--- Log opened Sun Jun 29 00:00:07 2003
--- Day changed Sun Jun 29 2003
00:00 < tcr> you mean stallman's mail?
00:02 < daja77> I mean that sco case on irc thing, can't find it >_<
00:04 < daja77> http://groups.google.de/groups?dq=&hl=de&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=3ef6c1dc%40fefe.de
00:08 * blindcoder rolling on teh floor, laughing his @$$ off
00:11 < daja77> :)
00:18 < daja77> <SCO> why r u laffin at me? that part I meant :)
00:23 < daja77> you all gone?
00:24 < tcr> nope
00:24 < daja77> good
00:25 * daja77 wants to ask esden for some whisky
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00:31 < esden> hehe ... ok daja77 
00:35 < daja77> ttp://geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyimages/235.gif
00:35 < daja77> http://geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyimages/235.gif
00:39 < blindcoder> good night, everyone
00:40 < esden> good night blindcoder 
00:40 < esden> sleep well
00:44 < daja77> n8 blindcoder
00:45 < esden> good night everyone 
00:45 < esden> I go to bed too ....
00:45 * daja77 too
00:45 < daja77> gn8 esden
00:48 < mnemoc> re
00:48 < daja77> hi && bye mnemoc
00:49 < mnemoc> hi & bye daja
00:49 < daja77> :)
01:05 < rxr> re
01:05 < mnemoc> hi rxr
01:06 < rxr> hi mnemoc
01:06 < mnemoc> my crappy box got on fire :D
01:06 < rxr> mnemoc: on fire ?
01:07 < mnemoc> yep
01:07 < rxr> it was running and the started to burn ?
01:07 < mnemoc> i was backing it up
01:08 < mnemoc> and the ide bus got fire
01:08 < mnemoc> the smart guy incharge of the place told me that 3 weeks ago he detected that the cpu-cooler was melted....
01:08 < mnemoc> and mail me... without subject
01:08 < mnemoc> i never see the mail
01:09 < mnemoc> on friday i went to backup for reinstall it
01:09 < mnemoc> because it was segfaulting pretty offen and goting random checksums of the same file...
01:10 < mnemoc> and when i start moving the file to a beatyful 1gb hd... got too hot and fire :|
01:12 < mnemoc> the positive side was i got a 'new' machine... pII/350/256
01:14 < rxr> mnemoc: nice - got for free ?
01:14 < mnemoc> yep...
01:14 < mnemoc> the crappy box was property of my employer
01:15 < mnemoc> to let me VPN
01:15 < mnemoc> now, the oldest free machine was that pII/350 without ram.... and they only had 256 dimms available :D
01:21 < rxr> nice
01:22 < mnemoc> i installed mike's minimal-beta6 but that s.th doesn't have `ld` and sshd does a free(NULL) i couldn't track
01:22 < rxr> ui :-(
01:24 < mnemoc> but i have a 'good' machine... i'm happy :D
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01:38 < mnemoc> http://siliconvalley.internet.com/news/article.php/2228471
01:48 < mnemoc> rxr: just for curiosity, is combreloc enabled on current versions of binutils?
01:56 < SMP> folks.
01:57 < mnemoc> stefan.
01:59 < rxr> mnemoc: it is included
02:00 < mnemoc> thanks
02:01 < dreamind> who calls my name?
02:07 < mnemoc> i think i did, but it was answering SMP's greeting :-\
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02:22 < rxr> ui
02:22 < rxr> 17.41 GB traffic on gsmp.tfh-berlin.de yesterday ...
02:26 < rxr> cu
02:27 < mnemoc> gn8 rxr
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05:34 < n00kie> Hi mnemoc
06:44 < rolla> re
06:44 < n00kie> re && good night rolla
06:45 -!- n00kie is now known as [n00kie]
06:45 < rolla> rxr when you read this I loaded my new 2.0 iso on the athlon and everything is fine so I guess it was teh rock not the system :)
06:45 < rolla> nacht [n00kie]
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11:04 < daja77> re
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11:10 * A-Tui is away: GNU's not UniX
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12:51 < netrunne1> moin
12:53 < daja77> moin netrunne(r)
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13:02 < netrunner> daja77: thx :)
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14:22 < n00kie> Is the initrd bug already fixed in revision 669?
14:22 < n00kie> From the bootdisk target
14:26 < netrunner> n00kie: from the svn rev 669 log: - Fixed obscure "missing linuxrc in bootdisk" problem
14:28 < n00kie> Ah, alright, thanks. :-)
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15:37 * netrunner installing desktop p3 build :)
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18:32 < Freak> how is ROCK going to handle with german law considering kids and games?
18:34 < mnemoc> i guess making them 'O' by default is enough
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19:22 < tcr> moin all
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20:13 < daja77> re
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21:09 < uninvit3d> Hello Hello Hello ...
21:11 < daja77> ahem hi
21:12 < rxr> re
21:13 < rxr> did I missed s.th. interesting ?
21:13 < daja77> hi rxr
21:13 < rxr> hi daja77
21:13 < daja77> nope, dead chan today
21:13 < rxr> ah - I c ...
