to know if there will be some bit in my inbox later ;-)
00:30 < rxr> Mike1: 233MB ...
00:30 < n00kie> * | Mike1 realizes stable release is weeks away anyway
00:31 < SMP> rxr: you can apply mc-no-sgr.diff and I'll merge the rest later
00:31 < Mike1> n00kie: ah well i knew it several days ago but never commented it, as i had faith stable would be out before july..
00:32 < Mike1> rxr: nice .. :)
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00:33 < n00kie> yes
00:33 < n00kie> Today I backed up all my mp3s
00:34 * SMP wonders where the groff version bump got lost
00:34 < rxr> Mike1: 520MB ...
00:35 < Mike1> cool looks it will survive cd2, lets pray for 3 :)
00:35 < Mike1> ping esden
00:35 < rxr> Mike1: I did the bigger size for the ISO only for beta5 there where only 30MB or so on the last CD ....
00:35 < rxr> the next ones are that big that we will have 3 normal CDs ...
00:35 < Mike1> i know.
00:36 < rxr> hm - 2nd CD fixated
00:36 < Mike1> COOL!
00:37 < SMP> rxr: you didn't apply Mike's groff version bump to 1.19?
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00:37 < rxr> SMP: nope it is in the to-be-checked queue
00:37 < SMP> maybe that will fix the segfault in ja_JP
00:37 < rxr> but if I shoudl I can immideately apply it ...
00:38 < SMP> I'll try it and report
00:39 < SMP> hmm, where's my segfault gone?!
00:39 < Mike1> .oO(wow, SMP read my patches mail...)
00:40 < Mike1> esden: pig!
00:40 < Mike1> i mean ping :)
00:40 < rxr> SMP: I'll apply it now - and you can send whatever needed to improve it ...
00:41 < SMP> I WANT THAT SEGFAULT!
00:41 < SMP> ;P
00:41 < Mike1> SMP: lol
00:41 * Mike1 hides from SMP
00:42 < rxr> cu all later - or tomorrow ...
00:42 < Mike1> rxr: okis
00:42 < Mike1> nacht rxr
00:42 < SMP> bye rxr
00:42 < rxr> SMP: the commit is till running (the iBook is currently compiling a kernel ...) - it will show up soon ...
00:42 < rxr> done
00:42 < rxr> cu
00:43 < SMP> ahhh
00:43 < tfing> it's hard to make it fit in 166Mo of space !
01:17 < n00kie> Mike1: ping :)
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01:31 < Mike1> n00kie: pong
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01:49 < tfing> Disk #1: Installing glibc23-2.3.2 ...
01:49 < tfing> While installing GEM file /mnt/source/2.0.0-beta6-x86-i386-minimal-expert/pkgs/g
01:49 < tfing> libc23-2.3.2.gem: Invalid argument
01:49 < Mike1> 0_o
01:49 < Mike1> my iso?
01:49 < tfing> yep
01:49 < tfing> o_O too
01:50 < Mike1> i tested that iso before letting anyone iso and it worked!
01:50 < tfing> might be a memory pb again
01:50 < Mike1> the only problem was the 3 missing packages i warned you
01:50 < tfing> it's not what i would call a very dependable test system
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01:51 < Mike1> an new system which fixed several bugs and has improvements is building..
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02:35 < rxr> re
02:35 < rxr> the -beta6 installs flawlessly - and runs so far ...
02:36 < Mike1> nice :)
02:37 < rxr> Mike1: have you already tested the -beta5 ?
02:37 < Mike1> i will at home.
02:37 < Mike1> should i skip them and go straight to beta6?
02:39 < rxr> Mike1: nope - I would like to have a tested -beta5, too
02:39 < Mike1> okis.
02:41 < SMP> whoah, scripts/Build-Tools rev. 654 was _so_ needed
02:51 < tfing> ok ... unselecting sed and findutils was a very BAD idea ...
02:52 < rxr> tfing: ack
03:10 < dreamind> Hi
03:10 < Mike1> bi dreamind
03:10 < Mike1> hi*
03:13 < SMP> groff sucks ...
03:13 < Mike1> SMP: ?
03:13 < Mike1> miss ur segfault?
03:14 < SMP> no, it's fine now
03:15 < SMP> just the groff distribution includes neither the mandocj troff macros nor the nippon output device
03:16 < Mike1> oh.
