--- Log opened Tue Jul 01 00:00:43 2003
--- Day changed Tue Jul 01 2003
00:01 < n00kie> good night guys
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00:08 < rxr> good night
00:08 < daja77> n8 rxr
00:08 < Mike1> n8 rxr
00:08 < daja77> btw I gave the download url to the mdlug people
00:09 < daja77> Mike1: I guess you'll get a tester for router target :)
00:09 < Mike1> why do you think so?
00:10 < daja77> cos one of them was interested in it
00:11 < daja77> but used gentoo for his other system >_<
00:12 < daja77> Mike1: do you build realtime target?
00:12 < rxr> Mike1: I synced the recent U5 .gems to the schillernet.dyndns.org box
00:12 < rxr> they are in /rock-linux/sparc/pkgs
00:12 < daja77> cool
00:13 * daja77 hopes that he can port rock to parisc in his holidays
00:14 < rxr> hm - damn they are mixed with some old files ...
00:14 < rxr> I'll clean this up ladter
00:14 < rxr> see you
00:14 < jsaw> gn8
00:20 < daja77> jsaw: I sended realtime patches to Mike1 and rolla today :)
00:20 < daja77> sent even
00:20 * daja77 sleepy
00:21 < daja77> anyway, gn8 you all
00:23 < jsaw> daja77: cu, sleep well
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04:04 < mnemoc> IRIX yates 6.2 03131015 IP22 <-- what a nice place to rock :-\
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05:40 < rxr> Mike1: ack
05:41 < rxr> err mnemoc ack
05:41 < mnemoc> :)
05:41 * rxr still doing this damned electronic protocol ... :-(
05:41 < mnemoc> i don't have enought quota to install python :(
05:41 < mnemoc> work or university?
05:44 < rxr> uni ...
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06:59 < mnemoc> moin n00kie
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07:15 < blindcoder> moin
07:16 < mnemoc> moin blindcoder
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07:29 < rxr> hi blindcoder
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07:51 < holyolli> moin
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08:05 < rxr> hi ho
08:05 < rxr> lyolli ...
08:05 < mnemoc> rxr: did you finish?
08:05 < rxr> mnemoc: nearly ...
08:19 < mnemoc> powerpoint crashed :(
08:19 < mnemoc> damn windoze
08:19 < mnemoc> reboot
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09:14 < netrunne1> moin
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09:25 < daja77> moin
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09:38 < rxr> moin daja77
09:38 < daja77> hi rxr
09:39 < mnemoc> rxr: you are late ;)
09:40 < rxr> me now at university - cu
09:40 < daja77> cu rxr
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10:16 < netrunner> moin daja77
10:26 < daja77> hi netrunner
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10:41 < |roberto|> hi
10:42 < |roberto|> i am currently using mandrake and i wounder how to install rocklinux ... should i remove all the files on the mdk partition and move the tar file there ? this would break glibc, and tar needs glibc, doesn't it ?
10:45 < netrunner> cool dfn sells dsl flat with static ip to students for 55 EUR
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12:30 < n00kie> netrunner: dfn ?
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12:39 < netrunner> n00kie: deutsches forschungs netzwerk (www.dfn.de)
12:40 < blindcoder> netrunner: do they also offer for non-students?
12:40 < blindcoder> I just ask, cause kamp offers a dsl-flat with static ip for 29,90
12:40 < blindcoder> 29,50
12:41 < blindcoder> GAH
12:41 < blindcoder> 39,40 EUR, that's the correct one
12:45 < netrunner> blindcoder: i guess not.
12:45 < netrunner> blindcoder: does kamp use tdsl?
12:48 < blindcoder> yes, you'll be VPN'ed into their network
12:49 < blindcoder> I'm currently thinking about a second "Telefonanschluss" so that I can connect a second machine with hte static IP and rezvverse-lookup for animeftp.net there
12:49 < blindcoder> oh, and i should take spelling lessons
13:13 < netrunner> blindcoder: I don't mind ;)
13:15 < netrunner> .o( and suddenly a esden appears behind you )
13:17 < esden> hi all
13:17 * -> esden pokes netrunner 
13:17 * netrunner kicks back
13:18 < blindcoder> hi esden
13:23 < esden> hi blindcoder !!!