21:14 < mnemoc> today?
21:14 < rxr> hi mnemoc
21:14 < mnemoc> hi rxr
21:14 < mnemoc> hi daja
21:14 < daja77> mnemoc: :P
21:14 < daja77> hi mnemoc
21:14 < mnemoc> this has been a dead week
21:15 < daja77> hehe I was away
21:15 < daja77> :)
21:15 < rxr> I really cool - with a latest feature in the 2.4.21-benh2 kernel I now the power-management LED on the iBook can be used to blink on HD access ;-)
21:15 < rxr> quite neat
21:16 < daja77> rxr: powerbook on Linuxtag?
21:16 < rxr> daja77: ?
21:17 * daja77 lazy
21:17 < daja77> I mean do you bring the powerbook ti linuxtag
21:18 < daja77> to even
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21:21 < rxr> it is an normal ordinary "cheap" iBook ... - but yes I'll bing it with me ...
21:22 < daja77> hehe okis
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21:22 < daja77> I'll bring a cheap vobis laptop with me ;-)
21:23 < rxr> maybe my next desktop workstation is a G5 ...
21:23 < daja77> apple sucks
21:24 < daja77> at least I hate them again since today
21:24 < rxr> why ?
21:25 < daja77> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/vza-28.06.03-002/  <-- that's why
21:26 * rxr reading
21:27 < SMP> if just PowerBooks weren't the most proprietary (but cool) hardware around
21:27 < daja77> you know what sucks most on apple?
21:29 < rxr> hm - this is really not that nice ...
21:29 < daja77> the apple owner who gave you queer looks, xos you want to run linux on a mac, cos macos is such a nice os, it is UNIX and bla bla (people who run linux on pcs btw)
21:29 < daja77> this sucks most
21:29 < daja77> yeah but it is typical for apple
21:29 < rxr> this "ObjectDock" mentioned in the article steals the icons from KDE
21:30 < daja77> hehe
21:30 < rxr> maybe I should ask the KDE people if they like this ...
21:30 < daja77> sue them, sue them!
21:31 < rxr> this IP patenting fluff stuff in the US really sucks
21:31 * daja77 hates ip stuff
21:31 < daja77> ack
21:32 < daja77> but we'll have that soon here
21:32 < rxr> yes - and this really really sucks
21:32 < daja77> yepp
21:33 < daja77> rxr: wanna hear good news?
21:33 < rxr> daja77: yes
21:33 < daja77> my build box is back online
21:34 < daja77> that athlon you know
21:34 < daja77> I think the power suplly is borken
21:35 < daja77> hey I could start a build just for fun, and see if it crashes again
21:36 < rxr> ;-) hehe build just for fun ;-)
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21:38 < daja77> sure, I mean there is no duty or ...
21:39 < rxr> you could do an official generic -beta6 build ...
21:39 < daja77> I have isos, I could upload them from work tomorrow
21:39 < daja77> beta6
21:41 < rxr> generic? tested ?
21:41 < daja77> yepp installed on two machines
21:42 < rxr> nice
21:42 < daja77> only that my usr part was too small :(
21:43 < daja77> on this machine
21:43 < rxr> hm
21:43 < rxr> would you upload them to my gsmp server, or the iso.rocklinux.de?
21:43 < daja77> that's why stone is borken and I can't supply the rockplug output properly
21:43 < daja77> :(
21:43 < rxr> I woould like some "official" tested ISO in the new official area ...
21:43 < daja77> rxr: any location I can access tomorrow
21:44 < rxr> do you copy from a linux box? could you use rsync? or is http/ftp needed ?
21:44 < daja77> the isos work, and I was wrong I installed it on three machines ;-)
21:44 < daja77> rsync would be ok
21:45 < rxr> cool - would it be possible that you take official tested generic builds over?
21:45 < daja77> it is running on that laptop I had my speech in MD with
21:45 < rxr> how was the MD speech ?
21:45 < daja77> great, they all liked it
21:46 < rxr> so you gave -beta6 CDs away in MD ?
21:46 < daja77> some will try and ask me in their chan
21:46 < daja77> I installed it on Georg's laptop
21:47 < daja77> nope didn't gave away cds, but said they can be downloaded
21:48 < rxr> daja77: what about the "could you take over official generic buidls" Q?
21:48 < daja77> rxr: I could do that, if that doesn't require m,e to have the isos ready, 5min after your annoucement ;-)
21:49 < rxr> daja77: nope - just within a week or so would be ok
21:49 < daja77> within a week should be possible, if I am not on vacation or so
21:50 < daja77> you are around tomorow afternoon=
21:50 < daja77> ?
21:50 < rxr> yes
21:51 < daja77> cool then we should sync tomorrow
21:51 < rxr> I need to write an electric practice report (quite much wasted time ...)
21:51 * daja77 works on his studienarbeit and on rtrock
21:51 < rxr> daja77: will you be here some more hours? So I could already setup some auth stuff ..
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21:52 < daja77> hmm I'd like to watch tv in half an hour but after that and during they break I'll be here
21:52 < rxr> ah ok
21:52 < rxr> since we have no TV anymore - we have quite more time for usefull things ...