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03:29 < dreamind> Hi Mike1
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03:49 < Mike1> hi Ge0rG
03:50 < Ge0rG> re
03:58 * SMP goes to bed
04:00 < Mike1> n8 SMP
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04:47 < Mike1> n8 all
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05:06 < jacques> where is the script that builds the cross toolchain in 2.0 ? docs mention Build-CrossCC but it doesn't exist
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08:11 < netrunner> moin
09:19 < daja77> moin
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09:28 < gsuveg> re
09:45 < rxr> re
09:47 < daja77> hi rxr
09:48 < blindcoder> moin
09:48 < blindcoder> damn, I accidentally did a desktop build >_<
09:48 < blindcoder> fsck
09:48 < blindcoder> I only saw it after there was no 5-nethack.log >_<
09:49 < daja77> hehe
09:52 < rxr> hi all
09:53 < blindcoder> hi daja77
09:53 < blindcoder> hi rxr
09:54 < daja77> moin drockcoder ;-)
09:54 < daja77> rxr: you wanted to talk to me?
10:00 < rxr> yeah - hm. if I could remember what it was ....
10:02 < daja77> the patch perhaps
10:02 < rxr> hm
10:02 < daja77> lost the query?
10:03 < rxr> jups
10:03 < daja77> ic
10:03 < daja77> well I send a patch yesterday to fix ypbind, I just made a stupid mistake
10:04 < rxr> daja77: it is already applied. ...
10:04 < rxr> incl the correction ...
10:04 < daja77> ah thx ;-)
10:05 < daja77> well it seems that I can't bring my pc to linuxtag, just a notebook :-(
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10:34 < d3mian> hi
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11:28 < blindcoder> somehow... I think piro finally snapped
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12:30 < blindcoder> ach, und was soll ich vorschlagen?
12:30 < blindcoder> oops, wrong window
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12:33 * n00kie_ building 2.0.0rc1
12:34 < n00kie_> Hopefully without errors...
12:34 < rxr> I hope you know that is hot final -rc1 - but just a SVN snapshot ...
12:34 < rxr> -rc1 is around two weeks away ...
12:34 < n00kie_> yes
12:34 < rxr> ok
12:35 < n00kie_> Configuration called "Rock 2.0.0 rc1" or so
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12:37 < rxr> re huebi_
12:37 < n00kie_> wb huebi_
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12:38 < rxr> just copied a audio-cd on the SPARC without kernel freeze ...
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12:51 < daja77> hmm still haven't started a beta7 build ...
13:01 < rxr> we had a -beta7 ?
13:02 < tfing> rxr: you didn't know ?
13:02 < blindcoder> beta7??
13:04 < daja77> not?
13:04 < rxr> -beta6 , -rc1 ...
13:05 < daja77> well I didn't svn up for a few days ...
13:09 < netrunner> argl ... my bootdisk build is gone :/
13:09 * netrunner is to carless with cleaning up.
13:11 * daja77 points and laughs at netrunner
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13:17 < Freak> mmhh..
13:23 < daja77> ouch
13:24 < daja77> what's the proc node where I can lookup cpu temperature?
13:25 < rxr> daja77: i#m not sure it is that easy
13:25 < rxr> but sensors or so will do the job ...
13:27 < daja77> no sensors found, I nearly burnt myself on that machine *gna*
13:27 * netrunner used lmsensors successfully.
13:28 < daja77> hmm I loaded that module, doesn't help
13:28 < netrunner> need to build kernel module (look in /usr/src/lmsensors if installed, type make && make install), then try sensors-detect
13:29 < netrunner> daja77: you need a suitable config, otherwise it won't work.
13:29 < daja77> this is generic default kernel
13:29 < netrunner> daja77: maybe you find a cool config at the lmsensors hp, I found one for my board. also look at how to write initscript.
13:30 < netrunner> daja77: even for the default kernel (which leaves always symbol errors to me) I had to rebuild the modules.
13:33 * blindcoder is currently preparing same Sake. Anyone want some?
13:33 < blindcoder> hehe, Sake is really good stuff ^^
13:36 < daja77> re
13:36 < rxr> new mirror structure syncing ...
13:36 < rxr> #
13:36 < daja77> the machine switched off while building lmsensors ...
13:38 < rxr> gsmp http only ROCK Linux ISO traffic:
13:38 < rxr> 94.47 GB
13:38 < daja77> I'll let it off to cool down, have to check if a fan died or sth
13:38 < daja77> this sucks, rock build machine down again
13:39 < netrunner> daja77: I had this problem several times on my new build station. then I decided to exchange the 25EUR ebay-sniped plastic chassis against a chieftec server one with 4 coolermaster fans and a enermax psu, now no problems any more :)
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13:41 < blindcoder> hmm... my recent hardware problems with machine locking up (panic'ing to be exact) came from a b0rken PSU
13:42 < esden> good morning everyone
13:42 < daja77> hi esden
13:43 < rxr> hi esden
13:43 < rxr> moin moin
13:45 < daja77> I mean this just _had_ to happen, I almost dragged all my stuff to this box, had a beta6 on it, nice tft too, so that box crashing to keep me stuck with that crappy rh7.3 laptop was the logical consequence
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13:46 < daja77> hey Ge0rG: any news?