13:23 * -> esden takes a baseball bat and hits netrunner 
13:24 * netrunner throws his proteinpowder over esden
13:25 < esden> urgh ... *cough*
13:25 * -> esden gains big power ... and throws netrunner against the wall (poor wall)
13:25 < blindcoder> children... please.... no fighting in #rocklinux
13:26 < blindcoder> do that in #gametome :D
13:26 * -> esden takes blindcoder and throws him against the wall too ;-)
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13:26 * blindcoder breaks through the wall and the floor behind that
13:26 < esden> ohh .. I made a hole in the wall ... sorry
13:26 < netrunner> the wall begins to shine and thanks esden for the present.
13:26 < esden> hehe ... the wall sucked netrunner in ;-)
13:26 < esden> nice
13:27 * blindcoder comes flying up through the floor underneath esden and cuts him in half with a two-handed sword
13:27 * netrunner aka 'the wall' begins to throw stones at esden
13:27 * -> esden desintegrates just before the attacks could reach him
13:28 < blindcoder> CHEATER!
13:28 < esden> and flyes out of the building
13:28 < esden> blindcoder: so twins were cheeters?
13:28 < esden> good to know ...
13:28 < blindcoder> twins?
13:34 < blindcoder> esden: ping...
13:41 * netrunner pings esden 
13:41 < netrunner> with a pen :)
13:42 * -> esden pongs with a bottle
13:42 < netrunner> hm ... other students watching us curiously
13:42 < esden> hehe ;-)
13:42 < esden> blindcoder: I mean the twins from matrix ...
13:43 < blindcoder> sorry, it's a long time since I'we seen the first part of matrix... which twinS?
13:46 < esden> hmm .. you have seen the preview of the second part ...
13:46 < esden> they are in there
13:46 < blindcoder> oh, those
13:46 < blindcoder> 'course they were!
13:46 < blindcoder> That's what's usually know as "wall hack"
13:47 < blindcoder> and usually players get banned for that!
13:47 < blindcoder> Well, Morpheus "banned" them in the end :-)
13:47 < netrunner> blindcoder: which leads to a fire-wall hack what lets them in again :)
13:48 < blindcoder> well, you're always in a bad situation fighting a defensive war
13:54 < rxr> re
13:54 < esden> roe rxr 
13:54 < blindcoder> wb rxr
14:02 < esden> ok ... /me -> home
14:02 < blindcoder> baba
14:02 < esden> cu blindcoder
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14:33 < rolla> re
15:21 < rolla> is 256 Kb/s a good upstream speed?
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15:26 < wawo> anybody home for some tech support?
15:29 < rolla> what kind of problem do you have?
15:29 < daja77> re
15:30 < wawo> Installed new beta 6 iso desktop, for I guess I did not set the network to startup. Anyway when I do a network start command every thing works ok but the DNS is not set, what need to be run to get the DNS from DHCP?
15:32 < daja77> /etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart, perhaps?
15:32 < netrunner> wawo: you're sure your dhcpd gives out dns adresses?
15:34 < wawo> yes I looked at the lease file and the DNS info is in there. When I do ifconfig all looks fine as far as it sets the ipaddress etc. just the DNS is not getting set. I have done "network stop" and then "network start" and still the same, no errors given.
15:35 < netrunner> wawo your /etc/resolv.conf writable by root? (try to move it to another dir/rename it and reget dhcp info)
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15:41 < wawo> ok, I'll have to try that when I get home, guess I should not have done a "network stop" while i was ssh'd in to my home box from work  Duh..... geesh
15:43 < netrunner> wawo: oh 8)
15:43 < netrunner> .o( this is like telling people to press ALT-X really fast in early mailbox times :)
15:46 < wawo> ya,  what a pain, oh well have to play around with it when I get home, thanks for the help anyhow.
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15:55 * rolla is tired
16:00 * daja77 gives some jolt to rolla 
16:02 < rolla> thanks
16:14 < rxr> re
16:16 < rolla> re rene
16:16 < Mike1> moin all
16:17 < daja77> hey Mike1
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16:20 < daja77> hi gruni
16:20 < gruni> hi
16:23 < daja77> Mike1: you here?
16:26 < Mike1> dayes
16:26 < daja77> so you could listen to gruni and his complaints about router target ;-)
16:27 * Mike1 hides
16:27 < rxr> should we update mozilla to 1.4 ?
16:27 < Mike1> :)
16:27 < Mike1> rxr yes
16:27 < daja77> rxr: is that stable?
16:28 < rxr> daja77: yes
16:28 < rxr> released to day
16:28 < daja77> then update :)
16:33 < rxr> hm - the galeon project seems to be some kind of stalled ...