21:53 * daja77 looking forward meeting rxr on linuxtag
21:53 < rxr> but I need this damned "properitary" external VGA output of the iBook to work to watch DVDs on my 21" CRT - otherwise Verena will kill me soon ... :-(
21:53 < uninvit3d> rxr> give me a definition on "usefull things" ;-)
21:53 < daja77> rxr: hehe my tv is off most of the time, this is an exception ;-)
21:53 < daja77> uninvit3d: hacking
21:54 < rxr> uninvit3d: hehe - working more on ROCK Linux is one - or just having a real live in the real world ...
21:54 < daja77> real life, *lol*
21:56 < uninvit3d> real life is a all-time favorite for number1 SUCK
21:56 < uninvit3d> I see
21:57 < daja77> well we'll see if I meet the girl I know since last week maybe it is getting better
21:58 < daja77> meet again of course
22:04 < daja77> hmm have I confused you?
22:04 < uninvit3d> nay
22:04 < daja77> :)
22:05 < uninvit3d> not really.
22:06 < uninvit3d> I get a weekly dose of real life from my son who is about 13 months old. ;-) (sent the girl to hell *g*)
22:06 * daja77 trying harder next time :^)
22:06 < daja77> uninvit3d: cool
22:07 < uninvit3d> correction: she sent me to hell, but i never made it there and stopped by smelling daisys...
22:09 < daja77> uninvit3d: well interesting that your son lives with you and not with her ...
22:10 < uninvit3d> he lives with her...but i m among the privileged to see him as often as i feel to.
22:11 < daja77> ic
22:28 < rolla> crap
22:28 < rolla> anyone here?
22:31 < tcr> ack
22:31 < rolla> I still am having issues with my sthlon :(
22:32 < rolla> it seems to lock up for no reason
22:32 < rolla> and memtest86 just locks up before anything can be run
22:36 < tcr> Uh
22:37 < tcr> Hmm, isn't there a memtest86 FAQ for that ?
22:38 < uninvit3d> good nite every1
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22:41 < rxr> rolla: yes - this is a known (read in todo) ROCK problem. It just always worked - and for soem noths now does not work anymore - maybe gcc-3.2 related?
22:42 < tcr> Ah I thought he's running a binary from the original site
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22:48 < RoyZombie> hi
22:48 < RoyZombie> i am interested in using rock linux, i am tired of bloated distros, how is the feeling of rock ?
22:50 < tcr> #define feeling
22:53 < RoyZombie> mmm
22:53 < RoyZombie> does it feel like you control everything ?
22:53 < RoyZombie> or is it like mandrake for example ?
22:54 < tcr> It's a distribution build kit, and as such concipated - by definition - for maximal control
22:54 < RoyZombie> oh
22:54 < RoyZombie> that's great
22:55 < RoyZombie> i don't have a cd burner, could i install it using floppies ?
22:57 < tcr> Yes, booting with floppies and installing from HD. Don't know if there's a conventional way, however
22:58 < RoyZombie> i c
22:58 < SMP> if you have some Linux system already running, you could just install it from the loop-mounted ISO images
22:58 < RoyZombie> sure, i am using mdk atm
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22:59 < SMP> shouldn't be a problem if you are able to 'control everything'
22:59 < tcr> SMP: That's no recommended -- dunno why, guess people encountered problems doing so
22:59 < Ge0rG> good morning
22:59 < SMP> tcr: why? it's so easy
23:00 < tcr> SMP: Well, I can remember having read that (more or less)
23:00 < tcr> nothing based upon profound proofs ;)
23:00 < SMP> untar the mini root, mount source and dest filesystems into it, chroot into it, "mine -i -R /mnt/target *.gem", done
23:02 < tcr> It's clear what you want, I myself thought about if it's theoretically possible. And I ran across that shallow advice and so didn't bother pondering any further
23:08 < rxr> tcr: I do not image where you found this - but the way SMP described just works fine ...
23:09 < tcr> Yeah, it just looks right
23:10 < SMP>  ... unless mine segfaults because of an 8bit filename
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23:14 < daja77> every  time I want to build new rock i have to download another 2.5.x kernel :-(
23:15 < rxr> is your link that slow? - if yes just disable it ...
23:15 < tcr> I'd take that into account if a build just works without any interfences
23:15 < daja77> rxr: isdn :-(
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23:17 < tcr> Oh, it's really that late already. It's time to leave now. Gn8 all
23:17 < daja77> reading backlog reminds me of testing boot floppies again
23:18 < daja77> n8 tcr
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23:48 < daja77> hi kasc
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23:51 < n00kie> moin
23:52 < daja77> hola n00kie
23:53 < n00kie> Hola daja77 :)
23:53 < n00kie> Como estas?
23:54 < rxr> whit my own SANE/Avision backend has endianness issues :-(
23:55 < daja77> n00kie: fine, watching tv
23:55 < rxr> s/whit/shit/ obviously ...
23:56 * daja77 off again
23:56 < n00kie> daja77: pr0n?
23:56 < n00kie> Bye, daja77
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