13:46 < Ge0rG> daja77: not before monday I fear
13:47 < netrunner> hi esden
13:48 * daja77 now cleanup the mess in the kitchen, cu
13:52 < rxr> cu daja77
13:55 < netrunner> wow ... cdripping is fast here :)
14:04 < n00kie_> == 14:02:41 =[1]=> Building base/linux24-src [2.4.21 2.0.0-rc1].
14:12 < rxr> cu later
14:14 < netrunner> Job 1-linux25                 builder (23455) since 14:08 2003-6-28
14:18 < ring-0> 127.0.0.1: http://68.41.243.94
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15:19 < netrunner> gngngngnaaa! win sux :<
15:27 < daja77> I wouldn't have known if haven't told me this ...
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16:11 < tfing> rxr: any idea why i would get that after package installation :
16:11 < tfing> cannot initialize curses
16:11 < tfing> Error opening terminal: linux.
16:11 < tfing> ?
16:12 < daja77> yepp ncurses package wasn't installed
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16:13 < tfing> i thought i had enabled it though
16:15 < daja77> iirc you are installing on a mahine with not much ram?
16:15 < tfing> yes, 64meg
16:15 < tfing> well, it's a virtual machine ;)
16:16 < daja77> ok had this problem too
16:16 < tfing> i can try with 96
16:16 < daja77> the mine process which installed ncurses will killed, cos there was not enough mem available
16:17 < daja77> gets killed even
16:18 < daja77> you can only try th chroot into that sys, extract the tar and install it by hand
16:18 < daja77> then doin grub install by hand
16:33 < rolla> re
16:36 < tfing> daja77: what is stone doing after extracting the gem files ?
16:47 < daja77> it starts up to finish config, but can't cos nc8urses isn't there, the bad news is that you even need ncurses for grub config :-(
16:47 < tfing> i don't need grub
16:48 < daja77> well then ...
16:52 < n00kie_> == 16:46:51 =[5]=> Building base/linux24 [2.4.21 2.0.0-rc1].
16:53 < daja77> d'oh that reminds me to disassemble my build box
16:55 < n00kie_> hehe
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17:04 < netrunner> ah, bootdisk ready. creating iso now.
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17:49 < n00kie_> linux25 isn't building correct in revision666
17:50 < mnemoc> i can't remember a revsion with a working linux25 since looong time ago ;)
17:50 < n00kie_> hehe ;)
17:50 < n00kie_> well
17:50 < n00kie_> why is linux25 in bootdisk target?
17:50 < Freak> must be the number.
17:50 < Freak> revision of the beast(huh?)
17:50 < mnemoc> n00kie_: bootdisk is create just using stages
17:51 < n00kie_> Freak: hehe
17:51 < n00kie_> yes mnemoc
17:51 < mnemoc> and linux25 shall be on stages 01
17:51 < n00kie_> but i think linux25 is useless in bootdisk target
17:51 < mnemoc> so... lixnu25 is on bootdisk
17:51 < Freak> me gets a drink.
17:52 < mnemoc> cliff promised an stage cleanup for 2.1
17:53 < mnemoc> imho just linux2[45]-src is needed on those stages
17:53 < mnemoc> (excluding bootdisk target)
17:53 < Freak> ahhh.. what a good thing on a day like this..
17:54 < mnemoc> :-\
17:54 < n00kie_> alright
17:54 < n00kie_> brb, dinner
17:54 < mnemoc> btw, my crappy box got on fire ;)
17:55 < mnemoc> i have no more p-mmx166/64 for rock
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17:57 < mnemoc> i got that amazing quantity of segfalts and random checksum just because of 3 weeks of melted cpu-cooler, after that the hole box got on fire :-\ ... hopely after a backup
18:04 < mnemoc> mmm... as nobody gives a fsck.. i part
18:04 < mnemoc> jk... bbl
18:10 < n00kie_> mnemoc | i have no more p-mmx166/64 for rock
18:10 < n00kie_> as my celeron 500
18:11 < n00kie_> ;-)
18:51 < n00kie_> == 18:51:54 =[5]=> Building base/diffutils [2.8.1 2.0.0-rc1].