16:33 < daja77> yepp there is a new project instead
16:34 < rxr> which one ? (of the many we GNOME people do get nothgin correct and try s.th. new when yet another idea did not worked out)?#
16:35 < daja77> rxr: nope the main dev of galeon was pissed that galeon got that much bloated in gnome2 , so he restarted it
16:36 < cchamilt> re Hi
16:36 < Mike1> welcome back master cchamilt
16:36 < cchamilt> Anybody with experience using evms and devfs?
16:37 < daja77> rxr: http://epiphany.mozdev.org/
16:40 < rxr> ah - I'm also on the site via google ...
16:40 < daja77> hehe
16:42 < rxr> hm - so galeon is dead - and I do not need to continue to wait for the gnome2 version?
16:42 < rxr> and I add this yet-another-unfished gnome2 app to our gnome2 rep ?
16:43 < daja77> afaik it is still continued, but maybe we should switch to epiphany
16:45 * daja77 off to lecture
17:01 < rxr> be off for kitchen work ...
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17:32 < daja77> re
17:47 < daja77> *yawn*
17:48 < Mike1> you lazy boy, go get some coffee and get back to rtai :P
17:48 < Mike1> welcome back daja77 :)
17:48 < daja77> hahaha have you tested it?
17:48 < daja77> thx Mike1
17:49 < Mike1> daja77: nah, yesterday i was doing some other stuff around which consumed all my time, i will try to do so tonight
17:49 < daja77> okis
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17:58 < Mike1> gruni: feel free to ask any question you may have about rock router..
18:00 < esden> hi ho .. everyone
18:00 < daja77> hi esden
18:00 < Mike1> hi esdy
18:01 < daja77> esdy?
18:01 * daja77 never expected that from Mike1 
18:01 < esden> only miky may call me so ;-)
18:01 < rxr> *lol*-ing ...
18:02 < Mike1> rxry?
18:02 < Mike1> *ggg*
18:02 < esden> Mike1: no the correct spelling is "reny"
18:02 < esden> ;-)
18:03 < Mike1> reny mm.. ok
18:03 < daja77> Mickey
18:03 * daja77 runs
18:04 < esden> daja77: be carefull not to stumble (/me lays some bricks in the way of daja77)
18:05 < daja77> esden: !!
18:05 < Mike1> hehe
18:05 < Mike1> daja77: ready to die?
18:05 * Mike1 stares at daja77 with an evil grin :D
18:05 * daja77 laughs at Mike1 
18:06 * Mike1 grabs his water pistol
18:06 < esden> daja77: I can use also something more effective ... like my fist or so ... but I think when you stumble it is more fun ;-)
18:06 < daja77> *lol* your fist ...
18:06 < esden> o_O
18:07 * -> esden is asking himself what he has done wrong ...
18:07 < daja77> hehe I have confused him
18:08 * -> esden takes his pumpgun : "die you confusion emitter!!!"
18:09 * daja77 nodes strangeness in esden 
18:09 < daja77> notes
18:09 < Freak> hehe
18:10 * blindcoder hands esden a plush penguin
18:10 < blindcoder> that'll shut him up :)
18:10 < daja77> hand me a daemon babe!
18:12 < daja77> rxr: /me uploading rtrock isos right now :)
18:14 < esden> blindcoder: thank you 
18:14 * -> esden kuddles the penguin
18:16 * daja77 takes a photo
18:16 < rxr> daja77: ah - could you post some summery what the rt target does - and plese the source, too ?
18:16 < Freak> url, url! ;)
18:17 < daja77> Freak: you need it?
18:17 * -> esden grins at daja77 
18:17 < daja77> esden: why?
18:17 < Freak> daja77: sure.. for publishing.
18:18 < daja77> esden: btw it finally works you can add rt to every target :)
18:18 < esden> because of the photo
18:18 < daja77> ah ic
18:18 < esden> daja77: CONGRATS!!!
18:18 < Freak> heh
18:19 < daja77> rxr: hmm the src I used for that release is crap ...
18:19 < Freak> how to clean a notebook-display propperly?
18:20 < daja77> staubtuch
18:20 < esden> Freak: with salt acid
18:20 < Freak> esden: you really mean they say "salt acid"?
18:20 < esden> Freak: dunno ... I hope so
18:21 < daja77> I wouldn't trust esden in this matter ...
18:21 < blindcoder> daja77: I wouldn't trust esden in _any_ matter...
18:21 < Freak> hehe
18:21 < esden> blindcoder: die
18:21 < daja77> hehe
18:21 * blindcoder dies
18:21 < daja77> well he was helpful with rt target ,..
18:21 < esden> nice blindcoder ... good blindcoder
18:22 * -> esden resurecting blindcoder 
18:22 < daja77> yeah traffic in the chan when esden is there
18:22 * blindcoder still dead
18:22 < daja77> blindcoder: oh come on
18:23 < blindcoder> daja77: okay, okay... *rises from the dead*
18:23 < daja77> :)
18:24 < esden> *rofl*
18:24 < esden> blindcoder: you must not be so "traege" with death and life
18:24 < daja77> lazy zombie ...
18:24 < esden> you have to work on your state changing algorithms ... *headshake*
18:24 < Mike1> lazy zombie 0_o ?!?
18:25 < esden> daja77: ack
18:25 < Mike1> daja77: you have been hanging out with owl again haven't you ?
18:25 < esden> traege = dull
18:25 < daja77> *lol*
18:25 < daja77> Mike1: why
18:25 < esden> Mike1: for sure!
18:25 < Mike1> daja77: scrollback
18:26 < daja77> how far
18:26 < Mike1> just my last comments
18:26 < Mike1> arrgg
18:26 < daja77> you mean cos of the zombie thing?
18:26 < Mike1> <daja77> lazy zombie ...
18:26 < Mike1> <Mike1> lazy zombie 0_o ?!?
18:26 < daja77> ic
18:26 < Mike1> <Mike1> daja77: you have been hanging out with owl again haven't you ?
18:27 < daja77> hehe
18:27 < daja77> well we're in the same chan but not talking much
18:27 < daja77> hmm maybe I should quit ...
18:27 < Mike1> ok
18:28 < daja77> I mean it is stupid naming a chan #anarchy, it attracts too many idiots
18:28 < esden> daja77: *no comment*
18:28 < daja77> like people asking where conio.h is on linux
18:28 * blindcoder isn't "traege" :/
18:28 * daja77 kicks esden 
18:28 < blindcoder> con...what?
18:29 < daja77> a header file used for dos and windos progs
18:29 < esden> blindcoder: you are not dull? 
18:29 < esden> but your response time is dull ;-)
18:30 < blindcoder> just a large round-trip ^^:P
18:30 < daja77> .oO esden had not enough alcohol ...
18:31 < daja77> d'oh
18:32 * daja77 stupid
18:32 < daja77> >_<
18:33 < esden> daja77: whaaat?
18:33 < esden> I am not Bender!!!
18:33 < daja77> I just made some stupid mistakes
18:33 < daja77> esden: not?
18:34 < esden> no I am esden and not Bender
18:34 * blindcoder 's got a headache >_<
18:34 < daja77> you are from the same series *gg*
18:34 < daja77> blindcoder: too many lusers today?
18:35 < blindcoder> daja77: no... rode my bike twice in heavy rain today...
18:35 < daja77> uh
18:35 < blindcoder> maybe some warm Sake will help...
18:35 < daja77> hehe give some to esden
18:35 * daja77 hides
18:36 < blindcoder> nah, he'd get a good Gutmann. I know he'd prefer that :()
18:36 < blindcoder> :)
18:36 < daja77> :)
18:36 < daja77> it really sucks that esden can't come to linuxtag
18:37 < daja77> I'd like to watch him drinking :)
18:38 < blindcoder> it's not a pretty sight, believe me...
18:39 < blindcoder> brb
18:43 < daja77> hehe
18:47 < esden> blindcoder: I want a Gutmann too!!!
18:48 < blindcoder> have none
18:48 < daja77> wtf is gutmann
18:49 < blindcoder> a certain brew of beer
18:49 < daja77> ic
18:50 < netrunner> hm ... my recent desktop build only offers gnome as wm ... can I somehow query all packages if they are wms to add them?
18:51 < daja77> huh?
18:51 < daja77> offers where?
18:52 < esden> netrunner: gnome is default ... 
18:53 < daja77> you can change this in stone ...
18:53 < esden> there is also wmaker, kde ...
18:53 < daja77> blackbox
18:54 < esden> but fluxbox is missing >_<
18:54 < daja77> esden: add it!