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19:49 < Freak> ok
19:49 < Freak> guys
19:49 < Freak> watch this:
19:50 * Freak is going to fetch and install a ROCK ISO.
19:50 * tfing watches
19:50 < Freak> now whatcha say
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19:50 < Freak> tcr you missed the best.
19:50 < Freak> as usual.
19:50 < tfing> hehe
19:51 < tcr> moin all
19:51 < tcr> I'm listening..
19:52 < Freak> tcr: i will install rock.
19:52 < tcr> Where's the pointe?
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19:53 < Freak> dang you never see how GRAVE my decisions are.
19:53 < Freak> =)
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19:54 < tcr> Freak: So what's the incentive?
19:54 < Freak> tcr: dunno
19:54 < tcr> moin dreamind
19:54 < Freak> tcr: spare time
19:55 < tcr> Freak: _spare_ time?
19:55 < dreamind> Hi tcr
19:55 < tcr> Freak: You got spare time?
19:55 < Freak> uhuh.
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20:03 < Freak> couldnt someone start maintaining ROCK-debian-packages? :)
20:03 < Freak> apt-get install rock
20:03 < Freak> ;)
20:04 < tcr> Hmm, that's a good idea.
20:05 < tcr> I think I'll incorporate that into my mindmap file
20:06 < Freak> hehe
20:07 < tcr> what's in tv today?
20:07 < Freak> any idea of how to use my additional two mousebuttons?
20:07 < Freak> in a ..
20:07 < Freak> uhm
20:07 < Freak> way that makes sense
20:08 < Freak> hey i got this mouse for free and its my only optical mouse besides my logitech :)
20:09 < Freak> would be nice if I could actually use the commouse-display tho ;)
20:09 < tcr> Hmm
20:10 < tcr> No Idea
20:10 < Freak> actually i dont have a good idea either.
20:10 < Freak> *actually* i dont even have a bad idea for using em :)
20:10 < tcr> Does anyone happen to know a graphical diff viewing/creating tool for windows?
20:10 < Freak> it just doesnt make sense to have an additional middle and right mouse button :)
20:10 < tcr> without being forced to install cygwin
20:11 < tfing> hmm ... bochs was not a good idea to setup a root filesystem for uml
20:11 < Freak> =)
20:11 < Freak> uhm
20:12 < Freak> tcr: is there anything on tv?
20:12 < Freak> taxi taxi? naaaah...
20:12 < tcr> Haven't yet checked, just decided not to watch tv but to do some work
20:13 < Freak> "Tux: Das grüne Gletschertal belebt & begeistert!"?
20:13 < Freak> (werbumm)
20:13 < tcr> I'm still encountering strange bugs of the rock build system
20:14 * tcr is listening to Klassik Radio
20:14 < Freak> yuck
20:14 < Freak> =)
20:15 < Freak> me listens to classical trance and house music
20:16 < Freak> i could watch magnum on srtl.
20:16 < tcr> Hmm, classic isn't very straining
20:16 < tcr> good while doing some work, imo
20:17 < Freak> lets see what arte has tonight..
20:17 < Freak> uh..
20:17 < Freak> documentation
20:19 < Freak> ah but 22:30 they have something that sounds nice.
20:19 < Freak> "Zugvögel - Einmal nach Inari" [http://www.tvmovie.de/tv-programm/sendung.html?SendungID=2878242]
20:20 < tcr> yes?
20:21 * tcr hates windows. Brb, reboot
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23:26 < esden> hi all
23:26 < dreamind> Hi esden
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23:27 < blindcoder> moin
23:40 < esden> blindcoder: you are home too? o_O
23:40 < blindcoder> yes
23:41 < dreamind> moin blindcoder
23:41 < esden> no more billard? o_O
23:41 < blindcoder> I still don't have a brain-wave-interface :)
23:41 < blindcoder> no
23:41 < blindcoder> moin dreamind
23:41 < esden> blindcoder: so go and get one ;-)
23:42 < blindcoder> harr, wouild be nico
23:42 < blindcoder> sice
23:42 < blindcoder> nice
23:42 < blindcoder> *argh*
23:45 < daja77> re
23:48 < esden> lool
23:48 < esden> hi daja77 
23:48 < daja77> why are you laffin at me?
23:49 < esden> not at you daja77 ... I am loughing at blindcoder because he is unable to type ... and that is somehow funny ... not for him though ;-)
23:49 < daja77> hi esden :)
23:50 < daja77> I just spoke that sco part ...
23:50 < daja77> my main box (used for rock builds) crashed and doesn't come up again >_<
23:51 < esden> sco part ? huh? /me understanding nothing
23:58 < daja77> mom
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