18:54 < esden> netrunner: echo "wmaker" > .xinitrc 
18:54 < esden> that will help ;-)
18:54 * -> esden saw wmaker on netrunner's laptop
18:54 < Mike1> wmaker.inst is all you need to run..
18:55 < esden> daja77: when I am awake I will add it ...
18:55 < esden> Mike1: the line above is enough too
18:55 < daja77> I thought that you are still sleeping ...
18:55 < Mike1> esden: too long :)
18:56 < esden> daja77: I am ...
18:56 < daja77> *AARGL*
18:56 < esden> o_O
18:57 < daja77> just found out that all the downloads failed here at work and _still_ can't start new rt build >_<
19:01 < netrunner> esden: I know some of the installed wms by name, yes. But I'd like them to be included in /etc/opt/gnome2/dm/*.desktop automatically.
19:01 < netrunner> and I think there was a hook responsible for that, no?
19:09 < netrunner> I want to know which wms I have on my system ...
19:10 * daja77 screams a bit
19:10 < netrunner> daja77: whaazaaap?
19:11 < daja77> damn network setup at work + borken network card which is slower than isdn >_<
19:11 < daja77> that was a 100mbit card ...
19:17 < netrunner> daja77: maybe you didn't read carefully enough and it's a 100kbit card?
19:18 < daja77> :P
19:18 < daja77> this is fscking realtek card, 'nuff said
19:20 < daja77> hmm maybe I shouldn't use tu-darmstadt mirror
19:36 < rolla> yawn
19:37 < daja77> hey rolla
19:37 < daja77> rxr: you got isos :)
19:37 < daja77> will add description later
19:38 < daja77> can't concentrate here
19:48 < rolla> wie geht's daja77
19:49 * daja77 slightly pissed at work, but ok
19:49 < daja77> *gna* mirror detection sucks
19:49 < Freak> yea.. being pissed at work isnt good.
19:50 < Freak> for such matters I always had trousers and a tshirt to change in my car.
19:50 < rolla> ha ha ha
19:51 < daja77> ok selected mirror manually :(
19:52 * daja77 off to party now
19:52 < daja77> I need it :)
19:52 < Freak> rolla: no kidding, I worked in a hospital
19:52 < rolla> I need a party too
19:52 < rolla> You do Freak
19:52 < rolla> what do you do there?
19:52 < daja77> rolla: wanna join?
19:52 < Freak> i did
19:53 < Freak> _did_
19:53 < Freak> that is *past*
19:53 < daja77> zivi :P
19:54 < rolla> Freak: :P
19:54 < rolla> relax
19:54 < Freak> ACK!
19:54 < rolla> when is your holliday?
19:55 < Freak> those were the worst days of ma life *dang dang dangdang dang-dang, dang dang dang-dand dangdang*
19:55 < Freak> rolla: ya talkin to me, stranger?
19:55 < rolla> yes
19:56 < Freak> holiday was up yesterday. I'm now officially post-zdl
19:56 < rolla> post-zdl?
19:56 < Freak> oui
19:57 < rolla> was ist das?
19:57 < Freak> post = after, zdl = ZuvielDienstLeistender
19:58 < rolla> I know what post is but I am not so sure of the tranlation on ZuvielDienstLeistender
20:00 < cchamilt> hi
20:00 < Freak> hehe
20:01 < cchamilt> how do you fill a conditional in bash when checking if there is more than zero of something
20:01 < cchamilt> if [ `ls /dev/discs/*/part*` ] ...
20:03 < netrunner> cchamilt: maybe something like `ls -l bla | wc -l`  (should be true sins gt 0
20:04 < cchamilt> hmm, maybe it is for bootdisk, so trying not to use much more than bash itself
20:04 < cchamilt> I will go see if wc is in it
20:05 < cchamilt> Yeah, it is - Thanks!
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20:10 < tcr> moin all
20:11 < rxr> cchamilt: why not simply perform the normal path-name expansion and evalutae if it has content ?
20:11 < netrunner> moin tcr
20:11 < rxr> not external fluff ...
20:11 < rxr> hi tcr
20:11 < netrunner> rxr: sorry, I am a bit fluffy ;)
20:12 < cchamilt> rxr: ? [ -f /dev/discs/disc*/part* ]
20:12 < tcr> hi cchamilt. I'm happy meeting you; want to talk to you about something, if you don't mind. Later..
20:12 < cchamilt> OK
20:13 < rxr> cchamilt: nope this will fail if there is more then one partition
20:14 < cchamilt> yep
20:14 < cchamilt> So how do you mean?
20:14 < netrunner> rxr: something else, in my recent drock build all the wm's did not get registered in gdm. you know why?
20:19 < cchamilt> rxr: Still don't see it...
20:19 < tcr> (If I got you right:) [ "$(echo /dev/discs/disc*/part*)" != "/dev/discs/disc*/part*" ]
20:20 < tcr> If you put the second comparator in '', then it's even easier to read
20:21 < cchamilt> tcr: hmm not sure about that
20:22 < cchamilt> What I want to do is check if partitions exist and if so ask if it is OK to remove them.
20:23 < tcr> [ "$(echo /dev/discs/disc*/part*)" != '/dev/discs/disc*/part*' ]; echo $?
20:23 < tcr> [ "$(echo /dev/BLAHBLAH/DOES_NOT_EXIST)" != '/dev/BLAHBLAH/DOES_NOT_EXIST' ]; echo $?
20:24 < cchamilt> it doesnt appear to work
20:25 < cchamilt> it echos 0 for all things, and I do have partitions on this machine :)
20:25 < tcr> the second one does too?
20:26 < cchamilt> It seems condition on the first expresion $echo... and the other side of the != state could be anything?
20:27 < tcr> how do you mean
20:27 < cchamilt> I mean the echo... is the only part that matters - i change '/dev/discs/disc*/part*'  to '/dev/discs/disc*/pard*'
20:27 < cchamilt> And it still worked
20:28 < tcr> No both comparators matter
20:28 < cchamilt> if I change the echo, then it returns 1
20:28 < cchamilt> hmm
20:29 < tcr> Wait a moment, I might got an influence how it could be even easened
20:30 < tcr> no, false assumption
20:32 < tcr> So the trick about the above test command is that the echo part does filename expansion, if possible; but, if this expansion isn't possible, echo will just give the actual string (incl. the metachars), and to catch up that case, we have to test whether the output of echo is equal to the string (that's meant to be expanded)
20:33 < tcr> Grok it? And so it's logically necessary to adopt both sides
20:34 < cchamilt> but my bash doesnt seem to
20:34 < cchamilt> the blah example should fail right?
20:35 < tcr> yes
20:35 < rxr> re
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20:36 < cchamilt> OK, I see it yes thanks.
20:37 < tcr> Wonderful. So I can go making something to food, and to come back then
20:37 < rxr> netrunner:
20:37 < rxr> you have /usr/share/rock-registry/wm/* ?
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20:48 < n00kie> Uah
20:48 < n00kie> I hate "wandern"
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20:49 < netrunne1> rxr: yep. so is the /etc/opt/gnome2/dm/*.desktop not adapted by that hook?
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20:52 < rxr> there is nt .desktop stuff in that dear - but the gdm and kdm configs are updated by /etc/cron.d/90-gdm /etc/cron.d/90-kdm ...
20:52 < rxr> s/nt/not/
20:52 < rxr> s/dear/dir/ - damn I need sleeop ...
20:52 < n00kie> hehe Rene :)
20:53 < cchamilt> heh anyone want to write my script -
20:53 < cchamilt> I am just thinking dumb things.
20:53 < netrunner> rxr: ah. is there a reason that default for cron is not to run in runlevel 5?
20:57 < rxr> yes - historically ROCK only uses 2 and 3 ...
20:57 < rxr> but the cron stuff is run after the installation - so it should be there ...
21:00 < netrunner> rxr: I think the cron script is wrong. the Session stuff is needed to be in /etc/opt/gnome2/dm/Session and not in /etc/opt/gnome2/gdm/Session
21:01 < netrunner> rxr: (the latter does not even exist here)
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21:20 < freed> hi all
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21:34 < rolla> re
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21:58 < Mike1> re all.
21:58 < n00kie> Hi Mike1 :)
21:58 < Mike1> Hola n00kie! Como estas amigo mio?
21:58 < n00kie> Muy bien, gracias :), y usted?
21:59 < Mike1> bien tambien, gracias
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22:05 < Mike1> ringo78: !!!
22:05 < Mike1> ringo78: Welcome!
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22:09 < ringo78> hi Mike1 ! How are you today ?
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22:09 < Mike1> i was very good untill some minutes ago
22:09 < Mike1> brb
22:10 < ringo78> c u l
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23:49 < rxr> netrunner: this seems to have changed in gdm in a recent version bump - I'll correct this later ...
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